Nadal, Murray Friday Favorites at US Open; Federer Gets Revenge
by Sean Randall | September 9th, 2011
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Roger Federer even beat the rain. With mist and light drizzle all around the US Open grounds last night, Federer got revenge on JW Tsonga blasting the Frenchman 6-4, 6-3, 6-3 in the quarterfinals.

The match, which was heldover from Wednesday night, was delayed another 90 minutes or so early in the first set, but Federer was hardly troubled by Tsonga who wasn’t on his game. It was the Swiss’s best performance of the summer giving him a win he had to have.

“I played great,” said Federer who had lost to Tsonga twice this summer. “I’m very happy with the way I’m playing and the way I’m moving. I’m enjoying myself out on the court. Being here in New York and having the support of the crowd is an amazing feeling. I’ve been here for many years and all of the hard work seems to be paying off.”

Federer’s hard work is no where near done. Next he’ll face the Serbian juggernaut Novak Djokovic who advanced when countryman Janko Tipsarevic retired with a leg injury.

After the two grueling tiebreak sets, Tisparevic got his leg taped and that seemed to do it as Djokovic went through 7-6(2), 6-7(3), 6-0, 3-0 ret.

“Physically, unfortunately, he couldn’t hold on,” Djokovic said. “You could see that he could not move as well as he did in two and a half hours. I support anything he does because he’s my friend and I know him well, and I know he’s somebody who doesn’t like to retire.”

He may have lost a set but Djokovic is still the guy to beat right now. And I think the extra day between the semifinals and finals helps him more than it does Federer. Of course the two now get a bonus day of rest before their big showdown tomorrow.

As for today’s revised men’s quarterfinal schedule, it’s a good one. Andy Murray and John Isner start up on Ashe at noon followed by Rafael Nadal against Andy Roddick.

First, after spending over three-and-a-half hours yesterday beating Gilles Simon in four sets, Isner now has to comeback at noon and play Murray, who, at his core, is just a better version of Simon. That’s not a good situation at all for Isner who would have had trouble with the Scot even with fresh legs. So I think Murray’s variety and return game should overcome a fatigued Big John relatively comfortably today.

The two played only once before at the Australian Open and Murray won that in straight sets. I expect similar this afternoon. Murray in three.

In the marquee match, Nadal finally looked a little like the old Nadal yesterday thumping Gilles Muller 7-6(1), 6-1, 6-2. The match began Wednesday with an irritable Nadal going down 3-0 early. But upon resumption yesterday Nadal dominated losing just six more games to his fellow lefty.

Meanwhile, Roddick was taking it to David Ferrer out on court 13. Roddick and Ferrer’s Davis Cup rematch was scheduled for Armstrong, but a freak water bubble on the surface forced closure of the court. As he often does, Roddick erupted and bullied Ferrer into playing on a little-used outer court, court 13 where Andy’s power reign continued. Ferrer made some noise late but in the end Roddick was too strong compiling his best win in a year 6-3, 6-4, 3-6, 6-3.

Unfortunately for Roddick, I don’t think he can bully Ferrer’s countryman Nadal today, on the court or off it. That’s not going to happen. But what Roddick can do is serve through Nadal. Though I don’t think that’s going to happen either.

That said, for the 29-year-old Andy this could be he last salvo. The expectations are low so why not go for broke, hit out on the serve and forehand? I think, I hope, he will. And it sounds like that could be the gameplan.

“Well, it’s tough,” Roddick said. “I’m gonna have to play pretty aggressively now, similar to what I did today. He’s one of the greatest ever, so I’m gonna have to, you know, have a repeat at least.”

Nadal has won six of nine and four of his last five against Roddick, and unless he’s misfiring, Rafa’s forehand to Roddick’s backhand should pay dividends all day long. Rafa in four.

Looking ahead to the rest of the weekend, in the face of a player uprising it was a noble concession by the tournament to push the men’s final to Monday. Having to play four straight days of best-of-five would have been a serious disadvantage for someone like Nadal. Still, the schedule is uphill. Nadal will have to win four 5-set matches in five days, with a break Sunday before the Monday final.

