Andy Murray v Milos Raonic In The Queen’s Lendl-McEnroe Bowl, Who’s The Pick?
by Sean Randall | June 18th, 2016, 4:29 pm
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While Halle was hit with upsets, the “dream” final in Queen’s was set today as Andy Murray and Milos Raonic will battle for the title on Sunday.

The greater subplot is Ivan Lendl and John McEnroe will resume their rivalry but from the coaching boxes. What are the odds? The first week the two get back into coaching and already they meet?

But let’s slow down. After just a week it’s hard to say how much impact Lendl or McEnroe has really had. Since re-signing Lendl, Murray has looked shaky all week, struggling in his opener against Nicolas Mahut, dropping a set to 21-year-old countryman Kyle Edmund yesterday and today again going three sets 6-3, 4-6, 6-3 to beat fellow former champion Marin Cilic.

So it hasn’t been particularly convincing but he’s winning and he’s winning deciding sets, he’ll point out.

“The third sets today and in the match with Kyle were a very high level from my side of the court, and that’s very pleasing because I know my best tennis is in there,” Murray said. “Obviously just have to try to get the consistency there, which comes with matches and time on the court.”

Raonic has played better on paper. He lost his opening set to Nick Kyrgios and that’s been it. But he hasn’t really been tested by anyone otherwise, and that includes Krygios’s countryman Bernard Tomic. Today in his semifinal, Roanic cruised 6-4, 6-4 over Bernie. And through four matches this week the Canadian hasn’t lost serve saving all seven break chances against him.

Head-to-head, Lendl leads McEnroe 21-15, er…Murray leads Raonic 5-3 winning the last four including two this year memorably in five sets at the Australian Open and a blowout 6-2, 6-0 victory at Monte Carlo. In both losses Raonic was dealing with injuries. This time he won’t be.

“For me it’s going to be about trying to dictate and play on my terms,” Raonic said. “For him it’s going to be trying to take away time from me and trying to make me play as much as possible.”

This will be their first tussle on the grass and first at an event Murray’s won four times. And I think it’s going to be five.

“Obviously [his] serve is the biggest strength in his game,” Murray said. “If I get any chances, it’s important to take them when they come, because there’s not going to be too many.”

And he’s right. So Murray will have to be extra careful not to drop his serve (dropping serve to Raonic on grass is akin to just dropping the set!).

So Raonic and that serve of his will keep it tight, but I think Murray’s experience and urgency gets him the win here. And Mr. Lendl doesn’t want to lose to McEnroe. No way.
The Pick: Murray in three

If the match is boring – Raonic matches trend in that direction – the coaching boxes might offer some relief, especially Milos’s!

Tennis Channel will have live coverage of the Murray-Raonic final at 9:15am ET. And it could be a preview of a match we’ll see the final weekend at Wimbledon!

SUNDAY QUEEN’S SCHEDULE
CENTRE COURT start 2:15 pm
[1] A. Murray (GBR) vs [3] M. Raonic (CAN)
[1] P. Herbert (FRA) / N. Mahut (FRA) vs [PR] J. Benneteau (FRA) / E. Roger-Vasselin (FRA) or [Q] C. Guccione (AUS) / A. Sa (BRA)


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77 Comments for Andy Murray v Milos Raonic In The Queen’s Lendl-McEnroe Bowl, Who’s The Pick?

mat4 Says:

Raonic in two.


Dave Says:

This is a tough pick. But I am also picking Raonic in 3 sets though.


Okiegal Says:

I am gonna put my money on Andy…….


AndyMira Says:

Andy in 3..


Anki Says:

Andy will win in two. He is too good for Raonic.


smr Says:

My head says Andy….dammit


jane Says:

i haven’t watched enough queens to really gage their respective forms, but i am inclined to pick andy for a few reasons: because he’s already won so many queens titles, he is more experienced, and he’ll have the crowd on side, an advantage he enjoys here & at wimbledon. i do think raonic has a slight chance if his serve is really firing but i still think murray will prevail. it’s interesting that both will be wanting to impress their coaches. :)


adolfinjo Says:

its gonna be tight i predict draw and on penalty shoot out murray in 3…djokovic and murray and still far ahead from rest of young pack


Giles Says:

Jane. ” gauge” not “gage”.
🙄


Giles Says:

I keep saying Raonic is rubbish! Lol


Willow Says:

Hopefully Murray in two, urgh cant stand all those booming serves from Raonic ….


