Djokovic Faces Fernando; Oudin, Federer Tonight at the US Open

by Sean Randall | September 9th, 2009, 3:26 pm
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Some thoughts on today’s remaining matches at the US Open which continues today with quarterfinal play. I think Novak Djokovic and Fernando Verdasco will be an entertaining slugfest, but a slugfest Novak will win. ADHEREL

After losing his first two with the lefty Spaniard, Djokovic has won three straight over Verdasco and I think after destroying Radek Stepanek the other night I think he’ll do in Verdasco this afternoon. Fernando certainly has the game and the power to do damage to Novak, but to consistently do it over five sets is another matter against a quality opponent like the Serb. Plus Novak is a far more complete player than Fernando, so I’m picking Novak in four.

Tonight, Roger Federer meets Robin Soderling for a 12th time. Federer has won 11 straight over the Swede including wins in the last two Slams, and I fully expect Federer to roll again tonight. In 26 sets against the Swiss, Soderling’s managed just one set. One set! That’s a shockingly lopsided number and one I don’t think Robin’s going to be able to turn around this evening. He’s certainly got the ability, but somewhere there’s a built-in mental block for Robin when it comes to playing Federer.


In perhaps the bigger match of the evening – at least for us in the U.S. –  the new, fresh face of American tennis Melanie Oudin tries to keep the mojo going against Caroline Wozniacki. The 17-year-old Oudin, who I call a cross between Justine Henin and Lleyton Hewitt, has remarkably and impressively fought her way through four very tough Russians, but tonight she gets a Great Dane who’s coming off a New Haven title and the four wins in Flushing have put her into her first Slam quarterfinal.

Unlike the Russians, Wozniacki is steady and sturdy and I think that will be enough to get her over Oudin. But it should be a tight, nervy affair (what non-Williams match hasn’t been in women’s draw?) but miracle Melanie’s run ends tonight.

And congrats to Yanina Wickmayer (who?) for reaching the women’s semifinals. Anybody pick her at the start of the week, anyone? What a surprise and likely not our last of the tournament.


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278 Comments for Djokovic Faces Fernando; Oudin, Federer Tonight at the US Open

i am it Says:

i like both dj and hot sauce. but you cannot avoid taking side. go dj here !
between fed and soderling the same dilemma. go fed in this one.
won’t be disappointed if hot sauce and soderling win. it’s all good.


i am it Says:

dj looks a bit tight at the start of the match. faces a break point in the opening game. serve inconsistent but 2 aces already.


Kimo Says:

Even thou I’ve been really impressed by Oudin and I think she has a brilliant future ahead of her, I’ll be rooting for my fave, Wozniacki, tonight.


i am it Says:

verdi’s forehand looked tentative. he missed 3 fh that gave dj double break point but verdi dug out of the whole with body serve.


i am it Says:

whole to be corrected hole


tenisbebe Says:

Hmmm – should be a good match Djoko vs Hot Sauce. Let the play begin!


i am it Says:

very passive game from dj. verdi’s 1st serve is not going in so he’s relying on 2nd serve.
so far by 10th game the match remains at 50-50.


i am it Says:

the match swings to 55-45 in verdasco’s favor due to dj’s passivity and ues. but if dj can push the set into a tiebreaker, dj should have advantage.
verdie’s kick serve on dj’s body has been successful.


i am it Says:

this has been a slow and unspirited match with a lot of errors from both.


i am it Says:

i was right about the tiebreak. dj allowed only 2 points and won the 1st set easily. verdi the hot sauce has not been able to get his first serve in. verdi’s has been too tentative and not going all-out on his forehand.


i am it Says:

verdi has twice as many errors as his winners and almost won the first set (9-18). verdie has only 45% first serve in. so you can see how poorly dj played that set (12-9), though a little better than verdi.
the 2nd set has started a little better. some good rallies.


i am it Says:

verdie hit some punishing forehand and broke dj in the 3rd game of the 2nd set. dj looks very frustrated.


i am it Says:

verdi’s aggression has started showing off. dj has been rattled.


question Says:

Hi, I have a question about Djokovic’s use(intentional or not it doesn’t matter) of various ball bouncing before he serves. Are there rules about the server needing to establish a serving style and sticking to that throughout the match? Perhaps I’m not being eloquent enough but I seem to remember hearing there are rules about serving styles. So that players on both ends are not meant to stay on their toes for strange serving patterns. For example, if Boris Becker, who had a very ritualized motion, just walked up to the line and hit the ball while his opponent wasn’t looking. His opponent(most likely Edberg hahha) , is his opponent expected to return “trick” serves? Which leads me back to Djokovic, and his very random number of ball bounces before he serves. Sometimes he will bounce the ball 5 times before a first serve, sometimes he’ll go to 25 bounces. There is definitely(intentionally or not it doesn’t matter) an added responsibility and, in my opinion annoying layer of sportsmanship, put on the returner because of this. The way I see it Djokovic adds an advantage to his side of the court by not following an established pace for serving. Does anyone know if this has been talked about on the air? What, if any, rules are there for serving? Thanks


i am it Says:

verdi is cruising in the 2nd set. dj’s movement has vanished. he looks like the murray of the other day.


i am it Says:

verdie has triple break point. he’s chance to go double breaks up in the 2nd set.
dj saves all 3. ad for verdi.
hot sauce gets the job done at the net with a slice after a few ground strokes. he leads 4-1. he now has more winners than errors in the 2nd set.


margot Says:

i am it: Oh no! Not the curse of the Murray!!


i am it Says:

i will be surprised if dj wins this match with that kind of passivity and clumsy movement.


i am it Says:

breaking dj three times, verdi takes the 2nd set without sweating, 6-1. in 1st set as well he had a couple of set points first.


Shaky Says:

Margot: Looks like Novak went to the same watering hole Murray hung out at on labor day. Heck they might have been drinking from the same glass.

That’s about as drastic a turnaround as I’ve ever seen anyone have on a top 4 guy. I really love those crosscourt backhand returns from Verdasco, really impressive to see him break Novak 3 times in a set. I’m stunned.


margot Says:

Shaky: if u r right, then poor Djko is doomed….


i am it Says:

early projection: hot sauce wins in 4.
feel sorry for dj and his fans.


jane Says:

Looks like Hotsauce may win here eh? Just got back to my office and unfortunately cannot watch the streaming but can see the scores. Tight first set and then what? Hotsauce found his moxy? Well the best man on the day will win: c’est la vie. I’m not the least surprised Fernando can break Djok’s inconsistent serve considering the way he handled Isner! By stats looks like he’s all over Djok’s second serve.