For someone like Roddick it’s even tougher. He might have to beat Ferrer, Nadal, Murray and Djokovic if he wants to win another US Open! And similar for Isner.

Fittingly, we are in for a crazy climax to a crazy US Open.

Weather and courts permitting, CBS will have live TV coverage of both men’s quarterfinals live at noon.

Arthur Ashe Stadium 12:00 PM Start Time
John Isner (USA)[28] v. Andy Murray (GBR)[4]
Andy Roddick (USA)[21] v. Rafael Nadal (ESP)[2]

Mixed Doubles – Finals
Melanie Oudin (USA) v. Gisela Dulko (ARG)[8]
Jack Sock (USA) Eduardo Schwank (ARG)[8]


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115 Comments for Nadal, Murray Friday Favorites at US Open; Federer Gets Revenge

Angel Says:

Good Luck Federer, You’ll need it.


Harry Says:

Roddick…didnt “bully” anyone or anything. He and his opponent played a scheduled match they had to. They improvised to accomplished that requirement. Good.


Dory Says:

Predictions? Murray over Isner obviously and Nadal over Roddick. It will be the big 4 in the semis again. And I fear Federer and Nadal in the final but I hope and wish it would be Nole vs Andy final. Nadal doesn’t usually lose Slam Finals but there are exceptions.


Patty Says:

Glad to see everyone through without any mishaps. Today should be some really good matches. 0

Good luck to all!!!


Dory Says:

Why can they never start the match on time on Arthur Ashe?


Dory Says:

Everyone remember last year’s Djoko-Federer semi at USO? I think that was one of THE BEST matches I have ever seen. Djokovic was on fire.


sheila Says:

hoping, hoping, hoping its a federer/murray final with federer prevailing. nice fantasy anyway


skeezerweezer Says:

The closer this match remains, the scarier it is for Murray. If Isner wins the first, we might be in for a long match.


skeezerweezer Says:

very smart playing by Murray so far….he for sure looks like he has his teeth in the tourney….Isner is very tough guy to play against.


Little Wing Says:

Isner’s labouring already, Murray should cruise.


margot Says:

Come on my little red devil. Looking good! Some gr8 shot making here. An amazing first serve percentage helping ….somewhat…


margot Says:

Well it wouldn’t be a Murray match without drama would it…sigh…Isner heading for the third set.
For goodness sake Andy, blooming FOCUS!


stu Says:

Come on Muzz, dropping a set for no reason?


Brando Says:

Cannot see Murray winning at the tourny at this rate. He’ll get through today but I expect that he needs rafa, nole/ federer to drop their level in order to capitalise.


Dory Says:

One thing’s for sure. If Isner wins today (which seems impossible), Nadal’s path to the final becomes easier. (Just saying).


steve-o Says:

Murray played very sharp for the first couple of sets, but he had to have a lapse sometime.

I just don’t see Isner being able to go through the next two sets without being broken, which is probably what he’ll have to do in order to win.


alison hodge Says:

@margot i suppose this match was never going to be easy,looks like our little red devils level has dropped a little.


Brando Says:

There is NO WAY isner shall win. Murray will have to completely switch off in order for isner to win. Murray should still win 4. But he really needs to tighten up a few areas. The game is there for to win. Positve has been his serve today.


alison hodge Says:

margot keep breathing.


jane Says:

Phew, good hold Muzza!


alison hodge Says:

come on muzza break to win now.


alison hodge Says:

oh come on muzza.


stu Says:

Muzz needs to break Isner’s next serve. If it goes to TB I say Isner takes the set…


alison hodge Says:

puuulease no tie breaks,god i hate tie breaks in tennis,they remind me of penalty shoot outs in football.


alison hodge Says:

stu yeah i agree.


alison hodge Says:

oh just as i feared,the dreaded tie break.


jane Says:

Murray is playing a great tiebreaak!


alison hodge Says:

come on muzza 2 more points.


jane Says:

Alright Muzza!!!! :))))


alison hodge Says:

yipeee,thank god,margot hope your ok,keep breathing,you can relax now.


stu Says:

I say the new tennis era is here. Nole and Muzz have made the semifinals of all the majors this year =D


skeezerweezer Says:

Now…the tourney begins.


alison hodge Says:

@stu just wondering has roger and rafa made all four semis in majors in a year,i expect roger has,but what about rafa.


