Murray Wins, Nadal Struggles at Monte Carlo; Nadal v Zverev Thursday
by Staff | April 20th, 2017, 12:28 am
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World No. 1 Andy Murray led an all-star cast into the third round at the Monte Carlo Masters on Wednesday, including No. 3 Stan Wawrinka and No. 4 Rafael Nadal.


Murray was a 7-5, 7-5 winner over Gilles Muller, while Wawrinka and Nadal struggled. The Swiss beat Czech Jiri Vesely 6-2, 4-6, 6-2, while the Spaniard beat Brit Kyle Edmund in an uneven 6-0, 5-7, 6-3 meeting.

“I definitely played better as the match went on,” said Murray, who hadn’t played in over a month due to a right elbow injury. “Obviously, the first service game was not ideal. But when you are coming back from not really serving for a few weeks, it’s, I think, normal. Maybe [my] technique changed a little bit. You get into the match, and it’s tricky.”

Wawrinka put a positive spin on winning in three.

“Winning in three sets means it was a good victory,” he said. “I prepared well. Physically I’m fine, so we’ll see what I can do…I know my level is good. If I’m able to improve, I might have a chance in this tournament.”

Other Top 10-seeded winners were No. 5 Marin Cilic rolling over French wildcard Jeremy Chardy 6-3, 6-0, No. 6 Dominic Thiem handling Dutchman Robin Haase 6-3, 6-2, and No. 9 Tomas Berdych coming from a set down to defeat Tommy Haas 3-6, 6-1, 6-4.

Two upsets were handed out when German qualifier Jan-Lennard Struff ousted No. 8 seed Grigor Dimitrov 4-6, 6-3, 6-2, and Argentine Diego Schwartzman sent No. 12 Roberto Bautista Agut home 6-3, 7-6(3).

Highlights of Thursday play in Monte Carlo are (1) Murray vs. (15) Albert Ramos-Vinolas, (3) Wawrinka vs. (16) Pablo Cuevas, (4) Nadal vs. (14) Alexander Zverev, (2) Djokovic vs. (13) Pablo Carreno Busta, (5) Cilic vs. (9) Berdych, and (6) Thiem vs. (10) David Goffin.

Nadal is 2-0 against Zverev, defeating the German in five sets in January at the Australian Open.


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78 Comments for Murray Wins, Nadal Struggles at Monte Carlo; Nadal v Zverev Thursday

Danica Says:

I love that picture of Andy!! And that sweater is epic :))

Speaking of Brits, young Edmund is shaping to be a real deal. But the next Rafa match is going to be mouth watering. I am really interested to see the end result.


Van Persie Says:

Hope the 2 matches, which start before Rafa-Zverev will go in deciders, coz I hope to see something from the match of the day.


Van Persie Says:

Have the feeling that this might be Sascha’s tournament.


FedExpress Says:

wtf has happened to dimitrov. after brisbane, AO and sofia he hasnt delivered.lost to sock(after having MPs),pella, robredo, struff and hasnt reached a quarter since rotterdam.


Van Persie Says:

What is Andy doing? I wished for 3 setters before Sascha’s match but actually did not think, it would be possible at this one. Starting to believe, that Andy has still problems with that elbow.


Van Persie Says:

Also see that Marin is doing well atm, could be the dark horse.


Anto Says:

wtf andy just did? He was a double break up in the decider (4-0) and somehow managed to lose the set without even going to a tiebreaker. Some one who watched the match please explain.


Daniel Says:

Murray out, only saw last two games ans comentors said he was leading 4-0 third set, WTF😱

Opening for Cilic or Wawa to make finals.


Van Persie Says:

Unbelievable, like Kyrgios would say…


Van Persie Says:

Mannarino retired, so Pouille will be fresh tomorrow


Markus Says:

Well, that’s Murray for you. He is the most frustrating player to root for. What a big disappointment for a number one ranked player. He has not done anything resembling a number one player since he became one. No physical excuse for this loss. He lead by 2 breaks in the third set.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

What a shock loss! Just saw the last few games, but Andy didn’t look mentally right: low energy, not chasing balls down. Was he tired?

So far, Federer is gaining points on the #1 in the clay season…


Colin Says:

Van Persie, I am another of those who saw only the last few games of Andy’s match, and the only positive I can take is that his elbow is OK. He is not one of the stoical brigade who carry on stone-faced through pain. If he gets a twinge, he pulls a face and clutches the offending body part. If he had been doing that, surely the commentators would have mentioned it in their summing up, with the usual remarks about bad body language. Anyone see the whole match, who can comment?