Kimmi Says:

It is still anyones game, but Djoko need to step up..its been all verdasco from set 2, set one was topsy turvy..both players making too many errors and scared of going for it..the commentators saying its very wind today, could be the reason for the poor play but there was no wind on verdasco side on set 2.


i am it Says:

it is not that dj earned the 1st set. verdi gifted that one to dj.
dj is losing this match not because verdi is playing lights out. dj is beating himself. he looks lifeless out there.


jane Says:

Ah, thanks for the update. So Djok was drinking from Murray’s watering hole? Not good. I am going to try to get home so I can catch some of it … or maybe I don’t want to! LOL.

Come on Novak, fight a little here!


i am it Says:

that “Come on Novak” may bring some good vibes and rescue dj. seriously.


i am it Says:

and it did, j. thanks.


scineram Says:

Nole wakes up.


i am it Says:

dj has to serve a little better to consolidate the break and take 4-2 lead in the 3rd set.


i am it Says:

now dj faces a break point after 30-0. and gets broken. that hurts.


Kimmi Says:

After working so hard to get the break, Novak gives it back..but Vedarsco was aggressive in that game.

verdasco FH if it connects is a killer..


i am it Says:

dj just cannot get his 1st serve in.


sheila Says:

i’m rooting for verdasco all the way to win djoko. and i’m rooting for federer to take the whole tournament!!!!!!


i am it Says:

verdi commits back to back double and faces break point but he saves it with a big serve, bettering in a long rally, and hitting a passing shot on dj’s poor drop volley. he leads 4-3.


i am it Says:

dj holds to level. 4-4. verdi looked a bit shaky in the last 5 points.


i am it Says:

verdi holds despite losing a couple of points. 5-4.
dj could not take advantage.


jane Says:

I guess I will sit here in my office and watch the scores until the end of the second set: that way I can drive home either bolstered by Djoko’s chances (i.e. if he’s up two sets) or resigned to the fact that Verdasco was/is better today (if he’s up two sets).

i am it – so true. Djoko’s serve is inconsistent, and since his second serve is less of a weapon (maybe even somewhat of a liability), if his first serves aren’t firing it can really affect his game overall. I think it depends on the player as to whether or not the first serve is crucial. Players like Roddick or Fed, who have great second serves, can get by in a lot of matches even if their first serve isn’t so great that day, whereas Djok and Murray (maybe even more than Djok) have weaker second serves so need those first serves… Someone like Isner too needs that first serve.


jane Says:

Well, Isner’s second serve is pretty wicked too, but it did seem returnable and exploitable against Verdasco the other day.


i am it Says:

this 3rd set is crucial for both. verdi looks sharper at this point.
dj holds. 5-5. we may be heading for another tie break.
1st point goes to dj. 0-15. 2nd serve. verdi misses. 0-30. serves ace down the T. 15-30. 2nd serve. verdi misses back hand slice from the net. 15-40.
dj overhits the return. 30-40. verdi hits big forehand down the line. deuce. huge forehand from dj. Ad for dj. another chance to break. 2nd serve. verdi misses in the rally.
dj breaks. he will be serving for the set.


jane Says:

* @5:55 I mean until the end of “third” not “second” set… clearly…


i am it Says:

j, dj needs your good luck “Come on Novak.”


i am it Says:

dj takes the 3rd set. that is something hopeful.


jane Says:

Phew! Will drive home with some hope for Novak.

Fingers & toes crossed.

Cheers i am it, for those updates.


i am it Says:

dj may be able to pull it off. he now gave us something to stay hopeful.


jane Says:

Here’s one more for the road: “Come on Novak!!!!” Fight!


i am it Says:

dj had a break point in the 1st game of the 4th. he even got a second serve but overplayed and squandered. he should have been able to put that away. verdi dug out of the hole with an ace.


i am it Says:

dj is slacking a bit in the 2nd game of the 4th but he holds with an ace. 1-1.


Kimmi Says:

WHY WHY verdasco did not challenge..strange ! If you think its in then challenge..sheesh !


i am it Says:

3rd game. verdi double faults twice. it’s deuce. 2nd serve. overhits backhand down the line. dj has ad. break point. another forehand error.
dj gets the break. 2-1.
a trainer has been called for verdi’ stomach bandage change.


i am it Says:

verdi did not take medical time out. simply his bandage was removed.


i am it Says:

dj double faults and faces a break point. that so stupid. barely saves by playing corner and stepping to the net.
he just cannot get his 1st serve in.
after a long rally, he rips backhand down the line. and game point. he serve well and it’s 3-1.


i am it Says:

beautiful shots from dj. 0-30. second serve. net chord got verdi there. triple break point for dj. verdi’s forehand goes in the air.
dj takes double break. 4-1.
finally some breathing room.
trainer has been called again for verdi. he put 2 strips in there. a kind of patch up work. a quick work. no medical time out taken.
back to the court.


i am it Says:

easy game for dj. 1 game away from moving to the semi.


i am it Says:

verdi holds. 2-5. the trainer is back for the 3rd time.


i am it Says:

triple match point for dj. easy service game after a brief cat and mouse exchange of soft volley at the net. congrats to him. he survived. through to the semi.

gallant effort from hotsauce despite stomach tear or whatever. kudos to him.


Kimmi Says:

Verdasco aggrevated his injury but Djoko improved his game, played much better in the end and served well too. Good win and effort to get to his 1st semi of a GS this year.


jane Says:

Wow – got home to catch the final game. :-) Super! I am please to see he’s FINALLY made a grand slam semi this year, and that he’s defending his result from last year. Whatever else is gravy.


vared Says:

What the hell happened to Djok in the 2nd set? I just got home to see the third set end.


i am it Says:

that “Come on Novak” did the trick. he should thank you.


Kimmi Says:

Talking about hyping Oudin !!!! On par with Murray hype at Wimbledon. I hope her great story continues but it will be the biggest hurdle thru Wozniacki.