Brando Says:

@ alison: rafa has in 2008. Semi finalist at aus and US open, winner at FO and WImby :-)


stu Says:

alison, rafa did in 2008


stu Says:

whoops sorry, Brando, didn’t see your message!


margot Says:

Well alison and jane er al, it wouldn’t be an Andy Murray match without a compulsory walkabout would it? What would you do with him? Don’t answer that!
Phew!
Hope your Rafa gives you a less fraught time, alison :)and all good luck to Nole, jane.


alison hodge Says:

although i hope, and think rafa will come through against a.rod,i have to say i did not expect a.rod to get as far as he has,i know some people will not agree with me,but think its good to see a.rod making a run again,to think at the begining of the fourtnight,it was fish who was the top american.


alison hodge Says:

@thanks stu and brando just wondering.


tennisfansince76 Says:

any new gray hairs on the heads of Muzza fans?


alison hodge Says:

hi margot yeah hope rafa comes through ok,but if he does ill still be rooting for our little red devil,will be rooting for nole for jane too.


margot Says:

tennisfansince78: am straight off to buy a wig..:)


alison hodge Says:

@tfs76 yeah i think we must be some sort of masocists we must enjoy torture lol.


alison hodge Says:

lol,lol,margot we might need more than one wig.


Wheeler Says:

Rawdick raped right at the start!


Peter D Says:

Twice Roddicks hits a sitter to Nadal’s racket and gets passed! What the …


Skeezerweezer Says:

If only Roddick could Volley correctly….He is makin Rafa look even better


jane Says:

Hair dye girls, forget the wigs! And never paint your nails prior to a slam. You’ll chew it off. ;)

Wow, Rafa is routing Roddick right now.


Peter D Says:

Roddick gets passed again…


Kimmi Says:

PK,just turned on the TV and what happened to roddick serve? has nadal been returning too well?


Kimmi Says:

PK should be “OK”


alison hodge Says:

good solid 1st set by rafa,hope he can keep it up.


Kimmi Says:

roddick looks tired from yesterday maybe!


Kimmi Says:

rafa looks very good in this match..


jane Says:

Combination Kimmi: checking the stats, Roddick is at 50% first serves and Rafa is at 46% first serves, but he is winning all first serve points basically and half his second serve points, whereas Roddick is losing half of his service points overall. Rafa has hit 11 winners to Roddick’s 4 winners. And Roddick has won only 3 of 10 net approaches.

I was wrong when I thought this match would be the closer of the QFs today; actually Isner kept it closer than I thought he would and this has been much easier for Rafa than I thought it’s be.


Skeezerweezer Says:

^ Roddick has no net game, nor approach game, cannot keep pace in rallies, etc. Only thing working is a ace now and then. Since when is the last time Rafa had 8 FH winners in a set? “Why thank you Mr. Roddick for that nice sitter volley you gave me, I’ll think I will return it there,…..no wait…over there….no I think the third option….over there, it will look better on TV.”

Roddick better play a lot more aggresive, or its gonna be a very short match. Right now, he is helping Rafa practice his way into USO form.


Kimmi Says:

thanks jane. roddick needs to do something, maybe if he breaks it might stir him up…but i dont see it coming.

rafa is good yes, but this match needs to be a little closer.


Kimmi Says:

Unless you are rafa fan, this match does not have the fire. it is so one sided…

roddick is probably injured or too tired frm yesterday.


Golf is barely a Sport Says:

Divine intervention is the only chance of a Roddick victory at this point.


Swiss Maestro Says:

commies saying a-rod has injured his left hammy. i hope he doesn’t retire and finishes up the match.


