Goffin Advances To London ATP SF To Face Federer; Sock v Dimitrov
by Staff | November 18th, 2017, 12:30 am
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He’s a week away from an all-important Davis Cup final in France, but David Goffin has work to do this weekend. The Belgian who stunned Rafael Nadal on Monday advanced the semifinals at the ATP Finals by trouncing Dominic Thiem 6-4, 6-1.

Goffin was down early in the match 3-0 but then seized control over the Austrian who saw treatment for a knee issue.

“I was a little bit surprised how well he started the match. He was moving well. He used his slice a little bit. He changed the pace. He was good. He started to play well,” Goffin said.

“But I knew that I have found solutions in the past. I knew with my return I can be really aggressive… I knew it was the key to come back. As soon as I came back at 3-all with a good service game, I knew that he was struggling a little bit with his groundstrokes. He was hitting too hard maybe a little bit. He lost his timing in his backhands. He started to think about how to hit the ball.”

Up next on Saturday is a date with Roger Federer. The Swiss has owned Goffin winning all six meeting including a beatdown in Basel last month.

“I’ve never found a key to beat Roger,” Goffin said. “Honestly, I don’t know what to do tomorrow. But I’m going to try something, something different, something that I’ve never done in the past. I will try to do my best to play a better match than in Basel.”

Grigor Dimitrov was on later in the day and busted up alternate Pablo Carreno Busta 6-1, 6-2. The Bulgarian has lost just 4 games in his last two matches ahead of a showdown with Jack Sock on Saturday.

“I wanted to keep on going with the style that I’ve been doing so far,” said Dimitrov. “I followed my game well and didn’t make mistakes. I think the simplicity helped me to play such a good game, to go through those matches in such a manner.”

Sock, though, leads Dimitrov 3-1 winning their last three.

“He is not an ordinary player. He really uses his strengths very good. I think he obviously has improved a lot in his game, played pretty much throughout the whole year, very strong finish of the year, won the [Rolex Paris Masters]. Obviously he’s riding on confidence right now,” Dimitrov said.

If Dimitrov wins tomorrow, he moves up to No. 3 in the rankings.

This marks the first time since in history with three first-time entrants reaching the semifinals, and the first time this event has had three first-time semifinalists since 2008.

Federer is bidding for a 7th overall ATP Finals title this weekend.


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234 Comments for Goffin Advances To London ATP SF To Face Federer; Sock v Dimitrov

Giles Says:

https://twitter.com/dimonator/status/931560170378944512
This is federer’s opponent today. ROFL
And yet they give him themore favourable schedule.


FedExpress Says:

Giles, cry silently.


Willow Says:

Seems some people think theres only room at the top for their own personal favorites, and its only them and their achievements that actually count, god forbid any other player should get any credit ….


Giles Says:

Rooting for Grigor. Hope he makes an impression. He’s playing well enough.


skeezer Says:

^am rooting for Fed, then Grigor, then Fed.


FedExpress Says:

Come on Roger, lets do this.

opening game, Goffin saved 2 BPs

Adv Goffin


FedExpress Says:

BP Fed again


FedExpress Says:

Missed a sitter on BP.

Should have made that after constructing that point beautifully


FedExpress Says:

4th BP

and saved

Goffin defending really well on BPs


FedExpress Says:

5th BP

Come on Fed, convert it.


FedExpress Says:

ALLLLLLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

too much variety from Fed

Breaks


FedExpress Says:

What a FH


madmax Says:

Giles Says:
https://twitter.com/dimonator/status/931560170378944512
This is federer’s opponent today. ROFL
And yet they give him themore favourable schedule.

November 18th, 2017 at 6:46 am

That’s right Giles. Of course they did. (Alternative Universe person speaks).

What must it be like when you have a USO champion who didn’t have to play one player ranked under 25 and wanting the ATP to be on clay? What a cupcake draw for Rafa.

Any thoughts Giles?


madmax Says:

FedExpress Says:
Giles, cry silently.

November 18th, 2017 at 7:57 am

Actually I think that Giles should scream, from a room with white walls. For a long time. Might help.


FedExpress Says:

Deuce after 40-15 on Fed’s serve


madmax Says:

Come on Fed!

Let’s go!


madmax Says:

Relax FedExpress. Please. Paranoia will set in otherwise.


FedExpress Says:

Roger looking sharp


FedExpress Says:

The crisp sound off rogers racquet. sounds heavenly good.


FedExpress Says:

Goffin on the board.


FedExpress Says:

Federer got lucky there.

There are many net balls from Fed this tournament. Problems to anticipate the bounce?


FedExpress Says:

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnn

triple BPs.


FedExpress Says:

2 net balls on 2 BPs

one remains


FedExpress Says:

What a cross court BH and then the BH directed into the open space

beautiful

up a double break


skeezer Says:

Fed with a beautiful DTL BH.
4-1 double break.


FedExpress Says:

What a volley


FedExpress Says:

Oppppppppaaaaaaaaaaaaaa on SP

lollllllllllllll


madmax Says:

It’s a beautiful sight Skeezer. That’s for sure.


FedExpress Says:

Game Goffin

5-2


Daniel Says:

Fed in business mode, 5-2 and serving for the set now. This one will be quick. Glad, going to the beach next, sunny day in Rio;-)


FedExpress Says:

Set Federer


j-kath Says:

Fed’s having a gentle stroll in the park. Goffin….doesn’t seem to have much variation – so predictable – have seen him play much better and with determination at Davis Cup matches – ah well….it is what it is – very boring.


Daniel Says:

Hope for a Fed x Grigor final. Gregor winning could be great for him. First won a Masters, than possible WTF, maybe next is a Slam.

But still think Fed wins it all.


skeezer Says:

Fed bagged the 1rst, now put the metal to the petal.


FedExpress Says:

Deuce on Fed’s service game


FedExpress Says:

BH more reliable than FH

Deuce again


FedExpress Says:

Goffin battling well


FedExpress Says:

BP Goffin


FedExpress Says:

Federer broken

unexpected
Focus Federer


Daniel Says:

Wrong shot selection this last point, Goffin up a break. Made this wakes Fed up and he plays more focused. Was too casual in a few points.


FedExpress Says:

3-0 Goffin


skeezer Says:

Yep Goffin is coming back strong in the 2nd. No walk in the park for Fed. Dowm 0-3


t4t Says:

put the metal to the petal?
How about put the potion into the motion?


FedExpress Says:

Good fast service game.

Now break him


Tennis Vagabond Says:

When a British announcer says “for Goffin” and I’m like, “and what?”…


madmax Says:

t4t Says:
put the metal to the petal?
How about put the potion into the motion?

November 18th, 2017 at 11:01 am

You would know t4t.


madmax Says:

TV,

Say it very quickly and it’s almost rude.

