What To Make Of The Novak Djokovic-Boris Becker Split?
by Sean Randall | December 7th, 2016, 2:05 pm
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To answer the question: Not much! That’s what I think about Novak Djokovic and Boris Becker ending their coaching relationship.

As was pointed out in another thread, coaches sometimes do matter. It’s irrefutable that Magnus Norman has helped Stan Wawrinka. And it’s not just coincidence that Andy Murray seems to win all his big titles while Ivan Lendl’s by his side.

But I’m not sure a guy like Roger Federer benefits much from a “super coach”, and I feel the same way with Djokovic.

Sure, under Becker, Djokovic won six Slams, won a couple dozen titles, etc, but without Becker you could argue Djokovic would have done just as well. Heck, maybe better. Maybe worse? Who knows, but I strongly feel the results wouldn’t have been much different.

Bottom line is, Djokovic was a great player before Becker and he’ll be a great player after Becker. That is if he wants to be.

What I do look forward to with Becker now is that he’s a free man, and he’s a free man who likes to talk! And it didn’t take him long to start spilling some beans on Djokovic. For now, he’s tempered his words, but some day the “good stuff” will come out.

A few of Boris’s quotes from the Sky interview:
“He didn’t spend as much time on the practice court in the last six months as he should have and he knows that.”

“I don’t know if he had any personal problems based on what I know… He is happily married. He has got a beautiful son.”

“But the profession of a tennis player is probably the most selfish one in sports because it has to be about you and he is the first to say he is a family man so of course his wife and the rest of his family had to take back seats.

“That can’t be forever and I think that is what he meant. I don’t think there were problems. I have met his wife – she is lovely and very, very supportive of her husband.

“But they don’t spend enough time together. I had it too, 20 years ago. It is just the nature of the beast, being a tennis player.”

So, translation: Boris is saying in a nice way that Novak has family problems and tennis has now taken a back seat. It’s the “nature of beast”, because we know Boris has been there (ie, broom closet).

And I said as much a month ago so I won’t rehash it all here.

But what I will say is for Djokovic the coach doesn’t really matter. As long as he’s got some people around him he can trust and bounce things off of, he’s fine. That could be Marian, that clown Pepe or one of his bros, I don’t think it makes much of a difference.

What does make a difference is motivation. As Boris said, he’s got to want to get back to work. This is up to him. And I agree with Boris, if Novak puts the work back in he’ll smoke Murray and everyone else for another 12-18 months or so. The tour would again be his because when Novak’s in full flight, he’s hands down the best tennis player on the planet, no argument.

But again, my sense is in effort to get things right at home, Novak’s put tennis behind his family. It’s almost like he’s been told (and I think he was) that he can’t have both, chase the records and have a home life, like Federer has managed to do for so long. And that’s how it is now (we see this decision to split with Boris) and it could be that way going forward. We’ll see, his choice.


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162 Comments for What To Make Of The Novak Djokovic-Boris Becker Split?

Zeke Says:

I think Boris will take some time before coaching any other player. Coaching Djoker is a tough act to follow.

But if I had to guess, I would say he either joins Del Potro’s camp or Goffin’s.


Yolita Says:

“And I agree with Boris, if Novak puts the work back in he’ll smoke Murray and everyone else for another 12-18 months or so.”
——————————————————-
I believe that to be true as well, it’s practically a consensus.

But, as Boris said, Novak is a man and not a computer. He will decide what’s best for him, as he should.

And we, Nole fans, will enjoy his matches with less stress, truth be told.

I’m ok with that. :)


Wog Boy Says:

Boris won’t be coaching for the time being, he’ll keep his word, only and only, if becomes obvious that Nole is not interested in coming back and makig tennis his priority again, Boris might take over another player. So, don’t expect him to coach anybody for at least next twelve months.
You won’t see Boris in the Nole’s (major) oponents player’s box, his name is not Ljubicic nor he is WTA coach.


Margot Says:

“Smoke Murray!” Lol Boris always had a big gob.


sinha71 Says:

I think that Boris could help Raonic who lost both Moya and McEnroe.


Wog Boy Says:

Not as big “gob” as Andy, literary so, besides, it wasn’t Boris who said that but Sean, so Sean, hiw big is your gob.

It would be helpful first to read the article before making comment and nasty one too.


jane Says:

you make some valid points sean, esp some that have been ignored by so much of the media, like novak taking some down time from tennis/practice –after winning the freaking grand slam no less!– and spending it with his family. thanks for acknowledging that.


sinha71 Says:

jane you are very right about his grand slam basically ignored. Criminal.

Everybody just calling it his “career” slam.

That said, Sampras and Federer are unique in their longevity of their commitment and resultant success.


jane Says:

^ we’ll have to see about that. the careers of rafa, novak and andy aren’t over. :)


Margot Says:

Apologies Wog Boy. It is indeed Sean with the “big gob” in this case. Sean doing the controversial as normal.
However, I do think Boris has a big gob too. Did you hear the interview he did prior to the split?
BTW I thought the only thing you guys had wished for was that Nole won RG? Not the case any more?


Wog Boy Says:

I read all his interviews in the last couple of days and he was very measured, very loyal and not a big gob whatsoever.


sinha71 Says:

LOL Margot and Wog Boy!

jane, safe to say that as much respect I have for Murray, he will not have the unique success of Federer and Sampras.


Margot Says:

sinha71
Lol Andy fans are under no such delusions about Andy rivalling Fed or Sampras. At this stage of his career he couldn’t possibly catch either. This realisation is what makes us Andy fans such a happy and relaxed bunch….;) And BTW we are really pleased for Andy’s sake, he got to No 1 which had been a long held ambition of his.
I really don’t know if Nole can catch Fed. Fortunately/unfortunately the future is not ours to see.


sinha71 Says:

I love Andy by the way Margot and I am happy to see him for Number 1. Nobody deserves it more!

He is truly great player with extreme commitment to excel just like other Big 4.


Wog Boy Says:

Boris already scored new job, he will be commentator for German speaking Eurosport starting with AO2017 and he is looking forward to it.


BBB Says:

Refreshing that he’s trying to figure out how to balance family life with his career. He did comment when winning the French that his family had put up with him. Perhaps the deal they truck was that he’d put it all out there to win the French and then dial it back.

It wouldn’t surprise me if this were a fluid situation, though. Who knows, his wife might get sick of having him around after a few months….