Tennisfan Says:

Djoko hasn’t looked that impressive through the entire series … Verdasco would have won if not for his stomach muscle? problem … seems like a bug affecting all the Spanish players :)

The US Media machine has gone into hyperdrive following Oedin now that no American men made the quarter finals for the very first time … what to put on TV??? … wait I’ve got an idea …how about covering some foreign players for a chance :) …


fadingis Says:

how was the djoko match, didn´t see it:(


fadingis Says:

here in uruguay(south america) the passed no repeted machs :)


Kimmi Says:

Is oudin going to start this bad every match, so many UE..she cannot keep doing this all the time, she won’t have time to come back.


jane Says:

Kimmi, I think it’s her MO to lose the first set… just kidding. But she’s been able to come back every time I guess.


Kimmi Says:

She have to win this game second set…yes she did it. Hopefully it will give her the momentum she needs


Kimmi Says:

The cinderella run is probably ending here..


jane Says:

Kimmi, do you have a fave in the women’s? I can’t remember if you’re a Serena fan or not. For me it doesn’t really matter who wins it, but some of the ladies’ matches have been enjoyable. Oudin has contributed a lot to that.


jane Says:

Congrats to Woz – and major Kudos to Oudin, who has contributed a lot of excitement to this slam!! Both winners, in a way…


Kimmi Says:

Jane, Serena is OK, sometimes I find myself rooting for her but not this time… since Clijsters have done so well here, I can’t help to have a soft spot for her. She is playing great and great pesornality too. I hope she wins tomorrow but Serena is soo good right now, will be a tough task.

The one that I wanted so much to win was Kutzy, but how dissapointing, the match was there for the taking.

Well..cinderella too many errors today I am afraid, wozniacki did not have to do much just put the ball in play..a good learning for her and hope she can learn a lot and come back strong.


jane Says:

Yeah Kuzy is such a good player, but Woz played well to beat her the other day. Woz seems excited to be in her first grand slam semi, like she can’t believe it. That’s always nice to see. Same with watching Oudin winning. Players have so much fun on the way up when they don’t have to defend anything, lol!

At least Kuz won the French and broke that long break between her first and second slam title.

I guess it’ll likely be Serena winning the title – I don’t think Kim will beat her, but I hope it’s a decent match. As for Wickmayer, I have hardly seen her play so I have no idea.

Anyway I suppose you’re excited to watch Fed/Murray and now that Murray’s out are cheering on Roger for another title.

I wouldn’t mind if Rafa won actually, since he played so well against Monfils last night and it would mean he gets a calendar slam too. I don’t think Djok will get past Roger. So it’ll likely be JMDP/Nadal vs. Fed in the final. But who knows… Gonza, Sod, Cilic, Djok might have other ideas. : )


jane Says:

@9:21 sorry Kimmi I meant excited to watch Fed/Sod…


jane Says:

@9:21 doh! I meant a “career” not calendar slam – long day. sigh.


Kimmi Says:

Yes I agree Woz did well and the smile is beutiful to see. She has a chance to get to the final, can she believe it…probably have to thank oudin for taking out all those dangerous floaters.

Murray, what a loss..no energy..nothing. Some people say he trained too much and he run out of gas…don’t know but congrats to cilic..read his interview and he is so happy..its difficult for these guys to break that hurdle..he said he lost R16 so many times and thought he can never break thru but he is done it…

Can’t wait for Rafa/JMDP..great chance for JMDP here if he can get passed Cilic.

Congrants for Djoko win, he gets a chance to play Fed and thats what matters…you never know what can happen..but fed needs to get out of this one first.

C’mooon Fed.


Kimmi Says:

two break chances for sod


i am it Says:

at this point if any one has a shot against fed it is dePo
for sod to make it a match he’s gotta return a little quicker and come to the net occasionally to keep fed guessing. he has one of the biggest forehands in the tour that can do some damage. also he should keep mixing his shots whenever he cannot go for outright winners.
or else fed will eat him alive.


Kimmi Says:

Tough game for fed to hold…some great diffense too.


i am it Says:

fed has a way to get out of hole. he has great serve. both 1st and 2nd. it won’t be easy to break him even if he is triple break points down.


Shaky Says:

Yeah Roger looks quite sharp here. Soderling has an awesome stance on that forehand side, it’s cartoonish it’s so exaggerated.

Look at how much the wind is carrying the ball by the way. Wow. If soderling can get it together this could be a fun match.


Kimmi Says:

Fed looks SHARP


jane Says:

I read that Lendl was on today and they interviewed him – did anyone see that?


i am it Says:

fed is just too good. he cruises like a smooth operator. 3-0. everything he does is beautiful and flawless.


Kimmi Says:

Too good today Fed..nothing wrong yet


i am it Says:

soderling is being molested. i feel sorry for him. fed is sending out a message tonight how sharp he is. it’s just mind-boggling. awe-inspiring.


i am it Says:

can soderling win a game in this set? this is demoralizing.


Shaky Says:

… by “fun match” I meant Roger would enjoy himself.

apparently.


i am it Says:

i am worried fed might give soderling a canary.


Veno Says:

My goodness
Fed really wants his 22nd straight semifinal.
I feel bad for Robin. He was really looking forward to take it to Fed today. The first gasme he was hammering, Fed scraped through, woke up and decided he put the pedal down oh my…


Shaky Says:

Jane — they had him on during the Novak match. Nothing amazing, just talking about how Novak had to shift his weight better on his forehand, and then some observations on preparation/fitness (who better to go to for info on this than Lendl the machine?).

I thought it was neat. :)

Hey here’s a question: isn’t soderling’s power attack game supposed to be similar to Del Potro’s? Isn’t this kind of style playing right into Fed’s wheelhouse? If so, why do people think Del Potro is going to beat Federer (if that matchup materializes)? Is Delpo that much better at it?

Soderling isn’t even playing that badly.


Eric Says:

this is too amazing.

also, it’s nice to see roger coming to the net ALL THE TIME (even if he does end up losing the point a lot when soderling gets to the ball after all).


i am it Says:

with 44% 1st serve in fed can do this. that’s crazy.


jane Says:

Thanks for the reply Shaky. I liked Lendl’s discipline and he managed to maintain his focus in during a lot of J-Mac tirades too. LOL. Anyhow, wish I could’ve caught him as I haven’t seen him around at many events. Who interviewed him? Tell me it was John, please…

——–

Delpo will mix it up a little more than Sod, imo. Sod getting smacked down. Power right back at him or blunted at the net. Can’t really argue with that.