Daniel Says:

Wow, at least the tired excuse will not be used!! Bizarre point, Nadal gave a middle court Nothing ball and he didn’t capitalize. He should broke already To have some dignity. From the moment he start hitting the ball hard he got To 0-40.


jane Says:

If anyone is tired tomorrow, it’ll be Murray more so than Rafa. Clearly he had a much tougher match versus Isner, with four closely contested sets, and even though he was on first, he will probably feel the match more in his muscles. Rafa is looking like losing only a few games at this rate.

Not one groundstroke winner for Roddick. :(


rogerafa Says:

I really feel bad for Murray now. He played a tough match against Isner under the blazing sun and must be a bit miffed that he has only a day to recover for the semi final. Nadal hasn’t broken into a sweat yet in his match versus Roddick. He did a very good job versus Mueller too. He puts more effort in his practice sessions than he has had to put in these matches. It appears as if the scheduling probably will only affect Murray. The change to a Monday final will actually favor the winner of the second semi final now as compared to the super Saturday situation where the second semi final winner has a very short turnaround time.


jane Says:

Congrats to Rafa. Wow, the top four are once AGAIN in the semis. They have been very consistent and remarkable this year: in the Masters and at the slams.

Judging by the semis, it could very well be a Fedal final, although I am hoping for the other two. Either way, whoever comes through, let’s hope for a cracker of a final, and two good semis!


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic-Federer 55/45
Nadal-Murray 75/25


alison hodge Says:

yeah jane agree with you,yipee lets here it for the fab 4,i wonder which final we will get,a nondy,a rondy,a rafole or a fedal.


marrisv Says:

Fab 4 are in…. Time for Fedal for the first time at the USO.


rogerafa Says:

No Fedal please. Rafaole is likely to produce the best final.


mat4 Says:

Hello, everyone!

@Ben,

you give Djoko favorite, and Rafa overwhelming favorite. Why do you think so?

I see Fed as favorite against Djoko, mostly because the Serb doesn’t serve well, and a Rafa Muzza a bit closer, although Rafa could have an advantage here. But both matches are close calls, and 75%-25% looks too much.


simba Says:

I think Nadal will complete the 2nd Slam one year after the first. I call it “Own-the-GOAT” Slam. Nadal has already beaten Federer in the other three Slams Final; this USO will make it complete.


alison hodge Says:

@simba if rafa were to win this years us open,the australian open in january next year as well as an olympic singles gold medal,that would make him the 1st male singles player to complete the golden slam twice,yeah wishfull thinking i know,but still not out of the realms of possibility.


tennisfansince76 Says:

both Murray and Nadal should be good to go tomorrow. neither played a very physical match. roddick simply
didn’t have the tennis legs to have a go at Rafa today. kind of sad to see him run out of gas midway thru the 2nd set. also he served poorly. both Rafa and Arod served poorly today. that made it a ground war and we know who was going o win that. now Rafa has to beat Muzza and pray for a Fed victory else he will get mugged in a dark alley by Djoker on Monday


Brando Says:

Excellent play by nadal. Rafa- Murray: 55-45 in rafa’s favour. Federer- djokovic: 50-50, it depends on rogers serve if he is firing and nole is serving as he is roger can win, but nole is player of the year so who knows- 50/50 seems reasonable
enough I feel.


tennisfansince76 Says:

i am sick of US announcers. they are such kiss asses. they made it sound like Rafa played a match for the ages. the fact was Roddick was not match tough enough to go against a player of Rafa’s caliber today. Rafa basically showed up and played average Rafa ball and that was more than enough today


simba Says:

@allison: If he manages two Golden Slams twice, I would call Nadal the GOAT, to the chagrin of jealous Federer nut cases. Nadal’s achievement has been broad and deep; Federer is deep but not broad; he just padded his records on Wimb and USO. No Single Olympic Gold, no Davis Cup, never found a solution to Nadal’s challenges. If one grade Federer on the figure skating scale, he looks like God. On the tennis scale where you take mental strength, stamina, … into account, he is hardly a GOAT. How can a GOAT manage to lose all the four Slams Final to a non-GOAT?


Ben Pronin Says:

The Serb doesn’t serve well? Who knew?

