2016 Wimbledon Seedings: Novak Djokovic And Serena Williams Named Top Seeds
by Staff | June 22nd, 2016, 9:29 am
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The Wimbledon Championships have released the seeding for their 2016 event. The top seeds will again be World No. 1s Novak Djokovic and Serena Williams.

The tournament seeded the men according to their grass court formula which adds 100% of grass court points earned in the last year plus 75% of grass points earned the year before that.

The women’s seedings were based on the June 20th rankings.

The Wimbledon draw will be made Friday morning. The tournament begins Monday with Djokovic scheduled. Serena and Andy Murray will play on Tuesday.

GENTLEMEN’S SINGLES
1 DJOKOVIC, Novak (SRB)
2 MURRAY, Andy (GBR)
3 FEDERER, Roger (SUI)
4 WAWRINKA, Stan (SUI)
5 NISHIKORI, Kei (JPN)
6 RAONIC, Milos (CAN)
7 GASQUET, Richard (FRA)
8 THIEM, Dominic (AUT)
9 CILIC, Marin (CRO)
10 BERDYCH, Tomas (CZE)
11 GOFFIN, David (BEL)
12 TSONGA, Jo-Wilfried (FRA)
13 FERRER, David (ESP)
14 BAUTISTA AGUT, Roberto (ESP)
15 KYRGIOS, Nick (AUS)
16 SIMON, Gilles (FRA)
17 MONFILS, Gael (FRA)
18 ISNER, John (USA)
19 TOMIC, Bernard (AUS)
20 ANDERSON, Kevin (RSA)
21 KOHLSCHREIBER, Philipp (GER)
22 LOPEZ, Feliciano (ESP)
23 KARLOVIC, Ivo (CRO)
24 ZVEREV, Alexander (GER)
25 TROICKI, Viktor (SRB)
26 PAIRE, Benoit (FRA)
27 SOCK, Jack (USA)
28 QUERREY, Sam (USA)
29 CUEVAS, Pablo (URU)
30 DOLGOPOLOV, Alexandr (UKR)
31 SOUSA, Joao (POR)
32 POUILLE, Lucas (FRA)

LADIES’ SINGLES
1 WILLIAMS, Serena (USA)
2 MUGURUZA, Garbine (ESP)
3 RADWANSKA, Agnieszka (POL)
4 KERBER, Angelique (GER)
5 HALEP, Simona (ROU)
6 AZARENKA, Victoria (BLR)
7 VINCI, Roberta (ITA)
8 BENCIC, Belinda (SUI)
9 WILLIAMS, Venus (USA)
10 KEYS, Madison (USA)
11 KVITOVA, Petra (CZE)
12 BACSINSZKY, Timea (SUI)
13 SUAREZ NAVARRO, Carla (ESP)
14 KUZNETSOVA, Svetlana (RUS)
15 STOSUR, Samantha (AUS)
16 PLISKOVA, Karolina (CZE)
17 KONTA, Johanna (GBR)
18 SVITOLINA, Elina (UKR)
19 STEPHENS, Sloane (USA)
20 CIBULKOVA, Dominika (SVK)
21 ERRANI, Sara (ITA)
22 PAVLYUCHENKOVA, Anastasia (RUS)
23 JANKOVIC, Jelena (SRB)
24 IVANOVIC, Ana (SRB)
25 STRYCOVA, Barbora (CZE)
26 BEGU, Irina-Camelia (ROU)
27 BERTENS, Kiki (NED)
28 VANDEWEGHE, Coco (USA)
29 SAFAROVA, Lucie (CZE)
30 KASATKINA, Daria (RUS)
31 GARCIA, Caroline (FRA)
32 MLADENOVIC, Kristina (FRA)


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151 Comments for 2016 Wimbledon Seedings: Novak Djokovic And Serena Williams Named Top Seeds

Daniel Says:

Gasquet benefited from the seedings, got #7 seed, Raonic 6 and Thiem at 8.

Isner, Anderson, Lopez, Kohls all in 17 to 32 seeds. Playeers none of the big 3 would want in their third round match.

As usual draw can be very important due ti some dangerous matches for top players in R32 and R16. As for QF, Thiem seems the one none wants and I ber Murray also doesn’t wnat to see Raonic in his QF.


Yolita Says:

And with Delpo not being seeded, he could be a R1 opponent for anybody. The draw will be very important indeed.I’m just hoping for no big-servers in the first week, whcih is when Novak is most vulnerable.


Giles Says:

Here’s hoping joker draws Karlovic, Isner, Raonic, Delpo. ‘Twill be but a challenge. 😉


J-Kath Says:

Goffin just beat Nole at the Expo. 2-0.


Margot Says:

Lol Kath: Hmmm we better put Goffin into Nole’s half then. Better see what Giles advises :)
Daniel: Hmm if Raoinic had just beaten Andy, then yes, but as he didn’t?
Yolita: Don’t think, from what I’ve seen JMDP can trouble the top 10 yet. Famous last words of course but I don’t think he’s even fully it yet.


Giles Says:

Yolita says joker never tries at Boodles. Lol. Guess we’d better take Goffin’s win with a grain of salt.
Eeeeek these joker fans!!


jalep Says:

Margot are you watching this Konta v Kvitova match? It’s good. In fact all Eastbourne matches today have been good. Konta is has a break on Petra!


J-Kath Says:

Margot:
He’s taking it with a pinch of salt! We can trust Giles.

Re. Raonic. At Queens I was dubious about Andy beating him in 3 but I thought Andy could do it in 5. Perhaps we’ll still let Nole have Raonic and Andy can have Goffin…..???

