Robby Ginepri Caps a Strong Week for U.S. Tennis
by Dan Martin | July 27th, 2009, 10:35 pm
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Early Impressions

There is a buzz on the grounds as it is time to get down to crowning a champion. Recorded music from Indiana’s own John (Cougar) Mellencamp was piped through the stadium prior to the start of the championship match. The crowd looks reasonably large, and my read is that the All-American final has these fans pretty excited. Brad Gilbert is sitting court side for ESPN2 roughly 20 feet from where I am sitting. Cliff Drysdale and Darren Cahill are calling the match. As an aside, watching tennis matches court side is something every tennis fan should do. Sitting this close gives a great feel for the spin, pace and placement of the ball during most rallies. This experience is possible for any fan on side courts early in tournaments.

A Quick First Set

The match starts with Sam Querrey belting a 126 mph serve on the first point leading to an easy hold. Robby Ginepri opened his first service game with a 117 mph serve and each player seems to have come out firing. At 1-1 Sam Querrey falls behind 0-40 after Ginepri dug out a 130 mph serve and hit a backhand passing shot winner. Querrey double faulted away the first service break of the match. After each player held routinely to reach 3-2 Ginepri, Robby fell behind 30-40 but hit a forehand winner to force deuce. Robby worked his way to the net to take the advantage and hit an ace out wide to hold for a 4-2 lead. Querrey lost a 40-0 lead and double faulted at deuce to face what was a de facto set point. Ginepri hit a great backhand pass to claim a 5-2 lead. Robby served out the set 6-2.

First Set Interlude: Nerves, Legs, Lungs

Entering the second set I jotted three words in my notebook “nerves, lungs, legs.” I thought that all three of these factors had to improve for Querrey to rebound and win the title. Querrey’s 32% first serve percentage and 6 double faults in the 1st set did not bode well. The crowd also seemed solidly behind the 2005 champion Robby Ginepri despite the crazy “Samurai” fans and friends of Sam Querrey who flew to the event. The Indianapolis fans are loyal to previous winners as Ginepri enjoyed a solid fan support edge versus John Isner in the semifinal round as well.

Second Set – Double Troubles

Each player held serve fairly routinely through the first 8 games of the second set. At 6-2, 4-4 new balls were put into play as Querrey stepped up to serve. Querrey blasted two 125 mph service winners to jump ahead 30-0. He then hit a 110 mph serve out wide to claim a 40-0 lead. A double fault and two unforced errors later found Querrey at deuce and 6 points from defeat. Querrey fought off 1 break point and held a game point for 5-4. Ginepri hit a backhand winner to force a 3rd deuce and took advantage of a 2nd serve to produce a 2nd break point. Querrey once again double faulted and Ginepri was 1 game from his second Indianapolis title. In the semifinal, Ginepri tightened up when serving for the match, but he hit a service winner, an ace and a service winner to claim 3 championship points. Ginepri employed a drop shot to win the final point of the match and defeat Sam Querrey in 1 hour and 3 minutes.

No Early Impressions

The first time I saw Robby Ginepri play in person was against Lleyton Hewitt in the first round of the 2002 Masters Series Cincinnati. Hewitt was fresh off of a Wimbledon title and was #1 in the world. Hewitt also won the match 6-0, 6-0 and my impression as a fan was that Hewitt had just drilled some poor kid. There was not a lot to say about Ginepri after that match. In 2005 Robby used a win at Indianapolis to propel himself to a great Summer and Fall. Semifinal finishes at Cincinnati, the U.S. Open and Madrid cemented Robby’s status as a top 20 player. A slow hard court and a lot of heat seemed to bode well for Ginepri entering the 2006 Australian Open. Robby lost a 2 set to love lead in the 2nd round and his momentum was seemingly gone. Solid efforts in 2008 aside, Ginepri has yet to show the type of form he demonstrated over the final 5 months of 2005.

I picked Robby Ginepri to win a close match after watching the semifinals due to his consistency, fitness and ability to take the ball early. This ability allows him to blunt some of a massive server’s advantage and force points to be played out rather than end in a thud. Ginepri is fit, has a very solid backhand and is serving well. I can’t say that I expected to see such solid tennis from a player who failed to win a game the first time I saw him in action. Ginepri came across as a nice guy in the post match interviews and also seemed to be ecstatic about winning this event. Robby is at an age and has been through enough ups and downs in his career that he knows that days such as today are not guaranteed. That added sense of perspective makes his result at the 2009 Indianapolis Tennis Championships memorable to me.

Odds and Ends

Cliff Drysdale can project his voice forcefully at times. Generally he is inaudible, but occasionally it was easy to hear his statements. I wonder if the player on the side of the court near the broadcast booth could hear him between points as the booth is not enclosed.

The USTA provided notebooks for the media and the paper within is made of 100% recycled paper so my greening column may be timely.

I will give a more theoretical look at the 4 semifinalists and our doubles champions in my 3rd installment to come out sometime early this week. I will also say more about the post match press conferences.

