Serena Williams Defaulted, Clijsters Advances to US Open Final Against Wozniacki
by Sean Randall | September 12th, 2009, 11:06 pm
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Only at the US Open.

A few years ago it was some shoddy and controversial line calls involving a Serena Williams-Jennifer Capriati match which helped lead to the challenge review system we have today. Moments ago in her US Open semifinal against Kim Clijsters, Serena was part of controversy again, this time for getting defaulted for cursing out a lineswoman who had just levied a foot fault against her. 

The end result is Kim Clijsters lands into the US Open final defeating Serena 6-4, 7-5 without having won matchpoint. Talk about totally bizarre!

Serving 5-6, 15-30 and down a set Serena was called for a foot fault on her second serve. A disgusted Serena chewed out the lineswoman who made the call. Once Serena finished her tirade the lineswoman reported to the chair umpire, Louise Engzell, of the what Serena had said, which apparently fell under verbal abuse – an F bomb perhaps?

And since Serena already incurred a warning for smashing her racquet at the end of the first set, any subsequent warning by rule would lead to a point penalty.

Unfortunately for Serena the verbal abuse warning she received for tearing into the lineswoman came on match point, meaning she loses, Clijsters wins and if you watched the match – which actually seemed to be getting better as it went on – we all are left feeling a little empty inside.

For me, I am shocked!

“No I didn’t think I would get a point penalty. I didn’t think about it,” said a nonplussed Serena afterward. “Today was a tough day, I didn’t play my best. I felt I had more errors today then all my matches combined.”

Strange stuff and I’m sure this incident will have my reverberations to come. I am stunned to say the least at the ending of this match!

To note, Serena and Venus are scheduled to play Monday in the women’s doubles final so Serena’s not out of the US Open just yet.

In the other semifinal Caroline Wozniacki took care of Belgian surprise Yanina Wickmayer 6-3, 6-3. Wozniacki, who is playing in her first career Slam final and Clijsters, winner of 13 straight US Open matches, will play for the women’s title 9pm Sunday night on ESPN2.

To add in retrospect, based on what happened the chair umpire was just following the rules if Serena had in fact abused the lineswoman. Again, bad luck that it happened on match point but if Serena really said some nasty things then she has to get hit with the warning, which in this case led to a point penalty on match point.

So Serena has only herself to blame for not keeping her composure at the most crucial of moments.

The other question is was it really a foot fault? The CBS angle was inconclusive (to me) and I have to wonder that given the situation if that’s one of those calls you simply let go unless it’s clearly flagrant – similar to football and basketball games where the refs often “let the player’s play” at the end of important games. In this case, however, the refs followed the letter of the law assuming Serena did foot fault and she did curse the lineswoman.

Regardless, this incident will leave quite a stain on the match, the tournament, the sport and on Serena Williams for some time.


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429 Comments for Serena Williams Defaulted, Clijsters Advances to US Open Final Against Wozniacki

Andrew Miller Says:

Clijsters deserved a chance to win that match!


DC Says:

Serena is playing for the US Open. This was a huge point from Serena, who has come back from match point to win many matches. You don’t call a foot fault here unless it is very obvious. And, there was NO foot fault to call. Serena was upset. She has every right to be. I’ve never seen a major championship decided on something like this … not with all of the arguing and hollering that I’ve heard from other top players in the past. And I’ve NEVER seen a foot fault called on such an important point. Any competitor would understand. Any human should understand. It was sickening to see the champion who put so much work into defending her title lose on poor judgement by a line judge.


lovetennis Says:

I think Serena didn’t want to lose, hence the profanity. Pity it spoiled Kim’s win.


Brian Says:

Serena is the most obnoxious “champion” ever..and I honestly believe she does a dis-service to the sport of tennis.


Catrice Says:

I totally agree with you Andrew, it was a very unsatisfying end, to what had been up until then a very good contest. While I do no condone Serena’s actions, I do understand why she did it. That was in no way shape or form a foot fault!


Jay Smith Says:

Serena should be banned for 5 years for her unsportsmanlike behavior.
I understand she wanted to win and wanted it real badly but the way she went after the linesperson was not called for , and has no place on our tennis courts ( or in our society for that matter).


NachoF Says:

Can you challenge a foot fault call?


Clint Says:

Serena said the f’word multiple times and verbally threatened the lineswoman. This sort of behavior is unwarranted. It was her second code violation after smashing her racquet in the first set. So obviously she was docked a point and she ends up losing the game and the possibility at a spot in the US Open Final. Tough luck, you don’t play by the rules, you lose! Enough said.


george Says:

Serena insulted every tennis fan badly by using the F word and swearing like this. AND then even worse by not apologizing immediately in the press conference.
The foot fault call might’ve been excessive or even flat wrong, but the fans heard her and they booed. Hard. An apology goes a long way in this town and she lost this oportunity and the crowd tonight and for a long time to come.
for all John McEnroe’s non-sense, he’s never said he’d shove anything down a linesman’s throat, with or without an F bomb emphasis.


Andrew Miller Says:

I think it was an awful call – foot fault. That said, Serena Williams totally lost it at that point – and that was surprising. Sure, the call was wrong. And what Serena Williams did was wrong – she knew it was wrong.


something Says:

it makes me so angry that serena robbed kim clijsters of her victory. whether the foot fault was called incorrectly or not, serena’s temper tantrum is what ended the match. clijsters would surely have beaten serena the way they both were playing. and the press conference? what a load of bs. serena is responsible for her actions, not some line judge, wrong or not. “i have already moved on.” you’ve moved on and denied a worthy champion the deserved pleasure of beating you. what a brat.


nancy Says:

what a disappointment. first, cbs didn’t start coverage when the match started. they deemed it more important to finish airing some lame rerun. there should definitely be a foot fault challenge. until today i thought discussion about a roof for ashe was cowardly. tennis is an outdoor sport. now i’m not so sure.


tommy Says:

There was indeed a footfault and it needs to be called. She had been footfaulting all tournament long. Line judges are trained to call it as they see it, regardless of the score.

What got Serena a point penalty was what she said to the line judge- “I awear I will take this f****** ball and throw it down your f****** throat, I swear to God”. All this while pointing at her with her racquet in a menacing manner. The umpire then called the line judge over to ask her what was said. The threatened the line judge. It was match point and she was deducted another point, hence losing the match.
In her post game news conference, she said she “couldn’t remember” what she had said.
The microphones clearly picked it up and even the fans booed her because the heard what she said.


Leslie Says:

Serena showed her true colors. She is an arrogant spoiled brat. We are tired of her never complimenting her opponants when they beat her. She is always whining excuses. She got BEAT. Pure and Simple.
I will NEVER buy anything Nike again, until they drop their endorsement of her. She is a vulgur witch.


Andrew Miller Says:

Sure, the lines-person shouldnt have called the foot-fault. And Serena Williams should not have said what she said – there was another way to challenge the call (get the ump involved). I am sure that the chair ump would have over-ruled and given Serena her 2nd serve chance back, or at least calmed Serena down.


Nancy Says:

I don’t play tennis. So you’re saying it’s understandable that she’d tell the judge that she’d ram the F’ing racket down her F’ing throat?


Jay Says:

This is the 2nd time at the US Open that a contoversial call has happened to Serena-Amazing how other tennis players can lose their cool especially on the men’s side and nothing ever happens. If I were Venus and Serena I would just retire they have already proven themselves-they came into the sport and dominated!!!!
Her own country did it to her again!!!!


Andrew Miller Says:

That said, this was probably worst for Kim Clijsters, who should have been given a chance to win the match fair and square. Kim Clijsters certainly earned the chance to be up 15-40 with 2 match points!


Catrice Says:

No, you can not challenge a foot fault.


nancy Says:

also, i wonder if this will affect serena’s sponsorships. phelps was dropped after being photographed with a bong. i understand serena’s anger at the mis-call, but her behavior was unsportswomanlike.


Andrew Miller Says:

Serena Williams did this to herself: she didnt win the first set, she was not winning the 2nd set, she knows the rules and she got herself defaulted!

Serena is a great champion, and she made a mistake, and paid the price – the rules are the same for every player. Other players HAVE been defaulted from matches before, and many have lost point penalties. This is nothing new.


Donna Says:

People in the stands or watching on tv never notice foot faults as they aren’t trained and are not staring at the feet while players are serving. Those writing in saying there was NO footfault have no justification for saying that.

Then, instead of just taking it in stride and continuing playing, Serene decided to harangue the lineswoman. When players usually argue a call, it has to be with the umpire, NOT the linesman.


Andrew Miller Says:

The men’s players are always losing points because of bad behavior!


Andrew Miller Says:

Exactly – the ump has all the power, it makes no sense to blast the linesperson.


watchthis Says:

Maybe we should let machines do the job and remove all the judges. And maybe all baseball umpires should be forbidden from calling strike at the bottom of 9th inning with 2 outs. And maybe soccer referees should never call a violation in the zone at the last minute.
If the line judge did see a foot fault, she had to call it. That’s what a fair match requires. Though I agree that the last code violation came too quick.


Nassim Billing Says:

What happened was a joke – that linesperson needs to be sacked. Also the Umpire. Serena Williams could have won that match hence what they did to her, she has saved match points and won before and they knew it. So men players can let off steam, but not the women. Sucks!


gween Says:

Unfortunately Serena is an obnoxious spoiled brat; she was very menacing to a woman half her size (“I’m gonna shove this f***ing ball down your throat”)


Dan Martin Says:

I think the rain delays yesterday and time delays today may have contributed to the odd situation in the sense that for 2 days none of the players were sure when or if they would be able to play a semifinal and then prepare for the final.

I think the umpire today let Gonzo and Rafa warm up for 15 minutes instead of 5 knowing the situation. I am not going to excuse Serena’s language and the fact that it was directed at an official likely was her undoing.

Still, in Cincinnati I and everyone else in the Grand Stand heard David Ferrer use words in Spanish whose meanings in English rhyme with truck and runt, and Ferrer received no penalty. Maybe if “joder” had been directed at a lines-person the umpire would have disciplined him. Who knows? Does situation have any bearing on application of rules? For Rafa and Gonzo, it seemed to.

Funny thing was yesterday they showed the replay of Nastase-McEnroe from 79 and I thought to myself it was unlikely to ever see a scene like that again and yet I think fans frustrated by rain delays (some people may have spent a fortune and flown to NY this weekend to see tennis and have to be at work on Monday and be pretty ticked at the weather) and this odd ending could have led to a similar crazy scene.


scineram Says:

It seemed like a foot fault to me.


Jay Says:

We can discuss and complain about Serena and what she said and did-In the end it doesn’t matter because her technical skills in tennis are superb and not many can compete even as she winds down to the end of her career-I honestly think if Serena and Venus were not in the game it would be boring-Remember when they stepped onto the tennis seen everybody had to raise there level of play I mean everybody!!!


tommy Says:

Jay

You are foolish to think that anyone did anything to Serena. She did it to herself, not her country did it to her. She THREATENED to shove a tennis ball down the line judge’s throat. In no sport can you threaten to harm a judge, referee or umpire and not get penalized.
She knew she was wrong. The crowd heard her. The mike’s picked up the threat.
She will be lucky if the WTA doesn’t suspend her.


blah Says:

Dan- I don’t know if players like Ferrer ever threatened to suffocate someone in another language, but Serena really lost it. She kept on the verbal abuse for a while and it seemed like she was going to assault the line judge.

Regarding the foot fault- I don’t know why players get pissed when it’s called. It’s just like a regular double. The lines judge has to call it if he/she sees it, no matter what the situation is.


joy Says:

Serena is the most talented and most infuriating player on the women’s tour. I was diappointed that her obnoxious behavior took away from the win of a true champion but I wasn’t surprised. Serena’s legacy will be that of rude, arrogant behavior and wasted potential. Hopefully she will learn from this, but I doubt it.


Nancy Says:

Well, thank goodness the mikes did pick up her threat, because she sure acted like an angel at that press conference. Dropping an F-bomb in anger is way different than threatening to ram a ****ing ball down someone’s ****ing throat. Who even thinks that way?


Von Perot Says:

There wasn’t a side camera angle to see for sure but it sure looked like a foot fault to me and rules are rules and foot faults are valid rules. Either way Serena’s behavior was disgusting. There is no place for this ghetto language and menacing behavior in any sport. She should be ashamed of herself. I only feel sorry for Kim who would have won anyway, but it stole her much deserved thunder. The “I can’t remember” line in the press conference was just plain lame. She is showing herself to be a self-absorbed prima dona. She usually doesn’t have the class to even acknowledge other players who beat her, always coming up with some excuse about her own play. Just plain low class!


marilyn Says:

I have played tennis throughout my school years and also thru college. I have watched Serena since she became such a dominate force on the court. Today was a sad day. Regardless of the call right or wrong, the behavior that Serena showed on the court was completely uncalled for. She showed horrible sportsmanship today and I will never again enjoy watching her play, shes left a very bad taste in my mouth..we all make mistakes and say things out of anger but not taking responsibility for it when you have the opportunity is just flat out wrong..


george Says:

It’s not the tantrum or the F bomb that disgusted me or made the fans boo. It IS the incredible arrogance and zero gracefulness. She’s a twelve time Slam champion of lady tennis, not a mafia thug. If my kid did this, i would take his racquet away. What happened to personal responsibility in this country?


DIANE Says:

Even if the lines person was wrong to call a foot fault on such a crucial point, you can’t really blame her. If she saw a foot fault, than she was obligated to call it no matter how bad the timing of it was.

Another point, a player has every right to express emotions such as anger and frustration, but it was very un-sportsman like of Serena to chew out the lines person like that. If there was clearly no foot fault the Umpire would have over-rided the lines person’s call, but the umpire did not, so Serena was just unlucky that she foot-faulted at such a bad time.

If you feel like throwing an F-Bomb, do so but not directed against any specific person. I have seen tennis players yell out a swear word, but it usually is just directed at the air in an expression of their frustration.

Serena let her emotions get the better of her and she ended up losing because of it. It really effected her playing as well.

I hope she apologizes for her behavior.


Jay Says:

Tommy,

I never said anyone did anything to Serena. It just goes with the territory-SHE IS BLACK IN AMERICA;This still is America isn’t it?


blah Says:

She had nice body language too. Held that tennis ball up high and close to make sure the lines judge could get an image of what she was talking about. She got another ball from the ball boys before she walked over and uttered the threat. Inexcusable.


Daniel Says:

The replay they showed in my TV it was a foot fault. When she turns to adjust the left foot, she stpes on the line, but a very non significant violation. It was a bad judgement by the linewomen, and Serena should know better to control her emotions. But if it happened to me, with what was on stake, I don´t know how much I would curse the line woman as well!


Steve Says:

Just ran TiVo back to the beginning of the match and heard Dick Enberg state that Serena is about to toe the line! That’s foreshadowing if I ever heard it – what a coincidence.


tennisfan Says:

Serena Williams is the worst sportswoman ever. She is so arrogant and never gives credit to her opponents when she loses. She always says – I “lost” the match, my opponent didn’t win it.

Tonight’s incident just shows what a pompous ugly person she really is – the on-court microphones caught her ‘profanity’ clearly – it’s just no way to react against someone, even when they might be wrong.

Enough said about her – the star of tonite was really Kim. What a ‘comeback’ after such a long break from tennis – She simply played absolutely superb tennis to kick the butt of an arrogant pig – I am thrilled for her and I hope she will win the final tomorrow – after her remarkable achievements this past two weeks, she sure deserves to be the 2009 US open champion..go Kim, you rock!!!!


blah Says:

I still don’t understand why people think a foot fault is less significant than a regular double fault. Both are matter of inches, afterall.


something Says:

i wish the umpire had the option of deducting points, instead of adding points to the opponent. and if the party at fault has 0 points, then obviously the point must be added to the opponent. that way it would have gone from 15-30 to 0-30 to 0-40 and kim clijsters would still have been given the victory she deserved


Cindy_Brady Says:

I suppose that lines woman is off Serena’s holiday gift list.

The Ghetto/hood F-bomb language was colorful. Serena’s black side sure surfaced. She did an injustice to African American’s everywhere.


Stephen Says:

In honesty, we never had the same view as the lines-person did. Serena’s foot did slide forward a tad in her serve motion… how much, we may never know. As for her outbreak, her biggest match is within herself and finding a way to control her anger. I don’t care how intense and passionate of a player you are, it doesn’t give you an excuse to physically threaten someone. Com’on, it’s only a game. She embarrassed fans, family, friends, her sponsors and the sport. I hope she digs down and apologizes.


b shell Says:

tonight,, we witnessed a sad day for United states tennis… serena williams showed how classless she is,, and not one time,, did she apologize for her behavior at the news conference immediately following the match….. she would have lost the match anyway,,, cause she was outplayed in every aspect of the game—- she should be suspended from tennis for 3-5 years… only way to get their attention– she is a disgrace to the game,,, I will never watch her again——-


gween Says:

WTA needs to step up and suspend Serena; she was not cursing, she was threatening with physical violence, and she didn’t even apologized!


Jay Says:

Cindy,

Regardless of her Ghetto/hood F-bomb language being colorful as you so eloquently put it did not do an injustice to me or any other AFRICAN AMERICAN!!!!!!


Lena Priamo Says:

Serena was a total disappointment. She is a gifted player who is a sore loser, whiner and today got what she had coming. Never compliments her challenger, always give excuses why she lost not why her opponent was better. She did not think she should lose to Kim and it showed. What a poor sport and this hurts her legacy for sure.


S. Fleener Says:

Those who swear there was no “foot-fault”, were you there staring at the back service line? The point is not whether a “foot-fault” occurred, but that the line judge was doing her job by calling it as she saw it and Serena was way out of line in approaching her in a menacing manner and verbally abusing her.
In soccer, the player would be red-carded (ejected), immediately for challenging a referee’s call.
That Serena refused to own up to her mistake in the press conference, and didn’t once complement Kim Clijster’s performance is further proof for me that Serena’s athletic behavior is classless.


Larry L Says:

I’m sorry, but the linesperson inserting herself in the match like that at such a critical point by calling a foot fault is total BS!

I would have gone ballistic too.


something Says:

even if she apologizes, it won’t give clijsters back the glory she earned, the glory of beating her fair and square. serena is the worst kind of thief. she steals things that cannot be returned, and she feels no remorse. sickening.


sheila Says:

well i just spent the last 2 weeks watching the uso and when i turned on to watch semi final play on cbs @5pm seattle time there was no match. so i missed the whole damn thing. i understand all the rain delays, but you would think cbs would be courteous enuff to display a tape at bottom of screen saying the schedule changes due to rain. so at 5pm when another show was on, i watched a movie and when the movie was over so was the tennis match. thanx cbs for your lack of respect for keeping viewers informed as to tv schedule change. i have a feeling that football and baseball viewers would not get this same treatment as a tennis viewer


larene Says:

Let us look at every serve of Kim’s before we say Sarina was footfaulting and every player in the championship rounds.


Kelley Says:

Serena deserved the point penalty for the unsportsmanlike conduct. She has become progressively more of a drama queen of late, and this is just the latest manifestation of that. Doubtless the Williams camp will try to make out like someone is out to get them and they are the victim here- but being a spoiled little brat with a filthy mouth is not excusable just because you are rich.


Dan Martin Says:

Threatening bodily harm will indeed get a player kicked out of any sporting event I can think of so I would retract my Ferrer analogy.

Foot faulting is faulting and it can offer a competitive advantage if a player is net rushing.

I am still at a loss.


Margaret Says:

If Nike does not drop Serena after this…I will never buy another item from them again! Tennis is all about class and Serena has NONE.


blah Says:

I am not that surprised this came from Serena, and how she acted like she did nothing afterwards. WTA needs to suspend her but she probably won’t get over 1-2 months anyway so it wont really affect her, since all she cares about is slams.


ShayHay Says:

Ghetto-hood?? HAHA!! So I’m guessing they don’t use f-bombs in the suburbs? Even now the thinly veiled racism continues..

With that being said, I’m so disappointed in what transpired. That call was one that shouldn’t have been made, but Serena’s been there before. From the Henin’s little hand do da to the Capriati call. She knows what they’re up to and she should have kept her cool. For some reason she can’t seem to recover from those bogus calls, but as a champion, you should. This doesn’t in any way diminish the respect I have for her as a player. I just wish that it didn’t end the way it did.


george Says:

Go Kim. I ran into her in Indian Wells at the hotel a few years ago, and she is the most graceful, nicest lady you could meet. Off camera.
I have tickets to the men’s final, but i will try to get out there tomorrow night to cheer her on. let’s celebrate the winner tonight- even if she’s truly nice!


James Says:

serena williams for all her talent is arrogant to the upmost degree. whenever a commentator asks her about an opponent, she simply acts very pompous and does not acknowledge anything about her opponent, just about herselg. personally, i think it has to do with an influence from her father richard, who in my mind, has probably done alot to encourage this type of behaviour from day one.

i felt bad for kim because she had to stand there for an eternity watching this. the frontpage in the sunday paper won`t say how kim took down the champ, but how serena embarrassed herself


Gigi Says:

Although tennis is a classy sport, however; the American tennis players seem to be the rudest players in the history of tennis– past and present:John McEnroe, Connors, Roddick and now add Serena Williams to that list. May be the USTA can introduce “proper court conduct” training in their program for the next upcoming generation of tennis players!


something Says:

the foot fault-or-not debate has nothing to do with serena controlling her actions. the way the match ended has nothing to do with the line judge. and the truth is that NO ONE watching a tv set could see what the line judge saw. the point is that serena is classless in every way.


tommy Says:

Jay-

There in lines the rub, making excuses for behaviour, whether the excuses be racial, gender based, etc. You said “her own country did it to her again’. Read your own words.

The line judge- a woman. Her ethnicity- asian.
But according to you, the whole country did her in. Again, read your own words and stop making excuses for Serena’s behavior. Any athlete, high school, collegiate or professional who threatens an official should be suspended.
People like me who follow and play tennis for our entire lives have always appreciated her game but she is not ABOVE the game.
We take exception to you saying that she is being scapegoated because “she is black in America”.
It is an ignorant statement on par with someone saying that the reason she acted that way is because she’s black.
Both ignorant assertions- maybe you can choose to be open minded- or else your no better than those who are going to blame this on her ethnicity.