J-Kath Says:

Shingles – Andy will have to retire – he can’t count on physical ability anymore – he’s probably trying to blame his elbow – but it can often take years for shingles to fully leave the system. Seen it in a work-mate and seen it in a family member.


Van Persie Says:

JK,

Have to admit, I know nothing about shingles, but perhaps he will be cured….the medicine has evolved and perhaps he only needs a break in order to fully recover. He might be fine until Wimbledon.


Markus Says:

Murray has reached his goal of being number one. He can rest on his laurels. Yet this simply emphasizes that there really is no such thing as the Big 4, Murray does not belong there. The Big 3 is more appropriate because they are so close to each other. Just like the other number one, Kerber, neither of these currently ranked number 1s has shown anything worthy of their ranking.


Colin Says:

J-Kath, I don’t get what you mean. If he were seeking an excuse for poor form, he would have done what I described – grimaced and grabbed the elbow. But it seems he didn’t because if he did, the commentators would have mentioned it.


J-Kath Says:

Colin: I didn’t say it was his elbow.


lyle nubbins Says:

As a Rafa fan, I got a bad feeling about Zverev. Zverev should have beat Rafa at the AU Open, the high bounces do not bother him. If Rafa hits short today, he’ll lose.


J-Kath Says:

VP: I’ve been told it is as individual as one’s DNA.


Daniel Says:

Now Wawa out as well. Witch is loose in center court today, watch out Rafa and Djoko😳


skeezer Says:

Rafa is such a great tactician on Clay. Watching the first few games, there is no doubt he knows how to maneuver the ball on this stuff. What a difference in surfaces, he looks like he was born on this stuff.


gonzalowski Says:

Rafa has started playing well, solid, so Zverev too.

this guy to me is a mixture between Guga and Borg, for his appearance.
He’s making harm to Rafa with his cross backhand, to Rafa’s drive


gonzalowski Says:

5-1
good use of dropshots by Nadal
Overplaying Zvarev now


skeezer Says:

Rafa is tuning Zverev so far. He knows how to play this surface so well. After 9 GS on Clay, I would assume so. Would not blow a gasket about Wawa and Murray out early, it is too early in the too long Clay season.


gonzalowski Says:

Very bad finishing of set by Alexander… frustrated, disconnected, and angry with himself, like commentators say


Markus Says:

Nadal is beautiful on clay.


skeezer Says:

If you’re going to be a big hitter in this game, you gotta bring the consistency with it, day in and day out. Just sayin…
Rafa is just showing the younger man how to play on Clay…Z has no clue….so far.


Daniel Says:

Nadal is having less and less problems with Zverev each passing match. 6-1, 2-0 and he can get another break this game.

Onto Djoko


skeezer Says:

This surface gives Nadal waaaaaayyy too much time to hit the ball.


gonzalowski Says:

3-0 hard game for Rafa, and Zverev finishes by breaking heavily his racquet


lyle nubbins Says:

LOL Rafa is up 6-1 4-0 . . must be hitting deep!


RZ Says:

Disappointing for Murray, especially as he was up 4-0. I’ve seen several tweets where analysts/reporters have said that his elbow injury is still an issue. If that’s true, then I think Andy should sit out a few more weeks and try to come back for a strong grass season.

However, he may be tempted by Estoril. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QjWC5uGL00


RZ Says:

Rafa, this is no way to treat Sasha on his birthday! Where are your manners?


Danica Says:

Some unexpected results to be sure. Rafa seems to be destroying the birthday boy. Wow. Who’s left in Andy’s half of the draw??

Wish Andy a speedy recovery.


gonzalowski Says:

jiji :))


RZ Says:

Rafa gave Sasha a claycourt clinic for his birthday


Danica Says:

Gonzalowski, you mean gg? :))
(good game – had to ask younger son what ut meant as he says it out loud when playing video games)


RZ Says:

And Thiem is out too. :-(
Yet somehow Cilic won…


Okiegal Says:

@JK…….Shingles is in him from now on….once it appears stress can keep it going off and on. Question….. Is being the number one tennis player in the world stressful??? Well I think so. I attend church with a man who has dealt with shingles for 12 yrs!! Very painful and aggravating. I do feel for Andy. I wish him all the best. I was surprised he lost. The commentators just now mentioned his elbow. I was having an MRI this morning and didn’t see the match but just heard he was way ahead in the 3rd. They also said Andy was cramping. So who knows but I’m sorry he lost…..and sad for his fans. I feel their frustration…….