Come on Federer!


FedExpress Says:

4-1

too many UEs especially on the FH side

commentaor said something about the left leg of Federer. Hope it is nothing serious


madmax Says:

FedExpress,

Please.

Leave it. You really are the grim reaper and you reap what you sow.

I think this set has got away from him, so give it all in the third. Don’t know what else can be said. I mean, who the hell is Goffin?


FedExpress Says:

Good service game

4-2

Come on


FedExpress Says:

Goffin hits the FH very clean.


j-kath Says:

Skeezer: Still get the sense that Fed. isn’t bothered how this match goes – expect if Goffin takes this set we’ll see Fed. rip thru set 3,


FedExpress Says:

What a shank on BP


FedExpress Says:

5-2
now hold to serve at least first in the 3rd


FedExpress Says:

30-30


FedExpress Says:

5-3


Giles Says:

Maddddmax. I told you before, don’t ever communicate with me. I have no time for you!!


madmax Says:

j-kath Says:
Skeezer: Still get the sense that Fed. isn’t bothered how this match goes – expect if Goffin takes this set we’ll see Fed. rip thru set 3,

November 18th, 2017 at 11:13 am

J-Kath, yeah, well. It’s pretty tense here, but I expect this to go to a third and no doubt the expletives and profanities will follow from FedExpress, which is serving to really spoil this forum these days.

Hope that Fed can pull off the win in the third.


FedExpress Says:

3rd set in coming


madmax Says:

Go away Giles. When you come back, grow up a little will you.


madmax Says:

Go away Giles. When you come back, grow up a little will you.

Allez Federer!


Van orten Says:

Drop of level by roger . Goffin still looking scared of roger . He should raise his level soon and finish goffin off for good


madmax Says:

Come on now Fed and regroup.

Regroup and do your best. I think the pressure and the stress of this tournament, must be weighing heavy.


madmax Says:

Come on now Fed and regroup.

Regroup and do your best. I think the pressure and the stress of this tournament, must be weighing heavy.

We need twinkle toes back!


Van orten Says:

Four unforced errors in a row … mmmhhhh


Van orten Says:

Goffin playing match of his live hahahahaha


madmax Says:

Pressure VO. Come on Fed.

Come on!

Allez and go for it!


madmax Says:

Always happens VO.

Fed gets to the SFs and I still believe he can do this, but oh, he is making it hard for himself. Give it all he has got. Has to now.

No room for error.


FedExpress Says:

hahaha

federer mugging


skeezer Says:

Goffin went up a level in the 2nd. Fed has to respond in kind or Goffin will run away with this.


Van orten Says:

The good thing I really don’t care . I expect roger to raise his level and goffin to choke . If not then who cares …


skeezer Says:

mix it up Fed! Quit the grinding it out with the guy already!


Van orten Says:

Vamos goffini choke a bit more


madmax Says:

Wow. Could this be a wake up call for Roger.

Time for pace Roger, skill and patience.


Giles Says:

Great to see the cult squirming. LMAO


Van orten Says:

Choke choke choke choke


Van orten Says:

Choke plus raising level is the recipe


Van orten Says:

Still believing… but worst match of the competition so far .. strange


FedExpress Says:

Seems over for me.


Van orten Says:

It’s over when it’s over


squirrel Says:

Don’t say it, not ready for it to be over :(

My Sunday night would be overrrrr :(


FedExpress Says:

Sock Goffin or Dimitrov winning Atp Finals. Lol


FedExpress Says:

Bye bye Federer

have a nice vacation


Van orten Says:

So what fed express … who cares really . You cannot have it all . Still in this match . Expect one big choke by goffin and let’s hope roger will take his chances …


squirrel Says:

Come on Fed, break him!!


Van orten Says:

When fed loses while clearly not being at his best I don’t care .. we all know 100% goffin v100% Federer who will win


Van orten Says:

Micheal j Fox is playing well today


squirrel Says:

True VO, that’s the only consolation I guess…


squirrel Says:

Last chance now..seems impossible..


Daniel Says:

Goffin serving for the match. Didnnot saw that coming. Left after first set. Maybe he chokes a bit.


Van orten Says:

Stay cool goffin tomorrow’ one more match to go . Don’t kiss the floor don’t walk to your box etc .


Daniel Says:

Now Sock can win and both last two players to qualify will play for the title.

Huge chance for Dimi!


squirrel Says:

Sucks!!! oh well…


Giles Says:

Fedexpress. Cry loudly.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Spectacular play form Goffin. I’m gutted for Roger, I really thought he was adding another major, historic crown here, but Goffin took it away. He played inspired tennis in the 2nd and 3rd, and Rog just couldn’t get there.

Still, will be very bullish on Roger for 2018, much more than I was going into 2017.


skeezer Says:

Fed is out. Go Dimi!


Giles Says:

Wow! Who would have thought. Well done Goffin!


madmax Says:

yeah Giles!

Goffin, who beat Rafa! Who would have thought?


madmax Says:

Tennis Vagabond Says:
Spectacular play form Goffin. I’m gutted for Roger, I really thought he was adding another major, historic crown here, but Goffin took it away. He played inspired tennis in the 2nd and 3rd, and Rog just couldn’t get there.

Still, will be very bullish on Roger for 2018, much more than I was going into 2017.

November 18th, 2017 at 12:01 pm

TV, don’t be gutted. We have nothing to complain about. Nothing.

Amazing Federer.


the_mind_reels Says:

What a bummer for all of us Fed fans. I didn’t see the match, but it sounds like Goffin played inspired tennis the last couple of sets. Well done by him! Hope Roger can rest and recover well for January.


madmax Says:

It is an unbelievable result and you can only credit Goffin for playing the match of his life.

What to say?


madmax Says:

He did his best and his best was not good enough this time.

C’est la vie.


gonzalowski Says:

More difficult to Fed to take number 1 on 2018, great!


madmax Says:

Giles Says:
Fedexpress. Cry loudly.

November 18th, 2017 at 12:00 pm

FedEX, Giles is still crying at the loss Rafa had to Goffin.

Poor Giles. What a baby.


madmax Says:

the_mind_reels Says:
What a bummer for all of us Fed fans. I didn’t see the match, but it sounds like Goffin played inspired tennis the last couple of sets. Well done by him! Hope Roger can rest and recover well for January.

November 18th, 2017 at 12:03 pm

Well, these things happen. We have to be proud of the achievements of the past 11 months. It has still been a phenomenal year, just a stretch too far this time.

Enough of the wallowing. There won’t be any from me.


the_mind_reels Says:

@madmax: you just give him fuel to compare it to the Nadal result, though it’s true :) Don’t forget Nadal was injured! (And there’s speculation from Murray’s coach that Fed is too: he didn’t practice on his day off, which is very unusual mid-tournament.) Anyway, as you say, an unbelievable result.