Hope that Sod can at least make a match of this though, for his own sake.


Veno Says:

Come on Sod, get on the board my friend!


Veno Says:

Good for Robin!


Eric Says:

first serve % is way overrated. i don’t have stats memorized to back it up but i know federer has been around 50% a lot this year. it’s obviously not that big of a deal.


i am it Says:

soderling finally avoided a canary. won a game. wow.


Veno Says:

Fed in this form, none of the remaining players will pose any threat whatsoever.


jane Says:

Eric, I think it depends on the player re: %. Fed’s second serve is so good it doesn’t matter if his first isn’t connecting. But for Djoko or Murray, their second serves, particularly Murray’s (sorry margot…) are not nearly as good and so it matters for them. Do you think that makes sense? Or no?


Veno Says:

Eric Says:

first serve % is way overrated. i don’t have stats memorized to back it up but i know federer has been around 50% a lot this year. it’s obviously not that big of a deal.

You’re kidding right?

Roger’s for this year is 62% and that’s including low 50’s during his back problem…


Eric Says:

Jane, it’s definitely true that it’s more important for some players but it seems like recently it’s become the number 1, most important stat people care about to judge how well a player is doing (aside from “are they winning?” of course), which is just ridiculous. of course it’s important to get your first serve in, but it’s not the end of the world for some players (like Federer). On this very forum people say “Federer is doing so well with such a low %!” half the time he plays. And yet he’s doing amazing. so obviously not that important.

Veno, I guess I exaggerated how low it was, but, again, I remember it being in the low 50s for some matches as recently as Montreal or Cincinnati, where he obviously played pretty well overall.


Veno Says:

Agree Eric, but against a big hitter like Sod on a HC it’s pretty special to bagel him on 44% 1st serves!


Kimmi Says:

NOOO WAY..Magician


Shaky Says:

Jane — they had him in the booth. Think it was John and Dick. It was probably for a good 20 minutes, he had some good advice for novak and such, and stayed away from verdasco since he said he’d never hit with him so he didn’t have a good feel for his ball. (I giggled when he said that, sorry. Couldn’t help it.)

Lendl does look the worse for wear. He’s clearly not been playing the senior circuit. But they showed some of his stats… I had no idea he had been to 19 finals! Since Roger’s got the record at 20, I guess he just broke that.

This match would be painful to watch if I were a big soderling fan. He’s not playing badly at all, Roger’s just in a zone. The wind is not having any effect on him at all, he’s dominating.


i am it Says:

is that racket disfigurement gonna help soderling?


jane Says:

Eric, point taken. It just seems that when I watch some players, if the first one goes in, they just have a way easier time of it as they’re not on defense right away. Fed’s really taken Pete’s adage “you’re only as good as your second serve” to new heights. (or I think it was Pete who said that…)

Speaking of being on the defense, er, good luck to Djoko in the next round! LOL. He doesn’t have a hope. Maybe he can keep the mood light, like in Cincy during the final, and not break too many racquets; I see Sod just trashed one.


Eric Says:

Well I would say a bagel is pretty special regardless but yeah, agreed. :D

This at least is not embarrassing for Soderling any longer. He’s had some great plays so far too, but Federer is on top of things. I hope he doesn’t exhaust all of his good form now and then lose in the semi or final…


i am it Says:

some of fed’s shots tonight are ultimate tennis magician at his best work. he is pulling out unimaginable shots. the efficacy is just soothing.
2 sets under an hour. another 20 min. or so the match is over.
cannot get enough of watching this guy.


Veno Says:

Insane passing shot!


Veno Says:

Soderling still giving it his all. I respect that!

Murray should take note!


Shaky Says:

Jane I can’t tell if you’re trying to reverse jinx for Novak here.

Honestly, I don’t think your guy is going to worry about this at all. There’s just no way Federer can play like this through Sunday.

There, I just talked myself into it. See how easy that was?


Veno Says:

Fed doubles. He looks like Safina!!!


Veno Says:

lol@Shaky


Kimmi Says:

“Fed doubles. He looks like Safina!!!”

Veno LOOOL…if Safina serves like this, Serena and everybody else in WTA, watch out.


jane Says:

Reverse jinx doesn’t work Shaky – already tried it in 2007 and 2008 @ USO, both times with Fed and Djoko. So far no go.

The one time I thought he could beat Fed at a slam -AO 2008- he did!

But one has to be realistic, no? Veno is telling me on the other thread I probably don’t wanna see Djok play Fed when Fed’s playing like this. That’s partly true. On the other hand, happy he’s finally made a slam semi this year.


Veno Says:

Sod 2 break points!


Veno Says:

Sod 1 break point!


Kimmi Says:

2 breakpoints went begging for sod..must hurt


i am it Says:

sod has a chance to open a 4-2 lead. double break point. Lol.


Veno Says:

He’s even challenging correctly….ugh


i am it Says:

sod messed it up. he could not do it.
shame on fed !


Kimmi Says:

I predict for Sod to take this set to tie breaker


i am it Says:

sod leads 4-3. what turnaround !


Von Says:

Eric: “first serve % is way overrated. i don’t have stats memorized to back it up but i know federer has been around 50% a lot this year. it’s obviously not that big of a deal.”

I’ve said this umpteen times but some harp on this stat as though it’s the alpha and omega of the match stats. It’s what a player does with his serve that counts, and that’s all that matters.


i am it Says:

i hate fed for not losing a set. he’s so hatable.


Eric Says:

suddenly soderling is playing really well and Federer’s amazing brilliance is gone. I have an uneasy feeling that Soderling will manage to pick up this set. But Federer usually steps up to these sorts of things, so hopefully not…


Eric Says:

well. I guess my fear was unfounded. still Soderling seems determined to prove that he does, in fact, deserve to be in the match.


Kimmi Says:

Eric, Fed still playing well so far. His serve has picked up considerably..Sod is also serving much better too, picking his spots well..


