Del Potro Survives, Isner Out; Djokovic, Nadal, Murray On Court Wednesday

by Staff | April 16th, 2013, 5:31 pm
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Juan Martin Del Potro opened his 2013 clay season surviving tough 3-set challenge from shotmaker Alexandr Dolgpolov in the second round at the Monte Carlo Masters today. Del Potro dropped the first set 6-1 to the Ukraine but finally put his game in order to win 1-6, 6-4, 6-3.

John Isner was also stretched to the three sets but the American wasn’t as fortunate as Del Potro. Battling a hip/muscle issue Isner couldn’t hold off Ernests Gulbis losing 4-6, 6-2, 6-3. Isner had just won Sunday in Houston, landed yesterday in Monte Carlo and his body couldn’t last the full match against Gulbis. A late wildcard, Isner collected just over $12,000 for playing in Monte this week.

Meanwhile Gulbis, the last direct entrant into the field, has won 15 of his 16 matches including qualifying. He’ll face Juan Monaco tomorrow.


French favorite Jo-Wilfried Tsonga looked sharp beating Nikolay Davydenko 7-6, 6-2. “It was a pretty good start, but I can do better,” Tsonga said. “I got broken from the start. But I did play a solid match and I was able to manage the situation quite well. I’m happy I won because he can be a very dangerous player. He’s proven it in the past. If I was able to win, it means I was able also to do something good on the court.”

Tsonga’s countryman Gael Monfils was upset by Spanish veteran Albert Montanes in three. Richard Gasquet, Juan Monaco, Stan Wawrinka , Nicolas Almagro and Grigor Dimitrov who upset Janko Tipsarevic were among the other winners today.

“I was just trying to hang into the match,” said Dimitrov after a 7-6, 6-1 win over the Serb. “It’s never easy playing against Janko. Today was one of these days I was really looking forward to coming out on court and actually having a lot of fun, just trying to play good tennis in a way. I fought till the last point in the first set. I gave an extra edge as the match went on. I was very happy with the performance today.”

The eight-ranked Tipsarevic who is just 2-7 in his last nine matches tweeted afterward that he needs a break from tennis.

“Taking some time off…this has nothing to do with forehands and backhands no more…” he tweeted. “By the way…I am not taking a holiday…Just a few days off to clear my mind…”

On a very busy Wednesday, the Top 4 seeds will hit the courts. Top ranked Novak Djokovic tests his gimpy ankle against Russian Mikhail Youzhny. Eight time Monte Carlo champion puts his 42-match win streak at the tournament against Aussie Marinko Matosevic. Andy Murray and Tomas Berdych are also scheduled.

“I don’t feel I am the biggest favorite to win the tournament this year. It’s not easy to win this tournament. I will go day by day,” Nadal said on Monday. “It’s not possible to win every year. Some day that’s going to stop. I will try my best to make that happen, but that’s life. Not everything is forever. But I am very excited to be here and have a high motivation to play well and put myself in position to have a good tournament. I am a candidate if I play my game.”

Nadal seeks a ninth Monte Carlo title.

COURT CENTRAL start 10:30 am
[4] T Berdych (CZE) vs M Granollers (ESP)
M Matosevic (AUS) vs [3] R Nadal (ESP)
[1] N Djokovic (SRB) vs M Youzhny (RUS)
[Q] E Roger-Vasselin (FRA) vs [2] A Murray (GBR)

COURT DES PRINCES start 10:30 am
[12] M Raonic (CAN) vs J Nieminen (FIN)
[Q] A Ramos (ESP) vs F Fognini (ITA)
J Melzer (AUT) vs [10] N Almagro (ESP)
E Gulbis (LAT) vs [14] J Monaco (ARG)


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151 Comments for Del Potro Survives, Isner Out; Djokovic, Nadal, Murray On Court Wednesday

jane Says:

And I am home tomorrow, hurrah; hopefully I can catch some of these without having to wake up at an ungodly hour.


Kimmi Says:

Happy for Grigor. He is going up the ranking nicely.


jane Says:

contador, if you’re reading, check out Bodo’s metaphors for Delpo/Dolgo: “Del Potro is a cake without frosting; Dolgopolov is frosting without cake.” I still prefer your tortoise and hare analogy.


contador Says:

Watching the Dimitrov vs Tipsa rerun match now. Maybe it’s simply I had not noticed before but Grigor has more upper body mass doesn’t he? I mean it is not that his biceps are bulging like Rafa’s. Grigor has always been slender and athletic but hasn’t he put some weight on in the shoulders/torso, or what? He needed more power to climb the ranks, I’d say.

Very good on Gulbis for his win over Isner and helping my bracket a little; but I’m with Daniel hoping that Youzhny stays out late in the casino and Nole gets by in easy straights. I’ll be sighing with relief – ajde Nole!

I thought about using the cake and frosting metaphor on a different thread about Federer, jane, in reference to having no expectations for Federer at his age – having him still playing is the frosting on my cake or….gravy… something like that. :)

Nice to see some emotion from Davydenko. He looked really disgusted with himself for losing to Tsonga, I thought.

