Isner Shocks Federer Giving USA An Improbable 2-0 Lead In Davis Cup
by Sean Randall | February 10th, 2012, 5:22 pm
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Give yourself a pat on the back if you thought it would be the USA and not Switzerland going to sleep with 2-0 lead Friday night after first day play in Davis Cup. Incredibly, That is what has happened. On a stunning day of results in Fribourg, team USA leads heavy home favorites Switzerland 2-0 after Mardy Fish beat Stan Wawrinka in five sets and then in the real shocker John Isner rocked Roger Federer in four.

First, let me start with Fish. Credit to Mardy who’s had more than his (un)fair share of heartache and tough defeats in Davis Cup. But today he came up big despite going down 2-1 in sets, and blowing an initial attempt to serve for the match at 5-4 in the fifth.

And for Wawrinka, what a complete gag. Actually, both guys were choking mightily near the end, but it was Fish who managed to hold it together just enough for a 6-2, 4-6, 4-6, 6-1, 9-7 win in four hours, 26 minutes.

As a guy who plays well on claycourts, Wawrinka cannot let a 2-1 set lead slip away on his home soil. And not against Mardy who inexplicably lost to Alejandro Falla at the Australian Open just few weeks ago.

Most importantly, though, the loss really set the tone for the main event: Federer v. Isner.

With the US up 1-0 the pressure shifted entirely onto the shoulders of Federer, and it freed up the dangerous Isner who knew he could let loose without much consequence. And that’s what happened.

After dropping the opening set Isner got his serve into rhythm and really started going for his groundstrokes. It paid off as the American took the second to even. But, like most watching, I just assumed Federer would get back into gear and take care of business. Except it never happened. Isner wouldn’t let it.

The 6-foot-10 Isner continued to hammer his serve, crush groundstrokes and on the uneven bouncing clay Federer never could regain any form.

Isner took the third in a breaker as Federer missed a sitter pass at 4-4. Then John fought out of a crucial 0-40 hole at 2-2 in the fourth to all but break Federer spirits. And that was it. Isner takes it 4-6, 6-3, 7-6(4), 6-2. What a time first his first career Davis Cup live rubber win. What an effort from Big John.

“It’s one of the greatest wins of my life, no that’s wrong, it’s the greatest win of my life,” said Isner.

“I really owe a lot to Captain Courier,” he said. “He was on me in practice all week, told me to do all the right things, every single practice, hit all the right shots. I’m going to make mistakes, that’s how I play, but the way I played today, that’s how I need to play in all my matches.”

For Federer, who had won his last 15 Davis Cup matches, losing in front of his home crowd – despite the altitude and poor court conditions – had to have been crushing. Isner’s certainly a tricky player – ask Rafael Nadal who was down 2-1 in sets to him at the French last year – but on your home soil and on clay Federer has to win that one.

“It’s a tough loss because we are down 2-0,” Federer said. “We are not down and out so we’ll keep playing tomorrow and hopefully Sunday.”

“Let’s not forget how John Isner plays, there’s not much rallies from the baseline. So considering all of that. I think I actually did play a pretty good match,” Federer said. “Things didn’t go my way and they didn’t go for Sam either, he didn’t have a good match, I agree with that. But I think we’ll pick each up like we did at the Olympics and hopefully player a really good match on Saturday.”

Awaiting tomorrow for the likely Federer-Wawrinka tandem will be a winnable match against Mike Bryan and perhaps Fish, who I think will sub-in for the unproven Ryan Harrison.

Does Captain Courier go for the outright tie win in the doubles by putting in Mardy and/or John, or virtually concede and save his two singles stars for Sunday battle?

If Switzerland can get through Saturday, which I think they will, Federer should beat Fish on Sunday setting up that Isner-Wawrinka gut-check in the fifth. And with how jittery Stan was today while Isner was swinging so freely, that should be a heck of match, if we get there – and that’s a big IF pending how disgruntled Federer is with the playing conditions, etc (lord knows).

Still, a big congrats to Team USA for stealing two in Switzerland and putting up one of the biggest days of tennis America has ever had on a clay court. What a start to the Davis Cup!


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106 Comments for Isner Shocks Federer Giving USA An Improbable 2-0 Lead In Davis Cup

skeezerweezer Says:

Wow. Big John….You beast! Well done you Hammer Master :D

And the Kimberly Kids must be smiling today, the Fish was a Shark today and not a Sardine.


carlo Says:

Great win for Isner!

It does make me wonder about old Federer, however, hm…


mat4 Says:

I was surprised at first, but then it reminded me of Isner’s matches against Djokovic in Belgrade and Nadal at Roland Garros. His serve rebounds very high on clay, and he played 4 tight sets against Djokovic and 5 against Rafa.


jane Says:

mat4, yeah I said that on the other thread: I think Isner took Nole to 5 sets on clay during the 2010 DC tie, and then he got to the finals of the clay tournament that year, but Querrey won.


