Novak Djokovic Meets Andy Murray For The 2016 Madrid Title, Who’s The Pick?
by Sean Randall | May 7th, 2016, 6:52 pm
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It’s the 32nd – and not the last – time that Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray will meet. But this is their first collision with the Madrid Masters title on the line and first final on clay.

They have played in Madrid before. The two childhood friends and rivals kicked-off their long rivalry right in Madrid nine-and-a-half years ago when it was played indoors in October. Djokovic came out ahead in that one and I think he wins their second meeting in the city, as well.

That said, Murray seems to really like these Madrid clay courts. He’s the defending champion with not one but two comprehensive wins over Nadal. Both in Spain and both in straight sets. I know Nadal isn’t what he was, but that’s still quite an achievement.

And maybe clay is Murray’s best surface? He only lost once match last year, that to Djokovic in a 5-set French Open semifinal, and once again he’s playing well (he’s 24-2 on clay since start of 2015).

“Andy has tremendously improved in the last couple of years on the clay courts,” Djokovic said. “[He's] already proved that he’s definitely one of the best players in the world in this surface as well. The rivalry continues. We have so many great finals, great matches, and I look forward to another one.”

Djokovic isn’t playing too badly either. He breezed early in the week and was in complete control against former Madrid finalist Kei Nishikori today before dropping serve for the first time after blowing four matchpoints while trying to serve it out.

Djokovic, though, hasn’t had the big success in Madrid as he’s had elsewhere. This is “just” his second final there after losing his last two matches at the event entering the week.

So some hope for Murray? Sure. But…

What gives me pause here is the head-to-head. Djokovic leads 22-9 but alarmingly has won 11 of the last 12 and he’s taken all three of their career clay meetings. Murray’s better on the surface, however, Novak has been so darn tough, especially against his top rivals. He’s won 14 straight matches against fellow Top 10 players, taking a jaw-dropping 30 of 31 sets during that stretch! And a record 29th Masters is in his crosshairs.

Murray will have to play aggressive and serve well to have any chance. And if he does win maybe he becomes a real threat to take Paris. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Madrid helps Murray get a set, but Djokovic gets the win.
The pick: Djokovic in three

Tennis Channel will have live coverage of the final starting at 12:30pm ET.

SUNDAY MADRID SCHEDULE
MANOLO SANTANA start 3:30 pm
DOUBLES FINAL – [3] J. Rojer (NED) / H. Tecau (ROU) vs [6] R. Bopanna (IND) / F. Mergea (ROU)

Not Before 6:30 pm
SINGLES FINAL – [1] N. Djokovic (SRB) vs [2] A. Murray (GBR)


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270 Comments for Novak Djokovic Meets Andy Murray For The 2016 Madrid Title, Who’s The Pick?

Dave Says:

I really think it’s going to go 3 sets. I will have to go with Djokovic, only because he seems to be in Andy’s head. They are both playing well, but that will be the deciding factor. IF Andy can hold his head together and keep playing aggressive tennis throughout the match, he has a chance. It would surprise me if Andy won this match either. Still going with Nole in 3.


Pauly Says:

Djokovic will only win if Murray chokes mentally
Murray has been the form player of this tournament
This place Madrid seems to be his favourite tournament now after winning last year
However I think Djokovic will win


Pauly Says:

As for taking Paris it’s different there
It suits Nadal the most with slow high bouncing clay
Murray can win Paris I think but so can the others
If Murray were to play Djokovic in the final in Paris
I’d go with Murray for some reason


Daniel Says:

Murray needs first set, as always against Novak.

If he can take first set than he has a chance, if he lose first set, straight win for Novak.
Murray kind of survived today against Nadal, losing serve twice when serving for Set 1 ad for the match, and if he gives as many BP’s to Novak he sure will do better than Nadal, his return is just better.


Pauly Says:

Nadal had 13 break points
He took 2 only
Murray broke 4 times with 6 break points if I recall
Conversion was the difference
Nadal struggled to break Murray
That’s how close matches are won
It could’ve gone to two tie breaks if Nadal could only hold his serve
But Murray is playing well in Madrid
He can win if he just shows no fear
Djokovic isn’t unbeatable
No one is
Not even Nadal in his peak claycourt years


Okiegal Says:

I was gonna look up the break points Rafa had…won’t have to now. 13 is a lot…yes he had his chances, just didn’t capitalize on them……..


Pauly Says:

OKiegal

Nadal didn’t play bad but didn’t take his chances when they came while Murray did bingo match won by Murray
Must take your chances or else it’s bye bye
Interesting to see how many chances Murray gives Djokovic ? If it’s 13 then match will be over very quick
Djokovic doesn’t waste break points like Nadal always seems to do … Should be battle of wills but mentally Djokovic is too strong even though Murray has been the form player this tournament


Margot Says:

Very sad to be agreeing with Sean Nole will turn into the destroyer the moment he sets eyes on Andy.
And, for sure, 43% FSP ain’t gonna cut it, whatever.


Okiegal Says:

@Pauly…..I think Novak will win it, but Kei worried him a little bit today. He was unsettled a few times. But you are right…..you got to get those breaks. I watched the match again and Rafa didn’t play that bad, Andy just was just tougher on key points……Rafa had his chances…13 of them!!


Okiegal Says:

Margot, Novak had his moments today…….that’s when you have to pounce….easier said than done, but Novak can be beaten…..you have to think….Monte Carlo….Monte Carlo…..Lol


Okiegal Says:

Margot….I almost have to agree with Giles….Novak does have a look out of his eyes that is scary…..beast mode eyes….Giles said devil eyes….I wouldn’t go that far……but he did get angry about something….maybe he did scare the ball kid that time……lol! Yeah, Andy is gonna have to be on his Ps and Qs tomorrow, for sure. I am anxious to see it on the TENNIS CHANNEL! (I have debated about sending this, for obvious reasons, but JK pointed out that I was feisty today…..sending it) The 😈 made me do it!! Good luck to Andy!!


George Says:

Djokovic has advantage of playing Nishikori who is more similar to Murray than Nadal is to Djokovic (in terms of playing styles). On the other hand, anyone who beats Nadal in Madrid on clay has at least 50% chances. If both players are mentally ready, it will be a classic.


Wog Boy Says:

It is raining at the moment in Madrid and it should stop around 6-7pm when match is due to start, they might keep the roof closed and it will be cold, 13 degrees.


Wog Boy Says:

VP,

Somehow I knew you are going to come back with something like that:))

Just rewatching Nole / Nishikori match, though that “knowledgeable” poster that plays competitive tennis says it was low (meh) quolity match, I can tell you that Nishikori played great match and in one way was better player, Nole won thanks to great serving. Nishikori gave Nole his own medicine, kept moving him, but Nole showed once more why he is the best in the world spoiler-GOAT;)


Van Persie Says:

WB,

Well, I am already predictable to you ;)

Agree with you. Nole played yestarday, in order not to let Nishikori win the match. Nishikori played very good.


chrisford1 Says:

Djokovic, like Fed, and sometimes Rafa when forced by Uncle Toni post 2011…does not play a certain way everyday. He tailors his game strategy for the player he faces.
Both guys will start out hard. Djokovic was on fire against Raonic returning serve, even more than usual. I expect him to up his serve return to that level against Andy. Nole will be playing Madrid and then Rome with a need to send a discouraging message to his rivals, to prep the battlefield of RG. Right now, Andy is the biggest rival, with a Rafa on a comeback looming. Because it is Andy, watch Djokovic’s aggression level go up when Andy has any dip in performance. Also, to do drop shots now and then even though Andy will end up winning most those points -
to throw doubt in Andy’s defense, on each point where he is sprinting to the corners to return. “Is Novak coming in, will he drop it?
For Murray – imperative to try and win the 1st set, try and drive Novak back behind the baseline further – to get better court position. Try and protect his serve always. Which adds to the pressure on Andy from the start.