Gasquet vs. Paire was just sublime tennis. Really would like to see a Frenchie make some waves at FO – any of them. My future hopes are up for Benoit Paire. Gasquet sure seems to be playing with more confidence this spring, i daresay.


jane Says:

I would have liked to see Gasquet/Paire and Dolgo/Delpo, contador; unfortunately I couldn’t. But I have time to view tomorrow. I won’t be getting up at 2:00 am though; will just have to catch what I can later on.

I forgot about Paire: haven’t seen enough of him to know his future prospects. And yes, I noticed at Miami (or was it IW) that Grigor looks bigger.

Is he really dating Maria?! She’s not that much older, but she is definitely more experienced. Maybe she can give him some tennis advice. Or vice versa?! ;)


Humble Rafa Says:

check out Bodo’s metaphors for Delpo/Dolgo: “Del Potro is a cake without frosting; Dolgopolov is frosting without cake.

Bodo is a writer without a brain. The brain doesn’t care it doesn’t exist in Bodo.


contador Says:

I have heard that rumor, jane (about Maria and Grigor) But I certainly don’t know have a source, jane. :D Maybe Jamie has a link?

Last I knew Grigor was “dating” Serena and Maria was marrying a pro basketball player.

Absolutely nothing would surprise me.

I have the DVR set for 2 am. and I wake up about 6 a.m. and whiz through the recording. Enjoy the matches tomorrow!


Humble Rafa Says:

Serena also dated my dog, my tooth paste and my garbage can. Is there anyone who Serena has not dated?


Alok Says:

@12:13am, I’m sure she’s not dated you and never will. Who fooled you into thinking you have a SOH?

This is one of the most disgusting comments I’ve read on a tennis forum. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you think that writing such sick garbage is funny? It’s amazing the stuff some write hiding behind a moniker.


Ben Pronin Says:

Alright I’m just gonna post here.

Youzhny takes first set. Djokovic playing a little better but Youzhny playing really well. I don’t know how he hits his one hander so well. Hit a back hand down the line on set point that might as well have been a two hander (although it wasn’t a winner it gave him firm control of the point).


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic misses a chance for an easy break. He just lacks intensity. At least, as far as I can tell with my blurry connection, the ankle is fine. His game is still off. But gotta give Youzhny credit, he’s taking his chances and denying Novak his own.


Ben Pronin Says:

My connection became crystal clear just as Djokovic broke and started controlling the match. Coincidence? I hope not because it’s blurry again.

Djokovic more settled in, Youzhny making some more errors. I think Djokovic finding his rhythm is starting to overpower Youzhny. But man oh man. I know I’m usually one to criticize all these old geezers on tour and bash guys like Djokovic for losing to them, but I have to say it’s unfair. These guys really know how to play. And guys like Haas and Youzhny trouble Novak because they have great slices. Similar to Federer and even Murray. I think we (I) often forget that they’re still top pros so it’s not like they can’t play tennis. Gotta give them all huge credit.


Ben Pronin Says:

6-1 second set to Djokovic. Cut out the errors and it made all the difference. His serve is still lacking. Percentage improved but no aces (luckily no double faults either). Needs to improve. Still one set to play.


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic had a chance for a double break and now it’s 3-3. Another dip in form. The worst part is all of his shots are inconsistent. There’s no single problem, everything is going up and down. Youzhny fighting. If this was a 5 setter I’d say no big deal but he only needs one strong push to win this match.


jane Says:

It seems to me like the serve is particularly bad today, but he’s also not sliding. Youz playing pretty well though.


the DA Says:

I think Youzhny could well sneak out a win here. Nole is rather erratic. However, it is Youzhny so who knows?


the DA Says:

Some great tennis in that seventh game.


jane Says:

Youz sure running Nole around, lots of drop shots.


jane Says:

Nole’s first serve percentage is 29% in this set. Can’t push off? I don’t know, but it’s bad! :/


jane Says:

Bad choice by Youz there, with the dropper.


Ben Pronin Says:

Youzhny making a war of this! Colossal hold in the last game. Pressure on Djokovic’s shoulders.

Before I could post that, several games go by and now Djokovic is serving for the match.


the DA Says:

Youzhny plays 2 loose shots and a brainfart dropper to lose serve. Nole closes it out not entirely convincingly but with a look of relief. Those 1st serve stats are a concern but I think he’ll be better tomorrow.


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic seals the deal. Youzhny had 49 errors! Djokovic with 38. Both around 20+ winners. Overall ugly match with some great cat and mouse plays mixed in. Only good thing about Novak’s game is high first serve percentage and great stats at net with 14/18. But other than that way too patchy.

Good news is he makes it through a sturdy test and hopefully he’ll get better with each match. And great news is ankle is fine. I think Murray plays next so I’ll try to watch him, too. Although my connection is getting progressively worse and I missed the last few games in this one.


the DA Says:

Ah, I see that he plays the winner of Gulbis/Monaco. If it’s Gulbis, he could have some trouble (based on today’s play).


jane Says:

Well Nole wins, but unconvincingly, ha ha.

