Roger Federer Out A Month After Undergoing Knee Surgery To Repair Torn Meniscus

Unfortunately, this could be career ending for Fed – especially at his age. this might be his last year on tour. He will probably return for the clay season and avoid hard courts in Indian Wells too – he has enough points to remain top 4 till wimbledon. returning on clay and then grass would be smarter. Hardly anyone comes back to full speed after even this type of knee surgery.

Looks like 17 is going to be his final number.

February 3rd, 2016 at 8:53 am

Meniscus gets worn/torn over time. Then one bad twist can seem as if that caused it – but this has probably been brewing for a time, without symptoms.

This is a bad one. No way to be back to 100% after this, since they usually remove some or all of the torn meniscus leaving bone on bone.

With 1300 matches, its not surprising.

February 3rd, 2016 at 8:57 am

Get well soon fed.

February 3rd, 2016 at 9:22 am

Shame about Fed. “Poetry in motion.”

February 3rd, 2016 at 9:27 am

Hope roger will recover as soon as possible..we still need him to stop novak..God knows he ran amok right now!

February 3rd, 2016 at 9:42 am

Oh yes. Joker will certainly be running amuck now. Sooooo lucky.

February 3rd, 2016 at 9:47 am

some hobby doctors here predicting fed careers end

hahahahaha

February 3rd, 2016 at 10:00 am

James, what are you talking about? Arthroscopic surgery is as routine as it gets for athletes nowadays. Look at how many NFL players are still running around with the same and worse surgeries.

Not only that, but Federer can afford the best doctors in the world. They either sewed up the tear or removed the meniscus all together. Either way, recovery shouldn’t be a big issue. A month or so of rehab and he’ll be fine. Far from career ending considering it’s not even season ending.

February 3rd, 2016 at 10:34 am

@AndyMira and Giles – well Dubai is the one tournament where the title seems to go back and forth between Fed and Djoker, so I guess it’s Djoker’s year for it.

February 3rd, 2016 at 10:54 am

Fed will be fine. Considering his overall fitness level, age (possibly old for tennis but young overall), discipline with fitness routines which would carry over to any PT he has to do, and wealth to pay for the best doctors, he is going to bounce back fast.

February 3rd, 2016 at 10:57 am

good luck to fed in his recovery.

i wonder how he injured it?
it says here, the day *after* the semi.

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:00 am

Hmmh..i tend to agree with Ben..no active players who got multiple surgeries like rafa did,and he still running around albeit a little bit slower this days..and roger’s body way too healthy than rafa..so i would say he would lift a trophy sometime soon..

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:02 am

It depends on the degree of damage to the meniscus. From Federer’s message, it did not sound quite severe. If they did a repair, that means that they sutured the torn segments of the meniscus together. He should do well with proper rehabilitation. Bone-on-bone means the meniscus has been damaged so much that it can no longer be repaired. The pad afforded to the knees by the meniscus is no longer there, hence, bone on bone. This is the most severe form. It does not sound like this is what Federer had.

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:05 am

After reading this statement from a doctor on the subject, I would say that Federer will be careful and skip Indian Wells, no matter how good his doctors are. He still has a human body like all of us.

No second chances: A re-torn meniscus will not likely be salvaged. This means athletes have one chance to allow full healing. Tearing the meniscus again during the early stages of rehab destroys the chances of the structure ever fully healing.

A re-torn meniscus will not likely be salvaged. This means athletes have one chance to allow full healing. Tearing the meniscus again during the early stages of rehab destroys the chances of the structure ever fully healing.

1.No second chances: A re-torn meniscus will not likely be salvaged. This means athletes have one chance to allow full healing. Tearing the meniscus again during the early stages of rehab destroys the chances of the structure ever fully healing.

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:07 am

Oops. I did not mean to post that, 3 times. Sorry about that.

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:08 am

A torn meniscus never “fully” heals, though.

I do think skipping Indian Wells is on the table but he wouldn’t have to play until at least a week into March, so he does have time.

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:14 am

I think people are forgetting one huge factor in all of this. I have heard many basketball players like Derek Rose as one example, even Rafa has talked about the pyschological aspect of not feeling 100% confident about the knee even after it has healed. Pyschologically getting over that and being able to trust your knee 100 percent of the time during a match and not have to worry about it. This is something that takes time after the physical healing process is finished. It’s easy to doubt any part of your body after a surgery or a break of a bone. Anything that happens to the body, takes time to trust it again.

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:15 am

Famous Skier Pirmin Zurbriggen had the same injury back in 1985. He had laser operation and in 9 days or 10 he went to win Kitzbühel on 11 January and then again on 12 Jaunary. He was 22 but with today medicine i think Roger will be perfectly fine in less then 20 days.

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:17 am

DRose also got injured a bunch more times after his first injury. He’s also a wanker.

Nadal never had knee surgery.

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:23 am

Nadal never had Knee surgery and still had to mentally learn to trust his knees. So that say it all right there. Re-injury can happen very easily as well from what I have been reading.

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:25 am

Sorry, my bad.

http://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/01/13/World-Cup-leader-Pirmin-Zurbriggen-who-injured-his-left/3365474440400/

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:25 am

@RZ,if djoker win this year..it’s ok also..i just wants to see a competitive tournament and a different winner this time..but maybe wawa will give him some fight?We wish..