Wog Boy Says:

CF1,

I still have nightmares with Nole’s drop shots against Simon at AO..even that poor dude yelled at the end of the match “nooo more drop shoots…”


Margot Says:

@Wog Boy
Robbie K said Nole is GOAT at ROS.
You’re welcome ;) Am I forgiven now? :)


Wog Boy Says:

Margot,

You are always forgiven..I knew I like Robbie K for a reason;)

BTW, you should be proud with Andy, I watched his three matches (Simon, Betdych, Nadal) and he is just focused, aggressive and brave, it sholid be one hell of the match..


Margot Says:

Thank you Wog Boy :) All depends on Andy’s miserable FSP. If that doesn’t improve, and not confident it will, it’ll be another whitewash.
Am pleased with improvement in 2nd serve tho., and better balance between defence and attack.
Like Pauly, I give him more chances at RG where the first set is not so crucial and Andy, being the slow starter he normally is, needs a set to wake up!


calmdownplease Says:

Andy played his worst match of the week last night
Yes he did!
The FSP (a sign of nerves against a big 3 opponent) was obviously the main problem, it will have to be around the 60% mark from the start Today if he is to have a chance (which he does).
And more clinical in his execution.
Going around the 40 odd % mark for most of the match shall result in a collapse and straight sets humiliation/annihilation from Novak, it should have been enough for Nadal too, frankly.
He has been playing very well all week however, he just needs to play perfectly this time and he could win it again
That’s all!
Perhaps the Nadal win will boost his confidence somewhat.
That said I would be vaguely shocked about it given how pitiful he has been against Novak for such a long period now.
Still, there’s always that (relative) first time for everything and stranger things have happened etc
The faster conditions will help at least and Novak has had some dodgy experiences here, I think the crowd won’t be too helpful to him.
As I said, he played his worst match yesterday so maybe it’s out of his system now?
Here’s hoping for a surprise….
For once.


anki Says:

Strangely, I think Andy is going to win in three. His form on clay has been ominous.


J-Kath Says:

“The sun will never set on the British Empire.
This is because God doesn’t trust what the British do in the dark.”

Said on TV today. And it is for WOGBOY. And no apologies for crashing a tennis thread..(feeling a bit feisty like Okie today).

PS: To anyone else: Andy is going to win this evening in three sets.

Bye. Bye.


Pauly Says:

Indoors will be fun


chrisford1 Says:

Wog Boy – Yes, that Simon match was so craptistic by Novak you had to laugh, given he won even then. In that match, for some reason that made sense only in the rare strange corridors of Nole’s mind. he got it in him a believe that Gilles would eventually capitulate to the mediocrity of Nole’s drops. As the Eistein cliche`goes, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.” And the more general real life truth – “Smart people can at times do really stupid things.” At the AO he wasn’t doing many things well, and one problem is he went to the well way too many times on a tactic only intended to keep defensive players honest.

It is a solid tactic. To do a drop shot so a defensive baseliner loses rhythm in a frantic rush to the net then spends the next 100 shots with the worry and anticipation of another drop in the back of their mind. Takes a player like Andy out of his comfort zone even if Andy is so fast he gets to the drop shot in time and gets a winner. It pumps the adrenaline at the wrong time, can be really tough on the legs to do a forward all out sprint and sudden stop. Watch Milos Raonic after he chases down a few Djokovic drop shots. The spring goes out of his legs.

Novak will play and give up those drop shot points if it helps win the overall war.

He went nuts with it in the Simon match..well into Stupid Land. But it’s something he has and works relentlessly on to have a new weapon at his disposal. A lot of his drop shots are still not that good, he is not consistent, but at times he does brilliant drop shots.
Andy will see a few and likely get to them and win the point…but it likely will ratchet up the pressure he bears.


calmdownplease Says:

Chrisford1 seems to think Novak is the only one that can drop shot
I would be surprised indeed if Novak did more of em tonight, or did them as well.


Margot Says:

@CDP: obviously he didn’t watch Andy v Berd and Andy v Rafa.


lakie Says:

I suppose it is safer to predict a Djokovic win but I sure hope Andy wins. Things are getting too boring. Andy is hugely talented but thanks to Dunblane (?) or his parents divorce or something else, he is more like a tragic hero at war with himself.


calmdownplease Says:

Yes, obviously.
He’s Djokocentric!
At least he isn’t another one of those damn Fedovic converts, however!
(At least I hope not)


George Says:

I put some money on Djokovic 2:0 win and some money on Djokovic 2:1 win. Good news for Andy fans is that I usually lose when I bet.


jalep Says:

Margot, off topic for just a second, have you watched The Night Manager?


Jun Says:

I expect the co-GOAT to raise his level in the final. As he usually does these days. I have a feeling this will not be close at all.

Novak in 2.


jalep Says:

Bernard Tomic strikes again.
He just retired his 1st round
Rome match in the third game, 1st set.
Benoit Paire through to 2nd round.

Tennis-X this thread’s wrapping is
messed up!!


skeezer Says:

^he needed to recount his 10mil, ya know, tennis is just a recreational vehicle for him.
—–
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-cbs-report-russian-gold-medalists-used-steroids-at-sochi-olympics-2016-5

Off topic, but could still bleed over to our sport….


Giles Says:

Delusional joker fans as usual. Co- Goat??? Surely you jest my dear!


Margot Says:

@jalep
Yes, I have. Next question? …….;
Based on an inferior Le Carre, whom I adore. Tom is very pretty and it’s all very stylish but completely implausible, especially Colman and Hollander, who couldn’t frighten a wee mouse.
Over to you :)


Humble Rafa Says:

Our senior doping reporter stays on top of all this doping noise. Our sport is clean. All athletes are innocently until proven dopey.


Humble Rafa Says:

Our senior doping reporter, Skeeze, stays on top of all this doping noise. Our sport is clean. All athletes are innocently until proven dopey.


jalep Says:

lol, Hollander, true. Nonetheless,
I love it and very happily have it recorded,
as had The Game last year. My, my,
Hiddles is another hot Tom from your island.
I can listen to him all day and night.
Thanks, Margot. Was just checking in with you
to see if I’m still batting it somewhere
near the ball park. 🤓


George Says:

@Giles: You meant to say delusional Rod Laver? I highly regard Djokovic’s game and for me Laver’s statement is more complimentary to Federer than Djokovic.


Margot Says:

@jalep
Glad you’re enjoying it. Tomis tipped in some circles to be next Bond, but meanwhile is playing


Margot Says:

oops, this wrap is horrid
…….Hank Williams in a biopic. Has been “howling” all over the place.
“London Spy” “Line of Duty” and “Peaky Blinders” are well worth a watch if you get the chance.


jalep Says:

Almost posted a YT link of Tom playing/singing
Hank Williams for GL. He might rival Hugh Jackman?
Okay, good! I’ll checkout the other’s you mention,
cheers, Margot.

Here we go…


Van Persie Says:

Good luck to Nole! Andy has good chances to win today.


J-Kath Says:

George @ 9.51am

Don’t change your pattern, George.
Andy fans will pass the hat round for you.
There’s a good lad.


Green Lady Says:

Jalep ahh Hugh luverly Hugh ;-)) ….


Daniel Says:

First game and Djoko already with 2 BP’s


FedExpress Says:

Murray is Nole biatch. nole doesnt even bother now to leave money behind cause he is a regular.


Daniel Says:

Murray’s drop working still


Daniel Says:

Murray with some ugly mistakes, 3-1 Djoko.


Daniel Says:

11-2 baseline points for Djoko, no contest


Daniel Says:

Third straight game and Murray frok behind, needs to serve big.


Daniel Says:

This set is gone, will finish in less than 30 min.