Kimmi Says:

great win isner. I also wonder about federer carlo


mat4 Says:

@jane:

I found your post afterward. Les beaux esprits se rencontrent, why was I not surprised?

BTW, I posted the ratings in the other thread.


jane Says:

mat4, :)


dari Says:

Ah! Don’t wanna hear about worrying about federer!

I’m just gonna take this as a great win for isner!

Big guy really came through.

USA can go through to the next round in Davis cup and old man fed can concentrate ( or NOT, as it seems these days) on the gazillion tourneys he’s in for the rest of the year.

Vamos, USA and get it together, fed!

Not trying to be harsh, fed will always be my #1


Humble Rafa Says:

Please Arroturds, come out of your woodwork and say that your guy is the favorite for the FO. It’s friday night.


jane Says:

La Monf is injured so Milos is playing Benneteau. Tsonga crushed Vasek, but with Monfils out, maybe we have a better shot at an upset.


Kimberly Says:

They were so excited that fish and Isner won! We r hoping courier plays fish instead of Harrison, as he has virtually now chance against fed and Isner had a real shot against wawa.


jane Says:

Yay Milos. Canada gets one. So it’s 1-1 with France. Doubles, hmmm. Not sure. Maybe it’s a must win for Canada if they want a chance. Not sure Vasek can win in singles, which means it would likely come down to the Tsonga-Milos match to decide it, and probably Tsonga would win that.


Steve 27 Says:

Federer wants to be number 1 again but reality is totally different. The only choice this season is the Olympics because is the best of three sets but no forget the final is like a grand slam or Davis cup the best of five sets. no forget that. But the swiss is in decline, is so obvious. Isner and in clay, wtf?.Federer is time to do something big like Sampras. win a grand slam or where appropriate, Olympic gold and retire, but will come more embarrassing defeats and a little stain his reputation. Be smart Roger: Time to say goodbye.


Anna Says:

Oh Jeez, I’m so proud of these guys. I can’t believe I didn’t give them a snowballs chance in ….. well, you know. Hope they keep it rolling. Why only one Bryan brother?


Wog boy Says:

Jane, positive thinking please, postive thinkig. If it comes to Tsonga-Milos , Milos will win.
His clan doesn’t bread losers, ask Duro !


roy Says:

i like it how federer thinks he played a pretty good match losing in 4 to the worst clay player in this tie. but says stan didn’t have good match, losing 97 in the 5th to fish, the current no.8.
absurd.


Humble Rafa Says:

The Arrogant One’s return game has collapsed, especially against big servers. Tsonga, Twin Towers, etc.

He can’t break. To make things worse, he has become a mental midget on break points on his own serve. Fun times for his worshippers.


Wog boy Says:

I just finished watching Federer-Isner match, I recorded it, credit to Isner for staying coolheaded when it mattered. When it comes to Federer, he definitely lost speed and doesn’t position himself and doesn’t give himself enough time for the shots. I noticed that against Nadal at AO and today, and this was clay ! And yes, he just drops the level of his game for unknown reason if the match goes longer. If we take Abu Dhabi, Doha, AO and this one the only conclusion is that he is in decline, big one. I don’t see him winning anything bigger then 250-500 tournaments this year with this game.
I am happy for Jim Courier, it looks like he is doing excellent job with this boys. Hope he will win this one. It is funny to watch him when he stands next to Isner :-)


Steve 27 Says:

Is time to say goodbye, adieu Maestro.


Michael Says:

It is really a shocking defeat for Roger.

But still Switzerland is in with a chance if they can win the doubles.


Steve 27 Says:

Pray, Michael, pray.


Michael Says:

Wog Boy,

True. Age has caught up with Roger and he is a bit slow in reacting to shots. The will to perform is right there, but his body is not allowing it. Afterall Roger too is mere mortal an he cannot fight against Nature. But still I believe Roger can win a major or two if he is lucky with the draw. But that might be a tall order when the likes of Djokovic, Nadal and Murray are lurking around.


carlo Says:

Watched all I could of the Federer-Isner match, sad to say, Kimmi, have to agree with Wog boy’s assessment. Maybe it’s a dip in the decline and better days are ahead this spring-summer. But that wasn’t good from Federer.


Wog boy Says:

Muchael, as much as I am happy when Nole beats Federer (even if Nole doesn’t win tournament) I am not happy to see such a great champion playing the way he was playing, particulary fourth set, today. It did look like his spirit was broken (same look was in fourth with Nadal at AO). After 2:2 in fourth set Federer wasn’t there any more and last game, regadless of three good returns by Isner, Federer served just to finish and get the hell out of the court. He didn’t look happy, not at all. IW and Miami are just around corner, we
will see, but something doesn’t look good.


Wog boy Says:

Actually Federer playa Rotterdam, starts monday …..