They showed Rafa in the stands.


jane Says:

Ben, double check the first serve percentage. It was abysmal except in set 2, which he won easily. At one point in set 3 it was below 30%. He did raise it up to around 40%, but that won’t cut it against better returners.


Ben Pronin Says:

True, I hadn’t noticed that at first. But Youzhny’s first serve % was probably even worse.

Eh, Gulbis. We’ll see.


jane Says:

Andy about to begin.

Gulbis is down 0-3 with Monaco serving for 4-0.

i see big servers are going down: Anderson, Raonic and Isner are all out.

Melzer beat Nico easily. Jurgen loves Monte Carlo it seems; he often does well here.

Fabio continues to win, and Wawa blasted Montanes. I read that Wawa hired a new coach. Magnus Norman, Soda pop’s old coach. I miss Soderling.


Brando Says:

Well atleast his ankle is perfectly fine. He said he’ll play if he is 100% and thankfully he is. His form? Well let’s be honest here: post Dubai he has hardly been spectacular has he.


jane Says:

Ben, Youz’s first serve percentage was better than Nole’s in set 1 and marginally better in set 3, but worse in set 2. When Nole’s serve clicks, it’s like his whole game improves.


jane Says:

Looking like a bagel for Ernie.


Wog boy Says:

I am glad it is over, relif for Nole but for me too. His face at the end of the match said it all.
Andy is about to start, but Nole wore me out, sorry Andy I have to record you.


Brando Says:

@the DA: no way Ernie troubles nole on clay- ever! On HC, and this nole, for sure he is a real threat. But on clay Ernie just doesn’t cut it. Clay suits those with the ability to be patient and wait for their chances. Ernie and patience just do not go together.


Ben Pronin Says:

Gulbis has learned patience. He beat Fed on clay, so I’d say troubling Djokovic isn’t out of the question. Will he get there though…

Djokovic wasn’t spectacular in Dubai, either. Outside of his losses he was fairly fantastic in Indian Wells and Miami. Romped on Rosol real good.

In any case. We’ll see what happens. I think he’ll get better. Plus Youzhny has always been a tricky match up for him. Monaco could be just what the doctor ordered. Give him some rhythm.


jane Says:

Ernie *can play well on clay (on any surface really) Brando but he’s not right now! I believe he beat Fed at Rome one year, reached the finals and took a set off Rafa, if I am not mistaken. ATP site is not letting me check right now.


Wog boy Says:

jane,

Keep in mind that Nole basicaly didn’t have any preparation for clay season, this match was start of his preparation for CC, literally. If he can go one or two more matches that would fine considering everything.


Brando Says:

Yeah, just remembered he did trouble Rafa at Rome in 2010. Forgot about that one. Beating Fed? When was that? LOL, Ernie is an interesting case. Very talented but so much waste that one forgets about the good moments.


jane Says:

Wog boy, true, good point. Not too concerned except for the serve. It’d be good if he could get in a couple matches anyhow. I agree.

Murray breaks immediately.


Ben Pronin Says:

Murray pretty relaxed. Hitting clean. Roger-Vasselin really isn’t someone who should trouble him. One way traffic.


the DA Says:

So far Andy’s striking the ball well, some blistering returns. Has a break.


jane Says:

The DA are you in the UK? Avoiding most channels on your TV today? ;)


jane Says:

Andy playing well! Hope we get to see a Murray/Rafa semifinal. It’s been a while since the one 3 setter they played here.


the DA Says:

@jane – Not in the UK. But there’s no escaping what they showed on the channels there. ;)


jane Says:

I guess not DA; it’s all over the news here too.

Hmm, bit of a blip in that game for Andy.

Just checked scores; it appears Ernie woke up.


jamie Says:

Not a surprise. The first month of the clay season won’t be peachy for Nole. That period also includes Madrid…. After Madrid he might finally win a title on clay, Rome. But for RG things won’t be peachy again… Bottom line, Nole might win Rome but at all the other clay tournaments he has *things going on against him* if you know what I mean.


the DA Says:

Murray takes the first set 6-1. Apart from giving up one of the breaks, I like what I’m seeing. This is the best I’ve seen him play in a first clay match of the season.

Jane, who did Raonic lose to?


contador Says:

Tense moments in that Djokovic Match.

Phew! glad he made it past Youzhny. I was feeling the pressure from the “shot clock”on his 1st serve.

Go Andy!


jane Says:

DA, he lost to Jarkko Nieminen.

Ernie takes set 2 after being bageled.


Giles Says:

Gulbis beat fed in Rome 2010 second round.


jane Says:

And did Gulbis then reach the final and take a set off Rafa?


the DA Says:

Nieminen? Really? That’s not good. Andy gets the break in the 2nd (and apologizes for his ball skidding off the line).


jane Says:

DA, it did go three sets, including Milos winning one of them 6-1, but then he lost the 3rd set in … what else .. a tiebreaker.