J-Kath Says:

Yes Okiegal

I agree. Shingles with him from now on. At the best it is debilating. Loss of energy. Now, Andy is fighting Andy. Think he must retire.


senorita Says:

“Murray Wins, Nadal Struggles at Monte Carlo; Nadal v Zverev Thursday” Lol!!!
Who is going home today?


Danica Says:

What’s your point nad… , pardon me, senorita? The headline was true for the previous round and has nothing to do how the matches played out today.


Daniel Says:

Pretty clear now, semis between Nadal and Djoko would be the di facto final. Whoever wins that semis takes the title. Can’t see the other posing a treat, maybe Pouillie or Cuevas can sneak a set.

Clay allows time for both Nadal and Djoko and I even mention that he will find his foot on the dirt. No player can blast him off court like HC.


Daniel Says:

Talk to soon. Djoko lost the lead in second set.


HJF Says:

Just pleased Nadal and Djoker are on the same side, cant stomach the idea of another final between these two .


Van Persie Says:

Match of the day was quick over. And Rafa is back :)

Let’s see Nole now.


gonzalowski Says:

a drawn match, and still Djoko making nosenses, like that little running celebrating a good point…. what a clown


Daniel Says:

4-2 saving BP. This is THE game Djoko. C’mon and close ot out. And preferably break to qinn6-2. Too tense if he has to serve it out.


Daniel Says:

And he gets broken. 3-4 Busta serving.


gonzalowski Says:

Watching Nole (and Fed) sometimes I think that they are making the match longer artificially, with inexplicable mistakes, in order maybe to get a good (and maybe necessary) practice ???
I guess I’m wrong, anyway


gonzalowski Says:

not to think of illegal bets !!!!

what 2bps saved by Djoko, pfiuuu


Van Persie Says:

Rafa will get this Nole, if Djoko passes Goffin, of course.


Van Persie Says:

But a win is a win, so I’m happy he made it :)


RZ Says:

@VP- have another Kit Kat!


lakie Says:

Not everyone suffers from shingles forever. I know plenty of people who had shingles and they have been fine for years.


J.S. Says:

Another Day In Monte Carlo….Murray, Wawrinka, Nadal and Djokovic WOW!!!

Andy’s match – Andy repeated what Nadal did against Edmunds. Tanked in the 2nd set and I thought he had the win in the 3rd, he was up 4-0 (UGH the luck) – he just couldn’t pull it off, I was sick for his loss and he was not happy…a little irritated at himself to say the least! He grabbed his bags and left the court in 1 minute very upset!!! I seriously felt bad for him!!!

Wawrinka match – I don’t know what to say about him! Seems he really has trouble playing from behind….not that he gives up but maybe lost his confidence!?? I do not know much about him!
FYI I sit in the same seat all week and several Stan Fans sit in my section – they were very disappointed!

BOTH Andy and Wawrinka SHOULD HAVE WON THOSE MATCHES!

Rafa match – Rafa was on a mission and never let up! Every single point was better than the one before, my section of new “friends” all said Rafa would be the 3rd upset of the day…That didn’t happen and they all gave me high fives….SO FUN!!!
Oh and on Zverev – A German couple were disappointed in his attitude! He just broke one racket and geeez it was his birthday!!

Thiem and Zverev can go have a proper birhtday celebration since both are OUT!!! And, I do like both of them!!! They are good friends too – Cuties!

Djokovic – Novak got in trouble in the 2nd and I left when Pablo won that set. I see now that Djok pulled out the win but he wasn’t the champ you all know! He had the sun in his eyes and was being a baby about it although Pablo just had the same disadvantage and didn’t complain.
Anyway I am glad I missed the crowd blessing after his win!

TIDBIT INFO!!!
Pink plastic wine bottles – could not figure out what everyone was drinking – took me 3 days to realize it! Bring the bottles in your back pack and cute little plastic cups to drink wine during the matches! That’s what you do in MONTE CARLO!

Free Bus Rides in Monaco, just show your tennis ticket – smart of the tournament to get fans around for FREE!

If you have a ticket to the main court (Rainer) you cannot watch matches on Princess court, that requires another ticket! So I have no updates on Thiem, Cilic or Pouille matches, they played on the court I don’t have a ticket….ODD but that’s how they do it in here!

Peace Friends….Going to read all the comments about today’s upsets!


gonzalowski Says:

Nice reading from you J.S. !!


lakie Says:

Great ringside view for us thanks to JS


J-Kath Says:

Lakie: If they are lucky and don’t have a too pressured career Shingles can fade out in 5 years. But as Okie says – and we all know – Andy is a competitive athlete and needs to be in-form which is not conducive to getting rid of it swiftly. I would love to be proved wrong, and yes, believe he will keep trying -but for me his career is over end of this year.