Ronn Says:

A really, really dumb move on Djoko’s part. After his big 2011, he was going nowhere fast and his game stagnated, and it was only after he added Boris that his game clicked into high gear. Without Boris, Djoko never would have beaten Federer at Wimbledon 2014 and wouldn’t have beaten him in 2015 either. Djoko might as well just make that azz-CLOWN Pepe his coach now because he’s finished winning MAJORS. Djoko can’t hug and kiss his way to winning more MAJORS so he’s going to learn the hard way. But hey, if he’s happy losing all the time then the more power to him.


Ronn Says:

Several things stick out in this article, but I’ll go to Federer. I don’t agree with this idea floating around that Federer never needed a coach to be successful. Maybe in his early and mid career, but since the age of 32 or so he really could have used a good coach to give him advice. It was Federer’s own smugness and arrogance that kept him from getting one, and I’m of the opinion that it coast him a few titles. As for Djoko, he needs a coach to keep him in the game MENTALLY, and this azz-clown Peepee isn’t gonna cut it. But hey, what can we do? It’s Djoko’s life so good luck to him but I no longer have high expectations for him. Chances are Murray will be the man for the next year or so until a young buck takes over while Djoko will be reduced to winning a few MASTERS 1000s and maybe making the finals and semis of a few more MAJORS until he calls it a day. That’s it.


prao Says:

This is the most inane load of hogwash i have ever read,
“…Bottom line is, Djokovic was a great player before Becker and he’ll be a great player after Becker. That is if he wants to be”. Oh, yeah i’m sure that if even the very best wish for something without putting in their hard yards viola, it comes true just like that with a snap of the fingers which is why Novak’s second serves are pin point accurate (by slightly reducing the serve speed by 1-2 kph on average, his attacking play has improved and hence shortened his time on court, improved slice, big match mentality improvement without any input from Boris. But of course, but then again words are cheap and by the same token let me add that as of today Roger’s backhand can now finally handle Rafael’s high bouncing forehand on clay at will just by wishing it. This is for starters. Are you running a high fever? Seriously. At their level, it’s not huge changes that make a difference but it takes work like anything in life regardless of how much talent/ genius they may have.


Ronn Says:

Margot, that may be true, but you know how it goes. After Djoko won the FO maybe he decided that’s enuff so he’ll hug and kiss everybody and enjoy the rest of his career. Who knows? But for me personally, I’d like to see him tie Pete and Rafa with 14 MAJORS and maybe even sneak in 15 so he can be considered the 2nd best player ever to pick up a racket behind Federer. But you know what they say, you can take a horse to water but you can’t make it drink…


Ronn Says:

Prao, do you see the interview in its entirety? Although discreetly, Boris did take some swipes at Djoko when he said that you can’t win by just pushing a button and you can’t win by just showing up at a tournament. So what he was saying is that was what Djoko was essentially doing after the French, and if Djoko still has this attitude he’s done winning MAJORS. No pain no gain, and if Djoko doesn’t want pain and only wants to hug and kiss everybody then great, but he’s done winning MAJORS. It’s that simple.


lakie Says:

I had already posted ITF definition of grand slam so what Djok achieved is NOT a Grand Slam.
Also claiming that Djok is the best tennis player on the planet and can smoke Murray is just Sean’s opinion and really not worthy of him if he wants to be regarded as a tennis writer and not a blind fan. Equally Murray can say, “if I wasn’t traumatized by Dunblane, if I did not have back surgery, if I did not have a split knee….I could have won 50 slams..”
So let us not talk of ifs. Let us stick to facts. Right now Murray is the best tennis player on the planet and he smoked Djok at the WTF.


Markus Says:

Djokovic probably just wants to have a breather. He came up during the time of Federer and Nadal, arguably the two best ever. He worked so hard to get to their level and succeeded to the point that it can even be argued that he may even be better than those two. That’s a lot of non-stop intense focus and hard work. When, like the two, he achieved his own career slam, winning four straight which is even better, who can blame him if he wants to slow down a bit? He has a young family and a young boy. A little break to enjoy them before the boy gets of too big is called for and needed. If you ask me, I think it’s great that he has his priorities right. It”s temporary. Before long, he will refocus and start beating everybody again.


Truth Says:

He’s always with his wife and almost always with his brother Marko. How is he not with his family?
I guess he dreads being #1 behind Fed. I don’t believe Becker with his nonsense about how Novak can’t concentrate without Fedal and that he’s so happy to fight for Fedal Slam counts.

If he loves it so much, how come he’d rather party and tell everyone how “great” he feels when he feels like a stressed out, confused, guilty family breadwinner.


prao Says:

Ronn,

I think the answer lies somewhere in between what you and markus said. I do agree that Boris took a swipe not necessarily at Novak but at pepe . I do think he needs a breather, but he does need someone like vajda or a former elite player to remind him either on a hourly/ daily/ weekly what it takes to win major titles. Personally i don’t understand why being no 1 is so important without winning a major first. Novak can dominate in stretches, maybe not like 2015 but it will still require hard work and focus.


Vidzy Says:

^^^^^^
All speculations will be put to rest in jan when Nole will sweep everybody and defends his Australian Open crown.


AndyMira Says:

@Markus 9:52 pm…Agree!!!!


Paco Chuquiure Says:

Totally agree with your argument. Novak was a great champion before Becker and he will be after him. I am looking forward to see a rejuvenation of his backhand game. He needs to bring back the variety of his backhand in order to be dominant from the baseline.

As for Becker, well… i don’t see him as a coach, more as a mental advisor. Marian Vajda is a way better tennis coach for Novak.


jane Says:

markus! awesome! nice post.


Margot Says:

http://www.pepeimaztennis.com/home-en/
If any of you want to enrol, here’s the prospectus.


AndyMira Says:

@M….Reading your given link up there,my mind automatically zoooooommed to my half countryman that lives down under…He should contact Pepe and learn one or two things from him..if only he’s been able to love the game even just a little bit..i’m sure the result will be superb..After all,Rafa already tipped him as the future no 1!


Margot Says:

What a splendid idea Andy M. Feeeeeeeling the love just gushing from Naughty Nick, already!
;)


AndyMira Says:

Well..what are you waiting for M??Sending Clarrissa ASAP!!He needs to be notify immediately..Oh…don’t forget to give your lurvvveee as a motivation as well..Heh heh..


sinha71 Says:

Becker did what he was hired to. Djoko hired him to win the big matches that he’d been losing too often in 2012 and 2013.