The Indianapolis community came together nicely to put on a fine event. The ball kids, tournament volunteers and vendors were all quite hospitable and enthusiastic in their work. The work that these people put into the event is largely unseen, but without it there would have been no tournament.


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96 Comments for Robby Ginepri Caps a Strong Week for U.S. Tennis

Veno Says:

Great read Dan.

I’m glad so many turned up to watch the Indy matches despite the depleted field. Pity we have no coverage here of the UO Series(apart from the USO of course) For some reason through the whole season they only show WTA tournaments sigh.

Oh my, Simon Reed wrote an excruciating article about Rafa(thanks for also posting the link on the other thread, Von)
And Mats(well, let’s make another 180 degree turn for a change) Wilander I cannot take serious anymore. He was a great player(before he burned out) but he flipped the script once again in his articel about Fed!!!


Veno Says:

And click the link below to see the action pic of Fed’s Slam Dunk against tommy Haas in the Wimby semifinal(agreed Pete’s dunks looked so aggressive and powerfull and were the best ever, but Roger doesn’t jump to get good altitude, he just taps his foot down and up he goes…amazing)

https://stpeter.im/index.php/2009/07/05/federer/


Dan Martin Says:

Thanks Veno … I had a ball. I got to meet/re-meet someone working with talkabouttennis.com and the publisher of Indianapolis Tennis. Also, I was the only person with credentials to sit courtside for the entire final due to the sun and lack of shade. I figured I can take some sun to get the best possible feel and view of what is happening on court. Luckily the match went 1:03 as I wanted some water pretty badly by the end of the match and I was just sitting and jotting notes.


Von Says:

Dan:

I still have the Indy final on my recorder. Tell me where you were sitting so I can find you in the crowd to see what you look like.

“Luckily the match went 1:03 as I wanted some water pretty badly by the end of the match and I was just sitting and jotting notes.”

It was considered a cool day around 76 degrees at Indy, could you imagine what it’s like to sit in the sun here in Florida for one hour without water?
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Veno: You wrote on the other thread about Fed’s practice sessions in Dubai. I’ve read that he’ll practice for 4 hours non-stop without drinking a glass of water. Wow, he’s so very, very disciplined = Federer wins.


Dan Martin Says:

I was sitting next to the ESPN broadcasters on the umpires side of the net. I had on tan shorts, a dark blue shirt and a white ball cap. My dad saw me a few times on the coverage but I was not featured in any close ups or anything.


Veno Says:

Hey Von. I’ve been to Florida and I tell ya…..I got a new definition of HOT! there. It was hot in Spain, but it’s easier to handle cause although it was almost 100F in the shade, the humidity was only between 28 and 40%.

Good to hear you had a great time Dan(the lack of water supply aside) I had the privilege to sit court side at a Dutch ATP event once(Rosmalen) and I was surprised how fast the ball(and the players) travels. I used to think I could hit a fast ball on the courts but wow….it blew my mind.


Veno Says:

And Von, yes he practices vigorously and I respect that so much.
The majority of people think he just steps on court and his natural ability will give him the match. What he has had to do to remain nr. 1 for 237 weeks with a bullseye painted on his back, pushing all the others and himself to keep improving is amazing.

I remember following him in 2000-2002, a talented youngster, with a good coach(who sadly died in the summer of 2002)
He didn’t have his emotions under control at all back then(I saw him in Rotterdam Feb. ’01) I immediately fell in love with his touch and his movement. I had never seen anything like it.

Andre(Agassi) had great footwork and positioning on the court, mainly through training and conditioning, but when I saw Fed’s movement(considering he isn’t a small/slender guy) I knew I was witnessing a special athlete. I was especially impressed with his weight transfer and his extraordinary ability to absorb the centrifugal forces with his legs directing the laterally aimed force vertically when changing direction so he can move to the opposite side faster than other players


Kimo Says:

Veno, thank you for that slam-dunk pic. Fed’s jump looks devine even in stills :) Amazing elevation!!!!


Lisa Kosanke Says:

Dan – thanks for the shout out to the volunteers. I ran court maintenance for a good chunk of the week and it’s nice to know that someone appreciated all the work our volunteers did. It was trying with all the rain. Despite Roddick pulling out, I thought it was a great tournament and Robby was very deserving in his win.


Dan Martin Says:

Lisa,

I grew up in Louisville and certainly some good-natured ribbing between Kentuckians and Hoosiers was part of my upbringing. Having said that I have never felt more hospitality at a tennis event than I did at Indy this year. I have been to Indianapolis, the Legg Mason in DC, the U.S. Open, Cincinnati, and Newport. Indy was really welcoming. I am sure it was last year but that was the first event I had media credentials so I was a little bit overwhelmed by court side
access and press conferences etc. to notice. Other than 2009 and 2008 I did attend in 2001 as a fan and had a great time.

Great work Lisa.