Maya Says:

We need to stop racist comments. It is not a problem on this website but the comments on ESPN are sickening. Looks like she foot faulted but without a camera on the baseline don’t know for sure. Yes, Serena lost her composure and her comments warranted a penalty. Unfortunately for her it was a point penalty and therefore, she lost the match. She knew she was wrong and that is why she was saying she is ready to move on in her press conference. She is a great player but I’ve never warmed to her because she never would give credit to her opponents. This is a sportsmanship flaw that has not made her popular whereas her sister tends to be a little more generous. Clijsters, on the other hand, has always been a great sportswoman and friendly to all so wildly popular.


ron Says:

Serena will be fined for her comments. She threatenend the judge and there is no room in tennis for this immature behavoir. She probably learned all of this from her father. Hopefully, she will be ousted from the doubles.


Frank Says:

So I guess John McEnroe wouldn’t be allowed to play tennis in this sensitive era. Sticks and stones…


Dan Martin Says:

Will she play the doubles final? If not, is it her choice or the WTA’s or the USTA’s?

I don’t think race had anything to do with the foot fault call or the assessment of the point penalty. On Facebook’s US Open page there are some anti-Serena comments that I cannot interpret in any way other than having a lot of racial overtones. Are there racists who play and watch tennis? Yes. I don’t think that fact impacts how the calls were made tonight. Now if they had the crew from the Nastase-McEnroe match from 1979 they would have ended and started the match 5 or 6 times.

I think in a sad way this incident will forever be attached to a first ballot Hall of Fame career. This is not to the level of the Rick Pitino situation in terms of changing how an athlete or coach will be viewed, but this is not going away.


leo Says:

Hey Cindy_Brady – not cool.

But regards to Serena – I feel she had it coming. I mean she was staring down the line judge in one of her early round matches for a foot fault. And all that fuss she created over the ranking. She clearly feels she can treat people any way she wants. Karma is a big b!

I do feel a bit bad for her in this situation, but good riddance. I feel worse for Kim.


something Says:

you’re right james. that’s the worst part. instead of everyone (ourselves included) talking about kim and how well she is playing and her come back after having a child, all will be talking about serena and whether she freaking foot-faulted or not.


Bonnie Says:

There is no racism here. There is poor sportsmanship. I am sick of seeing Serena win other matches and in the post interview act like a sweet, innocent syrupy schoolgirl, giddy with innocent delight. I think her real personality showed though and I am happy to see the REAL Serena.


john olseen Says:

Hey, If you are from Compton Ca. this is how you win an argument. Use the “F” word. For all her religiosity , you background and basic instincts
will always prevail when under stress.
She blew it, she knows it,..it’s over.
Clisters won!


Stephen Says:

Now, my comment on Clijsters. Congrats on such a tremendous performance! I’m sorry that your exquisite playing can make another person feel like a loser. Losing teaches us about life. Your energy, focus, patients, composure (being a mom helps) was all part of your game. Wishing you all the best in the Championship Match.


topspin Says:

wow, Incredible how people think that Serena is the victim here.

YOU break the racquet, YOU get a warning

YOU threaten the line judge, YOU get a warning.

Are you dumb enough to do it on match point for your opponent?

Seems like Serena is.


something Says:

does anyone here think serena is the victim?


tommy Says:

Maya-

I agree with you however as we already seen on this page and others, there are those who will say she was maligned because she’s black and those who will say she acted that way because of her ethnicity.
She was wrong to threaten the line judge, she should apologize and move on.
Yes, the call was a tough one and maybe could have been handled better from the ump but Serena gave them no choice but to assess a point penalty.

Whatever happened to when you’re wrong, you’re wrong? Accept responsiblity and move on.

Sadly, racist comments will always be a part of a conflict if folks feel that something occured because of a person’s race-


KimFan Says:

Congrats, Kim, you’re the greatest!


marlorie Says:

Cindy Brady says:

“The Ghetto/hood F-bomb language was colorful. Serena’s black side sure surfaced. She did an injustice to African American’s everywhere.”

LOOOOOOOOLL!!!!!!!!!! I watch tennis, & 99.9% of the players are white, and they all curse. All of a sudden, serena curses & she’s showing her black side. No wonder america is so f&$%^up. One step forward & ten steps back in race relations. yes, Serena was wong, but what’s this got to do with race? Don’t the LILY WHITE players curse.

Shame on you. May your white a$$ rot in hell. & no one wants to know if you’re white or black or green or yellow, so please don’t bring the ‘oh, am black’ nonsense


Maya Says:

John Olseen needs to be called out for his racist comments. Get off this great tennis site you jerk!


ShayHay Says:

Oh please…you people must not remember John McEnroe or Jimmy Connors who were some of the most obnoxious guys to ever play the game. But hey, I loved both of them. If this ONE incident damages her legacy when it clearly did nothing to theirs, you know what that means……..


Jay Goldman Says:

As a player of many sports, I understand that it takes great amounts of energy and competitiveness at the top level to win in any kind of sport, much less in a semi-final match at the US Open. So to give 2 set points to Clijsters on a rediculous call would probably have made the most docile of tennis players curse! Come on people- get off her case! She is just competitive and lost her temper. She is human! To then subsequently give the match away to Clijsters on a point penalty is not human…as a matter of fact we are now a society obsessed with rules without any compassion whatsoever. Clijsters would tell you that is NOT the way she wanted to win that match. ( By-the-way I am a Clijsters fan)


something Says:

those guys were obnoxious, but they gave credit where credit was due. she never compliments an opponent who clearly out-plays her, and her actions robbed kim of the feeling of victory she deserved.


Cindy_Brady Says:

Wonder what Arthur Ashe would have though about Serena’s out burst?


ROTH Says:

I found it incredulous that the reporter here, Sean Randall was “shocked” and “stunned.” Is he new to professional tennis? Is this his first Serena Williams tennis match? By my count, this exceptionally gifted tennis player but rude, unprofessional drama queen has recorded at least a half dozen major violations. Her behavior at the U.S. Open, after playing badly, smashing her racket after losing the first set and her actions at the end of the second set earned the loss she richly deserved. I am embarrassed for her, her opponent, the USTA and everyone who had to witness that totally unacceptable behavior.


Min Says:

Well, lets keep this BLACK-WHITE point away!! she was under pressure from the expectation she had built for herself. she wanted to win, that does not mean other player cannot play well or she cannot make any mistake or fault or for that matter she can’t be called for as she is BLACK!! horrible thinking… i tried to find myself from replays whether it was or not a foot fault, but unable to make out.. you actually need vulture view to confirm.. ok!! for one minute lets agree it was incorrect a mistake on part of line umpire, but the behavior serena showed was uncalled for… were you seriously thinking that she would have won the point, then set and next set and the match???? think again, she lost the match long back, it was just the final nail to the coffin. i agree she is great player, but that and being BLACK doeant mean she can behave the way she want?? I wish Kim had won the match herway.. but win is win, she should be happy about that.

When you say male players dont get such penalty i would add i never saw them behaving like this, going and threating the umpire. Saying abusive words, i mean its very common, both male and female players do that, but threatening and speaking abusive words to themselves are 2 different things. While u speak abusive words to yourself, you have no one to hurt, but!!!…


Giner Says:

“Once Serena finished her tirade the lineswoman reported to the chair umpire, Louise Engzell, of the what Serena had said, which apparently fell under verbal abuse – an F bomb perhaps?”

There is no perhaps about it. But even without the F bombs, she still did enough to have been called for code violation.

So far 71 comments. This is the most I’ve seen in response to a WTA match thus far. Sad isn’t it?

“The other question is was it really a foot fault? The CBS angle was inconclusive (to me) and I have to wonder that given the situation if that’s one of those calls you simply let go unless it’s clearly flagrant – similar to football and basketball games where the refs often “let the player’s play” at the end of important games. In this case, however, the refs followed the letter of the law assuming Serena did foot fault and she did curse the lineswoman.”

Strangely enough no one even asked her about the foot fault. It was completely overshadowed by the CV. McEnroe says there was no foot fault, and the line judge was partly to blame because if she hadn’t called the foot fault, none of this would have happened.

“Regardless, this incident will leave quite a stain on the match, the tournament, the sport and on Serena Williams for some time.”

At least it got a lot of publicity.

Andrew Miller Says:

“Clijsters deserved a chance to win that match!”

I think deep down she is relieved. That last point is the hardest one to win if you’re up against Serena.

DC Says:

“Serena is playing for the US Open. This was a huge point from Serena, who has come back from match point to win many matches. You don’t call a foot fault here unless it is very obvious. And, there was NO foot fault to call. Serena was upset. She has every right to be. I’ve never seen a major championship decided on something like this … not with all of the arguing and hollering that I’ve heard from other top players in the past. And I’ve NEVER seen a foot fault called on such an important point. Any competitor would understand. Any human should understand. It was sickening to see the champion who put so much work into defending her title lose on poor judgement by a line judge.”

You can’t say this for certain from the angle you saw it from. Serena herself didn’t even bring it up. The judge was just doing her job. She can’t refrain and do things differently just because it’s match point. She may not have been keeping score or even be aware that it was to bring up match point, but in any case, rules are rules, and you have to do your job the same no matter what point it is. If she would have called that foot fault on any other point, then 15/30 should not be any different.

Brian Says:

“Serena is the most obnoxious “champion” ever..and I honestly believe she does a dis-service to the sport of tennis.”

Her conduct, yes. Her game, no. This is coming from someone who doesn’t even like the Williams sisters. Credit where it’s due, her tennis is very good and her mental toughness at the slams is Federer-like.

Jay Smith Says:

“Serena should be banned for 5 years for her unsportsmanlike behavior.
I understand she wanted to win and wanted it real badly but the way she went after the linesperson was not called for , and has no place on our tennis courts ( or in our society for that matter).”

It warranted a code violation, and that is exactly what she received. Nothing more, nothing less.

I’m just sad that there was no applause at all when Kim was announced the winner. All we got was boos and she was booed until she was off the court even though none of it was her fault.

NachoF Says:

“Can you challenge a foot fault call?”

No, because hawkeye only tracks the ball, not the player.


ShayHay Says:

something Says:

those guys were obnoxious, but they gave credit where credit was due. she never compliments an opponent who clearly out-plays her, and her actions robbed kim of the feeling of victory she deserved.
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I agree that the match ended horribly and who knows if it would have ended there without the shoddy calls. However, please don’t try and paint Mac and Connors as some type of choir boys when they lost matches, because they were not. If she doesn’t want to go out and give praises to someone who just beat her, fine. I’ve seen Serena compliment players on numerous ocassions. But after tonight’s match and the way it ended, I highly doubt anyone would be in a congratulatory mood. Kim shouldn’t feel robbed at all. Not anymore than Nadal did after Roger’s crying episode in Australia-haha…..

Anyway Congrats to Kim for making it back to the tour and being in the final. I won’t be watching because it will probably be a snooze fest. I’ll tough it out with the fellas.


Andrew Miller Says:

Serena Williams is one of the greatest players in WTA history – and she showed bad judgement tonight.

That’s what cost her the match – bad judgement.


ShayHay Says:

Cindy_Brady Says:

Wonder what Arthur Ashe would have though about Serena’s out burst?
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Lady let it go. You’re the same one who said her “black” side came out of her. You’ve lost all credibility and outed yourself.


ShayHay Says:

Andrew Miller Says:

Serena Williams is one of the greatest players in WTA history – and she showed bad judgement tonight.

That’s what cost her the match – bad judgement.
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I absolutely agree. I still say she’s the best on tour and tonight was definitely a low point for her. Hopefully she will learn from it and come back stronger next year.


topspin Says:

@Giner,

are you kidding me???

Serena was booed as she was leaving the stadium.

people were clapping and quite happy when Kim was announced the winner and she left.

got tivo? watch again.


steve Says:

So will we see 19-year-old US Open champ Caroline Wozniacki, or two-time US Open champ Kim Clijsters? The world is waiting with bated breath. Or not.

Anything other than a Clijsters win would simply confirm that there is no consistency whatever in women’s tennis right now.

What is the deal with Serena and Belgian players in Grand Slam semifinals, anyhow? It’s not like the first time this kind of controversy has happened in such a situation, and it won’t be the last.


marlorie Says:

Margaret@12:01 says:

“If Nike does not drop Serena after this…I will never buy another item from them again! Tennis is all about class and Serena has NONE.”

Good for you. They won’t miss your dollar. & no, they won’t drop Serena, seeing that she’s the biggest star in female tennis, multiple grandslam champ etc.

I see some people comparing Serena’s cursing to Phelps smoking whatever it was he was smoking. LOL!!! well, well, if anything, I’m almost sure Nike will only be pleased with this incident happening on a tennis court…..free advertisement for all the coverage it’s gonna get. Yes, she lost her temper & shouldn’t have, but it will be very much understood as it was at match-point. Not to mention questions if it was a foot-fault or not. Who knows, if this goes further, we might see something happening along the lines of hawk-eyes. I can bet my house that Nike won’t even dare to THINK of dropping her.

Those who loved Serena before, will admonish her, say she did wrong, but will still continue loving her.

Those who disliked/hated serena before will continue doing so, & will have further ammunition to attack her.

those who were indifferent will admonish her, but come Australia, they’ll remain indifferent.

Serena cursed,….it was bad….life moves on. I really don’t get what all this melodrama of ‘embarrassing America’ is all about. For pete’s sake, it’s a tennis match, not a politician representing the country.

serena cursed….she dropped an f-bomb…barely a twin towes, iraq or afghanistan incident!!! Get a perspective for pete’s sake.


tommy Says:

ShayHay-

I grew up watching both Connors and McEnroe. While I admired their games, I was no fan of the profanity and abuse of officials.

I can tell you, however, that neither ever threaten to “shove this f****** tennis ball down your f****** throat, I swear to God” at an official. By the way, McEnroe was defaulted out of the Australian Open in 1990 because he had received a point penalty, a game penalty and then a default for arguing calls and abusing officials.

Their legacy is one of great players, not great ambassadors or role models for the game. As for “you know what that means…” Yes, it means that if Serena doesn’t accept responsibilty, apologize for threating the line judge and admit she was out of line and accept whatever punishment the WTA hands down, it means that Serena will be considered just like them. Great talent but selfish, arrogant, self-absorbed and NOT a role model. She even lied in her press conference when asked about it.
Let’s see how she handles it. Like our Prez says, this is a teachable moment. Let’s she what she does next, now that the truth is out.


Dan Martin Says:

Shayhay,

McEnroe still gets asked about Australia in 1990. He still says he did not know about the rule change. Feinstein’s book interviewed the officials and Mac would have been defaulted even if he had had no warning or point penalty. Feinstein’s research concluded as much, but players like to hang on to why the messed up etc. If she threatened harm, then she is kind of lucky it was match point as a point penalty would do it, but if it was 2-2 in the second set and she threatened harm I think she would have been defaulted. I don’t think her legacy is ruined, but just like McEnroe still gets asked about 1990 Serena will be asked about 2009.


CG Says:

Leave Serena alone. It’s the testosterone talking, not her.


Bjorn O'Leary Says:

I hate seeing Tennis holding back a high spirited black man like we witnessed tonite.


Nole's fan Says:

I think saying the f-word to the linesperson always warren a code violation. I remembered incidents in AO years ago when Agassi yelled at a linesperson in a SF match and got a violation, and in another Aussie Open, Lleyton also got a code violation for yelling at the linesperson when he got a FF call. I don’t think there is a a double standard between men and woman, just a different standard for who the f-word is directing at.


topspin Says:

@marlorie

what really gets people here is that we are not talking about Kim making it to the finals and how AMAZING she played tonight.

no we are talking about serena dumbass williams and how much of an embarrasement she is to tennis. for what she did I’m quite pissed off.


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

Actually Kim Clijsters didn’t have any glory stolen from her at all by Serena Williams. Points were awarded in the match, as they always are in a woman’s singles tennis match, for such things as aces, fore hand winners, back hand winners, lob winners, double faults, foot faults and code violations. And when all the various points were awarded, from all the various ways points are awarded, Clisters won more games and more sets!!!

I am glad Kim Clijsters won the match, and particulary glad she won it the way she did, that is, by her outplayint Serena, and Serena losing the first match point of the game through her big, big, big, mouth!!! It actually poetic justice!!!


L Says:

Serena lost because of her profane threat to the lines official. Under the rules of the US Open Tennis she was assessed a code violation for unsportsmanlike behaviour. Because it was her second violation of the match, she got a point penalty (at match point).


DIANE Says:

In her press conference Serena admitted that she didn’t think she would get a penalty for “losing her temper”. It’s clear from such a statement that she thinks she’s immune to punishment.


v_allthat Says:

serena williams knew she was going to lose but she didn’t want to lose fair and square, so she decided to yell at the line judge to get herself disqualified.
She has no sportsmanship whatsoever, and is a disgrace to the sport and tennis fans.


something Says:

yeah, except federer didn’t throw a tantrum DURRING the match. and his crying could hardly be compared to serena’s outburst. sure he stole some of the attention from nadal, and that was wrong, but he gave nadal the win he deserved. is anyone in a “congratulatory mood” after losing a match? no, it’s called acknowledging when other players are beating you, not just you beating yourself. of course mcenroe and conners weren’t choir boys. the point is that some people like to win the fair way, by striking that winning shot against your opponent, or that shot that causes an error. serena stole that moment from kim.


tom wilson Says:

You are ready to crucify serena but give tom wilson a pass for calling the president a liar. If serena should be suspended so should tom wilson. Enough with the double standards


topspin Says:

I’m really glad the judges and the tournament director did.

my god can you imagine she getting away with this ??? in an american tournament?

and did anyone catch her saying as she approached the director, to the lineswoman “what are you scared? you scared??” whoa.


ShayHay Says:

marlorie Says:
Those who loved Serena before, will admonish her, say she did wrong, but will still continue loving her.

Those who disliked/hated serena before will continue doing so, & will have further ammunition to attack her.

those who were indifferent will admonish her, but come Australia, they’ll remain indifferent.

Serena cursed,….it was bad….life moves on. I really don’t get what all this melodrama of ‘embarrassing America’ is all about. For pete’s sake, it’s a tennis match, not a politician representing the country.

serena cursed….she dropped an f-bomb…barely a twin towes, iraq or afghanistan incident!!! Get a perspective for pete’s sake.
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Thank you! I couldn’t have said it better myself.


Andrew Miller Says:

Q. She was very clear that she felt that you were playing better and that you were going to win that match. Did she say anything like that when she came over to you? Does that make you feel better about it at all?

KIM CLIJSTERS: She just said, Good luck. I hope you win. You know, we always got along well, and I think just unfortunate that a battle like that has to end like that. So, again, yeah, just unfortunate.

Kim Clijsters seems like a nice person. She totally respects Serena Williams and sees the event as unfortunate.

Transcript:

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2009-09-12/200909121252729013843.html


Jay Goldman Says:

The judge who made the foot-fault call should have been over-ruled…it was a bad call. To give away a match on a default after so much good tennis is to me disgusting…

Why can’t you people recognise a great tennis player and overlook Serena’s poor use of words made in the heat of the moment? She is human…unlike the US Open which is being taken over by a bunch of lawyers and geeks.


Jean Boudin Says:

Serena has always been pouty but now seems narcissistic. I could forgive a lone crazy outburst, but then laughing with Venus and focusing only on herself in that conference, with not a thought to the vulgar, violent threats she just hurled to that woman (who is a line judge but also a human being) It is a terrible mark to the U.S. as hosts of the US Open. I hope she is disqualified from doubles and has to publicly apologize to that woman and the Open athletes and fans.


Clijsters Fan Says:

All in all, I think the saddest part is that the lines woman decided it was a good idea to call what may or may not have been a foot fault. You just don’t do that. I believe Serena should be sanctioned for her unsportsmanlike behavior because, well, we all saw what happened, but it could have all been avoided had the lines woman kept her mouth shut. It was a cruel call.


Terrie Says:

Serena williams is a disgrace–to the sport, to her sponsors and to the public that pays to see her play. Her complete lack of decency and class, lack of common courtesy to competitors, endless ego and 5 year old temper tantrums when she loses are enough to make anyone sick. Why don’t you suspend her for her threatening behavior, or press conferences where she insults our intelligence with lies and sarcasm—and Nike why would you want such a disgusting person representing your label? In a group of about 50 tennis enthusiasts tonight–all of agreed that we wouldn’t lower ourselves to watch Serena again or purchase any product that she is involved with. Especially when there are other players like Kim and Melanie that are truly role models for kids and upcoming players and fans. She is just all around gross!


ShayHay Says:

Dan Martin Says:

Shayhay,

McEnroe still gets asked about Australia in 1990. He still says he did not know about the rule change. Feinstein’s book interviewed the officials and Mac would have been defaulted even if he had had no warning or point penalty. Feinstein’s research concluded as much, but players like to hang on to why the messed up etc. If she threatened harm, then she is kind of lucky it was match point as a point penalty would do it, but if it was 2-2 in the second set and she threatened harm I think she would have been defaulted. I don’t think her legacy is ruined, but just like McEnroe still gets asked about 1990 Serena will be asked about 2009.
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Oh I know Mac still get’s asked about AO ’90. And guess what I think he is a great ambassador for the sport. Lots of people who in the past thought tennis was a stiff, elite game, found his passion and brashness refreshing. Especially Americans. Most people in my area, still feel that way. The women’s game needs some excitement. Granted this is really not what I had in mind, but hey, if it get’s people watching…….


steve Says:

“While I admired their games, I was no fan of the profanity and abuse of officials.”

LOLS. They were showing the 1991 US Open match of Connors vs. Krickstein during the rain delay. I never saw Connors play (it was long before I followed tennis) so I watched with interest.

And Connors totally lit into the umpire, while taking care not to use any of the forbidden words that would have gotten him penalized.

“That’s bullcrap!” “Getcher ass down here!”

Those guys knew where the line was and they took care not to cross it. It’s not really guts if you’re holding back out of fear. Serena at least, has the virtue of speaking what’s on her mind.