I will say that Djoko’s grand slam achievement after winning his first French Open is not a coincidence with Becker at his helm.


lakie Says:

Djok did not win the Grand Slam. You cannot keep repeating falsehoods.


sinha71 Says:

You say tomato. It is same thing. One is calendar and one is non calendar.

To add to this, nobody has ever done on clay, grass and hard court.

Not Laver. Not Rafa. Not Roger.

Only Djoko. It is astronomical.


skeezer Says:

“I had already posted ITF definition of grand slam so what Djok achieved is NOT a Grand Slam.”
Truth. 👍


Giles Says:

Wonder what Ben Pronin makes of all this. Where is he BTW? Hasn’t been here for yonks.


RZ Says:

Off-topic but there’s no applicable thread for this…For 4K fans, it looks like Thanasi Kokkinakis is going to be sidelined for a while longer. http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2016/12/kokkinakis-return-date-uncertain-says-hewitt/62703/

I guess with Tommy Haas getting close to retirement, we have a candidate for the next president of the injury club. 😞


Margot Says:

Andy M @4.54am
The Eagle Has Landed….oops wrong mission. Rather the pigeon has safely landed in OZ. Unfortunately she took a wrong turning and delivered our message of love and hugs to the wrong naughty boy! However, he’s promised to take it to heart, bless, and reform:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/dec/08/bernard-tomic-ready-for-a-full-time-coach-and-a-crack-at-the-top-10


RZ Says:

@Margot – how long will that last? We heard it last year right before Bernie invoked his Tomic the Tank Engine persona and gave up on a match.


Van Persie Says:

Djoko wants Cahill as coach. Will Cahill interrupt his contract with Halep? Let’s see.


Van Persie Says:

P.S. sorry. Ignore my above comment, that they might work together. Only speculations from romanian tabloids….only a misundrrstanding from my side. But I would have been glad…


Margot Says:

RZ: will believe it when I see it TBH. But I hope he can,


AndyMira Says:

@M…Wot?wot?I’m very very disappointed with Clarissa now…3 weeks ago,you promised me a ticket[that was supposed to send it by Clarissa] to an “Exclusive Ride With Andy Murray On Old Double Decker,But If You’ve Got A Weak Heart,Don’t You Dare Join Us” thingy…And you know what?I didn’t see a ticket anywhere..And now,she gave the lervvvee to The Tank Engine?[Who coincidentally made a hollow promised every pre AO for the last 3,4 years straight to crack the top 10?]…Urgh!Clarissa can kill me one of these days!


Yolita Says:

@lakie, 9.48 pm

I ham reading the ITF rule book, here is the link:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120118183826/http://www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/pdf/original/IO_46448_original.PDF

Scroll to page 54. I read the following:
———————————————————–
ROLL OF HONOUR
GRAND SLAM

The Grand Slam titles are the championships of Australia, France, the United States of America and Wimbledon. Players who hold all four of these titles at the same time achieve
the “Grand Slam”.

———————————————————

Players who hold all four of these titles at the same time achieve the “Grand Slam”.

But it really is not about the name, it is about the achievement. It is clearly not the same to have won all 4 grand slams at some point ( an incredible achievement), to having had them all on display at the same time. One is much rarer than the other (an even rarer achievement).

Why people want to belittle this obvious achievement is beyond me. In all sports peope love records being broken. We all win when an athlete does something outstanding.

I had never seen a man hold all 4 slams at the same time. I don’t think I will again. It is memorable. We should all celebrate it.


Yolita Says:

I apologise for all the typos above. I wish we could edit posts.


sinha71 Says:

I agree completely Yolita. This is my understanding also.

I have my private suspicions why some fans will try to minimize this achievement which I keep to myself.

But all things considering it is every bit as impressive if not more than what the Great Rod Laver did.

It was under celebrated.


jane Says:

thanks yolita! once again, an awesome post. :)
facts matter

[especially when the word of the year is "post-fact". another word of the year is "xenophobia". journalists should really take heed of both! they're running rampant]


prao Says:

@Paco C, it was vajda who recommended be brought on board and it happened because vajda thought Novak needed help in big matches. Now, Novak may draw upon the wisdom that was imparted, but he wont progress without putting in the hard work and mental focus.
@yolita @sinha71 i agree totally with you on Novak’s slam achievement (calendar or not). It is a stupendous feat and may occur in another half century if that. Roger and rafa could not achieve it. Period and enough said and i am a rafa/ Boris fan.


prao Says:

@sinha71 i will say though that rafa won the French, Wimbledon and us open in 2010 and that is the closest anyone has come to djoko by winning on clay, grass hard in succession.


Willow Says:

Although Rafa didnt do 4 in a row, he did do 3 in a year, on 3 different surfaces in 2010, he also won the FO,W and OG on HCs in 2008, i know we are talking about Novak, but just wanted to throw that in there, hes also the only active player to have multiple GS on all 3 surfaces, and to think people here say hes such a failure ….


J-Kath Says:

I don’t believe we will ever again see the same domination by one male player as we have experienced over the last 2-3 years again. – and that player was Nole.

I have no doubt Nole will be the target for every player he meets from now on (who can blame them) – having been so outstanding. Andy – well – he might play the conqueror for a while – he is much more balanced in his life than Nole at the moment – nonetheless it is likely that Andy’s renewed challenge may be the very thing that Nole needs — not Fed or Nadal as Boris has said.

So 2017 is not about about who won this or that. It is a sober conjecture about who is capable of taking out Nole and/or Andy – because really that is where it is at.

A review of where Nole is at is a bit premature. I’m hoping Wogboy and Jane may agree it is still all to fight for….at least in 2017.

And to lighten everything – AM- have you forgotten the double-decker buses to Wimbledon leapt out of my vision – tuts, girl, Margot is Welsh – no chance against the Scots. Me and Andy…well I’ll say no more….except I’ll need a bit more “sucking up” and depending on that…….?


sinha71 Says:

prao, no suprise that ITF suddenly wanted to redefine their own long-standing definition of grand slam as holding all four together at once when Rafa was about to complete his own grand slam in 2010.


sinha71 Says:

Sorry I mean 2011 at Australia.