Veno Says:

Sod served impressive this set. Easy service games
If he can take the breaker who knows…


i am it Says:

fed should gift the set to sod. just for fun.


blah Says:

Looks like Federer was in/was top form tonight… (so far.)

Von- I think it’s different based on each player. For players who don’t need to rely on huge serving or players who have great/good second serves, it’s not a big deal.

And whether Soderling wins this set or not Federer will win.


Eric Says:

Sorry, I didn’t mean he wasn’t still playing well — just that the awe from the first set or so is gone. (Maybe it seems ordinary now.)


Veno Says:

no one else can hit that shot


jane Says:

Eric says ” I guess my fear was unfounded.” I guess so. It does seem like Sod’s working his way into the match, so I can understand your concern, but as Mac said, to have a chance he needed to *start out* playing like his is now. Mac has noted too that Sod’s footwork isn’t up to par. Hadn’t really noticed.


blah Says:

I doubt fed loses the tiebreak. Look at his shots and how’s he’s gliding around the court.


i am it Says:

sod in interview: i played one set good.


jane Says:

blah says ” I think it’s different based on each player.” Me too, that’s what I mentioned above to Eric.

Looks like Fed should take the tiebreak, already up 3-0.


Kimmi Says:

What is sod doing, don’t give fed freebies, let him earn it.


Veno Says:

Great shot by Sod


Kimmi Says:

OH NOOO…


Eric Says:

sheesh what’s going on here


Veno Says:

oh my!!!!!!!!!


blah Says:

I don’t know why Federer got defensive for those few shots. Is this the first time Mirka’s made an appearance since the babies?


Von Says:

blah: I agree that it depends on the player, but as I said some posters talk about this stat as though it’s the most important factor in the match. You’d see them say, player A is playing OK but he needs to get his first serve percentage up. Meanwhile, the guy is blasting winners on his groundies, or the opponent is hitting UEs..


i am it Says:

sod had a set point. he effed it up.


Von Says:

blah: I’ve seen Mirka throughout the USO.


Veno Says:

4th set!!!!!!!!!!


Eric Says:

WELL. That was unexpected! What happened to that 4-0 lead? Ouch!


Von Says:

Wow, Soderling has won a set!!!!! We have a match and this is no ‘yokeing’ matter.


blah Says:

Von, if you are referring to Federer, then yeah, it’s a non issue.

Fourth set, woo!


i am it Says:

where was this sod in the 1st set? sod wins the set. we have a match.


Daniel Says:

Wow! Who wouyld have thought that Fed’s firts serve deserted him at 5-4.

Great effort from Soderling who shows us that the match is only over when the last point is played.


Kimo Says:

Oh well, the first two sets were too short anyway.

We get to see more of Fed, guys. Cheer up.


jane Says:

Soderling won a set! Kudos for him as I think it’s only the second one in a number of tries, and it will make that bagel easier to digest :)

blah Mirka has been at other matches here. She looks very well; life must be good – no colic! Or else awesome nannies. Or probably both.


Shaky Says:

Now THAT was a tiebreaker.

Props to Federer for that save at 6-5. He ran down that dropshot like it was practice.

I LOVE soderling going for 2nd serves at 115. And I LOVE the forehand windup. Nothing but respect for this guy: he’s gonna fight this one out. He’s played well for 3 sets, and now he’s still in the match, especially if Fed has a letdown.


i am it Says:

i want this sod more so we get a five setter.


blah Says:

Djoker needs to step his game up or it’ll be over pretty quick for him if Fed played like he did today (not counting the last few points of the tie breaker).

I don’t think Soderling can comes back from two sets down against Roger on such an occasion, but would like to see him continue blasting those flat forehands.


Mary Says:

Fed will finish this match in the next ten minutes.


i am it Says:

fed lost the tie break because of what? poor 1st serve.


Kimmi Says:

0-30 Now its getting too close


blah Says:

If he takes this set, how good is Soderling? The only ones he would have lost to in slams since Fo is Roger, and he also beat Nadal on FO.

and I am it: he lost it because of the passive play on the last few points and Soderling just going for it all on the groundies. Robin didn’t make that many first serves in last tiebreak points either.


jane Says:

i am it, I thought Sod had a little something to do with why Fed lost the tie break. :)


blah Says:

What are you thinking Soderling…ugh… why would you not go for that


Von Says:

Mary: @ 11:22 pm, that was 7 minutes ago, and they’re still 1-1, so i’m thinking we’ll be seeing about 30 more minutes of tennis.


blah Says:

0-30 and you don’t chase down the ball… might be the best shot you see from here on…


i am it Says:

that line call was not fair.


jane Says:

When they show Pascal Maria behind that mic the mic looks almost as big as his head. LOL.


Kimo Says:

Guys, relaaaaaxxxx. There’s just no way Fed will lose this thing, even it it does go to a fifth.

It’s great being a Fed fan. Life is good.


Mary Says:

Von: This is a good match now. Oh well, wishful thinking.

Blah: that 0-30 non-shot is the one that will run thru Sod’s mind from now until eternity.


Veno Says:

respect to Sod. Always like his attitude, never gives up!


Polo Says:

You guys left me behind in the other thread! Veno will have the shock of her life when she wakes up and reads about the result of this match.


Von Says:

Veno: Sod acts very mature for his age. I thought you fell asleep.


Kimmi Says:

Fed is starting to make errors now..come on


Von Says:

Polo: I followed Veno over here. You will get the shock of your life, surprise, surprise, Veno will tell you that he’s a machismo male stud. LOL. Get it, he’s a he, not a she.


Von Says:

Mary, aren’t you happy your prediction was wrong?


Polo Says:

Federer is now playing like the Federer that loses regularly to Nadal. If he loses, he deserves if for playing the last few games of the tiebreak lackadaisically. You will never see Nadal play like that at any point of a match.


i am it Says:

big first serve helps sod dig out of that hole.
he is still hanging in there.


Mary Says:

Polo: I read the recent comment section and never noticed that I was in a new thread until I read your post.

Fed has that ENOUGH look on his face.


i am it Says:

give sod a couple of 2nd serve and see what happens.


Polo Says:

Veno is a he? I just got the shock of my life! Hahaha!!!


Veno Says:

Yes Polo, He(Veno) is muy mucho machismo man :)


jane Says:

I just told my husband I’d eat my sock if Soderling wins this in 5 sets.