PS: Konta’s on right now. 4 for Konta vs. Kvita 2.


J-Kath Says:

Jalep: You beat me too it. I didn’t see it till I hit submit.


Willow Says:

Margot /Jalep i am, Jo is a good solid player, not intimidated with the power of Kvitova either, shes very calm ….

Question i like Sam Smith as a commie, but is Anne Keothavong just about the worst commontator ever ? ….


jalep Says:

This Eastbourne round of 16 – every match-up looked good. So far so good too! Radwanska will play Cibulkova tomorrow in the quarterfinal — always a fun match-up


Margot Says:

jalep I love Petra and I don’t think beating her at the mo signifies much, she’s been so off. Saw a bit of Woz and Puig. Woz was looking good, suddenly she lost!
Wish Cibulova was a foot taller, such gutsy player.
Thanks for the advice Giles….so we aren’t putting Goffin in Nole’s half then ;)


Yolita Says:

@Gilles
Novak has never ever won the Boodles. Never. Last year he lost to baby Zverev and to Kokkinakis.
Jusat like in Kooyong he lost to Tomic and I think Kokkinakis as well.
If you want to think that Novak was really trying to win, go ahead and think it.
So Goffin is now 3-28 against top-10 players…not 2-28. OK.


Giles Says:

Margot and J-k. I do not appreciate sarcasm!
Eeeeeek!!


Giles Says:

” Nole has never won the Boodles” LOL.
His aim is to get practice, not to win.


BBB Says:

Kvitova sure is a mess.


Vami Says:

@Yolita
Don’t bother answering haters/trolls.


James Says:

Nice to see Thiem as the No. 8 seed – that gives him an excellent chance of making the QF, and then anything can happen. We need some younger players to step up, this geriatric fest is getting boring.


Van Persie Says:

“geriatric fest”? Roger would not be pleased to read that


Willow Says:

Chris Bradnam described Radwanska as the Santoro of the WTA ….


Willow Says:

Although Kvitovas still not back to her best, im so happy for our Jo, hope both do well at SW19 ….


J-Kath Says:

Hey Giles – If it was sarcasm, it sure wasn’t directed at you. The ambiguity of your “sometimes” replies is often too much to resist…the secret lies in resolving the word-game…something you are usually good at.
Cheers


Temple Says:

I will start worrying about Djokovic when he starts winning this Boodle decadence tournament (which will mean a desperate need to reassure himself).


Willow Says:

I Doubt Novak will be losing sleep over losing in an exho ….


Giles Says:

J-K. Cheers. 😊


Okiegal Says:

Geriatric fest?? I resemble that remark. 😕😕😕 lol!


chrisford1 Says:

Willow: “Chris Bradnam described Radwanska as the Santoro of the WTA”

The only differences being Santoro always strived to improve and his artistry included offense skills, not defense alone. …


J-Kath Says:

And U too Giles.


J-Kath Says:

Okiegal

No way Hosie. U’ve got a lot more naughty things to say and do…goodness the mind boggles at what you could get up to.


J-Kath Says:

By 9.55pm tomorrow the UK/NI votes to leave or stay in the EURO vote will have been lodged.

Good night everyone.


jane Says:

good luck with that j-kath. (i think, were i voting, i’d vote to remain, based on the debates and everything i read and listened to when i was in the UK for holidays.)


chrisford1 Says:

J-Kath is right to bring BREXIT up. Wimbledon is happening in this country in a time of a true landmark vote that can have a profound impact on the UK and the EU.
If it passes there, you may see the famously independent French follow.
A lot of issues driving this. The main being populations not happy loosing sovereignity to a body of unelected Eurocrats drawn from law schools and academia dictating to nations from their Brussels and Geneva edfices. And very unhappy given the perception Eurocrats are widely considered to have made many bad calls on currency, immigration, trying to overexpand the EU to the point where a number of Muslim nations want in, and Russia now inflamed over EU meddling in their backyard


BBB Says:

Eurocrats in Geneva edifices?


Okiegal Says:

@J-Kath……Thanks for the vote of confidence!! LOL


Colin Says:

Chrisford, this”backyard” phrase is too much used, and mostly incorrectly. Your backyard is your own property, but places like the Crimea and Ukraine are not Russia’s property; they are countries in their own right.

In the same way, Latin American countries are not America’s backyard, but sovereign states.

The fact that Muslim countries want to join the EU is not bad in itself. It depends what sort of Muslim we’re talking about. Remember, the current Mayor of London is a Muslim, but I don’t think he’s about to impose Sharia law in the city, or institute female circumcision and the burka!

Sadly, the immigration question has spawned lunatic right-wingers like the guy who recently murdered the MP Jo Cox. Scotland wants to join the EU independently if they should eventually leave the UK, and,joking aside, Scots are not all fools, having supplied many British Prime Ministers (some of whom had their failings, of course, as do all political leaders).

This morning I shall vote to stay in the EU, and I hope a sufficient number of fellow Labour voters will do the same. I’m not optimistic, though.

As for the tennis, it’s been raining heavily in London for most of the night, and goodness knows how the players will get a chance to hone their grass-court skills, with only Centre Court having a roof.


Wog Bog Says:

” …but places like the Crimea and Ukraine are not Russia’s property; they are countries in their own right.”

Colin,
Do yourself favour and next time when you decide to post something do little bit of research and learn more about Ukraine (history, how it came to exist and boundaries) and Crimea (how and why became part of Ukraine only in 1953 during USSR), you obviously have lack of knowledge about that particular matter, not surprisingly.