Clay suits Djoko’s game even more, he is flawless today and going to finish poijts whenever he has a chance. Murray not so great


Daniel Says:

8 winners by Djoko, 3 mistakes in 6 games. Hardly ant better than this.


Margot Says:

So awful from Andy am totally resigned and unstressed!
Nole is ruthless and completely in control. Think Andy must be asleep.


Daniel Says:

Another 15-30 game.

This will be a utter massacre and set the tone for Rome and RG.


Daniel Says:

At least Andy is getting some free points on serve, I think half the points he got this set so far were from aces or unreturned serves. And his first serve perecentage os decent.


Van Persie Says:

Am sure we will have a new match starting with 2 set…but Nole definetely raised his level today. Andy started to passiv the match


Giles Says:

Hey Andy, why do you always bring your best against Rafa and your worst against joker??? Unbelievable!


Margot Says:

Andy sleep walking to the guillotine. Needs a kick up the backside. Do hope you’re right VP, for his pride as much as anything.


Margot Says:

lol Daniel, indeed FSP is decent, which Andy fans wished for, but everything else is indecent! :(


Daniel Says:

Finally a great hold to Murray leading all the way. Let’s see if he makes this set more competitve


Daniel Says:

Novak also gearing in semis and finals as last 1 and a half years. He fond a way to conserve his best tennis when it matters most. This is remarkable from his part and the main improvement.


Daniel Says:

Djoko painting the lines


Daniel Says:

Djoko only lost 4 points on serve so far, Andy needs to pressure more


Daniel Says:

Murray’s chance, djoko making a few ue this game, 15-40


Daniel Says:

Diuble Fault Djoko to lose serve, now we have a match.


Van Persie Says:

and we have a new match, Margot


Okiegal Says:

Tennis is so fickle…..that is all I have to say ….Andy back up the break….don’t pull a Rafa….


jalep Says:

That first set was ridiculous. Nole playing in hyperspace.
I thought the Nole/Kei match was very good.

Andy can do better than 1st set. Needs to have a banner serving day. Andy has break points! And blows one long. One more. 2nd serve. Double fault!

Andy breaks. Now the harder part, maybe. holding.


Daniel Says:

Murray 4-12 33% in second serve points won, that won’t do long run.


Margot Says:

LOl VP, has Andy got out of bed at long last?


Okiegal Says:

@Margot…..Andy wasn’t sleepwalking yesterday……and he is 4-1 now…I think he just woke up in time to make it to a 3rd set…….


jalep Says:

This is it, Andy. Serving for the set! 5-3


Daniel Says:

Can Murray finally breaks the trend and beat Djoko after losing the first set? First time for everything.


Margot Says:

Nole’s level dropped and it’s one set each!
At least it’s not the massacre it looked like after the first set!


Van Persie Says:

Margot, Andy woke up and Nole went to bed?

Andy played much better in the 2


jalep Says:

Time to rip a shirt, Nole ole!


FedExpress Says:

clown murray

bagel coming. just like their miami meeting last year.


Daniel Says:

Jesz Djoko second time double faulting to lose serve, odd


Margot Says:

@FedExpress
OMG you are so sour. What is your problem?
Anyway “clown Murray” has avoided a bagel.


FedExpress Says:

jinxing.its called jinxing.

murray is the more talented of these two but a head case.
cant keep the momentum


FedExpress Says:

jinxing.its called jinxing.

murray is the more talented of these two but a head case.
cant keep the momentum


Daniel Says:

15-40, 3 silly mistakes by Murrau


Daniel Says:

4-2 Djoko, if he holds mow match over


FedExpress Says:

hahahahhaha. dont tell.me he isnt a clown now.

broken gets break back and broken.


Margot Says:

Nobody could’ve lived with Nole in that first set. Mr “Head Case” did not hang his head.


FedExpress Says:

why are you so sure that no one could have lived with nole in the 1st set. big statement to make.


jalep Says:

Nole with a time violation but Andy wants it for himself!


Margot Says:

@FedExpress
But you take delight in snide comments and don’t seem in the least interested in actual matches, only the opportunity to put players down, not just Andy, so I suppose at least you are impartial in that respect.
Very strange.


Daniel Says:

What was the talk exchange about


BBB Says:

And that’s why I love both these guys. Very classy.

Daniel are you referring to the exchange between Murray and the chair umpire? Murray objected to the chair calling a time violation on Djokovic when Murray caused the delay by checking out the line.


Daniel Says:

Now Murray double faulting to give Murray MP, and awful body language. Think this is ot now


jalep Says:

Yep. Classy stuff from Andy.


Daniel Says:

Not so fast, ace.


Daniel Says:

Thanks BBB. Didn’t herad it as the house is packed, lunch mother’s day here in Brazil.


Daniel Says:

Djoko serving for the title and Masters 29th.


Daniel Says:

Let’s see if yesterday will serve as a lesson


Daniel Says:

2 awful mistakes by Djoko going dtl both wings. Now time
To serve big


Green Lady Says:

Happy Mothers Day to Daniels mum, and of course any Mothers on this forum from Brazil ;-)) XX ….


Daniel Says:

Murray choose wrong but Novak return the favor. 0-40, worst game Djoko poayed ao far


jalep Says:

Very proud of Andy, again today. He’s not been
too hard on himself. Positive attitude today
and yesterday.
It’s not quite over…


Daniel Says:

Thanks GL,

But just realised it’s mother’s day every where😜


Green Lady Says:

Daniel not here in GB though, that was March ….


Daniel Says:

MP Djoko on serve.


Daniel Says:

US is today as well


BBB Says:

Crazy game.


Daniel Says:

7th break chance by Murray this game alone


Daniel Says:

3rd MP.


Daniel Says:

Victory!!

Djoko still dominating, holding 6 of 8 Mandatory Masters. 3 Masters this year, 29th and safe tomsay he will finish his career with minimum 35, 40 very likelly at this point.
This season he will get to 30 easily, maybe even next week.

If he wins Rome beating Nadal on the way and his preparation for clay will be complete and the undisputed favorite for RG.


Margot Says:

Well played Nole! Terrific match once Andy woke up.
But soooo relieved it wasn’t the massacre promised after the first set!


Van Persie Says:

Andy has nothing to be ashamed of. It was a great final. Happy for Nole :)


kriket Says:

He is, in my view, now the favorite to win RG. This match was the prequel.


Green Lady Says:

Well done Novak and fans, very sporting from Murray, shame about all those BPs that went begging though, dont care for all the hugs and kisses either, buisness like handshakes will do nicely, Murray you need to be more ruthless, your too nice sometimes ….


Wog Boy Says:

What a match, wow.

I am glad they can’t meet before final in FO.

Commiserations to Andy’s fan it could have been easily the other way around, that you were giving commiserations to us.


Vami Says:

I’m not convinced about Andy on clay, Kei pushed Novak much harder. All breaks Andy got were results of Novak’s crap play, other than a lot of superb first serves Andy hasn’t shown much else.
And commentators on skysport are incredibly annoying and clueless.


Okiegal Says:

As Rafa would say.. “Andy fighted today”! Andy made a match out of it after all. Congrats to Novak fans and commies to Margot and J-Kath. You have to be proud of him however, he had a great tourney……moving on!! I am back on Rafa’s trail…..Rome has always been kind to the KOC!!! VSMOS!!


kriket Says:

vsmos lol :)


Margot Says:

@ Wog Boy
We’re getting closer…and closer….. ;) But Andy now drops to 3, so they could meet in semis.


Green Lady Says:

Congrats to all the nice Nole fans, Jane, Mat4, Courbon (nice to see you here BTW), Jalep, Dave, Danica, Wogboy, etc etc, the fans i like and get along with ….


FedExpress Says:

a NID match. was always on noles racquet

worrying times for murray. so many matches lost vs nole and some of them he choked.

kudos that he still won 2 gs with that little mental strength he has.

he has under 10 wins vs nole and nadal each. this is just sick.