Dan


jimbojones Says:

Veno is right about how hard Federer works. When Peter L. said the kid is further than Federer was at this stage his next sentence was about Federer being lazy at this age, but that Federer took off like no one else once he started working harder. So it is not just that the kid who has a smooth game is going to win 27 majors or something he just wasn’t as lazy as a youngster.


jane Says:

Yahooo Safin; keep going Safin!!! Marat!


Veno Says:

Lol Jane…..Hey Jimbojones…absolutely true what you write.
It’s not that Federer was lazy per se, but because he couldn’t control his emotions he couldn’t stay focussed for more than an hour. He would start to rant after an hour or so and the tragic accident that cost the life of his coach Peter Carter….(look at this short article:) http://federermagic.blogspot.com/2004/12/who-is-peter-carter.html

….changed his whole mentality and approach to his sport and what it takes to be a winner(in stead of only a very talented tennis player)
And 11 months later we could see the result…


SG Says:

Veno,

Nice article about Peter Carter. Obviously a tragic end to his life but in the short time he was on this earth, he made a difference in lives of the people around him. I particularly liked the portion of the article where the Swiss DC team refused to play unless he was captain.

Another interesting parallel between Federer and Sampras. It really does seem that adversity can make you stronger if you have the right mental make up.


Dan Martin Says:

Interesting points about how Federer’s focus helped and about Peter Lundgren (sp?) quote was edited for copy more so than saying Federer has an heir apparent who will certainly eclipse him or however the quote played out.

On a side note, I got a racket to do an evaluation of and hit with it last night. I still need to do more to evaluate the racket, but it was the first time I have hit in 2009 that my tendinitis did not bother me the next day! I can start playing again and that is good news for me.


Dan Martin Says:

Von did you get to see me on ESPN2? Sad news about Nadal. I hope his health will mend as that is the #1 priority, but his fans (I count myself among them) sure want to see him on court soon.


jane Says:

Von, interesting article about Nadal; he comments that his parents split up BEFORE he won Indian Wells! That changes a lot of the speculation that it was more the divorce than his knees that has kept him out. Clearly, if he was winning and playing knowing the would be getting the divorce, making it public etc, then it wasn’t the main issue. As he says in the article,the main issue is his knees.


Von Says:

Dan Martin:

Sorry, I have not been able to watch the Indy final as yet, but I’ll try to do so this evening and give you my feed-back.


Veno Says:

Hey Von, read the interview, tx for posting the link. I don’t know about you guys, but I’m starting to worry about Rafa. He’s getting more pessimistic imo. At first I just thought, well give your knees a good rest and it will be fine, but it seems like the flamatory symptoms of his tendinitis keep coming back. I really hope he’ll be fit to play soon rather than later.

The Djoko’s are out in Umag.

And nice second round match-ups in LA:
[1] T Haas (GER) vs [WC] J Levine (USA)
[Q] C Ball (AUS) vs [3] D Tursunov (RUS)
E Gulbis (LAT) vs [8] M Safin (RUS)
J Isner (USA) vs M Baghdatis (CYP)

They about to start play there?


Dan Martin Says:

Von,

If your TV screen breaks it is not my fault – a vaguely Basque looking guy taking notes from a distance should not harm your eyes. A close up might …


jane Says:

Veno,

I saw that the Djoko’s lost; I guess they played there in 2007 also, and lost in the 1st round then, too.

I’d sure like to see Safin go further in LA. Gulbis could be a tough test, but it depends if he’s playing well or not.


Veno Says:

Me too Jane. I love Marat, how can you not?! What a character.

I’m wondering how Novak will look on HC. I hope he’ll be strong in Montreal. From Rogers Cup through the USO should be a great opportunity for him to get his on court mojo again.
Also, I know everybody thinks Fed will blow e1 away on his confidence which is sky rocketing, but I don’t know. Have to see him play first….He came off such a big high during 2 months, pressure is fully off now. Let’s see how sharp he’ll be!!!

And hey SG…good to read you again :)


Von Says:

jane:

“That changes a lot of the speculation that it was more the divorce than his knees that has kept him out.”

Sure, does. I think Nadal’s main problem is his knees and not his parents, and I’m glad he mentioned it so that there won’t be any more speculation on the family issues. Next …..


Von Says:

Dan: I don’t think my TV would break watching you, maybe Sean, but certainly NOT Dan Martin. LOL.


Veno Says:

So glad Fed’s deciding to play DC playoff against Italy in September!!!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5geQC22ShTO_jzNBWGa2ohMxtGIHwD99O67EO0

And ESPN’s Tom Perrotta offers an interesting view on Nadal’s tendinitis…see link below:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4363886&name=tennis


Von Says:

Veno:

LA is 3 hours behind US Eastern Standard Time, and I think they begin playing at 11:00 am, which means in a couple of minutes the live scores should start surfacing.