Near the end of the match, Connors looked into the camera, and said “This is what they paid for, this is what they’re gonna get.” So it was all an act, you know, all the yelling at the ump, all to pump up the crowd. Serena isn’t such a showman; she plays merely to win.


J.K. Says:

Yup, I’ll say it – I think Serena was a victim here. But so was Clijsters. And so was the whole audience. All victims in a chain of consequences set off by an extremely bad call by the line judge. The best evidence available supports the claim that there was no foot fault happening here. But in any case, foot fault calls are, at best, a minor and irritating call. Does anybody really think that the degree of violation caused by a toe on the line is match-changing? At worst, foot fault calls can do terrible damage – like this one did. The line judge showed stunningly bad judgment in calling one at this point in the match. And anybody who has any understanding of what competitive drive, emotional intensity, and the drive to EXCEL do to the mind and the spirit shouldn’t be surprised that many of the best players in all sports – including McEnroe, Connors, Nastase, and many others who are among my favorites in tennis – will REACT to things like foot fault calls at crucial moments in the pressure-cooker of competition. As to this self-serving palaver about “there are two Serenas” – it makes me laugh. There are hundreds of all of us, as different events and situations bring out different sides of us. Serena is a fierce competitor with a blazing drive to win. That’s why she wins. That’s why we watch her. That’s why I’m on her side on this one. And for the record – yes, she was behind – but given her record over the years, I think there was a very real possibility she could have turned it around and won.


ShayHay Says:

Andrew Miller Says:

Q. She was very clear that she felt that you were playing better and that you were going to win that match. Did she say anything like that when she came over to you? Does that make you feel better about it at all?

KIM CLIJSTERS: She just said, Good luck. I hope you win. You know, we always got along well, and I think just unfortunate that a battle like that has to end like that. So, again, yeah, just unfortunate.

Kim Clijsters seems like a nice person. She totally respects Serena Williams and sees the event as unfortunate.

Transcript:

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2009-09-12/200909121252729013843.html
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But, but but……this will shatter the image of big, bad Serena who doesn’t congratulate people-haha…Serena is not a poor sport. This was just an unfortunate incident that while embarrassing does not make her a bad person. And it doesn’t warrant a 5 year ban, like some BOZO suggested earlier.


Clijsters Fan Says:

And stop talking bad about Serena – she’s a fighter and a great champion. She’s one of the greatest tennis champions ever to grace the slams and she does a lot for the betterment of the sport. She has raised the level of tennis to one that only very, very few can handle. She’s also human. Let he or she who is free of sin throw the first stone.


ron Says:

I think she will pull out of the doubles before they kick her out.


ShayHay Says:

ron Says:

I think she will pull out of the doubles before they kick her out.
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And why would they kick her out??????


Bonnie Says:

I’m sorry. I just want to have heroes with virtue, not abusive aggression. It would be chaos if we didn’t abide by the rules of the game (see rule #8). And even if the foot fault was a bad call, when we play we all call it as we see it and same with linesmen. We have to live with it. Serena made a costly mistake and I hope she will learn by it instead of acting ignorant….you want to be a hero…obey the rules of the game.


gween Says:

from the cbs sports website:
“If I could, I would take this … ball and shove it down your … throat and kill you,”

http://www.cbssports.com/tennis/story/12196471


Mary Says:

If you are dq’d because of abuse, are you given zero points for the tournament?


osas Says:

Thumbs up for Kim. Thumbs down for Serena. The best behaved player in the WTA clearly beat the Worst behaved playe. Another proof pf God’s existence.


ron Says:

yes, Gween if that is what she said then she should and will be kicked out.


Cindy_Brady Says:

topspin Says:

and did anyone catch her saying as she approached the director, to the lineswoman “what are you scared? you scared??” whoa.

That was Serena’s streety side emerging. She was clearly trying to intimidate the much smaller Asian lines woman. Serena is a bully and I’m glad her thug tactics got her defaulted. Let this be a lesson. No one is above the rules. No one.


Jay Goldman Says:

Steve- you are right on about Connors! I saw that too….to me, he was more profane in the way he pointed at the umpire repeatedly and, with hand gestures, told the umpire he was outta there! He must have done that 5 times in a matter of seconds. We are such a hypocrytical society!


CJ Says:

the thing is, with serena’s serve, she had a veryvgood chance of getting to deuce. she should have taken the foot-fault on the chin, but she was frustrated with her game. she wanted to make it a contest of power, kim kept making it a contest of footwork. power was down but not yet out — until the profanity-laced tirade. a shame, because serena was still in it. yet she has herself to blame for not allowing herself the opportunity to stage a comeback, something she’s better at than anyone else in the game.


Anna Says:

I am a big Serena Williams fan. Kim Clijsters doesn’t compare to Serena. Tonight, I am disappointed in Serena. It’s tough to see a match end this way- but it’s also part of the game. Serena has had some bad calls in the past and acted like a lady. Not completely sure the call was wrong. From an angle it looked like her toe was halfway into the white baseline before the ball made contact with her racket. I hope that she can think about her behavior and get back to the top of her game.


osas Says:

yes i saw that vintage connor’s match. Cursed out the umpire and everyone appluded. Did they change the rules or something?


Dan Martin Says:

We’ve all seen athletes lose their cool and be vulgar, and we saw it again tonight. This was not the Pistons-Pacers riot or Woody Hayes punching a player in the face. Having said that, it was not pretty. Serena’s behavior should have been better. Penalties were assessed for what was said. Jay Goldman’s point of view is about where I am at on this. I’d hate to see the Women’s doubles final be a walkover if Serena were to be banned or chose not to play.


ShayHay Says:

Cindy_Brady Says:

topspin Says:

and did anyone catch her saying as she approached the director, to the lineswoman “what are you scared? you scared??” whoa.

That was Serena’s streety side emerging. She was clearly trying to intimidate the much smaller Asian lines woman. Serena is a bully and I’m glad her thug tactics got her defaulted. Let this be a lesson. No one is above the rules. No one.
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“streety side”???? Boy you are batting a thousand tonight-haha.

Oh my goodness, I imagine a lot of you were waiting for this moment. Waiting for Serena to do something so you could say, ‘See this is what happens when we let…….play tennis.’ My goodness lighten up already. It’s not the end of the world. The lines lady should be scared, she made a bogus call. Was Serena going to shove the ball down her throat, probably not-haha. Definitely not the way I wanted to see this match end, but I’ve definitely seen more outbursts or incidents way more detrimental to the game of tennis than this. So lay off of it already.


MJ Says:

Should have had no footfault call at that stage as it wasnt even much of one maybe a millimeter on the line….

AND the chair should have overruled such a ridiculous call at a vital point……

Serena acted outrageeously as well….

The lineswoman was hella old and wore coke bottle glasses….15 minutes of fame achieved, girl

Im angry and saddened by the handling of all this by USTA, Serena and even the fans booing Serena at the end.


marlorie Says:

dumbass topspin@12:35 says
“what really gets people here is that we are not talking about Kim making it to the finals and how AMAZING she played tonight.

no we are talking about serena dumbass williams and how much of an embarrasement she is to tennis. for what she did I’m quite pissed off.”

I agree Kim played great, & penalties or not, she probably would have won. Yes, Serena did wrong. but why are you so pissed off? It’s just a tennis match-hardly has any effect on your life. Just an entertainment, so no need to be so pissed off

Also, NO ONE has prevented you from talking about Kim’s amazing win. It is YOUR choice to continue taking about Serena….hardly anyone holding a gun to your head. EACH individual commenting on a blog & typing away on a computer has a choice….YOU have chosen to talk about serena, so you deal with that….hardly anyone holding a gun to your head. it is your choice.

also, the news media has a choice to either analyze kim’s win, or serena’s outburst. sure, they’ll mention Kim’s win as a by-the-way, but their CHOICE will be to run with serena’s outburst because it will sell more papers, get many website hits, etc (as already evident in a matter of minutes on this thread). Nonetheless, it will their choice.

*you say dumbass serena so you must be dumbass topspin.


Franz Says:

lol i love it, she should be banned


Veno Says:

Wow, I see Giner, Steve, Cindy_Brady, Dan and Andrew as the only regulars and 20 new names surface on this thread. What a stunning end to the match. I was gobsmacked!

From a sporting standpoint calling a footfault on a second serve at 15-30 down while serving to stay in the match is a testament of not understanding sports, but rules are rules and she saw it and called it.

I’ve seen the youtube replays of the incident and there is no way you can justify what Serena did there. She’s a great champion and I love watching her play, but that was INEXCUSABLE.

Even if it’s logical in the heat of the moment, emotions and frustration running high, she’s a pro, rolemodel and millions are watching her and to let yourself go berzerk in such a way is just wrong. No excuses.

“I swear to God, I will take this “F-bomb” ball and shove it down your “F-bomb” throat.”


Mary Says:

Hopefully, tennis officials will crack down on other violations such as well-timed bathroom breaks, injury timeouts, bs hawkeye reviews, and taking five years before serving a ball.

We see more matches decided with that nonsense than we do seeing a player curse out a linesperson.


funches Says:

Cindy-Brady,

I don’t know what Arthur Ashe would have said about Serena, but I’m pretty sure his words to you would have been, “Shut the F… up, you racist bitch.”


Veno Says:

Anna Says:

I am a big Serena Williams fan. Kim Clijsters doesn’t compare to Serena.

First sentence: fine; your assessment after these two sentences: fine
Second sentence: one question: Why on earth put that in there? Has absolutely no baring on what you discuss so why take a snap at Kim? Weird….


sandy Says:

A very early post by gween Says:
“WTA needs to step up and suspend Serena; she was not cursing, she was threatening with physical violence, and she didn’t even apologized!”

And I completely agree. Her press conference afterwards was so typical of her. Almost mafia-esque the way she skirted questions and shrugged. There was a question asked about if she felt her body language toward the linesman could’ve been perceived as threatening and she shrugged and says, “I don’t really understand what you’re asking me.”
Clearly she doesn’t understand the concept of body language because she’s too busy using actual obscene language.

I do not condone obscene language by ANYONE, but most especially a public figure. There are hundreds, no… thousands of little girls out there who want to be just like Serena and who were probably watching that match, just to see her behaving so horribly! And yes, we’ve seen it before in Capriati and Johnny Mac and Connors, but that’s NO reason why we should excuse it. If anything, that’s even more reason it shouldn’t happen… because Serena and her fellow players would’ve SEEN the repurcussions of their actions and should learn not to repeat it.

And again, it wasn’t just the cursing, but the actual threat. Now whether or not it was an intended “threat”, or just a spur of the moment “knee jerk” response, we will never know, but in light of the fact of what she DID, she needs to make a Very Public apology to the linesman, the WTA, her sponsors and Her Fans!

Also in the press conference, she stated that it was only herself and Venus who had been called out on Foot Faults and is trying to make it look like the WTA’s out to get them or something. Obviously, this is completely untrue. I have seen many, many matches this tournament where foot faults have been called and more importantly, if she didn’t agree, that’s what the umpire’s there for. She needed to take a much more respectable course of action.

What I thought was absolutely hilarious however, was Mary Carillo’s comment after viewing the press conference. Allow me to paraphrase. She says “Serena may not have won the match, but she deserves to win an oscar for her performance in that press conference.”

Serena has come a long way in her tennis career. It is my true hope that she comes a much further way in her personal struggles.
God bless her.


Obiagele Says:

There was more than the last foot fault call that was erroneously made against Serena last night. So it wasn’t just that Kim was playing so
well, but that on top of that several of Kim’s
shots that were out were not called. In my opinion it was the cumulative effect of all of
this that raised Serena’s ire. In addition, I
am shocked at the racist comments on this site.
If an African American person (athelete or not)
uses the F word, why does that automatically speak to the entire “Black” race or to Compton???
Come on, people!


Giner Says:

Q. Do you think the lineswoman deserves an apology?

SERENA WILLIAMS: An apology for?

Q. From you.

SERENA WILLIAMS: From me?

Q. For the yelling and what you said.

SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, how many people yell at linespeople? So I think, you know, if you look at ‑‑ I don’t know. All the people that, you know, kind of yell at linespeople, I think it’s ‑‑ kind of comes sometimes. Players, athletes get frustrated. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen that happen.

Q. If you could say something now to that linesperson, what would you say now that you’ve calmed down and had a chance to think about what happened?

SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, yeah, I haven’t quite thought about that yet, and, you know, maybe I’ll see her.

————

Q. Would you be interested to see if you actually foot faulted?

SERENA WILLIAMS: I’m pretty sure I did. If she called a foot fault, she must have seen a foot fault. I mean, she was doing her job. I’m not going to knock her for not doing her job.

————

Nicely handled on the last question. Her ability to accept defeat has improved. Or it could be that she doesn’t want to attract any further controversy. Still, too much pride to apologise to the line judge.

Here’s the part where she gets caught lying and contradicts herself:

——————
Q. On court it was picked up where you said, I would never say such‑and‑such to you.

SERENA WILLIAMS: Because I think she said I would kill you, and I was like, What? I was like, Wait a minute.

But then I had misheard. She had never said that. So that was just something ‑‑ I was like, Whoa. Because I was like, Wait a minute. Let’s not ‑‑ because I’m not that way. So.

She was like, No, I didn’t say that. She said something else. I said, Oh, okay. I get it. And I was totally fine, because at that point I realized I got a point penalty and it was match point.

What can I do? I’m not going to complain. It was what it was.

Q. What did she say you said?

SERENA WILLIAMS: I don’t know. Like I said, I wasn’t there. I was actually at the baseline preparing my serve, and I think maybe she went to the umpire at that point. Actually I didn’t even see her walk over to the umpire, so I have no idea what she did.
——————

It must be hard to transcribe her stumbling attempts to dodge.

And the last piece that I liked is the last part of her answer to this Q:

Q. How devastated are you that a match of this caliber had to end that way?

SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, you know, I’m just clearly not happy, but it was ‑‑ I don’t know. Like, I mean, obviously I wanted to fight.

I always fight when I’m down and keep going. I planned on hitting a couple of aces, but I guess it didn’t work out.


ShayHay Says:

MJ Says:
Im angry and saddened by the handling of all this by USTA, Serena and even the fans booing Serena at the end.

——————

American tennis fans are the absolute worst. Always have been in their fickle nature. Take away Serena and Venus Williams and guess what….there is NO American tennis. You can talk about Oudin, Isner, Roddick, yadda yadda all you want. Question: What have they WON lately? Not a darn thing. And I like them all. The fate of US tennis has been resting squarely on the shoulders of the sisters for the last decade without question, and from what I’ve seen it will be for at least the next 3 years, because none of the players I’ve mentioned will be winning any slams anytime soon.


Veno Says:

How smart was it of Dinara Safina to hire that lines woman to make Serena lose the match. Now the heat will be off her for being such a joke WTA number 1 and she neutralized the Serena is the real number 1 effect :)


fred Says:

It’s great to see that linesmen are so well screened and trained, as one must be to discern activity in 4 sq cm, at a distance of at least 6m (that’s better than 20/20 vision without the aid of cameras). Also, I’m glad the pro tennis is upholding its long-held standards for sportsmanship, treating Serena just like John McEnroe when he swore at the linesman in the 1990 Australian open and was disqualified – wait, that was after 3 misconduct violations, and the crowd still cheered for him; I mean like John in 1981 Wimbledon when he swore at the umpire – wait, there was no default, just a $1500 fine afterwards. Well, maybe Serena hasn’t performed well enough in the sport to warrant the same level of consideration as afforded to John McEnroe. Or perhaps rules really are just rules applied equally to all… and that must also be the reason we now have hawk-eye and the challenge system in the US Open, right?


gween Says:

Obiagele,
Is not the foul language, but according to the CBS sports website, she actually threaten to kill the woman:
“If I could, I would take this … ball and shove it down your … throat and kill you,”

http://www.cbssports.com/tennis/story/12196471


ShayHay Says:

Veno Says:

How smart was it of Dinara Safina to hire that lines woman to make Serena lose the match. Now the heat will be off her for being such a joke WTA number 1 and she neutralized the Serena is the real number 1 effect :)
——————

Thanks for making me smile…. I needed that after tonight.


Jay Goldman Says:

MJ you are spot on with that analysis. Why are we letting people with coke-bottle glasses destroy another’s dreams and hard work? To say nothing of point penaltys that hand the match free to the other player.


ShayHay Says:

gween Says:

Obiagele,
Is not the foul language, but according to the CBS sports website, she actually threaten to kill the woman:
“If I could, I would take this … ball and shove it down your … throat and kill you,”

http://www.cbssports.com/tennis/story/12196471
—————

Yes I’m sure she was going to go over and physically shove the ball down the woman’s throat while all of America watched. HAHA!!! Stop making me laugh.


steve Says:

Roddick will win a Wimbledon title, just like Ivanisevic, who also got beaten in the final multiple times by the greatest players of his era.

Dedication like his will not go unrewarded. And hey, Ivanisevic did it at 30, Roddick is a spring chicken by comparison.

The guy’s made it to the final three times now. He’s perfectly capable of getting there again. If he’s not up against Federer, he’ll win it.


MJ Says:

steve Says:

Near the end of the match, Connors looked into the camera, and said “This is what they paid for, this is what they’re gonna get.” So it was all an act, you know, all the yelling at the ump, all to pump up the crowd. Serena isn’t such a showman; she plays merely to win.
—————-
hell yah, she is as real as it gets! Connors used to curse ‘butt’ instead of a** hahaha LAME

but even after all of this, this is the one time the WTA has caught the public’s attention and this is so controversial….I mean i dont even know how to feel. It was one of the most well played womens matches, a classic, up to that point.


Valerie Moses Says:

Prior to Venus and Serena Williams coming onto the scene women’s tennis was BORING!!! Aside from the Chris and Martina rivalry and Steffi Graff none of the matches generated any excitement. Many tickets have been sold and much money has been earned by many because people wanted to either see the Williams sisters win or lose. When they retire the women’s game will return to the bore that it was. I have seen many male players throw rackets so hard that they could have decapitated someone. Yet no points were removed and no calls for suspension. If Serena is suspended then from here on all players should be penalized for their tantrums and tirades. If she is the only one to be suspended and others continue to do so without penalty we will then see what motivated this incident in the first place. RACISM.


Veno Says:

You’re welcome, I thought lightening the issue a little bit wouldn’t harm anyone


ShayHay Says:

fred Says:

It’s great to see that linesmen are so well screened and trained, as one must be to discern activity in 4 sq cm, at a distance of at least 6m (that’s better than 20/20 vision without the aid of cameras). Also, I’m glad the pro tennis is upholding its long-held standards for sportsmanship, treating Serena just like John McEnroe when he swore at the linesman in the 1990 Australian open and was disqualified – wait, that was after 3 misconduct violations, and the crowd still cheered for him; I mean like John in 1981 Wimbledon when he swore at the umpire – wait, there was no default, just a $1500 fine afterwards. Well, maybe Serena hasn’t performed well enough in the sport to warrant the same level of consideration as afforded to John McEnroe. Or perhaps rules really are just rules applied equally to all… and that must also be the reason we now have hawk-eye and the challenge system in the US Open, right?
————————————

I’m really laughing out loud right now, because as my 3 year old nephew says, ‘You hit the head on the nail.’


Veno Says:

Valerie Moses says:

“If she is the only one to be suspended and others continue to do so without penalty we will then see what motivated this incident in the first place. RACISM.”

Ehm, actually it would be discrimination, not racism


ShayHay Says:

steve Says:

Roddick will win a Wimbledon title, just like Ivanisevic, who also got beaten in the final multiple times by the greatest players of his era.

Dedication like his will not go unrewarded. And hey, Ivanisevic did it at 30, Roddick is a spring chicken by comparison.

The guy’s made it to the final three times now. He’s perfectly capable of getting there again. If he’s not up against Federer, he’ll win it.
————————

Your last statement says it all. That’s not really the case with the sisters is it? It’s usually the other way around. ‘If so and so is not up against Serena or Venus, they’ll win it….’


derek Says:

Interesting thing about the Williams sisters: Venus would NEVER lay into a lines-person like Serena did last night.

Calling for a ban of Serena is over the top. Justice was served with her losing the match as a result of the point penalty. Serena has been down match point before and come back to win. Her actions tonight denied her the opportunity to do so.


Veno Says:

I doubt(and hope not) Serena will get suspended. She’d for sure get a fine and a slap on the wrist but I hope that ends the issue. Maybe they will urge her to publicly apologize for what happened.


Giner Says:

It took a lot of guts for the line judge to dob Serena in. Not many would do that, especially on a match point. That’s balls that even Serena didn’t think she had.

Thinking back, Serena surrendered without much of a fight because she knew she wouldn’t be able to get out of it. She could have still been hit with 2 code violations even if she hadn’t threatened to kill the line judge. Berating her was worth an ‘unsportsmanlike conduct’ violation, and the F bombs would have gotten her an ‘audible obscenity’ violation. The third violation is a game penalty. She had no defense really.

Apparently Mary Carillo was the only one who called Serena out on her post match interview.

——————

Serena Williams melts down, lists John McEnroe as a hero

Saturday September 12, 2009 11:42 PM By Neil Best

Crazy TV night at the Open.

Enberg, sitting next to McEnroe, says Serena’s meltdown is not what champions do.

Then Serena lists McEnroe first among her tennis heroes.

Then McEnroe says perhaps Serena idolized him for the wrong reasons, and adds he “can’t defend the indefensible.”

Then Mary Carillo throws in a jab at Serena for the disingenuous, Oscar-worthy performance in her post-match news conference.

Who knew tennis could be more fun than a come-from-behind victory by Southern Cal over Ohio State?


fred Says:

To Cindy-Brady,
Ms Brady, it would be inconsistent for Arthur Ashe to speak to Serena as you suggest. He never spoke to anyone that way, including John McEnroe. While you may not like or appreciate her contribution to the sport (wondering if you feel differently about John McEnroe), there is certainly no need to speak ill of Mr. Ashe. Perhaps your frustration has captured the better part of your judgement, as it did Serena.


