Roger Federer v Milos Raonic, Andy Murray v Tomas Berdych; Wimbledon SF Picks And Pans
by Sean Randall | July 7th, 2016, 6:32 pm
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We are days away from the the final of a Grand Slam, so where’s Novak Djokovic name in draw? Well, he’s not around. And it’s the first Slam without the Serb in the hunt the final weekend in what seems like forever. Or at least since the 2014 Australian Open.

Roger Federer and Andy Murray are still alive, and so too is the familiar faces of Tomas Berdych and Milos Raonic. That leaves three of the guys most of us expected to be in the semifinals, and Raonic? Well, Milos took advantage of the Djokovic upset and confidently made his return to the final four where once against he’ll go up against Mr. Wimbledon himself, Federer, in a rematch of their 2014 meeting.

And it’s Berdych against Murray in the other Top 10er battle. Raonic and Berdych are not the most entertaining of acts, so I don’t think we’ll get the drama of Wednesday, but might we get a surprise, or maybe two? On to my picks.

Roger Federer v Milos Raonic
In the marquee match for most of us, my main is the health of Roger Federer. He’s 34. He just played a tough 5-setter yesterday. He’s not what he used to be, nor is his body. But if he can get to the “big moment”, he can come through. And that’s what happened against Marin Cilic. Down two sets against the Croat, he really did have no business winning. But on those big points in the third and fourth, it was Federer who didn’t flinch. That was ultimately the difference. And here again, a similar match.

Raonic is going to “boom” that serve, “boom” that forehand and hope to get a chance or two on the Federer serve. That’s the gameplan. It’s simple and effect and when he’s got it going awfully tough to break. And I agree that he’s slowly getting better.

“I think from every aspect, I’ve improved,” Raonic said. “I know what I need to do on court better. I know how to sort of turn things around to get them on my terms. I know what I’m looking for. I know how to go about it, to try to get to that position as much as I can. And then when things aren’t going well, I know what things to look for to change.

“From all those kind of things, I’m definitely a lot more aware.”

While Raonic has improved, at his core like I said he’s still a 2-shot player: serve, forehand. And that’s actually good for Federer. Roger shouldn’t have (and probably doesn’t want) to deal with extended points like he occassionaly had to against Cilic. So that should ease the burden on his weary body.

Then again, maybe Raonic backs off and tries to get into lengthy rallies, but I can’t see him doing that. He’s going to put his best against whatever Federer can throw back. And like those matches Roger had with Roddick, he will have to get that return back and convert when it counts.

If healthy, I don’t see this as an issue for Federer – just wait out a breaker or two – but with all his back and knee problems of late, and that five setter Wednesday, Federer is really vulnerable here. But much like Cilic, I think Raonic will let him off the hook, make an untimely error and get tight, and allow Federer to squeek another one out.

This time though, Federer can’t get down early. Cilic may be better all around, but your don’t want to be chasing the Raonic serve.
The Pick: Federer in 4

Andy Murray v Tomas Berdych
I don’t believe Murray is as good as we’ve ever seen him. He’s playing well but he’s allowing his opposition to get their teeth in the match. JW Tsonga did just that yesterday and it nearly cost him. I think Berdych will have his moments but like the Frenchman also come up just short.

Murray’s won 8 of 14 from the Czech including the last four, all pretty easily. And even though Berdych has made the final at Wimbledon before (this is his first SF since then), I don’t think grass is the best surface for him. But nonetheless, any man with his kind of flat, easy power is a threat.

“I know it will be a tough match,” Murray said. “I played well against him the last couple of years. It’s nice that the players I’m playing against say I’m playing more aggressive because everyone’s only said I’ve played aggressive when Ivan has been coaching me. The last few years I have been playing more aggressive tennis, playing with a little bit more variety, for sure.

“That’s worked well against him. When in the past, I hadn’t such good results against him. The last couple years it’s been good.”

For me, the x-factor is Lendl. Lendl turned down the offer to coach Berdych and went back to Murray, and Ivan’s not going to want to look like an idiot here letting his guy lose to someone he said no to. Then again, if Berdych has any actual fire or true want in his belly, then he’s got a shot right here to put one back on Lendl.

The question then is, can the simplistic Berdych figure out a plan to crack Murray and silence his supporters in the crowd?

“I think at the beginning, he was a bit more defensive,” said Berdych of Murray. “Playing a little bit more just waiting what’s the opponent going to do. I think it was working pretty well for myself. I was able to really dictate the game and play aggressive. Now he becomes to be more aggressive, way more creative on the court.

“I’m just going to try to get my plan again and try to work it out.”

And Berdych will try to push Murray around but I don’t think it will be enough. Murray’s a much more agreesive player now, more emotional and he’ll ride the crowd once again. This time, he won’t need as much help from them as before.
The Pick: Murray in 3

While I think it’s long odds for a Berdych upset – the guy just doesn’t win these kind of matches, and on grass he lacks the variety – I definitely could see Federer struggle or even get blown off the court if he’s still not fully recovered.

But let’s hope not. Does anyone really want to watch a Raonic-Berdych final?

ESPN has the coverage starting at 8am.


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402 Comments for Roger Federer v Milos Raonic, Andy Murray v Tomas Berdych; Wimbledon SF Picks And Pans

J-Kath Says:

I think Andy has demonstrated that he is more cerebral than before. He knows how to fuel his determination, even though he is still his own victim to complacency. Complex guy, complex player – but loaded with talent – just one never knows what level he’ll be at. C’mon Andy! This is your win.!


danica Says:

It looks like Roger and Andy will fight for the trophy. Milos will have his say in this and I do hope he performs a miracle just for another change of scenery. On the other side, Tomas is not likely to trouble Andy.

Andy for the win!


andrea Says:

of all the ‘older’ dudes still grinding on tour, i would love tsonga to break thru and win a GS final one day.

he’s a bit like berdych in the mental dept. seems to run into hurdles at clutch stages in the GS’s.

i hate to dump on old berdych, but for those reasons, i can’t see him getting past andy and if he does, well good on him. i’ll eat my words.

between roger and milos? both are ice cold on the court, minimal emotions. i’m fine if either wins although it seems like all the stars are aligning for roger to have another, perhaps final, crack at a GS title.

let’s see….


Humble Rafa Says:

it seems like all the stars are aligning for roger to have another, perhaps final, crack at a GS title.

Oh the dreams..Oh the dreams


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Skeeze, we’re here!

Another semifinal for our man. A handful more records broken, mostly his own: grand slam match wins, grand slam semifinals made, Wimbledon semifinals made, oldest Wimbledon semifinalist in, what, 40 years?

Enjoy tomorrow. I think you’ll agree with me that its been a great t, ournament as a Fed fan win or lose tomorrow. We got a day of magic, and one more Slam’s delay for Fed and the drop from elite competitiveness.

Its going to be exciting tennis tomorrow. Remember when Mardy Fish had his late peak? He had some great matches with Fed. Raonic has a similar attacking style, but with much more power.