Margot Says:

@Colin
Hooray, another Remain. The loony right has hijacked the debate, let’s hope the overwhelming economic argument wins the day.
And tolerance.


mat4 Says:

@Colin:

Before you write anything more about Crimea and Sebastopol, about Ukraine too — learn.

Ukraine didn’t exist as a state before the Bolshevik revolution, it was a part of the Russian empire. Until 1954, Crimea was an autonomous region inside Russia, not Ukraine. The Khrushchev (N. K. was from Ukraine, btw) act was never ratified, ergo illegal. But anyway.

Crimea was a region with special rights in 1991, among them, the right to referendum — and the Russian used it and declared independence back then. Ukraine invaded Crimea despite the legal right of Crimea to form a country. Sebastopol was a Russian city with a special status inside Crimea. Eltsine, that so democratic president, was too drunk to take care of his own country.

The Maidan so-called revolution had one aim: to allow the US to take Crimea and the control of the Black Sea for themselves. It’s natural that Russia didn’t allow it. But Russia did it legally. It’s not a country like GB who will bomb Libya to get its oil, gold, and billions of dollars, or send its SAS disguised as terrorists to kill Serbian civilians (something also well documented; unfortunately, my own country took the same, dishonourable paths). They help organize a new referendum, where more than 90% of Crimean (predominantly Russians) decided to join Russia. Meanwhile, Ukraine is bankrupt, its gold stolen, while in Crimea standard of life has improved many fold.


Okiegal Says:

I wish I knew what this was all about…..I am in the wrong area of the world to understand what is going in Europe….you all make it sound very interesting. Well anything political is always controversial regardless of where in the universe one lives. I can tell from TX conversations Europeans seem to know what is going in the USA……but I have no clue what is going on in Europe……..lol! I just no it is 3:00 in the morning and I’m sleepless in Ada, Oklahoma….lol


Okiegal Says:

I just know, not no….should have said……I know better….lol I do have a high school diploma….1 yr of college……


Tumisu Says:

Who do you think will win this WB? Novak seems to be the clear favorite, but maybe Murray has a shot. I found this poll about it and I thought you might want to vote!
https://netivist.org/debate/who-will-win-wimbledon-2016


Margot Says:

2 in 2 out on here and I suspect the vote will be just as close…..with Willow having the casting vote. Don’t worry Willow don’t want to know, voting is an entirely private matter.
Crikey Giles, just teasing you in your capacity as tennisx’s tormentor in chief of Nole fans. EEK!


J-Kath Says:

Margot. In my area people openly discuss how they intend to vote in the way that they don’t do for general elections, possibly because the Referendum crosses party lines and we all have to live with the result for a huge chunk of our life-times whereas the results of a general election can be changed in 4-5 years.

Feel sorri for Willow. What a responsibility she has.

Thanks for your good luck message, Jane. At the very least, let’s hope we all settle down and accept the result, no matter what it is.


Giles Says:

Margot. Hahaha. You mean I have a status on Tennis X?


Michael Says:

No surprises over the seedings. More interested in the draw and to which end Roger falls.


Willow Says:

J-Kath / Margot / Colin im OUT, and thats all ill say CHEERS ….


Willow Says:

^ I Doubt it will go down very well with most of the posters here, but then again, nothing i ever say does anyway, so whats new eh ? ^ ….


Willow Says:

Chris Ford 1, yeah if you say so ! ….


J-Kath Says:

Welcome Willow: I celebrate your individuality.

AND You know what our wee Scottish bard said: “Sticks and stones will break yer bones but words will never hurt you.”


Anki Says:

No Djokovic Kyrgios at Boodles, I was so looking forward to that.


BBB Says:

Oof, Azarenka pulling out of Wimbledon.

FWIW, I am sympathetic to both sides of the Brexit debate.


jalep Says:

Margot, does this mean our Yurt in the South of France is off? I’ll need to make alternate plans come November?


jalep Says:

As usual, great stuff from Cibby v Aga.
Also Pliskova v Vesnina and Konta v Makarova coming up.


Willow Says:

Well in between finishing my course work i can look forward to some great matches ….


courbon Says:

Margot-
To be a yurth or not to be, it’s is a question now?


Willow Says:

Nice to see you here Courbon ;-)) ….


jalep Says:

“LONDON, England – On Thursday morning The All England Club announced the seeds for the most historic tournament on the tennis calendar, Wimbledon. Here is the full list:

Updated 6/23/16 to reflect the withdrawal of No.6 seed Victoria Azarenka (knee injury):

(1) Serena Williams (USA #1)
(2) Garbiñe Muguruza (ESP #2)
(3) Agnieszka Radwanska (POL #3)
(4) Angelique Kerber (GER #4)
(5) Simona Halep (ROU #5)
(6) Roberta Vinci (ITA #7)
(7) Belinda Bencic (SUI #8)
(8) Venus Williams (USA #9)
(9) Madison Keys (USA #10)
(10) Petra Kvitova (CZE #11)
(11) Timea Bacsinszky (SUI #12)
(12) Carla Suárez Navarro (ESP #13)
(13) Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS #14)
(14) Samantha Stosur (AUS #16)
(15) Karolina Pliskova (CZE #17)
(16) Johanna Konta (GBR #18)

(17) Elina Svitolina (UKR #19)
(18) Sloane Stephens (USA #20)
(19) Dominika Cibulkova (SVK #21)
(20) Sara Errani (ITA #22)
(21)Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova (RUS #23)
(22) Jelena Jankovic (SRB #24)
(23) Ana Ivanovic (SRB #25)
(24) Barbora Strycova (CZE #26)
(25) Irina-Camelia Begu (ROU #27)
(26) Kiki Bertens (NED #28)
(27) CoCo Vandeweghe (USA #29)
(28) Lucie Safarova (CZE #30)
(29) Daria Kasatkina (RUS #31)
(30) Caroline Garcia (FRA #32)
(31) Kristina Mladenovic (FRA #33)
(32) Andrea Petkovic (GER #34)”

http://www.wtatennis.com/news/article/5671237/title/wimbledon-the-seeds

Here’s my list of dangerous floaters: Caroline Wozniacki, Sabine Lisicki, Monica Puig, Eugenie Bouchard, Ekaterina Makarova, Timea Babos, Elena Vesnina, and Jelena Ostapenko.