Giles Says:

Rafa bt Gulbis in the semis of Rome 2010, 3 sets. Rafa bt Ferrer in the final


contador Says:

dear me. my pick Raonic went out to Niemenen.

Beautiful lob by Vasselin.

Come on, Andy make this match short!


jane Says:

Thanks Giles. I can’t get ATP site to work for some reason.

But Gulbis can play well on clay; also played a heckuva match versus Nole at FO 2008. I loved watching it. Very exciting.


Daniel Says:

I agree with Ben, Djoko will get better. 2011 he was in crushing mode, but latelly he is playing as good as his oponent and when the pressur moments come he raises his level. Of course agaisnt a DelPo it didn’t work. He is having this “losing leads” way to often for my taste. God a good win after 2 hours and if he is to face Nadal hope he doesn’t play to much 3 setters because all his oponents from now on can still a set (apart from Berdych in a possible semis). But if he reaches final I think we will have a cracker of a match.

He is probably dying for a good win, good title after IW and Miami and nothing than doing the impossible (beating Nadal in MC final) will suit him better. If he played he is fit to play and if he thinks he can’t handle Nadal, he can tank later.

I know, this guys don’t tank, but their mindset changes from match to match and that can impact their game.

We will know better in later matches. But he needs a clean 2 setter next round.

Glad Murray is having a great start of clay so far. He is due this for a long time. Clay being a surface that re wards more point construction and allows time for defence it’s odd to not see Murray having more success (maybe due to his more passive style in the past). He also wants to do the impossible in his first meeting with Nadal since a long time. Now he is a Slam champion and Nadal didn’t play this version of Murray yet.


alison Says:

Gulbis has been give a point penalty for racquet abuse,after going a break down,he might be talented but i never have liked the guy,what a creep,who seems to think hes doing the world a favour because he chose to play tennis,hope Pico can come through this match,go Pico.


contador Says:

Gulbis’ best year 2010 CC season.

A Bit of a stretch to say Ernests Gulbis has “learned patience”

He has a little more patience, maybe. Still he’s a racket mangler. And in his mind, i am guessing, he thinks he should beat Monaco, which is the right attitude. Ernie will be frustrated with himself losing to Juan, i’d imagine. I have no way of watching that match. Tennis channel doing the right thing and showing Murray v Vasselin.

The score line for Gulbis is not looking good. I wonder if he is still even trying or what in the decider.

Time violation for Murray but he holds serve. C’mon Muzz, one more game…

They are really serious about enforcing the time violation rule.


the DA Says:

More nonsense with the time violation rule. Vasselin was playing with his strings while Andy waited for him to stop – and he gets penalized! hehe


contador Says:

You are spot on, alison about Gulbis’ personality.

Still I’m programmed to cheer for the brat, even though my bracket needs Pico to win.

I think for me it is about feeling that EG is very talented and I do want him keep playing and win. But no, the guy is downright rude on court from what I saw of him at IW.


the DA Says:

Andy through in straight sets. Nice and efficient. Liked the purposeful ball striking. He’ll need it against Wawa – I expect that one to be tough.


contador Says:

Yay Andy. That was good tennis this morning. Well, other than feeling a bit anxious during Nole’s match.

Solid start from Andy.


jane Says:

contador, I agree about EG. He has so much potential that I always keep hoping. But no doubt he’s a brat.

Good for Andy keeping it short today.

Daniel, enjoyed your thoughts on Nole and Andy.


alison Says:

Contador i dont like his attitude towards the fairer sex either,from what ive read in his interviews hes such a sleazeball,although i do except hes a talented tennis player,and when hes on hes great to watch,still cant root for him though sorry.


Brando Says:

Wawa will be ALOT tougher. In all honesty: that is a 50/50 match IMO. Wawa was RU at Rome once- so he knows what to do on a clay court! Nice start by Andy though.


contador Says:

Gulbis’ tennis has a certain appeal.

But Pico only needs one more game – serve it out Pico


the DA Says:

Regarding Gulbis, we know where he gets that temper. There was a recent story about his father throwing hot coffee into a waiter’s face because breakfast wasn’t being served. The waiter has impaired vision in one eye.


alison Says:

Nice solid match from Andy,this is the best ive seen Andy play on clay in ages,didnt see Rafa or Novaks games unfortunatly,so i will try to catch the highlights tonight.


jane Says:

^ OMG DA, never heard that; what an awful thing. :(


alison Says:

The DA like father like son,what a couple of idiots.


alison Says:

Hooray well done Pico.


the DA Says:

Jane – it happened at a tournament in Austria. Apparently the players on court heard the waiter’s screams. His punishment? A 11,000 euro fine.


jane Says:

It’s so sad and unfair – wow.


alison Says:

what a joke,a man loses an eye,and a billionaire gets fined 11,000 euros which is nothing to a guy like that,what a total jerk,theres no justice in the world.