FedExpress Says:

fed ice cold on court? i saw something else on wednesday andrea


Dan Martin Says:

I have my predictions up at http://tennisabides.com as well as a poll. I think the seedings are pretty telling in these two matches, but Milos is 3rd in the 2016 race so he has outpaced Roger in 2016 not just in Brisbane. I don’t think Milos is favored by any means, but it seems like this could go either way.


skeezer Says:

TV,
The DVR is set, and Strawberries and Cream is in the Fridge getting ready. Win or lose, as long as they are entertaining matches, how could it go wrong? Its all gravy baby ;).
Another semi final GS fo Fed, the all time record builds and others are left behind to chase.
A great contrast in styles awaits. No ping pong tennis left ….whewwww baby!


skeezer Says:

HR says “Oh the dreams..Oh the dreams”
Aren’t you diving for your fishies with the paparazzi in Mallorca with a wrist brace?
Life is tough with all that you still have time to post about your fav.
;)


chrisford1 Says:

1. Milos is someone that is still improving by large amounts, it seems, every few months. He will be at net a lot, and Roger will have to find a way to up his aces and show peak Fed era passing shots.
2. Berdych is a super tennis player, so is Tsonga. Their curse is they came up in the age of the Big Four. To win, they have to knock off not just one in the QFs or Semis, but one in the final. But one of these days…though both are over 30…it might happen. And the locker room would be delighted for either veteran. Andy is favored.
3. It does seem strange on a big semi without Djokovic around. six straight years coming in, Novak was 23-1 to make the Slam semis. Amazing considering the competitive times he played that streak out in (2009 onwards). His record in making 500s, Masters semis and World champion semis is also superb. He’ll be back.
4. For Andy, this is an opportunity he has to fight his best for. No Rafa, no Djokovic.


jane Says:

skeezer, have you been imbibing alcoholic beverages? ;)

if i had to break down title chances for each of the remaining players i’d say 58% murray, 32 % fed, 8% milos, and 2% tomas.

fed’s still a valiant fighter, but this season he’s not in the kind of form he’s been in the last couple of years, coming off a number injuries (knee, back, and even a flu) that kept him out of competition. and of course cilic nearly beat him. that said, i don’t seem milos or tomas stopping fed or andy from reaching the finals. it just seems like everything is aligning for andy to win his second wimbledon title: lendl’s back; he’s shown great form all season (winning a masters title, queens, reaching 2 [likely 3] slam finals…) etc.

he is due, and i think he’ll win.

but, they both have to get there first.


skeezer Says:

jane,
Your astuteness is spot on. Which includes my condition atm ;)
It’s a Milos Murray final, with Andy pocketing Wimby #2.
But if Fed gets through Milos, I will look for flights to London to witness another monumental historical moment.


jane Says:

well, skeezer, with brexit the pound is certainly lower, there’s that, and i suspect it’ll be fed and andy in the final, so maybe you should have a look sooner than later!


AndyMira Says:

Rog in 3 or 4 at least,he had to..otherwise he has no stamina left to spar with Andy in final..while Andy will do his business with berdych in 3..Hope both can meet in final..i want the CC ‘destroyed’ by their fans howling and screaming..no rafa,no novak..but Rog and Andy will do..and sorry to predict the winner so soon but Andy will lift the trophy this sunday..BUT if Rog win..it’s okay as well..good luck to ALL contestants and their fans..


Margot Says:

jane/skeeze: “normal” priced tickets went months ago. 2 tickets for men’s finals can be purchased, only 8 left at time of posting, for £3,850. A bargain.
Otherwise skeeze should start queueing/camping now.
Last year I had tickets for the 2nd Monday, could have made a huge profit selling them on.


Van Persie Says:

Milos and Andy in 4 sets


Laver Rules Says:

Anybody can loose to anyone on a given day and even-though $2000 haircut has owned Murray in their H2H over the last 3 years, it still doesn’t assure a win for Roger. However, with Andy the match is always on ballerina’s racket, Roger’s fans should be a little more skeptical about the tree-tops and serve-bots like Milos.
As for me, I look forward to the return of Djokovic and the never-ending rally days. Who wants all this graceful, shot-making, variety crap of the Swiss ballerina? just give me that workman like, run from corner to corner and put every ball back tennis with unimaginable out-of-balance stretches and body contortions. Yeah, I want that shirt-tearing with gut wrenching shouts of Djokovic and as bonus throw in that 35 year old poet for him to beat in the 5th set. I want to see hard work trump talent even if talent is old enough to have one leg in the grave. Whoever said life was fair. Djokovic got 18 of his 23 wins over the ballerina when or after the ballerina turned 30. That’s freakin’ 78% of the wins against grandpa! I say if that’s what it takes then turn this poet 50 ASAP and gift him a few more back problems and knee surgeries for Djokovic’s sake. I want Djokovic the GREAT to take it all at any cost.


Michael Says:

I have to go with Sean picks. I feel that despite the five setter, Roger should be okay in the semi finals health wise and Roger always produces his best against big servers as he knows with experience how to handle them to upset their rhythm and flow. Therefore, I would be terribly surprised if Roger loses to Raonic.

Regarding Andy Vs Berdych, I tip Andy to win. But it is not going to be easy as Berdych may place road blocks which would be difficult to clear. Eventually Andy should prevail but not in straight sets. Berdych will in all probability take a set of Andy and if he is lucky even two.


Van Persie Says:

“As for me, I look forward to the return of Djokovic and the never-ending rally days. Who wants all this graceful, shot-making, variety crap of the Swiss ballerina?”

Agree. I respect Roger for his tennis and achievements, but I am not a ballet fan, and never was. When I watch sports, I wanna see athletes.


Van Persie Says:

“Djokovic got 18 of his 23 wins over the ballerina when or after the ballerina turned 30. ” Not correct. Djoko won 9 matches against Fed, before Fed was 30. 23-9= 14 matches after Fed turned 30.

Laver rules, will we also get a H2H resume with Nadal vs Federer? Just asking ;)


Van Persie Says:

Laver Rules inspired me now ;)
Something interesting for Andy fans: Andy won 8 matches for 14, before Roger turned 30 :)


Van Persie Says:

Correction: Andy won 8 matches from 14.


J-Kath Says:

Laver Rules:

So who is it you want to win?


J-Kath Says:

You are right on Brexit, Jane. My hubbie’s death annuity from the US is coming in enhanced this month. However, more importantly, I hope you are also right re. today’s matches…otherwise I’ll be watering my weeds again tea-time UK.


Willow Says:

I Believe Laver Rules was being sarcastic ! ….


Van Persie Says:

Bingo Willow ;)

He’s just a Fed fan who still can’t get over the fact, that Djoker did not allow his idol to get his last GS: Wimby 2014, 205 an UO 2015 :) He is aware, that Fed’s chances are small now, even if he made it in the semis after a breath taking quarter final match.


J-Kath Says:

Willow: So was I…!!!!!


Willow Says:

J-Kath nah yours is just cheeky humour, your too much of a lady, i did lol when i read your post ;-)) ….


Willow Says:

VP I dont think Feds chances are small, i just wonder how much he will have left after the Cilic match, then to face most likely Andy in the final for B2B2B2B possible 5 setters ?, should Berdych beat Andy (hope not, and unlikely i think), hes actually a player who relishes playing Federer, hes certainly not intimidated by him either, and Raonic beat Sam in 4 sets, and had an easier match, so he will probably be fresher for this match, lots of possibilities, we will see ….


Van Persie Says:

Willow,

I am pretty sure, that Andy will get the whole thing, but we’ll see.
Even if Federer will win today, it will not be easy for him. It should be another long match for him. The recovery at this age is not very fast, my opinion.


Van Persie Says:

Furthermore: Andy is very motivated and focused to win. He will not let his chance to get away this time. He will be like Novak at Wimby in 2014.