ShayHay Says:

derek Says:

Interesting thing about the Williams sisters: Venus would NEVER lay into a lines-person like Serena did last night.

Calling for a ban of Serena is over the top. Justice was served with her losing the match as a result of the point penalty. Serena has been down match point before and come back to win. Her actions tonight denied her the opportunity to do so.
———-

But, but, but….she was raised by Richard Williams from Compton and we all know what a ghetto thug he is, so Venus is clearly a ghetto thug as well by default.

****At least, that’s the logic I’m getting on these boards. It’s hilarious enough to make you want to cry.


Maximus Says:

Serena is a bully and her true colors showed today, that was the worst display of anger I have ever seen from a player, she should be totally ashamed of herself. The line person was doing her job, there is no gain for her in this situation just verbal abuse from a bully!


Veno Says:

Now Safina can claim she’s not the only one who chokes in big slam matches, albeit Serena wants to choke a lines woman.


Jay Goldman Says:

Fred- that was very good…sometimes I think there is something behind the scenes that made that “judge” make that call….why didn’t she make it before? Because it was timed to make Serena mad…so that they could steal that match and give it on default to Kim. Again, I am a Clijsters fan but this is just too much- it is obvious to me that this was planned to take away the match from Serena. It is all sickening to watch.


Skorocel Says:

george: „If my kid did this, i would take his racquet away.“

And Richard Williams will probably blame it on racism :-)


loobo Says:

will never watch any game from now on when serena williams appears on screen.


Skorocel Says:

DIANE: „If there was clearly no foot fault the Umpire would have over-rided the lines person’s call, but the umpire did not, so Serena was just unlucky that she foot-faulted at such a bad time.“

Just wondering what would the umpire say then? „Correction, the shoe was out“? :-)


Megan Says:

Veno says:

“Wow, I see Giner, Steve, Cindy_Brady, Dan and Andrew as the only regulars and 20 new names surface on this thread……”

Well, that is because many more people, in their hundreds, actually read tennis blogs but don’t post on them. They only do so when they feel it’s really worth commenting, hence are not regular posters. In case you didn’t know, be informed now…hundreds read, but only a couple of tens post regularly on every single ball strike on a tennis court.

surely, a self-acclaimed ‘knowledgable’ should know this


Skorocel Says:

Margaret: „If Nike does not drop Serena after this…I will never buy another item from them again! Tennis is all about class and Serena has NONE.“

I don’t think they’ll drop her. A bad image is often the best advertisement.


Veno Says:

I guess it will be hard for Nike to keep supplying Serena with their “Delicious” T-shirts :)

They could make a new campaign for t-shirts for her to wear: “the Serena Balls for Banter Uncut”

Could make a killing


MJ Says:

The lineswoman has ruined Serenas career.

It only gets worse. There are reports saying Serena did say the kill word.

Really, what will tennis in WTA be like without Serena? Garbage, and you all know it.


Jay Goldman Says:

Let the players play…Kim could have won it on her own but now we Clijsters fans will never get that satisfaction.


Veno Says:

MJ says: “Really, what will tennis in WTA be like without Serena? Garbage, and you all know it.”

I’m a Serena fan too and you’re right WTA isn’t much without her, but there’s just no excuse for what she’s done. A big faux-pas a la James LeBron


Milan Says:

The tonality and the use of words she used really does give you an idea to the person that she really is. After seeing this incident, it makes me wonder if she would have reacted the way she did if the lines person had been anything but an asian.

The irony is that Serena herself was fighting racism a while back but here she is heaping words that somewhat belittled another human being, making that person somehow less than human.


Oscar Says:

I hope that directors at the US Open take economic action against Serena Williams for the worst example to the youth of the world. I would not want kids going into an event like the US Open if this is what they are going to see and hear.
What she said to the line judge was very clear and now that I have seen it on TV, even with the sound off you can read her lips.
The worst is not what she said on the court, but the fact that she did not apologize at all at the press conference. On the contrary, she put line judge as a liar.
I really hope that directors at the USTA take serious action for the benefit of Serena. If she does not realize that she made a mistake, then she does not deserve our sponsorship.

Sincerely,

Oscar.


Jay Goldman Says:

Veno that was a low blow!


Jay Goldman Says:

about the endorsement t-shirts I mean…


Ray Says:

I can’t believe anyone would condone what Serena did there.

Serena’s response to the foot fault went beyond what I would call a senile response to a set back on a tennis match – even an important tennis match.

The threatening body language Serena displayed towards that lineswoman said a lot more than the words that come out of her mouth. As my wife said, if she were that lineswomen she would have jumped out of her seat and ran away. Even McEnroe’s outbursts didn’t have that threatening edge to them.

There was total disbelief on the fans faces to what they were seeing. If I were that lineswoman I’d sue Serena’s butt in court – forget the tennis match – nobody needs to take that kind of abuse. Over the years Venus has proved to be a really good sport, Serena on the other hand…. ugly stuff.


Jay Goldman Says:

Ray you are an idiot…


Jay Goldman Says:

your mother should be sued for bringing you into the world!


J.K. Says:

Ray Says:

I can’t believe anyone would condone what Serena did there.

Serena’s response to the foot fault went beyond what I would call a senile response to a set back on a tennis match – even an important tennis match.
____________________

“…a SENILE response….”???? Huh? I don’t think Serena’s the one with a senility problem.


Ray Says:

Bring back Justine Henin. She would easily fill the void left by Serena.


fred Says:

Veno – re: choking… clever and hilarious!


Jay Goldman Says:

now Ray you are thinking!


marlorie Says:

veno@ 1:21 says:
“Ehm, actually it would be discrimination, not racism”
………….

Ehm, ACTUALLY, racism is a form of discrimination…just as is sexism, disability discrimination, xenophobia etc.

Just to educate you that discrimination is the collective term for these vices. Then under it, come the different forms, which come under different labels as I’ve indicated above. i.e. racism is discrimination someone ‘coz of their skin colour, xenophobia ‘coz they’re from a different country from you, sexism because they belong to a diferent gender, etc….but they are all discrimation

Some forms of discrimination also don’t have labels, e.g. if someone is discriminated against because she/he is fat, thin, ugly, too beautiful/handsome, has red hair, or for whatever other reason people are discriminated against.

Having said that, I doubt there was any form of discrimination of whichever type in this particular match. If it is found that the foot-fault was wrong, then it was probably a mistake from the lines-judge. If not, only she will be able to know for sure in her deepest of hearts & the rest of us will be left to speculate all sorts of things.


ShayHay Says:

Ray Says:

Bring back Justine Henin. She would easily fill the void left by Serena.
—————–

Hardly…talk about unsportsmanlike. There’s a cheater if I ever saw one. Not to mention an absolute bore to watch.


fred Says:

Jay G – Ray is clearly not “an idiot”, just imaginative.


fed is afraid Says:

go kim
go rafa


Ray Says:

Granted, maybe the senility comment didn’t make total sense, but you know what I mean.


Veno Says:

Marlorie…..nice retort, however I know fully well what both mean.

Again, I will repeat, it would be discrimination(as in one tennis player receiving a different treatment compared to other tennis players breaking the rules) and not racism(discrimination based on race)

I don’t see ANY indication why an eventual discriminative punishment for Serena would be race-related.


Jay Goldman Says:

why not call the foot-fault before? Why wait till then? I definitely think something is crooked with the timing of the call so as to throw the match


Jay Goldman Says:

point taken Fred


Youcannotbeserious Says:

Does no one have any passion anymore?!?!?!? Take me for example. I’m passionate about Sean Randall’s horrible composition of this article! Something must be said, and you all sit here discussing a incident that really doesn’t matter.

Serena was off the entire match. With more than 30 unforced errors, you really can’t expect to win at that level of competition. The real errors that are the issue here are Sean Randall’s errors in writing this article. Who publicly writes like that?!?!


Nancy Says:

I think this type of threat must be normal banter in the hood. Sounds very similar to the time on “Real Housewives of Atlanta” when Lisa (from Inglewood) told Kim, “I will flip you over this couch”. ‘Memba that?


lovetennis Says:

I am a Huge fan of the Williams sisters and, yes, as a schoolteacher and role model I am disappointed by Serena’s over-the-top (though somewhat understandable) behavior…(it was like watching a great movie for two hours and then having the ending suddenly cutoff by something ridiculous). However, I am more disappointed by TWO glaring omissions from all of these posts-FIRST-that this was the SECOND bogus footfault call by this line judge and SECOND-that perhaps Serena’s behavior was subliminally affected by possibly viewing the Connors-Krickstein 1991 match that was aired earlier in the day (while holed up in her hotel room by yet another rain delay) where Connors was practically DEIFIED for verbally assaulting not a linesman, but the CHAIR UMPIRE. He yelled at the umpire repeatedly, telling him at one point to “get yer ass” out of here and taunted him with every subsequent winning point. Oh, but since it was his 39th birthday and big comeback, all was forgiven. And those calling for her to be banned for 3-5 years!?
Can anyone say MIchael “animal torturer” Vick? Is her momentary lapse of judgment at matchpoint on a ridiculous
call really in the same category as this? Serena has already
paid her price…..in the words of John Lennon…..”Let it Be”…….


Veno Says:

“Jay Goldman Says:

Veno that was a low blow!”

No, that was a joke Jay.
Like a comedian would make, not in the sense of me wanting to bad-mouth Serena. I’m a fan of hers!

We could all do with a little humour sometimes to lighten a heavy topic don’t you agree?


Jay Goldman Says:

ok Veno…but you must hope Serena does not read that comment!


Veno Says:

I’d say it to her face as a joke of course. She could probably laugh about it :)


Veno Says:

Would be cool to meet her. I think she’s great!


steve Says:

“I think this type of threat must be normal banter in the hood.”

What the hell? Why don’t you just call the sisters “nappy-headed h*s”, like Don Imus did to that basketball team, and be done with it?

Don’t be shy about your racism. Just come out and say it!


Jay Goldman Says:

yea…she would probably be a good sport about it. It is during a SF match that means so much obviously!


Leonard Says:

Serena should be very happy if everything is done like it is.
She abused line judge with “gang words”.
If some one other use same words on the street, that person could be under arrest with possibility of spending few months’ behind bars.
If USTA does not bounce her from tournament, it would be shameful for all American and for all tennis world.


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

The great white hope wins!!!

Thank you Jesus!!!


Mindy Says:

Dan,

It is perhaps fortunate that you were not at Serena’s post match press conference. One of the media people asked her if the rain delays and the waiting might have contributed to her blowup. She was beyond rude to him. Here was this guy being silly enough to hand her an excuse, the same rationale you are using to try to excuse her disgraceful behavior. Serena looked at him like he was a piece of dirt and said – I don’t understand. When he tried to explain, she then said that was the silliest thing she ever heard. She said that you get mad when it’s hot on the court, not under these conditions. So much for any remorse or even an attempt to apologize to everyone for her behavior.

I am not a fan of the Williams sisters because of their long history of boorish, unsportmanlike, rude behavior. They are sore winners and sore losers. Serena’s real problem was the Kim outplayed her and she was on the brink of losing. So what better time to take out her own inability to play well, than to threaten and shout obscenities at a linesperson. It was a self-indulgent temper tantrum, inseemly for a tennis champion.

Serena was also incredibly disrespectful to Kim. That poor woman had to stand there and watch this embarrassing spectacle play out in front of her. She couldn’t even celebrate her win. That was just rotten on the part of Serena. I don’t know that I will ever be able to watch her or forgive her despicable behavior.

I also dislike the attempt to justify Serena’s behavior by saying that the men get away with it all the time. I have never seen any male tennis player display that kind of abusive behavior.

Dan, I don’t know if you just don’t like Rafa or all Spanish tennis players, but your analogy referencing Ferrer’s behavior at Cincy bears no similarity whatsoever to the meltdown that Serena had. I have heard Andy Murray cursing at himself on court. You can’t help but hear it. It’s one thing to curse at yourself, but it’s quite another to spew profanity and threats to an official. No one gets away with that. Serena is no exception.

I would be totally okay with Serena being suspended for a while. The fact that she didn’t even attempt to offer an apology for her behavior and actually tried to play the victim, made it even worse. She has been in the rarefied air of the upper echelons of the tennis world so long that she has forgotten how to act like a decent human being. What a complete embarrassment!


ShayHay Says:

Nancy Says:

I think this type of threat must be normal banter in the hood. Sounds very similar to the time on “Real Housewives of Atlanta” when Lisa (from Inglewood) told Kim, “I will flip you over this couch”. ‘Memba that?
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These type of comments are why I will defend Serena until the end. Thanks for making it easy.


ShayHay Says:

Veno Says:

Would be cool to meet her. I think she’s great!
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I’ve met her three times and she really is a sweet person. She likes to crack jokes a lot.


Youcannotbeserious Says:

Don Imus wrongly persecuted!! He is an entertainer and should be able to say whatever he wants. Sean Randall however should never write anything for public reading. The composition example he sets for our children, and our children’s children is horrible. Did he submit this via text message?

omg! serena totly flipd! rotflmao! lolololololololololololololololololololo!


ShayHay Says:

steve Says:

“I think this type of threat must be normal banter in the hood.”

What the hell? Why don’t you just call the sisters “nappy-headed h*s”, like Don Imus did to that basketball team, and be done with it?

Don’t be shy about your racism. Just come out and say it!
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It’s people like this who ensure that Al Sharpton has a cause….thanks a lot losers. Now he’s never going away.


Veno Says:

ShayHay Says:

Veno Says:

Would be cool to meet her. I think she’s great!
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I’ve met her three times and she really is a sweet person. She likes to crack jokes a lot.

Cool, I never had that pleasure but you confirm what I think. Thanks for your feedback!

@Jay, seems to me you better light up a little my friend, taking a lost tennis match way too seriously


Veno Says:

light m/b lighten


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

Kim Takes over two years off then comes back and wipes out both Williams sisters in the U.S. Open in just her third tournament back!!! Priceless!!!

Wait till Justine Henin comes back, her and Kim will probably keep the William’s sisters from ever winning a grandslam again!!!


Nancy Says:

Oh, lighten up people. It was a comparison to Real Housewives of Atlanta, ’cause that’s what she sounded like! (You may not share my upscale viewing habits though.)


Jay Goldman Says:

it is Serena’s humanity/honesty that makes her interesting…don’t we have enough little robots in skirts out there? Ok…yes, the comments were strong…but give me a break- does anyone really think she’s gonna put a tennis ball down the line-judges mouth? Come on….get real. As for respecting line judges- yes we should! But that call in that moment would make anybody furious. Even the most cool-tempered players. Let’s be fair about it.


Rush Says:

I think Serena Williams should be suspended from the tour for 6 months. It doesn’t matter if you are ranked #1, #2 or #1212. You absolutely can’t tell a referee or linesperson “If I could, I would take this —- ball and shove it down your —- throat”. Even if the foot fault call was incorrect, Serena’s behavior was completely unconscionable.

A foot fault is a foot fault. If it happens on the 1st point of the match, then it needs to be called. If it happens on match point, then it needs to be called. Any tennis player should know that.


blah Says:

Mindy sums it up pretty well. Though out of the sisters, Venus is much better than Serena.

Also, why are people questioning the foot fault call. I ask again, what makes it so different from a regular double fault and why should lines judge overlook it in any situation? Does double faulting on match point means you get to replay the point or is your opponent supposed to deal with it?

It was serena’s fault her foot hit the line, just like it’s a player’s fault when their second serve lands outside the box, even if only by inches and in a tight situation. She deliberately got another ball from the ball boy in order to be able to make her threat and to make the lines judge visualize the ball she threatened to shove down her throat.

I remember a similar situation with the hot-tempered Marat Safin at uso last year and even he kept his cool (more than serena) and went to the ref instead of threatening the lines judge. Serena deserved to be booed off court.

Veno Says:
“Now Safina can claim she’s not the only one who chokes in big slam matches, albeit Serena wants to choke a lines woman.”

LOL. comment of the day.


fred Says:

Justine fill Serena shoes?? C’mon. Btw, you can see her hand-waving and denial as clearly now on utube as during the broadcast in the ’03 French Open… yeah, she’s a cheat caught on tape – but a cheat with enough clout not get get penalized for it. That said, I say bring her back. She wasn’t voted off the island. Tanya Harding didn’t slow her down. She simply has not managed what all of the active players on the tour have – they’ve worked out their lives in a manner that allows them to continue playing.


steve Says:

“You may not share my upscale viewing habits though.”

Racism AND class snobbery! It’s a twofer!


ShayHay Says:

Ernie the Kim fan Says:

Kim Takes over two years off then comes back and wipes out both Williams sisters in the U.S. Open in just her third tournament back!!! Priceless!!!

Wait till Justine Henin comes back, her and Kim will probably keep the William’s sisters from ever winning a grandslam again!!!
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HAHAHAHAHA…that’s laughable. How many slams did Clijsters win before she had her baby? And she was in her prime then. Please bring back Henin the cheat. Now there will be someone for me to dislike more than Shreikapova.


Veno Says:

Henin won’t make a comeback. And even if she did, I doubt if she could really challenge for the slam titles again. The French probably, but Wimby and the HC slams? Highly doubt it.


Nancy Says:

Steve, yes, Real Housewives is only for the very elite privileged folks like myself.


fred Says:

Mindy, FYI, the Williams sisters are actually two different people. Only Serena was involved in this “foot fault tirade” …or can you really cite ANY incident that justfies your inclusion of the other separate individual, Venus Williams in your remarks?


ShayHay Says:

Don’t take my previous message as dislike for Clijsters. I do like her and her style of play. Henin on the other hand….no thanks


Jay Goldman Says:

waiting for a Chris Evert comeback ala Geoge Foreman!


marlorie Says:

Veno@2:01am,
“…nice retort, however I know fully well what both mean…..”

I knew you probably knew…because almost everyone above 5yrs old does, but felt I had to reply ‘coz your response was rather senseless. Perhaps you should have made yourself clear instead of just pouting off ‘Ehm, actually it would be discrimination, not racism’……because this statement clearly indicates that discrimination is and racism are two different things.

Kindly remember that you are posting on a blog to people who do not know you, & do not know what you are thinking, so something like “nice retort, however I know fully well what both mean”…doesn’t make sense. You know, but since you’re posting on a blog, it is a good idea to communicate what’s in your head properly in writing. Your post at 1:21 did not expound on what you meant. Just one sentence saying ”Ehm, actually it would be discrimination, not racism’

“I don’t see ANY indication why an eventual discriminative punishment for Serena would be race-related.”

Firstly, there is nothing like ‘discriminative punishment’. A punishement is just a punishment. Once something is discriminative, then it is WRONG. Serena broke the rules, so she was punished just as any other player would be. No question of ‘discriminative.’ Once it is discriminative, then it will have to have a label. Discrimination against what??? & that is race the question of race, gender, nationality, etc, come in ……SO…the very fact that you say ‘discriminative punishement’ means if such a punishment is given, then yes, people have a right to question because there is absolutely no room for any form of discrimination.
*a dictionary would be handy for the meaning of the word ‘discriminate’*

Secondly, because this is America, the USA. And in America, we do have a racism problem & it work both ways…but it is a fact of life that black people are discriminated against more. For this reason, any major incident involving an ethnic minority in America will always raise the race question. It is also happening with our president-when someone criticises him, e.g. Rep Joe Wilson, is it racist or just a genuine criticism. (for anyone who follows America politics.)

This is the cold hard brutal reality in America. All are equal under the constitution, but the reality is very different. So what people from other continents may not see as racism, may appear to be so to an American, simply because this is a problem which has been there for over three centuries. Funny that the hawk-eye system was actually put in place because of an incident in America, also involving serena, which was viewed as racist in America by some people. This is the way it is her.

And as I’ve said, only the line-judge would know if she is racist or not. No one else would know.


ShayHay Says:

fred Says:

Mindy, FYI, the Williams sisters are actually two different people. Only Serena was involved in this “foot fault tirade” …or can you really cite ANY incident that justfies your inclusion of the other separate individual, Venus Williams in your remarks?
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They were both raised by Richard Williams in Compton????? Of course there’s no reason to include Venus in this, but they always find a way to crucify both of them at once.


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

“Henin the cheat”, ShayHay?

According to Martina Navratilova all Serena and Sharipova ever do is cheat with their continous 10 million decibel continous screaming during a match. Serena has cheated her way to every grandslam she ever won.


Blank Says:

Serena made a very bad mistake and got penalized for it. It’s not like she was robbed of a win. She was losing the match, and lost it because of temper.

To do that in front of millions of people is just plain wrong, and she is the most experienced player out there. At the end, it was a deserving result for both players.

Just because a great champion is down match point, that doesn’t mean she shouldn’t be called for foot fault. It’s a pity few people here use that just


Youcannotbeserious Says:

No you meant light up. You make a good point though. We all should…I just did. Perhaps that’s Sean Randall’s excuse for submitting such a poorly written article. No one in a sober state would post such tripe.


fed is afraid Says:

they won’t have the guts to suspend her.
she will be heavily fined, but so what?
she has boatloads of dough.


Blank Says:

wanted to finish my post with “as an excuse”


Greg Says:

I love how everyone acts like they are a angel. We’ve all been angry, pissed off, swore when we shouldn’t of, we’re human. She is a Great player, but even greater because she is HUMAN. What she did isn’t a disgrace.. I’ve seen her many times and she lets her emotions get to her sometimes and she flipped out bad this time. She was definitely at fault, but when people here comment about this occurrence being a sad day for tennis, that’s a joke. You can even hear John McEnroe saying that you can’t call that. He’s a legend, he’s been through it all when it comes to tennis so respect that. She’s is still a great player and had a bad day. Congrats to Kim.


Mindy Says:

blah,

I will give you that point about Venus. Maybe it’s not completely fair to lump them together, particularly in this instance. I don’t think Venus would ever display that kind of outrageous behavior on court.

I am just surprised that a number of people here are trying to justify her behavior. Did you listen to her post match press conference? Not only did she not even apologize for her behavior, she even tried to cast herself in the role of the victim in this whole debacle.