Travis Bickle Says:

Yolita,

You may post hard facts, definitions, and original source files directly from ITF. However, that means absolutely nothing since here we have higher authorities whose knowledge trumps your facts…

I see that a phenomenon/being called “lakie” who only appears here when Djoker loses (which is fortunately rare) posted numerous times on Tennis X that Djokovic did not win Grand Slam. In addition, another authority from this site (skeezer) confirmed it and offered his ‘thumbs up’.
So who are we to argue (and post some trivial, likely doctored, definitions from ITF) with those two juggernauts of tennis knowledge and objectivity. We perhaps would have a case if the two of them were Federer fanatics and were jealous their idol never won 4 majors in a row, but they are not – by their own assertions they are objective tennis observers and sane folks. I do believe them.

So Yolita, even though you know I like you a lot, in this case I am siding with lakie and skeezer! Djoker never won Grand Slam – he only has the career slam, which is something Federer and Nadal also have.
The small (actually microscopic) fact that Djoker won 4 majors in a row and held all 4 of them at the same time, is something Federer and Nadal could have easily done, had they wanted to. For instance, gracious Fed would win Wimbledon, then US Open, then AO, and when he arrived at Roland Garros, he would graciously let Rafa win the title because he wanted to avoid this controversy regarding 4 in a row from July to June versus 4 in a row from January to September. That is what smart, gracious, divine athletes do and not greedily go for titles…

Another example confirming this: Federer just turned down playing that money grab called IPTL, because he wants to better heal his horrific injuries and prepare for competitive season, knowing it is not about money and earning few easy $$$ in India. Too bad that wonderful site of his “rf.com” has been dismantled – I loved to go there and read all those knowledgeable and objective tennis posts from folks like skeezer and lakie ;-(


J-Kath Says:

Travis – I’m with you re. Roger and IPTL. Why the h-ll could he not have simply played the one match and waved the fee? What about the fans? For crying out loud did he need the money? Was it hard-nosed principle? hIS FARE AND HOTEL BILLS WERE PAID – IT WAS ONE SINGLE MATCH. And to share the misery – Serena as well. Somebody must explain to me Why, Why? Even if he’d been conned, how could he allow himaself to be so money-grubbing. Could you see Nole or Andy acting like this? They would have made the best of a bad situation – they would not have walked out because of money – it being one match…………


sinha71 Says:

Travis, yes my suspicion in general exactly. You are right on.

J-Kath, also quite correct. He made commitment to fans who spent a lot of money planning to see him not always refundable. I know of some by the way. He and Serena could honour their commitment and decide what to do the following year if not paid as promised.


Wog Boy Says:

JK,

I will disappoint you, this Nole, with this mindset and with the people around him atm (few most influential ones) is not coming back, he might squeeze masters here or there if he is lucky and that’s it, unless somebody slaps him so hard that his ears ring for a few days and force him to open his eyes and stop “meditating “.


J-Kath Says:

Wog Boy

You are responding similarly as I did when it seemed Andy was falling apart (I think around his “recovery” from back surgery which I think was played down at the time) and subsequently against Fed’s bath episode/fall in the park, whatever……… etc.

If Noel “squeezes” (as you say) an odd masters here and there – who can say this will not re-vitalize him? I seriously cannot see him being content with a major slide down the rankings to the extent that he will be unable to revive his fighting spirit.

While wonderfully different – both Andy and Nole come from tough id different backgrounds – can’t see Nole consistently without the fire in the blood.

We are unlikely to see Nole slaughter all and sundry easily but I sincerely believe he will be up there close to his best. I’m seriously counting on Andy and Nole being Nos. 1 and 2 end of 2017…and wouldn’t bet on who overcomes the other.

Keep faith.


Yolita Says:

Nice to see you, Travis! :D


Wog Boy Says:

JK,

It is not about faith, it is about Nole’s mindset, old Nole would never ever say “I didn’t have chance to win the match”. I have faith in old Nole, warrior Nole, if that Nole comes back everything is possible.

Look what Lendl is doing with Andy’s schedule, Lendl like a shark smells the blood, Nole’s blood and ordered his protege to go for knock out blow, he is sending Andy to play every tournament Nole plays, Andy used to play Tokyo, but he switches to Beijing, Andy doesn’t play Doha, but he will start 2017 playing Doha and will keep going after Nole. In this environment Nole needs shark no three huggers, but he is opting for the later one and soon or later knock out blow will come, unless somebody slaps him, but really hard.


Truth Says:

Novak believes he’s lucky to hit the lottery jackpot. In 2009, he said he was too awful to think about winning many Slams.
He doesn’t want to be compared to Fed because that’s too boring to him.
He’s already considered a faker. There’s “no need” to talk about winning 4 straight slams because FEDAL are supposedly “the best”.
His fame doesn’t change him or his ego, so he has no one that inspires him.
The fact that Nadal won 3 slams in 2010, when Novak didn’t play his very best yet, is forgotten.

Fed never had to suffer in Slams in 2004-2006.
Even a close match didn’t hurt Fed because he was far more arrogant, better, physically stronger, wealthier and worshipped than meek clowns like Roddick, Safin & Hewitt.
The biased media fought half the battle to destroy the minds of terrible opponents back then.
His fans really believe Roddick could return the ball well enough to win Slams.

Murray wants to win and has no depressed family member that lays guilt trips on him.
None of the Slam flukes of 2004-06 had nearly as much talent as Novak or Murray.


AndyMira Says:

@JK…Ooppss Heh!heh!…err Boss, i thought you’re on vacation somewhere and won’t return to TX until next month?What makes you change your mind?Missing me??Heh!heh!Heh!Btw Boss…When you woke up this morning…

1] Did you notice the birds and seagulls singing to you?That’s because i told them to last nite..i’ll translates the meaning okay?…
a]Good morning beeeeeeautiful Angel..
b]Did anyone ever told you that you’ve got the biggest,warmest,amazing smile on earth?
c]You are an incredible and strong person..
d]Please noted,if the sun arise and shining brightly,that means it’s shining for you Milady!

Ho ho ho..LET’S HUG!!C’MON!!


Margot Says:

AM @1.59
Yeah, Clarissa had been a bit of a disappointment lately, losing her way and all. Perhaps she needs a new coach? Perhaps Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer is available after December 24th. He seems to find his way with unerring accuracy. What do you think?


AndyMira Says:

@M…I’m not sure you read my comment before..it’s about Clark[clarissa's soulmate,you know,tall,dark,handsome,hairiest dude you can fiiinnddd,and he's here,serve as my slave for eternity]..i think Clarissa is going senile without him..And about Rudolf,that too is an excellent idea M!