Wog boy Says:

“plays” not “playa”


Michael Says:

Wog Boy,

Is the killer instinct of Roger mummified ??? Is he not good anymore ?? As you rightly say, of late we are never witness to the old Roger who never easily gives up any match. Where is that Federer who won against Berdych two sets down ? dead ?? Now he gives up match just like that. Whether he didn’t take up this Davis cup match seriously enough ? But that is too harsh a judgement to be passed against Roger. Might be Isner played very well and Roger was not upto the task. But this is a warning bell to Roger for the coming season and I hope he turns this around.


Polo Says:

Michael, not even mummified because there was no trace of it at all in yesterday’s match with Isner. Completely gone as if it was never there. I thought of Djokovic and Nadal at their AO match. The intensity and determination of those two to fight and never give up kept building up to the end.


Nicole Says:

Roger doesn’t want to play Davis Cup…it’s just added stress for him during the season. He plays tennis to win the majors, nothing else. More precisely, he wants to play nadal, djokovic, or murray. Players like wawrinka, fish, or monfils, bore him…they are not on his level.

Guys like Isner or Karlovic are always dangerous due to their serving ability and they don’t give the opponent any rhythm.

I like http://www.fit-2-hit.com


Everyone is entitled to my opinion Says:

What a GOAT!!!


Everyone is entitled to my opinion Says:

Nicole Says:

“Roger doesn’t want to play Davis Cup…it’s just added stress for him during the season. He plays tennis to win the majors, nothing else. More precisely, he wants to play nadal, djokovic, or murray. Players like wawrinka, fish, or monfils, bore him…they are not on his level.”

I think that’s an insult to the liAre kes of Fish, Monfils and Wawa. In any case, Federer doesn’t even make the finals of majors anymore so he is failing on all fronts. Are you absolutely sure Federer WANTS to play Nadal?


Everyone is entitled to my opinion Says:

Federer wasnting to play Nadal is like turkeys voting for Christmas.


Polo Says:

Nicole, if Roger keeps playing like he has been recently, he looks more like he is at the “level” of Wawrinka, Fish and Monfils (I notice that you did not include Isner)rather than the “level” of Djokovic and Nadal.


jamie Says:

According to the psychic, Federer is done winning slams.

He will retire with 16 slams.


dari Says:

Suisse are coming up really lame this weekend. USA doing all the right things at the right time.

Talks of the Suisse sweep- looks like just the opposite!


skeezerweezer Says:

All this talk about Fed, how about some credit to Isner? Its obvious his game is a threat to anyone, almost taking Rafa out on his unbeatable turf tundra of Roland Garros last year in the first round!. He is currently sitting on top his highest ranking ever (17) and has been speculated to crack the top 10 this year. Be aware, look what DC did to Novak. Just sayin….again, great win for the big man.


skeezerweezer Says:

Turf tundra? Errr…wrong surface how about Red Dirt?


Polo Says:

I think this is really quite embarrassing.


jamie Says:

Losing to Jizzner at home on clay! How pathetic.

Time for Olderer to retire.

You are done as a slam winner, Olderer!


Polo Says:

Come on USA. Put them out of their misery already. Time to shoot the horses.


Humble Rafa Says:

Jamie,

I wouldn’t call him Jizz-ner. It is a bad word (google it..lol)


dari Says:

Way to go USA!
Winning against all odds, and in three no less!


skeezerweezer Says:

Congrats to USA!


Sean Randall Says:

USA!

What a head scratcher. 3-0 the other way!


jamie Says:

Trashed by USA at home on clay..

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


alison hodge Says:

sorry folks of topic for a minute but just read on teletext that robin soderling will not be returning to tennis in february,as his recovery is still taking longer than expected.


alison hodge Says:

jamie what is it that you have got against roger and rafa BTW?These two great players happen to have 26 grand slams between them in case you had not noticed,sure nole is the worlds best player ATM and i know your a big fan ,but theres no need discedit rafa and roger,just to get your pont across,theres room in tennis for all of them,and for that we are so lucky,we should just enjoy them while they are still here,after all it will be a sad day when they are gone,come lifes too short for goodness sake,lighten up.


Steve 27 Says:

Adieu, swiss Maestro, the Davis Cup is not for you. He has a chance to win the Olympics but nothing more. Sampras retired at age of 31 winning Us Open. Is not that case for Federer, he has not chance anymore in slams, is a fact. “If” said Fderer fans in every lost, is laughable. But comings more defeats with minor players in the next tournaments, is not surprise anymore. Be smart, Roger copy Sampras style and retired winning the gold medal in London, his ultimate goal has to be winning in the Cathedral.


alison hodge Says:

congats to isner on such a fabulous win,i did not see the match but from what i can gather it sounded like a well deserved victory,and congrats to the usa too.


alison hodge Says:

steve 27 im a rafa fan but love roger and i think hes amazing,and i just somehow cannot compehend the world of tennis without him,it will be a very sad day when he does callit a day,as long as he still enjoys the game and still cares he should still carry on,the question is does he hmm,it doesnt look like it sometimes?


jane Says:

Congrats to the USA. I did not expect them to sweep the Swiss on clay, that’s for sure. I see they went with Fish in doubles; this may turn out to be inspiring for Mardy going forward, after a disappointing AO. i guess Roddick is injured still, although I think he’s also opted out of DC after so many years as a stalwart for the team.


jane Says:

“The crowd got angry when Bryan hit both Federer and Wawrinka with volleys at close range later in the match.” And… “Bryan angered the home fans in the next game when he made Federer yelp with pain with a forehand volley that struck his leg.”