Margot Says:

Well, who’d have thought it?
Well played Wee Gee. Can’t understand how he can play so badly against Gorgeous Gee and so well now.
Fed’s forehand was leaking so many errors, didn’t help any.
Tennis Vagabond’s favourite next gen, “Goldilocks on speed” is now picking up his award. How fabulous for him.


Giles Says:

K. A. R. M. A


Tennis Vagabond Says:

madmax, the whole season was a completely unexpected bonus as a Fed fan. Its piggish, but this time, I actually thought he had a good shot at it.


Margot Says:

TV: Shap being interviewed at the mo. Seems absolutely delightful.


madmax Says:

TV, I know. But not sad. Just one of those things now. And TV, when you reflect, could you ever, ever think that Federer would have achieved what he has achieved. It is titantic.

No one expected this.

As for childs, Karma, for what childs? If you can string two sentences together, then explain, because you really talk like a 3 year old with no foundation for debate whatsoever just a pure jealous streak where you love it when people lose.

I don’t get that. At all. Never will.


Giles Says:

Now it’s reminiscing time for the cult.
Have a blast. Lol


j-kath Says:

Who would have forecast Goffin in the finals….obviously not me. Anyway, adds another twist in what has been a bizarre final. Daren’t forecast who will win on Sunday – I’m bound to be wrong.


t4t Says:

Yes, madmax @ 11:04 am, I should know. I do not believe in Santa Claus.
I stick to my contention that Fed could have swept the whole season. But he and his underlings, that is the ATP/ITF, do not want close scrutiny of the “miraculous” powers of a 36 year old.
I am sure even the less crazy elements in Fed fanbase are relieved that Fed did not win today.
I am looking forward to 2018 to see how the miracle will act itself out next year. Maybe he will decide to win only Wimbledon and strategically lose everything else? I am sure he wants a La Decima.


jatin Says:

Proud of you Fed. You have given so much joy to us fans this year that we will never ever forget this season EVER.
2 GS and 3 MS at 36 is something which I don’t think anyone will do.
I don’t expect anything, just keep on playing as long as you want..
Thank you for everything….

Goffin played amazing, please go win the final now.


Van orten Says:

Australian Open and wimby as main goals for next year . The rest doesn’t matter . Hopefully some nice wins v Rafa again and that’s was it . Djoker will be back so it won’t get any easier that’s for sure . But come on how many winners he hit this year is crazy… no one near his stats .. best player when it comes to attacking tennis . And that’s the one I like


Giles Says:

https://twitter.com/trentonjocz/status/931916322497208320
Ranking points scenario. 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜


Willow Says:

Sorry Fed fans, Squirrel, Madmax, Jatin etc etc, heard he was suffering with some injury, well done Goffin coming of age beating Fedal b2b, like J-Kath difficult to predict a winner in the final ….


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Thanks Margot, sorry I missed it. Seems like a guy destined to be a fan favourite. Glad I got on the bandwagon early.


Purcell Says:

I’ve always been a fan of David’s playing style and I hope he goes on to win the whole thing. Redemption after that lousy call when playing Nadal earlier in the year and that unfortunate accident at RG.
I’m disappointed for Roger but having been there on Tuesday for the Sasha v Rog match, it was clear from Roger’s mumbling and self- berating, and his entertaining asides to the crowd that continued throughout the week, that he was not going to make the final. He looked worn out. It was a terrific match, although Alexander has to develop a wider range of shots and strategies in order to continue make significant headway. The atmosphere was the best we’ve experienced in many years of visiting and the crowd was truly international and extremely fair…..and……that damned clanking of crockery and cutlery in the boxes has finally stopped. We were very impressed with Jack Sock as his doubles play has given him finesse which was pleasant to behold.
Madmax, skeezer and all Fed fans, well done for continuing to fight your corner against the tide of name calling, patronising comments, attempts to bring Roger down by any means, and truly nasty, insulting and of course, childish comments. I hope you are more than happy with Fed’s phenomenal achievements in 2017. At this moment I can’t see this continuing for much longer but if it does I anticipate Giles searching his little heart out for anything…..anything…. to put a skeleton in Roger’s cupboard. Or are his fingers already worn to the bone?!


Van orten Says:

Gonna watch the final of Australia 2017 again …. just to feel good about everything hahahhahahhhaahhaahhahahahhaahah Vamos roger Vamos


Willow Says:

I Feel for Fedexpress ….


squirrel Says:

Thanks Willow! You’re like a bright light, so nice to have your presence here, so much positivity, instead of those spiteful G and t, who shall not be named..

Thanks my dear Roger for a fantastic season, I know you and us all are sad for the missing opportunity of grabbing that 7th WTF but you win some and you lose some, now go enjoy your well-deserved holiday..


Giles Says:

Purcell. Full of twisted wit as usual. Lol


squirrel Says:

Now it’s reminiscing time for the cult.
Have a blast. Lol

——————

Shit this does make me laugh, damn u


Willow Says:

Squirrel you too, it was a fantastic season for both Federer and Nadal, both fan bases have alot to be satisfied with this year ;-)


squirrel Says:

Totally Willow, Nadal as no 1 player after last year is such a sweet victory, one that you, AM and others should savour for as long as possible.

I’m proud of both of them and their time together at Rod Laver Cup. That end moment when Roger won against Kyrgios and Rafa leapt to his arms.. 😍😍😍

These two!


Willow Says:

And i think its safe to say that both fan bases have their fair share of fanatics, although i suppose it was always to be expected, that one fan base would blame the other,6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other, ce la vie ….


squirrel Says:

Yeah Willow, well said, c’est la vie indeed, just wish these posters would calm down a bit, hehe


Willow Says:

Thanks Squirrel , there are no saints in either fan base, wish people would lighten up a bit, its a game after all, whos your money on for the final, Goffin, Dimi, Sock ?


j-kath Says:

Purcell: Thanks for that “real-life” insight. I thought Roger looked lethargic most of the week – but still thought he’d win through to the finals. And today, I really thought he’d come roaring back in the third.

I note what you say re. Sock – but I still think Grigor has a deep determination to win – unlike I’ve seen him before – but, I was wrong before….we’ll soon know. Enjoy the rest of the tournament.


Django Says:

What happened? Didn’t Goffin used to have Rogers poster on his wall?


madmax Says:

Purcell,

You are Purrrfect in your appraisals of Federer. Purrrfect in your appraisals of Gollum too.

Hilarious.

Class from Federer.

Federer: “I’m very happy for him. He’s a great guy. I like him a lot. I think today he played so nice that he deserves to be in the finals. That’s what I told him at the net.”