Tennisfan Says:

@Laver Rules
Obvious troll is obvious


J-Kath Says:

Willow: Many thanks for your “unbiased” opinion, dear friend….


charLesinne Says:

RF it’s now or never… #18 coming your way… make the best of everything… congratz!


jatin Says:

Hey guys, madmax, skeez, fed express, willow and everyone else.
Very nervous for this match.
Also had a dream about fed losing with score 6-4,6-3,6-4 yesterday. I was glad it was not real when i woke up but hope fed could start where he left and comes out all guns blazing.
Go fed go………


jatin Says:

Practice time


Daniel Says:

Game on, Raonic starts serving


jatin Says:

Positive start


Daniel Says:

Raonic couldn’t put a single return in. Just what Fed needs


jatin Says:

Part of john macenro strategy.
Go for body serve.
Slice to his forehand and keep fed guessing.

Source :His commentary :)


Daniel Says:

Raonic smartly using slices, break chance.


Daniel Says:

Fed DF, humm, not good signs. This set can go fast. Raonic seems solid


jatin Says:

So raonic strikes first. So many Unforced by fed


jatin Says:

Body serve, 141 mph and fed made a return winner


jatin Says:

So many body serves by raonic


Daniel Says:

Fed bad luck in the volley touching net and losing speed, could have being BP. 4-1 Raonic


jatin Says:

Fed has to up his game somehow


jatin Says:

Atleast raonic serve is not as unreadable as cilic.


Daniel Says:

The difference of a huge serve, 0-30 to game in a blink


jatin Says:

Milos, those serves.


nits Says:

Power serving by Raonic


jatin Says:

Could he break ?


Daniel Says:

Roanoke serving for first set 5-3


Daniel Says:

30-30


Daniel Says:

What was that return!!!! Maestro


jatin Says:

Atleast he is serving first this set


jatin Says:

Fed just need a break. He is going deep in raonic serve, its just a matter of time before he gets him. Hope it happens soon.


Daniel Says:

Raonic finally winning a set over Fed at a Slam.
Fed minimum 4 sets, another roller coaster we go.

31 min set. if they don’t go to tiebreak this match won’t be too demanding. Fed at least got to deuce in 2 Raonic service games and had a 0-30. His only problem was that DF on BP, he had to at least play the point.


jatin Says:

Agree daniel. It was a gift really.
Raonic is playing damn well though.


jatin Says:

Hold for fed


FedExpress Says:

cant comcentrae on my work


FedExpress Says:

how was the break a gift. can anyq explain


jatin Says:

Raonic’s ground game has improved a lot, especially his backhand.


jatin Says:

Well fed express, he made 3 unforced errors in a row and then double fault to seal the deal.


jatin Says:

Fed has to hold


jatin Says:

Huge comon by fed…


Daniel Says:

Raonis is returning all Fed’s serve, not likeing that. They are playing pretty fast, 9 gMes second set in 23 min.

Also Raonic made 4 DF in 9 service games, hope he does one in tiebreak of ot goes that far.

Federer under more pressure as the chance of Raonoc breaking him is higher than contrary. He will have to hold and wait an opening


Sisay Says:

This set goes to the tb


jatin Says:

3 break chances.. COmon fed


Daniel Says:

See, 1 DF every two games, 10th time he is serving 5th DF. Triple set point Federer to start serving first third set.


jatin Says:

2 more.. Comon


Daniel Says:

Raonic painting the line with a beautiful onsode out FH


jatin Says:

1 more… raonic playing amazing


jatin Says:

He saves them all


jatin Says:

Another chance.. Stroke of brilliance


jatin Says:

Mishit.. Saved


Daniel Says:

Damm, 2 Fed made silly mistakes, all second serves.


jatin Says:

That miss hit could cost him this set now :(


Daniel Says:

Now hold Federer and at least breaker.


Sisay Says:

Wow what did just happen…milos was 40..0 down and he saved it all…good


jatin Says:

Wicked slice by milos. 30-30


Daniel Says:

Raonic loves to go DTL in both wings. He only goes inside out when running away BH to hit Fh.


Daniel Says:

Well, at least tiebreak which Fed will have to win.


jatin Says:

Tie break


Sisay Says:

Are u sure Daniel?


Daniel Says:

1 DF Raonic. Now is possible


Daniel Says:

No Sisay


jatin Says:

Comon fed


Daniel Says:

Raonic doesn’t miss a single FH Unforced today.


Sisay Says:

Comeon milos


Daniel Says:

Finally!!!! DF, his sixth today.


Daniel Says:

3 set points, hope he gest one in Rainic serve to not get the pressure to have the last on hos serve.


squirrel Says:

yay go Fed! one more point to get the set!


squirrel Says:

yay Set 2 to Fed!


jatin Says:

The only thing which has separated the outcome of both sets are well Double faults :)


Sisay Says:

1..1 now milos will explode and 6..2 for fed next set


Daniel Says:

Yes, perfect.

Thos tiebreak os huge because Federer already showed to Raonic that if they go to another tiebreak he can win. Also, after Fed was broken in that 1-2 game he hasn’t face a single BP, while he had that 0-40 on Raonic serve.

Still, 2 sets and Fed hasn’t brokem Raonic, he will need one, just to know that of the match goes to a fifth he can break.

Raonic serving first third set, early break would be ideal for Fed.


Humble Rafa Says:

Lucky cat..another treat (small one though).


Markus Says:

The Greatest!


Humble Rafa Says:

The Angry man providing “neutral” commentary on Mr. Canadia. Does he think he is from Switzerland?


jatin Says:

Fed should hold as much as he could.


Daniel Says:

This set is crucial for Fed. He can’t afford another five der before finals (more so due to the mental aspect).


madmax Says:

Jatin, and the rest of the gang…I am here…just having kittens and plenty of tea to calm me down.

I think one Epic match is enough this wimby tournament. Still recovering from Cilic on Wednesday. Heart beating faster than normal.

Come on Fed! Keep it real!


Daniel Says:

40-15 to deuce. Luckly Raonic made a siy mistake.

Oddily there is not many aces this match, by both.


Daniel Says:

2 tense holda so far by Fed, and it will get tigther the longer the set goes.


madmax Says:

HR,

If you really cannot be nice about any single player on this forum. Do you think you would do better by going to live in Spain?


jatin Says:

Yeah, madmax. Atleast I am somewhat relived with the way fed is holding ( even if it gets tight sometimes). There was no easy moment in that cilic match whatsoever though.


Markus Says:

Mental aspect for the finals? Federer does not need it against either Murray or Berdych.


Markus Says:

The second set was clearly Federer’s. Raonic’s serve has not been so deadly against Federer. This bolsters The Greatest’s chance of winning this match.


J-Kath Says:

Famous last words.


Daniel Says:

Double BP, come on Fed.


jatin Says:

master stroke by fed… 2 break points.. comon


jatin Says:

Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn


Sisay Says:

At last fed breaks


Daniel Says:

Finally he was able to hit FH heavy on BP, 4-3 to serve.

2 more holds and set in the bag.


Markus Says:

It’s over now. The Greatest!


jatin Says:

The only thing fed has to do now is to concentrate on his serve for just 3 games to win this set.. Go maestro


jatin Says:

Sorry only 2 games


kjb Says:

Chum Jetzt!


jatin Says:

Fed is moving so well right now


Daniel Says:

Love game.

