Poll: Novak Djokovic Or Andy Murray, Who’ll Win The 2016 French Open Men’s Final?
by Staff | June 3rd, 2016, 1:08 pm
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For the 34th time Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray will meet on the pro circuit. The longtime friends and rivals advanced to the finals today with comfortable wins today. The top seeded Djokovic dominated Dominic Thiem while second seed Murray ousted defending champion Stan Wawrinka in four sets.

Djokovic has won 23 of 33 meetings including 12 of the last 14. The Serb has also won seven of nine in Slams and four of six in Slam finals.

On clay, Djokovic has the 4-1 edge but Murray won most recently last month in Rome.

So with a first French Open title on the line, who’ll win?


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94 Comments for Poll: Novak Djokovic Or Andy Murray, Who’ll Win The 2016 French Open Men’s Final?

RZ Says:

Forget the match, the biggest winner is this pic of Nole singing karaoke. Hilarious!


anki Says:

Andy in five or four, he was simply superb. The best match of his this year.


RZ Says:

Racket Bracket update: Jalep has taken the lead! Mat4 and Aileen are tied for second. If my calculations are correct, if Nole wins the final, Jalep wins the bracket; but if Andy wins the final, Aileen wins the bracket. However, the biggest news in the bracket standings is that I am in 4th place and pretty much guaranteed to not finish in last place for once.


Dantheman Says:

Win or lose, this is the first time I would say that Andy Murray is legitimately the #2 player in the world. Beating an in-form defending champion Wawrinka proves it. Most of the times that Murray has made major finals or the two slams he has won, he has never beaten 2 of the other multiple slam winners to do it (Fed, Djoker, Nadal, Wawrinka). This time, beating Wawrinka, I think he’s really ready to challenge Novak on Sunday and may be ready to beat 2 big players in a slam to do it. Time will tell, but he has definitely improved as a player this year. I am not a fan of Murray’s but he looks the best I have ever seen him in his career. It’s time someone raised to Novak’s level to compete with him, and I think he has a real chance on Sunday.


Humble Rafa Says:

This forum will be supporting Mr. Lady Forehand for obvious reasons. But even people with small brains know that the Egg Lover is highly favored and his win will be historic.

#humblepie


George Says:

If Djokovic wins on Sunday, I don’t know what to do? How to survive gloating of Djokovic’s fans? How to live knowing that Novak Djokovic is the GOAT. Andy Murray, Guy Forget, Pascal Maria, anyone, please stop this guy.


jalep Says:

WTA bracket update:
Nikola leads and Lakie is in 2nd. If Garbine Muguruza wins (odds are close, closer than the ATP final), Nikola wins. If Serena wins, Lakie does.

Better luck at Wimbledon for the rest of us!


RZ Says:

@Jalep – I made the mistake of choosing Halep over Muguruza for the women. Cost me dearly in the bracket!


Baa Says:

Uh, George, Novak fans aren’t Fed and Nadal swine,
like those who block non-abusive Fed floons from posting on other forums and cheat & scream to interrupt Novak’s concentration.

99% of novak fans support a great empathetic man aka. comedy genius.
He is not ruined by tennis results, unlike the frail overrated fedal.


jalep Says:

RZ – Me too, and our brackets were not much different. Also, I picked like I wasn’t paying attention! I thought Kerber was at full power. Also stuck my head in the sand about Azarenka. Then, I admit to not knowing, or forgetting, that Aga had troubles with a wrist. Also overestimated Petra. All very typical errors, since they are all favorites.

Anyways our ATP brackets are doing better with Andy and Nole 👍 cheers!