Willow Says:

What GC warm up tennis ive seen has been of a good quality, at both Queens and Halle, in spite of the rain, and all the slipping and sliding ….


Honfleuraise Says:

Willow ;-)

** all those booming serves**

With you on that one. Watching the charisma by-pass Raonic is akin to watching paint dry. At least Andy can be relied upon to liven things up with a running commentary about his own performance. lol.

Fully expecting he will treat us to his standard cliffhanger and take it to a deciding set and save his best for when his back is against the wall..


Daniel Says:

Raonic takes first set tiebreak and will serve second set. Murray needs an early break.

Seems Raonic will keep causong him trouble and someone he doesn’t wanna see in his QF for Wimbledon, none wants.


J-Kath Says:

Honfleuraise

Hope you are right, but I doubt it….despite the fact that Andy is doing his damndest.


J-Kath Says:

Willow

Have turned down the sound and may switch off completely. Boo hoo, I’m a poor loser.


skeezer Says:

JMac has to be loving this.


mat4 Says:

So far, it’s like I predicted. But I watched matches of both first.


Daniel Says:

Raonic is playing vert agressive. His BH is way better than a few months also.

3-1 looks like he will close this in two. And enter Wimbledon as one of the favorites, more so then Federer.


mat4 Says:

But I am a jinxer for sure.


Dave Says:

Murray breaks back. We have a match again. Zverev saves match point and wins the second set. Good matches today.


mat4 Says:

And Raonic decidly is a choker. Unbelievable.


Daniel Says:

Quick turn of events and Murray gets 2 breaks and serving for second set. like this resilient Murray fighiting to win in three.

Let’s see of he closes and has a great third set as well. Would like to see him be the first to get 5 Queens titles.


AndyMira Says:

Yep..like i predicted..andy in 3..


Giles Says:

Beautiful trophy in Halle. Apparently 24 carat gold.


Daniel Says:

No way Murray loses this match now a break up.

Huge confidence boost for Wimbledon where he’ll only habe to worry with Novak in finals.

Just have to navigate through his draw.


Daniel Says:

1 game away from history!


AndyMira Says:

Well,let me be the first to congratulate all Andy loyal fans..Margot,RZ,CDP..there’s big hope for wimby..


BBB Says:

Good stuff from Murray today. Second title in a month. Great set up for Wimbledon.


theDA Says:

“Raonic in two”

As adept as ever ;) That was a whirlwind. I thought it was over at 6-7 0-3. Great comeback which had zilch to do with choking IMHO. Come out from behind the couch Margot. I think Andy should donate that jeroboam to his fans don’t you? :)


AndyMira Says:

@Okie..i have to congratulate you too..you’re a big fan of ‘ANDREW’ too right?Looks like your money sure worth it today okie..


J-Kath Says:

Honorfleuraise

I should have listened to you. Next time you have a prediction slip me a note. I was having a very bad day and hoped Andy might cheer me up…so when he looked like going out I evacuated the lounge and lay down. Half an hour later I thought: “Be Brave”…only to find Andy had extraordinarily taken the 2nd set..the rest is history.

Mat4: We were both wrong.


Margot Says:

Thrilled for Andy- 5 times in a row, “history man” indeedy.
And, what a confidence booster going into Wimbledon.
Frew was talking about the “Lendl effect”- increased power in the ground strokes apparently, which’ll please CDP
@dear Kath
do I take it you had teeny weeny doubts as to the outcome….tsk tsk
@da
good to see you back hon. Yep, that champagne would be well deserved. A set and a break down…Yikes!
Big hug and wave to darling Honfleuraise too.
GO ANDEE all the way to Wimbledon!


J-Kath Says:

And to end it all, Lendl left before the presentation.

With a grin, Andy says: “Nice of him to stick around.”


jane Says:

giles

gage = variant of gauge

but thanks.

i knew andy would win; didn’t get to watch but he had to tough out quite a few of his queens matches, just going by scores. lots of breaks/breaks back.


Willow Says:

Yeah super happy for Murray, hope he can take it forward to W for another crack at the title, and what a turn around been a set and a break down, when he plays like that he can beat anybody well almost! ….

Come on Murray lets make more history at W ….


J-Kath Says:

Margot:

I thought you had joined me as “She of little faith”. (Dare I say you too may have had such doubts at 0-3 in second set)???
Good to see you back.


jane Says:

cheers to andy’s fans. enjoy!