Did anyone see that? eek sounds painful. I assume Fed shook his hand nevertheless: couldn’t help but think of the Almagro/Berd incident when I read it.


rave Says:

Roger’s fans are patient. We know the maestro is working on his game. Yes, he is losing more and more and yes, he is in decline. But is that not inevitable in Tennis. You have to admire him for what he has accomplished and how hard he is working to stay in the top three. IS that so bad? IS he not human? He is not invincible. yes, Fed fans wants him to be invincible and on top forever. WE are sad when he loses, but we know what reality is, and we will continue to cheer for him. We are not fair weathered fans and we do not need to put other players down. Roger is great and will always be great, on and off the court. If anyone has a problem with that ifeel sorry for you. You should retire.


alison hodge Says:

rave yeah great post to still be competitive and in the top 3,at the ripe old age of 30 is a fantastic achievement in itself,i very much doubt that rafa and nole fans will be saying that about there favourites when they reach 30,right jamie?


tennisfansince76 Says:

i don’t even know why Fed is playing DC. if i was a top player i wouldn’t play DC at all over the age of 26 or 27. at whatever age scheduling really starts to matter DC would have to go.


leo vixen Says:

Cannot comment on Federer’s performance in Davis Cup as I did not see it, but I think it is unfair that everyone is calling for him to retire, AGAIN! He is in the top 3 and still competing quite well. Most other players would kill to be there. I guess Roger has set the bar very high for himself and his fans. I guess it’s either No.1 and GS galore or NOTHING. But is that really fair to him? He can still play sublime tennis when he is on his game, so just let him enjoy what he can and what he has left and appreciate him for what he has accomplished.


Green900 Says:

In case ur forgetting this is one loss, and on clay and he would be playing on this surface after a long time. So no need to go mad about this loss. Also Jamie for gods sake phsycics aren’t real. So stop with this nonsense ur saying.


Steve 27 Says:

Alison, I like Federer style of play, he is the best if we talk about “tennis skills”, I don’t deny he is the master in precision, elegance and contundence, but different issues changes everything, more players knows how to play with him, in his generation the competence was not so good, Federer became a father, 30s is the final stage to a tennis player and motivation changes in life. But I considerer to be a great tennis champion beside of that, you must have a champion’s mind, a determination to overcome obstacles, energy to achieve all that you propose, in short you have to give up something (capacity for suffering) to achieve something great. Roger, Rafa and Novak have it, Nalbandian and Safin had it so talented but undisciplined, and vice versa Hewitt and Roddick hard workers but without that innate gift, then no, that they lacked something to pass the barrier that separates you from a great player to be a candidate to be listed as one of the best ever.


dari Says:

Ps big Congrats to mike bryan for coming through as usual, this time without the other bro :)


jane Says:

tennisfansince76, maybe it’s because it’s one trophy that Fed hasn’t won? And with the other top four, Nole, Rafa and Muzza, all saying they are out of DC competition probably for the year so they can focus on slams and the Olympics, in a way this was an opportune time for Fed to go for the DC trophy with his teammates. At least it makes sense to me in this regard.


Steve 27 Says:

And yes, sorry for the word retire, but is a fact when you are in decline, and motivation is not the same anymore, but I prefer retiring winning something big (a la Sampras)to continue losing games against good players but will never have your level. If he just enjoys playing for fun and do not mind losing to follow the same players in the final stages of the majors and the fact that I can get titles, below, who are we to decide for someone else, but it would be better to finish the race most successful in Open era, winning an unprecedented and special to him, his followers and all tennis lovers. That I think, of course, and any opinion we may disagree, Greetings.


Kimberly Says:

COngrats to Fish and Bryan for completing the win. Smart of Courier to play Fish as had they lost the match, most likely it would have come down to Isner Wawa which was a winnable match for Isner. To play Harrison would have been to concede the point. Fish is a great doubles player, was playing a lot until he starting getting really good in singles and then he put it in the backseat.


margot Says:

kimberly: is Colin just bursting with smiles? :)


Kimberly Says:

skeezerweezer Says:
Wow. Big John….You beast! Well done you Hammer Master :D

And the Kimberly Kids must be smiling today, the Fish was a Shark today and not a Sardine.

_____________________

love this comment. Colino6 said he was a shark again today! He was so happy. However, I am hoping these wins don’t lead to false hope and further bad picking of Fish too deep in the clay court season.