Unfortunately rain interrupted match play at Eastbourne. Three QF’s yet to be played. I’m giving up on them for the day!


Willow Says:

I will have finished my course work by tomorrow in time to enjoy W with no distractions YIPEE, then a maths test, a presentation, the the whole things done with double YIPEE ….


jalep Says:

Congratulations Willow! Wow, good job. That must feel great 💃🍾


J-Kath Says:

Yes, Willow. Well done. A load of your shoulders.


J-Kath Says:

Anki
Did Nole and Nick withdraw?


Willow Says:

Jalep / J-Kath sure does thanks ladies ;-) …

Jalep love the emotijo lol ….


Okiegal Says:

@Willow……I echo the other TX posters……a big CONGRATULATIONS on getting your course work finished! Feels good, don’t it?? Enjoy Wimby….I’m still lamenting a wee bit over the wrist prob…..but Rafa fans are resilient….we’ve had to be!


Willow Says:

Okie ;-)) ….


jalep Says:

Okiegal, come over to the WTA side of life for Wimbledon! Rafa will be back for the Olympics. Meanwhile…WTA!😉

Who is your favorite?


Okiegal Says:

@Jalep…..Will go with Serena, of course……then Keys. I am really liking her. My European favorite is Halep. WTA is always up in the air on who shows up to play and who doesn’t. Serena is a prrime example of that. She can play horrible and still eke out a win by the skin of her teeth….and sometimes not. But love to watch her….her passion for tennis reminds me so much of Rafa….and that’s a plus!!


jalep Says:

Yes, I think I’ll go with Serena one more time. Can’t wait for the draw to come out! There will be a lot of dangerous floaters — not that any would go all the way and win but could knock out some top seeds — upsets galore is what I think.


Willow Says:

Jalep /Okie i think Serena is the safe bet, if she has her head screwed on, and i do believe she will surpass Graff in the long run, but i just dont think she will dominate womens tennis anymore, i think other girls are now getting the measure of her ….


calmdownplease Says:

‘the current Mayor of London is a Muslim, but I don’t think he’s about to impose Sharia law in the city, or institute female circumcision and the burka!’

Oh really?
Is that why Khan astonishingly (& patronisingly) banned those protein ads with the not overly dressed women to protect, as he claimed, the self esteem (of presumably FAT) women?
Oh yes, it must be that.
Nothing to do with Sharia’s views on the matter
Or the segregated rallies for ‘In’ that he has recently conducted?
Or his tireless defense of illiberal like Dr Yusuf Al-Qaradawi when he was a ‘human rights’ lawyer?
But no doubt I will be stereotyped as a rabid racist by a certain posters here.
As anyone concerned by Islamic fundamentalism has been tarred with.
Except Islam isn’t a race etc.
@Nice one Willow!
welcome to being a xenophobic racist etc
;0)


Willow Says:

CDP Please dont call me a racist, i certainly dont appreciate that ! ….


calmdownplease Says:

Don’t be ridiculous!
I was obviously being sarcastic.
major sense of humour/common sense fail there….


Willow Says:

CDP Well thank goodness then ….


calmdownplease Says:

mmmmm


chrisford1 Says:

Tough to back off an interesting political discussion, but in respect for people that seek refuge in sport to get a bit of relief from a troubled world, maybe it’s best to table it.

Sometimes it is hard to avoid, like when what Andy sought with the Scottish Referendum was a news topic on all the blogs, Facebook, etc,. BREXIT is another such time as not only important to Brits like J-Kath but the potential impact on the tennis structure. Tennis will be affected if the EU and it’s currency gets on a track for dissolution. If national sovereignity and more control by citizens of each nations destiny comes back. Spillover effects can impact Russia, America, the OAS, African Union, the desire by some Eurocrats to open Europe up to mass Muslim immigration to support their programs for an aging European population, pan-Balkanism.

So some words on it seemed appropriate, like if Queen Elisabeth II died during Wimbledon…

Given our comment groups varying backgrounds, an interesting discussion would result if Sean did do a political thread topic on something like “Would a restart of the Cold War over the Ukraine Republic, NATO expansion, potential breakup of the EU – spillover into sport?”

Looking ahead, I believe adverse factors off the tennis courts will be important at the RIO Olympics, impacting tennis and other athletes. And there will be unavoidable discussions on that.


calmdownplease Says:

‘let’s hope the overwhelming economic argument wins the day.’

