Federer Wins 20th Career Grand Slam, Beats Cilic For 6th Australian Open
by Staff | January 28th, 2018, 9:40 am
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Roger Federer continues to make history. Sunday night in Melbourne, the Swiss great won a record 20th Grand Slam title toppling Marin Cilic in five sets 6-2, 6-7(5), 6-3, 3-6, 6-1 and claim a 6th Australian Open title.

The win put Federer in rare air, as the only man to reach 20 and he joined only Magaret Court, Serena Williams and Steffi Graf among all players all-time to reach that mark. And at 36 and having won three of the last five Grand Slams, more might be on the way.

“I don’t have a special memory with the number 20,” Federer said. “Maybe if I have time to think about it, because thus far I was not allowed to think of it going into the match, because that’s exactly when things go bad, when you think too far ahead. I think that was a tricky one tonight.

“All day I was thinking, How would I feel if I won it, how would I feel if I lost it? I’m so close, yet so far. I think I was going through the whole match like this.

“I’ve had these moments in the past, but maybe never as extreme as tonight. Getting to 20 is obviously very, very special, no doubt.”

After running through the first six rounds without dropping a set, Federer began the match, which was played under the roof due to heat, rolling out to a 4-0 lead in a blink of an eye. Nearly untouchable, Federer took the opener in just 24 minutes.

Cilic, who had lost in horrible fashion in the Wimbledon final last summer, began to settle down and find his groove. Cilic’s serves were working and the 29-year-old began connecting on his forehand. He saved a key break point at 4-all with a second serve ace, then later forced a breaker which he won by taking four of the last five points.

Somehow, Federer regained momentum in a quick third set, and then went up a break 3-1 in the fourth. JUst three games from the win and back in control, it looked all but over. It wasn’t.

Federer’s serve and baseline game began to fade and out of nowhere, Cilic pounced taken the last five games of the fourth.

It was on to a decider.

After no long matches all week, was Federer going to feel like a 36-year-old?

With tension growing, Federer saved two critical break points in his very first service game of the fifth, then proceeded to kick it into gear to finish off the Croat in 3 hours, 3 minutes.

“For me it was really just trying to break his momentum,” Federer said of the start of the fifth. “Tried to serve well. Tried to get lucky a little bit. I think I was able to get that first game, at least get on the board. From then on, maybe momentum shifts a little bit, and it’s exactly what happened.

“I think experience helped me there a little bit, and also a little bit of luck, I felt like I needed a little bit tonight.”

Federer’s 6th Australian crown ties him with Novak Djokovic and Roy Emerson. He now has 96 career titles overall.

“Defending my title from last year, sort of the fairytale continues,” Federer said. “That’s what stands out for me, maybe not equaling Emerson or Novak. They had their own unbelievable careers. I admire what they’re doing and have done with Emo. Yeah, it’s definitely a very special moment in my life again.”

Afterward, the Swiss also addressed the late decision to keep the roof closed on Rod Laver because of the heat, which reportedly wasn’t as hot as it was the first week how the humidity increased the wet bulb globe above the 32.5C threshold.

“I was surprised to hear they had the heat rule in place for a night match,” Federer said. “I never heard that before. When I arrived to the courts, I was totally ready to play outdoors. They told me they were thinking — they think it will probably be indoor. Then they kept me posted along the way.

“Half an hour before, we got the word that it’s going to be indoors. For me, it doesn’t change anything in the preparation, to be honest. I was ready for either.”

Added Cilic on the topic, “They just came to me to tell me that they are thinking about decision, and they going to make the final decision just around 7 p.m., just slightly before the match. I didn’t mind to have roof closed, but it was a huge difference in temperature from having outside 38, then when you came in, it was like 23, 4, I don’t know. It was way cooler than I expected.”

Cilic falls to 1-9 against the Swiss, and 1-2 in Slam finals.

“Feeling a little bit obviously disappointed, which is normal,’ said Cilic. “It was a big battle, five sets. I managed to turn it around. In the fourth set, it was a big boost for me with the game that I played on 3-2 when he was serving. Then that lifted me a lot up. I started to play great tennis.

“I was hitting the ball great. I was just playing phenomenal. Then first game of the fifth set was more or less crucial at the end with having those four, I believe, breakpoints that I didn’t convert. Just a little bit tougher game, my service game next game. Just it ran away from me.”

Cilic, tough, moves up to No. 3 in the rankings and now figures to be in the mix the rest of the year.

“Played great tennis over these two weeks,” Cilic said. “I had tough matches, tough opponents, beating Rafa, reaching here a final, which is definitely amazing. Looking at my own game, I think I improved a lot. I’m playing great tennis. That’s really exciting for me for this 2018.”

Federer now will have a good month off before hitting the U.S. hard courts for Indian Wells where he could potentially be ranked No. 1.

“I’ve won three slams now in 12 months,” Federer said. “I can’t believe it myself. I just got to keep a good schedule, stay hungry, then maybe good things can happen. Then I don’t think age is an issue, per se. It’s just a number.

“But I need to be very careful in my planning, really decide beforehand what are my goals, what are my priorities. I think that’s what’s going to dictate how successful I will be.

“Exciting times ahead. But, no, as a professional, it’s what we do. But I’m happy I’m in that position right now.”

36 and going strong.


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185 Comments for Federer Wins 20th Career Grand Slam, Beats Cilic For 6th Australian Open

Michael Says:

One thing players like Rafa and Novak can learn from River is how efficaciously he plans his schedule.


skeezer Says:

Congrats Meastro, awesome display of Tennis. No matter how the haters try to skew your results, the all time GS record will remain. GOAT.
If I was Novak/Rafa, this last run of Fed would give me hope. The future can be bright, get healthy, get well. You can play your best tennis into your 30′s, adjust that schedule!


James Says:

20.
Its >16.
Which is >12.
That’s all there is to it.

20 and counting. 16 and counting. 12 and ???

Between Murray and Djoke, at least they have one good right harm and a working pair of hips.


Margot Says:

Whatever you feel about Fed this is an amazing achievement. Big congratulations to Fed and his fans.
And congratulations to Cilc who came to win today.
And…ahem…congratulations to me too….;)


Tony N Says:

USA Today: Roger Federer is the greatest athlete of his generation
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/01/roger-federer-australian-open

BBC: Ageless Roger Federer continues to set the standards with Australian Open victory
http://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/42852967


Tony N Says:

Roger Federer is the greatest sportsperson of all time, says Andy Murray’s ex-coach
http://www.skysports.com/tennis/news/15538/11226407/roger-federer-is-the-greatest-sportsperson-of-all-time-says-mark-petchey

Twitter reacts to the ‘greatest of all time’ winning 20th Grand Slam title
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-5321913/Rio-Ferdinand-Eugenie-Bouchard-praise-Roger-Federer.html


Giles Says:

“ River”? Lol


Madmax Says:

Margot,

Congratulations on your win too –

What anyone thinks of Fed? Well, we love him Margot. Love him, love him, love him. Win or lose. A fantastic human being.

It is an amazing achievement. That is for certain.


Madmax Says:

Praise kept flooding in for Federer on social media, with Brighton goalkeeper Mathew Ryan writing on Twitter: ‘Congratulations Roger Federer on yet another grand slam.

‘Number 20, a truly remarkable feat. An inspiration to us all with the way you conduct yourself on and off the court. A legacy which should be followed by all.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-5321913/Rio-Ferdinand-Eugenie-Bouchard-praise-Roger-Federer.html#ixzz55Upz7UnP
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


squirrel Says:

Congratulations Margot on your bracket win! So impressive. No one is even close, but I’ll try to give you a run for your money for FO, but it’s gonna be tough! :)


Tennis Vagabond Says:

GOAT.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Congrats to Fed and Margot, both incredible performances.

But also, congrats to me: I said before the semis, Fed was 6 sets from the trophy, and I was right on. 6 full sets.

There was a lot of discussion last year over whether Fed was actually better now than during his dominant years. I still don’t believe he is, but I think some elements of his game, in particular, the BH and ROS are the best he’s ever hit them.