Kimberly Says:

margot—in short yes. He has made several phone calls to the tennis teachers to inform them of the US inprobable good fortune.


kriket Says:

As always, Roger thinks he “played well”. Did he ever say that he thought he didn’t play well?


jane Says:

Canada decided to put Raonic in for doubles, presumably because of his serve. Not sure if that was a good idea or not. They’re on serve 4 all in the first.


mat4 Says:

jane,

I was confused. On the tennis.com live scoring page, there is an entry for Llodra, Benneteau / Nestor, Pospisil, and the results is 3/3 in the first set for an hour already. When I saw your post, I checked and there is another one, with Nestor, Raonic.

BTW, read in a Canadian blog in French that Monfils didn’t want to play against Raonic, and that there are no injuries whatsoever. Allegedly, he feels he would be humiliated if he loses. Here is the original:

“On dit en coulisse que Monfils n’avait pas plus de douleur au genou que vous en avez dans les doigts. Il aurait donné sa place à Benneteau pour ne pas essuyer une défaite contre Raonic. Perdre contre ce jeune lanceur de missiles l’humilie, parait-il. Alors, c’est Benneteau qui a écopé du «joueur de baseball» à sa place.”


RZ Says:

I usually hate the use of the words “shock” and “stun” in headlines, but this is one case where it actually applies!


jane Says:

That’s weird mat4. Monfils lost to whom at the AO? Why would he be humiliated losing to Raonic? He’s a top 30 guy. Anyhow, Canadian doubles just lost the second tiebreaker in a row, so it’s looking very unlikely we’ll win the doubles rubber now, and likely France will win the tie. Of course that was always the likelihood. But with Raonic’s win it did give some hope if they could’ve won the doubles. France are always a strong team.


Mila Says:

Raonic & Nestorovic just lost another tiebreaker and the current score is:

Raonic/Nestor – Llodra/Beneteau 6-7(1), 6-7(2), 1-1


jane Says:

Yes, and now they’ve been broken in the third, too, Mila, so it doesn’t look good. Had they some way been able to play better in those breakers… Oh well, at least they are playing a close match. It’s not a blowout or anything.


mat4 Says:

jane:

You’d never know with Monfils. But, yes, it is weird.


Polo Says:

I just came across this article. Did Federer really say this? :

Later, speaking in French to Swiss media, Federer appeared less gracious. He claimed not to be too disappointed while pointing a finger at Wawrinka, who slumped back in his chair looking every inch the junior partner in the relationship.

“I played well enough in doubles, but Stanislas not so much,” Federer said, adding that Wawrinka “didn’t have his best match in singles. It’s a shame, because of that defeat we weren’t able to put the U.S under pressure.”


Dave Says:

Polo, it could have been that Federer was misquoted or mistranslated. Otherwise the Swiss media would have been all over it.

I checked the Swiss-German newspaper Tages Anzeiger. Nothing mentioned about Federer pointing a finger at Wawrinka.
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/sport/tennis/Ich-sehe-keine-Krise/story/11762980

Even the major Swiss-French newspaper Geneva Tribune did not mention it. The Swiss French newspaper went further than the Swiss German newspaper in providing excuses for the Swiss defeat, such as “Roger Federer had warned early in the week that false rebounds short of Fribourg could prevent an offensive game to practice and take the ball earlier.”
http://www.tdg.ch/sports/actu/Cauchemar-a-Fribourg-la-Suisse-prend-la-porte/story/10914942

Tages Anzeiger did say that Federer apologized to the fans, but was unemotional, calm and saw no crisis.

Really it’s only the white elephant called Davis Cup. It was probably an orchestrated defeat: Federer and Wawrinka are possibly happier losing today and focusing on their tourneys and the Olympics than wasting their energies on five setters on Sunday. Even if they won it they would have to waste their enegies on another tie in a few months and risk a potential loss probably to France in the quarterfinals.. if not lose to Spain in the semifinals or Serbia/Argentina in the finals — all with better clay court players than USA. If Wawrinka cannot hold his ground on his favourite surface (clay) even against the USA, he’s not going to do it against France or Spain. It was never realistic for Federer and Wawrinka to over-extend themselves playing four rounds of the relatively insignfifcant Davis Cup in an Olympic year.


Kimberly Says:

Nice to throw wawrinka under the bus! Brutal! Polo I saw that article earlier but was hesitant to bring it up as a known rafa lover here. I think he said this to the Swiss media not in English so perhaps something was mistaken in translation. Otherwise thatts just bad even if it is kind of true


jane Says:

“It was probably an orchestrated defeat” I can’t see it. Why would Fed throw his matches? This is an opportune time, as mentioned earlier, for Fed to add this trophy to his cabinet and make his winnings more ‘complete’. Not that I am saying they are not already very thorough, to say the least, but a number of the modern “greats” have a DC trophy or two – Mac, Sampras, Rafa, etc. – whereas Fed doesn’t.