I was so tense watching the live scores last night in Safin v Ginepri and felt confident when I saw the first break in Marat’s favour and ‘Ace#MS” one after for the Russian. I was rooting for Marat since Ginepri already got his title. I mentioned a few nights ago that I’d like to see him take the whole thing, and am hoping he does. C’mon Marat you can do it!


Von Says:

Veno:

Thanks for the explanation on the “Wadden Islands”. You’ve no idea how long I’ve waited to find someone who knows about this fascinating freak of nature. Now that you’ve satisfied some of my curiosity, please indulge me a bit further. Has there been anyone or even a house that was present on the pieces of the islands when they were broken off? I have this scenery in my mind of some poor soul or souls walking around in a circle on their little piece of island. LOL.

Posted July 29th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
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Veno: I asked you this question on the other thread, but decided to move it here so I can get my answer and that scenery out of my head. LOL.


Von Says:

Veno:

Thanks for sharing Tom Perrotta’s article. Of importance, the question below:

“My concern is, can Nadal still be Nadal while playing less tennis? The encouraging news from his interview is that Nadal admits he made some scheduling mistakes this year.”

I don’t think Nadal can be Nadal playing less tennis. His confidence grows when he’s match grooved not match deprived. I think he could make a compromise and train less, while incorporating more doubles matches, and use the doubles on-court time in lieu of practice time. That way he’d still practice for less time and become more match grooved simulataneously, while building his confidence. What do you think?


Veno Says:

Lol Von!

To my recollection it hasn’t happened that a private home got detached from the mainland, simply because of the tidal changes, no people have built their homes too close to the coast line. We Dutch have centuries and centuries of experience coping with challenges put in front of us by mother nature, especially natural water!!!!

Have you heard about the great flood of 1953? After that we have built the “Delta-works” to cope with the rigorous nature of the North Sea.


Veno Says:

A true point Von. I would like to see him play more doubles in lieu of time spent on training, but I am wondering about the following…
I don’t know if his substituting training hours for doubles matches would give him the same mental toughening and physical preparation to get him in the confident mindset that he prepared optimally so he steps on court for his first match, knowing he didn’t leave anything to chance. To me he seems very meticulous about that.


Von Says:

Veno:

Thanks for your input, now I can put my imaginary scenery to rest, where I had some poor soul walking around lost on a piece of island, 5′x8′ or less, without anyone know what happened to them. LOL.

“Have you heard about the great flood of 1953? After that we have built the “Delta-works” to cope with the rigorous nature of the North Sea.”

Yes, read about it in my school books and know for a fact that the Dutch are the best master builders of dykes, dams and sea walls, to keep out the forces of mother nature. Is it any wonder the US called upon your people when New Orleans happened? Thanks again.


Von Says:

Veno: “I don’t know if his substituting training hours for doubles matches would give him the same mental toughening and physical preparation to get him in the confident mindset that he prepared optimally so he steps on court for his first match, knowing he didn’t leave anything to chance. To me he seems very meticulous about that.”

It’s a new mind-set that he’s going to have to learn to adopt for surviva, or else he’ll be history. Practice makes perfect and the mind is no different. Rule of thumb: It takes 21 days to break a bad habit, therefore, once he implements it, the rest is all elementary dear Watson.


Veno Says:

Nice desription on Nadal’s mindset Sherlock :-D
I agree, but Nadal being a very instinctive player, it would surprise me if he will be able to change his mind set in that short a time you describe above….


Von Says:

Dan Martin:

How about taking the initiative here, by writing a compassionte article on Nadal’s knee problems at the present time, e.g., what he can do to still play, but cut down on traini ng and sceduling etc. Now that the speculation of his parents’ divorce impacting his return, has been cleared away, I think witers can look at nadal’s present situation from a different angle.

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Veno: Nadal would probably lose for a while, but once he sets his mind to the new training schedule, etc., I think he’d make a bigger impact when he plays, and we’d see him imrovising as he goes along. The mind can become very creative once set in motion.

Glad to see Watson knew what Sherlock was talking about. LOL.


Von Says:

http://www.tennistalk.com/en/news/20090728/Sampras_admits_he_thought_his_records_would_stand_test_of_time

It’s amazing how some reporters seem to be mind readers. Per Johan Lindehal on Pete’s thoughts:

“And the envious American says he expects the Swiss to continue the run to glory for years to come.”

Lindehal speaks with such authority, and knows for sure that Pete’s ‘envious’. LOL.


Veno Says:

Lol, privilege? I think they demanded it or they wouldn’t have come loooooool.

Lol, Lindehal log…… How pretentious can you be hahaha.

Pete’s not envious. He’s a bit disappointed, as he is well entitled to be(holding such a record for only 7 years!!!) but every related comment I read from Pete has been true from the heart and with a healthy dose of realism. I guess people like to push him in the direction of sour grapes territory.
Man, Pete didn’t get half the respect he deserved when still a player and now they start again.
Pete is legend!!!!!!!!