BBB Says:

I think it may be helpful to Djokovic that he lost to Andy in Rome. He does better when he has reason to worry.


chrisford1 Says:

For Andy Murray fans like Margot, K-Kath and other stunted, inbred Brit or quasi-Brit types – Scots, Jamaicans, etc., I present you empirical proof of reasons to cheer even if he doesn’t win.
Andy is Big 4, locked in. No Big 3 plus the runty beaten ginger stepchild…..
It cannot be questioned. It is incontrovertible. it is above any reasonable challenge!
Andy Murray has made it to Top 10 Open Era , or soon will, in all tennis measures of achievement besides “Slam Count”. Slam Finals, or Slam Semis, QFs. Add Masters wins or semis and above. near single handed (like Novak with Serbia and Viktor Troicki in great support) driving Britain from the Dabis Cup. Olympic gold medal in his host country

All hail Andy! As a Novak fan I hope he wins many trophies post Wimbledon 2016 save the Cincinnati Masters, Olympicgold.


Giles Says:

George. Don’t worry joker will stop himself. Nerves will win the day.


Danica Says:

George, c’mon man, we are quite subdued on this blog. I can’t vouch for other internet realms but here at least, if Nole indeed wins, we’ll just be happy. ;)


Pauly Says:

GILES

Djokovic got the oppenant he was seeking finally in the final he could never beat Nadal in the final in Paris nor Wawrinka but now he’s got the perfect choker to finally win his first trophy
Murray will choke no doubt he’s just got that mental weakness Djokovic looks for in an oppenant

However hoping for a big fight from Murray who is playing very well on clay
Murray is due for slam it’s been longtime between drinks
Good luck Murray hope you can keep it together & win it


Pauly Says:

George

For heavens sake
Djokovic isn’t the GOAT
Rod Laver is & always will be !

However if Djokovic wins he will finally get off ZERO French opens in 12 attempts
Thiem was an absolute apprentice
Man vs boy it was never going to be nice
I predicted Djokovic would swat Thiem like a fly
Murray defeating Wawrinka was abit surprising but stan played nothing like last year
Must be those pyjama shorts


jane Says:

ha ha ha pauly. you do know novak has beaten your favourite in several finals, as well as federer – are they the sort of chokers he “looks for in an opponent”? ;) girl (or guy), you need a beer or something. cheers!


Michael Says:

I do not think the Andy Vs Wawarinka match gave us an indication that Andy was in top form considering that Wawarinka was looking completely out of sorts and was struggling on court. So, whether Andy played his best Tennis is a moot question ? I have seen Andy play more brilliant swash buckling Tennis to thwart the bid of his opponents in the past and so this performance didn’t impress me for it was not outstanding.

That said, the finals are always different, played in a different atmosphere with greater pressure on the respective players. The player who handles these things better will win on Sunday. Both Novak and Andy are yet to win Rolland Garros Titles and that would be added pressure on both of them. While Novak is questing for a calendar Grand Slam to become only the 8th Tennis player in both Amateur and professional era to bag that honours, Andy has added pressure on him as his conversion rates of finals to victories is sub-standard. So, the player with better mental strength will hold the edge on Sunday.

In my opinion, Novak is mentally stronger than Andy though both are beasts in five setters and will never give up. So, it will be physically exacting battle and even there Novak holds the edge of not being in Courts for too long like Andy who had to face two five setter matches in the early stages.

The serving prowess and the return holds the key. The player who makes more number of first serves will definitely hold the edge and as you can expect in Novak Vs Andy battle, there will be more number of breaks in every set with the players exchanging in the battle of wits. All said and done, I would say that Novak holds the edge 55-45 in his favour and might complete the coveted career grand slam that has eluded him so far. If he is able to achieve that, then in all probability, he will most likely overhaul Roger’s accumulation of grand slam titles sooner than later running with that confidence.


AndyMira Says:

If novak win,i will be happy for VP,WB,Danica,Dave,Daniel,CF1,Jane,Jalep..and if Andy win,i will be happy for Margot,RZ and CDP..


AndyMira Says:

I think this ‘Andy’ is way more different than ‘Andy’ that we saw at Aussie Open last january..win over novak in Rome already made a difference in the world for Andy..and i think novak knows it..and i’m not sure about the choke thing this time around..one thing for sure..it’s going to be a massive battle out there..


jane Says:

that’s sweet andymira.
b.t.w. i saw the cutest tweet about rafa’s 30th
https://twitter.com/cheeers1/status/738799111428792321


jane Says:

^ my reply andymira is to your 1:00 am post.