Giles Says:

Wawa’s new coach is Magnus Norman. Am not sure whether they have already started the partnership.


the DA Says:

In other news, it was announced today that Murray and Henman will team up to play Berdych and…Lendl in a charity doubles match at Queens – all to raise money for the cancer hospital that’s treating Ross Hutchins. Should be a fun spectacle.


jane Says:

Yes, I posted that at 10:40. Apparently they’ve already begun working together:

http://www.tennisworldusa.org/ATP—Stanislas-Wawrinka-to-begin-working-with-Magnus-Norman-articolo9411.html


jane Says:

DA, and a nice cause.


Brando Says:

Wow what a complete a’hole ernie’s father is for doing that! Wish the waiter punched him in his eye- tit for tat. He loses his eye for his precious coffee, well your face gets rearranged for his eye. Heck, someone from the locker room should have stood up for the waiter as that is some BS. I absolutely HATE when people do not do the right thing just cause they face someone with power. 11,000 fine- pathetic stuff by the officials. This isn’t a parking offense: who took the eye of a employee for no friggin reason!


Margot Says:

The comms just left us with the throwaway line, “Andy has never beaten Stan on clay.”
Oh joy, gotta love ’em….


the DA Says:

@Brando – yeah, it also made me angry.I hate it when people with money think they’re above the law.

And you’ll love this little tidbit. A reporter just tweeted that Matosevic knocked over Rafa’s water bottles while trailing 2-5 in the 2nd set. Rafa just smiled and laughed towards his box. I wondered what that smile was all about. Apparently it was something Matosevic had always wanted to do. hehe


Brando Says:

@Margot: LOL, they do know how to breed confidence don’t they? Like I said it is a 50/50 match since Wawa isn’t a walkover on clay at all. It’ll be a close affair IMO, with it representing a good challenge for Andy. Should be a good one.


the DA Says:

@Margot – there you are! Bet you’re happy with that start, eh? As for Wawa, the last time they met on clay was 2008 – and we know Andy isn’t the same player. I expect it to be tough but you never know.


nadalista Says:

RT @SI_BTBaseline: “Per @nicklester, Matosevic went and knocked over Nadal’s water bottles at 5-2 in the second set. Rafa looked to box, smiled, shrugged. #atp”

Hahahaha! Good on you, Matosevic, on acting out your fantasy…

I didn’t see that incident, tbh, but it’s all over the twitterverse…..


nadalista Says:

RT @SI_Baseline: “Classic. Looked over and smiled at Rafa after. RT @nicklester @SI_BTBaseline apparently it was something he has always wanted to do”


alison Says:

The DA nice story about the Rafa match lol,thanks for sharing.


the DA Says:

Here’s a YouTube clip. It happens around the 2:19 mark. You don’t see them being kicked over, only Rafa’s reaction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GdCmGJv_xk


Daniel Says:

The DA,

Every since Nadal started with his bottle thing I was thought with myself: why on earth nobody ever hitted that, or even direct the ball to it “unintentioanlyl”, just to see how Rafa would react?!

Maybe his smile was? Do I unleash the bull and teach this guy a lesson? After his bumb into Rosol, who is way bigger than Nadal he seems to be a guy who is not going to run from a fight:)


Brando Says:

@the DA:

LOL re Matosevic. Why not I guess. Must have been a good moment for a giggle for those looking on.

Re the Jerk:

I’m with you on that. NO MATTER what the politicians or the so called powers that be try to have us believing, the world is pretty much the same as it has been at any other stage:

People respect power more than the dignity of others. And those with power (mainly money and the influence it can gain) get a free ride on ALOT of various instances that is just outright disgusting. Especially in comparison to the weak and helpless: those who the law should help empower as opposed to making them lambs for slaughter as the weak, pathetic officials did with that poor waiter!

Double standards basically: one rule for them and another for us. But please believe that everyone get’s treated equally in the eye of the law. We can’t let reality leak through the BS. Oh no.

The world is just one great Disney movie right?


Brando Says:

@the DA:

Thanks for the footage. Rafa seemed to have handled that one pleasantly- lovely giggle at it! :-)

Missed the match, but that highlight clip was so pleasing to see. Just what i wish from Rafa as his fan:

Slick, sharp movment, deep length on his shots, down the line shots, point construction and running the match with his FH.

Brilliant stuff and start from the master of clay!

And above all else: the joyful look of a man happy to do what he loves more than anything else: compete in the sport he loves!

VAMOS RAFA!


Ben Pronin Says:

Yeah Rafa looked great in those few minutes. Forehand as ferocious as ever.

Kinda wonder how he’d react in a tight match, though. Doubt he’d just smile and shrug…


Brando Says:

@Daniel:

LOL, NO ONE would run away from a fight if they had Rafa’s physique.

I think it was JOHN MCENROE who said that Rafa is freak of a specimen:

He has the body that could easily see him be a 100/200m sprinter or a middle weight boxer.

And when you think about it: 6’1 or 6’2 height, those muscles- arms specifically, powerful body yet lightening quick reflexes and movement- er i doubt many would want to mess with a guy like that, LOL!