Don’t know if the Wawrinka comment is true, but someone posted this earlier:

roy Says:
i like it how federer thinks he played a pretty good match losing in 4 to the worst clay player in this tie. but says stan didn’t have good match, losing 97 in the 5th to fish, the current no.8.
absurd.

February 10th, 2012 at 10:43 pm


dari Says:

I would be really pissed if I were stan!
These are times when the flat truth should not be spoken. Geeze Roger, i know he has the bite in his words against his opponents, but for his own teammate?! :/


Twocents Says:

Fed needs to take very very good care of his body: that big fat Nike contract lasts 10 years starting 2008.

“Shock”, “Stun”, “upset” etc is way too complimentary to the 30 year old naughty boy, yet at bit insulting to our USA quality warriors, imho. Payback may be more acurate.

Way to go, Big John, Fish, and Mike!

Good try, Fed and Stan!


Michael Says:

It is sad to note that most of the Tennis fans and commentators are trying to write off Roger. It is true that age has caught up with him, but still he is playing some good Tennis and I am not sure if it is enough to win a major. His Resume also has a hole that he still not won a Davis Cup for his Country, but I feel time is up and Federer might not be able to achieve that for his country.


Michael Says:

Polo,

You are right. That intensity of Federer is gone. I would love to see that back. But I know that he has a barrier in the form of age.


skeezerweezer Says:

Twocents,

You ‘re still around? Awesome ;)

Wawa has not been playing well at all this past year gang, you all know that. So is his play really a surprise? I respect Daves posts as it usually comes with good backup research. However, why throw a compatrait under the bus? And since when paying DC is an orchistrated defeat? Don’t get all that. If they thought it was a futile effort, why play? Fact is, USA won, they lost, move on. As a Fed fan, getting tired of how well he thinks he played in defeat, It’s getting as old as Rafa’s arse pickin. Hey Fed, just win baby and let all else just fall where it should. Talk is cheap, your 16 GS titles are gold. Talk about that and more about how you’ll get your next one and leave the excuses on the pavement where they belong,


skeezerweezer Says:

Ok,

So its trash Fed day, including yours truly, but this was a jewel of a poll during the AO this year….read it and weep Fans of “others”

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/fancentre/poll/day10.html

:-)


madmax Says:

roy Says:
i like it how federer thinks he played a pretty good match losing in 4 to the worst clay player in this tie. but says stan didn’t have good match, losing 97 in the 5th to fish, the current no.8.
absurd.

February 10th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

Humble Rafa Says:
The Arrogant One’s return game has collapsed, especially against big servers. Tsonga, Twin Towers, etc.

He can’t break. To make things worse, he has become a mental midget on break points on his own serve. Fun times for his worshippers.

February 10th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

Wog boy Says:
I just finished watching Federer-Isner match, I recorded it, credit to Isner for staying coolheaded when it mattered. When it comes to Federer, he definitely lost speed and doesn’t position himself and doesn’t give himself enough time for the shots. I noticed that against Nadal at AO and today, and this was clay ! And yes, he just drops the level of his game for unknown reason if the match goes longer. If we take Abu Dhabi, Doha, AO and this one the only conclusion is that he is in decline, big one. I don’t see him winning anything bigger then 250-500 tournaments this year with this game.
I am happy for Jim Courier, it looks like he is doing excellent job with this boys. Hope he will win this one. It is funny to watch him when he stands next to Isner :-)

February 10th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

Steve 27 Says:
Is time to say goodbye, adieu Maestro.

February 10th, 2012 at 11:20 pm

Got to congratulate USA, but those of you who continually keep saying fed should go, have a bit of respect please. Remember Federer got very deep at the AO, Isner was out early on. Talk about saving energy levels please. Federer took the choice to play davis cup, with the pressure on two of the best swiss players, who both played an excellent AO.

Isner was well prepared and it showed.

I wouldn’t put too much store on Federer retiring after this, despite the endless cries for go fed go (in the negative). I wish we could stop this please.

Thank god for Alison Hodge! Skeezer! and Dari!


Polo Says:

Dave @2/11 9:44: you are probably right that he was mistranslated or misquoted. I forgot to take into consideration that the interview was in French and the press, as usual, tried to beef up the interview. Lots of things said or done were probably taken out of context.


mat4 Says:

I read excerpts of the interview in French.

“Moi j’ai fait un assez bon double, mais Stanislas pas tant”

“Stanislas Wawrinka n’a pas fait son meilleur match en simple vendredi. C’est dommage, à cause de cette défaite, on n’a pas pu mettre les Etats-Unis sous pression. Si on avait réussi à aller jusqu’au dimanche, moi, j’étais le favori face à Fish et, après, dans un cinquième match on ne sait jamais ce qui peut se passer.”

That’s what I found yesterday. You can use Googletranslate. Nothing tragic.