Before the match, Humble Rafa gave the simple advice to hit high to Fed’s backhand. Cilic unfortunately took this advice on every second serve and was eaten alive. Fed could not hit these aggressive high backhands before last year, and it is transformative. There’s a reason he could reel off 5 straight wins against Rafa after Rafa had dominated him for years with that hit-high-to-BH approach.

Fed is now the greatest or tied for greatest champ at Wimbledon, Oz and USO, and tied for 3rd, I think, in French finals appearances.

Who has the math on Fed getting back to #1?

I know Skeeze and some other fans will disagree, but I want to see him at the French this year!


Giles Says:

Lol “ but I want to see him at the French this year”. Not gonna happen. He’s too much of a wuss.


skeezer Says:

LMAO he is not a wuss. He is smart. If you calling players wuss’s look to your fav who doesn’t know how to schedule, finish tournaments, and gets injured all the time. Fact.


Giles Says:

You are so stupid skeezer. Read your post again.


fred stone Says:

Congrats on your bracket win, Margot.
First try for me doing the picks.
Have you always been a Witch?


skeezer Says:

Giles.
Whats stupid is repeating the same ole hateful stuff on the greatest tennis player of all time, and twitting around stupidly for negative things on a player. That is stupid.


Daniel Says:

TV,

He is 155 behinds Nadal but he defends 45 pra in dubai and Nadal 300 in acapulco.

So, removing this points:
- Fed is 9560 pts
- Nadal 9460 pts.

If nadal doesn’t play Acapulco Fed will be #1 even if he doesn’t play Dubai.

If both play Fed wins and he is #1 even of Nadal wins Acapulco.
If Nadal loses before finals Fed will only needa QF.


RZ Says:

Congrats to Federer! Amazing achievement. 🐐
Watching some of the match, I was really impressed with his anticipation. In one point he gave 3 high balls in a row and the first two he read exactly where Cilic was going to send them. He was also impressive in taking backhands on the rise.


RZ Says:

And big congrats to our Tennis-Xers Racquet Bracket champion and 🐐 Margot, who did the equivalent of bageling the competition. At the FO she will be going for the non-calendar Margot slam.


Tony N Says:

Roger Federer Wins A Record 20th Grand Slam, Is He The G.O.A.T?
http://www.640thehurricane.com/roger-federer-wins-record-20th-grand-slam-g-o-t/

From Federer’s biographer Rene Stauffer: Roger Federer reaches for his 20th major title
https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/sport/tennis/allein-in-neuen-sphaeren-des-tennisuniversums/story/17743155


t4t Says:

Michael at 10 am
One thing Nadal and Djokovic should learn from Fed is the recipe for the magic potion. Also how to get the corrupt organizers to favor them.
skeezer
You are desperately trying to feel the spark of a Fed victory but despite downing several pints/bottles, alas you still feel flatter than an opened bottle of stale beer. Later you can share with us whether you finally succeeded and for the benefit of Tony N, you can share the number of pints/bottles.


t4t Says:

I think all the players should boycott AO unless it is agreed to have a transparent system of scheduling matches and closing the roof. It might be a good idea also for the players to form a union and do the draws and scheduling themselves. Also all decisions about balls and court surfaces should be cleared by the union. These changes may come about but too late to impact Fed’s privileges.


Giles Says:

Today was one big farce!


Margot Says:

Thank you my fans xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Next time I’ll make sure I do the main bracket grrrrr. Expect I’ll come crashing to earth at RG. The gods hate hubris.
Yes, I’ve always been a witch Fred, and I do a mean Tarot too. ;)


Madmax Says:

t4t Says:
Michael at 10 am
One thing Nadal and Djokovic should learn from Fed is the recipe for the magic potion. Also how to get the corrupt organizers to favor them.
skeezer
You are desperately trying to feel the spark of a Fed victory but despite downing several pints/bottles, alas you still feel flatter than an opened bottle of stale beer. Later you can share with us whether you finally succeeded and for the benefit of Tony N, you can share the number of pints/bottles.

January 28th, 2018 at 1:27 pm

t4t,

Have you always been such a bad and a sore loser.

It is not very becoming if you are trying to bag yourself a date online. Seriously.

You might want to try getting outdoors more often, you must terribly depressed in your dark room.

Oh, I think the door bell has just rung for you.

It’s Giles!

Enjoy guys!


Madmax Says:

jatin,
Daniel,

Makes me feel like I’m 20 again. Did I say 20?

Oh, I meant 20. :-)

It’s such a wonderful number. It is pretty unbelievable. FEEL THE LOVE FED. FEEL THE LURVE.


t4t Says:

Giles @ 1:47 pm
Lol!


fred stone Says:

Hey RZ, no bagel, I had the second round lead (for what it’s worth).


t4t Says:

Where’s Wog Boy?


Galcrazy Says:

Federer really is a marvel. A winning machine with the longevity and obviously such a beautiful player to watch as well.That his body is still in Grand Slam winning condition at 36 is just testament to his greatness.


t4t Says:

Did you notice tfouto and skeezer’s t3t? I feel flattered ( imitation is the best form of…)
At this rate, all the posters will rename themselves txt where x=1, 2, 3, …. and tennis-x would be t10t ( ten is x)
skeezer is t3t.
What would be your name madmax? t20t?


rognadfan Says:

Guys, it’s going to take at least another 2 weeks for these hateful losers to slow down on insulting other posters along with Fed, and at the same time play the victim card.


skeezer Says:

@rognadfan
I hear ya, and you forecasted their behavior before it happened!
Most of these posters are from the defunct TT. now tenngrand.,
All good, you’ll notice they only want to post sh!t on Fed, not on Rafa, Novak or any other player. Why? Their jealous of Feds accomplishments. All good,
How do you deal with it? I’s called W I N N I N G,
#20


Tony N Says:

t4t, drown your misery in cheap beer.

Winning is celebrated with La Maison Du Chocolat.

Roger Federer is the heavyweight champion of sports
https://usnewstalkies.com/2018/01/28/roger-federer-is-the-heavyweight-champion-of-sports/

Roger’s Haul: 20 Major Titles And Counting
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/federer-20-grand-slam-titles


Giles Says:

https://twitter.com/certinfy/status/957699788002283527
Here it is folks. The events of the last 2 weeks in AO including today.


the_mind_reels Says:

@t4t: this is largely a celebration of a great victory today by Federer, many people’s favorite player, and, if not favorite, at least a player many admire. Nobody cares about sad, baseless, repetitive inanity about “potions.”

Congrats to all my Fed fans today! What an amazing accomplishment!


Humble Rafa Says:

Apparently, the Arrogant One wants to play all Wimbledon matches under the roof. Such arrogance..


Jean Says:

It seems that, just as you can’t fix stupid, you can’t fix haters. Sad.

Meanwhile, I will join the rest of the world in celebrating Roger’s 20th slam title!!! What a great sportsman and human being he is, and we are blessed to be fans in the Federer era!


Tony N Says:

Sports journalist and historian Steve Flink: “But the most remarkable thing to consider as we reflect on the latest Federer display of greatness is simply this: the 36-year-old has now won three of the four majors that he has contested since the start of the 2017 season… But here he is, sweeping through history once more, treating every big win as if he had never done it before, competing with a quiet fury that is his most underrated trait.Only Ken Rosewall has replicated Federer’s men’s feat of winning three majors after turning 35… The feeling grows that Federer will win at least two or three more Grand Slam tournaments before he leaves the game as one of the most beloved figures ever to pick up a racquet.”
http://tennischannel.com/reporters/steve-flink/steve-flink-how-it-happened-federer-outlasts-cilic-for-sixth-australian-open-win


t4t Says:

Sad that the fans of rival stars have baulked at calling a spade a spade and actually congratulated Fed and Fedfans or chosen to stay away from this site. Contrary to what Amit claimed, these fans want to be liked. But opposing injustice and unfairness, though never easy, would have done them greater credit. J-Mac said what’s the difference between privilege and blatant cheating. The cheating at AO should not go unchallenged. Maybe voicing our protests isn’t going to do any good but not voicing them makes us complicit.


Daniel Says:

Also Fed improves his 5 set record to 30-20, with a 60% win rate.