Margot Says:

http://media.photobucket.com/user/Tamari-07/media/16550.jpg.html?filtersterm=sunshine&filtersprimary=images&filterssecondary=videos&sort=1&o=2
One back!
Lol laughed at first one, you cheeky mo!
So, is Thomas The Tank your new beau? Good luck in which case!


AndyMira Says:

@M…Oho Oho Oho ho ho…aww my eyes!my eyes!I must be died and go to Heaven already!!!

PS…Before you go to sleep tonight M..please check one of TX thread okay?I will send you a veryyyyyyy nice good night wishes…In fact,start from now on,i will make this my daily routine!Ho ho bad news for Sean!..Hugs and kisses from a faraway land…C’MON!!!


Giles Says:

J-K. Aren’t you forgetting fed’s domination? Went on for several years if I remember correctly!!!


Giles Says:

Lol. ” Lendl like a shark smells the blood, Nole’s blood”. You mean same as joker was smelling fed’ s and Rafa’ s blood in the last 3 years, hence his blood stained victories. What goes around comes around. Suck it up!!


J-Kath Says:

AM

Is it fair to say “you’re off with the birds”?

@ 9.20pm….you ask me:
“Did you notice the birds and seagulls singing to you?That’s because i told them to last nite..i’ll translates the meaning okay?”

Sorri AM, but the reason they sing to me is because I feed them every day. They do their “business” on my front step if I don’t – the seagulls are huge, the magpies evil, the wee chirpers are divine.

And yes, I’m not really back – I actually was away and arrived home totally spent – and the recent Nole chapter and how sad it is for his fans spurred me to respond. Also I was p-ssed off with Roger and Serena.

OK – I’m off again. Keep smiling.


Willow Says:

J-Kath belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you my dear, hope you had a lovely day ;-)) ….


J-Kath Says:

Willow:

Thanks and you too. I gave myself a small holiday. Came back exhausted but in a good way I hope.


Willow Says:

Many thanks J-Kath, and i certainly did ;-)) ….


skeezer Says:

@Travis
Great post. You are the best at ranting👍


lakie Says:

travis, yolita, sinha71, jane and others…. no matter how much you argue that Djok achieved the grand slam, he has not, as per ITF’s current definition. None of you nor me or ITF is going anywhere. ITF will publish its updated Roll of Honor. Let us see whether Djok’s name appears under “Grand Slam”. As per the 2015 and 2016 versions which I have, he does not satisfy the definition. So let us wait and see. Till then kindly stop your annoying whines.


Willow Says:

Annoying whines lol, yeah talk about an argument thats been beaten to the ground ….


sinha71 Says:

Who knows? ITF will change their mind again next year.

Historically, it has been just four in a row according to ITF.

With ITF definition for decades (until last year), it is grand slam for Djoko.


Willow Says:

Sinha71 no offence to you in my above post, i just think its a discussion thats gone round and round in circles too much lately ….


AlexB Says:

Becker leaving speaks to Djokovic’s state of mind, at least as perceived by former.
Boris was always leaving 100% on the court. His hips are testament to that. Djokovic has been doing rounds talking about tennis not being his #1 priority. Clearly Becker is not willing to be recreational coach.


Truth Says:

Boris was a fading opponent in the early 1990s. He may be obsessed with Fed, but Novak isn’t.
Djoker convinces himself that he’s happy with the ex-players and naysayer’s laughing at his face.
It’s mental illness. Masochism.
He doesn’t want to be better than Fed, so he just plays well against the non-Slam players.
Djoker wants to be at peace with failure. Imo, he shuts down his self-control, but still can’t stop talking too much to the media hyenas.


Margot Says:

Goodnight Andy M. Throwing coconuts eh? Didn’t think you were a violent women…….EEK! Don’t think Sean will mind, not clogging up any match thread after all.
Meanwhile, ANDEE is in MIAMEE! Yay! Back on the practise court in the sunshine. Oh lucky man. Only a couple of weeks off after all. C’mon!


AndyMira Says:

@M…Congrats for another awards that Andy successfully bagged..That’s HUGE me thinks..and he did that within the last 5 months!Incredible!I still can’t believe what he has done and achieved in the 2nd half of the season..I’m still speechless when thinking about it..Anyway..

1]Andy is the UK’s Greatest Ever Sportsperson
2]Novak is Serbia’s Greatest Ever Sportsperson
3]Rafa is the Spain’s Greatest Ever Sportsperson
4]Roger is the Swiss Greatest Ever Sportsperson

#WOW!!!JUSTWOW!!!!


lakie Says:

For your information, sinha71, historically the definition of grand slam is all 4 in one season. ITF deviated in between but reverted to the original definition because it realized it violated the norms of a grand slam. Grand slam is applicable to other sports too and in every sport a true grand slam is achieved in the same play or same season/calendar year. Even if ITF changes its definition in the future, the 2016 definition will hold for Djok’s achievement unless they alter it retrospectively.


Wog Boy Says:

It is nice feeling for Nole fans knowing that he achieved something that nobody else in tennis history managed to achieve, winning non-calendar Grand Slam on three different surfaces, that wil be repeated by commentators time and time again in every GS to be played in future until and when (if) some future great manages to repeat that historic feat…and Nole haters can just cringe and cringe on every mention of that historic feat.


lakie Says:

Well Nadal won on three different surfaces in the same season, which no one, not even Laver managed. Federer has 17 slams and 23 consecutive slam semis which no one has ever done in history. Andy has won 2 olympic tennis golds which no one has done in history winning on 2 different surfaces. No one is going to cringe because winning on 3 different surfaces in more than one season has been achieved by Fed also….career slam. Fed has 27 grand slam finals. Fed has 5 multiple slam years. Nadal has won one slam 9 times.
There are so many achievements of Fedal that Djok fans will cringe and cringe.
Djok fans are welcome to have a nice feeling but unfortunately it is a lesser achievement than Laver’s grand slam and lesser than Nadal’s 3 surfaces in one season.


lakie Says:

Both Fed and Nadal achieved the channel slam which poor Djok could not achieve. Just stick to feeling good about your idol. Don’t try to discount others who have numerous historic achievements which Djok does not have.