Mary Says:

Von: Yeah, it gets old watching Fed start to daydream about fashion shows, but it’s pretty awesome when he zones back into the match.

OMG Those snuggie wearing women, ESPN just showed them, is the reason why we must give Queens to real Long Island.


Veno Says:

Sod is whacking some balls, people maybe now get how he hammered Rafa in Paris :)


Mary Says:

Jane: tell your husband to man up and demand that you eat both socks.


Kimo Says:

Polo said:

“You will never see Nadal play like that at any point of a match.”

True, but that’s why Nadal will be no where near the top 10 when he’s 28, let alone be no.1.

Fed has the right balance. He knows which balls are worth scarmbling for and which aren’t.


Von Says:

Mary: I did the same as you, I just followed the posts and wound up here.
__________________________
Polo: Now you’ve done it! You’re going to hear all about Veno the machismo guy, and his hotties. LOL. Why did you ever make the mistake of asking?


Kimo Says:

jane said:

“I just told my husband I’d eat my sock if Soderling wins this in 5 sets.”

LOL. I’m sure he didn’t buy it.


Veno Says:

Good performance yet again from Sod


Von Says:

“OMG Those snuggie wearing women, ESPN just showed them, is the reason why we must give Queens to real Long Island.”

Hey Mary: Don’t knock Queens and Long Island, I lived there.


Veno Says:

It’s unbelievable how hard Sod hits the ball…
Harder than Gonzo and DelPo for sure!


Von Says:

this set has tie-break written all over it.

Veno, call in sick tomorrow, I give you permission.


Von Says:

For a moment Fed looked like he was wearing a shawl. LOL.


blah Says:

LOL Jane.

All Fed needs to do is to be aggressive like he was. maybe a break here will do it.

Soderling does hit the flattest of anyone on tour. Well maybe Blake is tied with him, but Blake never makes it in anyway.


Veno Says:

Nope, always go to work….no worries


Kimo Says:

Veno said:

“Harder than Gonzo and DelPo for sure!”

No one hits the ball harder than Gonzo. Period.


Polo Says:

Von, I don’t know where I got the idea that Veno could be a girl. And I was so worried that Veno is staying up so late and would not have enough beauty sleep. Who cares about how he looks now?

Time for Federer to break so we can all go to bed and be full of sweet dreams and health and quiet breathing.


blah Says:

Gonzo doesn’t his his backhand as hard.


Mary Says:

Von: but you left and you did not take those women with you, so hush up;>

Kimo: Leave Nadal alone. He was resting his knees by playing beach volleyball and soccer and golf and jet skiing and tennis, and then he cried when Uncle Toni told him to clean his room and then when he was resting, his parents’ divorce papers fell on his abs and now his abs are hurting.


Veno Says:

Sod not yoking around


Mary Says:

Polo: This is what Veno looks like when the guy does not have rest:
http://tiny.cc/veno


Veno Says:

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!


i am it Says:

fed has already fired 26 aces. that is a set and 30-0. multiply the value / significance when they were fired.


Veno Says:

Crowd wants a 5th set!


blah Says:

Wow unreturned service winners.


jane Says:

Mary, my son said it had to be a stinky one: how’s that? LOL


Polo Says:

I will stop posting for while I get very nervous for Federer. I smell something really bad brewing.


i am it Says:

sod holds in love and 5-5. we may get another tie break.


Kimo Says:

Hey Mary, don’t be down on Rafa. I was just stating the opinion of all tennis experts. No prejudices involved.


Veno Says:

Sod could beat Fed without breaking him LOL


Shaky Says:

You got to love this guy playing high risk tennis. This is how he wants to play, and it can work. I remember back at RG after the final he said the key diff between Nadal and Federer was the speed they let you play at. Nadal let him take control of points early, so he dictated; in the final, Federer didn’t, so he dispatched him easily. Not the case today, this guy has been taking BIG cuts on every first and second serve he can get his hands on, that’s amazing to watch.

Regardless of how this ends, this is as entertaining a men’s match as I’ve seen this tournament. I’m sure Fed’s going to take this tiebreaker, but I love this guy’s mentality and I’m kind of sad that he ran into Roger early in a slam again.


Veno Says:

Sod wasn’t liked by players and crowds and look what he managed to do in a few months!

Bet the New Yorkers are loving the fight he’s putting up!


Kimo Says:

Polo said:

“I will stop posting for while I get very nervous for Federer. I smell something really bad brewing.”

what is it with you people? You act as if the last 22 slams where Fed made the semi Fed was never challenged or stretched to five sets. If you really know Fed and you’re really a Fed fan, you wouldn’t be so nervous.


Von Says:

Polo: Forget about what Veno looks like, he’s a machismo dude. LOL
_________________
Mary: I’m now the young chick among the older ladies here in Florida and life’s good. I was insulted a few days ago when an older looking rich guy asked me out for a date at the drug store. I suppose I looked sad because the pharmacist asked if I wasn’t feeling well. LOL.


Mary Says:

Kimo: So was I, seriously I was just combining all of the stories this summer.


blah Says:

Fed will get out of here soon.


Veno Says:

Breaker!!!!!

Crowd going wild!!!!!


Mary Says:

Von: In Florida, isn’t the pharmacy like the singles club? I cannot fathom what it would be like to be the young one there. Poor girl.

Yay, tie break!!!!


Von Says:

Oh man, I give Sod credit here 30-30 and still going for his shots. I can’t begin to imagine the tension he’s feeling. Well, i said tiebreak was written all over this set and so it is.


i am it Says:

let fed’s overrated first serve percentage drop down in the tie break and we have a 5th set.


Mary Says:

Jane: You husband and son digging in the dirty laundry to find you a sock?


Von Says:

Mary: One day, I was waiting for a prscription, and sat down next to a guy by the Pharmacy and he gave me his card. So, as i said, i feel like a young chick here. LOL.


Von Says:

Fed’s missing with his FH. C’mon Sod, let’s have a 5th set.


jane Says:

No way Mary – I can’t see it. But I’ll do it if I have to. This might be Fed’s one 5 setter, like at all the other slams lately. He always has one nail-biter but comes through.


Veno Says:

set point!!!!!!!!


i am it Says:

fed is acing good. 2 in a row.


i am it Says:

sod replies with two aces.