Wog Boy Says:

Margot,

Don’t forget Roger is defending final in Rome.


FedExpress Says:

just like he was the fav last year. and the thing that he hasnt won RG title makes him more vulnerable. he will get tight.


Green Lady Says:

Commies to Margot and J-Kath, brave fight there, glad Andy made a fight of it after the first set ….


BBB Says:

Tennis channel is saying that Murray and Federer are tied and the second seed for RG will depend on Rome results.


Green Lady Says:

But its clay so it doesnt count anyway lol ….


J-Kath Says:

Vami

Andy’s results were the result of Novak’s crap play? Listen to yourself. Do you really want to copy Skysport?


madmax Says:

This was a really, really good match, with strong, very strong play by Murray, but Novak. Just on a different level. He has always had the ability to come back from the point of no return. He just ….well, …returns.

Return of the Jedi.


Okiegal Says:

It takes a sick person to know “sick”…….just saying…..


Wog Boy Says:

The most beautiful ball girls without a doubt…I wonder if Ion Tiriac is choosing them.


Vami Says:

@ JK
His first break (2nd set) was a result of 2 UE from Novak plus two DF? I the 3rd another DF and a couple of DFs. It looks like we didn’t watch the same match. The quality was nothing spectacular in the 2nd and 3rd while in the first Novak was on cruise control due to very poor display from Andy (Novak did play extremely well in the 1st).


Travis Bickle Says:

Commiserations to “certified” Nole-haters on this site, Giles, Green Lady and Lakie!!! You lose again, LOL.

As for Murray fans on Tennis X, I don’t know of classier and more loveable fan base…
And, based on his sportsmanship today, looks like Andy himself is improving in that regard!


Vami Says:

Against Kei Novak had to work hard to shorten points, Kei was winning long rallies. Andy was nowhere on that level, all that Novak needed was to push the ball back but Novak’s level was lower than against Kei and that made Andy look better.


Okiegal Says:

: @kriket 2:59……fat fingers the cause of my typo….So I will give it another go…VAMOS! Lol You did want me to correct that, right?? Lol


Van Persie Says:

Well, sorry for the Andi fans and cograts to all Nole fans :). 29 Masters and 64 titles as total. Nole equaled Sampras. Great ;)


Wog Boy Says:

In the era of the best ever clay court player Nole holds every clay masters at leas twice and he beat Rafa multiple times in every clay masters. altogether 8 clay court masters in the era of the King of clay, not bad not bad!


Green Lady Says:

@3.21pm, Im not a hater, i dont even hate people in the real world, i dont even hate you, even though your a bit of a tool, thankfully ive been here long enough that the sensible Novak fans know me much better than that, ive had a superb week, not even you could spoil, so LOL right back at you, CHEERS ….


Travis Bickle Says:

A piece of advice for Djoker haters: you suffer enough when your fave loses, but then in the final you cheer so hard against Djoker and suffer AGAIN when he inevitably wins.
You could cut your suffering in half if you just cheer FOR players and not AGAINST…
Who knows, some folks like suffering, I know some dudes who pay hookers just to whip them silly, no sex involved.


Wog Boy Says:

I am trying to imagine Roger telling chair umpire what Andy told today in defense of Nole, just joking, that is unimaginable;)


FedExpress Says:

winning clay court masters isnt equal to winning RG.


Tom Says:

Hi everyone, been away a while especially after No1e’s disaster in Monte Carlo. No, as much as I want to pour it on about Rafa, I will refrain from doing it (although I really wanted to yesterday). Glad No1e won with his sloppy play at times but I have to give Andy credit for not folding after that first set and pushing No1e. Rome should be interesting and the battle for the 2nd seed will be wild. AND, will Rafa get the 4 seed to avoid No1de in the quarters. Also, how about that wild scene with a packed stadium watching Roger at practice? Hope No1e gets the fan-love down the road when Roger and Rafa are gone.


Green Lady Says:

Fedexpress no true, but hes the favorite to win RG, so time will tell if he cracks the case ….


chrisford1 Says:

After 2 clay Masters, running ATP points:

Novak Djokovic – 16,550
Roger Federer – 7525
Andy Murray – 7525

Pretty crazy! Andy should be #2 for RG, though as Roger has to defend his points for making the Final at Rome. Maybe someone could educate me on how they break the tie on identical points =7525?

Thought subjectively it was a close contest, but Matchstats had Novak the better in each key performance area. Andy played well enough I do hope he is not in the same half as Djokovic of both the Rome and RG draw for that reason. Same with Rafa.


Green Lady Says:

Sean Randall and staff, some of the posts you let through, really ? ….


Wog Boy Says:

I would say Andy is pretty safe bet for #2 in France. Don’t forget to take 600 points from Roger and whatever was Andy’s result in Rome last year in Tome and Andy will be ahead even before they start to play in Rome.


FedExpress Says:

nope wogboy

they are even and the points for rome have been taken off

so who goes further secures the number 2 spot


Wog Boy Says:

If points from Rome were taken off, Nole wouldn’t have 16.550 points, check here:

http://live-tennis.eu

and checke here where they are taken off and Andy is ahead few hundred points:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/rankings/singles


Okiegal Says:

Oh, no…..it’s back…..our poster from the “blue” lagoon……I will just bet he is one of the dudes that gets whipped silly!! 😁😁😁 Have a 🍩…to represent the hole you have in your head……


Wog Boy Says:

Disregard second one , just first, live ranking.


Vami Says:

@GL
So, you’re forcing the internet police again? Why should we read Travis’ and lough out loud when we have you and Okie instead talking about your private lives on a tennis forum?


Wog Boy Says:

Okie,
I thought it was “Blue Oyster Bar”..


Green Lady Says:

Okie i cant wrap my head around it, we have guidelines, yet he seems to get away with murder, dont understand it, and before anyone says anything back at me, yes i have called out certain posters for racism, multiple times ….


J-Kath Says:

Vami…I accept you have the right to give your views but possibly you might consider that they are only your views…..

As Travis says: “You could cut your suffering in half if you just cheer FOR players and not AGAINST”.


BBB Says:

Green Lady – I agree with you. It’s amazing what gets zapped and what doesn’t.


J-Kath Says:

ChrisFord 1

The draw for Rome was out yesterday and Andy is No.2.


Green Lady Says:

Vami alot of posters mention stuff in their private lives, and if people ask me stuff i like to answer so im not impolite, sometimes it happens to go that way as a conversation gets steered that way, but i certainly dont bring in crude smutty slurs about people / players and their private lives, like your friend does, but if thats the sort of thing you find funny then power to you, and hes a fellow fan so i suppose you would defend him anyway ….


Green Lady Says:

BBB Cheers ….


J-Kath Says:

ChrisFord 1

PS: Ought have said the calculation is very complex but they act on Current status in general. So Roger had already withdrawn from Madrid – Andy was (at that stage) deep into the contest/still a contestant.


Wog Boy Says:

Nole is short abou $500K of 100 million, if not in Rome he’ll crack 100mil mark in Paris.


Travis Bickle Says:

“… and if people ask me stuff i like to answer so im not impolite …”

Ok, then Green Lady, I am really interested in your gastrointestinal health, and will politely ask you a personal question:
Do you suffer from constipation and/or haemorrhoids? I am asking because you constant cries for internet censorship indicate you have a bit of “tightness” down&behind…

Please answer, I asked very politely.


J-Kath Says:

@ George

You may now emerge from the chicken coup where you have been counting your money. I’ll keep everything I collected in the hat. O.K. ?


J-Kath Says:

WogBoy : I’m happy to change camps if I can get a share? Will you sponsor me?


Jun Says:

Commiserations to Andy and his fans. He’s definitely getting closer and closer, and very dangerous now on clay. Great to see his progress. With him and Novak at the top of the game, i don’t see a lot of hope for next gen.