Danica Says:

Lakie,
like it or not, it is a Grand Slam. Period. If it were all done in one season, it would have been called a Calendar Grand Slam. Nole holding all 4 at the same time cannot even compare to Roger’s or Rafa’s mere career slam achieved within several years. You can spin it anyway you want. If Stan somehow manages to win Wimbledon next year are you going to put that at the same level with Novak’s achievement? And how about holding 4 slams and a WTF at the same time? Five biggest titles in tennis. Please, let me know when Fedal achieves that. Thank you. And let me know when they go above Novak’s number of masters titles. Or when they win IW/Miami double. And then do it the next year. And the next.
How do you like nitpicking now?

“Poor Djok” didn’t “win” something called “Channel Slam” (whoever came up with that?!) but one more big title, say, just one masters next year, and he is the player with the most big titles in history.


Markus Says:

Obviously some people are quite insecure about the achiievements of their idol that they have this compelling need to discredit the achievements of others. That tells me they have doubts that Djokovic may still not be up to par with the true greats.


Danica Says:

Markus,
I’ll pull the Travis Bickle and ask: “Are you talking to me?” :) Because, if you do, you are sadly mistaken. It was also my feeling – that by trying to make a point to Lakie, I am discrediting the results of Fedal. Contrary to Lakie however, who used that tactic to belittle Nole, it was not my intention. Nole IS a true great and no amount of discrediting his achievements by certain posters will change the pages in tennis history books.


lakie Says:

Danica whether you like it or not, it is not up to you to define a Grand Slam. Anyway I am tired of arguing with Orwellian characters who want to force their version of truth on those who try to respect facts. So please feel free to force your Party Line on whoever you can. Unless ITF is also subject to your will, I guess I will have the last laugh! This topic is closed as far as I am concerned.


AndyMira Says:

@M…Phew!It’s sure feel so hot in here!Hey M…i forgot[silly me,yeah i know] to congratulate you for coming in ehem!…5th place in err..what contest?I forgot..Beauty Queen?The Most popular Poster on TX?Anyway…i got a present for you…check this out babe…

http://www.bestnamepix.com/image_process.php?name=MARGOT&name2=&id=515


Willow Says:

Fed won RG and W B2B in 2009, he also won 3 GS in a year and the WTFs, Rafa won RG and W B2B twice in 2008 and 2010, i know more about Rafas achievements as i follow him more than Roger, but his achievements are off the planet, however Rafa is the only player on tour to have gone unbeaten on grass in 2008, on clay in 2010, and the American HC season in 2013, commies said he was also the only player to have 35 wins on clay and HCs in the same season which was 2013, in 2008 he also won OG on HCs 3 different surfaces, and RG, W, USO in 2010 again on 3 different surfaces, hes the only player on tour to have multiple GS on 3 different surfaces, yet he seems to be deemed as a failure according to some ….


AndyMira Says:

Speaking of The Most Popular Poster On TX…i have a question for Sean or Staff…All this time i was wondering,why there is only a contest to determined a Top 10 or Top 20 for players category?Why not make a contest especially dedicated to all POSTERS that involved in giving their comments all year long on TX?Let say…make a poll..who’s got the highest vote for The Most Popular Poster,who’s the meanest and brutal posters[he he],who’s the most fair and balanced and the MOST IMPORTANT category of all…who’s got the BEST EVER POSTER ON TX FOR 2016 season award?How’s that Sean?


Willow Says:

Just wanted to throw that in there as Rafas achievements largly get ignored or forgotten here ….


Willow Says:

AndyMira i dont expect to win any popularity contests here, or be the top of many people Christmas card lists lol ….


AndyMira Says:

@Willow…Nope,you’re very wrong sis!Wanna know why?Your name is the most mentionable on TX IMO all year long..If not for your comments regularly[which is only made this site very colourful everyday]..it’s also because your magic name was mentioned in almost every posters comment here…for good cause and unfortunately for bad cause as well[you know why]..and to me,that makes you very popular indeed!..So,if Sean put up the poll..i gotta tell you sis,i’m gonna vote for you for that category..


rognadfan Says:

@AndyMira
Even though I have posted very sparsely since I began visiting the blogs here in the previous decade, I think your idea is great. TX should seriously consider it. I know who got my votes; sepcially on the two categories; the most bickersome, and thin-kinned when it comes to seeing anything remotely critical (whether it’s substantive or otherwise) about their player.
Would be interesting to see whether, the mass has seen them too.
And of course, it will be very difficult to decide on the best of categories because there are many such insightful posters.


AndyMira Says:

Hey rognadfan…Even though we’re never communicating before,but i’ve already familiar with your name,you know..I’ve always went to TX old thread and read all of it..And you’re right,it’s very interesting to see who’s the winner in every category and i mostly can’t wait to know who’s got THE BEST POSTERS AND SPORTSMANSHIP AWARD..There’s a few category that i want to add:

1]The Most Annoyed Posters[hope it's not me!ha ha]

2]The Most Smart And Genius Poster

3]The Most Sporting Fanbase On TX..whether it’s Andy[err this is my pick!],Novak,Rafa or Roger

I think all the ex-posters out there can’t wait to participate,not so much for the glory but more to express their inner thoughts about posters on TX..And this is going to be interesting indeed!!


AndyMira Says:

Oh!Forgot to add..One other category…Which thread is THE BEST IN 2016..


lakie Says:

AM’s idea is good. As this site is dominated by Djok fans, I am pretty sure I will get some award. At least I hope I will. Ha ha!!!
The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about-Oscar Wilde
There’s no such thing as bad publicity except your own obituary-Brendan Behan.
Any award is a good award-lakie
No matter under which category a poster gets the most votes, he/she is a winner!!!
Please vote for me!!!


Willow Says:

^YAY Did it finally, for Margot and the Murray fans, whether your a fan or not, this song is quite appropriate ATM ^ ….

Sorry Novak fans for hyjacking your thread BTW ….


AndyMira Says:

@Lakie…I still remembered vividly when Willow and my mom Okie got insulted viciously by someone,you came to their defense when no one else did..and that is enough for me to put you under THE BRAVEST POSTER ON TX…How’s that Lakie?


Willow Says:

For all Tennis-X posters, old and new, SEASONS GREETINGS to you all, one of my favorite ever Yuletide songs enjoy

https://youtu.be/j9jbdgZidu8


Willow Says:

Yeah AndyMira i remember Lakie defending me, when i was personally attacked by a number of Novak supporters, and i still remember that ;-)) ….