The Djokovic-Federer match really depends on how well Federer serves. If he serves well, Djokovic will have a tough time returning, and Federer will be confident to take chances on Djokovic’s serve. If he doesn’t serve well, Djokovic will eat him up off the ground, and Federer won’t take as many chances returning serve. But based on current form, I’m giving the slight edge to Djokovic only because of how well he’s held up all year.

Nadal-Murray, 12-4, 2-0 in slam semis this year. Murray is quickly becoming Nadal’s whipping boy.


steve-o Says:

I hope people will now stop yammering on about how Nadal’s “burned fingers” are hampering him, or telling us that we’re the worst meanies in the world for saying his cramping is no big deal.

He is moving incredibly well and hitting with enormous power and speed. To win a set 6-2 while serving at 48% is ridiculous. To break one of the top servers in men’s tennis six times is equally ridiculous. He’s the only one of the semifinalists who has not dropped a set.

Don’t try to sell me on that “he’s vulnerable, he’s injured, he’s the underdog, you have to feel sorry for how hard he has to fight” crap. Federer, Djokovic, and Murray have all had a harder trip to the semis than Nadal has.

Let’s at least acknowledge what our own eyes tell us: he’s not hampered or injured one iota. Just like the French Open when we were told we should be so concerned about his health after his five-setter against Isner.

In the end, he demolished Soderling and Murray and only Federer could take a set off him after that. So much for his “fitness issues.”

He’s going to crush Murray tomorrow and it will take an inspired performance by Federer, or a great performance by Djokovic, to beat him in the final.


simba Says:

@tennisfansince76, Nadal did not need to play his A-game. He saved that to kick the GOAT’s ass on Monday. On 2nd thought, he does not need even his A-game to beat Roger. Just a B-game with relentless attack on Roger’s BH and he will fold like a a cheap tent.


skeezerweezer Says:

How can a GOAT manage to lose all the four Slams Final to a non-GOAT?”

I am sure Rafa would give his left nut to have 16 Slams instead of 10, and lose to Nole 20 times in a row to have 16 slams…give your theory BS a rest already. How can your assuming he will be GOAT get beatdown in consecutive finals this year against what started out as the #3 player in the world? In this game sometimes a player has a hard tome against another. You fav is no exception. That does not, in the history of the sport, define in itself ones career and achievements.

If you want to talk match ups, how about Rafa’s match ups this tourney so far? Woweee.


stromb Says:

This is my first post here.

Well, can’t say what are the probabilities for the semis but I’d like a Fedal final, as there has never been one at the US Open and this could be the last chance to see it.

A Nadal fan from Spain with mixed feelings (looking forward to the last matches… and afraid…)

@simba: stop it, please ;)


mat4 Says:

@Ben:

No, Djoko is not serving well. When you compare his stats with those he had at the AO, or at WB, you can see his % is a bit lower, and the speed of his first serve is lower too. He clearly makes less aces and less winning serves than he did in the spring.

I am also not convinced that Fed is playing better he was in the previous months. He was in grape shape at the AO, full of confidence. I watched him all year long, and he is here, at a high level, but with up and downs.

I don’t agree that Roger’s serve will be the key of the match. This year, Djoko broke Roger at will, wherever they played, except in the fourth set of the FO semi, when it was getting dark. It was a trick of the french organisers, when they noticed, after the Djoko-DelPo match, that Djoko had problems playing in bad light conditions. For me, the key will be Roger’s backhand, especially with the higher rebound, and Novak’s ability to secure his service games.

I believe also that Djoko’s level in his last two matches could be misleading. It happened already a few times this year: Dubai, WB… he played some bad matches until the final rounds, when he was at his top.

The Fed-Tsonga quarter could be misleading too. For those who watched Tsonga recently, it was clear he choked, and choked huge. His game is centered on his serve, and he served awfully.

Maybe you are right about Nadal – Murray. I really don’t see what Muzza can do to win. Although it certainly won’t be an easy win for Rafa.


Wade Says:

Look out Tennis World, Rafa is here to Defend!!!!!