Oh sure Margot!
I mean, look at Greece, France, Spain, Portugal, soon to be everywhere in the Eurozone
The EU really, really WORKS……
Overwhelmingly even…


calmdownplease Says:

@chrisford

we won’t win (yet)
‘remain’ is a ‘hang onto nurse’ type set up.
I would be very proud of my country if it happened but I’m not quite feeling it right now.


calmdownplease Says:

‘the desire by some Eurocrats to open Europe up to mass Muslim immigration to support their programs for an aging European population’

Um, that plan is well underway…….


calmdownplease Says:

I’m ‘tabling it’ now :)


Baa Says:

Top 10 players that Roddick failed to beat in his fake matches
for Wimbledon & Davis Cup,
probably believed he was just practicing at Queen’s club
& exhibitions, for serious matches.
Almost as pretty as Fed’s losses since 2008.
Roddick was impressive for someone who only
showed up to bash the ball &
hate everything about tennis & non-Ballet,
non-sycophantic players.

RoddIck practiced choking seriously, with the grandest
epic style in the HISTORY of all sports.

To put Fed number 1 on the propaganda list.
Above Lance Armstrong or Tiger Woods.
Tiger was on the golf course with Fed, his “new brother”.
Fed-related forums & articles were so unreal
that you could almost believe them.

The difference between the suffocating weak era &
today’s reality is that Novak has a pretty body,
no fake girlfriends, decency, brains, great multilingual
education, and a non-criminal life. No Djoking.


RZ Says:

If I did everything correctly, the URL for the Wimbledon Racquet Bracket (ATP) is http://www.tourneytopia.com/RacquetBracketWimbledonATP/TennisXersWimbledon2016

I believe the draw comes out tomorrow so we should all be able to start making our picks then.


Margot Says:

Lol CDP, You are sooooo right wing. Still in rebellion against your parents I suppose. Bless.
Thanks RZ. You are a star. Going to do Jalep’s WTA one too. Tho was hopeless at RG.
Willow, write what you like and don’t apologise, this isn’t the “Fascist Tennis Dysfunctional Blog”….yet……


Willow Says:

Cheers Margot ….

RZ Many thanks for setting this up again, have registered already, like Margot i was crap on the RG, but i still enjoy these challenges, and will do Jaleps too ….


Margot Says:

Many congratulations on finishing your course Willow. Well done you.
Lol Giles, I’d say you do. The very Ramsay Bolton of tennisx….
;)


Willow Says:

Cheers Margot ;-)) ….


Nikola Says:

My Europian favorite for ATP is Novak, and my non Europian favorite is Andy Murray.


jalep Says:

And for the very brave: Wimbledon Racquet Bracket WTA
http://www.tourneytopia.com/RacquetBracketWimbledonWTA/jalep1

All are welcome — even the not so brave 😊


Dave Says:

Jalep,

I just pre-registered. It’s free right? I am going to be terrible. But it will still be fun.


RZ Says:

Thanks Jalep!
Dave – there’s no cost to enter either of the brackets…except perhaps pride. :-)


Dave Says:

RZ,

I am entering your bracket you got set up as well. I can’t wait. Should be fun. Thank you for all of your hard work as well. I really appreciate it. Good job.


Dave Says:

I will be sentimental with my pics in both brackets. If I win, it will feel so much better. I have a hard time picking against guys and gals that I like. So, sentimentality in contests like these, equals not doing to well. But it will be fun, all the same.


Dave Says:

I finally pieced things together about why there have been some comments about Nole possibly having a letdown. I’m thinking it might possibly be related to Andy Murray admitting that he had a letdown after he won Wimbledon in 2013. I specifically remember him saying that he felt such a relief to finally winning Wimbledon that he just wasn’t there against Wawrinka in the QF’s at the U.S. Open where he was blown off the court in straights sets. I’m still going to go with my opinion on this and say that the same won’t be true for Nole. But I do see your point more clearly now.


J-Kath Says:

The results so far in on LEAVE or STAY are currently leaning to LEAVE. The Pound has dropped 3/4 cents re. the dollar. Won’t bore you with this ….when I go to bed I’ll give another brief – whether you want it or not.


Humble Rafa Says:

What is the date for the following UK referendums.

1) Is Fish and Chips English?
2) Is Chicken Tikka Masala English?
3) Is Prince Charles a woman?


jane Says:

dave, for me, it’s nothing to do with andy. it’s more to do with the fact that the 3 times novak won wimbledon, he was coming off a difficult loss at the FO: 2011 semi, 2014 and 14 finals. so i always wondered if that lit a fire under him to win on the grass and buoy his spirits. this time, he’s finally achieved his goal, with a win at the FO, so i was just wondering if maybe he’d be less fired up for grass. but another way to look at is that he is half way to the calendar slam and that might motivate him and/or that he’ll be loose and more dangerous, feeling confident. hard to say, really.


jane Says:

^ 14 and 15 fnals at FO


Dave Says:

Reading Johnny Mac’s comments today, he said that Nole will be highly motivated. I tend to agree with him on this one. And it’s more than just the calendar slam for Nole. Ever since he won the U.S. Open last year, things have really changed. Nole believes he can pass 17 slams. Beating Federer straight up at Wimbledon and the U.S. Open last year back to back swung the momentum in his favor. If he loses those 2 majors, it’s 19 to 10 right now instead of 17 to 12. Or if they split it, 18 and 11. The belief to get to 17 is there and the goal is in full force. That’s his main goal in the end.


jane Says:

yes, i saw those j-mac comments too. it’ll be interesting to follow.

on another note, wow – it’s looking like brexit has won – i am quite shocked.


chrisford1 Says:

A wait and see thing with the momentous Brexit vote for me, just going on my American experience, of various wards and states and especially Democrat-controlled large cities coming in late with suspiciously lopsided ballots. I don’t know if the UK has the problem with repeat voters, cemetery voters, phantom voters – I hope not.
Looks like “Leave” is definitely ahead as of this time. And it may be the start of a global revolt against unelected Elites written rules the Masses must follow and UN Covenents voted on by no one save appointed lawyers and career UN officials.