Margot Says:

A.M. @1.am….Cheers m’dear. Not many Andy fans on here, but twas ever thus.
TBH when I saw how Stan was playing in the first set my heart sank. But, as Courier said, Andy used his great “tennis brain” and adjusted his own game, especially his forehand apparently, and well, here we are.
His forehand was fabulous BTW


AndyMira Says:

@Jane..aww..thank you for the link up there..that was sweet of you..i really appreciated it..can’t wait to tell okie about it..


AndyMira Says:

Hey Margot..you remembered last january when andy lost to novak at AO?You were so downhearted..and things continue to gloom after IW and Miami right?And i said both times that I STILL BELIEVE IN ANDY..i said it’s just a matter of time for him to shine again and add to his slam collection..tomorrow is maybe his time M..if not then keep continue believe in him..i know i do..his game almost perfect now..his confidence sky high after Rome..he now knew he has the ability to defeat nole..and that is a very dangerous weapon of all!


Margot Says:

Andy Mira, you are a darling😍👍🙋


AndyMira Says:

@Margot..he he thank you!Btw..i found this article..don’t know whether you’re already read it or not..http://www.eurosport.co.uk/tennis/french-open/2016/inferior-to-novak-djokovic-yes.-but-andy-murray-can-still-topple-the-world-no.-1_sto5634233/story.shtml?


Margot Says:

No I haven’t thank you. Don’t like the first few words of the title much tho…..;)


AndyMira Says:

@Margot..ha ha..i know but you have to read it till finish..then you’ll like it even more..hey JMac also said Andy has a chance tomorrow..so..we hope together okay?


Pauly Says:

If Murray wins
GILES will he so happy
Murray is due for a slam win vs Djokovic
He’s lost too many lately


calmdownplease Says:

‘I do not think the Andy Vs Wawarinka match gave us an indication that Andy was in top form considering that Wawarinka was looking completely out of sorts and was struggling on court…’

bwahahahaha!
Yeah, right dude!

Anyhoo, I think it goes to 4 again Sunday and it might just not be going to Novak for once
Go on Andy do it for Ali!


Ronn Says:

You think Andy wins in 4 sets? Really? Only if Djoko plays his C- game or worse, and do you think that will happen?


calmdownplease Says:

Well, he won’t win in 5 if one looks at the recent history
As for him playing his C game
well clearly you are a moron so you can go do one
m’kay?


calmdownplease Says:

Well, he won’t win in 5 if one looks at the recent history
As for him playing his C game
well clearly you are a m*ron so you can go do one
m’kay?


mat4 Says:

There is a gulf in the press after this semi. Non-western media, which don’t belong to one of the press moguls, objectively title their articles about Novak’s victory against Thiem. On the other side, 4/5 of the anglophones media put an accent on Murray, even when reporting from the Djokovic-Thiem match.

The hype around Murray is incredible in those media, and the contrast is sharp, just as it was the case down under, at the beginning of the year. I read some East-European and Italian news, the storyline is completely different: when reporting about Novak, they really do report about Novak.

And then, Google search… Just look at a selection of articles from India:

The Indian Express
French Open 2016: World number one Novak Djokovic one short of greatness

All the other news in English are from GB and the US. India has numerous new outles in English, but it seems they don’t pay enough Google to be at the top of the search results…


calmdownplease Says:

@Mat4

Yes!
Your point being?


mat4 Says:

@CDP

What point? Why do you think there has to be a point?

And… what’s your point about a point?