Veno Says:

and concerning Nadal, how right you may be, but the mind is a peculiar thing with a mind of its own(much like another male bodypart to which I silence myself immediately now) and I wonder how stubborn Nadal’s mind will turn out to be when he has to change his whole routine. You’re not talking subtle adjustments, but a major flip da script here, my destingished madame Holmes!

“Watson out”


Veno Says:

Ah, 1 pm in LA now and the first singles match Ball-Tursunov is commencing.

Von, if you like to know, it’s a 9 hour time deficit with CET, where I live…10 pm here now


Veno Says:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/222553-atp-2009-race-towards-the-world-tour-finals

cool bleacher report of the unofficial Points race…Check it out


Von Says:

No, Pete has never gotten the respect he deserved. I remember when he won his 14th GS in NYC there was very little jubilation from the American TV commentators and the press in general, especially, John McEnroe, who throughout the tournament made fun of Pete’s chances and was absolutely awful that I had to mute my TV at times.

Agassi was more liked than Pete, but for some reason, I never cared much for Andre, his style of play and his persona. Agassi’s game was more about conditioning and he focused on blowing out the lungs of his opponent. I don’t particularly like those players who relish running their opponents ragged; show me some nice tennis, minus the return, return, return, which becomes an eye-turn and a dizzy head for me. LOL.

I’ve always liked big servers, (the serve IMO, is a thing of beauty), hence my love for Sampras and Roddick. Anyway, the commentators always gushed over Andre but seemed very eager to ridicule Sampras and I’ve since grown to dislike John McEnroe (who does the same to Roddick now) and his two side-kicks, Carillo and Robinson.

A 9 hour difference, eh? I thought it was more like six. OK, I suppose you’d better get some shut-eye or else you’ll have a hang-over tomorrow, and what a pity it won’t be due to Sangria. ha ha. BTW, at what age did you become interested in tennis? My interest took root as a young adult, but most people do so in their teens.


Veno Says:

hahaha Von, the 6 hour difference is with the East Coast of the US of A :-D, but if I’m correct LA lies at the Pacific coast of the US of A does it not?

I became interested and started playing at the very mature age of 8 years. We’re talking the year Boris won Wimby as a 17-year old.

I never cared much for Agassi either, but in his later, mature years(post-2003) I started to respect him mucho as a personality….I think Steffi had a lot to do with Andre maturing.

I love big servers if they back it up. That’s why I enjoy more and more watching Andy Roddick play. When he won the USO in ’03 I didn’t care much for his tennis, but it has grown on me , more so because of his great personality and his will and drive to compete and to better himself.

I love Fed’s tennis and am a true fan of his, also as a person, but if you ask me who I would invite to join me drinking, go to a bar or go clubbing…1000% I would pick Andy R, with Marat as back-up designated driver.

And don’t get me started on the self-proclaimed triumvirate that is Johnny-Mac,Carillo and Robinson. They send more shit flying through the air(pun intended) than a abrubtly burst New York City Sewer Pipe.

When I hear Mcenroe praising Fed almost godlike, I feel very uncomfortable(on court post ceremony interview Roland Garros) and when he put Pete on the spot asking him if Fed was GOAT, while Laver was standing next to him….I was hurling my pow wow chicken in circular motions.

And if he was a real man, he would have interviewed Andy after his semi final win over Murray(which he did) and apologized to him and acknowledge that Andy had proven him wrong…But alas, can’t see it happening.


Veno Says:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/226249-logical-flaw-in-the-interpretation-of-rafas-13-7-h2h

interesting point of view on H2H Fed-Rafa, as a statistician I like scientific approaches like this…


Veno Says:

Baghdatis-Isner starting….if only I could get some streaming going….Wow, Tursunov down 1-0…


Kimmi Says:

Someone in another blog was able to translate full Rafa interview which was aired yesterday in Spanish TV. I read it and though it to be very detailed and informative regarding Rafa condition. If interested here below is the link to part 1 and part 2.

PART 1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A55032077

PART 2 http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A55040384


Veno Says:

Hey Kimmi, I read the transcripts and if it’s true what Rafa says boy oh boy did he and uncle Toni blunder!!!!
After winning MC he should have taken rest and skip Rome and Barcelona, even Madrid if his knees were still hurting him too much. The argument he uses that he played with pain for years seems very weird to me. And after claiming the part of the knee where it hurt shifted…man, he lost me.

I have played a lot of sports which pounded my knees(B-ball, Soccer, Field Hockey and Tennis) and because I sprouted at a late age, I always had pain in my knees, problems with the meniscus and I had tendinitis a couple of times and the only remedy is rest rest rest. My physio and doctor said that if I felt pain while increasing pressure on it, I would have to tone it down again until the pain was gone.

Only Rafa can feel what he feels and it may be a totally different injury than I faced, but the more he talks about it the stranger the whole thing sounds to me. Could also be the last remnants of the Spanish Sangria trying to leave my blood stream though.