Lastly…. Nooollleeee!!!


Temple Says:

Just for the record, and since noone has seemed to notice, the so called “weakness” in Novak’s game, the smash, has been turned into an advantage in Madrid. I cannot recall even one missed smash in about 30 or 40 in the tournament.

To be fair to his opponents, there is indeed a new strategy now to face Novak, the time violation in important games, implemented both at the Kei and Andy matches.


Wog Boy Says:

JK,
Yes, I’ll sponsor you, that’ll be my pleasure.

I am not sure if George won the money, didn’t he say he put the money on 2:0 and it was 2:1. George can clear the situation so we know how much money WE are sharing..


Green Lady Says:

Travis Bickle your a nasty bully, and twisted little man, who obviously lacks something in his own personal life, that he needs to attack other people over an internet forum, just go away and leave me alone ….


Wog Boy Says:

Temple,

As much as I love Nole I close my eyes whenever he is about to hit one OH, but Andy and Rafa are competing seriously with Nole for the best OH..


assia Says:

How on earth was that comment by travis bickle let through?
Tasteless in the extreme and that’s putting it mildly.
Talk about holding up the mirror to nature (his own).


J-Kath Says:

Margot

Andy is No. 2 in Rome. As for French….the later the draw etc. etc. Roger has more to defend in Rome.

And to Wogboy, Jun and Friends: Kind remarks gratefully received. We are hell-bound to receive your congratulations soon as….ah well you know what I mean.


Dave Says:

One thing to say before we go into the match. Nole was just as in form as Andy all week. Andy can be proud of himself because he took an in form Nole to the limit today. That is the best he has done against an in form Nole in a long time.

As fas as the match goes. There are no issues with Nole’s serving. His net play looks amazing at the moment. Just one more shot he has confidence with at the moment. That’ can’t hurt going into the French Open. He looked fresh and not tired.

Murray needs to improve on how he starts matches. Mind you, Nole played lights out in the first set, so maybe there wasn’t to much that Andy could do about it. I liked Andy’s attitude today. He never gave up. He showed good sportmanship as well. I really enjoyed that moment where Andy said it was his fault for the delay. That was a nice moment.


Pauly Says:

If Nadal made the final it would’ve been much easier for Djokovic
At least Murray got one set off Djokovic
Rome is easy to win for Djokovic !
The French open is finally within his grasp can’t see anyone beating him there either
Unless Nadal improves 20% or Wawrinka again out hits Djokovic


kriket Says:

You people haven’t been reading comments by Giles, obviously. He’s the most obnoxious hater around, has been for as long as I’ve been visiting this site.


J-Kath Says:

Tom
Last time I checked Stan had slightly over 1000 points over Rafa so Rafa will be No. 5. Welcome your correction if I’m wrong.


Green Lady Says:

Congrats to Jun too, now i know he /shes a Nole fan, just remember though its clay, and clay court titles dont count however :-P ….


Green Lady Says:

Kriket ever heard the expression six of one and half a dozen of the other ….


Travis Bickle Says:

“… ever heard the expression six of one and half a dozen of the other …”

Is that expression from a haemorrhoid-relief cream, referring to their even symmetrical distribution on booth cheeks down there?

Again, note I am asking this politely.


Wog Boy Says:

Giles and FedExpress are recorded entering “Blue Oyster Bar” followed by the Nole’s bandwagoner who finally jumped of the wagon and showed his real face, have a look:

https://youtu.be/nlGclIZV5JQ


Green Lady Says:

Wogboy cheers for the Police Academy clip, i love that film, that scene is hlarious ….


Jun Says:

Thanks, GL. You’re very nice.

No, they don’t count at all. Why would they? They only take the same number of points to win a game, the same number of games to win a set and the exact same number of sets to win a match.


Green Lady Says:

Jun lol, exactly ….


Jun Says:

Nice tweet from Novak to Andy:

“@andy_murray really grateful and honoured to have witnessed your sportsmanship tonight. Tennis is lucky to have you as ambassador. Thank you.”


jane Says:

Missed the match. Sounds like it was a good tussle. I have no idea what he’s talking about but Novak sent out this sweet tweet

“.@andy_murray really grateful and honoured to have witnessed your sportsmanship tonight. Tennis is lucky to have you as ambassador.Thank you
1:58 PM – 8 May 2016″


jane Says:

Lol, Jun – 6 beer?


Green Lady Says:

Jane Novak got a time violation warning, and Andy stuck up for him saying it was his fault, as he was getting a ball or raquet or something along those lines, anyway Andy acknowledged it was his fault ….


Wog Boy Says:

jane,

Whrn Nole time violation Andy approached Cair umpire and told him it was his fault not Nole’s, since he made Nole waiting while cleaning the lines.


Green Lady Says:

Clearing the lines, right Wogboy sorry ….


jane Says:

Thanks GL. That’s nice. :)
Wish i couldve seen it!

Have to agree with Travis Bickle about one thing: very lovely Murray fans here. But then, by and large I find the tennis fans here to be pretty awesome.

Onward and upward.


jane Says:

Thanks wog boy, too. Cheers! So does Novak now have more than one of every Masters (except Cincy)? I think so right?


Green Lady Says:

Jane im not commenting on that person, whos nothing but an internet bully sorry ….


Wog Boy Says:

Yes jane, Nole won every masters two times or more exept Cincy (0) :)


jane Says:

Thx Wog boy…whoo hoo! :))

GL, fair enough.


Lifetime Tennis Fan Says:

Djokovic is Federer’s equal when it comes to GOAT, said Rod Laver last week.
The one and only one true Grand Slam champion and arguably the real GOAT Rod Laver knows much more about tennis history than most people.
http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id/15452386/tennis-rod-laver-comes-goat-novak-djokovic-roger-federer-equal


Wog Boy Says:

I posted this on Serena’s thread:

For stats lovers (jane, Daniel..), this is Nole’s 15th straight win against top-10 opponents, a streak in which he has lost only two of 35 sets.

CF1,
if you are still around, I found the answer on your question how they decide who gets better ranking in the case both players have same amounts of points, it is TBs percentage, Roger has better one and that’s why he is ahead of Andy atm, but not for long.


Okiegal Says:

@Wog…..forgot all about that movie….that would probably work better! Funny movie.

@Vami….You and Travis should “hooker” up and whip each other silly….Then go to the Blue Oyster Bar and have a few!! You two would be excellent company for each other….and speaking of hemorrhoids…..Travis is a GIANT one….LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL


J-Kath Says:

GL and Okiegal

Please continue your comments as before. They are natural and fresh. The “slings and arrows of outrageous fortune should be opposed”…..
… by not opposing them (apologies to Shakespeare).

I just don’t like you having to battle. You may find some connecting humour in the long run…. a bit gross, but sometimes funny, and clever – as long as it is not personal can be handled/ignored.

I say this because I was pursued by someone recently who decided to run my emotions for me…(the death of my husband) which was so upsetting on many levels). Now that it has stopped I feel OK. and am relaxed towards “the person”.

Please forgive me if I’ve over-stepped the role of friendship. I’m in a reflective mood tonight.


Green Lady Says:

Right on Okie, some find that sort of thing funny, well each to their own i suppose ….


jane Says:

Amazing Wog Boy. Yeah i know stats dont tell the whole story but i love ‘em anyhow. Facts are facts. :)


J-Kath Says:

Wog Boy

Doesn’t apply to Rome as Draw is already out. But the timing for FO is a slight worry to me.


Wog Boy Says:

JK,

Yes, I was just talking in general, but as I said, Andy is safe bet for #2 for Paris.


Green Lady Says:

J-Kath im not a prude, i just dont find gross out humour funny, i have friends, whom think comedian Roy Chubby Brown is hilarious, i just find that sort of thing quite crude, but no you havent stepped over the role of friendship, as i always love and read your ensightful posts, CHEERS J-Kath ….