And back to voters having more say in their national destiny.


Margot Says:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis

Hope the leavers can hear the sound of the pound crashing.
A truly sad day.
Dear Corbourn please prepare yurt soonest.


courbon Says:

I will not be able to post today-I have to erect yurth today, because I think Margot is coming in next couple of days….


Margot Says:

Oh courbon, you heard me! Thank god! I’m packing, I’m packing right away.
Goy my new passport yesterday, truly I am mystic Meg!


courbon Says:

Margot-I think we have been writing in the same time…
It’s a sad for you-keep the chin up , virtual hug from South West France…


Margot Says:

Thank you darling, I need a hug. So sad to see my country disappear in a quagmire of isolation and bigotry.
A sad, sad day. RIP disUnited Kingdom. .


chrisford1 Says:

On Djokovic – I liken it to a medium distance race. Runner moving slowly up the pack, then powers up to a place in the group of leaders. Looking like the freshest and strongest – who as everyone watching the leaders pack suddenly sees or fears – may all of a sudden turn it on to the max and take over.

If you look outside “Slamcount” he is passing Legends marks right and left.

Novak takes motivation from USO boos, from not getting Grand Slam credit for his 4 in a row. He benefits I think from all the people saying only 4 Slams in a calendar year truly matters. Supposedly because it is so much harder to do 4 in a row starting at one arbitrary Slam, and can only duplicate Laver and Steffi that way.

I believe he and Boris are supremely motivated for Wimbledon. Should he win that, 5 in a row and even the most rabid and halftarded Fed fan will have a hard time making the argument 4 in a row in one year is far more of an accomplishment than 5 in a row. How he fares at the USO is irrelevant if he gets Wimbledon, IMO. No other recognized streak is bounded by a year. If that is argued, then you have to toss out all the win streaks that are not bounded by a calendar year.

5 in a row makes the concept only 6 in a row equals the “prestige” of the 4 in a row feat of Laver sound strange even to a kid ho passed 2nd grade math.

But should he not trophy at Wimbledon – (Tsonga has a monster serve day, etc.) the monster year he is on yet again would hardly be ‘lost’. Olympics, the 1st player to achieve a Masters Sweep if he gets Cincinnati. USO he will be the favorite at. A chance to equal Fed’s record of 6 Championships. Another year end finish of 52 weeks at #1…

Each big event Djokovic now enters is huge if he wins. So close to so many records they are tough to track. But Wimbledon is now super big in consequence if he wins. IMO – better than a calendar year Grand Slam.


courbon Says:

It’may look bad now, but Britain will survive.And it’s not only Britain thinking like that. They have donee poll yesterday in France and 48% would also vote to leave ! ( Ok, it was a small poll but who would expect it from French? marie Le Pen is celebrating tonight-this will have a ramifications for france-big time! ° )
One thing is for sure-not just a Britain but whole Europe is going to go throught the tough times…


Margot Says:

Agree with you there courbon, but as a poorer less tolerant, less out-going nation, oh great. And I think this will inevitably mean the end of the EU, born out of the ashes of the second world war. Hopefully it can once again emerge from these ashes like a phoenix.
The far right seems to be sweeping Europe. horrible.


jane Says:

margot, sorry things didn’t go the “UK” way. : /


Margot Says:

Trump in the White House next, jane? Oh joy.


jane Says:

i think the dutch leader already called for a referendum there too! :O


Wog Boy Says:

Congrats to brave ordinary British people who defeated multinational corporations and merchant banks.

I just hope that sleazy “picousti Vodja” and his clones will get the message and stop pushing Serbai to EU slavery.


courbon Says:

Wog Boy-Hi mate.Long time no speaking-hope its all well with you and your family. People do have a power,; thet is a clear message today…


Van Persie Says:

This thing should have happened long time ago.

Margot,
Don’t be sad. Atm, with or without EU the things are bad in Europe, my opinion


Wog Boy Says:

Courbon all good here thanks, hope all is well with you and your girls too. Yes People do have power umless they tired and sleepy like our people in Serbia, hope this will wake them up.


chrisford1 Says:

In the mid 1970s, the West began seeing the Elites Who Know Best slowly disenfranchising the people of nations, bending the West to this Globalist, MultiKulti, common currency vision they had that they knew as highly educated people, would pan out wonderfully.
All people would soon have the same vision, and a diverse, but shared tolerant culture. Which of course required the deconstruction of traditional Western institutions and values. Mass movement of production out of the West, mass import of 3rd Worlders in, was essential. The pace quickened after the Soviet Union fell.

That is all in ruins. Never fell into place like the Ruling Elites were so confident it would. PC became an enforcement tool to cow the masses. The media academia, and in some nations the legal system fell into place to back the Elites and also cow the peasants.

4 years ago, the rise in America of Bernie Sanders, Trump, and the most corrupt conniving woman is US politics was unthinkable. 4 years ago, the labeling of Frau Merkel as the 2nd most damaging elected politician Germany has produced in the last 100 years was unthinkable.
European nationalist parties were dismissed as jokes or threatened with legal action for “intolerance”.

It’s quite a mess, and transnationalism, free trade to move all the skilled worker jobs to China possible, the sneers of the Ruling Elites are entering a period where they can expect strong pushback. People seem no longer intimidated by charges of racism and un-PC beliefs for wanting their way of life to be preserved


courbon Says:

Wog Boy-I think Serbians are just tired of everything..;
My family good, thanks.