Kimmi Says:

Veno, I agree. This shows the guy has been suffering for a long time. It makes me feel for him. There is a part where he says he has taken a lot of anti-inflamatories which sometimes can make you not be aware of the actual damage your causing to your joints. I really hope he does not come back quickly, it is best for him to be full recovered before he comes back.

He is also talking about being catious, not to make the same mistake etc I hope he does that as the tennis world needs Rafa to play tennis as long as possible.


Veno Says:

Totally agree Kimmi….I hope when he gets back he’s all fit and he learns from the past….


Kimmi Says:

Veno: “After winning MC he should have taken rest and skip Rome and Barcelona, even Madrid if his knees were still hurting him too much.”

I know, but he has also aknowledge that it was all his fault. He never knew when to say enough until its too late.

“And after claiming the part of the knee where it hurt shifted…man, he lost me”

And we all thought he remove the tapes because he was feeling OK..how wrong we all were ?

“but the more he talks about it the stranger the whole thing sounds to me.”

The whole thing feels crazy due to the timeline we learn he started hurting. His knees actually got the hardest hit during this time. He won MC, then barcelona (why play here ?) Rome and final of Madrid (he did not have to play here either)…again its strange and crazy crazy crazy.


Veno Says:

True Kimmi, I’m not saying he made excuses cause I don’t think Rafa is the man to make excuses, but I think it was naiveté on the part of his team. His physio and uncle Toni should have stepped in and protect him imo…
But that’s all water under the bridge now. I hope he’s running the courts again at full capacity soon! Vamos Rafa!


Von Says:

I’m about to pull my hair out. Safin vs. Gulbis is about to be played and all I can watch is live scores. @#$&()+


Veno Says:

Same here Vonnie…….but…have to work tomorrow so it’s time for some shut-eye for good ol’youngster Veno!!!

I put some good reading links in this thread maman…hope you like it…
Johnnie I. towered the Cypriot statue Baggy…A good win for the 6’9″ American


Veno Says:

MARAT!!!!!!!!!!!!Lost his opening service game!!! Bummer, bad time to go to bed


Kimmi Says:

Sharapova won easy against Petrova, 6-1, 6-2. I do hope she finds her game, if not here then next tournament and next and next. i like her fighting spirit and she is good to watch. She will play venus next if venus wins her second round. Sharapova have a chance as Venus (though my favorite) can sometimes blow hot or cold. interesting WTA tourney in stanford.


Von Says:

Thanks, Veno, sleep well and sweet dreams!


Veno Says:

Hey Kimmi,

I guess I am one of the few who tennis fans who get no enjoyment at all watching Sharapova…

Her looks….not my type and way way exaggerated as she isn’t that esthetically pretty. Just tall, well dressed and marketed by Nike and herself really well.
Her tennis, sorry but I don’t get it…true, she won 3 slams…worthy of my respect. But still….all power, no strategy, no tennis intelligence AT ALL, just plowing away with her great reach. And the shrieking….omg, can anyone bé more annoying?(Azarenka and de Brito rank right up there) And this is what I don’t get…everybody just jumps on the bandwagon saying she’s so great for tennis, she’s an enormous fighter bla bla bla….I don’t get it…Very overrated player in my mind on more than 1 account.


Veno Says:

Von!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wth is Marat doing…..Is he drunk from the Stolachnaya? Darn we can’t see if Marat is starting slow or Ernests is flying out of the starting blocks….


Von Says:

OHHH noooo, Marat got broken again.

Veno, I agree with you on Sharapova all the way. Never liked the shrieka, and probably never will. She’s just a Nike shrieking baby.


Kimmi Says:

Veno, I get your rant but please what is there right now at WTA…williams sister dominance or lets say Serena. I am only asking for more competion and Sharapova can provide that. I agree with part of what you said. I am a woman so I probably don’t look at other women the way you do. But shrieks.. NO not cool at all.

I still think its good for tennis that Sharapova gets back to the level she won a GS. A lot of players in WTA tour nowadays play like her, hit as hard as you can so her game is not too different to a lot others.

If you are talking about good tennis then Justine mauresmo has varieties and where are they ?


Veno Says:

Von!!!!!!!!! amazing how similar our opinions on a broad scope of issues are….almost scary…

You keep climbing the Veno-appreciation ladder hehehe


Veno Says:

Hey Kimmi, I hope and think you didn’t take it personal, not my intention. Just stating my(very subjective) opinion. Even with Sharapova in GS-form, especially due to her shoulder problems restricting her service motion, is at the mercy of the Williams sisters(Serena more than Venus)
If Maria plays Serena the next 8 times, she’ll have trouble winning 1. Has nothing to do with hoping she can pose a challenge…imo she has just a too limited arsenal of weapons that can hurt her. When she was younger, she wasn’t scared or intimidated by Serena but now she’s trying to fight back to the top and she is an established player, it will take a lot to really challenge Serena. The women’s game is very monotenous…hard hitting and we all know who does that best. I think Azarenka and Dementieva are still the 2 players that will pose the biggest threat to Serena the coming years….We’ll see, but of course as an athlete, I wish Maria all the best to get back to her old level or even beyond. It’s obvious the WTA would benefit a lot from broadening at the top. Especially considering the equal play. It’s time the women stepped up!!!!!