Raonic lost focus, misosng shots he wasn’t missing.


Sisay Says:

I dont think milos will come back…that is the problem that this wee wee players have…keep going down once they are down.


Willow Says:

Find it sad, not to mention a bit pathetic, when crowds cheer an error ! ….


Sisay Says:

And in no time it is 5..3


FedExpress Says:

its so more nerve wrecking when u cant watch


jatin Says:

This is our maestro… So quick…. Just 1 set away….. :)


Willow Says:

Federer in 4, doubt Raonic has the stamina for a 5 setter ….


jatin Says:

Fed express
You are so right. Atleast while watching you could see what’s going on but following scores is nervy most of the time. But don’t worry he will be through.


Daniel Says:

Markus,

Just for him to not expend too much of he needed to go to a fifth set with Raonic and the pressure of the serve.

The thing os Fed is playng well but he hasn’t deliber one of thise spetacular matches yet nof course the comeback was awesome but maybe he will save the best for last, in finals. Hope so!

This match was what he needed but agaisnt either Murray or Berdych there will be way more rallies.

Bit he sure does looks better and better, apart from today’s DF on BP which cost him first set.
hasn’t faced a single BP since than, 13 straight holds. If he can maintain that will be great.


FedExpress Says:

i am done


Markus Says:

Willow, I do cheer for errors and even give high-fives with myself.


Willow Says:

Markus lol each to their own, i prefer to cheer positive play rather than negative, i think sometimes these crowds can get a bit obsessive with their fan worship ….


Markus Says:

Daniel, what I am hoping for if Federer makes it to the finals, is not necessarily for him to play his best but for his opponent to play his worst.


jatin Says:

Raonic’s serve is like Bang bang double fault bang….. Still less intimidating than Cilic’s boom serve even though it is faster.


Markus Says:

Willow, before you even say it, yes, I am mean. Hehehe!


Willow Says:

Markus you tell it like it is, at least you dont skirt around talking BS, i completely agree too, i want my favorite(s) to win, and if it means their opponent plays crap then so be it ….


jatin Says:

Comon fed…2 break points..


squirrel Says:

2 BP wasted..he can’t do this against Murray though..


jatin Says:

Milos holds….


Daniel Says:

Damm, thought Fed would break and close this match. Still tense, he has ti keep holding like he is but the sooner he breaks the better, any laspe end of the set can cost gim fourth and force a fifth.


FedExpress Says:

my scorer says 2 bps came and gone. how?


squirrel Says:

Fed committed two UEs..


squirrel Says:

But at least he’s more and more confident in holding his serve!


squirrel Says:

Ops, spoken too soon..


Daniel Says:

Agree there Markus, I this point I don’t want a dazzle match anymore, as long as he wins.

Ifirst things first and get to final #28, 11th in Wimbledon. Than we worry about who he will face there.


squirrel Says:

Good hold by Fed..3-3


Daniel Says:

3-3, 3 more holds to force a tiebreak. Hope he gets a break.

C’mon Raonic, DF and silly mistakes.


jatin Says:

Fed express, milos played 2 amazing points :)


Daniel Says:

30-30. give me a DF raonic.


jatin Says:

Big second serve my milos…


jatin Says:

Daniel, seems like raonic is listening you


jatin Says:

Fed could very well get tight in these circumstances as well. He is already serving behind, so one mistake could cost him.

Hold fed


Daniel Says:

Fed is getting close but can’t get it done. 2 serve games Raonic was behind, now hold easy to add extra pressure in Raonic, hope he cracks at the end or play another horrivle tiebreak.


FedExpress Says:

i have no interest whatsoever for a 5th set


Daniel Says:

Me neither


jatin Says:

You bet on it


jatin Says:

chip and charge


Daniel Says:

Another 15-30, third in a row


Daniel Says:

This is it, BP at 4-4. C’mon


jatin Says:

He saved another one


squirrel Says:

Damn it Fed…so hard to break! lol


squirrel Says:

I don’t know why but I really hate Raonic’s expression and all..he’s so annoying to me! lol


jatin Says:

Milos is fighting.
Hope fed holds


Daniel Says:

Damm Raonic, the old one would habe cracked already, this new version is tighter. A bit worried.

2 more holds by Fed to force tiebreak, hehas to do his part now.


jatin Says:

Fed’s game :)


FedExpress Says:

to lose serve now and the manner to lose this set would be so devastating


squirrel Says:

Shoot, Fed down 15-30, smelling fifth set now..


squirrel Says:

Yes, Fed 40-30!


RZ Says:

2 challenges in 10 minutes. Who is the man on court impersonating Federer?


jatin Says:

Tight game, good hold


squirrel Says:

Fed holds!


squirrel Says:

Backhand down the line for 30-0!!! Majestic Fed!!


squirrel Says:

Still no break..


jatin Says:

Such amazing game by raonic

Hold fed, comon


Daniel Says:

0-30 game.
Raonic is srviving this whole set and I am afraid he may steal ot and force a fifth. Fed has to be super sharp from now on.
He will habe to do it in tiebreak after holding next game. The good is he is winning points on Raonic serve.


FedExpress Says:

i am at home now


FedExpress Says:

from 40-0 to 40-30


FedExpress Says:

deuce 2nd DF

wtf


squirrel Says:

2 DF??? what the hell!


FedExpress Says:

SP raonic

wtf is happening


squirrel Says:

wtf indeed..


FedExpress Says:

another SP

i cant breath


FedExpress Says:

fed is DFing at the wrong moments this match


Daniel Says:

See, 40-0 to deuce after 2 df. He is feeimg missed chances.

Set point Raonic and serve first fifth. Why force thiose second serves Federer, why?!


Daniel Says:

WTF is this Raonics return winners?!


FedExpress Says:

another SP
this comical stuff from fed


Daniel Says:

If Fed loses this ser like this he lspes the match.


FedExpress Says:

no

i am not gonna watch this shiit anymore


jatin Says:

How can you do that fed.. in such crucial moment :(


Willow Says:

LOL So glad i have nothing emotionally invested in this match, i would be having kittens by now, tough being a fan ….


FedExpress Says:

and he is serving 2nd again


Daniel Says:

He tried to wrong foot Raonic with Cross coirr totally open. What a bozarre game. Jesus he was 40-0 up. How the hell this happened.

Now Fed will serve behind fifth set and he probably is not believing he wasn’t able to go to a tiebreak.


FedExpress Says:

fed has the trainer on

he is done i think for this match


jatin Says:

fed is injured :( :(


Willow Says:

Sorry folks but as a neutral observer this is fun ….


FedExpress Says:

why is fed laughing?


FedExpress Says:

so 2 Breaks gifted from nowhere


Daniel Says:

Tis is the thing, if he loses this match with that 5-6 collapse it will basically erase all memories of the awesome Cilic match. He could lose with Rainic serving great and all, but not like this, at least if he went to tiebreak and lost tiebreak, but after 40-0 up and underestimating the score and forcing second serves for 2 straight double faults. Bizarre


Daniel Says:

Only way is if Fed manages a bp and Raonic makes one of those DF.

With this set potentially going the distance if Fed doesn’t break until first 4 games, its bye.


FedExpress Says:

at least hold. u are ensured to serve first in a possible 5th

this is gone from feds hands. he needs inspiration and that qucikly


Daniel Says:

Let’s see how Fed will serve next game 0-1


Margot Says:

Wow! Milos woke up suddenly and into a 5th we go.