Van Persie Says:

But do not worry, UE will not collaps yet. There is still so much to be taken and to be destroyed in the eastern countries from UE…


chrisford1 Says:

I believe in some ways, the story of Pauline Kael, a famous NY Times critic and longtime Manhattanite from a tradition of leftist Jewish politics is illustrative of what just hit the chattering classes in that 3rd World Mecca of Londonistan.

In 1968, Kael had a meltdown with the landslide election of Richard Nixon. Commenting how unbelievable it was because not a single person she knew in Manhattan, the Hamptons, even Miami or LA LIKED Nixon, let alone thought he would win. She was not alone. All the NYC media fell into the same mutual confirmation bias trap.
Everyone those Elites knew thought the same way, said the same things and none had any meaningful contact with average Americans save the “angry and unfortunate Negroes whose voice must be heard by we opinionmakers”.

This will be very traumatic for the Elites of Londonistan. We may see symptoms at Wimbledon when they attend…

Pretty remarkable how divided the UK was by geographical region. The Guardians map in yellow and blue is even more dramatic than the US red state-blue state map of 2000.


Margot Says:

Thank you VP, but I am very sad, for all sorts of reasons and the majority of people, who were poorer and less well educated than the Remains,who voted for Brexit will be by far the worst off.
In other news Cameron resigns, so not all bad then, but rats and ship spring to mind.


Van Persie Says:

Margot,

It will be very interesting to see the consequences on the UK and the remaining of UE…Perhaps it will be a good lesson for Merkel. I am very curious how everything will look like in the future.
Honestly, I do not know how it would have been better. We will see.
Now I am looking forward for the Wimbledon draw, on this very historical day ;) hehe


Wog Boy Says:

Angela Merkel is the one that should resign, she is the one that scared the rest of the Europe by encouraging illegal immigrants to come to Europe, she is the Boss in Europe.


Wog Boy Says:

Chain reaction is expected, Holland, Denmark, France…EU as we know it is dead…make sure that last country to leave switch the light off.


J-Kath Says:

Margot

Sorri you are disappointed. But…..

“…..the majority of people who were poorer and less well educated than the Remains, who voted for Brexit will be by far the worst off….” ???

Not everyone in Scotland are well educated and rich and they voted over-whelmingly to Remain.
The same applies to London
And to a reasonable degree the same applies to N.I and Wales.

Ah well. Hopefully we can agree to disagree.

And move rapidly on to the Wimbledon draw.


FedExpress Says:

fed in the same half as nole

the slimiest chances to reach the final now gone


Ivica Says:

@FedExpress
Where did you see the draw? I’m checking all morning at Wimbledon official site and it’s not there…


Willow Says:

J-Kath i agree for all sorts of reasons, im happy we are out, ill just leave it at that ….

Margot im with J-Kath on this one, i hope we can agree to disagree, and onto W come on Murray ….


FedExpress Says:

ivica, rothenbergs twitter account


Ivica Says:

FedExpress

Thanks, I guess I’ll have to wait, I don’t have twitter account :-(


Colin Says:

Chrisford, I don’t think the Kael comparison applies to the Brexit referendum. Many have complained for a long time that the Westminster governing gang is composed mostly of people privileged and out of touch with the masses, and this applies to the Labour and LIb-Dem parties too.
.
However, these politicians, and the press that supports them, are mostly right-wing. Listening to the people holding forth during last night, it was clear that the this narrow victory for leaving was achieved by people who are cynical populists happy to take advantage of the less attractive side of the British character. A supreme example of this was Margaret Thatcher, who came to power by appealing to the attitude summed up by the phrase “I’m all right, Jack”.

Our status as a bunch of small offshore islands has bred an aggressive distrust and dislike of foreigners, often descending to straightforward racism. People like Boris Johnson (a sort of mini-Trump)are less interested in politics than in their own image. He, and Farage (also in reality from a “posh” background)don’t have a coherent plan for our future.

The bogy of foreign immigration has by no means been slain by the referendum result. The National Health Service, starved of funds by successive governments of all political colours, has a desperate need for staff at all levels, and is forced to recruit them from abroad. Doctors don’t grow on trees, and not nearly enough are being trained here. So the doctors, nurses and dentists on whom I am increasingly dependent, are a United Nations in miniature, Indian, Caribbean, and assorted East Europeans, and this will continue. A proportion of those at Westminster who have run down the NHS are, like so many Americans, hostile to the whole concept of universal health care, branding it as communistic. Nonetheless, we in bankrupt old UK are healthier and longer lived than Americans. I’m already well past the average life expectancy of US males, and that means white Americans, not the generally worse off blacks.

Regarding Wimbledon, I am more concerned about the weather than anything else. London had loads of rain last night, with flooding in some places, and although it’s dry right now, there are plenty of clouds. I just hope Andy can get enough practice time, and I shall as usual follow his probably tantalising progress. If the unthinkable happened, and he could find a way to beat Nole, I reckon Lendl ought to get a medal. That assumes Andy reaches the final, and no doubt his progress will be hard on the nerves of his fans, as usual.


jalep Says:

Margot heartfelt sympathy dear friend. Hugs.


jalep Says:

Donald Trump visiting in Scotland says, “Brexit a great thing.”

Uhg…that’s enough for me.


Daniel Says:

Euro and Pound down their worst curtency in last year here in Brazil, will be cheeper to travel now;-)

I am with you Margot, didn’t like this news at all. When we thought the world would be getting more “globalised” and this. I always gelt I am a citizen of the world not attached to boundries and over the top patriotism.
My sister is in Rotterdam finishing her law master degress and said most people were in shock.