Andy Murray is another: he is built like a tank. Amazing to see considering Muzza circa 2005/2007.


Ben Pronin Says:

I don’t think Nadal is that strong. Not in the arms, anyway.


contador Says:

haha, I wonder how his internet fans and Rafa would be reacting if that was Federer knocking over RN’s bottles….lols


Brando Says:

@Ben:

I doubt ANY player would be brave enough to try asking that question of Rafa.

IF someone did though, I would love it to be TOMAS BERDYCH.

I suspect i know the reaction that a few Berdych admirer’s on here would want from Rafa in that case.

Certainly now what Skeezer would be hoping from Rafa in that instance! :-)


Brando Says:

@Contador:

Pleased. It would show MATS WILANDER that RF does have balls when Rafa is across the net. Cancel the medical checkup Mats! :-)


Ben Pronin Says:

I’d love it to be Djokovic. No love lost there already.


contador Says:

I know. Brando. I mean I would love it ! It would be so out of character for Federer too….ppl would have to lol


Daniel Says:

Brando,

If Nadal sometimes looks like he will eat you alive on a tennis court, imagine with the adrenaline high in a middle of a fight?! Damm, that would be something, kind of if somebody messes with Xisca:)

But I heard a joke here in Brazil when I started playing tennis way back, that some consider tennis and volleyball “fag” sports because you are protected by a net, not having contact man to man, like most of the teams sports and others sports. Damm that pissed me off, because those are the ones I am better at.


jane Says:

contador, lol, now that would be something to see! Can’t see Fed doing it though.


contador Says:

jane, can’t you just imagine it?

Federer and Nadal having a serious tennis mandbag fight….hahahahha


contador Says:

tennis “manbag” fight. :D

truly Beavis and Butthead humor, sorry.


Brando Says:

@Ben:

Djokovic?

God no!

Novak would end up in the morgue in that instance!

So unbelievably skinny as he is already, and yeah, Rafa would definitely let out any frustration from 2011 in that scenario.

LOL, for Novak’ sake, best not let that happen!


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic is ridiculously skinny… But like I said I don’t think Nadal is that strong. Murray, on the other hand, phew, wouldn’t mess with him.


Brando Says:

@Contador:

LOL yeah, no more Mr Serene and cool! :-)

Fed though, i think, is a pretty strong guy.

From afar he seems to have a really strong upper body.

And in a few moments on court: he did seem to let out a rage. Could be a dangerous guy that Fed.

DO NOT be fooled by his constant caressing of his hair! ;-)


Brando Says:

@Daniel:

LOL.

Yeah, you can tell Rafa is a highly emotional guy. Should someone mess with his women then yeah: in a rage he’ll definitely make them regret they even met her!

The emotional one’s a highly dangerous: when they explode, usually all sorts of damage is the end result.

And then a guy like Rafa?

The bull becomes the RAGING BULL!


contador Says:

I think if Federer and Nadal were actually using their tennis rackets on each other it would get seriously bad. hahahahaha…..


Brando Says:

@Ben:

Agree re Novak. Very strangely skinny. Somewhat surprised considering the build of the other successful player’s.

Rafa not being that strong?

LOL, you might be on your own on that one!

But yeah: Muzza is a tank. Period.

A good fight to see for me would be:

– Top 4: Rafa v Muzza- the Heavyweight contest. The RAGING BULL v TACTICAL WIZARD!

– Ferrer V Tipsy: The lightweight contest. THE TERRIER v MR UNSTABLE

– Fed v Nole: the handbags at dawn contest: MS LOREAL v THE DJOKER.

I’d pay PPV for those fights! :-)


Brando Says:

@Contador:

LOL.

Like i said: a few times Fed got angry on court he did seem to let out a rage.

Apparently he was a bit of a hot headed guy as a youngster.

One guy who would be a blast from the past: MARAT SAFIN.

Remember when he turned up at the AO (i think) supporting a black eye?

He said he had a fight at a club… and he won.

What a legend!


contador Says:

I bet Federer would really go at it :D


Ben Pronin Says:

If you’re going to claim Nadal is so strong because his arms are built well then you might as well say he’s on steroids.

He just has a natural physique like that. Very lucky of him. But that doesn’t mean there’s a ton of force behind those guns. He’s a tennis player, their strength doesn’t come from their arms. Not to say Nadal can’t throw a helluva punch. With his torque strength he’d do plenty of damage. But not as much as you think.


Brando Says:

LOL, I would back Fed to beat Nole.

Quick feet, reflexes, stamina plus the stronger upper body.

Fed would be the winner in about 6 rounds- DEFINITELY the only guy with a chance of a TKO.

Nole, however, may win on points should it go the distance: work rate, constant jabbing and working over the opponent.