Yes, Purcell, super happy for Federer’s year. Now though, really happy this is it and he can go and relax, at least that is what I hope for.


madmax Says:

Purcell,

I have been many times to the 02 to see Federer. In a way, glad not to have been there in person this time. You say, up close, he was shattered, looked knackered. I am really not surprised. Let’s see what is said in interview.


madmax Says:

Federer, suffering only his fifth loss of the year, did not use fatigue or injury as an excuse but added: ‘I had my chances and I missed them. It’s disappointing to end on this note but if |I look at the entire season I’m extremely happy. I can’t wait to play in Australia.’


madmax Says:

I love it when you cherry pick Giles.

It is as if you expect Federer to have all the answers, to know everything there is to know about everything and when he doesn’t it is some how kind of wrong.

Instead of being a closet fan of Federer Giles, I mean all the posts, the twitters, the pictures, why don’t you er – just ‘come out’.

We will wait for you.


madmax Says:

The round robin Purcell. So weird. SO Goffin loses to Dimitrov in the first round, 6:0, 6:2, then goes through to the SF and beats fed in three sets, Fed’s first loss, then Goffin gets through to the final.

Don’t get it.


Willow Says:

Goffin beating Fedal b2b in a tournament, not many players out there can boast about doing that, Delpo, Nole, cant remember anyone else ? ….

Im hoping Goffin can go on and win the whole thing now, i think it would be special after beating Fedal, no disrespect to the lovely Grigor as i like him too ….


skeezer Says:

Giles is juat part of the jealous cult. The repetitive attitude proves it in the posts.
——
Purcell,
Good to see you!


Willow Says:

Sorry i forgot that Grigor has to beat Sock to get to the final first ….


Daniel Says:

Wow, Dimi and another bagel set.

Seems he is not choking anymore. Hope he keeps this up third set.


Giles Says:

Hello skeezer. A bit late to the party. Where you been?


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Willow, good point. Goffin has joined a very exclusive club.

Unless I remember wrong, Goffin first made a big impression 4 or 5 years back when he took Fed to 5 at the French Open. He disappeared for a while before solidifying himself in the top 50 and beyond, but way back he showed he could run with Fed.

I still can’t see him breaking top 5, even top 8 for long, but, I thought the same about Ferrer once. And Ljubicic. And Kafelnikov before that…


Willow Says:

Thanks for the feedback TV, Berdych beat Federer and Djokovic at Wimbledon in 2010, but not Fedal b2b , which was quite impressive, but not as impressive ….


Humble Rafa Says:

Why is this forum so sad? Did anything happen?


Tennisfansince1976 Says:

@Giles you do realize that Nadal is sponsored by Nike as well?


Giles Says:

^^^ So?


Margot Says:

GG😍❤👐


j-kath Says:

Madmax: 2,29pm. Agree – I didn’t quite get it either…in recent years (apart from last year when it was obvious) – there has been multiple calculations based on was it 2 sets/was it no. of matches/at which point in the tournament did this, that and the next thing happen,,,,,- in fact I was surprised that Roger was so definitely OUT. Yes, it was semi-finals- but what about the other matches won??? Not that I’m favouring any particular player but it usually requires more calculation. I need Daniel to lay it out.


Willow Says:

Go David i want him to win the title now especially after he beat Fedal, but i wont be too upset if its Grigor, props to Sock too ….


skeezer Says:

“Hello skeezer. A bit late to the party. Where you been?”
Playing Tennis. You? Twittering?


j-kath Says:

Margot: Yes Grigor – alas – wee Goffin needs more than an “upper” for tomorrow…maybe a box of Swiss chocolates may again stir the giant in him….
….I actually prefer Belgian chocolates although it means buying elastic-waisted jeans…..


Daniel Says:

Madmax,

The round robin only works for first 3 rounds and to qualify the best. After it works like other competitors (world cup) where if you lose your are out.

If they had all 8 players playing all of them, there would be too many matches and will not have the excitement of late rounds.

I think the beauty of this tournament is precisely this unique format. You need to qualify in your groups, 2 places out of 4. Than regardless of what happened before, it’s like any other tennis tournament, lose and you are out. And its fare, because the one who wins semis and finals gets the title.The 2 most important matches.


Willow Says:

J-Kath good job you dont live near me my dear, we have an amazing chocolate shop, they are to die for ….


Daniel Says:

I hope Grigor wins and gets a Slam next year. Almost everybody gave up on him already and that would be a great turn around.


Wog Boy Says:

Was 36 years old injured, underdosed (believing it’ll be walk in the park) or his level of tolerance on magic potion became to high what happens when you over use it so the effect is diluted and you became immune on it.

I would say last one, expect sharp decline in 2018.


Tennisfansince1976 Says:

@Giles do I have to spell it out for you? You posted a link where Federer was asked a question about some possibly shady tax avoidance scheme by Nike. I assume you posted this to imply that this taints Federer somehow. Even if this were so any shadow that fell on Federer from Nike wrongdoings would equally fall on Nadal or any other Nike sponsored athlete. Or what? Do you think maybe Federer in his spare time cooks the books for Nike?


j-kath Says:

Willow – will tease out your address one way or another – so don’t turn away the lone wanting-to-put-on-weight strange female ringing your door bell and greeting you with a please-help-me-smile.


Tennisfansince1976 Says:

@wogboy if Federer is a chemically enhanced as you claim you think what? Rafa and Novak are clean? That is laughable. Some of their past performances are highly suspicious. Inhuman almost. If we learned anything from Lance Armstrong it’s that if an athlete’s accomplishment look too good too be true then. Maybe they are too good to be true. In this era it is good to be cynical about athletics. And i’ll Be happy to entertain your assertions about Federer resorting to magic potions this year if you’ll accept that maybe some of Rafa and Novak’s past performances were a little too magical. Let us us remember that Lance Armstrong wasn’t the only doper in Cycling. The Whole sport was corrupt at From the top level down most of the way. Armstrong just happened to have the combination of athleticism and world class enhancement. Others have pointed out that Nadal for one suffered a serious decline in form at right about the time that the biological passport came into effect on the ATP tour.


skeezer Says:

WB has been concocting false stuff on Fed since Novak got caught using the Egg.
Jealousy syndrome.


j-kath Says:

I remember now, Daniel —-but I suddenly said to myself – “are you sure you are right?”

Wogboy: You are living dangerously…you ready for guns at dawn?


Wog Boy Says:

Rafa and Nole were doing those “unbelievable” things in their physical and mental prime, 36 years old is doing the things he couldn’t do 10 years ago after taking 6 months off and as 36 years old, not quite in his prime. Far more reasons for every sane person to be very suspicious, doesn’t apply to cult members.
Are you trying to say that I and the others don’t have right to have an opinion?