J-Kath Says:

Kriket:

Giles is?????…well Giles just is Giles. I think he’s happy in his skin, so to speak.


Travis Bickle Says:

Wow Okiegal is in a spunky mood today!
Admittedly, I have a hard time calling a senior citizen in her 70s a “gal” but if you feel like one and don’t own a mirror, you can go for it, I guess.

I feel you are a bit frisky in your sunset years and also I know you Okies split your support evenly between Trump and Ted Cruz, which doesn’t bode well for your knowledge of pop culture. However, I’ll try to salute you with a quote from a famous movie:

“The only two things from Oklahoma are steers and queers, and I don’t see any horns on you GAL.”


J-Kath Says:

Thank you GL….Relieved…as long as it moves away from being personal…I think that’s where the boundaries lie.


Vami Says:

@JK
My views are my views, I don’t see why I need to agree with anybody and I’m not asking anybody to agree with me either. You are the one who attacked me, it wasn’t the other way around.

On that level to break a guy you usually need to do something extraordinary for a couple of points and hope the opponent would make a couple of mistakes. Andy didn’t do anything extraordinary at all, he didn’t need to as his opponent did all the work for him. When Novak made 3 UEs and a DF in the 2nd set when lost his serve the guys on skysport commented how Andy’s level was up! It was laughable, he did nothing at all. I could’ve been on the other end and would win that game.

Kei on the other hand started painted lines from the get go and winning all long relies. It was a very intense match, Novak was alert from the first point until the (very nervous) end. Against Murray it was his pure laziness in the 2nd set that allowed Andy to be back in the match, Kei was never allowed that luxury.


chrisford1 Says:

1. Discussion yesterday was not Nole as a all-time great drop shot artist or net player. Just that he has now embraced it as a tool to discombobulate the rhythm and comfort zone of very good players like Rafa and Andy that prefer to hang 2 meters back from the baseline and others who have some speed but can’t stop on a dime when chasing sown corner shots. Smart even if he loses more drop shot attempts than win. And how the strategy got away from him against Simon. Like he couldn’t draw Simon in, so he thought more dropshots, more drop shots until Simon does come in – and rued it.

2. J-Kath, love it! Since the draw was earlier, the change in the rankings to drop Andy to #3 just won’t matter. And I expect him to do better than Stan, Fed, and Rafa is too far behind, but better than Rafa, too for Rome, so it’s looking good for Andy to be #2 and away from Djokovic for the FO and Wimbledon. And Andy did succeed in one thing, he had another fairly close match in losing to Novak. So no psychological putaway for Novak. And Madrid is showing his improved clay play in 2015 was no fluke.

3. Second Travis Bickle’s comment on Muzz fans “As for Murray fans on Tennis X, I don’t know of classier and more loveable fan base…”. No doubt some are from the Commonwealth and cheer Andy for that, but many others just like the guy and his play and perservere with good nature while Andy gets close but comes up short, his 2012-13 breakout, and cheer even as he regressed post Lendl and now have more cause to think Andy is on the upswing with his clay play and yet another AO Final. Fans that stick with a guy through thick and thin, put up with Andy’s negativity flaws….are the type of fans you want. Not the worshippers of Fed or the late-coming bandwagoneers of whatever Big 4 guy is winning. Margot, J-Kath, many more.


J-Kath Says:

Vami…
I assume English is not your first language. This is what I said.

“I accept you have the right to give your views but possibly you might consider that they are only your views…..

As Travis says: “You could cut your suffering in half if you just cheer FOR players and not AGAINST”.

Attacked you?

I am so so , so sorri…gosh, please forgive me I will never quote Travis again…I promise. Have a good night’s sleep.


chrisford1 Says:

Steers and queers is a Tay-hass thing, Travis.
And I’d give Okies credit for more brains than people in America’s inner cities and Hollywood voting 98-2 for the media’s Black Messiah the past two elections.


J-Kath Says:

ChrisFord 1

So kind of you to post in such a moment. And not just as a kindness. But for others to recognize Andy’s value albeit not as the very top player, but for you to recognize his value as a player really warms me.

Thank you for your post and for copying what Travis also stated.
I was pleased with what looks like Andy’s ability to change match plan as required and have a sense he will do very well for the rest of the year. Not bothered that he doesn’t match a couple of greats over his career, just that he shows his his talent which hopefully will translate into some future successes.

Seriously, your comments have come to me with great warmth. Thank you and thank you.


skeezer Says:

“The most beautiful ball girls without a doubt…I wonder if Ion Tiriac is choosing them.”
I’ve been saying this for years ;)

Congrats to the Nole fan base, the new King of Clay.


Tennisfansince1976 Says:

@chrisford1 minor quibble. Both djokovic and Murray came onto the atp with drop shots in their arsenal and used them often


skeezer Says:

“…worshippers of Fed..”

I don’t see any worshipping of Fed here. But the worshippers of Church Novak is here aplenty.


Daniel Says:

Thanks for the stat Wog Boy.

Another one I was thinking about is if there is still player with positive HxH against Novak? Think not.

And also his record against everybody else is looking impressive, specially top tenners.


Okiegal Says:

@Travis…..I’m not surprised you would say something off color about Oklahomans….your little movie quote. Picking on my moniker, is that all you can come up with to make light of my age?? You got one think right, I am spunky for an old okie grandma!! Lol Not on any of the presidential band wagons this election year……

@J-Kath ^^^^ sorry about the above comment…..he did say one thing in his comments I will agree with, he likes the Andy fan base and so do I. Aren’t you all the lucky ones??


Wog Boy Says:

Daniel,

There is three active players with positive heda to head against Nole that I can think of: Ivo Karlovic (3:1), Vesely (1:0), Filip Krajinovic (1:0).

I think you are right about his results agains top 10, I don’t think it ever happened that one player had such superior record against top 10 players. I think, without checking, that he has more than 20 wins agaist five or six top 10 players.


Daniel Says:

Roddick was the only one who finished with a positive HxH but he retired early.

I remember Kuerten (Guga) had a positive HxH with both Fed and Nadal and so was Hrbaty, but they also retired early.

This 1-0 kind of don’t count really, as soon as he’ll have another chance he can revert that, so Karlovic if he is able to play him a few more times before he retire. But even so, HxH with jutst 1 match difference won’t matter much.

I know that out of matches player more than 10 times 20 times, Djoko, Federer and Nadal must have the most stellar once, have to check the differences.


Daniel Says:

If Murray reaches Quarters in Rome, Federer will have to win Rome to get back to #2. If Murray reaches finals even if Federer wins the title he is #2 for RG.

So, the #2 is basically in Murray’s racquet, specially with his draw.

As for #4 seed, if Wawrinka reaches final, regardless if Nadal wins Rome he will be #4. If Wawa wins one match, Nadal have to win the title to get back to #4.

Berdych, Ferrer and Raonic are also fighting for #8 seed. Ferrer defends semis so he has the most to lose, Think either Berdych or Raonic takes #8 seed, most likely Berdych.


BBB Says:

To this day, when I hear Hrbaty’s name, I think of that shirt.


chrisford1 Says:

Tennisfansince 1976 – Rafa, Andy, and Novak of course had the ability from the start to drop shot, but used it infrequently as baseliners. Rafa and Andy have better hands than Novak, BTW..But since he is coming to net more often, the number of Djokovic drop shots has greatly increased.

Andy Roddick jokingly said that a big factor in his decision to retire was to preserve him being the only player who had a significant number of matches with Djokovic, with a positive H2H. He said that about a year and a half ago, predicting that both Fed and Rafa would end up with more losses than wins against the guy. One difference between him and Rafa is that Novaks H2H’s tend to be not as skewed as Rafas against everyone but Djkovic and the Davydenko outlier. So Rafa is still rated by most Top 20 as the toughest player to face when he was in full form.
Not that Djokovic lacks some murderous H2Hs over others like Tsonga, Monfils, Berdych. Joe Tsonga, who I like a great deal as a tennis ambassador and overall nice guy, has said that Djokovic “ruined his career” by always beating him in the big ones. And how he is convinced Novak is a space alien, because no human should be able to return like he does.