A good fight that would be- and something tells me they wouldn’t mind that one either based on their past record of love for one another! :-)


contador Says:

It was funny seeing a couple lightweight cyclist climbers knocking each other a few years ago and the end of a TdF stage.

one skinny guy took his wheel of the front of his bicycle and hit the other guy over the head with the wheel…from there it was “gloves off” lol


contador Says:

“off”


Brando Says:

@Ben:

LOL, i knew the steroid comment wasn’t far from your mind.

Like i said: you might be the only one sharing that idea.

I bet you wouldn’t like to test your theory out yourself would you though? :-)

I think it was LLEYTON HEWITT who said that a lot of the guys in the locker room get impacted by the PHYSICALITY Rafa projects on court (intentional or not):

the jumping up and down at the coin toss like a boxer, then running off to the baseline, his power and size etc.

All this play’s on their mind: that they are playing some beast on the other side of the court.

Hence: it’s no surprise that guy’s in the locker room liken him to a bull, lion, king of the jungle etc.


Ben Pronin Says:

I’d love to fight Nadal. Absolutely.

He projects physicality on the court. You don’t think the other top 4 do? Even skinny-men Federer and Djokovic. Despite their size or lack-thereof, they are physical beasts. And none of the other players can touch them. Federer isn’t as strong as he once was but he was the fittest guy on tour in his prime by far.


alison Says:

I dont condone violence,but i remember Kevin Keegan of Liverpool FC and Billie Bremnar of Leeds United having a punch up on the pitch one day,KK saying to the ref oh come of it Bob man ive done F*CK all ive been hit twice,both guys were sent off,but both men said afterwards they had a good laugh about it,and actually became good mates with each other lol.


contador Says:

A good punch-up in tennis between the top 4 might be what tennis needs here in the USA; though I don’t condone violence either, alison. Just saying…it would be not only surprising but shocking!

I’d pay to see Ben vs Rafa


alison Says:

I also remember Cantonas kung fu kick on a fan,when Man Utd played against Crystal Palace at Old Trafford,again i dont condone violence but it was worth it to see that idiot fan get a lifetime ban,somehow i cant imagine pretty boy Beckham ever doing something like that,Cantona what a player,and what a legend,remember the night eh Brando? :-)))…


alison Says:

Contador eh whos Ben?


alison Says:

Oh bloody hell sorry our tennis-x Ben lol DUH,yeah me too LMAO.


Brando Says:

@Ben:

Go ben!

Letting out all those year’s of frustration and angst from the losses Rafa heaped on your fav by throwing some blows to the man they call the beast.

I like it.

And i would definitely love to see it.

I’d probably even root for you: TX all the way baby! :-p


contador Says:

Ben Pronin from tennis-x, alison :D


alison Says:

The DA has really started something here lol.


Brando Says:

@Alison:

Oh ah Cantona!

What’s hong kong phoey infront of King Eric?

NOTHING! :-)


alison Says:

Contador realised after id sent the post DUH :D


contador Says:

The real alberto contador would kick thier asses! :D

5’9″, 135 lbs solid muscle.


alison Says:

Brando i loved that guy,even though he was just about the most arrogant footballer ever:),same with Jose as a manager:),used to love Di Canio till i heard what he had said recently,not nice :(((…


Daniel Says:

I would like to see the guy who shared my name, Daniel Koereler fight anybody, but he was banned. We almost got to see him and Roddick once. That guy just pissed everybody of, but he was strong, and crazy fellow, asking for a spanking:)

Safin!! He looked like he could beat 3 guys at once…

Agree with you Ben, there where some photos of Nadal’s chest and he is not that strong, not proportional, like Tsonga for example. Also too mcuh chest muscle affetct your motion, that is way tennis players anre never that build on top.

I start working out a lot lattely and got bigger on top and arms, my forehand and serve changed a bit, kind of I few heavy and not loose as before. MAybe just old:(


alison Says:

Brando that was my favorite cartoon as a little kid,but HKF as you say has nothing on Eric(THE KING)Cantona,i miss that guys football.


courbon Says:

@ Alison: I remember that well!And I meet Cantona in Arles, Provence ( where my wife is from and Cantona around there )drunk on the street, also myself drunk, and he was very funny.Talking lots of rubish but funny…speaks with ‘Alo, Alo’ accent


Ben Pronin Says:

Oh man how can I forget Tsonga? Tsonga vs Murray! Now there’s a heavy weight battle.

I used to think Safin was really strong, too, but then he got that black eye in a bar fight and I thought, yeah, he’s a chump :D


alison Says:

Courbon loved Eric,and im so envious of you,i would never would have thought he would have much of a sense of humour,sooo sexy too,and a much better footballer and much better looking than namby pamby pretty boy David Beckham,who IMO is vastly overated in both departments,miss Eric the king Cantona Legend,although i wish he had stayed at Leeds UTD LOL.