Nole wasn’t cought in using EGG, which is perfectly legal btw, he said himself that he was using it.


squirrel Says:

Willow, I’ll take Dimi, what about you?


AndyMira Says:

@Squirrel…Sorry Roger lost okay?But you are right…he & Rafa really have an amazing year…Really really happy for them!


Wog Boy Says:

One more thing, it is the matter of access to certain things, quite frankly, Nole doesn’t have that access, 36 years old does have, particulary having giant like Novartis literary around the corner from his hous in which his father was high ranking employee, so was his mother. 36 years old is literally Novartis child, his parents wouldn’t have met if it wasn’t for Novartis.


skeezer Says:

Hahahahha another conspiracy. Conspiracy # 53 against Fed by 3 posters. Making up sh!t cause it just can’t be jealously and that the guy is just that much better than the rest of the field. Not just from 36 but in the totality of his career!
Fed never did the Egg, nor the diet before the gluten diet.


Tennisfansince1976 Says:

@wogboy I would never say you don’t have right to an opinion. Everybody has a right to an opinion. I simply disagreed in part with yours. I actually quite enjoy many of your posts at least those that aren’t mired in the petty squabbling which this blog unfortunately devolves into too often. I certainly don’t consider myself a member of a cult of Federer or anything like that. I am too old an cynical to hero worship an athlete. I just enjoy Roger’s game is all. Did he get some help in order to have the year he had. It’s possible although we don’t know anything with certainty. 8 Wimbledon’s is certainly good. Maybe like 7 straight Tour de France too good? What about 10 French Opens. If one thinks about it perhaps a niggling suspicion could arise in the back of one’s mind that that is maybe too good as well. Now as you say Rafa and Novak were in their physical primes back then but let us consider that when Novak when he came on the scene was an excellent shot maker off both wings, decent serve, world class return, top notch quickness but with stamina problems especially in the heat. Then he turns around that stamina in 2011. Not just improves it or makes it less of a weakness but becomes world class in stamina. Example Miami 2011 Final. He stands toe to toe with Nadal in a brutal 3 set match in the sticky Miami heat never once seeming to flag. Late in the third, in the tiebreak I think, Cyborg Nadal is even reduced to bending over sucking air after a tough point. Now perhaps that newfound super stamina was simply a a result of hard work but if one had a suspicious and cynical mind one might think 🤔 there could have been a little something more going on. And then there is Dr. Fuentes list of Spanish athletes on magic potions. Reputed to have some Tennis players on it. Who? Well we don’t know as the judge decided to destroy the list rather than release it. If you had a suspicious and cynical mind you might suspect a certain Spanish player who at times seemed more cyborg than human might have had his name on that list.
And as for access well you make a good case that Roger would have ready access to Novartis potions in he so desired. But Novak would not? In my opinion Any top level athlete can find magic potions if he wants them or they might find him. As to the egg 🍳 i’ve Not got a problem with that. It is as you say not illegal and not unethical and if that is all he was doing good on him. Maybe it’s just my problem. Maybe i’m Just afflicted with a cynical and suspicious mind.


t4t Says:

So something Fed couldn’t achieve after he turned 29, he achieves at age 36! 2 slams, 3 masters and a few other titles as well and he beats Nadal 4 times in a row all in one year. Highly suspicious. After 2010, he had just 1 slam in 6 years and now he wins 2 slams in one year when he is 36? If this is not suspicious then nothing is! Only the Cult, which has no use for facts, can believe that Fed has suddenly become better without biotech magic and help from ATP/ITF ( draws, schedules, court allocations, surfaces, balls….)
Anyway, the season is over and let us see what happens next year. Hope Djokovic and Murray are back in full form!
I am not really interested in the Dimi/Goff match but I guess I will watch it.
Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all the guys and gals here! See you next year!


Wog Boy Says:

TFS76,
I have never considered you part of the cult, I should have said that, my apologies.


jatin Says:

I have no idea why some people need to put down a certain player just to make themselves feel good. Can’t they just support their player and respect other’s who have done so much for the sport ? Or is it too hard to do ?

As for the claim that Fed didn’t win a lot of slams during the last 5 years which he is winning now. Well, let me break down his years for them.
2012-> Despite being past his prime, he won Wimbledon and got the world no. 1 ranking back for breif period.
2013-> He injured his back and was beaten by so many low ranked players in virtually every tournament.
2014-> He regrouped, changed his racket and came out with full force, he reached the wimbledon final and only a few points difference denied him that slam win. Novak was too good in the end. Despite that, he came super close of claiming world no 1. Isner beating him in 3rd round of paris masters didn’t helped his cause.
He went with 3-2 H2H vs Novak that year.
2015-> One of his super consistent year, reached so many masters final and US open, Wimbledon and WTF finals as well. There was only one who was better than him and he was Novak, who denied him multiple slams that year as well. Still he was the only person who challenged Novak through out the year and end with 3-5 H2H against him.
2016-> His back betrayed him again and nearly put him out half of the year.

So all in all, Fed would have been a solid world No. 1 for whole of 2014-15 had it not for super Novak. He would have won 3 slams in that period and multiple more masters, to put his GS tally to 22( counting this year).
HE NEVER WENT AWAY.
But some people won’t get it as they are blinded by hate.
Its very easy to accuse someone in the internet without any proof whatsoever. Some journalist accuse Rafa of doping in national television without any proof and she payed a heavy price for that as Rafa won the case. These Legend’s love this game and that is why they worked so hard to achive the impossible, not for some random guy who throw accusations all over the internet to try to make himself feel better. Its disgusting.
And what is this cult thing anyway ?
Most People love Fed because of how he plays this sport, how he carries himself and how he is so nice to everyone around him.
Even in my country where tennis isn’t that big, people would instantly recognize who Roger is and Come out in big numbers to watch him play ( ITPL). Its the respect he has earned over the years by working so hard and to carry himself as positivly as possible.
I guess its impossible for some to appreciate all the Legend of this game at the same time.

I request to all Fed and tennis fans in general to don’t even respond to their posts as they don’t deserve it.


Willow Says:

Nice, fair and balanced post Jatin ….

Squirrel ill take Goffin hopfully, because i want him to win as he beat Fedal, and i think it would be an amazing achievement, to win the whole thing ….

J-Kath lol, you have my word, and we share a birthday soon ;-) ….


j-kath Says:

Willow: The funny thing is: there are two other members of my family whose birthday falls on “our” day…..e.g. one is the new member – my nephew’s bride – plus co-incidentally all 3 names are similar to mine.

The tennis – It’s Grigor’s day I think….but I’m slightly hoping it is David – he may never have another stunning opportunity like this.


Willow Says:

J-Kath bloody hell, an expensive month then err day then, it also an expensive month for us a nephew, and a great niece, then christmas lol ….