Nadal otoh dropped to 19-11 at 63,3%, he once had a stellar record. But since 2015 he lost 6 five setters.


Rick Says:

Wow! Rooferer Federina won the Australian Indoor. The first indoor slam ever. LOL


t4t Says:

The fact that Fed is the only one in the entire tennis field who has never played unscheduled back to back matches in grand slams ( at least from 2007 when I started keeping tabs) speaks volumes about his privileges. When he was #1 , he played all his matches on the Center court. Later when he dropped in ranking, he was sometimes given one match outside CC but he used to express his displeasure. I wonder how many slams he would have won without the rigging of schedules in his favor and against his rivals. The rigging of draws has been deduced by experts using probability but unfortunately the blatant cheating has been ignored by the media and no one has called the organizers to account.


skeezer Says:

Funny how some make the indoor claim. Guess what, it’s an outdoor court, built for outdoor use that has a roof for inclement weather conditions. Its not an indoor type surface. So what is the difference with the roof? Did the surface change? No. Is it the air? The molecules changed? Does a Voodoo doll come out?
I think this is the majesty of the man. He can play on any court, any condition, and win. No whining. If even won in Madrid with Blue Clay which both Rafa and Novak complained about. Why? They didn’t win.
BTW Rick the man you call Federina has 20 Slams, ho many does Rafa have? Come again? Oh that is right, 10 on one surface, My bad.


skeezer Says:

t3t,
Start a protest website against Fed see how far you get. My guess is nobody cares about your personal obsession with Federer.
If you are scouring the internet for blantant cheating you chasing the wrong guy,
#20


skeezer Says:

@Daniel,
So Fed has 50 5 set matches in his career? Wow.


t4t Says:

I have no time to create or follow up on a protest website. Only Giles, JS and me had the guts to protest the cheating. I think I have said enough on this topic and I notice the other fans who were crying earlier about the scheduling have now vanished It is clear that there is no support for protests even on this website. I have already said whatever I wanted to and I am proud of Giles and JS. So now I am taking a break so skeezer alias t3t can focus on drinking himself under the table in a vain bid to feel proud of his idol’s cheating. See you in Feb or March.


skeezer Says:

“I have no time to create or follow up on a protest website.”
Dude ( dudette ). You seemingly have all the time of day to post on this site, don’t tell everyone you don’t have the time. ROFL!!!


AndyMira Says:

t4t…I guess u know that i was among those who protest the unfair scheduling & very biased favoritism from AO organizer’s in the 1st week…and i’m still stick to my opinion…much more so when i see once again yesterday the favouritism were displayed at their very best towards The One…

I’m so sorry to Squirrel & Amit whom i have a very good relationship & admire your fairness & balanced post everytime..but for the life of me i can’t congratulate u guys this time..For me,Fed wins was illegitimate…A win created from the help from a very biased organizer’s who clearly can’t separate professionalism & blatant adoration…Hope we still okay with each other u guys…


skeezer Says:

From the link @ 8:07

Laver says it best:

““For me, I think Roger Federer is certainly the greatest player that has come along,” Laver said.

“Yes, we’ve got lots of great players — look at (Rafael) Nadal with a record that says ‘I’ve just won 10 French Opens’, and you can’t sort of push that under the mat.

“But I think Roger plays is greatest tennis on the big occasions, on any surface.

“He’s stood the test of time — that’s probably the one thing that puts you in that category of the best ever. That’s one of the things that he has done. He loves the game, and everything he does around his life is somewhere related to all the great (things he has done).”


Markus Says:

Maybe they should stop playing the French Open on clay. It just favors Nadal too much.


Markus Says:

6-1 on the fifth. Open roof. Need I say more?


Markus Says:

Federer vs Cilic prior to AO: 8-1
7 Outdoor matches, Federer 6 to Cilic’s 1
Need I say more?


Markus Says:

20. Happy. Sour grapes make the contrast even sweeter. Shows me how 20 makes the haters even more bitter. They remain so until somebody, anybody gets to 20 also. Will it happen? Maybe. But until then: 20. Happy.


StarvingActor Says:

This never gets old. #20!

Just as I had thought, Cilic played for Wimbledon redemption. Great match. But Roger somehow pulls it through.

Keep soaring, keep flying Roger! Amazing champion. The game, the humility! On to 21.


Deidre Says:

But wasn’t the roof also closed for Cilic? Why was it only an advantage for Roger?


Dc Says:

Fed at 36 playing like 20.
What a great achievement, inspite of having to take care of his aging body, prioritising family , finding the motivation and will to win.

Thats the hallmark of a true champion !!


Amit Says:

AndyMira

Dear its absolutely ok with me if you cant congratulate me on this coz even i agree with you regarding unfairness done to cilic w.r.t. closure of roof! That clearly affected his first set play! Who knows what woulda happened if the roof wasn’t closed! While i dont think its fault of federer, but i certainly think the AO folks could do better than tilting a match towards a guy in such manner..


AndyMira Says:

Amit!….Oh my God!!Thank u thank u for understanding what i’ve said & meant!…I don’t blame Fed at all!..No!..I couldn’t care less if he won 20,30 or 40 slams!..If he win,then he’s sooooo deserve it Amit!…But please,do it the right way!….Thank u Amit!!…God!You’re AWESOME buddy!!


skeezer Says:

@DC
Nice post. Welcome back. Totally agree.
Diedre,
Yes!
—-
Note: they both should be prepared for roof open/closed. Should be nobodys advantage.


Thomas Says:

LOL at the dunderheads saying the roof being closed favoured Federer. If anything, it was the reverse. Cilic has a bigger serve and the hits the ball flatter with less margin for error than Federer. Having to battle the elements would probably lead to him being even more erratic and inconsistent in the match, and on top of that Federer is fitter than Cilic(even at his age) and is thus far less likely to wilt in the heat. I mean, Federer was only informed of the decision 30 minutes earlier just like Cilic, and the mixed doubles final also occurred under a roof(it occurred before the mens final). If Cilic was actually shocked at the roof being closed and wasn’t prepared for the possibility of it given what happened before the men’s final, he has no-one but himself to blame. Not that I think it matters, as Federer probably would have won easier in outdoor conditions to be honest.


Toilet Break Says:

The most bitter are Novak fans.

reason 1- Dude is injured and cant play to his potential.

reason 2 – His fans expected he will overhaul Nadal’s slam tally in year 2017 after his incredible run from 2014-2016.Poor guy stuck at 12 and its looks like since forever.

reason 3 – Nadal’s two slam wins last year.

reason 4 – They thought Federer will be stuck at 17 forever for their guy to jump over him in 2-3 years time (Reading @rate he was winning slams). Unfortunately that did not happen. Djoker lost early in AO FO Wimby 17 and could not compete in USO.

reason 5 – They though his comeback will be as awesome as Federer and Nadal and he will sweep AO18. But a relatively new guy thrashed him.

reason 6 – Federer winning 3 out of 4 slams played in a year which adds additional pressure on their guy to win at least 1 now.

reason 7 – they just love to hate Federer because the guy is winning…Outdoor..Indoor Grass court hard court fast court slow court…clay err…not playing ;)

Bring on more conspiracy theory that makes u feel at ease…You got nothing to defend against #20.

Love you Roger Federer…. Keep winning and let the haters burn :P #20 #GOAT


Dc Says:

I hope Nadal and Nole learn from fed how to play tennis like its supposed to be played i.e by playing offensive shots and learning all aspects of the game, i.e serve and volley, coming forward to the net etc.
I believe nadal and nole, both can win many more grandslams if they can adopt a more agressive game.if they cant learn and change, they will continue to struggle with injuries for the rest of their careers.