Willow Says:

J-Kath i thought Andys presentation speech was hilarious, dont anybody ever dare say our Andy has no sense of humour lol,

HAPPY FATHERS DAY SIR ANDEE MURREEE ;-)) ….


Willow Says:

Sorry hit the submit button too soon, meant to also say, and HAPPY FATHERS DAY TO ALL THE LOVELY MALE POSTERS on the forum, hope your all having a lovely day, and plenty of celebrations ;-)) ….


Margot Says:

@Kath
What? What? Me doubt Andy? Never! ;)
Got a bit fed up with all the “mine’s bigger than yours” on here, so took some time out.
But, like Andy, I’m BACK!


Willow Says:

Hi Margot did you go to Queens ? ….


Giles Says:

One is assuming all the male posters on here are fathers? A bit stupid, no?


jane Says:

wow, halle and queens both have HUGE trophies!

other biggies that i can think of are barcelona and bejing.


RZ Says:

Yay Andy! Holds the record for the most Queens Club titles at 5.

FYI, I may not be on Tennis-X much the next few days, but will post the Wimbledon Racket Bracket on Thursday or Friday.


Willow Says:

Refreshing to see the attention going to a different player for a change ….


Anki Says:

Congrats Andy, well done. He really stepped it up in the second set when he was down 3-0. How good is his serve? And he has improved his second serve too. For me he is hands down the favourite for Wimbledon. Grass is his best surface.


J-Kath Says:

Thanks Jane. As usual Andy does his best to get us ANXIOUS.

Yes Willow…Me too, oh yes, loved that speech!!!

And Margot…Felt similar. But then, it goes with my morning coffee…starts the day well or surge of pe’ed off energy.


Honfleuraise Says:

Elina, where did you get to today? Let me guess. Too busy being feted for Father’s Day.

Margot: metaphorically speaking I was hiding behind your sofa till his nibs got the break in the 2nd set then I knew he was home and dry. Getting good vibes for the rest of the season but not brave enough to predict another OG this time round – lightening doesn’t normally strike in the same place twice!! However, another Wimby title wouldn’t go amiss :-)


Honfleuraise Says:

J-Kath
For the most part I have a good record for predicting Andy’s matches – ask Margot. I also got Mayer right today so giving myself a pat on the back. Be warned however I’m normally pants when it comes to the rest of the field :-(


Willow Says:

Giles sorry should be ANY rather than ALL then, and to yo too if your a father ! ;-)) ….


J-Kath Says:

Honfleuraise

Gosh you were good this time though…..I had all sorts of qualms. Despite the fact that Andy is darned good against big servers, Milos looked unbeatable.


Willow Says:

Murray made history, so can we have a thread about it tennis-x ? ….


Vami Says:

@anki
This is your chance to make money. Andy is 7/2.


Okiegal Says:

Yippy Skippy, Andy did not disappoint me, so glad he won and congrats to his loyal fans……especially Margot and JK! I hope he can go to Wimby and kick butt and take names there too! When I left for church this morning he was a set down, but that didn’t worry me one bit…..he’s been there before. Sorry I couldn’t watch the match…but getting to watch the replay now. Wonder why Ivan checked out early? Rude….me thinks…..but he could have had a good reason….probably wanted to hook up with J-Mac and rub it in!!! LOL.

Well in regard to Queens and Halle, experience on the bigger stage was the key. Congrats to Mayer and his fans also.


Okiegal Says:

@Mira…..Thanks….the only time I’m not a fan is when he plays the “Bull”……..So no chance in that happening for awhile…..onward Andy and make a run at Wimbs!!


J-Kath Says:

Okiegal

You are kind. I hardly deserve your congrats. as I chickened out at 0-3 in second set and went into the gloom…(for some reason was a difficult day to start) so couldn’t get myself to be optomistic. Half an hour later switched on and I felt Whew excited.

PS: Lendl evidently needed to go to the “Loo” and watched the presentation from the upper deck.

PPS: Watching “Osage County” on TV…your neck of the woods, or close?


mat4 Says:

@J-Kath:

Indeed we were wrong. After watching Raonic against Kyrgios, I thought he had made a step forward in his game and mental attitude. I even thought he made the volley at 40-30 in the second set, and that it was 4-1. No BP until then. With his serve, on a wet grass… but it seems there’s nothing to expect from him.