FedExpress Says:

margot, fed went to sleep more than milos woke up tbh


Daniel Says:

Raonic has to feel it as well, he played 5, 4 and now 5 sets again, it has to weight at some point.


FedExpress Says:

those BPs missed


jatin Says:

All fed needs is 4 double faults in a row from raonic now….. :(


FedExpress Says:

2-1 raonic

every break will be game over

raonics serve seems untouchable


RZ Says:

There is nothing more frustrating in tennis than losing a game after holding a 40-0 lead. Federer is probably still kicking himself that they didn’t go into a 4th set tiebreak.


jatin Says:

Can it happen guys…. Is there a way… :(


FedExpress Says:

feds grass cour season doesnt go beyond the semi finals stages this year and he could have reached all the finals


jatin Says:

Go fed go


Daniel Says:

2 games already and Raonic is not facing pressure as he was from 2-2 fourth set when he saved a bunch of BP’s and deuce games.

Fed would have to find an inner gear, he just break Raonic once the entire match, Raonic will just have to fold at some point for Fed to have a chance and if he find one of those crazy return winner as he did 6-5 (which is his credit) could be c’est fini for Fed


FedExpress Says:

raonic is seeing the ball big


Daniel Says:

See, Raonic will just gofer broke on Fed’s second serves from now on


Margot Says:

@FedE
2 dubs in one game is pretty extraordinary for Fed.


FedExpress Says:

30-30

feds first serve is gone atm


Daniel Says:

30-30, first moment of truth for him.


FedExpress Says:

boah deuce. routine FH missed
danger already


Daniel Says:

Fed is stiff, he is still feeling that game effect


FedExpress Says:

fed down

BP


jatin Says:

NOOOOOOOOOO


Daniel Says:

Visual of that 40-0 game, Fed down.;-)

BP, virtually MP


FedExpress Says:

fed wants the trainer


jatin Says:

Kneee


FedExpress Says:

if raonic takes the BP i go. cant take it


Daniel Says:

Bad fall and seems he had a twist. Match over, unless Raonic miss return. He smells blood now.


Daniel Says:

This can be more dramatic than the Cilic one.


jatin Says:

Comnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn


Daniel Says:

Fed did nothing with a mid court FH.


FedExpress Says:

this game. i will die again


jatin Says:

Fight fed fight…


FedExpress Says:

DF

shitttt


Daniel Says:

DF< just like the fourth set was gone.


FedExpress Says:

i go

i cant take this anymore


jatin Says:

Its OVER


Daniel Says:

Damm Raonic.
Why Fed is trying to wrong foot him all the time, Raonic doesn’t have a on the run FH to be afraid of ad Fed not going to open court twice.


Daniel Says:

3 more of those Raonic.


Van orten Says:

Fed runnin Out of luck. Just Bad luck guys . This is Tennis


squirrel Says:

It’s over guys..sobsob


Markus Says:

Federer is paying for my sins. Forgive me world and let me burn in hell instead.


squirrel Says:

Same here Markus… :(


Daniel Says:

I didn’t felt this gutted in a Fed match since the Nadal years,not even the USO 2011 MP Djoko return, nor the latest finals against Djoko, Djoko was just the better player. Here is kind of a chocking of epic proportions. A played of his stature in a Grand Slam semis can not lose on grass 40-0 with his serve. He had to play that tiebreak. This is as painful as having MP on serve.


Daniel Says:

Markus, priceless kkkkkk


Daniel Says:

Raonic zoning now.


madmax Says:

I cant see clearly right now from my phone. All i can do is read the comments so lets stay positive please.Federer the fighter for sure. Incredible athlete.Gutsy. Has to give it his all at risk of losing final. Come on Fed! DYING ONCE MORE IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.


Daniel Says:

And Fed will keep his record of not backing up a 5 set win with a victory next round, bizarre.


jatin Says:

Proud of you fed for your fight and everything you have given us fans.

Go andy, take you title now


squirrel Says:

Yeah painful to watch. This is the lapses that people are talking about for advanced-age players..inevitable..so sad :(


Daniel Says:

No madmax, there is no way to stay positive, you didn’t see what happen. One of the worst things could happen to a tennis player.

Roanoke doesn’t miss anything anymore, totally in control.


BBB Says:

I’m not gonna lie, I didn’t think Milos had the chops to hang in.


jatin Says:

Cried the whole night when fed lost the wimby final, i won’t this time.


squirrel Says:

What’s killing us fans is that this could have been such a great chance to win no 18.. Can’t see another golden chance like this coming again..


Daniel Says:

Somehow he hols, 4-2, 2 more chances to break.

Now Raonic is your time to choke, please!


jatin Says:

madmax
Its over mate.. Raonic is playing lights out.


madmax Says:

Dont give up guys until the very very end. Its not fair to react in such a negative way.

Its a gutting feeling. But. Keep the enduring support. Always. An incredible last match with Cilic will have some effect. Federer the fighter for sure.


Daniel Says:

Only chance is hold next game and Raonic some how choke serving 5-3.


BBB Says:

madmax – I agree. It’s not over until it’s over.


Daniel Says:

I take Federer the winner over Federer the fighter anyday. Prefer a USO lost like Cilic 2014 than this.


madmax Says:

I keep believing. I always will.


jatin Says:

The only thing which could happen now is 4 unforced errors or double faults in a row if fed holds.


Daniel Says:

5-2, now hold with authority and wait for Raonic’s arm to weight and he brings those DF back. He didn’t made one this game.

It’s his first Slam final, Wimbledon nonetheless and he may feel it. But Fed has to do his part. win 40-15 most, preferable 40-0


jatin Says:

madmax
BEL18VE :(


madmax Says:

Fighttttttttttttt


Daniel Says:

Me too, only ends with last point.


RZ Says:

I think Fed’s leg (whether the thigh that the trainer was working on during the set changeover) or the knee from the fall must be bothering him. He’s really slowed his movement.

Raonic is playing great – doing a good job of moving a slowed Federer around – and staying very composed.


Daniel Says:

So far he lissened, 40-0 quick


jatin Says:

So milos is serving for the match


Daniel Says:

Moment of truth to Raonic, 5-3 and match on his serve. C’mob crowd, a lot of noise


madmax Says:

Believe. Fight until the end.The greatest ever.


Markus Says:

After this match, I have to punish myself and drown away my sorrows by drinking cheap bad wine.


jatin Says:

15-0


madmax Says:

Wow guys. WOW.


madmax Says:

Stay cool Fed fans. You are not good company right now.


jatin Says:

Good bye guys, see ya.


jatin Says:

Well played fed. Andy please take this title now


squirrel Says:

Sad!! :(((
Fed so deserved to win the 4th set! Weird weird weird!


madmax Says:

Come on!!♥♥♥♥♥


Daniel Says:

Wow, the way Roanic closed this game I am starting to believe he has a real shot at the title.

Murray didn’t impressed last round and if he loses sets to Berdy today Raonic can definitely win Wimby as many us thought he could someday.

As for Fed, only comfort is if he can keep improving his recover and have another break at USO, meaning somebody taking Novak out (hard to see it again, this upset are one off).

But he will regret this 2 Double faults forever. Make him play. It’s the way he lost that lead that is killing.

Guess my predictions will come through and Murray favorite to win his second Wimby.


jatin Says:

madmax, markus, skeezer, fed express, daniel and everyone else, hope never dies guys. BEL18VE will happen in USO. Stay positive.