Eric Says:

Boo…I would be in second place in the draw challenge now if I hadn’t accidentally picked Rogerio Dutra Da Silva to the quarterfinals instead of the people I meant to choose! Silly me.

mat4, you are quite right. I was not that impressed with Federer’s win over Tsonga. J-W just played terribly for almost the whole match and given how poorly he was serving and how many errors he made, I was not impressed that Fed didn’t capitalize even more. But I think Roger will have the right game plan to beat Djokovic tomorrow — just like at the FO, when Novak’s form was far more imposing than now. It will be a close match…


Eric Says:

(Also, who the heck is Rogerio Dutra Da Silva?)


Ben Pronin Says:

What is your definition of choke? Should we always expect Tsonga to beat Federer now?

I’m not saying Djokovic is serving great, but he’s not serving bad. Certainly better than last year.

“I believe also that Djoko’s level in his last two matches could be misleading. It happened already a few times this year: Dubai, WB… he played some bad matches until the final rounds, when he was at his top.”

Agree 100%.

Maybe you’re right about the key to the match. I mean, if Federer isn’t serving well, it could be a very easy time for Djokovic. But against Djokovic, it’s not so much the top spin backhand that’s important but the slice. Djokovic has always had difficult against Federer’s slice so I guess the key will be how well Federer is able to mix up his backhand.

Well, either way, I think this back and forth sort of shows why it’s a really close call. But I still give the virtually unbeatable number 1 as the slight favorite.

Roddick, for the most part, pushed Federer plenty of times. Federer, for the most part, pushed Nadal plenty of times. Their respective h2h’s still suck. Same with Murray and Nadal.


Eric Says:

Ben, agree. Tsonga didn’t “choke.” Choking is when you are up and squander the lead (like, say, Roger against Rafa at RG). He just never played well.


PJ Says:

Nice win for Sock/Oudin, taking the Mixed Doubles title. I love the random winners that occur in mixed doubles. It’d be nice if this gives Melanie some confidence.


mat4 Says:

@Eric:

It has probably become a bad habit for me: the more I argue the less conclusions I can made (does it look like a master Yoda’s sentence?). The bottom line is, to quote another master from another movie: “The past is history, the future is mystery…”

I am readying myself for the semi, tomorrow. Cigarettes, coffee, drugs for my heart… If Djoko lose, hope that I will find the strength to write a few words here, if he wins, hope that I will find the decency not to brag to much.


mat4 Says:

@Ben:

You sometimes forget that English is not my first language and although I try to be clear, I cannot be as precise as you are. And dictionaries don’t always help.

Tsonga played bad from the beginning, overwhelmed by what was at stakes. I didn’t say he was to win against Roger all the time, but had he served well, the rest of his game would have followed, and the match could have been a close one. He didn’t look bad because Fed was playing great, no, he just served, then played much under his usual level.


Taylor Says:

I would never bet against Nadal.

Steroids is a heck of a drug.


Kimberly Says:

Melanie Oudin and Jack Sock won the mixed doubles title. They are grand slam champions!

No one wants to join me in making fun of Kerber, who I couldn’t pick out in a police lineup (except for turnonov who says the same thing on tennistweets). Nobody wants to talk about her, in fact, they even put the match on the grandstand, a GS semi final, because essentially, nobody cares. If this chick wins that would be wild.


Ben Pronin Says:

mat4, I just want to point out that after the Wimbledon match, everyone complained that Federer “let” Tsonga dictate play and dominate the way he did.

Last night, you’re right in the sense that Tsonga didn’t play his best. However, that could easily be attributed to Federer not letting him play his best. Federer certainly didn’t play passive tennis and kept up the pressure the whole time. As a result, Tsonga kept trying to recreate the magic but was unable to and at time looked like he was going for too much and making careless errors.

Today, Isner and Roddick both missed various “easy” volleys because they went for too much knowing full well that Murray and Nadal would run down a less-than-stellar volley and hit an outrageous pass.

Federer certainly didn’t display “vintage Federer” as some clueless commentators said last night, but he played the way he needed to in order to keep Tsonga at bay and out of his comfort zone. Will he be able to do that against Djokovic? We’ll see.