Goonie123 Says:

@t4t: well, you might be right with preferential treatment of organizers. But I think you make it too simplistic.

a) You cannot blame blisters on this. Why did Cilic have blisters at Wimbledon? Why did Chung get blisters? Because of heat or because of being a baseline player that prefers to run much more and by stretching far exercises a lot of pressure on his foot skin? It’s the style of the play that sets Federer apart from other styles – this effortlessness prevents wear and tear.

b) Would you agree that Federer is arguably the player that has most easily coped with any surface, indoor and outdoor? Even on clay he used to be really good. It’s also not that Federer does not stand heat – in fact, in the past he coped very well with the heat – while players like Monfils have never done so.

c) If you were a tournament organiser, where and when would you let the most favourite player play (favourite in the sense of attractive to those who pay for tickets)?

d) I assume you agree that it was not Federer’s fault that neither Djokovic not Nadal, Wawrinka or Murray were in shape: Nadal because he should have rested end of last year but decided to play nonetheless just for the points to ensure he got the year-end ranking. It was his decision not to rest! Murray: his decision not to have surgery earlier and rest. Djokovic: his decision to linger most of last year instead of taking a major break and allow healing. (Again: throw in bodily frailties that come from a certain style of play that is a stretch on the body.)


Margot Says:

The issue is quite simple: was Cilic told at the same time as Fed that the roof was to be closed? Was Cilic given the same opportunity as Fed to practise indoors before the match?
However, whatever unfairness has happened at the AO and it has certainly happened regarding scheduling, surely its the organisers who should be blamed?
Isn’t it too damn hot to have the tournament in Oz at this time of year anyway?


RZ Says:

@Fred Stone, congrats on your 2nd place finish in the bracket.


Bom Kelvin Says:

I have been following and reading this website for quite a few years. Normally, I would read through all the comments and don’t make any comment. But people never grow up and still childish with the comments they made against the players whom are not their favourite . Sometimes their comments are so extreme that they seem like sore losers. Nothing wrong with making criticism but repeating the same bulls&&ts is not so right.

I know they closed the roof and put normally Roger on the night session. It is not his fault that nearly the whole world love him. He did earn it regardless. So he would be favoured normally but he didn’t let them down. A champion can still compete and win on any situation or surfaces. Cilic should not have excuses because it is indoor. If he is a true champion, he will fight to win indoor or outdoor. Like Bruce Lee said Be water my friend. The ability to adapt to any situation is the true survival of life.


Danica Says:

Congrats to Roger’s fans for the win of their favorite! I know the feeling, enjoy and be happy.

However, for me, this tournament was tarnished by the unnecessary but obvious favoritism. Roger doesn’t need that. He would have most likely won even with the roof open. Night scheduling was also a major factor. Indeed, the conditions were same for both. But not everyone adjusts the same. Brothers McEnroe and Brad Gilbert noted that these conditions suited Roger better and that the closed roof mimicked de facto the indoor conditions where Roger had great success. So, although I consider him the male GOAT, as he is the most accomplished male player, I can offer congrats only to his fans here.


T Dawg Says:

They really need to speed up the courts at the US Open – it would be unfortunate if Rafa at 3 us opens was to catch fed’s 5.
I think they will speed up the courts at the US Open this year.


j-kath Says:

Both players were told the roof would be closed but only one player was given the opportunity to practise on that Court – for me that is the main injustice. Cilic was clearly disadvantaged in the first set.

Cilic has now spoken out against the “favouritism” and to be fair, he does have valid reasons to do so.

Would Roger still have won? I believe Cilic’s tennis is very readable – very little at the net etc. etc. and Roger is sharp enuf to read the placement. The probability that Roger would have squeezed out a win is likely but not a certainty. However, it is AO who is wholly responsible for the preferential treatment that marred yesterday’s final.

Before I stop posting again – many congrats to wee Margot and her huge success.


Margot Says:

Thanks Kath, and I agree, that is the main issue, either both practise with the roof closed, or neither does.


Dc Says:

Adding to the roof controversy, the rumor is that wimbledon officials grew grass on the Wimbledon clay courts to help fed win.


squirrel Says:

Hi AM!

Don’t worry I understand that you cannot congratulate us on our man’s win due to weird decision by AO organizers, to which I have also voiced my objection. However, not to congratulate Fed’s win seems to me that you applied it was somehow his fault….

I would also like to point out that Cilic was aware of this change prior to the match and was given the opportunity to practice indoor but he refused…

This is just to debunk some posts here saying that Cilic was blindsided by this decision and had to adap on the spot…


squirrel Says:

To j-kath and Margot, Cilic has confirmed that he was given the chance to practice indoor but refused…..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/tennis/100967089/marin-cilic-says-roof-closure-changed-final-loss-to-roger-federer


James Says:

Best tennis is played when courts reward offense and defense equally. That is not the case with a majority of hard courts, including the US open in recent years. Then you see players with fewer errors beating players with more winners. That makes it boring.

Courts should allow for all styles of play to flourish. Even wimbledon is now a baseliner’s paradise.

Nadal, to his credit, has upped his offensive game quite a bit over the years. But Djokovic is not in the same league. Federer and Nadal (in that order) are clearly the two greatest players ever to play tennis. (Ya, ya, Laver has two calendar slams, but it was all grass courts and some clay, no hard courts)


Toilet Break Says:

January 28th, 2018 at 11:46 pm

Toilet Break Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.

The most bitter are Novak fans.

reason 1- Dude is injured and cant play to his potential.

reason 2 – His fans expected he will overhaul Nadal’s slam tally in year 2017 after his incredible run from 2014-2016.Poor guy stuck at 12 and its looks like since forever.

reason 3 – Nadal’s two slam wins last year.

reason 4 – They thought Federer will be stuck at 17 forever for their guy to jump over him in 2-3 years time (Reading @rate he was winning slams). Unfortunately that did not happen. Djoker lost early in AO FO Wimby 17 and could not compete in USO.

reason 5 – They though his comeback will be as awesome as Federer and Nadal and he will sweep AO18. But a relatively new guy thrashed him.

reason 6 – Federer winning 3 out of 4 slams played in a year which adds additional pressure on their guy to win at least 1 now.

reason 7 – they just love to hate Federer because the guy is winning…Outdoor..Indoor Grass court hard court fast court slow court…clay err…not playing ;)

Bring on more conspiracy theory that makes u feel at ease…You got nothing to defend against #20.

Love you Roger Federer…. Keep winning and let the haters burn :P #20 #GOAT


skeezer Says:

Giles,
That’s what you get when you scour twitdom for Rafanatics: jealousy
#20


rognadfan Says:

No denying that some of the decision from AO organizers this year has been shit*y. Although, their criteria for closing roof sounds objective, I think they just acted like computers, totally ignoring the fact that the final was going to be under sunless sky (for the most part anyway). Temperature was high, RH was high but it was certain that it was not going to escalate any more. So, for a outdoor tournament that should have been the priority and they should have decided like humans not trained machines.

Similarly, they should have closed the roof in earlier rounds like when Novak was playing Monfils (and a closed roof would’ve upped Monfils’ chances greatly in that match, because he was clearly suffering (or some of it could be his dirty tactics like one he pulled off at USOPEN).

That said, people here getting mad that Roger fans did not even acknowledge that fact, is really untrue. All of you were absent in the ‘finals thread’ where, many immediately questioned that decision because it seemed ridiculous.

Now some are declaring Fed’s #20 is illegitimate because of this. That statement points to jealousy at best and pure hate at worst.

All the cry over favoritism is a lame way to show frustration that their man didn’t make it (Again justified on the grounds of hate and jealousy).
Because all of them are are there to make their living by playing. Players request for times to play their matches all the time and top-players are almost always granted that request.

Now did roof closure affect Cilic’s game? We know Fed plays great indoors but Cilic’s style of play is equally (if not more than Fed’s) susceptible to the conditions. Like the higher ball toss on serve, the way he pounds the balls on both FH and BH, and that normal inconsistency that his game has, all of it is benefited if the conditions are removed. If anything, the outdoor conditions might have resulted in even less competitive game. But it’s all ifs and buts at this point, things were great, Cilic fought hard. But he never really had chances bigger than Fed’s.


Humble Rafa Says:

To be fair, French Open offered me original Roland Garros clay to take home, build my own court and practice. But being the honorable tennis player that I am, I refused. It will be unfair to the other players.


Humble Rafa Says:

French Open also offered to throw in some French mental mi dgets along with the courts. I refused that also.


rognadfan Says:

Hey HR, was that in an attempt to settle down that lawsuit? If yes, you did good!