RZ Says:

Congrats to Raonic. He played really, really well, and has worked very hard on making improvements to his game, and took advantage of the opportunity given to him. Also congrats to Fed for making it to the semis. After his lack of match play earlier this year, this is still an excellent result.

On a semi-related note, Carlos Moya is still really good looking.


Daniel Says:

jatin, yeah. Maybe this was too soon and he needs more matches to get back to his sharpest. Last year his form was way better than this year, he got a lucky draw and some help from Cilic last match. not meant to be.


Van orten Says:

Just unlucky. Sad for fed . He was on fire in the fourth set. He played incredible points but he couldn’t k.o. raonic .
Then what followed was beyond comprehension.
It’s one of those bizarre twists and turns that didn’t go feds way this time


madmax Says:

Okay…so he wins the Epic quarter finals and you turn your back on him in the semis?..a fantastic 5th setter?
Shameful guys. Shameful.


FedExpress Says:

jatin i want to believe

but this was his best chance to win the 18th GS. he was condident

and the manner in which he lost is hard to accept

2-1 set lead. 40-0 to be in the breaker and assured to serve first in the fifth

after the five setter vs cilic this a real downer and will be hard to overcome.

better player lost.


jatin Says:

Don’t want to sound like an ungracious fed fan.. My bad dream last night becomes the reality, I jinxed federer :(
Congrts milos for your amazing win


Willow Says:

Jatin sorry for your guy, but what an amazing match, i really have no idea how Milos pulled that off to be honest, i know how dissapointed you must feel, but Federer is still the greatest, and nothing changes that, so happy your getting behind our Andy though now, CHEER UP JATIN, believe me us Rafa fans know how you feel ….


FedExpress Says:

all the grass court losses he had this season were painful. but this tops it.

so super sunday turns into i dont know what


jatin Says:

fedExpress
Atleast this loss will not hurt as bad as the last year’s final one. He was in the brink of losing the last match, so it was a kind of bonus for us. But yeah, the way he lost will hurt a lot.


Willow Says:

Sorry to all the Federer fans on the forum, but what an awesome player Federer is, an continues to be ….


J-Kath Says:

Very well done, Milos. You earned it.

Sorry for Fed’s fans (except for one who insulted Andy and Tomas)


Markus Says:

jatin, please, don’t sleep anymore on any night before a Federer match.


jatin Says:

Thanks willow for the comment. Hope andy wins this now


Willow Says:

Right on J-Kath ….


Van Persie Says:

Congrats Milos! Commies to Fed fans, perhaps next year he will do it. Am waiting now for something funny from Tennis Lover :)


Markus Says:

I don’t need anybody to feel sorry for me. I’m sorry plenty enough already.


RZ Says:

@Markus – time to clean up your act. Stop sinning so much! It’s unfair to Fed. :-)


madmax Says:

Congrats to Milos. The only recompense is that Milos wins Wimbledon. That would be the only satisfaction for me anyway.


Willow Says:

And congrats to Milos on his first GS final, hopefully it will be a repeat of the Queens club final ….


Purcell Says:

Really concerned about how the fall will affect Roger. Never seen him flat out before. He’s always had the best balance of any player but that’s deteriorated of late. Full steam ahead for Sir Andrew of Murray now as I doubt flakyThomas will make much impression.


RZ Says:

@Willow – with the same result as the Queens club final!


Willow Says:

RZ Absolutely ;-)) ….


jane Says:

incredible composure from milos at the end there – wow! lovely and proud day for canadian tennis, and his win also it goes to show that hard work and dedication do pay off. good job “another game for” milos!!

commies to fed fans. (i do wonder how long he’ll keep playing sometimes. it’s been a difficult year. )


Anto Says:

I just want a five setter for the final. Even though its ok who ever wins, I hope Milos wins this. He is my second favourite after Nadal.


Markus Says:

One more insult before I go and expiate for my sins. Berdych has BigFourophobia. Andy, who himself has Bigtriophobia, will win their match because of that one less phobia advantage. Now, it’s time for me to drink that bottle of oxidized wine.


jane Says:

van persie, i suspect that now milos is a demon, or a demon seed? ;)


Van Persie Says:

Jane,

Agree with you. Milos deserved this win. Well done.
There was a point at the beginning of the 5 set, where he proved, he has now very good skills at the net. It was for me the point of the match. Hopefully I will find ghis on Youtube next days.


Sisay Says:

Congratulations for milos fans…he is into his first gs final…and really sorry to call him a wee wee player…he made me eat my words

And to Sean i beg you not to jinx him in your final anlysis…like you jinxed andy at fo and now nole in this tornament…please….


Van Persie Says:

Jane, expect something like that :). For your post from 12:03


RZ Says:

Good news Margot, J-Kath, Jalep and Willow- as I was going to switch off my ESPN feed because Andy’s match was starting, the feed froze up so I wouldn’t have been able to watch it anyway. That is a good omen for Andy!


Rhd Says:

So glad the novak haters are devastated. Fed fell on grass!

Bizarre? Not really.
The better man won☀️. Fed was supposedly the old plus luckless guy. Only Fed fanatics bragged about Djoker’s loss.
They were sure that fed’d beat him or win Wimbledon and that Milos’s worse than fed’s pigeons.
Milos is a mediocre mover with a strong serve, but that’s better than Fed’s opponents in 2003-5.
They dodged Novak for obvious reasons.
As usual, Fed met a real smart player again in the last 10 years.
Fed needed extreme luck
to get by Roddick, Djoker and Benneteau.
Difference was Legend Djoko and Benneteau were great but in bad physical and mental shape in 2012 and gave Fed a free ride. Fed gets in a little bad shape and immediately loses his serve but his fans believed he’d take the trophy…
Wimbly SF record was 10-0 for Fed before 2016. There was nothing flukey about Milos.


RZ Says:

BTW, in terms of the men’s bracket, if Raonic or Berdych wins the final, Kimberly wins the bracket. If Murray wins the final, Daniel wins the bracket.

No offense Kimberly but I am hoping Daniel wins the bracket challenge!


MMT Says:

Here’s why Andy Murray is going to win Wimbledon:

Returns in Play 77%
1st Serve Return Won 35%
2nd Serve Return Won 65%
Return Games Won 36%

He leads all 4 semi-finalist…in all 4 categories. He has also increased his 2nd serve average speed by 10mph this year. The combination of the two are impenetrable.

https://tennis-column.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-key-to-wimbledon-newsflash-its-not.html


Giles Says:

Fed threw the match away IMO


Markus Says:

Rhd, what are you blabbering about? Go study and know your math. Learn how to subtract and/or add. For your howework, solve these simple math problems:
1. 17-12= ?
2. 6th round – 3rd round = ? rounds better


MMT Says:

Federer:

Returns in Play 71%
1st Serve Return Won 34%
2nd Serve Return Won 48%
Return Games Won 24%

Berdych

Returns in Play 66%
1st Serve Return Won 31%
2nd Serve Return Won 58%
Return Games Won 29%

Raonic

Returns in Play 64%
1st Serve Return Won 25%
2nd Serve Return Won 52%
Return Games Won 19%


Giles Says:

Rhd. So fed fell on grass and you are overjoyed?
Btw so glad joker bumped out of Wimbledon.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

That was an amazing amazing match.