Wog Boy Says:

Daniel,

Thanks for confirming what I already told FedExpress, when Rome points are taken off Andy is ahead of Roger, they are even now because Rome points hasn’t been taken off.


skeezer Says:

“Rafa, Andy, and Novak of course had the ability from the start to drop shot,…”
But they all followed Fed, the maestro of the dropper.


lakie Says:

Frankly dear TB you should extend commiserations to all tennis fans as tennis has become too boring. Not surprising you like Andy fans. Andy hasn’t really been a threat. It is FEDAL at peak who kept Djokovic in the also ran place. If what you said about Oklahoma is true, you should move there as you would be quite at home with steers and queers.


Van Persie Says:

Out of topic: I could not find any “no no word” in the posts from Travis Bickle. This guy has writing talent. Do not see the reason, why his posts should be censored.


Van Persie Says:

P.S. All the prudes from TX should read at least one novel from Henry Miller.


lakie Says:

Okie attracted obnoxious TB because of her demon eyes post.
Demon eyes Djokovic is from East Europe. Gluten free diet. Thin, good looking with super human endurance and strength. Classic description of a vampire.
Vampires are now the hottest super heroes with books, tv shows, movies featuring them.


Van Persie Says:

^^proves me only how uncultivated Lakie is. Pls. post some more Lakie.;)
I can be only satisfied, when you write stupid things like the ones above ;)


Van Persie Says:

Lakie,

Please teake a break, suck an onion (we use this expression in my original country for “nice” creatures like you), then come back and write something insightful


Van Persie Says:

Correcion: take a break


Wog Boy Says:

VP,

I can only guess something really bad happened to lakie in the last 12 months, she was different poster, though she still posts under original moniker (or second or third original moniker). Pity to see how low she ended up with her posts about Nole, particulary last one about Eastern Europe and vampires, invented story by British writer.


Van Persie Says:

WB,

She/He definetily need an onion ;)
Well: a few “vampires” won last weekend in Madrid: Simona Halep, Horia Tecau(in doubles together with Rojer) and Nole. I can only be very proud of them.
Congrats to all :)


Van Persie Says:

correction: needs an onion


Okiegal Says:

@J-Kath 5:43 I was mentioned in that comment you are referring to….You took it totally different than I did. I truly believe she was sincere in trying to apologize for thinking she might have hurt our feelings. I guess she did stomp on your feelings, but her comment did not bother me at all. She is a nice person……she probably wasn’t able to get her point across…..the language barrier thingy. It’s funny how two people can read the same exact thing and come up with different assumptions.

Am I understanding it correctly that you think me and GL should not comment about Travis Bickle?? If so, I feel the same as Green Lady…..we can still have our friendship. So we don’t agree, big deal…..that is mostly what this forum is all about ……not agreeing……Lol! Good luck to Andy for Rome….if Rafa doesn’t do well, Andy is my next hope. JK….have you ever cheered for Rafa…..just curious? Lot of talk on TX about cheering for a player when in actuality you are just against the other player. I am guilty of that……I must admit……especially if it should happen to be Soderling or Rosol….lol. Just those two….not Fogi, Nick or the others that have beaten Rafa……..


lakie Says:

TB has writing talent? Le Pétomane version of Shakespeare? Hilarious!


danica Says:

I loved that Simona won!! Can’t stand Cibulkova after her words against Masha. Same goes for Kiki Mladenovic (also an “Eastern European vampire” :)) lol ).

She is nice, classy, cute, smart and a darn good player. I hope she goes climbs back to the top, where she belongs.


lakie Says:

Did I say or did even the writer of the original Vampire book say all East Europeans are vampires? Tut tut, poor logic. Simona etc do not satisfy the vampire look of demon eyes, gluten free diet and thin look. Simona in fact had extra fat.
Your logic is like saying TB is an a*s***e is the same as all a*s***es are TB.


lakie Says:

WB I am sure you are confusing me with somebody else.


Okiegal Says:

@lakie…..Giles said Satan eyes….I said I wouldn’t go that far….beast mode eyes…..When he gets that look, you better beware, cause he means business!! He is so freaking awesome…..that’s all I can say about Novak! The vampire thing…..uh, that’s something that would never have crossed my mind…….Up won’t say anything else about TB…..he kicks old people to the curb….I can deal with it! I’m from Oklahoma and very resilient…..enough on that subject….moving on and hoping to see some great tennis in Rome! Wishing good luck to all TX fan bases and their favorites!! I 💞 🎾 and the Spanish 🐂! 🆗


lakie Says:

The post about poor logic was addressed to VP.


Okiegal Says:

^^^^ should say I won’t say anything else instead of up…..my stupid spell check….


lakie Says:

We can all move on if TB, VP and vami stick to tennis. WB should stop applauding butt focused posts of his friends.


Okiegal Says:

I will agree with @lakie on another point regarding Novak…..he is a very good looking guy……I am dying to see a close up pic of little Stefan!


lakie Says:

How old is TB? He is probably 100 years old and constipated. No wonder he is in a permanent bad mood.


Van Persie Says:

“Simona etc do not satisfy the vampire look of demon eyes, gluten free diet and thin look. Simona in fact had extra fat.”

wow, I love Lakies life philosophy. So you have to be fat, in order to be human.

“Mens sana in corpore sano”, to quote the ancient Romans…I do not know, how you look like, Lakie. But I am sure , that you do not have a healthy mind.


lakie Says:

Dear VP, you obviously do not know your vampires. I am an expert on them. Before you ask, no, I am not a vampire. Don’t much care for liquid diet.

You really must take lessons in logic. VP has eyes. A pig has eyes. Does it mean VP is a pig? No (at least I hope not!!!)


Van Persie Says:

“Dear VP, you obviously do not know your vampires. I am an expert on them”

yep, you really are ill.

Keep posting here. You will also get advises, which medication to use.
Good luck!


Green Lady Says:

Agree on Novaks looks, the eyes, the smile, the cheeky chappie type personality, looks lovely in a suit, and loved Wogboys pictures of him and Rafa together watching Real Madrid, as both cleaned up really well, Novak reminds me alot of Robbie Williams, not looks wise, i mean the personality, so i never have hated Novak, thats all a falacy, the thing i hate in sport, any sport that is, is too much domination, i never hated Manchester United, i just didnt care for them winning, and now the EPL seems more open with more teams getting competitive ….


lakie Says:

Thanks, Dr VP. In these days of spiraling health care costs, gratuitous medical advice is welcome.
But first you must take care of constipation problems of vami, TB and yourself. Symptoms like butt fixation, extra sensitivity to GI health,perpetual bad mood…


Green Lady Says:

Also the Andy fan base are a fantastic bunch, i wish there was more of them, i miss Racquet, The DA, Honfleuisse etc, also miss Novak fans like Duro and Harry, Fed fans like Swiss Maestro and Ajet, and theres hardly any Rafa fans left anymore ….


Van Persie Says:

Mental issues like yours have top priority, I suppose ;)

there will be others here, who might help you with some medication advices. There are a lot of experts on TX. A fex months ago I have seen some interesting links adressed to one poster from here (regarding medication)

Good luck and bye, bye.