Humble Rafa Says:

Lawsuit was about integrity and money. The money goes to charity.


skeezer Says:

For 15 straight years Fed has only been out of the Top 10 once.
#careerdomination


Margot Says:

Thanks squirrel. Then there really is no argument about the final. The scheduling well……


Madmax Says:

Federer fans, get this.

Dear Roger,

I trust you’re well. The Australian Open looked like fun, even if the final got a bit hairy in places. I hope you have a safe journey home and that the jet lag isn’t too bad. Personally I always find it a little bit easier going east to west so maybe you’ll be ok. I guess it’s hard to know at this point.

Anyway, I’m writing to offer you an apology. In May 2016 I wrote you off in an article titled ‘Why Roger Federer will never win another grand slam’. In my infinite wisdom I wrote that: “The reality is that the exertion of winning 21 sets against the immense physical specimens that populate the ATP Tour will likely prove beyond even this most durable of 34-year-olds.”

As it has turned out, my prediction was about as accurate as that time Alan Hansen suggested teams can’t win anything with kids.

Many, many reporters now, changing their tune. Cannot stand the hypocrisy. Photos of Becker, of McEnroe, Pat Cash, now all lauding Federer, I take their comment with a huge pinch of salt. They turned their back on Roger in 2008, plenty out there to share, but will leave it to those of you who are interested.

And now? Now that Federer has proved them all wrong/they want a piece of the action.

That is pure hypocrisy, of the highest order. Really, I don’t know why they can even show their faces – actually, Boris Becker looking for his trophies that he can sell, to make some money because he has declared himself bankrupt. I find that really hard to believe, that he has to lower himself to make money from someone else’s successes, in order to get some cash.

Same goes for John McEnroe, if there is ever anyone who craves the limelight and wants to live on the shirt tails of a true gentleman, artist and absolute legend, it’s McEnroe. He, along with the rest of them, should have more integrity than to back track – they have really shown themselves up to be fake.

Another one is Barry Cowan; Andrew Castle; Greg Rudzeki, all saying Federer will never win another slam, that was 6 slams ago.

Poor.Judgment.


Madmax Says:

Stop complaining everyone about the roof. You are not tournament directors. They make the decision and if it is their policy when the heat hits 40 degrees, then it is their policy. Complain to them.

If it was Murray in the final Margot, you would not have said a word. Same goes for Rafa. It detracts from the fact that both men played a cracker of a match, it was unbelievable and could have gone either way.

I for one, fully expected Cilic to cause the upset. With or without the roof.

And who do you think the pressure was on the most yesterday? with that number 20 being touted about all day.

Roger.

And didn’t he do well?


Daniel Says:

Ref schedule, I think there are always going to be one of the top 2 who got favored. This year happedned to be Federer.

For example, from QF onwards they (top 2) only play night RLA.
And the first round as well. So, by the get go, 4 of their potential 7 matches will be night spots as they play on different days.

If they happens to be superstar as Fedal, guarantee.

That only leaves 3 matches where they can be schedule for day time or a different court: R2, R3 or R16. And that will depend on who they play. If is a local boy, as all Slams do this.

For example, if Federer played another match a day time would that make this much of a difference. The big fuss was because Djoko x Monfils (which us, tennis fans thought would be the higher quality match) was schedule day time in a hot day. The single hottest day in the whole 2 weeks. Somebody would have to play there.

By nationaly only we don’t have a “fair” system. If Majors were suppose to be complete fair, French players will never play Centre court at Rolang Garros as they hardly are in top 10 forpast 5 years or so, and have little to no chance. But all Aussie, French, American and British players with a decent or high rank will get the main courts in their respective Slams. If you are not born in one of this 4 countries, you already have a permanent disadvangte for life, or if you are born in oe of those, you have a permante advantage for life.
Murray will always have privilege in Wimbledon over Nadal and Djoko, on par with Federer due to his success there.

By the get go the tourneys are not fair. I always thoguht this is ridiculous, me being a citizzen of the world and not having patriotic duties. To me the world would be better withiut borders at all. But this is another disucssion.

My point is that we are always going to find flaws in “fairness” in sports, suiting our own agendas.

If the Djoko x Monfils match was not an extreme hot day, the disucssion will not got the proportion it got. And in nthe end, that spot favored Djoko who would sure last more than Monfils, as the outcome showed.


Madmax Says:

skeezer Says:
For 15 straight years Fed has only been out of the Top 10 once.
#careerdomination

January 29th, 2018 at 12:11 pm

Skeezer,

It is truly amazing. :-)

Still cannot believe it.


Madmax Says:

Daniel,

People are always going to complain when either their player has been ousted/whatever else might be the case; it’s so sad.

I really believe that over the year, things even themselves out – very fairly – just people forget and have shorter memories.


rognadfan Says:

madmax,

while their judgement now seems pretty poor, I don’t view them as the phony (at leas not all of them) one as you portray here. Their job (now) is to talk, over-analyze and re-anlyze the same over-analyzed sh*t on camera. That’s their bread and butter, so they talk. That’s why they make these prophetic statements and come up with some argument based on what’s happening at that moment. I don’t see much wrong with that. Take for example, in 2016 after loosing previous 2 wimbledon and 1 usopen finals to the same guy who didn’t seem to slow down a notch, many people wondered if Roger could ever be able to win one. For fans, that’s difficult and they believe their man can do it. But for the ones who has to talk, rather objectively just for the sake of talking, the most logical point to make is the one they made. Not the one, like the fans believe or want to believe, right?

Many of us can’t stand these commentators making at times ridiculous statements and commentaries but I have come to peace with them of late.

Also, I don’t follow what you meant by ‘they want the piece of action’.Sure, now some of them they will say ‘boy was I wrong!’ while others fake straight up by saying ‘I always though he would win more’, but not all of them.


Daniel Says:

Yeah Madmax,

All of this also, because AO advance their schedule by 1 week. In the past final used to take place first weekend of February, but now it is last week of January. 1 week in middle of summer makes a huge difference.


skeezer Says:

Super excited for Fed this year, could’t ask for a better start and #1 is within grasp. What is he going to do?
It’s been a great ride following this guy’s game, a pure unique ability that transcends the sport.
@36 and beyond, age can reach up and grab your speed from under you, and when that happens you are going to fade. Hope he has one more year left in that fantastic tennis movement he has been blessed with.
So Fingers crossed for no injury and continued confidence and smart scheduling. It’s been all gravy since #17, but the Cherry on top of the Sundae was #20, no doubt.


Humble Rafa Says:

So Fingers crossed for no injury and continued confidence and smart scheduling. It’s been all gravy since #17, but the Cherry on top of the Sundae was #20, no doubt.

Time to feed your cats. Cats are like goats. Like goat owners cat owners also must take care of them.

I know you are smart because you have cats. There is no need to randomly capitalize letters in a sentence. It’s so bad even a Spaniard knows it’s bad English.


Tony N Says:

Is 20-time major champion Roger Federer the greatest athlete of all time?
“Roger Federer is widely regarded as greatest tennis player of all time and one of the best athletes, across any discipline, in history… Federer’s incredible records and career achievements speak for themselves. That he’s also one of the most respectful, likeable personalities in world sport only enhances his genuine star power… For many, Federer will go down as the single greatest athlete of all time.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis/australian-open/is-20time-major-champion-roger-federer-the-greatest-athlete-of-all-time/news-story/2fbb1438f5380ef15ce26668855051b9

skeezer Says: “I won’t listen to haters who have no cred, but will take heed to a man like Laver:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/tennis/rod-laver-passes-torch-to-new-goat-roger-federer/news-story/1a3fad2bb90c89fe1dbd6a7e96afc740?nk=207f74204bbc60e60e18bc3468afa066-1517187921

Based on my estimates, had the grand slams been open to professionals before 1968, then Rod Laver probably would have 15 to 18 major titles and Ken Rosewall probably 16 to 19 major titles in an open era (most of their early amateur titles before the open era should be discounted since the top pros of those days would probably have beaten them when they were young ).