I was really pulling for Fed, but if he had to lose, I’m glad it was Milos. He really earned this. Fed played great, Milos played great in incredible pressure moments.

A few rallies in the 5th set were some of the most exciting points of the tourney, and Milos was the one standing at the end.

I’m sorry for Fed. I hope Milos can usher in a new era of challenging at the very top. His play is FAR from boring.


skeezer Says:

Was impressed with Roanics resolve and movement. Much improved!! He truly has become a great grass court player, all the tools for it. Congrats to him
Fed played well also, but lost a cortical moment being up 40-0 late in the 4th to stay in it on a way to a TB. Out of gas? Sr. Moment? Whatever, shoulda woulda coulda.


madmax Says:

Willow..abdolutely. federer did his very best. Congrats to Milos and J Mac for their first joint wimbledon final.


J-Kath Says:

Yes, Jane. Good news for Canada. He did well.
The way Andy and Tomas are playing right now, it will be a dream final for Milos. Can’t bear that Andrew Castle….got the sound mute.


madmax Says:

fedexpress it is NOT his last chance. NOT AT ALL. Come on.Chin up!


FedExpress Says:

some1 said on twitter fed was heart broken at the presser.

i feel we will see him next year for the last time at wimbledon. but dont see him winning a major from now on. he slip down the rankers a bit and it will get tougher.

have to relish the good memories he gave but tough atm. that break from 40-0 up its killing me


J-Kath Says:

RZ: Need all the good news to keep on flowing.
Keep the positive up for me Willow.


RZ Says:

@J-Kath – more good news…Heather Watson is in the mixed doubles semis!


BBB Says:

Please – I am a Djokovic fan, but it is obnoxious to bring him into this match. Some Fed fans are obnoxious and I understand the desire to rub their nose in it, but there are also nice Fed fans here who are disappointed. Just let them be. If you want to applaud Milos, then do that.


Margot Says:

Well played Milos. He has arrived. Sad about Fed but what on earth was that 4th set about?
Meanwhile Andy looking rather good, just hit a fabulous passing shot from crouching position. But Big Berd hitting very powerfully and cleanly too.
Yes Kath, Andrew Awful Castle. OMG STFU please. His voice makes my skin crawl.
@MMT
Very interesting %. Ta for posting.


Willow Says:

J-Kath you should read MMTs blog, hes a very clever and knowledgeable man, right on the money, and i might say damn funny too ;-)) ….


Willow Says:

J-Kath i just want Murray to get through this match as easily as possible, so hes fresh for the final ….


Willow Says:

And now Mrs Berdych looks to be nearly having kittens ….


Daniel Says:

The 2 best grass players this season will be in finals and Murray will win Wimbledon. My hunch pre bracket was right. I just thought that with his improvement on clay once he reached grass he will play his true best. If he beats Verdy in starights, already 1-0 he will put too many retunr back in play enought o break Raonic, plus he has nore athleticism than Fed to defend better.

This is Murray time to finally get back to winning circle and the co-shaer of Slam with Djoko many of us were predicotng since last year.

If he indeed wins ge can go on to the 5+ Slam circle as he deserves to be there.


Daniel Says:

Murray breaks second set, this could be a great three set win for him.


jalep Says:

Yay, Andy! break in the 2nd.


jalep Says:

Love Andy’s attitude this Wimbledon…
Woot! 63 63


Willow Says:

Jalep lol double Woot, i have to work Sunday afternoon DAMN IT, but im sure the old dears will have it on ….


Margot Says:

Bewitched, bothered and bewildered Berd.


jalep Says:

Thanks RZ …😄 it’s working.


RZ Says:

Just saw this on Twitter and thought it was pretty funny:

Anusha R @anushasez
It hardly seems fair that Canada has both Justin Trudeau and a Wimbledon finalist. ;)


MMT Says:

Thanks J-Kath…and Willow (again)! I’m up to 77,000 views since the beginning, so keep coming back!

By the way, I saw Federer’s press conference, and he did indicate that he sustained an injury following his fall in the 5th set, but that it may not have made a difference given the way Raonic was serving. He didn’t seem heartbroken to me, but I don’t know him personally, so it’s hard to tell.


J-Kath Says:

Taa much RZ, Margot, Willow:

Settled myself down. Between us, Andy is almost too much a character for me.


Margot Says:

I had a look too MMT. Was looking for those %s.


MMT Says:

Margot: You had a look at the blog? The return percentages are not on it. I may post an addendum with some of those stats, but I got them from the WATCH ESPN broadcast of the second semi-final.


Margot Says:

OK MMT :)
Will check ESPN.


MMT Says:

Oh, sorry, Margot – I misunderstood Willow’s post – thank you as well!


jalep Says:

I had a look at MMT’s blog. But I do check him out every now and then. Dan Martin too and Moo’s blog – because of the WTA focus.


Daniel Says:

Triple 6-3 coming.

Final, Murray in 4.
Race for #1 on after this Wimbledon. And Murray shoudl never let Lendl out ever again, just for the lucky amulet effect


Margot Says:

@MMT
I don’t always agree with you, but I always find what you write most interesting and stimulating.
Meanwhile Hewitt is proving to be an excellent commentator, like Roddick last year. Really don’t know why BBC didn’t re-employ him either.
I can’t begin to tell you guys how truly awful Castle. Bleeeeeuh!
And….a fab, fab lob from Andy who leads 4-1 in 3rd.


Willow Says:

Jalep i read Dan Martin as he posts the link here, ive never looked at Moos, and i read Mats only once, and im afraid that was enough for me urgh ….


skeezer Says:

Looks like it will be another Lendl/Jmac rival battle lol…
Jmac would love to beat Lendl again, as well as Lendl would love to beat Jmac again. Let the battle commence via their players.
One thing is for sure, if you played doubs, the Jmac/Roanic team would win in straights…


Daniel Says:

Where is CDP?
Guess he’ll be only posting after Sundays celebration time!😜


jalep Says:

I feel a bit sorry for Berdych.


jalep Says:

Willow, I don’t recommend changing your WTA picks after reading Moo’s!! (s)he talked me into several bad swaps. :D


Willow Says:

Jalep ;-)) ….


FedExpress Says:

just sux atm.


jalep Says:

Andy ☝☝


Willow Says:

Jalep LOL YAY Andy ;-)) ….


Margot Says:

Andy you beauty!


skeezer Says:

Congrats to Andy and his fans, Wimbledon final!


RZ Says:

Yay Andy! One more to go…


jane Says:

last 2 years: borg vs edberg finals
this year: lendl vs mac match up
supercoaches rule at wimbledon!

congrats to andy – and fans! :)
commies to berd’s fans. he didn’t know what to do today, at all.


FedExpress Says:

jane, u mean Becker i think


jalep Says:

RZ, will you be watching on Sunday??


Margot Says:

jalep: she wouldn’t dare…..would she…..;)


jane Says:

MMT, wimbledon says milos won 30% avg for the match (receiving). wondering where you got those stats? each of the sets he won, he was around 30% or more, and then in the two he lost he won only 20% or so. but it doesn’t differentiate on first/second returns at wimbledon’s site.


jalep Says:

just checking, Margot 😯


jane Says:

oops duh, thanks fed ex!


Daniel Says:

Third Wimbledon final, soon to be 2-1 and third Slam, separaring himself from the double Slam pack. It would be sweat after 3 years wihot a title.