Pauly Says:

Murray has been playing like a man on a mission
He’s got the best clay form out of everyone this season
So unlucky against Nadal in Monte Carlo
Murray must start well can’t give Djokovic anything early Coz his confidence will increase
Mentally Murray must hang tough then only then can he have best chance to win
Neither man has won this tournament
Djokovic has lost many finals
I’m hoping Murray can win Coz he’s due to win Slam


calmdownplease Says:

Er..okay.
You relay information on the national and international biases of these 2, so I assumed that you would have a point.
My point would be that Andy might make a more popular number 1 (should he ever get there).
Maybe!
Maybe not, however.
Sometimes being number one often makes you less ‘popular’ not more, esp when you win everything all the time and for a long time.
It’s good for Novak and his fans but everyone else gets a bit bored.
But Novak is still well ahead in public recognition according to a recent poll I have seen anyway.


mat4 Says:

“Djokovic has lost many finals”

4 to Rafa, 2 to Andy, 1 to Fed. But he won: 3 against Rafa, 4 against Andy, 2 against Fed. He’s won 60% of his finals.

Andy has won 25% of his finals.

“I’m hoping Murray can win Coz he’s due to win Slam”. I’m hoping Djoko can win because he’s due to win the FO.

Although nobody is “due to win” anything. The better man on the occasion will win.

“Murray has been playing like a man on a mission
He’s got the best clay form out of everyone this season”

It’s quite debatable.


calmdownplease Says:

It will be interesting to see who the French support Sunday
I’m guessing it will be Andy despite the boos earlier for reasons stated (among others)


calmdownplease Says:

It’s not really debatable
he had the most clay court points leading up to the FO
I personally think he should have taken MC and would have had he not choked (yet again) against Rafa


Wog Boy Says:

mat4,

Pauly is just killing the time on TX and pulling everybody’s leg..


mat4 Says:

The point seems to be, now that you mention it, that not everybody is bored by Novak’s domination. Part of the Western media just give a false, biased picture of the reality.

I am certain that Murray will be a more popular no 1 in GB, but the moment they let in spectators for 20 euros on the Lenglen, the public seems to be generally for Novak, cheering for him against Thiem. Is there also a class divide here?

Novak is also a symbol that the oppressed have a chance against the rich (although he’s wealthy, playing a sport of rich). The culture he brings on the court is generally more open, more comprehensive. He’s playing tennis for a football audience. He’s just what Nike tried to make of Rafa, the rich boy from Spain, the true warrior who made it against the odds, and that’s what the public recognize in him, a public that can’t pay 100 euros to go to Roland Garros, and 15 euros for a cup of coffee.


mat4 Says:

@WB:

Hi, WB. Nice you’re here.


calmdownplease Says:

Well, that’s your point (at last), but i think most neutrals will be bored of anybody’s domination esp if it means one sided tours
I’m not even going to debate that one
And please drop the Novak as class warrior man of the people shtick
Novak would never do it so I don’t know why on earth you would!
Your Logic is pretty skewered in that post
Thiem is not Muzz but a very long shot indeed.


calmdownplease Says:

*by a


Wog Boy Says:

Hi mat4,

Just reading the posts and looking forward for final, won’t be able to watch it, going away early Sunday morning.


Wog Boy Says:

Meanwhile…go Muguruza, or vamos Muguruza, Basque born in Venezuela…how do you say “go” in Basque?


mat4 Says:

Brad Gilbert was asked recently if a plurality of champions would be better than one dominant player. He answered that when we have one dominant player, we ask for tougher competition, and when we have plurality, we long for a dominant champion.

So, no need to debate about it. It’s a question of taste.

I won’t drop the second topic. You probably would like me to do so, just like many articles don’t mention at all when the public cheers for Novak. Unfortunately, the narrative about the fair Andy playing against the Dracula from the Balkans is way far from the truth, although some would like us to think so.

The myth of the “Balkans”, as we now it, has been forged by the British FO, who was an ally of Turkey for years, and needed a way to explain this stance to his public. It’s secular propaganda. I don’t need to explain you why it’s so important today too.


mat4 Says:

About Novak doing and not doing:

He gave a few millions of his own money for charity in the last few years. It’s well documented, from his gifts to the Church (I read recently that he was Muslim… unbelievable), from ambulances he bought, help to the flooded, charity projects he funded in Serbia, to the last we heard of, in Australia.