I think that, once again, to quote a known writer, it is “Much Ado About Nothing”.


mat4 Says:

Finally, I don’t understand that philosophy of the “half-empty glass”. I witnessed the decline of many great champions, and I can assure you that Federer is far from that.

This man still has at least 5 slams in himself, and just one man in his path. Things can change overnight.


margot Says:

skeeze: if Fed really did bad mouth Stan, then that’s precisely the reason I wouldn’t want him to come to tea. Why, he’d rubbish my cakes for a start…;)
Two cents: Hi, nice 2 c u. Greetings from Arctic Britain to sizzling Texas.


Polo Says:

Federer remains a solid top four player which makes his a good contender for another major title. Unfortunately, Nadal and Djokovic stand in his way. Both are much younger are very solid physically and mentally. While other players like Sampras have won in their 30′s, they have beaten opponents that are not considered impossible for them to beat. Sampras has beaten Agassi many times before so his final major triumph was not totally unexpected. Sampras is, at the very least, in the same caliber as Federer, Nadal and Djokovic. Agassi is not. It will be very difficult for Federer to break through Nadal and Djokovic.


mat4 Says:

I think that Federer remains an _exceptional_ top three player, the other two, like him, having made some records of their own (the names of all three of them are omnipresent on the atp records wiki page).


Dave Says:

Jane, if Rod Laver — who came from an era where winning five Davis Cup titles (including four in a row) actually meant something — can rank Federer so highly (while almost every other player on that list won at least once) and not mention ‘Davis Cup’ even once (see link)… it is likely that every other great tennis player who really matters understands that (a) the white elephant known as the Davis Cup is no longer considered essential or necessary in a great player’s resume and (b) in the modern game, it’s not viable for a team to win Davis Cup without at least three good players and some luck (e.g., a good draw, etc.).
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/xzx-australian-open/gallery-fn77kxzt-1226250654969?page=1

No one remembers or nitpicks Jimmy Connors for his Davis Cup record — he won the 1981 DC despite playing only 2 matches in one tie all year (quarterfinal tie) and he lost in the 1984 final despite playing all 4 ties that year (for a grand total of only 7 ties in his entire career because he often played big-money exhibitions while his USA teammates played Davis Cup). No one remembers Manuel Santana for his Davis Cup record of playing 120 matches in nearly 50 ties, yet twice losing one singles and one doubles in both the 1965 and 1967 Davis Cup finals — the only two finals he ever played in. Really, who will bother to remember Federer’s Davis Cup record except desperate nitpickers?

Since 2005, Federer has not been desperate to add this to a trophy cabinet that already has at least 22 major trophies (16 grand slam and 6 year end championships) and a resume that looks like this in this link below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_World_Tour_records

The Davis Cup is not a priority. Federer knows very well that all the modern greats who won Davis Cup had a deep team and/or luck on their side. Of the great players, only Borg in 1975 and Becker in 1988/1989 won Davis Cup with weak teams, but Sweden in 1975 and Germany in 1988/1989 were lucky to have easy draws those years (though in the final Germany faced Sweden in 1988 and 89, in 1988 Carl Uwe Steeb stepped up to beat Mats Wilander in Sweden and in 1989 strecthed Wilander to a five setter in the first rubber).

The major reason Fed showed up for the first round tie was probably for Severin Luethi and Wawrinka in a tie held in Switzerland, not to win the DC this year. Federer knows that if Wawrinka can’t stand up to the USA on his favorite surface clay, there will be more frustration ahead against France in QF, Spain in SF and Serbia/Argentina in Finals to win this year’s DC. In an Olympic year and at age 30, Federer can’t afford to keep playing ties with him having to win all three best-of-5-set matches. Federer knows his priorities (No. 1 ranking, grand slams, year ending championship, Olympics) and cannot risk getting stuck in consecutive days of best of five setters. If Federer loses Rotterdam ATP 500 on indoor hardcourts, his poor decision to break from his recent history of not playing Davis Cup first round is to blame.


Dave Says:

24 Heures is the largest Swiss-French newspaper. Like the Geneva Tribune, it published nothing about the supposed comments of Federer. This indicates the issue is much ado about nothing as mat4 said. The same newspaper did publish an article about a surprise doping test on Nadal, however.
http://www.24heures.ch/sports/

In other news Wawrinka and his wife are back together again, announced on Friday… hmmm, was Stan a little distracted last week?
http://www.24heures.ch/sports/Ilham-et-Stan-a-nouveau-ensemble/story/24644352

Swiss newspaper reiterated that without the two-time French Open champion Courier, Isner would never have beaten Federer.
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/sport/tennis/Ich-werde-gelobt-ohne-einen-Ball-zu-spielen/story/17059068

Federer stayed to the bitter end of a 0-5 loss to thank the fans.
http://f.blick.ch/img/incoming/crop1764576/2282784379-chorizontal-w644/0000000004311519.jpg


jane Says:

dave, all I was suggesting was that Fed might *want* at DC trophy. Of course his records speak for themselves! It seems unlike him to orchestrate a defeat; it suggests dishonesty. And I don’t think he’d bother playing if he wasn’t going to try for the win. That is just my opinion.