Humble Rafa Says:

skeezer Says: “I won’t listen to haters who have no cred, but will take heed to a man like Laver:

Laver must be proud to know you take his advice.


skeezer Says:

HR,

I don’t know what you thing is about cats, you seemed obsessed with them. You know I don’t have any but you insist I do. Maybe it is you who has them since you know so much about them? That it what I think. Just a heads up, since your memory acts like sooooo yesterday, I have 2 dogs, NO cats. Burn that into your Humbleness.

BTW It is nice to see you troll here for Fed. So admirable. You excel in infatuation. I give you 2, no, 20 brownie points for that. Maybe an all time record. 👍


Tony N Says:

HR, your obsession with kittens is growing…
“Rod Laver makes HUGE claim which will hurt Rafael Nadal”
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/911266/Roger-Federer-Rod-Laver-huge-claim-Rafael-Nadal-Australian-Open-2018-tennis-news


Tony N Says:

A few posters are whining and distorting the issues to create misperceptions there was unfairness, favouritism and injustice against Cilic. Such claims are ignorant, irrational and/or malicious.

Cilic would want to play indoors. Cilic is one of the top ten (9th) best indoor players among active players. Cilic’s indoor record (8 titles, 66.9%; 109-54) is relatively better than his outdoor record (9 titles, 64.7%, 328-79).
https://www.atpworldtour.com/en/performance-zone/win-loss-index/career/indoor/all/

This was the worst heat/humid situation (wet globe temperature blah blah) of the 14 days. Cilic eventually would have probably wilted and blistered in the humidity under Federer’s aggression and pace… and the match would have been over in three sets — after all his cooler night matches were better than his hotter day matches. Federer is the winningest player in the Australian Open’s entire history because he is superfit and thrives in hot conditions, takes away time for his opponent to recover — Roger deliberately has trained in Dubai heat for over a dozen years.

Cilic admitted he was given the same opportunity as Federer to practise indoors before the match — but Cilic foolishly declined.
Instead he idiotically chose to warm up as if it was going to be an outdoor match, probably in Hisense Arena.
(Q: “Did you have an option to practice inside?…” Marin Cilic: “Yeah, I did. But for me, I played during all tournament on the same court, practiced on the same court, so warmed up there. That was it.”)

Tournament organizers make the decision on whether or not to close the roof – it is not the player’s decision (so they do not have to ask the players which they prefer). The organizers kept both Cilic and Federer informed along the way on whether the roof would be open or closed. Cilic’s answers in his interview made it clear that he was told at about 7 PM, half an hour before the match (the same time as Federer), that the roof would be closed. (Q: “Did they ask you what you thought about closing the roof or not? In the end, do you think it was the right decision?” Marin Cilic: “Well, no, they didn’t ask me. They just came to me to tell me that they are thinking about decision, and they going to make the final decision just around 7 p.m., just slightly before the match. I didn’t mind to have roof closed… “)

To create the mirage of injustice, j-kath 4:57 pm quotes a misleading article that disingenuously leaves out the context of the question Cilic was asked. Always read the original interview before jumping to conclusions.

Given that the earlier mixed doubles was played under a closed roof should have alerted Cilic to the possibility that the roof would be closed.

Given Darren Cahill and Simona Halep’s stunt showing her getting a simple IV drip in hospital, the tournament’s chief medical was likely going to take the safe option of recommending the roof be closed. The Australian federal government’s weather experts made the official recommendations on the weather situation – which was the first time that the heat/humidity threshold was exceeded in the 14 days of the tournament. The AO tournament referee Wayne McEwan is very experienced, having umpired matches 20 years ago at Wimbledon and other slams.

Cilic has no one else to blame but himself and his team for not preparing himself to deal with all conditions that tennis players are required to play under.

When we read the Cilic interview, it was obvious that he was a sore loser immediately making excuses in his answer to the first question – even though he was not asked about the roof or why he lost the match (he was just asked “how are you feeling at the moment?”). The same colossal hypocrites — who criticized Federer for honestly answering questions about why he lost to Berdych at 2010 Wimbledon — are unwilling to criticize Cilic for being quick to make excuses about his loss.

Federer’s mistake? Roger failed to blame the tournament organizers for closing the roof given that the indoor conditions affected Rogers play in the second and fourth sets – and gave Cilic the advantage of an indoor match. In 2009 Wimbledon, Andy Murray was smart enough to blame the closed roof before his opponent Stan Wawrinka could blame the roof for his losing their five set match.
“Wimbledon: BBC denies it was involved in decision to close roof. Andy Murray criticised humidity on Centre Court following five-set win over Stanislas Wawrinka”. This was the first men’s match to be played under the closed roof in 2009 Wimbledon. Murray’s whining was disingenuous given he has the second best indoor record among active players!
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/jun/30/wimbledon-roof-bbc-andy-murray

Looking at the set statistics, Federer was clearly the better player in sets 1, 3 and 5. Cilic was clearly the better player in set 4. Set 2 was even, could have gone either way.

Why did the match last five sets? Because, as I suggested before the match, Federer did not want to thrash his buddy Cilic and he wanted a more entertaining longer match for the audience (given the semifinals were a let down). So whenever Federer went up a set, he took his foot off the gas a little and let Cilic into the match. However, with Cilic whining about the roof, it would not surprise me if their next match is a straight set affair.


T Dawg Says:

So, is Yacht Boy (Nola the New Orleans product) done winning majors?


Ahfi Says:

Conditions were so tough for Cilic that he won 2 sets out of 5 and started the 5th set strong enough to almost break Federer.

Wonder why nobody suggested to protest Federer’s difficult draw last year at the same tournament? Nobody protested his difficult draw at the US Open last year?

I’m guessing Federer was the only person who played night matches throughout the entire tournament. Everybody else played in the afternoon.

I think we owe it to each other to dig out truthful information before posting comments.

Do people listen to players’ interviews at all?

The last few years that Djokovic won so many slams, when quite a number of people were injured and not playing well (or not playing at all) nobody complained about Djokovic winning in a weak field. In any case, is it any player’s fault that other players are injured?


squirrel Says:

Thanks Margot but still, you’re right that the decision for the roof was so weird and skewed towards Fed ans it’s not fair, so as the night scheduling.

It is important that fair tennis fans like you, AM, Willow etc questioned this, and hopefully next year the organizers will do better…there should never be favoritism to any player.


Rennie Says:

The 606v2 tennis thread carries the post-match questions asked of Federer and Cilic about the decision to close the roof. Cilic answered a total of four questions about it, and the first of these is revealing. He makes clear that he was informed on arrival at the stadium that they were thinking of closing the roof and would let him know closer to the start time. He was given the opportunity to practice with these conditions in mind, and made the informed decision not to.

This was exactly the same for both players. There is no suggestion that either player requested that the roof be closed.

By the way, the ATP website shows that Federer has a superior 2017 win percentage on outdoor hard courts over indoors. It is close – and outstandingly good – either way. Perhaps he might have squeaked out a win over Cilic had the final been played outdoors. But it is clear that the decision to close the roof (a) was not his and, on post-2016 resurgent form, (b) was not made to favour him.

Over the years, several antagonists have queried the grand slam draws, the scheduling (whether day of the week or time of the day) and the favoured courts being at Federer’s disposal. And when he loses, such as the Wimbledon 2010 referred to by Tony N above, he has been taken to task for making injury excuses. Try as I might, I cannot see any extended discussion on this or other sites concerning the markedly tougher-looking draw he had this year (even if things turned out rather differently during the fortnight) or the fact that his half was drawn to play on the later day. Perhaps his fans are less inclined towards conspiracy theories?


Giles Says:

This dude is absolutely bonkers and deluded. Just read the last paragraph of his post at 11.37 pm. ROFL.
He claims the match went to 5 sets cos his 36 year old idol wanted a longer more entertaining match suggesting that Fed was in control of the outcome. Again ROFL.


Tony N Says:

Thank goodness the tournament referee had the experience and fairness to close the roof in compliance with the tournament policies given the clear facts of the situation and both players’ wellbeing. The Marin Cilic interview in the link provides the facts needed to answer any intelligent questions.
https://ausopen.com/articles/interviews/marin-cilic-28-01-17-interview

What’s favoritism was the tournament organizers giving in to Djokovic’s demand to schedule his match in the heat of the day so as to give Djokovic a fitness advantage over poor Monfils. Read TV commentator Chris Fowler’s five tweets on this.
https://twitter.com/cbfowler/status/953766555820552193

What is so weird is the gullible, quisling and deluded fans who disregard the facts in order to jump to conclusions and feed their fantasies. Now that’s bonkers.