If anyone was truly victimized, it was Kim for being robbed of her moment of triumph. Now there will be an asterisk next to her win here. As far as the argument that Serena was poised to serve two aces and hold her serve to go to a tiebreak and win, well that is taking speculation and hypothesis to new heights. Serena was outplayed throughout the entire match. Her serve wasn’t working and Kim matched her shot for shot. Serena doesn’t like to lose, as we know all too well, so she took her frustration out on the linesperson who was just doing her job.

Also, the linesperson did NOT go to the chair umpire on her own. She just sat there and took the repeated abuse and threats from Serena and then you could see her look up and get up because the chair umpire wanted to know what was going on. Maybe if Miss Bigmouth has stopped after her first outburst, then the chair umpire might not have intervened. They could well have let it go. But Serena was the one who wouldn’t let it go. She kept on going after the linesperson over and over and over. It’s the most appalling thing I have ever seen.


Jay Goldman Says:

Ernie you are right- the screaming is a definite distraction to the player on the other side of the court


ShayHay Says:

“Henin the cheat”, ShayHay?

According to Martina Navratilova all Serena and Sharipova ever do is cheat with their continous 10 million decibel continous screaming during a match. Serena has cheated her way to every grandslam she ever won.
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So because Martina says it, it is so—-hahaha. No dice pal.
When they make grunting illegal then it will be considered cheating and guess what….nearly every player both male and female will be cheating because they all do it. And it definitely didn’t start with Serena on the women’s side. Monica Seles anyone????

Thanks for playing.


ShayHay Says:

Mindy Says:
Maybe if Miss Bigmouth has stopped after her first outburst, then the chair umpire might not have intervened. They could well have let it go. But Serena was the one who wouldn’t let it go. She kept on going after the linesperson over and over and over. It’s the most appalling thing I have ever seen.

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Really?? I’ve seen worse….It was pretty darn awful, but I’ve seen worse.


Veno Says:

@marlorie

Please professor, talk or write like that to students attending your classes. You are giving me advice on how I should write on a blog?

And nice try to appear intelligent in explaining all the semantics of the words I used incorrectly.

The interesting question here is why you feel the need to be taken seriously as an erudite person.

Furthermore, if you weren’t able to ascern WHY I made said remark then it’s back to class for you again.

But just for you I’ll give a shout-out to everyone here to give you recognition for your clearly amazing intellect and praise you superior, as it seems to me this is your goal in posting to me in such a condescending way.


fred Says:

Ernie, Ernie – Love Kim if you choose, but honor her by not sounding silly. Are you quoting Martina without citing any evidence or suggesting that Serena and Maria are somehow less honest because you (and/or Martina) don’t like the sounds they make? Either way, such half-thoughts would not flatter Kim.


dennis strohmeyer Says:

if serena was white, would all this bad mouthing be happening?


Greg Says:

Have you ever seen or played a athletic game? There’s a reason why EVERY Athletic event has FIGHTS it’s intense, competitive and everyone wants to win. People try to kill each other and fight each other in sports all the time, but do people talk about them being banned from their sport for 5 years? Give me a break, Serena didn’t touch the girl said a few angry words and that was it. This is a sport, not ballerina.


Mindy Says:

Fred and others who have made the same point –

Please refer to my post above in which I stated that I should not have included Venus, particularly in this instance. So don’t get all excited and start going overboard in defending Venus, Serena AND their father. I didn’t mention their father and neither should you. He is not the issue here. I am not questioning his parenting skills, because his daughter is old enough to know better. It has nothing to do with him and I resent the fact that you are implying that I have attacked him.

This is the kind of argument used to put someone on the defensive or avoid the real issue. I don’t have to cite any specific incidents about Venus. Of the two sisters, she is the better behaved. I refuse to allow anyone to use absurd comments and bring in people who are not involved and who I did not insult or even reference. That is my last comment on the matter.


Jay Goldman Says:

The woman’s final will be unusual in one respect- no grunting/screaming from either player! Clijsters and Wosniaki go about their business quietly do they not? It is refreshing.


Mindy Says:

Shayhay,

Okay, I will take you up on that comment. Exactly when have you seen worse?


Veno Says:

True Jay!


Greg Says:

Jay, you never know until the game happens. If there is a wrong call called, then someone might explode. That’s just the nature of sports.. and that’s why we love it


ShayHay Says:

Jay Goldman Says:

The woman’s final will be unusual in one respect- no grunting/screaming from either player! Clijsters and Wosniaki go about their business quietly do they not? It is refreshing.
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It’s going to be boring as all get out. Clijsters is probably going to walk all over Wozniacki. It might last 45 minutes. Whoopdie freakin’ do.. Now a Clijsters/Williams final would have been golden, without the line judge of course. Who wants to watch two players with similar “quiet” styles trade base liners? Where’s the excitement in that. I would rather watch Shreikapova.


Youcannotbeserious Says:

Preach it Veno!! Marlorie puts up the facade of erudite and learned, but we see through it. A true learned person would point out Sean Randall’s poor grasp of the English language before discussing any discrepancy in your use of words improperly.


Greg Says:

Agreed with Shay. Serena was at fault for yelling and threatening, but she really felt in her mind that it was the wrong call. She will probably feel bad later on, but I love how people here talk like they are angels that never ever threatened anyone because if you play a sport, it’s bound to happen.


Jay Goldman Says:

Shayhay- the grunting/screaming issue is more about what is fair to the player on the other side of the court. I am a fan of Serena’s talent but I DO have an issue with her distracting the opponent and interfering with her opponents concentration and thereby gaining an additional advantage.


Metz Says:

8. Foot Fault
The Server shall throughout the delivery of the Service:
a. Not change his position by walking or running. The Server shall not by slight movement of the feet which do not materially affect the location originally taken up by him, be deemed “to change his position by walking or running”.
b. Not touch, with either foot, any area other than that behind the base-line within the imaginary extensions of the centre-mark and side-lines.

USTA Comment: The key to understanding this rule is to realize that the Server’s feet must be at rest immediately before beginning to serve. Immediately thereafter, the delivery of the service begins with any arm or racket motion, and ends when the racket contacts the ball (or misses the ball in attempt to strike it).

If either foot touches the Court, including the baseline, or the imaginary extension of a line specified in Rule 8b. after his feet are at rest but before he strikes the ball, he has committed a foot fault.
There can be no foot fault if the Server does not attempt to strike at the ball. As long as the Server makes no attempt to strike at the ball, it is immaterial whether he catches it in his hand or his racket or lets it drop to the ground.

USTA Comment: This rule covers the most decisive stroke in the game, and there is no justification for its not being obeyed by players and enforced by officials. No official has the right to instruct any umpire to disregard violations of it. In a non-officiated match, the Receiver, or his partner, may call foot faults after all efforts (appeal to the server, request for an umpire, etc.) have failed and the foot faulting is so flagrant as to be clearly perceptible from the Receiver’s side.

It is improper for any official to warn a player that he is in danger of having a foot fault called on him. On the other hand, if a player asks for an explanation of how he foot faulted, either the Line Umpire or the Chair Umpire should give him that information.

shayhay clearly you don’t understand the rules of tennis.

And i agreee there is racism involved but it’s not serena who is the victim it’s the asian.


marlorie Says:

Veno,

“Please professor, talk or write like that to students attending your classes.”

Sorry to dissappoint you. I’ m not a professor. & will never be one. Perhaps you are the professor, seeing that you are always correcting people on these blogs. You give it, but no, Veno can’t take it. If ou have students, go ahead and talk to them as you wish.

“You are giving me advice on how I should write on a blog?”

You made a senseless post & I answered it, then you tried to explain yourself later on after making the senseless post. So I said, perhaps you should explained yourself in the first place.

“The interesting question here is why you feel the need to be taken seriously as an erudite person.”
Same question to you. This coming from the Veno constantly criticising others & posting numerous book readings in the name of life experience. It’s a blog. I post what I wish. No one has told you or anybody to take me or any other person seriously. If you wish to do so, it is YOUR choice.

“Furthermore, if you weren’t able to ascern WHY I made said remark then it’s back to class for you again.”

No, back to class to you for not being able to communicate what’s in your head. so..BACK TO CLASS TO YOU.

“But just for you I’ll give a shout-out to everyone here to give you recognition for your clearly amazing intellect and praise you superior, as it seems to me this is your goal in posting to me in such a condescending way.”

Again, sorry to disappoint you. I do not need any recognition from a person I do not know, more so a fellow faceless blogger. If you feel my post is condescending, on a blog! then you must have a huge inferiority complex. Once again, Veno can always give it, always criticizing & correcting, but no, the same can’t be done to you.


Giner Says:

Matt Cronin picks both men’s semi finals tomorrow to go 5 sets. While I doubt that will happen, if it did it will be tough to recover for both players, especially the second finalist.

He even says Nadal needs to prolong the match and make it as physical as he can to put away Del Potro. That’s going to kill him if he makes the final. He’ll have less than 24 hours of recover. He said in his last interview that if a semi finalist gets another semi like the Verdasco one in Australia, it will be impossible to win the final.

If both matches do end up going 5 sets, this ladies final might have a very late start.


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

Fred you like “evidence” so google “Kim Clijsters” right now and look at the articles under “new results for Kim Clisjters” and notice the articles:

“Serena Williams’ makes a fool of herself and deserves punishment” – Los Angeles Times

“Serena’s outburst to warrant investigation” -yahoo News

“Clijsters Into Final – Serena Exits In Disgrace” -Sky News (England)

“No apology from beaten Serena after rant” – Reuters India

The press of America and and the rest of the world is turning bigtime against the USA’s biggest tennis phony after what she pulled off last night.


ShayHay Says:

Johnny Mac AO ’90. Way worse in my opinion.

Youzhny at the Sony Ericcson, I forget which year, but there was blood shed. That was pretty hilarious though.

Johnny Mac again ’87 World team cup final. I mean he was really yelling.

Johnny Mac Stockholm Open ’84…again a classic.

Jeff Tarango ’95 Wimbledon…..wow now that was just….crazy.


Jay Goldman Says:

Shayhay- you are off by 15 minutes…Clijsters in 60 minutes with the win


Giner Says:

Topspin Says:

@Giner,

“are you kidding me???

Serena was booed as she was leaving the stadium.

people were clapping and quite happy when Kim was announced the winner and she left.

got tivo? watch again.”

I think I should have reworded it. They weren’t booing Kim, rather they were booing either the referee who called it, or the outcome — the fact that this was how the match was concluded. I don’t think they were booing at either player. The crowd isn’t going to boo an American player.

The boos were definitely louder than the cheers. I couldn’t hear any.


Jwimbley Says:

Serena is Human.WOW! ahow about that. And ALL humans can and do make mistakes–with bad timing,sometimes. And she did say Clisters playing was INCREDIBLE!. That is not arrogance. She respected Clisters INCREDIBLE PLAYING,which she was. Thank line judges for NOT seeing a third and defining set,where Clisters could have exhilaration of WINNING the points,which she was enroute doing with her quickness of foot,strategic ball placement and sharp mind. Serena’s frustration came from lines judge calling “foot fault” TWICE on Serena’s critical point. She had to feel she was cheated since fot faults only happened here in USA, where her own countrymen were applauding HER misses.


ShayHay Says:

Jay Goldman Says:

Shayhay- the grunting/screaming issue is more about what is fair to the player on the other side of the court. I am a fan of Serena’s talent but I DO have an issue with her distracting the opponent and interfering with her opponents concentration and thereby gaining an additional advantage.
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Ok ….well that’s where we differ. I think you need to do everything short of cheating in your power to win. If you have quirks that work to your advantage, by all means use them. Is that ‘polite’ in the tennis world, no, but it’s not illegal. What if I thought Nadal’s butt picking was a disadvantage to me because it was a distraction??? Does that mean he shouldn’t do it anymore? I don’t think so.


ShayHay Says:

Jay Goldman Says:

Shayhay- you are off by 15 minutes…Clijsters in 60 minutes with the win
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You think it will last that long? Only if someone takes a pee break…. This match is going to be an absolute snore fest. Wozniacki is just…blah. I like Clijsters, but she’s not jump out of your seat exciting.


ShayHay Says:

Giner Says:

I think I should have reworded it. They weren’t booing Kim, rather they were booing either the referee who called it, or the outcome — the fact that this was how the match was concluded. I don’t think they were booing at either player. The crowd isn’t going to boo an American player.

The boos were definitely louder than the cheers. I couldn’t hear any.
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Honestly I think they were booing the outcome. Because it started as Serena went over to congratulate Clijsters. I think they were upset that the match ended that way.


Jay Goldman Says:

ok…


Jay Goldman Says:

Shayhay- do you grunt/scream when you play tennis? Just curious….I myself use the trainer distraction to slow my opponent down! (lol)


Giner Says:

Mary Says:

“Hopefully, tennis officials will crack down on other violations such as well-timed bathroom breaks, injury timeouts, bs hawkeye reviews, and taking five years before serving a ball.”

Besides the last one, all of those are within the rules. It’s going to be difficult to crack down. How do officials know if a bathroom break is a strategic one or legit? Do they go in there and measure how much urine they release? Hawkeye reviews, again, how do you know if the player didn’t genuinely think it deserved a challenge? Sometimes people don’t actually believe the challenge will succeed but they want to use it anyway just to be sure, for peace of mind. It’s impossible to legislate against these things.

Injury timeouts; only the player knows first hand how painful or debilitating their condition is.

The only one you suggested that can be cracked down on is time between points. Players don’t really count the seconds in their head, so it’s hard to blame them for being 5 seconds off. And at what point does the clock begin? What I would suggest is an onscreen clock below the hawkeye replay screen. You get 25 seconds, so one beep at 20, and a double beep at 25. Umpire uses discretion on whether to issue a code violation. They probably won’t if the player took 27 seconds instead of 25. If the player hears the beeps, it gives them a reference on how much time they have left and they will be less likely to take too long.

But you know what? Part of the reason Nadal is tough mentally is because he uses that long time he takes to gather his thoughts on what needs doing, focus, and to concentrate on the task at hand no matter how daunting.

However, it could backfire; if players get timed, some players might take longer than they normally would have simply because they know they have more time than they were using.


Jay Goldman Says:

taking a break for a supposed pulled muscle etc/etc


ShayHay Says:

Jay Goldman Says:

Shayhay- do you grunt/scream when you play tennis? Just curious….I myself use the trainer distraction to slow my opponent down! (lol)
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;-) I occasionally grunt on serve, and every now and then when I get a nice high one for my two handed backhand.


Jay Goldman Says:

Shayhay: would like to play you sometime when you come by xxxxx (can not say the city for fear of sanctions by the tennis authorities over my slow-down tactics on the court!)


Kimo Says:

Serena should be ashamed. She’s had a terrible atittude all year and it’s time she got punished for it.

Good for Clijsters though, coz Serena, abnoxious as she may be, looked unbeatable all tournament.

As I’ve said before, I’m cheering for Wozniacki, but I think the Open would have a much more dramatic result if Clijsters wins it, since this is her first major in a loooooong time.

On a side note, if Clijsters does win it, I think the top 10 WTA players should all come out together to a press conference and say: “We suck.”

Just a thought.


Jay Goldman Says:

starts with a T and ends with an A !!


Fran Says:

When a bowler’s foot goes over the line in cricket it is a no-ball, pure and simple. Only the umpire decides. If he’s wrong,the bowler wears it. It doesn’t come down to colour, religion, gender, social standing or anything else. What’s with all this discussion about class? Serena’s behaviour on court and subsequent press conference was plain appalling.
“It’s just not cricket.”


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

kamret thanks for the link to the Los Angles Times Article which includes the quotes from the after match press conference by Serena:

“Q. Would you [Serena] be interested to see if you actually foot faulted?

A. [Serena]I’m pretty sure I did. If she called a foot fault, she must have seen a foot fault. I mean, she was doing her job. I’m not going to knock her for not doing her job.”

Serena is even dummer than I thought she was for she stated she is “pretty sure” she foot faulted and she is “not going to knock her[the lines woman] for not doing her job”. That being the case when then be so stupid to make sure you can’t win the match?


fred Says:

Ernie, I didn’t intend to stress you. And I’m sure that I misunderstand your “evidence” remark, since you cited opinion related articles. You see, you used terms like “cheat” and “phony”. Cheat usually refers to someone breaking rules. When you call her a “phony”, I expect that you suggest that she somehow acquired her titles under false pretenses. I don’t see how perceptions of her attitude, as noted in the articles you reference apply. I don’t see any notation from you identifying ANY occasion of getting around rules to win. Call her conduct unsportsmanlike if you wish, but a “cheat”? I can’t figure out what you mean by this that is consistent with Webster’s Unabridged. As for “phony”, what has she claimed that you deem inaccurate? I simply do not see a connective flow to your argument or “evidence.” Sorry.


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

I think I am even dummer than I thought I was, that last comment of mine should have ended “why then be so stupid to make sure you can’t win the match?”


Jay Goldman Says:

Kimo- good point…how can a player (Clijsters)out on maternity leave come back and win it all? Speaks volumes about the rest of the field or about new training techniques for pregnant women/ new mothers!


fred Says:

does anyone here think that the women’s final will showcase a higher level of skill than in the clijsters-williams match? does anyone think it will be more exciting (or even interesting)?


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

I “cited opinion related articles” Fred, and that seems to bother you in some way? Wake up Fred, every comment here concerning this Sean Randall article, including yours and mine, are “opinion related” comments on the great Serena fiasco of last night.


Jay Goldman Says:

Ernie- what Serena did was bad…but in the interest of the sport in my opinion the tennis higher-ups at the US Open should have let them finish the match…they made a bad situation worse. Why bring even more attention to a bad stuation? Play on! The sport is bigger than any bad line call or outburst. No more tennis on Sundays so the top players can get to church and get religion!


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

Fred asks “does anyone here think that the women’s final will showcase a higher level of skill than in the clijsters-williams match?”

I do Fred, I predict the final won’t see the loser of the match losing match point by going over to a line person and saying that she could shove the f’n tennis ball down the line person’s f’n throat.


Colin Says:

Jay, there’s always amazement expressed when female athletes come back after giving birth and do well. But childbirth is not an illness, is it? It is a natural process which women’s bodies have evolved to deal with, and someone like Kim was super fit to begin with. Certainly, in the bad old days when women had about seven kids they’d be worn out, but a first birth for a healthy young woman is not going to do her any harm.


Jay Goldman Says:

Ernie you are right in that it doesn’t hurt to have two ladies playing tennis for the final. But Serena’s game is still top notch, in spite of her temper. And most fans want to see good tennis…even at the expense of a temper tantrum laced with expletives. That is the rare exception to Serena’s game.


fred Says:

Ernie – Let me help you out. When you have a chance, look up “cheat”. It’s not a matter of public opinion. If you are simply name-calling, then ok, the words you choose don’t really matter. I just thought you were attempting to make an intelligent point earlier, instead of just ranting. Clearly I could have been mistaken.


Mike Says:

I’ve read most of the posts on this subject and must say I’ve never seen such a load of garbage in my life. It is a shame that there are so many racists, white & black, associated with tennis.

The facts are:
1) Williams was down in this match and chances are Clijsters would have won anyway.
2) The linesperson called a foot fault at a critical time bringing us to match point.
3) Serena lost her cool and cursed and threatened the woman.
4) She received a point violation thus losing the game, set & match.

Many have said the linesperson made a bad call; I wasn’t there, she was.

The issue with Serena was not the profanity, but the threat. Did she deserve the penalty? In my opinion, yes. If the circumstances were different and Clijsters had made the threat she should have been penalized.

Should Serena be suspended for 5 years? Of course not. Her actions were inexcusable, but a 5-year suspension would end her career.

Why does race have to enter in to this? The guys I play with on a regular basis are white- and black. And they are all friends. And more. As one of our group said one night, “We have a brotherhood, here.” Frankly, skin color doesn’t matter to me. It’s the heart & soul that matters.


Jay Goldman Says:

Colin- out of curiosity, how far along in a pregnancy can a woman safely play tennis on a competitive level?


Emi Says:

It’s surprising to read that some people are still insisting there was no foot-fault…tennis is a sport, and every sport game has its own rules to be kept. No one has the right to deny what has been judged by the linesperson. Let’s play fair. I hate to see any player smash his/her racquet or curse others on the court.


Jay Goldman Says:

I think Kim Clijsters could beat them all in the ninth month with twins! She might need a water break! (no pun intended)


Kimo Says:

If Serena isn’t penalized, by being suspended from play for six months to a year, tennis will be forever stained.


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

Jay Goldman I agree with you to a degree concerning your “but in the interest of the sport in my opinion the tennis higher-ups at the US Open should have let them finish the match”. I hated to see that match end the way it did.

I don’t think they should have changed the rules for that particular match though as the way the match ended invoked the rules setup from the beginning of the match.

can you imagine the howl against Serena that would have broken out against Serena if they had contined to play and Serena came back to win the match when the match was actually begun under rules that stated she lost the match for what she did?

I think the rules for last night’s match should be changed for the future. In view of the fact the current penalty can be extremely severe as it cost Serena match point I believe that letting a match contine should also be severe such as something along the lines of causing the particular game the offence occurs in being reset so that the non offendeing player has 40 points and the offender no points. And if the match is still on in the next game then that game being set to the non offender has 30 points and the offender no points. My plan or one similar to it would still maintain a severe penalty but at least the match would still go on.


Jay Goldman Says:

since we are the only ones still awake I will address your point. I think penalyzing her will only bring more unwanted publicity to the incident. Best to sweep it under the rug and forget about it….hope that the public focuses on the next bit of bad news. what do you think?


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

Fred thanks for your “help”.


Jay Goldman Says:

Ernie- anything is better than what they did last night….giving the game to Clijsters. The game should not be ended because of a foot-fault and subsequent temper-tantrum. But I can see the viewpoint of pro-ettiquette people too….what about the innocent little kids we are trying to get interested in tennis? In any case, ending the match like that only brings attention to the bad situation. Why exacerbate the situation by calling attention to it?


fred Says:

why not just add foot faults to the challenge list and prohibit all comments to linesmen and umpires?

i think we all wanted to see the match decided by exchanging strokes instead of conversations.