Anyway im also pulling for David, i just think after beating Fedal b2b, is such a fantastic achievement ,where as Grigor no disrespect had an easier run ….


Giles Says:

TF1976. No, Fed is not cooking the books for Nike but the other way round according to that tweet. And why should we begin to assume that this applies to the other Nike sponsored players? At this moment in time it only applies to fed.
Don’t shoot the messenger.


skeezer Says:

^Another weak attack on the GOAT. Fruitless, mindless and irrelevant.


Markus Says:

It is only in TX that you hear very negative comments against Federer. His achievements, instead of being appreciated are often belittled. These are from people who are clearly biased because they are fans of other players. As such, such comments have no credibility. In the real world, when you go outside of these pages, Federer is treated with a lot of respect which he deserves by both sportswriters and true and unbiased sports fans. People who hate Federer and cannot handle that reality come here instead. It’s a fantasy world here for them. You cannot really be mad at them because they are merely trying to find an outlet for their frustration that this man they hate so much has and continues to achieve so much in his sport. This is a fitting place for them.


skeezer Says:

Markus,
Well said. I may add that they should be given little candy suckers with their first visit to tennis x also as a welcome gift to ease their pain.


Willow Says:

I Get that i really do, but its not as if Federer is the only one, Federer fans also attack the achievements of both Nadal and Djokovic too rather unfairly, why not appreciate all the other all time greats too ?


Giles Says:

Skeezer is the main culprit for denegrating Rafa and his achievements and that produces a backlash.


AndyMira Says:

Okay,okay guys!…Start from now on,why don’t we call it a truce?How about we start respect not only Roger or Rafa but Novak & Andy as well?How about we start posting only goods & not the bad about those greats?How about we start acting like a matured people instead of a 6 year old kids from kindergarten who’s hobbies is bickering over a trivial matter’s such as ice cream?


AndyMira Says:

Oh!I forgot to add…Get ready!Set!Go!!….Who’s broke the rules,they’re old & cranky & wrinkly!…Let’s see who’s broke the rules 1st!..That means they’re old,cranky & wrinkly..heh!heh!


skeezer Says:

Giles is the main culprit for denegrating Fed and his achievements and that produces a backlash.
There are plenty of posts to prove that.
Have a sucker.


j-kath Says:

Willow: Ye Gods and little fishes – Guess which tennis player also shares “our day”? DAVID GOFFIN!!!! Definitely we’ll have to root for him this evening.


Giles Says:

Skeezer it’s not worth having an argument with you. So buzz off.


chrisford1 Says:

2017 was a “blast from the past” with Novak and Andy OOC. Djokovic oh, my! Such a short time ago, was looking at Rafa with 14 and Fed with 16 , led in Masters 1000s, had 1 to tie Roger in year end championships. The odds of equaling one or both parts of Fedal in Slams, plausible in 2016, became daunting thanks to the 2 Slams each tucked away for more margin. If it ends up close, with all their play done, then you probably will see a quality vs. quantity argument. Who did Federer beat for his 1st 12? Who did Rafa beat? Who did Novak beat?

Lest it be overlooked – big congrats to David Goffin. He deserves this career moment.


chrisford1 Says:

Why there is
still a Big 4. and why this era will always be defined by the 4 and yes, it includes Andy.
Look at the Masters Titles in the last 9 years:

Since 2009,
1. Serbia Novak Djokovic 26
2. Spain Rafael Nadal 18
3. Switzerland Roger Federer 13
4. United Kingdom Andy Murray 12
5. Germany Alexander Zverev 2
6. Everyone else with a Masters win 1


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Amazing stat CF1.
I believe in the Big Four story, but I don’t think it is the WHOLE story. I think there is, for this era in history, a clear, well-defined Big X, where X = 1-5.
We’d probably just disagree on who the Big 1 (or 1 and 2) is/are.


Willow Says:

6 Of 1 And half a dozen of the other, he started, she started it ….


Tony N Says:

Let’s see Giles’s comments for what they are… vacuous.

Giles Says (very first post on this thread): ” (twitter) This is federer’s opponent today. ROFL. And yet they give him the more favourable schedule.”

Giles Says: “Maddddmax. I told you before, don’t ever communicate with me. I have no time for you!!”

Giles Says: “Great to see the cult squirming. LMAO”

Giles Says: “Fedexpress. Cry loudly.”

Giles Says: “Wow! Who would have thought. Well done Goffin!”

Giles Says: “K. A. R. M. A.”

Giles Says: “Now it’s reminiscing time for the cult. Have a blast. Lol”

Giles Says: “(twitter) David is the man! Congrats.”

Giles Says: “(twitter) Ranking points scenario. (same emoji x 8)”

Giles Says: “ https://twitter.com/ubitennis/status/931922459762180096 Arrogance to the fore. Lol”

Tony: GILES, YOU CONTINUE TO SPEW FALSE INFORMATION WITHOUT FACT-CHECKING. Your link was a twit from the Italian site Ubitennis that has problems understanding and translating English – yet they paraphrased what they thought the players had said. The link below is Federer’s actual interview transcript. In the press conference, Federer NEVER said “all the matches I have lost I could have won” as claimed by the Italian website. In fact Federer praised Goffin. So there it is – once again you posted another lie given your obsession with Federer and jealousy that Fed won more titles than your idol.
http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=136051

Giles Says: “Purcell. Full of twisted wit as usual. Lol”

Giles Says: “(twitter) Hmmm.!”

Giles Says: “Hello skeezer. A bit late to the party. Where you been?”

Giles Says: “^^^ So?”

Giles Says: “TF1976. No, Fed is not cooking the books for Nike but the other way round according to that tweet. And why should we begin to assume that this applies to the other Nike sponsored players? At this moment in time it only applies to fed. Don’t shoot the messenger.”

Giles Says: “Skeezer is the main culprit for denegrating Rafa and his achievements and that produces a backlash.”

Giles Says: “Skeezer it’s not worth having an argument with you. So buzz off.”


j-kath Says:

Chrisford 1: Many thanks for your clarity – much needed.

Willow: Did you read my last posting re. David and his day of birth?? I was looking for another “Wow” from you….grin, grin.


Giles Says:

^^^ Geez. Do you have any idea how ridiculous and stupid your post sounds?
You are obviously trying to fill the page again!!!


Willow Says:

J-Kath lol oh well that seals it then ;-), you also have footballers John Terry and Tim Cahill ….


Giles Says:

PS. Fed is on his hols, I suggest you do the same. You have been under a lot of stress.


skeezer Says:

Re: 2:13 post
Sounds pretty spot on to me.
Giles you been posting this stuff for awhile, it’s about time you’ve been called out on it.


Willow Says:

Is anyone watching the match ?