Willow Says:

Number 2 in the list would be MMT, Tennis Vagabond, or SG1, all very clever and knowledgeable men ….


lakie Says:

Thanks AM and Willow. You two do not have even one mean bone in your body and should be in a tie for “the fan with no mean bone” award. I nominate AM for the most cheerful and magical (!) and Willow for the best all-round fan award. Willow is one of the most knowledgeable tennis fans here. She may not quote stats and facts but has an intuitive grasp of tennis and makes very good analysis and eerily accurate predictions.
AM will nominate Danica for the Saint award. I nominate skeezer and Giles as favorite posters, Jalep as the smartest, wog boy as the most mixed up but likeable, J-Kath as the most spirited(?)….
Djok fan base gets the worst fan base award or the “1984″ award.


Willow Says:

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For BBB and AndyMira lol …


Willow Says:

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Sorry try again ….


Willow Says:

Damn ….


Willow Says:

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Willow Says:

Please forgive me TX moderators, as its the off season lol ….


J-Kath Says:

Sean

Thanks for the broom cupboard chuckle.

and

to Lakie:
Too polite, my dear, much too polite.


Willow Says:

Thankyou Lakie ;-)) ….


Wog Boy Says:

And the award for the biggest troll goes to…
……
……..
……….
……………
lakieeeeee…
congratulations lakie

PS
Why did you leave the other thread in a hurry, can you elaborate your claim that players don’t pay tax on the prize money in the countries where they play tournaments, please? I am waiting for you to come back on the other thread.


chrisford1 Says:

We were so lucky to have the Big 4. Shame some of those very fans hate each member of the Big 4 besides their fave. What a waste!
Novak’s Grand Slam argument matters because it is part of his “most complete player” case to be made. Each surface, indoors and out, facing some of the best years of Rafa and Fed, yet plugging away.


Daniel Says:

If Djoko loses to Nadal earl next year and doesn’t defend AO, than I will start believing he will fade sooner.

The guy still made at least 3 Slam finals last 2 years. Even if he keeps a 50% ration, as long as he makes 2-3 Slams finals, titles will come.

If he loses AO and RG, going 4 Slams without a title then is time to worry.


J-Kath Says:

Voting categories for Best Poster in a variety of categories initially sounded like a bit of a laugh but in retrospect it makes me a tad uneasy. I’m sorri folks but I think it will heighten tensions – do we really want that? Sorri AM – always good to see new ideas, but perhaps this is not the right forum. ???? PS: Obviously you don’t need my approval (or others) to launch it.

Cheers to all.


lakie Says:

Thanks wog boy. Being voted the bestest ( or worstest) in any category is welcome!
Actually you left the other thread. I asked you a question. Why is Djok staying in Monte Carlo instead of Serbia? As for paying taxes in countries where they play, I do not know, I am not a tax expert. But what is certain is Djok is not paying taxes in his own country. Shame on Djok!


skeezer Says:

I vote for Sean Randall as best poster.
We need a category for groups, like “best group of whiners”.


rognadfan Says:

Sean Randall for the award of the official “Jinxer” of TX, anyone voting on this? :)
That said, I remember the last few time Sean had his predictions right on the money.


AndyMira Says:

JK…

1]My idea is just for fun..no need to take seriously about it..it was like,once a year we have a family day to have fun with each other..

2]Whether Sean wants to put the poll or not…THINGS AND SITUATIONS ALWAYS HEIGHTEN ON TX!Don’t believe me?Just go back to the old thread and see for yourself… it just needs a sensitive subject and boooom!there goes!…

3]Best Poster should be judged by a variety of criteria such as his or her fairness in giving her/his comments all year long,his/her smartness in judging every issues and i guess if Sean seriously wants to do this…let him decide what other criteria that he wants us to judge..

4]All the posters/ex posters out there must have someone on their mind about who they want as the BEST POSTER…Let the vote decide..who’s get the highest vote is the winner..

PS..Like i said..it’s just an idea..If Sean wants to do this..it’s good but if not…heyyy!…i’m also very okayyy with it….CHILL JK!


Danica Says:

I am sure I don’t deserve the “Saint Award” :)). There are other more deserving ladies here.

Lakie deserves the “Award for Most Persistent” poster :).

“Secret Nole fan that is yet to get out of closet” definitely goes to Giles :).


AndyMira Says:

@Dani…Your name sure on top of my list along with Margot…

Skeezer/WB is in THE MOST LOVING/HATING category…ha ha ha..


Danica Says:

AndyMira ;), you are on top of mine :))).
Thank you for still believing in me ;)


AndyMira Says:

@Dani…”You are on top of mine”?…Ha ha ha ha…Okay sis!

Btw…I will always believe in you Dani!


Margot Says:

Sorry Danica, I awarded you “Saint” of this blog weeks ago and, as EVERYONE knows, what I say goes….;)
Darling AM, I think you would be top of everyone’s list as “most enthusiastic, looking on the bright side” blogger EVER!


Margot Says:

PS
Not going to award any turkeys, it is CHRISTmas after all, as CF1 has reminded us….;)


AndyMira Says:

@M…YOU’RE TRULY MY GUARDIAN ANGEL!LOVE YOU!..Btw..did you see the gift that i made especially for you M?


Margot Says:

BTW Sean, surely jane, Skeeze, funches, MMT and me deserve some sort of long term loyalty award…..;) Sorry, if I’ve left another “oldie” out, of course.
@ AM.
No, where honey? Find it hard to keep track of all the threads sometimes.


AndyMira Says:

@M…Just scroll a little bit up there and you’ll find it..


Colin Says:

I posted something on another thread which I’m going to repeat now, as it has a bearing on the discussion of great achievements in tennis.

Much is made of Rod Laver’s great feat of achieving the Grand Slam as originally defined, but in fact there should be an asterisk here, so in Sean Randall’s phrase, let’s rain on Laver’s parade!

Because for so long there was no open tennis, Rod Laver never had to play, on a regular basis, some all-time greats who were professionals, notably Ken Rosewall and Pancho Gonzalez.
By the time he did get to play them, both were considerably older than he, and hence not at their peak.


J-Kath Says:

AM

@ 7.37pm

“.If Sean wants to do this..it’s good”

Not necessarily.


AndyMira Says:

@JK…Ok ma’am…


Wog Boy Says:

JK,

Respect!


madmax Says:

I think it is good that Novak tries something new. Coaches and players splitting is not the be all and end all. They both brought a lot to each other’s lives for 3 years, many successes and many smiles. Towards the end, things went sour. It happens.