Mike Says:

Kim is a true champion who also showed during the scene, to be a great person. She did not want to win that way. However, she deserves all the credit for being in the final. It is not her fault and she cannot control what the opponent does to herself, because Serena, and only Serena, did this to herself. The other actors in the scene were only playing their parts by the rules. Not doing so would have been unfair to the rest of the players, to the public and to tennis in general. Serena – or any other player – needs to understand that there are consequences to bad behavior and to attempts to brake the rules.
Sure, the competitiveness and will to win of a player like Serena makes her also very emotional, but if you do not control your emotional intelligence, it can act against you, as in this case (and others in the past).
Serena should publicly accept her total responsibility on this and apologize to several people: Kim, the public and the lines-woman included. She should also give full credit to Kim for her victory.


Jay Goldman Says:

that is an absolute fabulous idea Fred!


Jay Goldman Says:

still there are those people, Fred, who would say baseline judges don’t start telling the players about foot-faults at that popint in the match…I guess John McEnroe said as much


Tazewell Says:

@marlorie:

wow… i mean, really, WOW. i haven’t read entertaining stuff like that in ages. i can see that you’re really trying and i think it’s great, commendable even. bravo – never give up. but, can i just ask what makes you the authority on branding veno’s post as “senseless”? because i, for one, read the exact same phrase you did and it made complete sense to me right away. your poorly constructed, phrased and punctuated drivel, on the other hand, not so much. sounded more like you were venting than making any sort of real point (was it about discrimination and race in america or proper blogging and being able to take criticism? i’m really at a loss here). also, perhaps you didn’t notice, but pretty much everything you’re accusing veno of doing, you’re doing yourself (making senseless statements, being condescending, not being able to take criticism). but regardless, kudos to both you and veno for helping me pass the time during a rare episode of insomnia. it was just as unexpected and entertaining as serena’s tantrum last night or seeing that woman duke it out with barney frank on health care (no offense, veno). now i’m all ready to get some rest before “super sunday”! go delpo!


Jay Goldman Says:

goodnight everybody and thanks for chatting! You are all very interesting people….

God Bless tennis (and Serena) even in this dark hour. May it prosper and grow. The game is big enough and strong enough that it can handle any one player’s mistakes.


Susan Says:

Unlike other line judge calls in tennis (on big courts), there is no video or computer challenge for foot faults. The fact is it does not matter if it was or was not a foot fault – that is how it was called and the only recourse Serena had for challenging the call was with the umpire (never with the line judge who only called it as she saw it). We all understand the enormous pressure Serena was under but she is well rewarded for playing in those conditions. A player is never, under any circumstances, entitled to be physically threatening to any official or other player. She is responsible for her own behaviour and consequently deserves what happened to her (and she knows it). It is certainly irrelevant that the call was made at that particular point in the match – the rules apply all the time. Go back through tennis over the last 10 or 20 years and have a look at the amazing calls that have been made in the final game of a match. Controversial calls made in the last part of a match can have an enormous effect on the outcome but that is how the game is set up. I feel for Serena because generally she is controlled and respectful to both players and officials and today she let herself and the sport she loves down, to say nothing of her fans. Also Kim Clijsters deserved more respect and to take the match fair and square.


Mike Says:

Kim is a true champion who also showed during the scene, to be a great person. She did not want to win that way. However, she deserves all the credit for being in the final. It is not her fault and she cannot control what the opponent does to herself, because Serena, and only Serena, did this to herself. The other actors in the scene were only playing their parts by the rules. Not doing so would have been unfair to the rest of the players, to the public and to tennis in general. Serena – or any other player – needs to understand that there are consequences to bad behavior and to attempts to brake the rules.
Sure, the competitiveness and will to win of a player like Serena makes her also very emotional, but if you do not control your emotional intelligence, it can act against you, as in this case (and others in the past).
Serena should publicly accept her total responsibility on this and apologize to several people: Kim, the public and the lines-woman included. She should also give full credit to Kim for her victory.


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

Kim Clijsters will probably win the title against the Great Dane. If she is good enough to win her second grandslam after an over two year absence
and only a couple of tournaments after her return then she is good enough to make some finals of coming grand slams and so is Serena.

If Serena and Kim meet in a grandslam final next year the event will be as big as a Federer, Nadal grandslame matchup. I would sure love to see Serena and Kim meet in one of next year’s grandslams, such a match might be the tennis match of the year.


Ed Carreyn Says:

For those who are saying Serena has been the best tennis player ever. I’m really laughing at it… Justine Henin is WAY BETTER than her. I can’t wait until next year when she comes back to play tennis and beat Serena once again. I would say the Williams just can’t agains the belgians, this time Kim defeated Venus and surely was going to defeat Serena (if it wasn’t for her arrogant and outrageous behavior).


jane Says:

Shame about all the controversy & threats…

But WOOT! to Kim – what a win for her! And what a breath of fresh air to have two new, surprising finalists at this slam!! Yay – look forward to watching it. Likely Kim will win. But I hope it’s good match.


fred Says:

good night all. enjoy the finals.


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

Time for me to call it a night also. Good night everyone, I enjoyed reading all your comments.


Giner Says:

It appears Del Potro and Nadal will be first up, followed by Djokovic and Federer. That’s a strange decision since the latter two haven’t played since Wednesday, but DP and Nadal will take it. Whoever wins that is going to hope to do it in 3 sets and for Fed/Djoker to go 5 long sets.


Esquilax Says:

Wow, can Women’s tennis get any weirder?


Skorocel Says:

Jay Goldman: „Why are we letting people with coke-bottle glasses destroy another’s dreams and hard work?“

So according to you, that linesperson should’ve turned a blind eye on that footfault, right? Fine, but then, purely by your logic, wouldn’t that destroy Clijsters’s dreams and hard work as well? ;-)


Skorocel Says:

Giner: „Matt Cronin picks both men’s semi finals tomorrow to go 5 sets. While I doubt that will happen, if it did it will be tough to recover for both players, especially the second finalist.
He even says Nadal needs to prolong the match and make it as physical as he can to put away Del Potro. That’s going to kill him if he makes the final. He’ll have less than 24 hours of recover. He said in his last interview that if a semi finalist gets another semi like the Verdasco one in Australia, it will be impossible to win the final.

PLEEEAAASE, not again! Let Matt Cronin say what he wants – it won’t matter a zilch when the players are on the court. And don’t take Rafa’s words seriously. He always plays down his chances.


Skorocel Says:

Ernie the Kim fan: „I predict the final won’t see the loser of the match losing match point by going over to a line person and saying that she could shove the f’n tennis ball down the line person’s f’n throat.“

ROTFLMAO :-)


Skorocel Says:

Serena on the court: “If I could, I would take this … ball and shove it down your … throat and kill you!”

Serena at her post match conference: „I mean, she was doing her job. I’m not going to knock her for not doing her job.”

LOL :-)


prue Says:

Darn, it’s so sad… does no one realize that if Kim won the US Open (and I think she will considering her amazing focus on each of her matches) she’ll be the second Belgian after Justine to defeat the Williams sisters en route to winning the title…

If Serena is so darn good, she can win the match even if she’s down 5 games and she knows she can’t hence her reaction… =(


ham Says:

The behavior of Serena is due to the undiagnosed personality disorder (DSM-IVr) she has. Narcissistic personality disorders such as hers, go unchecked all the time. The comment she makes about not playing her best, dismisses her opponent of the quality of play she demonstrated, which in my view was stellar. Serena couldn’t handle the volley, so she lost the first set. To lose the second set was unthinkable, in her personality disordered mind. This result is much more satisfying for Serena than to have actually lost the match. Though the performance of her opponent showed she was outgunned and outplayed. It is unfortunalte the foot fault call happened. Not because it ended the match, because Serena can excuse her loss on anything other than that she was outplayed. Serena treats people as objects, not people. When she is done with tennis she will be one sad study in deviant behaviors.


fadingis Says:

Jay Says:
We can discuss and complain about Serena and what she said and did-In the end it doesn’t matter because her technical skills in tennis are superb and not many can compete even as she winds down to the end of her career-I honestly think if Serena and Venus were not in the game it would be boring-Remember when they stepped onto the tennis seen everybody had to raise there level of play I mean everybody!!!

Posted September 12th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

don´t think so, the only thing she´s got is burtal power and the only thing she made the other players do is get fitter to suport her powerful stokes, and by the way why do you think she made so many unforced errors? well the thing is that she isn´t used to get her shots answered so she tried to give them more power unfortunatly as she ONLY USES POWER AND NOT TECNICHE TO BEAT RIVALS the ball went fireing out,and about the foot fault she was already going to lose with no doubt.


Dan Martin Says:

Mindy,

I am guilty of posting before I knew everything. I withdrew the Ferrer comparison once I knew bodily harm was in the mix. I saw portions of the match including a wrap up of McEnroe deriding the foot fault call, but did not see the whole thing. The only reason I raised Ferrer’s language was that using terms that rhyme with runt is generally considered exceptionally bad form. Once I learned about the bodily harm threat I withdrew it as threats are at another level.

As for me disliking the Spanish players, I will let my writing stand as my defense on that one. I think one of my Cincy columns gushed about Verdasco and how good he is. I recently said Spain is easily the top country in tennis. I talked about how great moments in the Nadal-Almagro match were and how well Robredo played in the 1st set versus Federer and how enjoyable that tennis was to watch. Me encanta los tenistas de Espana.


RSP Says:

” On a side note, if Clijsters does win it, I think the top 10 WTA players should all come out together to a press conference and say: “We suck.”

what a wonderful sight that would be! LOL


Nikola Says:

In my opinion, it could have been the fact that lines(wo)man call for foot fault was false. The irony of the whole situation is that because of Serena’s [mis]behavior, option(s) for revising a call by main umpire got in second plan, in other words – became irrelevant.

The only thing that umpire and tournament director should have done differently is that, no point deduction was to be used – Serena should have been disqualified! And clearly stated that way. I’m pretty sure that they should have pull out at least 5 “warnings” out of “situation” and satisfy tennis rulebook and in the same time avoid “match point” controversa. With such behaviour you dont lose a point – you get kicked out of the GAME. Period.

Also, I’m no fan suspensions etc. Simple – any player disqualified from a match on tournament loses point + price on that tournament. Simple, efficient, clean.

Please comment.


Gordo Says:

DC Says:
Serena is playing for the US Open. This was a huge point from Serena, who has come back from match point to win many matches. You don’t call a foot fault here unless it is very obvious. And, there was NO foot fault to call. Serena was upset. She has every right to be. I’ve never seen a major championship decided on something like this …

=========

Actually, a few years back in the Stanley Cup final the winning overtime goal was scored by the Dallas Stars when one of their players – Brett Hull – clearly had his skate in the goaltender’s crease – at the time a no-no which should have disallowed the goal – but professional hockey, like other sports – lets their officials have latitude with the rules as the games progress into latter stages. It was a disgrace and the cup victory is still tainted because of it. Dallas may have indeed won the Staley Cup, but there will always be an asterisk beside the win.

A foot fault is a foot fault, whether it is on the first point or whether it forces a match point.

A sad way to end the match that Kim played so well in.

=========

One thing that was clearly evident is the class of the New York fans in attendance – heartily cheering Kim even after she had defeated the last American in the draw. Between that and the way they have forgiven Djokovic for his unfortunate outburst last year (and for the way they have endured the rain) I would like nominate the New York tennis fans for a place in next week’s “Who’s got the funk.”

========

Hmmmn – everything old is new again.

In August 2003 Kim Clijisters lost in the final of the US Open – the third time she had reached the final of a Grand Slam and the third time she had lost, but she had enough points to be crowned #1 in the world. At the next Slam event, the 2004 Australian open, she again was runner-up, evoking cries of “How can she be number one when she has never even won a slam?”

Remind you of anyone today?

Odd how we forget these things.


TNFAN Says:

Serena should be banned for at least a year…she threatened a line judge and then lied about not remembering what she said. She is the worst kind player to represent the sport of tennis. Spoiled, rich, arrogant and a bully as well. If the ITF doesn’t step up and suspend her, they send a clear message that this kind of behavior is okay. If a fan threatened a player, there would be major fallout…so I ask, what’s the difference when a player threatens someone?


Eddie Says:

The sport of tennis should get rid quickly of such so called players. Serena could practice her language in the neighborhoods of Detroit or Oakland. If the tennis committees do not come up with a drastic decision regarding Serena’s behavior, they create a very dangerous precedent. She should be banned for a period! Not a short period!


MikeyB Says:

Williams had not dropped a set all tournament. She was on cruise control and seemingly unbeatable.

A T-Shirt she wore earlier this week said it all: “Can’t Spell Dynasty Without Nasty.” But that shirt cast its own spell.

Serena was being dominated by Kim and wanted a way out, I am surprised she didn’t fake a injury. Instead she deliberately creates a situation in which she gets DQ so Kim can’t technically say she beat Serena (Sad for Kim). Serena is not sorry and never will be. Serena list John McEnroe as one of her heros after the match. McEnroe is one of the all time unsportsmanlike athletes ever to play sports. Well Serena, welcome to the TOP OF THAT LIST!

To be honest McEnroe was more of a baby and never ever theaten anyone directly at this level (ex: that was Fusking crazy call are you fusking kidding me!)! Serena looked like a street thug trying to intimate and rob someone out there, but afterwards at the news conference she tried to come accross as having a sweet and gentle disposition………that was funny.


marlorie Says:

@Tazewell,

Thank you for your post, which is also as much drivel as you you say mine is.

At no point have I said that I’m not going to criticize….if you criticize others, you should also be able to take it. I pointed that out. Infact, if you at all read my post, that is exactly what I said I was doing. And I stand by my point, anyone taking a reply to a post as condescending does have an inferiority complex.

Thank you for helping me pass my time as well and for being so entertaining.


been there, done that Says:

A very bad day in the office for Serena. Quite a bad ending to the marquee match of the WTA US open…..thank goodness I couldn’t watch it live ‘coz am a Serena fan. I’ve always liked her fiery personality (which imo livens matches instead of robotic games), but this time round, she went too far and deserved the penalties.

Now, if only the umpires would enforce rules all across the board, beginning with time-wasting. If they did so, perhaps this episode would not have happened ‘coz the players would know that rules are being enforced, so would try hardeer to restrain themselves. no need for the umpires to wait for extreme situations…they should begin with the little regular ones.


grendel Says:

Serena says:”“Today was a tough day, I didn’t play my best. I felt I had more errors today then all my matches combined”.

Well, I’ve just watched the match again, this time on a nice wide flat screen, this “streaming” business is all very well….If Serena didn’t play her best, why might that have been? Just one of those things, the contrariness of life and so on – or did, in fact, Serena fall short to the better player on the day?

Consider a few points towards the end. Serena is serving at 15-40, 3 games to four. Lose the point, and Kim is serving for the match. We have a long rally, Serena is cagey, she is just getting the ball nicely into play, not going for too much – plainly she is counting on a Kim burst of impatience, and she gets it; Kim’s ball clips the top of the net. A couple of centimetres higher…It is, then, 30-40, and Serena switches tactics, goes onto the attack with smooth aplomb, Kim finds herself stranded awkwardly on the tramline, but somehow gets the ball back over the net. Serena has anticipated precisely and she comes speeding in with perfect timing to drive volley the ball into oblivion. Two contrasting, excellently played points. A couple of aces split by an error, then Serena drives majestically to the corner, but fast moving Kim catches the ball nicely and returns hard and low over the net. A very difficult low volley which Serena can’t handle. Then another ace, and soon it’s 4-4.

In this crucial game, both players were magnificent. Where Serena “failed”, it was because Kim was too good.

Kim had had 3 break points, and failed to make good. Generally, in a Williams match, this is the signal for capitulation. In fact, Kim played a commanding service game, overpowering Serena to win it to 15. 5-4 to Clijsters. There is no hint here that Serena’s game is off. She is just not used to this kind of competition.

In the last game, before all the brouhaha, Serena lost two points with tentative bh’s into the net.Is this, then, an example of what Serena meant? You can never prove something like this, but given how well Serena generally struck the ball, I think it reasonable to suppose she was tight. And she was tight because she was facing – on the night – a fearsome player who was giving her very little.

Serena said afterwards that she expected to make a couple of aces, and so on. She’s done this often before, of course, when in trouble. But the evidence suggests that a turnaround was not particularly likely. Kim was focused, playing at the top of her game, and unafraid.


christine Says:

Serena was getting herself
‘fired up’ so that she could murder Kim Clijsters.( made her ‘I’ve never been in a fight in my life’ comment particularly laughable) We’ve all seen Serena bullying and intimidating her opponants with her body language and snarling and grunting on court – the woman is an animal – and so uncool it’s pathetic. When she wins she is little MISS honey Bear, when she’s on court she’s a vampire, and when she looses she is a snivelling wreck, ‘my game was off’ – Serena your game was off because you were out played.
Lord save us.


Steve@Tennisnewz Says:

No way to tell if it was a foot fault from the CBS camera angle. Too bad they got rid of the Mac Cam. That would have shown clearly. A shot from the front would as well so I don’t know why they picked the only camera angle that wouldn’t be conclusive to show over and over again. It was definitely close and she’s been foot faulting all tournament so it wouldn’t be too surprising. Strange because it’s the easiest thing in tennis to avoid doing. She had her whole body over the line in one of her doubles matches. It’s rare that a line judge gets a foot fault call wrong.

If it was a foot fault it should be called. That’s why the line judge is there. Doesn’t matter if it’s an important point. I don’t agree that you should let some calls go because of the situation. If it’s an important situation, don’t make a stupid mistake. It’s never good if a call like that changes the outcome of a match, but that’s the player’s fault for making a mistake, not the line judges for calling it unless they are incorrect. Very unfortunate what happened afterwards. They probably would have let her get away with a bit of argument with the chair umpire but they really had no choice but to give her a point deduction with her reaction. A bad way to end what was a great match until that point. I think Clijsters was playing way too good for Serena and would have probably taken the match in straight sets even if the incident hadn’t have happened.


tennis wizard Says:

These comments and
rants do nothing good
For the sport. I believe
the conditions created
by those who believe
they understand what
these players endure
or go through as
professional athletes.
The comments created
by the fans might be
One of the reasons
Clisters/Henin left
the sport. It is the
crazy and obnoxious fans
that maybe the blame.


MikeyB Says:

Well by God, if it wasn’t a foot fault then Serena has the right to put that tennis ball in the line judges mouth and shut her up and has every right to act that way by God!


Andrew Miller Says:

There’s no racism going on in that tennis match.

The best women’s tennis player in the world was trailing all night and the pressure got to her. She showed bad judgment in taking her frustration out on the linesperson, rather than raising the issue with the umpire (that’s how it’s done, and Serena Williams, who has been on tour for more than 10 years, knows that).

So again – was it a bad foot fault call? Yes – not a good call. But there were options: Serena WIlliams could have brought the issue to the Umpire; she could have regrouped for 15-40 and tried to serve her way back into the game (she has done it before, I’m sure she could have come close to winning the 2nd set in the tiebreak if she made it that far); she good have taken a little extra time before serving at 15-40 – the point is SHE HAD OPTIONS.

But instead, she let the situation get to her – it is surprising for a veteran and the top player in women’s tennis to have such a meltdown at the most important point of the tournament for her, but that’s what happenned. As for the expletive laced tirade that she authored, well hey, at least we know what she was thinking at that moment while losing to her opponent:

“Holy $%^&. I might lose this match!”


KayCee Says:

This whole tournament the judges have been trying to get on the Williams sisters nerves by calling foot faults. A couple of matches ago during the tournament, Serena and the chair umpire got into a stare-off because of him calling a foot fault. They knew then they had the one thing to break her concentration, calling a foot fault. I think the line judge during the semifinals called a foot fault on Serena on purpose just to get on her nerves. It worked.


Joe Says:

Conclusion: Serena Williams is a disgrace for tennis and should be banned from the sport! I guess her “god” Jehovah made her do it!…I guess?


Cindy_Brady Says:

http://www.videovat.com/videos/13703/Andy-Roddick-getting-mad-at-umpire-Australian-Open-2008.aspx

Here is Andy Roddick…Just as Brat(ish) and spoiled as Serena. Won’t let it go. Rude as Hell to the Umpire. Talking down to him.

They seem to give Roddick more leeway than most players. His outburst at the French Open against Monfils was just as ugly. Tennis needs to be “uniform” in their rules to all players.

I truly believe this lines woman did not like Serena and was routing for Kim. She desperately wanted Serena to lose that point because the match was so close to being Kim’s. She took full advantage by making a “ridiculous call” that no body else would make at that juncture in a match.
The call was too “grey” to be made. The benefit of the doubt and common sense should prevail. Let these two woman decide it on the court. Not with some half pint, fat Asian woman inflicting her two cents in the matter.

Serena did go too far but the lines woman created the “atmosphere” to begin with. She should never officiate a profession tennis match again. Her judgment has been shown to be poor.


Chris N Says:

Thumbs Up to US Open Fans

I don’t care whether Ms Williams describes herself as intense or not. It does not justify her behaviour. Later in an interview, an opportunity for reflection, she showed clear lack of respect and class for not offering an apology to her fans, if not the umpire, for her vulgar conduct.

Hooray to the US open fans that booed the foul behaviour.


Shaky Says:

Serious question: Cindy are you drunk at all hours of the day, or are you actually this ignorant?


ShayHay Says:

Jay Goldman Says:

starts with a T and ends with an A !!
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Sure, let’s slice it up for a set or two.


ShayHay Says:

fred Says:

does anyone here think that the women’s final will showcase a higher level of skill than in the clijsters-williams match? does anyone think it will be more exciting (or even interesting)?
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No. I’ve already stated that I think it might last 45 minutes, pee breaks not included.


ShayHay Says:

Kimo Says:

If Serena isn’t penalized, by being suspended from play for six months to a year, tennis will be forever stained.
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See it’s stupid statements like this that irk the heck out of me.


Bob Says:

You just don’t threaten a person bodily harm, let alone someone involved with the match. If officials or players feel threatend, there goes the competitive integrity of your sport.