Novak definitely is not the villain, but a very positive influence in the tennis world.


Okiegal Says:

Regarding who the French will cheer for come Sunday? That’s a no brainer…….whoever is behind. They want to see 5 sets…….Tennis crowds are fickle like that. I’m quite sure the majority of fans could care less who wins as long as they get 5 sets of grueling tennis…..they want their money’s worth……those tickets are expensive I hear, so you really can’t blame them……


calmdownplease Says:

I’m sorry, but usually only the fans of the said potentially dominant player long for a “dominant champion”

Brad Gilbert, he’s hardly Cicero, is he?

“the narrative about the fair Andy playing against the Dracula from the Balkans”

lol, now that IS funny!
When I asked about your point I actually suspected it would really be something like this
Don’t be so whiny and bitter Mat4 it really isn’t a big deal.
He’s winning that’s what matters the most
Novak is very popular but Fedal are (unfortunately) still around, so he (and Andy) will have to wait their turn.
As for the class thing, well alright, but let me tell you I used to house sit as a teenager for a family friend in Nice not too far from where your ‘glorious working class hero` presently resides in Monaco.
Visited many times since then.
I know the place very well.
I’m guessing that, even if Novak had ever bought into the narrative you have set out and projected onto him, he forgot about it all a long, LONG time ago.


calmdownplease Says:

“The myth of the “Balkans”, as we now it, has been forged by the British FO, who was an ally of Turkey for years, and needed a way to explain this stance to his public. It’s secular propaganda. I don’t need to explain you why it’s so important today too.”

You most certainly would have to.
Imagine bringing in conspiracy theories about the British Govt in relation to a tennis player!!!!!!
British Foreign policy, Erdogan, the EU (including France) etc are not really relevant subject matter given that we are on a tennis blog!


mat4 Says:

@CDP

I weight my words very carefully, especially since we don’t argue in French, but in English. I’ll answer in no special order:

- Your sentence doesn’t invalidate what Gilbert has said. Irony doesn’t do the job here. I could add that Cicero didn’t play tennis.

- “Dracula from the Balkans”, “Dracula” are already in use for Novak. I didn’t invent it. There’s no need to be ironic here neither.

- The term “class”, in the context it’s used by certain fans, doesn’t mean much. Most of the time, it’s linked with a certain image, a certain conception how players should behave. Novak has shown his heart, doing good discreetly, whenever he could. It is a question of essence vs image, although Novak, lately, works a lot on his image too.

- Being wealthy is not a sin. Novak didn’t steal his money. But he gave a lot of it.

- The point of my first post was written all over my first post, and there was nothing to presume, to guess.

- Part of the propaganda against Novak is not in relation with Novak himself, but with what he represents. I didn’t mention any “conspiracy theory”, and if you were better educated, you would know it. What I wrote is common knowledge. Sport has always been extremely important for the promotion of a country. It is, indeed, a question of geopolitics.


AndyMira Says:

@Okie 7:49am..agree with you..5 setter or 4 setter..no matter..as long as they promise a very quality tennis..look at how they warmed to the rookie wawa last year?Not only wawa but his pyjama short also take a sudden popularity because of it!


skeezer Says:

“Part of the propaganda against Novak is not in relation with Novak himself, but with what he represents.”
Propaganda, never liked that word. So much propaganda in it.
He should only have to represent himself on the Tennis court. But alas, reading the comments here from time to time they want him to represent….and be… something else.

mat4,
“Sport has always been extremely important for the promotion of a country.”
In the States this is not so much. Professional athletes are just that, this is their job and they get paid for it, representing themselves ultimately. I understand that may be different in other countries, where such things as DC, and the World Cup directly represent countries. The Olympics is the only thing(mostly) here that is popular that everyone will watch with patriotism, and, technically they don’t get paid ( debatable ). Recently these things have changed in the Olympics, as now our NBA players are allowed to play, but in the past the team was made up of College players….
Apologies for jumping into the conversation late, was just reading your last post and wanted to comment on that. Correct as you may…


calmdownplease Says:

‘and if you were better educated, you would know it’

hehehe
Oh I’m very well educated Mat4, I won’t go into it but you can rest assured that that is the case.
But I’m not omniscient, that’s for sure (I have my subject areas like everyone else), nor psychic either, for that matter.
The real reason you won’t go into it is because you are talking pretentious, whacky, French bulls**t, frankly


calmdownplease Says:

‘Sport has always been extremely important for the promotion of a country. It is, indeed, a question of geopolitics..’

Serbia frankly isn’t very important geopolitically.
I say that with all due respect but it is a small territory.
I don’t know what you are referring to, it could be anything the Ottoman empire (?) but it really isn’t relevant, that much is clear


Margot Says:

@Okgiel 7.49
Right on gal, all tennis crowds want very close 5 setters.
Lol I thought, during Andy’s match, that Switzerland must have invaded France in the night!


George Says:

@calmdownplease: If you are educated, geopolitics is certainly not your area of expertise.


calmdownplease Says:

Thank you George for your entirely irrelevant and unsolicited comment.
Maybe not, but I could say ‘try me’ on this, as I know a fair bit. But really, I don’t care what you think about it.


Wog Boy Says:

I don’t think we should discuss that here, but sport has always been used as propaganda weapon and to strengthen and develop patriotic feelings and enthusiasm, since Ancient Greece, Roman empire and recently cold war, where was almost matter of life and death when USA was playing USSR, look just all movies that came out of the Holywood, look at boycotting each other’s Olympic games, trying to take Winter Olympics or football world cup from Russia..of course it is used for political pressure. Do we remember the man called Hitler and Berlin Olympics?

mat4, they know it very well, no point talking about that.


James Says:

I hope its a good long 5 setter rather than the normal Murray choker. Would be ironic if Murray wins in his first French final. I think its the last best chance for both.


George Says:

@calmdownplease: You are welcome; just try not to have strong opinion on subjects you know little about. I know that it is not easy to keep yourself at bay, but, as a great philosopher Novak Djokovic once said, “I aim for perfection in order to achieve excellence”.


AndyMira Says:

The women side has an upset element..what about men?If Andy can upsets novak tomorrow..this is gonna be the most unforgettable FO EVER!


Giles Says:

George. Lol. That quote is not a joker original. I think it’s a sports quote.


calmdownplease Says:

I’m well open to that one AM dear.
George i dont take orders from nobodies about anything I’m afraid
You dont even know what you are talking about hence the vague dull stupidity of your withering attempt at a putdown
What is then
You’re Serbian?
Is that it?
Spit it out!
Honestly go scr*w a farm animal


Van Persie Says:

Somehow I hope todays upset will be followed by a win from Djoker, like AO 2016 and UO 2015 :)


AndyMira Says:

I bet you will CDP..good luck to you for tomorrow okay?


AndyMira Says:

VP..don’t worry..if it meant for novak to win,then he’ll win tomorrow..if not try again next year..as long as he is be able to run and chase the ball..then there’s the hope..all the best luck for tomorrow VP..


Van Persie Says:

AM,

I am not worried at all. It is just a ebate here..
Stop trying to please everybody, at least me. You are free to root, for whom you like :)


Van Persie Says:

correction: debate


AndyMira Says:

VP..as you’re already know..i root for Rafa..and i’m not try to please you..i’m just said what i feel inside my head..if novak win..then i’ll be happy for you..and if Andy win..i’ll be happy for his loyal fans..that’s it..


Van Persie Says:

Ok, AM. I apologize for the misunderstanding


George Says:

@calmdownplease: I just thanked you for acknowledging your lack of expertise in geopolitics and gave you a friendly advice. Your problem now is that you can’t edit/remove your “farm animal” post that reveal your “good” education and thought process.