Giles Says:

Isn’t it great having a GS final without having to contend with the faker and his antics?
👍😜👏🏿😉😊😆😬😆


chrisford1 Says:

MArkus ” For your howework, solve these simple math problems:
1. 17-12= ?
2. 6th round – 3rd round = ? rounds better.”

17-12 equals 5 wins in a weak era adding a resume. 17-14 equals 3 wins from a weak era before Fed faced real competition. Both Rafa and Nole dominated Fed once they came into full form. Fed never beat Rafa in a Slam after 2007.

Extra math question. What is 17? It is what is known as a constant. An unchanging number since post Wimbledon 2012. Never to change again.


FedExpress Says:

this was cilic fed match in reversal. fed missed virtual match points. life goes on. but tough one to take when you that he made so many silly mistakes at the wrong moments.


RZ Says:

@Jalep – now that Margot isn’t going to be hiding in a yurt, she would come and hunt me down if I watched on Sunday.


Margot Says:

^ Tally Ho!


jalep Says:

RZ, it’s okay to follow the score though or is it not?


Daniel Says:

Whatkled me was the FH he should gomcross court and went dtl trying to erong fot Rainic, everytime he moved Raonic in the court he won the point. Raonic is not an anticipator as Murray and Djoko. The 2 games he was broken, 5-6 fourth set and 1-2 fifth set he made the same silly mistakes, plus double faults in both games.


RZ Says:

Of course – you can’t keep me that far away from the match. Listening to Wimbledon Radio has been working out just fine for our guy.


FedExpress Says:

yeah, but its so annyoing

he hit some brave 2nd serves on BPs vs cilic and no DF. and here all the DF he made cost him dearly.


FedExpress Says:

its in the past now. all great miss their chances. nole did it for example in 2011 at the french where couldnt serve out the 4th and was punished. just like he did vs querrey. nadal hat game point to lead 4-1 in the 2012 AO final. all humas after all.


Markus Says:

CF1 : Just proved my point as to how dumb you are. Those are math questions, niot essay. Come back to me when you learn how to add. In the meantime, write an essay as to how Djokovic, at the prime of hus career, lost so early to somebody ranked so low.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Jane, Canada’s tennis future is very bright. Not only Milos, but Eugenie getting back on track, Pospisil in doubles, and multiple seeded juniors. We have a junior boy finalist at French, and have a different one in the finals this weekend.


FedExpress Says:

but this loss doesnt hurt cause he lost by making silly mistakes (reminded me of his gulbis match in 2014 and a stupid smash on SP in the 2nd).

he came so close in the last few years to win the 18th GS.
2014 wimbledon
2014 us open
2015 wimbledon
2015 us open
2016 wimbledon

this hurts the most. and mentally is has to be quite tough. had he won at least one of them he could have the belief for more. but he chasing a trophy that he cant catch.

but one thing is for sure. if he wins another GS it would make it a hell lot sweeter emotionally after going through these moments.


Willow Says:

Chris Ford 1 same old chestnut ….


jane Says:

tennis vagabond, canada rocks! ;)


Markus Says:

FedExpress, it stung a lot when Roger loat today but that quickly dissipated when I thought of 2 numbers: 34 and 17. It’s a remarkable feat to play as well as Federer does at the age of 34 (35 in a few weeks). And 17, that number that sends some non-Fed fans into throes of stupidity, thinking that 12 is greater than 17. How convoluted is that? Have they forgotten how to count? Do they know that to reach 17, you have to pass through 14 still?


emilia Says:

@TennisLover
@Danica

FEDERER WILL ALWAYS BE FEDERER BUT TODAY I WAS REALLY SORRY FOR HIM AND HAPPY FOR A NEW STAR AS RAONIC IMPROVED MANY ASPECTS IF HIS PLAY AND NOT ONLY ‘BOOM, BOOM’.
TENNIS LOVER, DID YOU KNOW THAT HIS BLOOD IS SERBIAN AND SO IS HIS NAME. MILOS IS PURELY SERBIAN AND LAST NAME OF RAONIC IS SERBIAN FROM MONTENEGRO. HIS CITIZENSHIP IS CANADIAN OR HE IS CANADIAN BORN BUT HE IS A FIGHTER. HE LACKS CHARISMA OF NOVAK AND IS NO ENTERTAINER AND I PRAY THAT NOVAK RETURNS. SO, MR IS A NEW DEMON TO WORRY ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE FALLEN ANGEL.


BBB Says:

It’s really pathetic that every thread reverts to GOAT, even when nobody holding 17 majors nor 12 nor 14 is in the final.

For the love of all that’s holy, can we not focus the people who are in the *$(% final: Milos, breaking through, and Andy, a Brit looking for his second Wimbledon crown?

Congrats to them both. I hope it’s a good final.


Willow Says:

Maybe they should re-name this forum GOAT-X ? ….


Purcell Says:

Markus@CF1:………’write me an essay etc etc.’ Please don’t encourage him/her! We’ve had enough repetitive twaddle to take us to infinity and beyond.


Willow Says:

Agree with BBB, this should be about Andy and Milos, Milos in his first GS final, and Andy going for a second Wimbledon title on home soil, its a historical day, even before they play the final ….


Purcell Says:

emilia……please stop shouting.


Daniel Says:

Also Raonic finally delivering what we thought of him on grass. He will be a force to reckon in the future for sure. Next year Djojo and Murray will be 30 and the young guns (24 under pack) are still not mature for this stage. Guess Raonic will be right there with Djoko and Murray for next Wimbledons. Fed I thnk jas lost his window. Who knows maybe this year USO if the stars align again. We were sating the same thing in Wimby 2014, than 2015 he made 2 finals amd this year 2 semis. As long as he is in final 4 there is always a chance.


emilia Says:

@Purcell

I AM NOT SHOUTING MY DEAR. I JUST COULD NOT SWALLOW THE CRAP ABOUT DJOKO OR ANY PLAYER FOR THAT MATTER. WHY SHOULD ANYONE BE MEAN IF WE ENJOY THE GAME AND HAVE OUR FAVOURITES? AND A BIT OF INFORMATION HURTS NO ONE.


MMT Says:

Jane, those were tournament averages, not for the match.


MMT Says:

Those were stats from the ESPN broadcast, by the way.


jane Says:

oh, makes so much more sense: thanks MMT.


jane Says:

emilia, using all caps is generally considered shouting in online communication; it’s hurting my eye-ears. : /


J-Kath Says:

Markus: Shouldn’t you be in hiding? You promised you would down a bottle of cheap wine…and refrain from adding to your prejudices???


Van Persie Says:

Happy for Andy :). Have not seen the match, but I understand it was a speedy one.
Lovely to see a Milos-Andy final


Markus Says:

OK, J-Kath, I’ll go back to my vinegary drink called cheap wine. I’ll be back Sunday with new and improved prejudices.


J-Kath Says:

Looking forward, Markus. No problem. I’m enjoying some cheap vino too.


FedExpress Says:

14 ue over 5 sets and lost the match. still hard to take.


Willow Says:

Meant to say how nice it was seeing Squirrel and Jatin posting again, sorry Federer lost, but i hope you both stick around, we had some nice chats last summer when i was Gypsy Gal ;-))


emilia Says:

@Jane

Thanks for the tip as I really DIDN’T KNOW that caps are used for shouting.

Great match on Sunday — so let us enjoy. I think Endi Mari will be the great winner.

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