Tony N Says:

Wog Boy Says: “Was 36 years old injured, underdosed (believing it’ll be walk in the park) or his level of tolerance on magic potion became to high what happens when you over use it so the effect is diluted and you became immune on it. I would say last one, expect sharp decline in 2018… Rafa and Nole were doing those “unbelievable” things in their physical and mental prime, 36 years old is doing the things he couldn’t do 10 years ago after taking 6 months off and as 36 years old, not quite in his prime. Far more reasons for every sane person to be very suspicious, doesn’t apply to cult members. Are you trying to say that I and the others don’t have right to have an opinion?…

Every sane person should be concerned that you demand to have a right to false and misleading opinions given your jealousy with Federer.

Federer could do things in his prime that Nadal and Djokovic could not do.

At 2006 Rome Masters, 24-year old No. 1 Federer played SIX matches over SIX rounds within seven days AND the final was best-of-five-set (first-round bye for top players was started from 2007 AND best of three sets final was started from 2007 — making it easier for Djokovic/Nadal to win more Masters titles). On Friday quarterfinals, Federer beat clay-courter Nicolas Almagro 6-3, 6-7, 7-5 (229 points in 2 hr 33 min). On Saturday semifinals, Federer beat World No. 3 David Nalbandian 6-3, 3-6, 7-6 (229 points in 2 hr 43 min). On Sunday final, Federer had 2 match points in the fifth set against No. 2 Nadal 7-6, 6-7, 4-6, 6-2, 6-7 (353 points in 5 hours 5 min). In total, Federer played 811 points in 10 hrs 11 mins over three days in a row (this does not count his first three rounds of matches) – that is more time on court than he faced in the first six rounds of 2017 Wimbledon!

At 2009 Madrid, 22-year old Nadal played only two straight-set matches before his semifinal with Djokovic (Nadal had a walkover in the second round I think). 21-year old Djokovic played three straight-set matches before the semifinal. So they were both fresh for their semifinal. Their semifinal was only 245 points played between the two slowest top players, so they had plenty of time to recover between points. Yet there was so much whining that Nadal was exhausted when he lost in straight sets to Federer the next day.

What about the same year? In 2012 Olympic semifinal, Federer played the longest 3-set match in the Open Era (since 1968) against Juan Martin Del Potro: their 3 set match lasted 4.5 hours, 58 games and 366 points. Both Federer and Del wasted less time between points than Nadal and Djokovic wasted in their so-called epic 2012 Australian open final which lasted 55 games, 369 points (that was so slowly played that it gave Djokovic-Nadal a lot more recovery time between points than the quicker-played Federer-Delpo match). Unlike Djokovic and Nadal, who did not have to play another match, the older Federer had to play the Olympic final against six-years younger Andy Murray, who had easily beaten the unmotivated Djokovic in his semifinal.

Wog Boy: “One more thing, it is the matter of access to certain things, quite frankly, Nole doesn’t have that access, 36 years old does have, particulary having giant like Novartis literary around the corner from his hous in which his father was high ranking employee, so was his mother. 36 years old is literally Novartis child, his parents wouldn’t have met if it wasn’t for Novartis.”

Let’s test your lack of knowledge. Which specific Novartis drug gave Federer the performance-enhancing ability you claim he took?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novartis#Pharmaceuticals

Wasn’t Serbia involved in making performance-enhancing drugs for Soviet Union athletes in the past? Isn’t one of Novak’s uncles or aunts a high-ranking executive at a Serbian drug company? “(Serbia) is home to several, large generic drug makers such as state-owned Galenika, Stada subsidiary Hemofarm and Actavis subsidiary Zdravlje… Roche is one of the leading players on the market, with other multinational companies in Serbia including Merck, GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer, Sanofi, Novo Nordisk, Abbot, Janssen-Cilag and AstraZeneca. About 70 foreign companies have representative offices in the country, with the majority being members of the Association of Foreign Pharmaceutical Manufacturers in Serbia”
https://www.export.gov/article?id=Serbia-Pharmaceutical


j-kath Says:

Willow- I’m watching.

I see the pain in the derriere is back.
Where’s Wogboy when we need him?


Willow Says:

J-Kath little Davids looking a bit weary IMO


Willow Says:

Josh Berrys impressions are so funny and spot on lol ….


Giles Says:

Come on ffffedal slayer!


j-kath Says:

Willow: But Grigor looking a bit desperate…come on the 7yh Dec. lad!!!!


Tony N Says:

Giles Says:”^^^ Geez. Do you have any idea how ridiculous and stupid your post sounds?”

Of course it sounds ridiculous and stupid — the 17 quoted posts are all your posts! Finally you realize the value of your posts :)

j-kath: “I see the pain in the derriere is back. Where’s Wogboy when we need him?”

I see you’re still applying your double standards to innocent posters… while showing hypocrisy by encouraging, enabling and tolerating the nonsensical posts of giles and wog boy which disparage Federer.

Your hero Wog Boy is busy checking whether any of those Serbian drug companies produced performance enhancing drugs during the Yugoslavia/Soviet era.


Willow Says:

J-Kath true, so hard to say which way this one will go, come on David, lets do it for all those who celebrate a birthday on December 7th lol ….


j-kath Says:

Willow- A-men for wee David.
See U in the New Year…..Have a good one.
Ciao.


Purcell Says:

But surely J-Kath the real pain in the derrière is the one you’re appealing to. Amply supported many more of a similar ilk on this site. Their bluster is of Kardashian proportions.


Willow Says:

J-Kath love and blessings for a super birthday and christmas my dear, love and hugs, ciac XX ….


Purcell Says:

Hope it’s David’s Cup next week. Poor lad looks done for.


Wog Boy Says:

JK,

There is time difference betwbetween where you are and where I am which is around 10 hours, early morning here.:)
You don really need me, the more dave rights the more he makes fool of himself, so let him write.
He reminds me of the kids in primary school who were given task to write a poem and what they do first? They find four words that rhymes and then they write lyrics;)


Wog Boy Says:

^^^
should say “writes” no “rights”, though he is definitely not quite right, he lost some of his marbles since he left TX…not that he had all of them before.


Tennisfansince1976 Says:

@giles no it has nothing to do with Federer. It has to do with Nike moving a lot of its money offshore so as not to pay US corporate taxes which are 34%. Nothing at all to do with Federer other than that he is sponsored by Nike unless you have a link which demonstrates otherwise?


Tony N Says:

Wog Boy, of course you understand the net effect of the pure nonsense you keep posting. After all, the more pure nonsense you keep writing, the more you keep making a fool of yourself.