Serena Williams should be suspended at least through the Australian Open.


pt Says:

Serena’s behavior was atrocious…and her failure to apologize, or even acknowledge her inappropriate action’s later, was inexcusable.

As for the call…if you look at the replay on the video below (BBC coverage – late in the video), there is clearly a foot fault. Serena’s left foot can be seen clearly on the line. Furthermore, Serena later admitted that she believed she had faulted at the time, and that the line judge must have seen something.

Serena’s frustration was not over the fact that the call was missed. Her frustration was over the fact that the calls was made at all.

I’m not saying that I don’t sympathize with her frustration. At that critical a juncture in the match (correct or not) perhaps the call should not have been made – but everything from that point on was simply the poorest display of sportsmanship, and, for that matter, judgment.

In a couple of words…her behavior was not just outrageous, but pretty stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlWoVY0-WHc


Giner Says:

Could someone please link me to an online feed of the semi final? CBS appears to be showing NFL. One of the feeds is exclusive to americans, which rules me out. And one feed is by eurosport with commentary that I don’t understand.

Anyone?


Cindy_Brady Says:

Shaky,

Not going to get into a pissing match with you today.

What you call ignorant. I call insightful.

You post vanilla. I post with color and truth.

The only beverage I drink is cool lemonade.

Have a nice day. I will enjoy watching the men’s semifinals.


Colin Says:

It’s insane to say a judge shouldn’t foot-fault someone at that stage in a match. Try considering the reaction times involved (ignoring the obvious moral issue). Serena looked down, thought for a second or two, THEN marched across and started on the judge. The judge sees, or believes she sees a fault. Is she supposed, in a tiny fraction of a second, to weigh all the pros and cons, the importance of the moment in the match, and stuff, before she calls or does not call? It is always understood that judges must react instantly, as lat calls are taken to mean uncertainty.


fannie Says:

Look at the replays…it was a footfault. And the rules apply to everyone, all the time. Serena is not immune.
If you are a line judge and a player footfaults, you don’t stop and think “Oh dear, what is the score? Should I call it or should I pretend I didn’t see it?” As a former line judge the call is a ‘reflex’ and not a thought process. As for other player’s misbehaving, they may have berated the linesman but I can’t remember anyone threatening the linesman with physical harm, physically stomping up to them with closed fist and racquet pointing at their head. And why? For doing her job. If any of the men had gone as far as Serena, I guarantee they would have been penalized.


Colin Says:

Sorry, that should be “late” calls. I made it sound like an order for coffee!


Shaky Says:

Wow cindy you’ve really impressed me here, I agree there certainly is “color” in your remarks.

Thanks for pointing out not only that Serena is a dangerous black person, but that who we should really make fun of is a non-athlete lineswoman because she’s a fat asian woman — sure she did her job all the way through the match, but is it really so hard to find a nice slender white woman to make the important calls?

And as for Roddick, going after the ump (who has a mic, talks back to you, argues with you, and can dock you points/games/the match) is night and day from cussing out a defenseless linesman. But then again Serena’s lineswoman wasn’t white, so I guess she had it coming.

Cindy: you’re an idiot. But more importantly you’re an awful person. Keep making those great insights.


Shaky Says:

Cindy: “The Ghetto/hood F-bomb language was colorful. Serena’s black side sure surfaced. She did an injustice to African American’s everywhere.”

Can’t you at least pretend this wasn’t you or something? This breaks new ground even for someone as terrible as you.

Grats on making it to Rick territory. I can’t make any promises, but it’s possible that you might be the dumbest person to ever post here.


Giner Says:

This is looking to be a slugfest. Very physical and we’re only 3 games in. Might be a long match.

Del Potro at this stage is looking the more likely winner.


Veno Says:

Early days Giner, but Delpo looks ready to take it to Nadal.

I like it that Rafa is playing a more attacking game, moving Juan Martin around and hoping to wear him down. Imo will be key for Nadal to win the first set. Delpo can hit through Nadal if he leaves anything short


Veno Says:

JMDP breaks


Kimo Says:

Del Potro is doing what we expected him to do. He just broke Rafa’s serve.

I’ll take Del Potro in 3, maybe 4 if Nadal fights like he really believes he can beat him.


Veno Says:

Giner, Cindy? You know where all the regulars are?


Kimo Says:

ShayHay:

“See it’s stupid statements like this that irk the heck out of me.”

I didn’t mean tennis as a sport you idiot, I meant tennis as an institution.

Even the NFL suspends players for even milder language, so why don’t you educate yourself and get back to me?


Veno Says:

Hey Kimo :)


Veno Says:

Could be a 3-setter Kimo, Delpo’s mentally very strong. Especially at clutch moments. Only issue could be his fitness if taken to 5 sets. It was his downfall to Fed in Paris, but clay is more gruelling and he’s rested and more experienced now.


Giner Says:

Veno Says:

“Giner, Cindy? You know where all the regulars are?”

Probably watching it on TV. I don’t have TV coverage so I have to watch it in front of my computer, thus I can be here.

Delpo plays aggressive and his shots are very powerful, but just doesn’t seem to miss much.


Kimo Says:

Hey Veno, Why don’t we move to Sean’s new thread coz this one is way too long?


Veno Says:

Isn’t it amazing that from the small Argentinian village of Tandil there are 4 pros playing in the ATP. Astonishing!


Veno Says:

Agree Kimo, see you there


Cindy_Brady Says:

Del Potro’s weight of shot is penetrating the court more than Nadal’s. His flatter shots are definitely making an impact.

Nadal is being overpowered by a bigger stronger man at this point.

Nadal’s only chance is to wear Del Potro down. A tall order. No pun intended.


Paul Says:

I guess you can’t take the ghetto out of Serena, no matter what anyone says. Tennis is a sport where you always respect everyone, including lines people. Go back to Compton.


Gordo Says:

Cindy – I thought you were going to be at the match – are you sending this via Blackberry?


Cindy_Brady Says:

Gordo,

I have tickets for tomorrows final. Hope the weather God’s don’t interfere. Had a choice of attending today or tomorrow.

Men’s final it is. But either direction is all win.


Gordo Says:

Cindy – enjoy the match, you lucky gal.

I’m not trying to be argumentative here, but I do think there is a difference between acting a fool and beaking off at a linesperson or an umpire, as Roddick does in your clip and as he has done before – and as Johnny Mac did countless times, and acying a fool and verbally threatening harm to an official and menacingly waving a racquet, as Serena did.

It was pretty classless, and she should be at the very least fined, imo.

But back to your final tomorrow – yeah, you have got it made, no matter who wins these 2 semis today. Enjoy the day.


Giner Says:

DP is controlling every point. Nothing Nadal does is working for him, he’s been made to play outside of himself and can’t because he’s out of his comfort zone.

I don’t see him coming back from this.

Every time DP has break points, he ends up converting, but whenever Nadal has them, he can’t.

DP is just really really good. It baffles me that he can’t beat Andy Murray.


Giner Says:

Nadal’s only chance now is to hope Del Potro goes away and blows up. He’s run out of answers here. Nothing he does is working. He’s being overpowered by a bigger and stronger man, and the guy doesn’t show any signs of letting up.

He can’t be disappointed with a semi final showing though, and he does return to #2.


Gordo Says:

Hard to believe Fed beat Del Potro this year at the Australian Open 6-3, 6-0, 6-0


PeteSamprasII Says:

Serena is a disgrace to womens tennis and to Americans.

Sure, you get bad calls and sometimes give a lines person a word or 2 but not threatening to shove a ball down their f*****n throat! and then threaten to kill them! (even though it was in the heat of the moment and she never meant it)and then deny you ever said it…with the crowd there as witneseses. She should be banned for 1 year. and she has always been a sore loser.


Giner Says:

What a demolition job by DP. Incredible. 2, 2, and 2, and every set went the exact same way. He made Rafa look like a junior. He’s also a nice guy in his on court interviews too. Best of luck to him, I hope he wins.

He’s got a good shot for the final, expending little energy and having a few hours more rest than his opponent.

He’s not scored a career win against either Fed or Djokovic, but he has a very good chance to defeat Djokovic now. If it’s Federer, I still don’t think he has a chance because Fed eats up DP’s kind of player.

I’m revising my expectations of his chances now based on this performance.

DP vs Djokovic: DP 75%
DP vs Federer: Fed 65%


Giner Says:

Gordo Says:

“Hard to believe Fed beat Del Potro this year at the Australian Open 6-3, 6-0, 6-0″

He’s improved a lot since then, and he’s improved since he was beaten by Nadal, Djokovic and Murray. I really like this guy now. I think I’ve become a fan.

But I’m also a fan of Fed and Djok, so I won’t be rooting for any particular player in the final.

Speaking of Djokovic though. Does anyone find it uncanny that Nadal 09 performance mirror’s Djokovic’s 08? Aus Open, Indian Wells, then Rome. Djok doesn’t win another title after Rome in a long time. Nadal hasn’t won a title since Rome either, and it seemed like ages ago. Djok went on to win the YEC though, so we’ll see..

Got another hour and a half to wait now.


MMT Says:

Coming a little late to the original conversation, but I have to point out that the title of this post has an error – Serena Williams was not defaulted. She received a point penalty on match point and hence lost the match.


Jwimbley Says:

Tennis update seen at “the tennischannel.com” on Slam Tracker, shows Nadal lost to Del Potro 6-2,6-2,6-2

NOW, is there any daoubt about this entire USPOEN predetermued tht ALL Seeds FALL this year? I cannot imagine ALL top seeded players(FAVORED to WINl)before reaching FINALs. I strongly suspect and sincerely believe false “foot fault” call(S) on Serena was part of plan to insure she as other fallen seeds,would indeed fall. by Hook or Crook. I still think Gambling insustry IS heavily involved. Think”"Hype up a player,then player FAILS,think of HUGE $$ bets on long shot winners?


gizmo Says:

If I were hosting the next event that Serena Williams is scheduled to play in, I would let her know that she is not welcome. Her nasty, abusive attitude is shameful. I’ll be glad if she never plays another match.

And Bravo to the lineswoman who made the foot fault call– whether she made the right call or not, the rules of the game don’t change at a critical point late in the second set. They have to be enforced consistently to have any meaning.


Ashino W. Sushanti Says:

LOS ANGELES TIMES

Her tirade toward U.S. Open to lineswoman goes beyond those of McEnroe and Nastase in earlier days, especially as she shows no remorse. She should be heavily fined and suspended.
By Bill Dwyre

September 13, 2009

Let’s get right to the point. Serena Williams should be fined heavily and suspended for a while from the pro tennis tour.

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FOR THE RECORD: A column in Sunday’s Sports section about Serena Williams’ loss in the U.S. Open semifinals said Williams’ outburst at a lineswoman began when she was called for a foot fault on her first serve at 15-40. Actually, Williams was called for a foot fault on her second serve at 15-30.
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Let’s see what kind of guts the normally soft-on-discipline sport of tennis has this time. If she were an Oregon football player, she’d be out for the season.

If you saw it on television, you know what happened, you know that she made a fool out of herself Saturday night in an ugly incident at the U.S. Open. If you didn’t see it, we’ll confirm it:

Serena Williams made a fool out of herself Saturday night in an ugly incident at the U.S. Open.

The quick details are:

* She was given a point penalty on match point, which meant she lost her semifinal to Kim Clijsters, 6-4, 7-5.

* She was given the point penalty because, after a linesperson called a foot fault on her first serve at 15-40, she went over to the linesperson, shook her fist at her, and from just several feet away, said, according to several witnesses courtside, “You don’t know me. You better be right. I could shove this ball down your throat.” Interspersed with this were several F-bombs.

* The lineswoman was called to the chair umpire to report what had been said. The chair umpire had given Williams a warning/code violation at the end of the first set, when Williams smashed her racket to the court and broke it. That is a routine call for chair umpires. A second violation called from the chair is loss of a point, a third loss of the match. Williams’ second violation was on match point.

* The point violation was assessed after a conference around the umpire’s chair that included chair umpire Louise Engzell, tournament referee Brian Earley, the unidentified lineswoman and Williams. During that confab, Williams was overheard on TV microphones as denying she had threatened to kill the lineswoman.

Quickly, Williams was tossing her racket on her bag and walking to the back of the court, where a confused Clijsters spread her palms open as if to say, “What’s going on?” and then accepted Williams’ handshake and short hug.

Since the days of John McEnroe and maybe Ilie Nastase, there hasn’t been much of this in tennis. This might have gone well beyond those days in severity.

It was on network television, in one of the most-anticipated matches of the entire tournament. Millions watched.

It went well beyond the McEnroe tirade stage into body language and direct verbiage that was threatening and ugly.

It was an embarrassment to a sport that has made good strides recently in expanding its niche. The U.S Tennis Assn. loves to talk about its “grass-roots” programs, geared to getting rackets into young players’ hands. Now those young hands have a role model for racket-smashing and bad language.

As bad as this incident was, leaving a three-quarters-filled Arthur Ashe Stadium in near stunned silence, worse was Williams’ handling of the aftermath in a news conference. There, she had a chance to apologize, or maybe even fake some remorse. She did neither.

Instead, we got the usual, phony, sing-songy deflections and silly answers — all done with a big smile, as if she had just won, 6-0, 6-0.

Examples:

Question: What did you say?

Answer: What did I say? You didn’t hear? Oh.

Q. Do you think the lineswoman had any reason to feel threatened. Apparently she says she felt threatened?

A. She says she felt threatened. She said this to you?

Q. I’m just repeating what has been said that she told the chair umpire.

A. Well, I’ve never been in a fight in my whole life, so I don’t know why she would be threatened.

Q. Do you regret losing your temper both after the first set and after the foot fault?

A. I haven’t really thought about it to have any regrets. I try to — I’ve done — you know, I try to not live my life saying, I wish, I wish. But, you know, I was out there and fought and I tried and I did my best.

Q. You’ve always prided yourself on being an extremely forthright player, and with us here in the press room. Could you tell us what you said on the court, please?

A. I don’t think that’s necessary for me to speak about that. I’ve let it go, and I’m trying to better — to, you know, to get — to move on.

Q. Do you think the lineswoman deserves an apology?

A. An apology for?

Q. From you.

A. From me?

Q. Would you be interested to see if you actually foot faulted?

A. I’m pretty sure I did. If she called a foot fault, she must have seen a foot fault. I mean, she was doing her job. I’m not going to knock her for not doing her job.

The public that watched this ugly farce will be watching closely now. It will see if tennis pretends that this somehow wasn’t as outrageous as it clearly was, and that it didn’t wipe out years of image-building in the sport.

If it goes without being addressed, then tennis is just telling us it cares only about our ticket money and us in front of the television set, but not our respect, loyalty or admiration.

Best guess? Tennis will pretend this was all a Las Vegas card game and let it ride.

bill.dwyre@latimes.com.


Von Says:

Just dropped by to comment on the topic of this thread and to post the following link and quote, plus to add my two bits worth on the whole unfortunate incident:

http://www.yahoo.com/s/1130015

Per the reporter: “The initial foot fault that began the fireworks was a terrible call. It was unconscionable. It cannot be made at the end of any match, let alone in the semifinals of the U.S. Open. This isn’t because a foot fault is a ridiculous call at that juncture (even though it is). It’s because it wasn’t a foot fault. The replays show that Serena’s foot was behind the line when she served. You could make the argument that it was close but not close enough to make the call.”

I saw this match. CBS attempted to show a slow-mo of the foot fault a few times, and according to what was shown, Johnnie Mac stated Serena’s toe was not on the line, hence, I suppose she shouldn’t have been given a foot fault.

I don’t know if the lines person is the same one that has been foot-faulting Serena at the USO over the past week in most of her matches, and if it is the same one, I’d say, she either has it out for Serena and that call was perhaps the last straw that broke the camel’s back in Serena’s mind. Also, it could be viewed by serena a a kind of deja vu scenario, with respect to Serena’s match vs. Capriati, where she was robbed, and that kind of mental revision and flash back, at times, could blow a person’s mind.

I’m not saying that Serena’s outburst is justified and there’s no excuse for that type of behaviour, but sometimes, we need to look deeper than the superficial before passing judgmen.

I’m not surprised that racism has reared its ugly head once again here, why not? It’s the prevailing emotion that drives some to their destruction. Also, racism and the hate for Americans in general, has proven once again how bigoted some are and would jump at the minutest opportunity to vent/spew their thinking, which IMO is more of a disease. And, yes, it’s a disease festering and growing in some people’s minds, similar to hate and deadly as cancer, whereby it eats away at the very core of those who entertain, live and thrive on it.

Further, why is it that Serena’s background is being discussed here? I’d hazard a guess and say about 60 percent of the players on both the WTA and ATP tours have come from under-privileged backgrounds, therefore, why is it that the Williams sisters’ family roots are featured here with respect to her outburst? John McEnroe and Jimmy Connors came from respectable upper middle class family backgrounds, hence, what’s the excuse for their on-court behaviour? Oh, let me guess, they’re white and Serena is black, isn’t it? OY VEY. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive!!

I’d also like to ask why is it that Serena was given a violation for breaking her racquet? During this year we’ve seen so many break their racquets without as much as a side-glance and/or a a warning/penalty from the umps, and some thought it funny. Therefore, why is that Serena was dealt with so harshly by the ump? I remember Donald Young being dealt with harshly on a different occurrence. I suppose different strokes for different folks, and maybe Serena could pull out the ‘race’ card as so many are doing here, with respect to her behaviour, which is tantamount to saying that only black people can behave in a low-class manner, and the white people are above that. And, in case anyone is wondering, I’m not Black, so please don’t even go there.

I believe that the ITF needs to do a revision of their rules and/or deal more harshly with the umpires, who IMO, are severely deficient in enforcing the rules and are to be blamed for the rules being abused and/or broken. It’s come to the point in tennis that nothing is across the board with respect to the rules and is subjective on a match by match and umpire to umpire basis and/or scenario, which is insane.

I’d like to see a uniform code of rules and regulations established, or the one that’s in place, be enforced, followed to the ‘letter’ in a more fair and uniform manner by the umpires. I’d also like to see umpires being dealt with more severely by the WTA/ATP when they screw up with their calls and judgment clearly showing favoritism towards some players. Unless that’s done by the powers that be, umpires are going to continue to be lackadaisical and selectively choose to ignore and enforce the rules as it suits their fancy, which at times can have deleterious effects on the outcome of some matches.

The following concerns a probe into the match:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slug=ap-usopen-swilliams&prov=ap&type=lgns
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Shaky and Shayhay: Mazel Tov, and thank you for being so objective, perceptive and fair-minded in calling out the racist on her remarks. Hope you noticed the vacillation? Yesterday it was Serena who was stomped on, God forbid, for doing the unthinkable, being born into a Black American family and the ‘Hood’, and today it’s the ‘fat’ Oriental woman who’s being stomped on.

It’s sad that kind of stuff will continue and flourish and be rewarded here due to some who like to cozy up to that individual, because everyone loves to have a friend and be popular, or appear noble, and that individual thrives on such attention. Don’t be too surprised if her knight in shining armour rises to her defense once again, and you both turn out to be the bad guys. OY VEY. My respect for both of you has gone up some notches, and again, my thanks for being so forthright and not being fearful to speak up.
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Funches: Mazel tov to you too! Love your Arthur Ashe comeback. LOL and LOL again. I’d like to add that dear Arthur, even though a very kind soul, would probably have taken the ball and shoved it down the racist’s throat, and if I were there I’d love to give him an assist. Way to go funches, and you have my respect also. That kind of poster should be ignored and I’m baffled how many encourage that kind of behaviour by engaging her in discussions — it makes me nauseous to see there are so many who can’t see the difference and what’s happeneing before their very eyes, instead some champion her cause and reinforce her behaviour. OY. Anyway, they can have her.


grendel Says:

Yes, I don’t have lap top, so it’s tv then computer, unless streaming.
“If it’s Federer, I still don’t think he has a chance because Fed eats up DP’s kind of player.” (Giner). Delpo damn near gave the Fed his marching orders in Paris. Soderling competed on at least equal terms (“very close” – Federer) in 3rd and 4th sets. Tsonga recently, etc.

Times have changed. The young, hard flat hitters are no longer meat and drink to Federer. If he beats Djoko, he’s gonna do well to handle Delpo. He risks been blown off the court cf Safin/Sampras. Safin given no chance…..


Polo Says:

Serena’s behavior was unconscionable…in any color.


thetennisguy Says:

The only thing I’m surprised about is that the race card hasn’t been played yet. I do think from watching the TV coverage that both Sister were targeted for foot faults. I don’t remember anyone besides Rusedski perhaps being called for so many foot faults. And on match point, give me a break. Another think I’m surprised about is that the lineswoman doesn’t have a Wilson USOPEN ball in her throat right now. What if her foot was 1 mm on the line? Thanks a lot USTA for making this match a complete disaster. Tournament referee … over-rule and let them play on.


Pete Says:

It’s about time that Serena gets what’s been coming. The press & TV pump so much sunshine up here wazzu, you’d think the sun rose & set over her. Serena’a attitude on the court is as bad as her sister Venus. To bad about the foot fault since I would have LOVED to watch Clister BEAT her. But we should NOT be second guessing the judges.


Colin Says:

Mentions of “the ghetto” and “the hood” are rather amusing in relation to Serena, a very rich woman who probably spends more time shopping than she does in any place resembling her roots.
By the way, we have a British winner, Heather Watson, who won the Junior Girls title. Very unusually for a British girl player, she’s mixed race, but not from any sort of ghetto. She’s from Guernsey in the Channel Islands.
It’s a pity we can’t tap into our black sporting talent for tennis, but apart from athletics, all the young boys want to be footballers.


tennis wizard Says:

What current female player would you
want on your doubles team?


Von Says:

colin:

“Mentions of “the ghetto” and “the hood” are rather amusing in relation to Serena, a very rich woman who probably spends more time shopping than she does in any place resembling her roots.”

That’s just leverage used by some when they can’t find the words or are unble to copy and paste information pertaining to a discussion — the race thikng always works, even though they are not smart enough to see they’re showing their true bigotry.