It always struck me that Boris was doing this to build up his own media profile. I also think he should keep his thoughts to himself on the personal side about Novak…be a bit more classy about his comments. It only serves to put BB in a bad light…I can’t see Novak bad mouthing Boris, he is too gracious for that.

Clearly, some of the personal issues that were affecting Novak earlier, have left their mark…but this clean break will hopefully spur him on to greater successes.

Back to the practise court, he must.


Giles Says:

Lol. Just wait till the bad mouthing and secrets are in full flow. Won’t be long! :)


Alexandra Says:

Boris was always someone who liked to talk, enjoying the spotlight. He made it quite clear he has a Problem with the guru.
Seems a lot of people underestimate the guru’s influence on Djoker and just expect him to automatically get back to his unbeatable best.
And while holding all 4 slams at the same time is an incredible achievement, everybody knows it’s not a Grand Slam. He got enough attention for it.


chrisford1 Says:

And while holding all 4 slams at the same time is an incredible achievement, everybody knows it’s not a Grand Slam. He got enough attention for it.

———-Yah, sure troll boy. EVERYBODY knows that. Like the issue has not come up before with Tiger, Navratilova, Serena…and mostly decided on the side of “Grand Slam” . Like Tiger’s Majors sweep did not have to start the Masters to be good for the sweep. Starting at the Brit Open is just as good because the probabilities to win it do not change- based on where it started.
It was decided in golf, a bigger and wealthier sport than tennis, that the Tiger Slam counted 100%.


lakie Says:

The Djok fans are practising doublethink. On the one hand they claim that what Djok achieved is better than a career slam and on the other hand they claim 4 in a row over two seasons is equivalent to all 4 in one season! Claiming Djok’s achievement is a grand slam is like claiming rolling ranking #1 ( ranking points spread over 2 seasons) is the same as Year end # 1.
4 in one season means the player wins on 3 different surfaces in one season, also achieves the channel slam. Djok did not achieve the channel slam or win on 3 different slam surfaces in one season. So 4 in a row in any order is definitely not equivalent to all 4 in one season.
ITF had tried to dilute the norms for a grand slam by changing the definition of grand slam to 4 in a row in 1982 but this went against its intrinsic significance and resulted in everyone talking about calendar slam and non calendar slam because even if you define they are equivalent, they are not. ITF changed the definition in 2012 back to its original form.
The award for the biggest group of whiners goes to Djok fans!
Congratulations!
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. A new year for winning, whining and wining!!!


BBB Says:

I’m in between on this. The Nole Slam is a huge deal, and I don’t agree with Alexandra that it got enough attention. The reasons for that are varied.

On the other hand, the calendar slam is harder to achieve because it’s a more defined time-period. A non-consecutive slam can begin with any of the four majors, not just the Australian, and thus there are more flexibilities for achieving it. I find that difference to be nominal, but I can see why others don’t.

But, as usual, most people will value it highly, or not, depending on whether they like whoever achieved it, or didn’t.


Truth Says:

Of course 4 straight Slams are important. Laver didn’t play more top 3 pro players on different surfaces.
Novak’s not much of a fan of French Open but needs to play because of the history books and fans.
He obviously detested the Fed/Roddick apologists at the U.S. Open.
It was exceptional that he won it by demolishing the decade-long ballerina and “elderly man” Fed.
Fed was too old by age 28, according to bitter Fedal fans. Logic is if novak reaches Slam finals with Fedal, novak is garbage.

Novak managed to get through these obstacles without his butt being kissed and placed on a pedestal in usa.
I would’ve retired at age 27 because the trash media and Fedaltards, including the players behaved like monsters.
Even Boris blames novak problems on Fedal. It is so boring. No wonder he fell out of love with the so-called tennis rivalries.


Willow Says:

BBB Put it this way, its certainly getting enough attention here ….


rognadfan Says:

Wow! How high has a “Novak Djokovic” fan gone here. After all of his achievements, some of them are for the ages (like the Nole slam), some of his fans can’t get out of the inferiority complex. Even Novak seems to get out of that years ago. “Truth” is that this truth guy is still furious that his player never reach the level of stardom the other two reached in the world of tennis.
Wake up! The world loved those two guys more than anyone else because they made tennis the game of the entire world, not just the west.


Margot Says:

Good morning to you darling. Ahhhhh strawberries and cream, very Summer. :) Wish they were growing in my garden now, but alas :(


AndyMira Says:

@M….He he..good afternoon to me already!We’re 6 hours difference more or less..Anyway M..i’m curious about something and i want to ask you about it..would you please be a good girl and reach me at this e mail address?

fdiba4189@gmail.com


Dan Says:

The one point I absolutely disagree with in this article is the difference having Becker made for Djokovic. Djokovic was only 6-6 in Slam finals before Becker, and 6-3 after him. I remember that 2014 Wimbledon final and the improvement in Djokovic’s service game as a weapon was HUGE from the year before. He barely won that final, and the improvements in his service were a huge factor that pushed him to the win. True, Djokovic was already a great player, but to be honest, when push came to shove in Slam finals, he lost finals that other greats would have won. With the addition of Becker, it was a huge addition that pushed his game to higher levels, especially in the majors.

I’m not saying he can’t win without Becker, but without the last 3 years of Becker, for sure he wouldn’t have won 6 majors. I also don’t agree that Djokovic can wing it with just any coach like Federer and have the same results. He is much more dependent on a coach for his success.


Wog Boy Says:

^^
👍


J-Kath Says:

Wogboy

U may be wrong.


Truth Says:

Novak lost his #1 in a worse way than he did in 2012 & 2013.
He threw out over 8000 points. How did Boris make him fight?!
He barely tried when a top 3 player faced him.
IMO, he believed he played better and enjoyed seeing a “tougher and more entertaining funny match” so he made things sloppy against Fedal, especially Fed. He also doesn’t losing to prove that Murray is the best.
Novak thinks it was a comedy because he was extremely bored without something screwing him up plus he didn’t fully get back to good fitness.
He actually choked in the 2014 Wimbledon final when he had set point in each set. He wasn’t “barely winning”.


skeezer Says:

@J-Kath
“U may me wrong.”

But…

U may be right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo9t5XK0FhA

Or I may be crazy!


MMT Says:

Thanks again Willow, et al…anyone know whatever happened to poster Von?


Danica Says:

MMT,
Von has not been seen here since Roddick retired. At least.

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