Obviously you keep accusing Federer of doping due to the role of certain Yugoslavians in the history of performance-enhancing drugs. In 1935, Yugoslav chemist Leopold Ruzicka invented the world’s first anabolic steroid — synthetic testosterone — that was soon used in sports doping.
http://www.kawasaki-m.ac.jp/soc/mw/journal/en/2006-e12-1/01_kremenik.pdf


Wog Boy Says:

As I said, the more you write the more you make fool of yourself.
Leopold Ružiča never lived in Yugoslavia nor he was born in Yugoslavia, nor he had anything to do with any of two Yugoslavias.
He was born in Austro-Hungarian empire, finished his education in Germany and guess whose citizen he was until day he died and where he spent most of his life (1917-1976), Swiss citizen, so everything goes back to Switzerland again, you are accusing Swiss citizen for inventing doping, no good, no good.
Saying all of this, I wouldn’t mind if he was Yugoslav (though such nation never existed), since he was great scientist and Nobel prize winner, but sadly, he was a Swiss and won it for Switzerland.
You are failing even in basic task that you are doing, googling and being Wikipedia warrior, signes of desperation.


Wog Boy Says:

I still have to educate you, saying that Leopold Ružička is Yugoslavian is the same as saying that Johnny Weissmuller is Yugoslavian, since he was born in Austro-Hungarian empire too, that became part of Yugoslavia after Great War, today is part of Serbia, and he was German anyway (lot of Germans lived in Banat area alongside Danube river).
Again, I would be more than happy to say he is Yugoslav (Serbian) so we can claim some of his Olympic gold medals and I could say that my favorite Tarzan was Serbian, but sadly he wasn’t, he was American of German origin. Leopold Ružička was Swiss of Austro-Hungarian origin, judging by the surname Czech.


Wog Boy Says:

Since I have to go now, knowing that you are digging hard through Wikipedia I have warn you that Wikipedia is full of incorrect informations, people are adding and changing facts the way it suits their purposes. You have to change your source of “knowledge”, but still, that want help you to find lost marbles, and judging by your comeback posts you lost quite a few of them.


Tony N Says:

Calm down, Wog Boy. Overdosing on your magic potion makes you unable to contain your pure nonsense to one post.

What I learned from your irrelevant example of Tarzan is this revelation: Novak Djokovic is really a Monacan of Yugoslavian origin (since he was born in in Belgrade, when in 1987 it was still part of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, but he now resides in Monaco to avoid paying taxes to Serbia).

Ružička was born in 1887 in Vukovar, then part of Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia (which became part of Yugoslavia after WW1), and he studied in nearby Osijek. The city of Vukovar was famous for the brutal Vukovar hospital massacre of 1991 (I’m sure you do not have to refer to Wikipedia to know about this). Today Vukovar lies adjacent to Serbia’s border at the Danube River. Most of Ružička’s family was Croatian (the Czech surname came from his great grandfather).

If one Yugoslavian could go on to invent anabolic steroids, imagine how easy it is for Djokovic to get his supply of the latest undetectable ‘magic potions’ from an entire country of ex-Yugoslavians.


Wog Boy Says:

I couldn’t leave you without Christmas gift for your biggest fan, you know which one, the cult supremo on TX, he loves it, best cooking channel on You Tube, one and only Almazan Kitchen:

https://youtu.be/8qvGTQjFwJE

C U around Christmas folks.


skeezer Says:

Serbist from Aus is best at ManFire food & Pljeskavica. No chance to argue about that.


Danica Says:

The city of Vukovar was famous for a lot of things unfortunately. Tony N, speaking about it, you should then mention both sides, not just one. Because, I could tell you quite a different story that you were not shown on CNN.


Giles Says:

Ahh, so WB has proved that Dave’s posts are pure bs.


Tony N Says:

Giles: What’s interesting about your twitter link is the pure bs being spun by you and a few Fed-haters. When we read Federer’s full comments it tells a different story… and reveals another of your misinformation.

Q. …could you sum up your whole season…”
Roger Federer: “Yeah, it’s been an amazing year for me. Been so happy that I was playing at this level from the beginning till basically the end, till today. So it’s been great. Really enjoyed myself in the process. I felt I was playing in a way that I also, you know, like – you know, playing forward, playing attacking tennis. I wish I could have done that a little bit more today. It’s kind of disappointing to finish on this note. But whatever happened today is less important than if I look at the entire season. With that season, I’m extremely happy… I had the best time of my life this year, so can’t wait to go back there (Australia).”
http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=136051


Tony N Says:

Wog Boy, you are blowing up a lot of smoke to evade answering my simple question. This indicates that your false claim is pure nonsense.

Wog Boy: “(federer) Was 36 years old injured, underdosed (believing it’ll be walk in the park) or his level of tolerance on magic potion became to high what happens when you over use it so the effect is diluted and you became immune on it….”
Wog Boy: “One more thing, it is the matter of access to certain things, quite frankly, Nole doesn’t have that access, 36 years old does have, particulary having giant like Novartis literary around the corner from his hous in which his father was high ranking employee, so was his mother. 36 years old is literally Novartis child, his parents wouldn’t have met if it wasn’t for Novartis.”

Tony: “Let’s test your lack of knowledge. Which specific Novartis drug gave Federer the performance-enhancing ability you claim he took?”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novartis#Pharmaceuticals

We’re still waiting for you to prove another of your false claims.


Giles Says:

Looks like you missed out a “ you know”. There are 3 “ you know” in one sentence. Lol
^^^^^^


Tony N Says:

Giles: you Federer-haters are childish. It’s a transcript of a live interview with a person for whom English is his third language. Here are Nadal’s interviews — knock yourself out having a laugh…
http://www.asapsports.com/show_player.php?id=12336


Giles Says:

^^^^ Nadal did not speak a word of English when he first came on the tour. David Mercer told us that an interpreter was called upon when Rafa gave his first interview. Don’t try to compare fed and rafa’s English speaking skills, it sounds ludicrous.
You probably went to a lot of trouble digging up Rafa’s interviews. LMAO. Do you for one moment think I’m going to read them just so you can make a comparison? Lol. Rafa has done very well with his English considering he knew
nought.
You are the childish one for sure.
You know.
Lol.


Tony N Says:

How many languages could Nadal speak when he first came on tour — just one? Why did Federer make more effort to learn and speak more languages when he first came on tour? Why has the multi-millionaire Nadal not spent more of his millions on poor English teachers to improve his English more so childish people like you won’t laugh at his English language competence, No? Why don’t you know that it takes 5 seconds to find Nadal’s interviews by searching for “Rafael Nadal” on asapsports.


Giles Says:

Rafa fans think his Spanglish is rather sweet.
Fed should sharpen his English, no doubt, and not give interviews using the same words multiple times in one sentence. “You know” 3 times really is a joke, no?
Rafa can speak English, can fed speak Spanish? No? I thought so. Lol


Tony N Says:

Giles: Your childishness, hypocrisy and double standards are rather sweet… and revealing for all to see :)


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