Poor Giles, sounds like you need some of t4t’s kittens. ROTL. You’re not happy that my plausible prediction may have turned into reality, are you?


Giles Says:

^^^ You really are stark raving bonkers, like the rest of your cult.


Humble Rafa Says:

You excel in infatuation. I give you 2, no, 20 brownie points for that. Maybe an all time record.

As a goat owner, I can understand a cat owner’s perspective. You don’t have the use numbers associated with your so called idol all the time.


Madmax Says:

skeezer Says:
Super excited for Fed this year, could’t ask for a better start and #1 is within grasp. What is he going to do?
It’s been a great ride following this guy’s game, a pure unique ability that transcends the sport.
@36 and beyond, age can reach up and grab your speed from under you, and when that happens you are going to fade. Hope he has one more year left in that fantastic tennis movement he has been blessed with.
So Fingers crossed for no injury and continued confidence and smart scheduling. It’s been all gravy since #17, but the Cherry on top of the Sundae was #20, no doubt.

January 29th, 2018 at 4:40 pm

Fabulous words here Skeezer. I will vote for you for Sportsmanship award!


Giles Says:

https://twitter.com/christianhjorg/status/957653514905440256 ROFL
So many making a mockery of fed and the AO


squirrel Says:

Thank you j-kath for the link. It’s true that he wasn’t consulted about the roof, but Fed wasn’t consulted either. They were both just kept up to date as to the decision but neither of them had any say in that…so it’s still the same treatment to both, no?


squirrel Says:

@AM

Owhhh so cute, handshake to you too my sister!


squirrel Says:

@j-kath

See Rennie post at 4:33 am, I think it sums up well the situation.


squirrel Says:

@Giles 5:05 am

So was Federer, he was taken by surprise as well..so?

p/s: are you obsessed with twitter? I don’t think it’s a good source…lol


Giles Says:

Squirrel. Twitter is the best source. It’s all true.
The question is was fed taken by surprise? The answer is no. He was in consultation with the AO officials for many hours and some say he asked for the roof to be closed.


skeezer Says:

“Squirrel. Twitter is the best source. It’s all true.”
What a bunch of crock! Twitter is what started “fake news”.


squirrel Says:

I have to agree with skeezer, Twitter provides many misleading stories.

Giles: “He was in consultation with the AO officials for many hours and some say he asked for the roof to be closed.”

Cilic and Federer were kept updated by the hour leading to the match in the same manner. I’m sure this is just rumors, please don’t believe everything you read…


squirrel Says:

Owhh, right back at you AM!! How are surviving this week without tennis? It’s boring for me! :(


skeezer Says:

Trying to diminish what was the most superhuman feat of Tennis only makes you look more stupid(your words). Just rely on the facts. Fed earned his 20th all time record Slam. He has 19 others to prove it.
You should be questioning or trying to diminish Rafas last Slam, where he didn’t play anyone ranked above 25 to win the title. That is way worse than playing with a roof or not over your head.


Giles Says:

Here’s a clue. Fed practised indoors during the day and Cilic practised outdoors.


Giles Says:

My last word :
19.5


Giles Says:

Not Rafa’s fault if all the good players, including fed, were knocked out early.
USOpen 2017.


skeezer Says:

Well we clarified one thng so far, skeezer has no cats. Now lets clarify the other thing, there is no goat owner. The GOAT stands alone. There is no such thing as that player was beaten soundly the last 5 times they played when the GOAT was 35/36 years old.
What is more probable is HR searching for 🐠ing techniques on twitter.


skeezer Says:

“Not Rafa’s fault if all the good players, including fed, were knocked out early.”
So you admit he played “no good” players?
#faketrophy


skeezer Says:

Not from Rafa fans twitter squad, from the actual player:
“Q. Did you have an option to practice inside? He obviously chose that.
MARIN CILIC: Yeah, I did. But for me, I played during all tournament on the same court, practiced on the same court, so warmed up there. That was it.”


squirrel Says:

Giles Says:
Here’s a clue. Fed practised indoors during the day and Cilic practised outdoors.

————–

Because Cilic chose to practice outdoor!! For god sake, didn’t you read his interview??


rognadfan Says:

Giles’ Post at 4:39am,
I agree with ya on your first sentence. But then again that post took your own medicine; that is wrapped your one/two liners to suffocatingly long scribble and over you. That’s your nemesis from other end of the spectrum. ;)


Margot Says:

I’m going to have to hear from Novak’s own mouth that he asked for a day match, not via Chris Fowler.
There was spin about Rafa doing the same a couple of years ago, I think, and he subsequently denied it.


Tony N Says:

The first article was written for Giles, HR, t3t, Wog Boy and their gang of bullies (we can give u the few gullible, quisling Fedfans who gave up on Federer and swayed with the wind)

Dear Roger Federer: An apology for ever writing you off
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2018/01/29/dear-roger-federer-apology-ever-writing/

ATP: Federer Strengthens ‘Big Titles’ Lead With Slam No. 20
- Federer’s big titles are worth almost 76,000 ranking points (based on today’s ATP ranking points formula: 2,000 for a slam; 1,500 for ATP Finals, deduct RR loss; 1,000 for Masters 1000 includes non-mandatory Monte Carlo; no, Barcelona & Olympics are not big titles, no)
- Djokovic’s big titles are worth almost 62,000 points.
- Nadal’s big titles are worth 62,000 points.
Question: Who’s your DADDY?
https://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/federer-big-titles-january-2018


Daniel Says:

Toilet Break @09:25,

Now that made me laugh and for some fans it’s totally accured.

Add to that the new dynamics in Fedal HxH, which was a safe bastion for many for years, no longer has the same weight.

His increases Slam record, longevity plus the last 5 matches with Nadal, that shatterd all his nayseyers.


Tony N Says:

ESPN’s TV commentator Chris Fowler has a very credible reputation among sports broadcasters and has been on grand slam tv commentary broadcasts with John McEnroe, etc for well over a decade. The American Chris Fowler clearly stated in one of his five tweets that this info was given to him by the American Andre Agassi (Djokovic’s coach). Agassi has not denied this, even though he likes to give interviews.
https://twitter.com/cbfowler/status/953766555820552193

rognadfan: STFU you gullible, quisling half-nadal fan… jumping on the other side of the spectrum because Federer is winning now.


squirrel Says:

we can give u the few gullible, quisling Fedfans who gave up on Federer and swayed with the wind

LOL


rognadfan Says:

^^
You just showed your true color. Just filling up 10 paragraphs that no one reads in 1 post doesn’t make you the greatest fan you think you are. Don’t try to copy the haters’ model of being one of the pathetic bullies. Bring on the tennis goods when you express your fandom. Or if you can’t, be lighthearted. But I guess you are psychologically compelled to hate the fans of other players. I am not just half Nadal fan, I am full Nadal fan, if that makes you hate me.