Ben Pronin Says:

http://longislandtennismagazine.com/article5261/mens-tennis-too-predictable-these-days

Good read. Pretty true. I mean we all love our faves but I’d love to see someone breakout out of nowhere. Even Murray winning his first slam was kind of “well this was so expected it barely registers” kind of thing.


alison Says:

Courbon love his accent too,the french accent is very sexy on a man.


courbon Says:

@ Alison: Unfortunatelly, I have been talking English for 20 years, so even now, when I’m learning French I don’t think I’ll get that accent on my English…damn!


courbon Says:

@ Alison: beckham was ( is ) overrated-Ryan Gigs much better, Gerrad also…


alison Says:

Courbon lol yeah damn,im still struggling with English my self,i live in Norfolk and some of the old dears where i work struggle with my broard Yorkshire accent which could cut glass its so common,but then again i am common lol.


alison Says:

Courbon yeah Gigsy loved the hair,and Stevie.G,also Henry,Lundberg used to like Di Canio till he said what he said recently not nice,not good :(


the DA Says:

“Even Murray winning his first slam was kind of “well this was so expected it barely registers” kind of thing.”

So expected? I disagree. It was almost becoming predictable that he’d fall at the final hurdle. That’s why he had such huge support in Arthur Ashe that night. You could sense they were invested in seeing him finally getting the monkey off his back and willing him on. The twitterverse that night went nuts not just from fans but active and retired players. It definitely registered.

“I’d love to see someone breakout out of nowhere”

So would I but it’s not the fault of the big four that nobody has stepped up to the plate. As for ‘too predictable’ could anyone have predicted the 2nd half of last year? I think there are signs that a couple of surprises are in store this summer.


Ben Pronin Says:

Yeah but now that Murray has bagged his slam what has changed? When someone refers to the big 4, there’s no asterisk. Murray has been a fixture in the final few days of the slams for almost as long as Djokovic. He’s a part of “oh it’s those same exact 4 guys again.” Sure he had huge support, and he deserved it. But if he wins another one? Big deal? I don’t know.

It’s not negatively the top 4’s fault. It’s obviously somewhat their fault for being so good, right? But the article mentions the uniform surfaces, which we’ve all discussed a million times. That’s the tournaments’ faults, and ATPs, and ITFs. Who do you expect to make a big splash this summer?


Margot Says:

@ Brando
Apparently Andy is very fast over 100 metres, revealed when he was talking about Mo Farah and saying how much he admires, and finds inspirational, Mo, who can run as fast last lap of a marathon!
Lol guys, as Andy’s favourite sport is boxing, not a good idea to mess with him, AND those legs… perhaps he should take up kick boxing?
Loving the idea of handbags at dawn btw :)
@ the DA
Yes, an excellent start but A’s always found Beefy Boy trixie…..ooer…


alison Says:

Margot hes an admire of Mo,and hes a fan of bowing Davi Haye(the haymaker)is a good friend of Andys.


the DA Says:

Yes, I get the uniform surfaces perspective and I agree. I wish they’d use a faster surface at the USO. But the question remains: why have only four players adapted to the uniform surfaces better than everyone else? Several players have had more time on them than Nadal/Nole/Andy. It’s strange.

Rather than expecting someone to make a big splash, I’m anticipating one or more of the big four to be upset. Call it a hunch based on what I’ve seen so far….and I DON’T use astrologers ;)


jane Says:

At least now it’s the big FOUR and not just the big one or two, like it was from 2004-2007. To me, it’s much better to have four (or 5) potential slam winners, than 1 or 2.

And when were all the surfaces made uniform. Can we pinpoint that? Just wondering; sincere question.


the DA Says:

@jane – I agree that it’s better with more potential winners. I don’t know if there is any “when” that can be pinpointed but it is clear that gradually most surfaces have become roughly the same speed. IMHO. The AO & IW aren’t dissimilar; Miami played like a clay court.. It seems that Cincy & Shanghai are the only med to fast surfaces.


jane Says:

the DA, it is evident that we need more fast surfaces. During this last DC tie between Serbia and USO, that was a fast hard court. Indoor mind you, but the play was noticeably different and not such a grind. WTFs are slow too you think?

I think even back in 2006-7 the surfaces were more varied but that’s why I was asking. I don’t think IW and Miami used to be as slow as they are now did they?


contador Says:

I have always for variations in surfaces. Their skills and ability should be tested by different conditions: altitude, surfaces, indoors, outdoors, hot, humid…windy…

Agree with author in Ben Pronin’s above link. Having all surfaces and venues the same isn’t tennis.


contador Says:

“have always been for variations…”


the DA Says:

Jane – I think the WTFs could be a little faster (but not if Raonic ever makes it there ;) ) I enjoyed the DC court as well as Bercy that one year when it was fast. That shook things up a little, Llodra was exceptional.

But here’s the scary thing: I bet most of the Big 4 would still dominate even on faster surfaces! Maybe not Nadal but you know what I mean? Nole didn’t seem that uncomfortable in Boise. I know that Roger & Andy don’t mind it faster.


jane Says:

I agree, I think most of them would actually relish the faster courts. Nole, Murray and Fed all usually do well in Shanghai and Cincy. And even though it was partly down to being efficient due to the ankle roll as well as Sam’s shoulder, Nole played well in Boise.

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