Wog Boy Says:

lakie,

You know very well that I know who you are, I don’t understand your sudden urge to defend Federer, but when I go back to your old posts (under different moniker) you did say you will defend him, what is normal considering he is your first love.
As for me “applauding butt focused posts of my friends”, stick to the facts and check this thread and tell me where did you see any of my posts about that and copy/paste to prove it, but then check what are you excatly doing now and for what reason, apart of comparing Nole and Eastern Europeans with vampires.
You know, Romania is on the Black See and there is possibility that vampires swam across the pond and entered the bodies of another nation…just saying;)


lakie Says:

Bye VP. Don’t forget your daily enema. In the meantime “stake holders” in tennis can search for a cure for boring tennis.


Van Persie Says:

Stayed a bit longer for you here now. You must be honored

At least somebody is using the enema…insead to others (like you) it all went to the head ;)


Wog Boy Says:

@4:50am. “Black Sea”


Van Persie Says:

WB,

Of course they have emigrated. We had “Interview with a vampire”. They are in USA now.


lakie Says:

WB, ha ha, on a lighter note, most of your vampires are in Hollywood. Thin, beautiful…. like Angelina Jolie?
How about you and me bury the hatchet? Not so with vami, vp or tb. But you are a good guy.


Green Lady Says:

Wogboy / Lakie i enjoy reading posts from both of you ….


Wog Boy Says:

Fine with me lakie, I am easy…but not cheap;)..but don’t expect me to go against my Nole fans here, I am loyal, that’s how I was raised.

As for Angelina Jolly, sorry, can’t stand her, neither as actor nor person, but I love her predecessor as wife of her husband, the one she stole (using her vampire’s skills) her husband from, I wonder where were Brad’s eyes when he left Jennifer for Angelina?


Green Lady Says:

Wogboy i can understand you defending fellow fans, but why are some of them taking it to a level where they are attacking me and Okie personally, especially when neither of us did anything to deserve that, it can get quite hurtfull at times, im a sensitive person who was actually in tears yesterday, i was in two minds about not posting anymore, but i though why should i give them the satisfaction of driving me away, surely with whats Novaks continuing to do in tennis is amazing and unprecidented, why not just enjoy that, rather than attacking people personally with such vitriolic attacks ….


lakie Says:

WB, I know you are loyal and I respect that. I think you are like Brutus, an honorable man siding with evil conspirators thinking they are fighting for the common good. But that is just my opinion. I grant they could be good ( but very unlikely!).

Re: Angelina Jolie, I cannot stand her either. I actually liked her in the movie ” Tomb Raider” but did not care for her thereafter.
Good night and let us hope to find more common ground tomorrow.


Green Lady Says:

Girl Interupted where Jolie won an oscar, for her portrayal of a mental patient, was an amaziong film, based on a true story of Suzanah Kayson ….


mat4 Says:

Hi everybody! Hope you are enjoying tennis, and that I’ll come back soon to comment with you. I dare hoping that there will be less tension next time, since I see too much non-tennis related posts.

As a Novak fan, I am not happy the way Andy and Kei played — Andy has obviously worked a lot and he will be very dangerous. I can’t see him not winning a slam soon; let’s hope it will not be the FO. He acted as a gentleman on the court, and it seems that he has well matured lately.

Novak has tremendously improved his IO forehand and continues to work on his forehand in general. He looked much better than in Miami.

The final was very disputed, and Novak won it by a hair length. I prefer when it’s routine, but it’s from the angle of a Nole fan. Otherwise, the final was of a very high quality, with breathtaking exchanges.

Best wishes to all my ethereal friends on this forum!


Travis Bickle Says:

OMG Green Lady!

Not only you are Novak-hater but also the biggest hypocrite on all tennis forums in the World Wide Web!!! You really should be ashamed of yourself and cry, cry, and cry some more…

I’ll list the evidence of your unprecedented hypocrisy and let folks judge for themselves:

1. I said (May 8th, 2016 at 3:27 pm) “Who knows, some folks like suffering, I know some dudes who pay hookers just to whip them silly, no sex involved.”

2. Green Lady responded (May 8th, 2016 at 3:58 pm) “I cant wrap my head around it, we have guidelines, yet he seems to get away with murder, dont understand it, and before anyone says anything back at me, yes i have called out certain posters for racism, multiple times ….”

3. Lakie said (May 9th, 2016 at 4:56 am) “Bye VP. Don’t forget your daily enema…”

4. Green Lady responded (May 9th, 2016 at 5:31 am) “… Lakie i enjoy reading posts from you ….”

Note that the post under 1. above is not addressed to any person and is generalized for all masochists, and post under 3. is rather personal. However, our local hypocrite, GL is crying foul and ask for censorship for the former, while enjoying the latter. A bit confusing isn’t it? That women is full of two things – calories (based on her photo she showed us) and hate (based on her posting history here)…

As for Lakie, she evidently lost it! Wog Boy knows better all different nicks she was using here, and that could have been indication that something was wrong (why would one change already anonymous/fake nicknames), but the latest outburst of lame aggression could be attributed to several reasons:

a) Borderline pathological anguish over Djoker’s domination over Federer/Nadal. She even compares Djoker to a vampire, tsk, tsk, tsk, :-( (Note that she doesn’t mind Djoker beating Andy)

b) Latent racism and animosity to Eastern Europeans

c) Severe drought in sexual activity

d) ALL OF THE ABOVE

Hint: look for capital letters in finding the correct answer…


lakie Says:

GL, never cry. That you did cry saddens me. Remember sticks and stones etc…?
Also never apologize. To quote Wodehouse:“It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them.”

I value your posts and I hope you will never stop posting. Just ignore the bullies.


lakie Says:

TB, yes, the right answer is: TB is a CAPITAL ASS!

Do not forget your enema bag!


J-Kath Says:

I feel sorry for Angelina – medically wise. She was very brave.

OKIE: If Rafa is playing against Andy, you can guess who I am favouring. Other times I want him to win against most of the field and I want him Always to take Roger to the cleaners.

The person you mentioned bores me stiff with the darling this and the darling that, and the way she tries to penetrate other people’s personal lives. That said,her tennis remarks are generally astute and overall I know she is a decent person, trying to do her best.

On abusive remarks, there’s been a lot recently….
I like humorous comments….even though they don’t disguise intent…they can be pretty clever sometimes.


Travis Bickle Says:

Ja ja ja, Lakie,

You keep harping about enemas and suggesting them to others. Must be because you cannot do it yourself.
And I know why! Doing enema would prevent you from receiving your favorite thing, Dirty Sanchez. With enema, no mustache for Lakie :-(

For those not familiar with Dirty Sanchez, google it. Not for everyone, but nothing wrong with it for those who enjoy that kind of stuff…


Green Lady Says:

Im a hypocrite, well if that aint the pot calling the kettle black then, never have i heard any one poster using so many personal or sexual slurs, or inuendo in pretty much every single one of their posts, hardly ever talking about anything tennis related, which he believes passes for humour, your obviously lacking something in your own personal life (congratulations as youve now brought me down to your level), as for hating Novak keep beating that drum if you wish, because i repeat i dont, but if you choose to believe otherwise then theres not much i can do about it, and frankly my dear i dont give a damn, THE FAT /CHUBBY GIRL HAS SPOKEN OUT ….


Travis Bickle Says:

Regarding Angelina Jollie, I differ with most here, because I feel sorry for Brad Pitt (or Pita Bread how I like to call him). He has to sleep with that skeleton, and any thrust that is not extremely careful will cause Angelina pelvis to broke and split in two. That would leave Pita Bread without his hummus, so to speak…


Giles Says:

Hearing Murray and Mauresmo have split up.


Okiegal Says:

@J-Kath…….Fair enough! Still friends, I hope??? Oh, btw…..no question who you were cheering for against Andy…I figured that one out on my own!! LOL

I will tone down my remarks not to be abusive and there isn’t a lot of need for humor on here…..I now realize. Some stay away from the forum because it gets away from tennis….I can’t tell you how many poems and songs I have been privy to on this forum……nothing at all to do with tennis….

Mira start posting again, it is your right!!

Bub-bye!!

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