Ronn Says:

Excellent posts, ChrisFord. You’ve done your homework and you’ve done it well…


Margot Says:

Thank you jalep darling, I need hugs. And you too Daniel. I feel exactly like that too. So sad today. And looking at the fall out, I feel much worse.
Kath: just look at the voting map. Swathes of the North and East Anglia, the valleys of Wales, all poor, all out. Extraordinary stupidity.
Anyway, enough from me, but I don’t care too much about Wimbledon or tennis at the mo.TBH.


Willow Says:

Margot i wish id never said anything now, hugs to you from me, even if you dont want them, i can understand if you tell me to shove it where the sun doesnt shine :(( ….


Margot Says:

Willow, although I despair I’m not gonna get personal. I don’t blame you, I blame the dreadful lies the “Outers” told you and the awful, feeble campaign the “Inners” fought.
I blame the politicians on both sides.


Okiegal Says:

@Margot…..this vote to remain or go…….what does that mean?? Is it like here in the USA in 1864 ceceding from the union? Just wondering……of course I realize it’s a big political deal and you are obviously very upset about it and I am sorry. I am sure I could Google something that would explain it. Still sorry for you. You get thousands of people involved in a controversial problem and everyone has their views on the matter and they think their view is right. Opinions……3 sides to every argument…..your’s, their’s and the truth. Hang in there Margot….maybe things won’t be as bad it seems…….🆗


Willow Says:

Oh dear probably best i dont post for a while ….


BBB Says:

…as Trump discusses the posh suites in his new hotel.


BBB Says:

Margot, in my view, the Common Market – a relatively narrow construct — was considered the critical step to preclude ogoing wars. To me, the EU expanded and expanded its mandate, becoming a self-propelling mechanism that exptended its reach for the sake of extending its reach. I don’t know that it would necessarily be an adverse exercise to get back to first principles (the Common Market). But I mean that truly – I don’t know. As I said yesterday, I am sympathetic to both sides on this debate and hope the post-mortem involves a lot of listening.


J-Kath Says:

Margot: I stayed up to almost to the end. Yes, the swathes of middle England.

Cameron needs to complete the task properly or he needs to be accompanied by a rep. from each of the UK countries affected when he makes his report to the EU? He has not earned that right to hug and kiss on his own.

Where is the Chancellor hiding?
Speak to you again. K.
……..

Okie: It is more like the US getting rid of the Brits and their King and declaring independence.


Pamela Says:

I don’t know if any of you are American. I am and seeing Trump get asked his opinion of England separating and all he could do was talk about himself…. I wish the douche would stay in Scotland and leave us Americans alone!!


mat4 Says:

@J-Kath:

:-)


J-Kath Says:

Mat4 – And the same to you.


J-Kath Says:

Please Pamela:

Don’t you think the UK’s rather busy at the moment. Please Pamela take him back.


chrisford1 Says:

J-Kath

1. The players at Wimbledon are paid in pounds, so they will get a Brexit pay cut of some degree. Though I think the 1 day plunge in markets and pound price was the “Pauline Kael Effect”. None of the Elites in Britain, and therefore in N America or Continental Europe following turn, expected this. None of their friends were for it….So a bit of panic to start with the Elites, their financial houses happened.

2. I wouldn’t dismiss the opinions and support of the buffoonish Trump or the nastiest, least credible, and most corrupt figure in US politics – Hillary Clinton. It is very important that the two of them, Trudeau, and the now-sulking big mouth in the White House all reaffirm that America will continue the special relationship and will not take sides.

3. Brexit is the start of a rebellion against the diktats to Brussels. The Netherlands, France, and Italy are all getting large parts of the populace wanting their own referandums, and last and certainly not least – a large movement is coalescing in Germany and Austria against mass Muslim and African immigration and other stuff shved down throats by the Eurocrats.

BBB may have the simplest and best read. The Common Market was a good idea, but along the way to the present, the Eurocrats lost their way in seeking ever more new powers outside the economic sphere and telling all that disagreed they were backwards, uneducated on the nuances Brussels grasped, and even…..racist and Islamophobic…thus complaints had no credibility.

I agree with BBB. Until they were demanding things like abandonment of the death penalty and industrial worker protections against cheap foreign labor be rolled back. How farmers had to farm. Ordering carbon restrictions and refugee quotas each nation had to obey.
The EU went too far, and the Elites did their sneering best to delegitimize complaints and concerns as invalid – because only the racist and poorly educated would have any issues with Brussels and with the anti-West university elites and Geneva-based NGOs that provided Brussels with much of it’s progressive rationals of ruling.

Maybe this will help smooth over the budding Cold War, which came from sanctions on Russia assisting majority Russians in Crimea doing the Ruxit from the Ukraine, and also supporting Russian majorities in East Ukraine gain self determination from the Ukraine nationalists..


Wog Boy Says:

CF1,
Good analysis.


BBB Says:

I’ve landed on a solution that will please everyone here, I think – Trump to Brussels?


AndyMira Says:

@Margot..sorry things happened the wrong way for you..don’t be sad okay?There’s always a reason why it happened..and don’t forget when there is a rain,it also has a sunshine tomorrow..


J-Kath Says:

Chrisford

I don’t have any major disagreement with your comments. Yes, the EU went too far and yes, there could be unintended but positive outcomes as you indicate re. the budding Cold War for starters.

BBB: Sending Trump to Brussels? He must have heard you, he’s
left Scotland in a hurry.

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