mat4, yes. There is no need for the “Fed should retire” talk. It’s silly. Who would retire as number 3 in the world. He should play on as long as he enjoys it and wants to. He’s a dangerous player. Nole said recently in a CNN interview, that he is still a contender. No question.


skeezerweezer Says:

@jane

I read your earlier post on that and I agree. It was a great strategic opportunity for his country to take a shot at a DC title. Just didn’t happen.


jane Says:

Yep skeeze – win some, lose some – move on. That’s it. It just didn’t happen for Fed & the Swiss team this time. The USA team was pumped, they won, and it happens. It’s not that big of a deal; yes, it’s an upset, but there is still lots to play for – the season is tres early.


skeezerweezer Says:

Anyone seen this gal…Angelique Kerber?


kriket Says:

Yeah, Dave, playing to lose, and for your country – not for yourself, for once. That’s a textbook description of a “great player”- GOAT no less.

Wtf.are you talking about? As if he lost intentionaly is some great sportmanship strategy?

If it’s true it’s a disgrace, that’s what it is. He didn’t have to play if he did not intend to win.

However you try to spin it, it’s a disgrace.


alison hodge Says:

rep madmax@feb 12th 4.12am,thanks madmax,i agree roger still loves the game,so why should he retire,its only february anyway,the seasons young yet,he lost to an inspired isner,who can trouble any top player on his day,so no big deal, im sure he will bounce back soon enough,and im sure he will still have another terrific year,dc has been and gone ancient history now,move on to rotterdam end of.


Kimmi Says:

skeezer – yes i have seen her play. she got to semi last year USO. I thought she benefited with the easy draw, lot of seeds in her draw was beaten early.

This is a surprise to see her winning in paris. beating sharapova on the way. congratulation to her.

time will tell if she is a real deal though.


alison hodge Says:

completely ridiculous fed loves to compete and he loves to win,if he really had no interest in winning or loosing then he would not have played in the dc,but thats not roger,not his style and certainly not in his nature,people should give him more credit than that,he would not be so disrespectfull to his fans,he has more loyalty than that.


Twocents Says:

Skeezer, margot,

Wave and smile! Not easy to get rid of a stubborn Texan :-)).

Skeezer, I prefer “IplayedwelleventhoughIlost” to a**picking, cuz the minute Fed stop thinking like that he’ll hang his racquet.

margot, belated congrats on Murray’s superb AO performance. He shall have a great summer.

Such a world-wide-shock/pity/celebration/redemption/hate over an 30 year-over-the-hill-not-so-gracious-mental-midget’s loss. OK, USA must be in decline — in tennis at least. I got it.

Please do stick around longer, Fed. What do they do when you’re really gone?

Never tired of watching Fed’s tennis, win or lose, whining or not.


Ajet Says:

Federer and Nadal are the last one who would want to lose in matches, PERIOD. So no question of federer tanking against Isner AT HOME on CLAY!

And congrats Isner! The man is a big server but it’s clear now that clay is his favourite surface! I would be happiest to see him facing nadal at RG 12! ;)

And those who think federer must retire, I’d say federer’s still in top-4 and I do believe that he still can beat just about anyone anywhere except nadal, to whom of course he’d lose EVERYTIME and EVERYWHERE! So, no, Fed still has a year or two to try for one last slam(if not win), he’s still very very competitive. So he can play a bit longer, though even I feel that federer sadly is done winning slams. But federer has earned every right to decide when to call it quits and thus, I won’t waste my time contemplating when he should retire.

BTW hi alison, nice to see you defending roger! :)


Veka Says:

I’m not a big fan of Federer but it will be a huge loss for tennis one day when he retires.


alison hodge Says:

hi ajet i always will,rogers amazing,i love rafa but nobody plays tennis the way roger does,with the same effortless class,style and grace,and i agree we should just enjoy watching him,win or loose,and let him decide when he wants to call it a day,and not because he feels pushed into it,BTW SO so sorry to see your dream girl maria loose to hantuchova in the final today,i was at work and when i came home i looked up the result,hoping for a win to cheer you up after fed loosing,so sorry.


Steve 27 Says:

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.”

Federer wants to be number 1 again, he thinks with two great victories against Nadal and Djokovic in major he’ll get into the fight and be near them but with its current level of play is much closer to losing the number 3 that surpass Sampras.
I do not know has lost his head a little, but he is wondering what is playing well … Anyway, I know the Davis Cup was never his priority, his ultimate goal was to accumulate large individual trophies and if that was selfish on his part is debatable but is not in their huge resume. Come on, Federer, we know that Olympic gold is your top priority this season because because he has not won, because every game is played to best of three sets except the final, and most of all, because it is played in the Cathedral of Wimbledon. What better way to end the most successful race of all time.


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