J.S. Thank you again for such an insightful report. And big congrats re. Rafa’s win. May it continue.


J-Kath Says:

Why is this being moderated???????????????


J-Kath Says:

Why is this being Moderated?

Lakie: If they are lucky and don’t have a too pressured career Shingles can fade out in 5 years. But as Okie says – and we all know – Andy is a competitive athlete and needs to be in-form which is not conducive to getting rid of it swiftly. I would love to be proved wrong, and yes, believe he will keep trying -but for me his career is over end of this year.

J.S. Thank you again for such an insightful report. And big congrats re. Rafa’s win. May it continue.


Markus Says:

Nice reading about the tournament from your perspective JS. It’s a lot more relatable which it makes it such a fun read. Thank you!


Markus Says:

I have to take back and apologize for my unsavory comments about Andy’s performance since becoming number one. Most of the news about what ails him talks about his elbow problem due to shingles. I was a bit perplexed whether it was really shingles because the elbow is a very unusual site for shingles or post-herpetic neuralgia (PHN) in medical parlance. I decided to read more about Andy”s problem and found a news report which said that the affected area is in his buttock going around into the abdominal area. That is more in keeping with the areas affected by PHN. The scarring from the shingles when it heals traps the nerves and causes severe pain which can be excruciating and triggered even be the lightest stimulus, even light touch, or whiff of wind. So, one can just imagine the pain which rubbing against clothes as he moves around can bring. There is no treatment, only pain medications which don’t often work well. Some people recover completely. Some do not and remain in pain the rest of their lives with the attendant problem that comes from having severe chronic pain and the side effects of pain medications. I truly hope Andy falls into that group that recovers completely.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

JS, thanks for the great reports.

I saw most of the 3rd set for Murray. Don’t know if he was different in the first 2, but I saw no weapons, no offense at all. No variety. Just short moon balls back over and over. Seemed like his only winners, literally, were drop shots. Up two breaks in the third against- who?? and he loses. That’s the world #1.

The Rafa/Zverev match was phenomenal. The score line does not do Zverev justice. He played awesome. Rafa was vintage. He was pure Clay Monster. Man, he just looked so confident from the get-go. He did everything, and he did everything well. If he’s lost a step from the old days, maybe he makes up for it with variety. This was high quality tennis, one of the best matches of the year. Zverev will knock out some big names on clay this year.

Really hard to care about more than one match remaining in the week.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Just look at the quarterfinal draw!

This is a Masters tournament. 6 whodathunkits out of 8 players left!

Go home, ATP, you’re drunk!


J-Kath Says:

Markus: That was very decent of you re. Andy. I agree with what you say and like you hope he can recover…..otherwise, alas, I don’t see much career left.


Van Persie Says:

TV,

I would say more 4 whodathunkits , as Goffin and Cilic should not be underestimated!
!


Van Persie Says:

^^ sorry for the extra “!”. Was a typo


HJF Says:

The thing with Nadal is he can play amazing one day, and appalling the next, so i dont read much into just one match, assuming he and Novak get past their respective opponents and meet, i would still give Novak the edge, theres something about that match up that ignites a fire in Novak ….


AndyMira Says:

HJF….Very agree with u!!!..Ooppss!we might get our head chopped in a second by other Rafans because of this HJF!..Run for cover!!Hehehe..


HJF Says:

We are a small minority now ….


HJF Says:

However thats not to say, that we shouldnt look at these matches in isolation, rather than dwelling on past ones i suppose ….


Daniel Says:

Djoko a break up in third set. Let’s see if he holds and keep the lead.

3 straight three setters for him to face Nadal on semis, at least battle test he’ll be and with confiant with these wins.


Truth Says:

Goffin knows Djoker will choke so he celebrates.
Lol at the immobile feet and backhand cross court shot nonsense. Stupid Djoker.
Could’ve lost the match in 2 sets.
Goffin gave him a big lucky lifeline then Djoker chokes on break points when he plays well.


Daniel Says:

S$&&t saw that he lost even having game points to force the breaker.

Not the same player anymore. Starting to believe this is gonna be permanent


Daniel Says:

Oh, and Sean was right, Dioko didn’t pass QF


Miles Says:

Djokovic isn’t as physically dominant – whether it’s his diet or a chronic elbow/shoulder injury (or both), I don’t know.

Even in the matches he’s winning, he’s being pushed by players he was sweeping aside 2 years ago.

When does a dip in form become a trend?

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