Eric Says:

And 3 of the 4 players in the Women’s Doubles final are American! And none of them is named “Williams”! Maybe there is hope for the future after all.


mat4 Says:

@Ben:

I don’t agree that Tsonga didn’t play well because Roger didn’t let him do so.

I have the impression that Roger played better in Montreal, but the difference was that Jo made two to three points by games just serving huge, and hold most of the time. Then, it was easier to play
the return games.

In the rallies he is far from Roger’s level, there is no doubt about it, and without serve, he doesn’t stand much chances. But the serve was the key.

Another question for you: is it just my impression or somebody else noticed it – although Tsonga plays nice drop volleys, he has problems to hit deep, directed volleys.


simba Says:

“I am sure Rafa would give his left nut to have 16 Slams instead of 10, and lose to Nole 20 times in a row to have 16 slams.”

Wow, A Federer cult member pretends to know surely what Nadal wants. Know this: No Federer fans in the right mind would clamor for the DREAM Final showdown at the USO; they are shaking in their boots dreading that Final.


Eric Says:

simba, I think we are all a lot more scared of Djokovic than Rafa at this point. :)


steve-o Says:

Federer perhaps played a touch too thoughtlessly at Wimbledon. He tried to outhit Tsonga with power and it didn’t work.

This time he played a tactical, intelligent match. He used the body serve to keep Tsonga from getting a rhythm on the return. He changed the pace on his groundstrokes to confuse Tsonga. He kept the ball a little deeper, sometimes looped it, went down the middle more, used some good slices. All to deny Tsonga the rhythm he needed.

Tsonga couldn’t generate enough of those flashy, power-hitting rallies to be able to run away with the match like he did at Wimbledon. Meanwhile Federer was consistently returning his serve with aggression, and time ran out for him in the third set.

Tsonga is a wonderful player, but he only has plan A, and if plan A fails, he’s done. Federer can come up with plans B, C, and D; but he’s often much too obstinate about sticking to plan A even when it fails. Not this time, though. He came up with plan B and executed it well.


Andrea Says:

Wow. Watched the Andy nadal match on the plane and could not stop laughing…they say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing ove and over and expecting a different result. Que Andy going to net and getting passed by nadal almost every time. It was painful to watch. And for someone who relies on first serves, even those weren’t working for
Andy.


Kimmi Says:

C’mon muzza. go beat everyone and take the title. He is lost so many times to rafa in big matches.
not tomorrow please!!
hardcourts should suite murray more, especially USO..he just needs to believe he can do it. fingers crossed!


Ben Pronin Says:

Mat4, regarding Tsonga’s volleys, that’s a great observation and one that someone (probably McEnroe) pointed out during Wimbledon. Tsonga isn’t particularly great at volleying, he just hits a really good drop volley because, technique wise, it’s a lot easier than hitting a deep volley.

I gotta agree with Simba, I’m not hoping for a Fedal final whatsoever.


Kimmi Says:

me too Ben. Whatever it is NO FEDAL please!


simba Says:

@skeezerweezer,

If you take a long view for GOAT definition, Connor’s 100+ titles certainly dwarfs Federer’s paltry 60-odd titles. If you talk about Slams, Roger has sixteen but if Rafa beat him at the USO, he will have 11 and enjoys the distinction of beating him in all four Slams Finals, which are the defining moments of a tennis career.


Eric Says:

Yes, but Federer has twice as many slams as Connors.


Humble Rafa Says:

I am sure Rafa would give his left nut to have 16 Slams instead of 10, and lose to Nole 20 times in a row to have 16 slams.”

I would not give my left nut for anything or to anybody. I am told I need 2 nuts to match the GOAT and have twins.


Kimberly Says:

Well it sure is super Saturday four tennis semi finals and FSU football even if it is an easy team


Humble Rafa Says:

I didn’t play very well today. Uncle Toni says no playstation until Monday. So rude.


skeezerweezer Says:

simba,

you types are typical, “IF” is included in your scenarios that haven’t happened yet, and “rafa beats Fed”….”SO…”

That argument keeps collecting dairy dust.