AndyMira Says:

That’s alright VP..no problem..


Baa Says:

Fed fans don’t like it when another man dominates their idols and
has a real sense of humor.
Good for fedal if they hop on court at age 37-40, but
Novak will play slam winning tennis at age 35-37, therefore
no one will care if Fed sycophants don’t watch Novak.
It was laughable when Feddick & Hewitt were praised like
there was legendary tennis in 2002-2006.
When Novak was playing in 2005-7, the legends & tennis fans wanted to
see the Serb boy that quietly battled through health issues.
It’s not novak’s prob that fed, the espn clowns & Roddick
felt sick when Novak ripped them up emotionally.

Novak throws the racket and admits he almost hit the linesman.
He doesn’t boast about how many awards he has or how great he looks, unlike Fed.
He quietly makes everyone happy on & off court.


skeezer Says:

“Hitler and Berlin Olympics?”
We are not in that century. Furthermore, you don’t understand my post. Don’t conment unless you understand.


Van Persie Says:

Mat4, George,

With all my respect. I am also an Eastern European, but I guess on insist to much on that topic about “discrimination” on a tennis forum…and there is to much whining…
Tbh, I also do not know now , where all the asian countries are located, as an example…this does not make me uneducated…

CDP,

One small correction, even if I know it is not relevant for you: Yugoslavia was important from geopolitical point of view, that’s why it has been destroid…Serbia is to small now, agree.


Van Persie Says:

As CDP said, the important thing is, that Novak is winning. Hope he will win also tomorrow ;) hehe


Okiegal Says:

Farm animals……..is that necessary??? Good grief, I’ve heard it all and no moderation to boot……disgusting!!


Okiegal Says:

I hope Andy wins tomorrow!! I love to hear Andy yell “C’mon”…….so…..c’mon Andy, Okiegal on the Murray bandwagon…..scoot over Margot…..I’m jumping aboard!


skeezer Says:

Great mens doubles final going on now. Best match of the tournament so far.


AndyMira Says:

He he..okie!You…!!


George Says:

@Van Persie:
1) I am unsure what “Eastern European” means? I am always puzzled when Djokovic is defined as an Eastern European and I ask myself “Why those people do not look into the map”?

2) About discrimination, this issue would never been discussed on a tennis forum if it was not related to tennis career of some players.

3) It is not shame not to know something if you acknowledge that you are a lay person for the subject. You are fine if you say “I don’t know much about Balkans, but I believe that this area is not that geopolitically important”.

4) Regarding importance of Serbia, this is a long discussion, but size is not the most important issue there. How many wars have been fought over Belgium? There are important points of balance that are crucial to hold.


django Says:

Based on the way Andy played against revved up Stanimal, he is def the favorite on Sunday.


Van Persie Says:

George,

I meant the countries from the Eastern block, as it was called…it did not matter Southern East and so on…
I did not want yo say, Serbia does not count anymore….wanted more to say , it has lost from its power. Would talk more about that in a privat discussion, not here.Of course, every country matters. and is geopolitically important…

Yep, regarding discrimination…it is real, it is there, also in sports….so, it cannot be a Taboo.


Van Persie Says:

P.S. for George,

Eastern block has some advantages at the moment: no terrorists there ;)


Van Persie Says:

So I would prefer Serbia over Belgium


Dave Says:

For a small country, Belgium sure makes a lot of good beer.


Wog Boy Says:

“We are not in that century. Furthermore, you don’t understand my post. Don’t conment unless you understand.”

We are in the worst century, Hitler didn’t have nuclear bomb, these idiots have, and who was the first one to (unnecessary) use it as soon as they managed to make it thanks to Hitlers scientists..what an irony. Don’t comment unless you (brainwashed by CNN and Holywood movies) understand world politics. Grab a popcorn, feed the cats and watch one of those “great” “Rocky” or “Rambo” movies.


Giles Says:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mzemek/status/739487566924152837
Pity he couldn’t continue punishing them.

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