Congrats to the few faithful Andy fan, Margot, RZ, and you, of couse, J-Kath.


mat4 Says:

J-Kath:

About chickening out: it’s the sign of a real fan. I worry before Novak plays Darcis, and RBA is for me, the pinnacle of tennis danger.


Jun Says:

Congrats to Andy and his most loyal fans. Another record!

And to the real mental midgets on this blog, stay where you are and suffer…


adolfinjo Says:

post match interwiew in locker room with ivan lendl about continuing partnershttp://imgur.com/gallery/lhItchip with anddy……lol


Jeff Miller Says:

If anybody has any pull with broadcasters, please urge them to stop using the high camera angle as their default view. The low angle, right above the players, lets us feel the action as if we’re playing. Why the insistence on the view from on high? PLEASE pass this along.


J-Kath Says:

Mat 4

Many thanks. I was watching live at the point you mention and I also think it was out. Had Raonic called it…what then? My guess is that Andy at that stage would still have won…nobody was going to take it from him. It is strange (or not) that his best play and/or determination comes at a UK contest (e.g. Davis Cup where he nearly kills himself) and fails at others? If so, he needs to be equally determined come Wimbledon. There’s the rub! Not master of his own destiny when it really matters.

On Raonic, at Wimbledon, still believe neither Nole nor Andy will want him in their half…he has improved beyond just being a serving bod.


Okiegal Says:

@JK…..yeah, don’t ever give up on Andy…..he has shown a lot of grit in the past in tight matches and pulled them out. As I said I had to leave but unfortunately I knew he was gonna storm back…..just felt it in my bones! Good win for him and next WIMBLEDON!! Can’t wait…..even though my guy is out……I will support my second favorite!!


Okiegal Says:

@JK…..Osage movie not in my viewing area….I have never seen it. Let me know if it’s a goody, and I will rent it…

Skeezer, this one is tight!! Good luck! Cavs up 4……wow!


Okiegal Says:

Sorry, Skeez……..🆗ie


Dave Says:

Wow. Cleveland just won the title. What a game. What a series. Amazing. It’s great that Cleveland finally won.


Okiegal Says:

@AndiMira…Well I am an Andy fan when Rafa is out of commission……don’t know if I need to be singled out…..but thanks and I am so glad he did. I didn’t send congrats to Willow either….she is very happy too!!


AndyMira Says:

Hey okie..yeah..so glad andy won..he really need that..i think we’re gonna see another andy/novak final at wimby..hope with this title and the aura of Lendl around him can produce something meaningful to andy and his loyal fans this summer..and to Willow..sorry forgot to give you congrats..all this time,in my head you’re.. like me and okie were a rafa fan and it slipped my mind that you’re an andy fan as well..so CONGRATS to you mate!


Honfleuraise Says:

Okiegal

I’m in the same boat as you and was all but drummed out of the defunct TennisTalk site for admitting Andy was a favourite of mine except when there is a conflict of interests. Even then I am less devastated if Rafa loses to him as opposed to any other player.

btw do get hold of the Osage movie. I watched it for the second time last night. Gripping stuff and a tour de force by Meryl Streep.


Margot Says:

Honfleuraise, Okgiel and Willow, indeed anyone else with Andy as 2nd favourite, all welcome aboard the battered battlebus. Hope none of you get travel sick tho., gonna be a bumpy ride.
@Honfleur
Did you hear Fleming say Andy is an “adrenaline junky?” Needs back against wall to produce best tennis. My tame psych says on court he behaves like a depressive, needs big challenge to kind of kick himself into action, so he manufactures situations to bet himself out of. Very dangerous when you are playing Nole. Then he needs another strategy ;)
love from tennis-the psychological blog ;)


Okiegal Says:

@Margot…..I somewhat agree with Fleming……seems like Andy’s best comes when he’s down a set…..but he won’t get by with that against Novak! I have to get on someone’s band wagon with Rafa out….Andy will be the one!!


J-Kath Says:

Okie

Honfleuraise re. Osage – saw it twice….there’s your answer.

The title is “August: Osage County” big cast: Meryl Streep, Julia Roberts, Ewan McGregor, Benedict Cumberbath and Abihail Breslin.


Okiegal Says:

Thanks JK….I will rent it and see if I agree…..I love Streep….one of my faves!

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