What IS real is FED has the biggest baddest mostest historically respected Trophies on the planet, no one else does. That’s all the matters right now. If you want to start debating who has what…let’s get the party started.


skeezerweezer Says:

simba,

I agree with Eric by the way Nole has come to the party so this GOAT talk is just getting in the way for now. Ride your fav’s wave to history and see how far he can go. He now has a matchup issue like Fed has with Rafa that is real and threatening with Novak. If he doesn’t take care of the things at hand, you’re GOAT inference will get muted very quickly. He still has a career to finish and Fed is going sooner than later.


tennisfansince76 Says:

@Eric come one now. Connors only really played Wimby and the USO consistently. the AO was a funny little tourney on chewed up grass courts. at the end of the year that hardly anyone showed up for except the odd player looking to win a “Grand Slam”. Vilas won there for Christ sakes ( he never came w/in sniffing distance at Wimby). also USO only switched over to hard in 78. he only played the FO later in his career. he boycotted it for several years. he made 4 semis on his worst surface. you can only really use slams as a barometer of player greatness from 85 on (Lendl era). how would you count the WCT championships ( which no longer exist).


madmax Says:

simba Says:
@allison: If he manages two Golden Slams twice, I would call Nadal the GOAT, to the chagrin of jealous Federer nut cases. Nadal’s achievement has been broad and deep; Federer is deep but not broad; he just padded his records on Wimb and USO. No Single Olympic Gold, no Davis Cup, never found a solution to Nadal’s challenges. If one grade Federer on the figure skating scale, he looks like God. On the tennis scale where you take mental strength, stamina, … into account, he is hardly a GOAT. How can a GOAT manage to lose all the four Slams Final to a non-GOAT?
September 9th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

Probably the same way a ‘GOAT’ can lose to a ‘NON-GOAT’ 5 times in finals this year!

How can your Nadal not-goat NEVER have won the 5th Slam? Fed has 5 of them.

How can you bring in davis cup? It’s NOT a single sport! 2 swiss players against 9 spanish players? Give me a break simba! and Federer does have an olympic gold medal, doesn’t matter that it isn’t a singles, he has one. Argue that one.

‘Federer just ‘pads’ his records?’ Wow, that has to be the crassest statement anyone has ever made!

He has the grit and the mentality to dig deep simba. You don’t know the man.

skeezerweezer Says:
How can a GOAT manage to lose all the four Slams Final to a non-GOAT?”

I am sure Rafa would give his left nut to have 16 Slams instead of 10, and lose to Nole 20 times in a row to have 16 slams…give your theory BS a rest already. How can your assuming he will be GOAT get beatdown in consecutive finals this year against what started out as the #3 player in the world? In this game sometimes a player has a hard tome against another. You fav is no exception. That does not, in the history of the sport, define in itself ones career and achievements.

If you want to talk match ups, how about Rafa’s match ups this tourney so far? Woweee.

September 9th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

Skeezer! way to go!

and how can you compare Federer’s records to Connors right now? Yeah, fed has 67 to Connors 109, but Connors was 10 years ahead! He retired when he was 40 years old! Federer is still active and wants to play until he is 35, whose to say he isn’t going to improve on those 67 titles over the next 7 years?

Let’s be real here. I think even fed knows that is a record that can’t be beaten by anyone – 109 – At least Fed got more than 65% of the way there to titles in half the time Connors did! One of the reasons why his records are astounding.


Lou Says:

Guys check this out and you can see for yourself who will win the SF tomorrow:
Federer just has to focus on his serve and returns whereas if Djoko can focus on his first serve, he can really win!

Federer Vs Djokovic- What Does Stats Have To Say?

http://bit.ly/o8spaD


alison hodge Says:

@madmax top of your post at 2.31am just to clarify,those were simbas exact words and not mine,i was just saying the second golden slam was a possibility for rafa.


New Tennis Racquets Says:

If Federer or Djokovic play the top of their game they are unbeatable. The question is, who is going to break first? My guess is Djokovic.


Tw Says:

Why does Nadal always pick his butt and then run his fingers thru his hair? Dude change your underwear or something!
They should make a statue of Nadal picking his butt. Nice!

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