Kimmi Says:

No No No, I did not take it personal, sorry if I came too harsh…I just read your 1st line, and I thought I should let you know. Let me continue reading the rest of your post, I like this debate.


Veno Says:

And let’s not get into what happened at SW 19(for anyone who didn’t know SW stands for South-West) with the whole debate how women’s looks predetermined their chances playing centre court(yes, in England it’s spelled cent”re”)and the other show courts….
Although they achieved equal pay, not a whole lot has changed if reserving centre for the hotter players even comes into the equation!!!

Sorry, didn’t mean to, but got into it again……….

GOOSFRABAH!!


Veno Says:

MARATTTTTTTTTT, Why do you torment us so much???


Veno Says:

Marat broke back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kimmi Says:

ARRRRG $@%??& I lost the whole post replying to you. Let me have some Tea then maybe I will type it again…if I can remember.

PS I always wondered what SW means. Thanks to Veno.


Veno Says:

you’re welcome Kimmi…
Vonnie, where art thou maman….biting nails?


Veno Says:

Marat Marat Marat……5-3….Ernests ready to be slaughteredddddddddd


Kimmi Says:

With this kind of energy from Veno, marat does not have a choice but only a win here.


Veno Says:

time for me to sign off…take your time Kimmi, I’ll read your reply tomorrow…

Von, always a pleasure….talk to you later…

Bye all


jane Says:

Go Marat!! : )


Kimmi Says:

Veno: Sharapova before injury must have done something very good to her game to be able to win GS. To win GS take a lot of good play but most important strong will….that’s why very few win and even fewer repeat them. Sharapova has won 3 which show she has at least some of those qualities.

Yes, she has struggled playing Serena especially on GS since her win at SW19 but she has also won them without playing Serena.

“but now she’s trying to fight back to the top and she is an established player, it will take a lot to really challenge Serena.”

I agree, especially if sharapova has trouble with her serve, it will be easy job for Serena everytime they meet as Serena loves to take on a weak serve. It is important for her to work work and work on her serve.

Here is hoping for her to get her groove back.

PS. SW19 scenario of who plays in centre court was very shameful….. unfortunately discrimination still finds its way in this world and to even agree openly in public it’s just uncalled for.


Von Says:

Phew Veno, Safin won! Did he have to put me through so many torturous moments knowing I’m only watching live scores? BTW, I don’t bite my nails, remember, no face touching!

Talk to you later and sleep well.


jane Says:

Looks like Haas will be Safin’s quarterfinal opponent, which means Safin’s run will probably end. Maybe not?

Have any of you heard Dr. Ivo’s rap song? It’s in the attached link; just scroll down. Apparently him and Djoko are going to team up to do a hip-hop duet. Crazy! I don’t care much either way, as long as Djoko brings it on the court!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/blog/ten_experts/post/Ivo-Karlovic-and-Novak-Djokovic-collaborating-on?urn=ten,178915


Marcus Says:

It is easy to predict if Serena will win a major. If she is not going to win the event, she usually loses in the first week. If still alive by the second week, all the other girls start shaking in fear because they know Serena will be ready for them and beat them all to win the title. Serena is so strong willed and has such a powerful game. The only player who can match her mental game is Sharapova. Unfortunately for her, she has that bad shoulder to contend with. Poor Dinara has some fortitude against other players but not against any of the Williams sisters especially in a major. But if some other players could beat the Williams sisters, Dinara may finally get her first major.


grendel Says:

well, Sharapova says her shoulder is 100%. I wonder. This rotator cuff of the shoulder is – I speak with feeling – a mysterious ailment. It has certain disagreeable what you might call lurking qualities. As for Sharapova’s mental toughness, there is a question mark over this: Serena put it there. It’s all very well thrashing obliging pigeons….I do think the Sharp would like to get to grips with Serena, and a contest between the two could be a terrific battle. Or another damp squib.


Marcus Says:

…thrashing obliging pigeons…

What a wonderful and clever phrase! I have never heard that before. May I have the permission to use it?


Von Says:

Dan martin:

Yes, I saw you, but only fleetingly; the camera made a quick sweep and there you were. Had you not stated where you were sitting and wearing, I’d never have been able to see you. Which means, I can’t say ‘hey good lookin’, as I didn’t get to see a close-up view, but only a bird’s eye one. LOL.


Mike Says:

Von, I can attest to Dan Martin being a stud. Not that I swing that way. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Er…how ’bout them Tigers?


Von Says:

Mike: I caught a little glimpse and I saw tall, even though he was sitting, and tall’s all I gotta see. I like ‘em tall and good looking, and this is huge, with a head full of hair. LOL.