Tony N Says:

3:55 am is a case in point:
“Thanks Margot but still, you’re right that the decision for the roof was so weird and skewed towards Fed ans it’s not fair, so as the night scheduling. It is important that fair tennis fans like you, AM, Willow etc questioned this, and hopefully next year the organizers will do better…there should never be favoritism to any player.”
LOL

https://www.gq.com/story/australian-open-2018-roger-federer-will-always-find-a-way-to-beat-you


skeezer Says:

^Here here. 👏


skeezer Says:

^To rognadfan’s post


squirrel Says:

@TonyN

I stand by what I said, I never blamed Fed or “gave him up” like you said, I blamed the AO organizers for being so wishy-washy. I know for sure Fed did not need any help, and did not even want any help, I believe in him and his desire to have clean tennis for all the players. I don’t know what’s your problem….


squirrel Says:

@rognadfan

well said!! really admire your ability to rebut! good job! :)


Tony N Says:

rognadfan Says: “You just showed your true color. Just filling up 10 paragraphs that no one reads… I am not just half Nadal fan, I am full Nadal fan”
You read it, LOL.
You ask for a response in your smugness, you will get a response.
Now stop polluting this thread with irrelevance. There are 10,000 other visitors to this site who want you to focus on the blog topic.


skeezer Says:

Tony N,
While I applaud your enthusiasm for Fed and battling the haters want to urge you to be a bit more careful in not battling every remark. Some here are not Fed haters but just voicing their opinion on the circumstance(s) and are fair posters. Been here long enough to know who those are.
Hint : Choose your battles wisely and enjoy the moment of #20.


squirrel Says:

Wise words from skeezer 👏👏


rognadfan Says:

squirrel,
I don’t watch tennis just to watch Federer my fellow poster; every-single time I watch tennis, I watch the way they play the game because that is in some way constructive to the game I play as an amateur (I am sure many do the same including you). Of course I support Roger every time he plays but don’t feel the need to hate all others.
Even here, I like to read and write things that just give some information + entertainment + perspectives.
Anyone can call me gullible, quisling,traitor or summon other adjectives, that won’t matter.


squirrel Says:

Yeah me too, rognadfan, I played amateur and therefore, really appreciate what all these players are doing, more so for Fed, but also Nadal, Djoko, Murray etc.
Yeah, I really like your posts, always fair and insightful, never hating on any player or posts, so keep on posting! :)


rognadfan Says:

Tony N,

All you got from my post was that I am a full Nadal fan. Good ‘comprehension’.
Heck I am a fan of his game, If you are not I suggest you spend some time in watching the game of tennis itself, not just in compiling the stats and accolades Fed has gotten in attempts to counter his haters.

squirrel and skeezer,
thanks fellows.


Tony N Says:

I repeat: Stop polluting this thread with irrelevant and smug remarks, after obviously reading my posts (despite the silly denials from rognadfan). You are a drop in the ocean — there are 10,000 other visitors to this site who want us to focus on the blog topic.


rognadfan Says:

Ok, That enough hate absorption for one morning.

On a separate note, when is Mr. Randall’s releasing his take?
I am kind of interested in reading the ‘x(number) things I thought about AO final and Roger’s victory’ that he normally writes after slams


Humble Rafa Says:

I demand every court I play be turned into a clay court. Yes, it must be outdoors now that you ask that question.


squirrel Says:

Yeah! Cannot wait for Mr Randall analysis! :)


Humble Rafa Says:

x(number) things I thought about AO final and Roger’s victory’ that he normally writes after slams

He is waiting on input from God himself. Or consulting a dictionary for superlatives to use.


Humble Rafa Says:

Before the match, Humble Rafa gave the simple advice to hit high to Fed’s backhand. Cilic unfortunately took this advice on every second serve and was eaten alive.

At an indoor tournament, these things don’t work as well.


rognadfan Says:

HR, You may not like to recall this but begining IW and Miami laste year you began serving to Fed’s FH (after going to BH resulted in a fate similar to cilic’s).

Every one knows, how you ware eaten then. So, what’s the plan should you reach similar point (I mean final against Fed) this year? to avoid being eaten? ;)


Willow Says:

Somebody really needs to take a chill pill, bullying anyone that disagrees with them, even fellow fans now, putting down everyone elses opinion, taking such umbrage with anyone that dares to disagree with him, putting down the achievements of other players, Federer doesnt need that, and i doubt he would want that his records speak for themselves, no need to make excuses for any of his losses either im sure he wouldnt, said it already congrats to Federer and all his fair and decent fans, hes the greatest tennis player ever, and not “thee” but one of the greatest sportsmen ever, but one of his fans needs to stop regarding him as some sort of god, he aint a god, and this aint the second coming ….


Margot Says:

Tony N is very close to doing something never before achieved on tennisx, uniting all the fans of all the other players and yes, even some Fed fans too. It’s astonishing. Keep up the good work, old bean.


rognadfan Says:

Willow @11:42am.
Great little post. Totally agree with most (if not all) of what you said there.
@Margot, there is high chance your words will have encouraging effect; you know, from the literal meaning of it.


Willow Says:

Rogernadfan thankyou ;-)


Margot Says:

rognadfan: really like your comments generally and the advice re necessity for lightness of touch is sound, but likely to go unheeded I’d say.
willow: now don’t you go be a spoilsport, I’m enjoying watching the eye of Sauron madly swiveling around, none is safe from his deadly gaze……
Where’s Gandalf when you need him? ;)


Willow Says:

Margot lol ;-)


rognadfan Says:

appreciate that. :):)


rognadfan Says:

Margot @ 12:17,
Forgot to mention same Here.


SG1 Says:

Funny to hear the critique that Federer benefitted from the roof closure. Federer is the most fit guy in tennis these days. I think it’s far more likely that the giant Cilic would likely have suffered a whole lot more if the roof were open and the heat poured in.

I do agree that the slams are supposed to be outdoor tournaments and closing the roof arbitrarily doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. But, they both basically played in neutral conditions and on a court that works well for both of them. It was a great match and I don’t believe it was tarnished by the roof closure.


skeezer Says:

SG1 voice of reason always.


SG1 Says:

It’s weird to be a Federer proponent these days but how can anyone (…objectively) not admire what he’s done the last 12 months.

Think about Borg. He wins 11 majors in a very short time frame and gets burned out (…and he was reasonably injury free). In the early 90′s, he decides to come back (..though it was a brief come back). He did not have the vision to even change away from the wood Donnay he played with 10 years earlier. Imagine if he had to change his forehand?

Now you look at Federer. At 34, he changes his racket. At 35 he changes his coach and then his backhand and improves his volleying. Federer maintains his dominance by continuing to evolve. I can’t think of another player that has ever done that.

At some point, Federer is going to lose that step we all talk about. But it hasn’t happened yet. He’s the best athlete I’ve ever seen. Period! This from someone who’s the biggest Sampras fan there is. And someone who has always rooted for Nadal. 20 slams…for a male player? It’s surreal. Completely and utterly surreal.


rognadfan Says:

SG1,
Agree. I made the same point yesterday regarding the effects of outdoor conditions on cilic’s game. I think his game would’ve suffered more if the roof was left open. Nonetheless, roof decision was pretty ridiculous despite the fact that there was an objective criteria in place for it. Safe to say, the criteria should have been more humanly, which obviously didn’t happen.
But in the end, the match was of highest quality bar first few games.


StarvingActor Says:

If I were to rank all of the 20 wins, the top 5 would be:

#5 2010 AO – Rog plays probably his finest final. Murray was a bit of a favorite here as I recall
#4 2007 Wimbledon – This was an epic final, bettered in quality only by the heart breaker in 2008
#3 2008 USO – Came to NY in a bit of a slump, this salvaged his season
#2 2009 FO – Career Slam
#1 2017 AO – Stirring comeback

Thoughts anyone?


Humble Rafa Says:

I am at peace with myself. My talent and life’s accomplishments are unparalleled. A man’s life cannot be reduced to a number but should represent what he leaves behind.

#humble


skeezer Says:

“I am at peace with myself. My talent and life’s accomplishments are unparalleled. A man’s life cannot be reduced to a number but should represent what he leaves behind.”
It’s nice your quoting RF.
#20


Humble Rafa Says:

It’s nice your quoting RF.

Every word you hear comes from the Arrogant One. The problem is you.

Also that sentence has a grammatical error. A Spaniard is correcting your English..bad, no?


AndyMira Says:

Squirrel 10:26am….YESSSS!!!….Beautiful post!…Agree with everything u said bro!Thank u for being one of a very nice & kind Fedfans here…God knows there’s not many!


squirrel Says:

@AM ;)


Willow Says:

Thanks AndiMira lovely song, lovely voice, such a talented lady, will be sadly missed :-(


Willow Says:

Wrong thread sorry folks ….


Berghain Says:

What is wrong with tx. Fed wins no.20 and they a cheap quick write-up? Get the guy at coffee break tennis to do some work.
Btw for Fed heads – check out his channel.


skeezer Says:

@Berghain
I here ya. And what about “who’s got the funk/trunk” @ the home page? Hasn’t been updated since…………….Hopman cup?
Apparently Fed has won so many it is not newsworthy anymore…

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