Veno Says:

too much adrenaline for Sod there…
Can he get set point on his own serve?


Veno Says:

What a chance for Robin!!!!!!!


Mary Says:

I know I’m really into it when I start watching the live scoring on the US Open site. ESPN has a delay.

Von: stay away from the early-bird buffets.


Von Says:

Ohhh what a miss by Sod.


i am it Says:

sod failed. he had opportunity to win the set. he won’t get another.
now match point for fed.


Daniel Says:

Soderling really is one of the most dangerous players on the tour. Uff, Great win for Fed!!1


Veno Says:

Wow……22 semis!!!!!!!

And how about a hand for Sod!!!!!!!!!!!

What an effort!!!!!!!!

Murray should take note of Sod’s attitude!!!


Mary Says:

Wow, Awesome match in the end!!!!

I’m going to hope the d train and go find Sod to comfort him. Oh wait, I still want to watch Top Chef.


i am it Says:

fed wins. congrats. sod made it a match. thanks to his effort.


Kimmi Says:

OMG..What a match..and how does fed does this over and over again..unbelivable. Congratulation Master.


Polo Says:

So guys, what did I tell you? That this would go five sets and will have a shock ending. Well, I was dead wrong!

Goodnight everyone. I had a lot of fun tonight. I love you all. That includes you, Von.


Kimo Says:

Seeeeeee?????

Now what did I tell ya? And that’s why Fed’s my guy :)))


Mary Says:

hope s/b hop. I may be projecting.

Jane: you are lucky.


Shaky Says:

He went for 3 BIG 2nd serve return winners, missed all 3. What a freaking tiebreaker.

Keep rolling those dice Robin! Guy’s got balls like planets. That’s how you take it to a great tennis player! Take some calculated risks, take control of the point early, make your mark!

Big grats to Roger, as usual he weathers the storm and comes through. Tourney’s on notice.


jane Says:

Oooo Sod blew that shot.

But I think that’s the most I’ve cheered for Fed to come through in a while. Didn’t wanna eat that sock. Anyhow…turned out exciting. So kudos to Sod for picking it up and congrats to Fed for the win. Fed, be nice to Djok!


Von Says:

Well, that’s it folks. Fed wins again.
___________
Veno, go to sleep and sleep well.
____________
Goodnight all, it was fun.
_______________
Mary, I never go to the early bird anything. Too many old folks and I fe’d feel as though I’m in the Geriatric Ward.


blah Says:

ugh. I hate being right.


blah Says:

That’s the problem with high risk tennis; when it can keep up, it can and does beat anyone, but that rarely happens. Took place for Soderling against Nadal, no repeat here.


Von Says:

Polo: I love you too, and Veno, j’etaime.


Veno Says:

Agree Shaky on both Sod and Fed.

It’s this attitude that made him post the win over Rafa at the French, probably the only player on the tour who in his mind didn’t lose already before he stepped on Court Central


Veno Says:

Von!!!!! tu m’aime? Wow, what a surprise…

Where did the bien go? Your husband notified already?


blah Says:

Well, good for Soderling that he kept up with his game and didn’t go away. He has had a good year, especially in slams. final at fo and he was taken out by fed in both wimby and here. The guy may hang around for a while.


Veno Says:

No sleep Von, have to be at work in an hour and 45 so I’ll take a shower, have me a breakfast and go to work early :)

I’ll sleep when I get back.


Shaky Says:

High risk but smart also. Like he cracked for some winners there on returns for sure, but all through those last two sets, he was hitting aggressive shots to set up advantageous positions. Wasn’t just winner/ue every time, lots of set up and free swinging. It was the smartest tennis from a non top 4 guy I’ve seen in a long time.

Unfortunate he had to lose today. He could have taken anyone in this tournament at the level he played at those last 2.5 sets.


Von Says:

blah: why did you have to be so right? I wanted a 5th set.


Veno Says:

And Sod did Fed a favour too….

He knows he can’t slip up, not even a bit against Novak and the finalist because he’ll be in a dog fight. If he had cruised in straights…

he might be a little less sharp come match. All speculation though, but a reality check like Sod gave him there can’t hurt even the experienced master!


Veno Says:

Agree Shaky, it was the only chance he had to beat Fed. Like at Roland Garros he has painted some lines, especially impressed with how flat and deep he hit his FH, like Nadal in Paris almost hitting through Fed, Fed struggled to get it back deep enough. It’s a good thing Fed has such a firm wrist!


Von Says:

Veno: I thought I’d make tonight special for you. Fed wins and now I’ll throw in a j’etaime, to make things even sweeter for you. How lucky can one guy get! LOL.


blah Says:

shaky: yeah, but when it doesn’t work, you get Blake, and I wouldn’t say that Harvard helped him in being a smart player. It’s smart in the sense that aggressive is his style though, no point in playing a type of game you are not comfortable with against someone like Fed.

Von: I was trying to not jinx Sod. I probably wanted a 5th set more than you did. But I doubted Soderling could take out both Nadal and Fed in their favorite slams in the same year.


Von Says:

blah: Blake needs a compass, not Harvard.


Veno Says:

I’ll take it Vonnie!

My man showed his mental strength yet again. And let’s be fair, sets 3 and 4 were a pleasure to watch.

Sod made my heart rate rise and I like that feeling…

I like the guy. There’s something unique about him.

I think he will be a force next year in the slams…

It took Fed the last 3 times to stop him and even though he won only 1 set in those 3 matches…
5 of them were tiebreaks!!! And he has won a tiebreak at a slam now. He knows he can go toe to toe with Fed and he even beat Rafa on Clay so the rest better watch out next year!


steve Says:

“He could have taken anyone in this tournament at the level he played at those last 2.5 sets.”

Anyone except for the man who beat him, you mean.

Federer has now beaten him in three straight majors. The only time Soderling wasn’t in Federer’s half of the draw, he made it to the final. Their matches were all close, all involved tiebreaks, and in all cases it proved almost impossible to break Soderling’s serve once he got going.

With such a big serve and huge shots, he can hold serve well, then go for it in the breaker. He’s very very dangerous.

Federer played a bit passively in the last two sets, I feel. He should have attacked the net more instead of trying to rally Soderling. Hopefully he will raise his level for the semi.