Hey, it’s alright to see beauty in everything. I think Liz Taylor was the all-time most beautiful woman and Sophia Loren, mama mia, the most ‘sexy’. Which translates to we can see beauty even though we’re the same sex and it’s all ‘A’OK.


Von Says:

And, where is Veno today, still sleeping? Wake up!! The matches are in progress at LA, but only live scores can be seen at this time.


Dan Martin Says:

I am 6′ tall a mix of Brit, Scot, Scotch-Irish & Austrian (Dad’s side) and German and French Basque on my Mom’s side but I look more Basque than anything. Therefore, the Bounding Basque Jean Borotra is my favorite player of all time (sorry Roger).

This picture of Borotra hitting a smash wearing long white pants and a beret is pretty good –

http://www.lalanternadelpopolo.it/Tennis%20-%20Campioni%20Jean%20Borotra.jpg


jane Says:

Great photo Dan; I love looking at past tennis greats. Their apparel was so striking in contrast to today’s. And those “delicate” wooden racquets – quel chic! LOL…


Von Says:

Dan:

Thanks for sharing the photo of your fave player. Borotra dressed similarly to Rene LaCoste but he appeared to be a bit more athletic than LaCoste.

It seems between your mom and dad, you covered the British Isles, and quite a bit of the other European countries also in ancestry. How about donning a beret instead of a cap, oui Monsieur. Bonjour.


Veno Says:

Hey Von….here I am…..had to work work work :(
Saw Marat got the job done! Knew as soon as he broke Ernests back Gulbis was a goner.
Ah, so you like tall huh? The Dutch are the tallest people in the world(for such a small country we sure have some interesting features hehehe)


Von Says:

Veno, I missed you, and your funny/jovial posts yesterday. I thought you were catching up on your sleep considering you slept so little the previous night. Yes Marat pulled out the win. I watched him and Kunitsyn get creamed in doubles last night by the Bryans. I was also happy to see Fish win despite losing the first set to Guccione and facing match points in the second, but he hung in there nonetheless and got the ‘W’. things are looking up for American tennis since the USTA are giving some of the players a bit of help with coaching. I only hope that it will be a long-term goal of the USTA to be more pro-active with respect to the players who are presently on the tour and not just the younger/junior players.

Yes, I like ‘em tall, handsome and a full head of hair — no shorn heads for me. LOL. Are the Dutch really very tall people? I know I haven’t mentioned this before, but my older sister was married for 4 years to a Dutch guy by the name of Rhine, who was jovial and easy going. You remind me of Rhine a lot with your easy, humorous disposition, and stay that way. He sent me a humongous bunch of tulips this year for my birthday. I wished they had remained married for obvious reasons, (I know I’m being selfish here) but I still get my tulips every year despite it all. LOL.


Von Says:

BTW Veno, ADTHE.net is showing live streaming at 11:00 pm US Eastern time,(do the time conversion and you’ll probably be able to see a couple of matches at LA. Also, ESPN2 is broadcasting some QF matches locally. Is the same happening in the Netherlands where a few of your TV networks might pick up our streams? Perhaps you could check your TV listings to see if you got lucky. Do you feel lucky? LOL.


Von Says:

Veno: ADTHE shows the time conversion to be 5:00 am CET. After the match, I’ll give you permission to sleep all day on Saturday. LOL.


Veno Says:

I’ll certainly try the streaming Von….Thanks!

In general the Dutch are jovial and easy going. Thanks for the kind words and pity for your sister’s divorce…

Yes, the Dutch are the tallest in the world, both men and women.
I’m 6’3″ (with full dark brown curly hair :) just added this because of your no-bald/shaven preference) and I am not considered really tall in the Netherlands(the average of men is 6’1″)


Von Says:

Veno: 6’3″, wow, that’s tall. Glad to know you’re not blond also. My ex-brother-in-law, Rhine, was blond, and I always wanted him to have darker hair since I’m a brunette. LOL. I’m only 5’5″, so my living in the Netherlands would be similar to that of the Lilliputians with the tall Gullivers. LOL.


Veno Says:

hahahaha, my sister is only 5’3″!!!
You would do fine here Von, but you would see plenty of women over 6′ tall.
And plenty of men over 6’5….


Von Says:

Veno: Here’s a free live streamikng where you can watch Gstaad and Umag. You can figure out the time difference.

http://www.rojadirecta.com/

Big John Isner is now playing at LA and I’m able to watch it live on the Tennis Channel. Sorry you can’t do the same.


Veno Says:

Tx Von.

How’s Isner playing?


Von Says:

You’re welcome, Veno! Big John’s not doing very well. He’s got an injured ankle and can’t push off very well when he’s serving. This is throwing him off and he’s also misfiring with his forehand. Isner just saved a match point, but the writing’s on the wall = isner will lose.


Von Says:

Veno: Big John lost 6-4, 6-4. It was a boring match. Next up Querrey v. Sela, which I hope will be more entertaining. So sorry you can’t see the present matches live, but you will be able to do so at 5:00 am CET on ADTHE.net.

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