Meanwhile, on the Home Shopping Network last eveniing during the fiasco at the USO, Serena in all her ‘black splendour and hood background’ was being feautured in fashon ads. And, where was the racist being featured? I suppose busy trying to get a last minute deal on the scalping of her ‘imaginary’ USO final tickets. LOL.


Steve Says:

Bringing up race when it comes to the Williams sisters is always a touchy issue. Touchy, because the Williams invariably play the race card FIRST. In this case, with a 50-ish Asian lineswoman, Serena didn’t have the race card to play during her news conference, and it showed.

Let’s assume that it was a bad call, even if she stepped on the line. Bad calls happen in every sport, and in any sport an athlete berates an official that way, they deserve to get reprimanded. If Albert Pujols sticks his bat in the face of the home plate umpire after striking out, you don’t think he gets thrown out?

Let’s face it, the reason why Melanie Oudin was such a huge hit this tournament was because American tennis on the woman’s side has been completely devoid of likable players. Both Venus and Serena offer little if any class after a loss, unless they play each other. The sooner both of them go away, the better. I hope they get booed big time when they play doubles.


Von Says:

Colin: Sorry I spelt your name with a lower case/common ‘c’.

I’m very surprised that GBR has been unsuccessful in producing more Black athletes, considering there’s a mix of West Indian and Africans living there. The Black athletes in the USA have put this country in the thick of Track and Field.


Mary Says:

Von: If Serena was a popular ATP player, all heck would be breaking lose at professional tennis.
The same people who are rabidly criticizing Serena ignore when certain players take bogus injury timeouts, take forever to serve, etc.
While I don’t take issue with Serena being called out and being defaulted, it’s not done in a uniform manner across the board.
At least Serena wasn’t cheating, unlike the players who, on a reg basis, cheat with gamesmanship nonsense.


Von Says:

Mary: Glad to see another fair voice here, and one that’s not a ‘racist’.

As I said, I don’t for one bit condone Serena’s behaviour — it was just flat out WRONG, but sometimes there are extenuating circumstances as I mentioned in my prior post. However, if we are going to judge, let’s be fair and do it across the board and across continents also. Is Serena’s behaviour any worse than Nastase’s? Hell no, not by a mile, but she’s BLACK and most of all an AMERICAN, and that’s the problem. If you will notice, many here are concentrated on her blackness and then the Americans are being bashed also and thrown in for good measure, why not add more insult to injury and go for the jugular? Not to mention Roddick’s YouTube used As Exhibit ‘A’, by the racist as leverage. OY.

I would like to see something done by the powers that be post haste in implementing the rules fairly not selectively.


Seraphim Says:

Cindy_Brady @ 11:52
WTF was that?

Von @ 5:22pm
Great post. Thank You.

Seraphim.


thetennisguy Says:

Can you image what difference the “foot fault” call made to the sports book? Think about that for a minute and tell me it wasn’t a setup. Especially at such a critical point in the match. Remember the basketball scandal? I think the USTA needs to seriously look into this issue. But will they? No. Because it would make them “look bad”. So we should call for an independent investigation of that line judge and the USTA.


TOMMY H Says:

Oh PUHLEEEZE !!!

Drop the RACE CARD playing!!!

Of course John McEnroe and Nastase had tantrums and screamed at line judges, but they never threatened their lives. Just in case anyone missed it, this is part of what Serena said, “I swear to God, I’m f*****g takin this ball and shoving it down your f*****g throat. You hear me? I swear to God. You will be dead. You will be f*****g dead. I swear.”

If you haven’t seen it, there’s video/audio on the web where you can clearly hear it. She should lose all of her sponsors, should be fined heavily, and should be banned from competition for awhile.


TOMMY H Says:

And another thing – there was no definitative camera angle that shows whether it was a foot fault or not. Therefore you either think the fix is in – IF YOU ARE A FOOL – or else accept the fact that the foot fault rule is there for a reason, just as the height of the net rule is there. Sheesh!

One of the reasons I like tennis as opposed to some sports – HOCKEY, BASKETBALL – is that the rules are the same from the first point on. Period.

And Federer received a code violation when he broke his racquet in Miami during his match with Djokovic. In fact the only time you don’t receive one is if you break it at the end of the game because it doesn’t matter.


Von Says:

Seraphim @5:556 pm, you’re welcome!

I’d like to dissect that 11:52 pm post last night.

“The Ghetto/hood F-bomb language was colorful. Serena’s black side sure surfaced. She did an injustice to African American’s everywhere.” Cindy Brady.

Agree the comment was colorful, but how come it’s only pertinent to the ghetto/hood people? Don’t white and other people from rich backgrounds use the ‘F’ word? Then if we agree that the super rich white use the ‘F’ bomb, which is universal/global nowadays, how is Serena’s ‘black side’ pertinent here? Then brady is saying only ‘black’ people use the ‘F’ word? OUCH. And, how or why is Serena doing an “injustice to African American’s {sic} everywhere” What injustice has Serena done to the African Americans everywhere? Did she engage in genocide towards the African Americans? And, where is ‘everywhere’?

LOL, talk about an ignoramus butchering the English language and just spouting sh*t for the sake of talking. What’s even worse, is the fact that she talks out of ALL sides of her split mouth, and changes direction similar to that of the wind. sheesh. Last night Serena was being pounded and today the lines person was pounded, and in both instances racial slurs were used — black for Serena and oriental for the lines person. OY. What’s wrong with this picture?

I’m still reeling that another poster dared to compare her writing and tennis knowledge to mine, by saying we both can string sentences and possess tennis knowledge. OUCH, what a slap in my face. Anyway, to each his own. Watch out for some more ways the ignoramus will be tripping up herself. LOL.


J08vas Says:

What a day wish I saw it! Serena is my hero the rest of this Month. My question is why that umpire didnt over rule! and why that Line judge didnt clean her glasses! what she lookin at???? An my hero Serena didnt stand for that Bull! she cussed that ass out! oh yeah! U go Girl! Line judge looked like eggheads sister! noddin like she did! After gittin cussed out for not knowin her JOB! she didnt know where to look! Serena so cute “u didnt heard what I said, OH” mmm hmmm sure did! =) In sports u hav 2 expect that! in all sports no one want to loose! everyone gets ANGRY! dont like it dont play and dont watch!
Serena u read this. Give ‘em H*** shoot u only live once! live it! No regrets. Big Fan!! oh yeah!


Jim Says:

The following was sent to the Tennis Magazine, USTA, Nike and Wilson. I am the director of tennis and thus run USTA tournaments. If you do not suspend Serena Williams for her outrageous behavior at the 2009 US Open I will have no respect for your rules or you as a governing body of tennis. The rules demand that she be suspended and you are very aware it. If a junior in one of my tournaments threatened an official in that manner he/she would claerly be suspended maybe indefinitely. You need to show that the game is bigger than any so called “star” in that game and for Serena to not offer an apology is a disgrace to the game, the official’s and the fans who support her. I will no longer support Nike, Wilson or any other compaany that Serena Williams is sponsored by. Even if she comes out and apologizes now, we will know it is only to save her reputation and not be a true apology.


Jim Says:

Here is a good joke. Serena Williams is going to be fined $10,000 for her actions at the 2009 US Open and $500 for racket abuse. hahahahahahahaha. Is that not a good one.


ShayHay Says:

gizmo Says:
If I were hosting the next event that Serena Williams is scheduled to play in, I would let her know that she is not welcome. Her nasty, abusive attitude is shameful. I’ll be glad if she never plays another match.

And Bravo to the lineswoman who made the foot fault call– whether she made the right call or not, the rules of the game don’t change at a critical point late in the second set. They have to be enforced consistently to have any meaning.
—————-

Oh shut up already. She’s been fined and that’s all that needed to be done. My goodness.


ShayHay Says:

Mary Says:
Von: If Serena was a popular ATP player, all heck would be breaking lose at professional tennis.
The same people who are rabidly criticizing Serena ignore when certain players take bogus injury timeouts, take forever to serve, etc.
While I don’t take issue with Serena being called out and being defaulted, it’s not done in a uniform manner across the board.
At least Serena wasn’t cheating, unlike the players who, on a reg basis, cheat with gamesmanship nonsense.

—————-

Thank you!!


ShayHay Says:

Steve Says:
Bringing up race when it comes to the Williams sisters is always a touchy issue. Touchy, because the Williams invariably play the race card FIRST. In this case, with a 50-ish Asian lineswoman, Serena didn’t have the race card to play during her news conference, and it showed.

Let’s assume that it was a bad call, even if she stepped on the line. Bad calls happen in every sport, and in any sport an athlete berates an official that way, they deserve to get reprimanded. If Albert Pujols sticks his bat in the face of the home plate umpire after striking out, you don’t think he gets thrown out?

Let’s face it, the reason why Melanie Oudin was such a huge hit this tournament was because American tennis on the woman’s side has been completely devoid of likable players. Both Venus and Serena offer little if any class after a loss, unless they play each other. The sooner both of them go away, the better. I hope they get booed big time when they play doubles.

——————————–

Oh please…Venus and Serena are excellent ambassadors for the sport of tennis and have inspired many girls from all backgrounds to pick up a racquet. The same cannot be said for many other players on tour. They have done more for the sport than any female from the last generation. Heck they breathed new life into it because we all know what a bore it was during the lean ’90s. Even though I’m a huge Seles fan :-) Just because you don’t like them personally, well that’s your problem, but to try and diminish what they have done for the WTA and USTA is wrong and slightly delusional.


Mary Says:

“They have to be enforced consistently to have any meaning.”

That’s the problem, nothing is called with consistency. The linespeople are not the root of the problem. The root of the problem are the tennis officals allowing players to cheat on a regular basis.

Again, if this was a top male player, the footfault call would not have been made. If a top male player had a similar meltdown, the commentators and internet posters would be writing page after page of excuses for the male player’s behavior.


Von Says:

Mary: “Again, if this was a top male player, the footfault call would not have been made. If a top male player had a similar meltdown, the commentators and internet posters would be writing page after page of excuses for the male player’s behavior.”

Let’s not forget the Code Violation for the racquet abuse also, why did that hppen? How many male players have not broken racquets this year alone, and how many got warned or were given a code violation? I love Safin, but he’s a repeat offender and/or somewhat of a a recidivist in racquet breaking; not to mention Gonzo, LOL. That said, where’s the justice? I don’t see any, do you? I think the racquet abuse violation is the underlying anger and the foot fault was the last straw for Serena. I don’t know how anyone could rationalize away the racquet thing as being fair considering what we see from the male players.

I also feel the umpire was a bit harsh on the racquet abuse and handled the lines person problem poorly. This was a GS and the problem should have been taken care of at the umpire level without the intervention of the Tourney Director. Why didn’t the umpire speak to Serena first instead of calling the tourney director? Instead, the umpire sat there in her chair like a bump on a log and was only pro-active by calling out the tourney director. Therein lies the problem, IMO.


Von Says:

In all honesty, I’d like to see Venus and Serena take off 6 months from the tour, beginning January 2010, and bypass the AO, FO and Wimby, and let’s see what happens to the tour during that period. I’d bet one thing, the WTA officials would be getting down on their hands and knees begging the Williams sisters to return to the tour ASAP.

I doubt Nike would be interested in following the suggestions of some here by dropping their endorsement of Serena. In essence, Serena sells, and that you can take to the bank.


Mary Says:

Serena fined $10,500 for semi-final outburst

The maximum permissible on site fine of $10,000 has been levied for unsportsmanlike conduct against Serena Williams for her on court behavior during the women’s semi-final,” the tournament referee said in a statement Sunday.

“Ms Williams also will be fined $500 for racket abuse which took place at the end of the first set of the same match.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/idUSTRE58C21G20090914

I hope she fights it.


Polo Says:

Von Says:
In all honesty, I’d like to see Venus and Serena take off 6 months from the tour, beginning January 2010, and bypass the AO, FO and Wimby, and let’s see what happens to the tour during that period. I’d bet one thing, the WTA officials would be getting down on their hands and knees begging the Williams sisters to return to the tour ASAP.

Von, your logic and sense of values rely defy me. Such behavior cannot be condoned. You are just like to the tennis officials who grovel at a star’s feet.


Mary Says:

Polo: do you complain during the endless fake injury timeouts, when players go over the 30-sec mark for serving? It’s cheating.

Serena defaulted the match she was punished, but she didn’t cheat. Why does she get extra punishment when a cheater will get none Why is cheating condoned?


Von Says:

Polo: “Von, your logic and sense of values rely defy me. Such behavior cannot be condoned. You are just like to the tennis officials who grovel at a star’s feet.”

Let’s not get into a nasty argument here. I said it clearlyin one of my above posts, that I don’t condone serena’s behaviour, hence why is my lolgic defying you?

Read my comments again before lecturing me. FYI, my comment on the sisters taking off from the tour pertains to some comments made where some posters mentioned that Serena should be banned from playing on the tour, period. And, it was to those statements I replied that the sisters should take off from the tour, and if they did, we’d see how much the tour needed them.

BTW, how is my statment likened to that of the tennis officials groveling at as star’s feet? I mean where’s the connection to what I said is in any way, form, or fashion groveling to a star’s feet? OY. let’s get real here. I don’t grovel to any human being.


Jim Says:

Unbelievable…do the rules mean nothing to you. Serena told the line judge she was “going to take the f**king ball and cram it down her f**king throat”. How can anyone defend this. Stop thinking your emotions and engage your brains and stop defending her actions because of what someone else has done in the past and what they got away with. Each situation is its own. I WAS a fan Serena.


Tennisfan Says:

Do you want to continue on the discussion as to why Serena deserves to be no 1??? …. apparently alot of people on the site (US citizens???) think she is deserving of representing no. 1 woman player.. even though she never earned the points on tour.

I wonder how many tour points she’ll have by next year after she sits out for a year after the discipline committee plays back the tapes …

… oh well apparently Serena is writing a screenplay which she will then star in (according to her) … at least she has a big career in the movies ahead of her …. ha ha ha ha ha ……….


Jim Says:

Two cheers for Mary Carillo. Mary Carillo is right. Serena should be suspended because no player is greater than the game. Way to go Mary for speaking the truth and not playing politics.


Mary Says:

How much was Fed fined for smashing his racket this past spring?


Tennisfan Says:

… no one gets fined for smashing a tennis raquet … its when the tournament officials have to try to extricate a tennis ball from the throat of one of their own lines people when things get testy … maybe there is a way of taking this and making it turn out better ??? perhaps Serenas new boyfriend can put her message to a new rap tune ??…..


Mary Says:

Serena was fined for smashing her racket last night.


Tennisfan Says:

… yeah over a lines persons head :) …….


Jon Says:

i’ve never been much of a serena fan, but a quick reality check is is in order: footfaults aren’t EVER called on second serves of critical points on world stage settings. so the rules in black and white may say one thing, but in practice this simply never happens. i’m still not a fan of serena’s, but i at least used to be a fan of the us open. the officials should have put their little rule books aside, used some common sense, and overrulled the call so so they could have finished their fantastic battle. everyone gets bad line calls, but this was flat out interference. then again, focusing on serena’s tantrum is probably more fun…it was quite over the top.


Von Says:

Let’s see how long Carillo will maintain her stance on this matter before cheering for her.


Tennisfan Says:

Does this mean I no longer have to watch another insufferable Williams sister replay tape while a couple of the worlds top ranked players play on court 10?


Tennisfan Says:

… We’ll probably see a new foot fault webcam at next years US Open … you see Serena didn’t really lose … it was just a bunch of bad calls … again …………


Mindy Says:

To Dan,

Thanks for your kind reply. I understand now why you said what you did. I appreciate your response and am really happy that you like Spanish tennis players.

I loved your last comment in Spanish!

Muchas gracias!!


Mark Says:

I have played competitive tennis for over thirty years, hundreds of matches, dozens and dozens of tournament. Singles, doubles, mixed doubles, coed, all you can imagine. In money tournaments and for computer rankings. I have seen many situations, broken racquets, profanity, bad feelings, but never, never, never have I seen any tennis player, at any time, ever threaten anyone. Serena stands alone in that regard. She is a disgrace to the great sport of tennis.


James Lott Says:

Serena has long been a graceless competitor.
She continues to show her thuggish attitude.

Let’s use Hawkeye for foot faults, so that players can challenge the calls.

Meanwhile, ask Serena what she would like to have shoved down HER throat?


Jwimbley Says:

Fed is gonna win. He is Greatest tennis player of our lifetime. I LOVE his cool demeanor,and pleasant smile. Happy for him and Mirka’s twins. They will be easier to care for IF they are identical like mine. Twins are wonderful, mine made up OWN language to talk to each other.


Jwimbley Says:

Totally agree with Tennis guy,who presents LOGICAL judgement. With NO means to justify a foot fault did occur,who knows HOW much lines person might have been paid to provoke situation that occurred. Serena almost NEVEr make FOOT faults,and has never been argumentative,but with no mens to effectively counteract UNFAIR foot fault calls,justifies immeasurable frustration in such a BIG match,all expected her to win–except maybe,Gambling institution.


Linda Jay Says:

Serena is and has always been a spoiled (by her own admission) primadona. She just happened to let out her true colors (no pun intended) at the open. I stopped watching her years ago unless it is a critical match against some I like so I can root for the other player. I will be oh so happy when she finally retires from tennis and takes up permanent residence in the rap world.
Serena is a foul mouthed bitch who thinks she can do anything and the world will continue to love her. Well, those that are just like her will continue to love her.
I only hope she never becomes a commentator because then I will have to give up watching tennis altogether. She is truly a disgusting person.


Bob Says:

One percent “in” is 100% good and if one percent of your foot is on the line it’s 100% a foot fault! SW showed us what she is made of- Inside she is foul and vulgar.


i am it Says:

serena was about to lose the match. the footfault call freaked her out. it was her 3rd footfault in the match and 4th in the tournament. it was a questionable call. time wise it was a bad call. grand slam was in the line.

the umpire should have jumped in and should have asked serena to direct her concerns to the umpire.
the umpire chose to play a spectator. serena should have taken it to the umpire instead of the lineswoman. etc.

whatever serena said to the lineswoman was indefensible and condemnable. she did not tell the whole truth in the interview. her apology should have been more direct and genuine. she should have received greater punishment, monetarily and/ or otherwise.

all these are valid points.

but comments like the following are overtly racist, coming from KKK or Aryan Brothers who wear hoods or those who collect Swastika memorabilia or their sympathizers:

(1) “The Ghetto/hood F-bomb language was colorful. Serena’s black side sure surfaced. She did an injustice to African American’s everywhere.”
(2) “YOU can take the Serena out the ghetto but you can’t take the low class ghetto attitude out of Serena.”
(3) “I think this type of threat must be normal banter in the hood.
“What the hell? Why don’t you just call the sisters “nappy-headed h*s”
(4) “Not with some half pint, fat Asian woman inflicting her two cents in the matter.”


JB Says:

Do all the people who keep saying this was no foot-fault realize that Serena admitted in the post match interview that it very likely WAS a foot fault. The precendent was set…she had been called numerous times during the tournament…she knew it was happening…and she should have adjusted. Her reaction after it happened was “disgusting”…


Ernie the Kim fan Says:

The Toronto Star today rips Serena apart for her behavior at the end of Saturday’s semifinal:

“The Tennis Thug

Serena Williams’ behavior on Saturday night at the U.S. Open was so appalling, so disgraceful on so many levels it’s hard to know where to start…”

http://thestar.blogs.com/thespin/2009/09/the-tennis-thug.html


vijay seethepalli Says:

I have been playing basketbal upto university level, and where there is sport there is aggression and where there are men theres a lot of aggressive behavior – everyone knows its part of the game attatude to win – pretty harmless

The referees are always cursed , some minor faults of players – which may lead to debate – during important stages are also promptly ignored by experienced referees. First the referee is supposed to be cool, not competing against the player, secondly whatever sports ppl say during the game is thier own war song, nothing personal against a referee or anyone. Its not cool to delay the game at n advanced stage and cool down the players for referees issues. If indeed the referee felt threatened, she should should have waited till the end of set to complain. It shows the referees lack of experience to handle US open level of sport.


Ty Says:

Jay Smith, ur almost as narrow minded as those stupid lineswoman or linesman. Serena has proven herself to be the best tennis player in the world, matches shes played, millions shes be paid, titles shes won. To give her a flagrant foot foul (which was in fact NOT a foot foul) is absolutely absurd. I feel it does have something to do with race because of her compton backround, serena williams has been by far the best womans tennis player for the past 4 years and STILL hasnt been named number 1. There is no way in hell that our current number 1 safina, has the intensity and or passion for the game that serena displays from tourny to tourny. I think everyone should check there opinion about Miss Serena Williams, because shes not going anywhere but up in the rankings as we speak.


sensationalsafin Says:

Uhhh, Serena’s been number 1, she just hasn’t finished the season 1. And she’s been the overall best for the last 10 years, not just 4.


JWimbley Says:

Eery Seeded player LOST at this Open. How bizarre is that? Like my earlier post, _re-FIXED for GAMBLERS to win) Myearlier post told you this whole thing was FIXED from the beginning?
Little Mis Cinderella–takes out ALL top notch Russians? BOTH top players–Serena AND Federer upset with WRONG calls while opponents outs are ignored? We’ve beengamed folks. Seems rumors about GAMBLING/Tennis might be true. Nobody ever heard of ALL the seeds going out in a tournament–except in this state where corruption runs rampant. No matter,we still got still got Australia and Wimbedon. Oh, and will Serena still LOVE NY? Maybe not–but I betcha she will stay a foot from the foot-fault possibility, maybe this incident might cleanup BOTH sisters double faults, so. Usually something good comes out of otherwise bad situation. BTW, did you hear quiet,non-complaining Federer? Well, everybody knows getting angry DOES reflect itself in less than best.
I’m moving on to my favorite GAMBLING institution as I did not get to bet AGAINST Favored Players Serena and Federer. All the wiser for next USOPEN. I am a quick study. (:)


Gbli Says:

Serena is still my favorite. Sure she acted wrongly but it is blatant provocation and she lost her cool. She is not the first and would not be the last. At the end of the day, people would still be jealous of the Williamses despite what they have brought to the game of tennis.


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