Von Says:

Veno: I ved sets 3 and 4, very entertaining tennis. You don’t need Fed to make your heart rate rise, I can hold your hand and that will happen. LOL.

OK that’s it for me, bon jour, and here’s another j’etaime, just in case you thought your eyes deceived you. LOL Bye, Veno.


Veno Says:

wow, Fed is 2 wins away from a 6th US Open title…
And the first time a slam will be defended 5 times consecutively in the open era, but he’s not there yet.

I think Novak’s already looking for appliances to throw at him, although I think Novak’s skidded a little in his underpants when he saw Fed play..

But new day, everything starts at zero.

Anyone have the weather forecast for me? Rain coming?


Veno Says:

Bye Vonnie and thanks…I’ll hit the shower!


Veno Says:

Steve says: “Hopefully he will raise his level for the semi.”

I know what you mean, but reading that after such a match looks kinda funny LOL


Shaky Says:

Steve — The way he played for 2+ sets there, no, he could definitely have beaten Roger. Roger didn’t play badly AT ALL at any point, Soderling just reached a zone, just like Roger had in the first set.

Doesn’t mean he’ll ever beat Fed, ever. Just means acknowledging how great he was today means you have to admit he could have won tonight, only way to be fair to his effort. It’s not right to say “sure he played great, but no way he could beat Fed. After all, he didn’t.” 2 sets of greatness, who knows what the fifth set would have brought!

But not tonight. Not this year. That’s why Roger’s Roger. I give respect.


steve Says:

Veno: the first two sets were great, but it seemed he did take his foot off the gas a bit and let Soderling settle in the third set.

It’s probably true that it gets much harder to come in against Soderling when he’s playing so well, but I feel he could have mixed it up more.

Ah well. It was a great thrill. And he won, so I’m happy.


steve Says:

Shaky: I give all credit to Soderling. He played spectacularly and his level was high after the first couple sets.

The difference between Federer and the rest of the field is really not that huge. It’s that he will make those one or two crucial shots at crunch time, and they won’t.

This was one of those matches where the narrowness of that edge was revealed.

Yeah, he might have beaten Federer. Anyone might beat Federer. But very few actually have, at least in the big matches.


Shaky Says:

My point was that, setting aside the actual outcome, the level he played at was a level that could compete with anyone.

It just feels very empty when the federer or nadal fans say “ah but my guy did NOT lose, end of story.” Sorry I mistook you for going there.

I’m pretty patriotic when it comes to Americans (doubly in US events)… but I’m disappointed they did an on-court with Oudin after she lost, but not with Soderling. The guy put up a heroic effort against that Roger guy, give him 20 seconds with all the fans he just bought for himself.

I know Oudin was a great story, but believe me that new york crowd ate up soderling there too at the end (and he put up a much stronger fight than melanie did tonight, anyways). Definitely going to the open next year for a night match. :)


steve Says:

It is a shame they didn’t interview Soderling, but I think they customarily refrain from interviewing the loser of the match in order to avoid embarrassing him/her. I know that I’d probably want to go sit in the locker room rather than immediately answer questions about the match.

Of course, if you’re runner-up you have to stand there and give a speech. Soderling did get a chance to do that at the French, and he was pretty funny and gracious. He also made a vow not to let Federer beat him 11 times in a row (which, sadly for him, he wasn’t able to keep).

I think the night matches at the US Open have the best atmosphere of all the Grand Slams. New Yorkers cheering and yelling and heckling at the players, it gives it an edge that the other Slams lack. Let me know how your trip turns out.


Skorocel Says:

Well, what a strange match! First 2 sets – I felt like sending Federer some SERIOUS complain for being so cruel towards a guy who did him such a big favor at the FO earlier this year… and then all of a sudden voila!

But what’s so strange is the fact that Federer wasn’t all that much worse after those brilliant first 2 sets. In fact, he had something like 20-6 W to UE ratio in the 3rd set (!), which only shows you how well the Swede must’ve been playing at that time… And that 4th set tiebreak – well, talk about Fed being lucky in those last 2 shots! That BH, which Soderling missed in the penultimate point (and which would surely have been a winner!), was a heartbreaker for him and a BIG relief for Fed! A real anticlimax and a pity for Soderling! The guy certainly didn’t deserve to lose this one in such a way… Anyway, onto the semis and Djoker!


Giner Says:

I hate being wrong. I said Soderling wouldn’t win a set, but he narrowly won a tie break.

I still stand by my projection that Soderling will never score a win against Federer unless Fed is seriously injured and plays through it anyway. He’s just not the kind of player that matches up well against Fed. He’s a big hitting aggressive player. Fed eats these players for breakfast. What frustrates Fed are the defensive counter punchers who retrieve everything and make him hit more shots and overhit.


blah Says:

True, but I would say he would never win a 5 set format match against Federer, but might win one of the three setters. Big flat aggressive hitters, at their absolute top game (which was what Soderling was the last half of the 3rd set and the 4th set) can hurt Anyone. Federer is not as strong in the master series anymore and Tsonga beat him (yes Fed did choke but still.) Fed is much more comfortable playing these players than counterpunchers though.


Dory Says:

Wow the Soderling vs Fed match was great. Hope Soderling ends up in Nadal’s draw in the next slams. We have 2 Nadal slayers in Soderling and JMDP. Now I’ll be happy if either the Djoker or RF goes to the final as I like them both very much (RF a little more). It is important to note that RF’s 22 GS semifinal record would have extended to finals had it not been for the Djoker at the 2008 Australian Open. Hope it’s a good match and Djoke doesn’t have a bad day. On the other side, JMDP’s my favourite too should he win the USO.


jane Says:

Dory says, “We have 2 Nadal slayers in Soderling and JMDP. ”

Hmmm… not so sure about this. Soderling’s H2H with Rafa is 1-3 in favor of Nadal, and JMDP’s is 2-4 in favor of Rafa. Both of these guys have won their most recent matches against Rafa, though, which might mean a shift in direction. But it’s too soon, imo, to assume that they’d “slay” Rafa were they to meet him in a grand slam match.


Duro Says:

Jane, are you visiting Tennistalk sometimes? It’s great! Totally different kind of people there and very refreshing, much more competitive for sure.

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