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:41 am

Thanks, Nikola. That was a freakish accident after crossing the finish line in Kitzbuhel. I met Pirmin Zubriggen in Las Lenas, Argentina. Summer training season Aug. 1991 when the Swiss team was training there. I spent an afternoon free skiing with them – thrill of my life! My 15 minutes of fame. :)

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:53 am

Federinas/tards reporting.
Kids been knocking Dad about?
This is worrying because indeed, it might be the beginning of the end, and being realistic, the end has been proceeding gently over the past few seasons. Roger has been injured or ill on several occasions (I’ve never ascribed to him being otherwise) and he’s played through many forms of discomfort out of commitment to the tournaments and the fans, respect for opponents who quite frankly don’t enjoy winning a match through retirement, and through love of the game and of course, pride.
In the grand scheme of things when people around us are falling prey to all manner of awful occurrences it doesn’t seem that important but I do feel sorry for the fans and I feel sorry for me, madmax, skeezer and the rest as we’ll miss Roger’s fabulous shot making and remarkable movement. I hope Rog doesn’t come back so early that there could be detriment to his game.

February 3rd, 2016 at 12:18 pm

Best of luck Roger with the surgery,and the recovery,given that he plays such an effortless style of tennis,hopefully he will be fine,i doubt its career threatening,as Tom Gainey said other players came back successfully after their surgeries,so i wouldnt think Federer will be any different,GOOD LUCK FEDERER….

February 3rd, 2016 at 12:27 pm

I think it likely that Federer hurt the knee during the AO or just before it. Saying he hurt the knee before he played Novak would have come off as him making excuses. Just my pet theory.

February 3rd, 2016 at 12:35 pm

Roger may be able to use this the right way. He’ll have a lot more in the tank for the Olympics, Wimbledon and the USO.

February 3rd, 2016 at 12:37 pm

Best wishes for Roger’s recovery. I was sort of wondering how Dubai would work out for him and if he could stop the Djuggernaut there on a fast court, once again.
Indian Wells starts Mar 7th and that might be pushing it if Fed keeps it in his schedule. I trust Roger Federer and his team not to do anything stupid regarding health and recover though. They have been at this a long time.

I expected some attrition to Novak’s point standing, but with Roger recovering and Andy Murray out for paternity time perhaps ’till Miami or even clay season starts – Novak likely will add to his point margin over Roger & Andy. Perhaps enough “lap” all the other players on Tour. Have more than double the points of anyone else. Has that been done in the Open Era??

Eventually, of course, Djokovic will see his margin over the field shrink a bit as it would be hard to outdo the “every Final from AO on” 2015 success story.

February 3rd, 2016 at 1:26 pm

SG1, agreed. It’s nice to think that Federer doesn’t want to undermine his opponents. It is hella strange that he would’ve torn it the day after his semi.

A meniscus tear, especially if it’s not overly severe which seems to be the case, isn’t like an ACL or MCL tear. Chances are he was feeling some discomfort and then had it looked at after his tournament was over.

February 3rd, 2016 at 1:38 pm

It took 34 years of age for Fed to be knocked out with a knee problem (hopefully temporarily). No complaints here. GOAT career. Rest up, enjoy the kids, and hopefully he can give Oly another shot before he is done.

February 3rd, 2016 at 1:57 pm

@Chrisford1 – If Djoker wins Dubai, he would gain points as he was runner up last year. Fed is losing points from Dubai while Murray will be losing points from not playing Rotterdam, but he only made the QF last year so looks like he’ll stay #2.

I’m assuming both Fed and Murray will be back for Indian Wells, but if either skips that tournament it will affect the point standings.

February 3rd, 2016 at 2:07 pm

Good recovery Roger-best wishes from this Nole fan…

February 3rd, 2016 at 2:17 pm

Hi Courbon ;))….

February 3rd, 2016 at 2:32 pm

Hi Gypsy,
sorry I could not talk on Sunday but I got stupidly drunk.I had a couple of beers during the match, then my neighbour come to congratulate ( and tease me- he loves Fed ) with me and we had some Armangiac and…anyway,I’m looking foward to this season (for obvious reason that Novak is doing well so far but I’m ready when he start loosing ) and watching some good matches – I always like IW/Miami period.

February 3rd, 2016 at 2:52 pm

That must be very cool Jalep.I am a big fan of skiing. My father used to talk me of that guy Zubriggen and Ingemar Stenmark.I watch some of those clips on YT even now. And its cool that you are from Argentina too.

February 3rd, 2016 at 2:52 pm

This is bad news for Đoko, since there will be no Federer to clean up the rest of the field to the finals, where Đoko awaits to blow him away (gently:)
This means Đoko will have to face different opponents which will be harder for him to beat, since we’ve all witnessed so many times that contrary to the hype, there was not much uncertainty to their matches, most of the times ot was obvious who will win from the get-go.

Now, there will be Gilles Simones and the like to shake things up a bit for Đoko. I’m sure that he is so confident in his matches against Fed that he would pick to play against him instead, say Simon, in a final showdown. Đoković knows Federer and knows how to play against him and what to expect from him. Other guys are not that consistent in winning or losing. That’s why I think Fed’s injury or retirement is bad news for Đoković.

February 3rd, 2016 at 3:10 pm

Courbon,indeed Novaks doing fantastic i have alot of respect for him and his achievements which are amazing, but tell me please you dont see me as some hater do you?….

February 3rd, 2016 at 3:13 pm

Kriket im curious where did the little line through the capital D and the mark above the c come from in Novaks sirname,i thought it was dirt on my computer screen,till i looked again,im just interested is it something to do with name pronounciation??….

February 3rd, 2016 at 3:20 pm

GG,

Nothing to do with pronunciation, it is how you spell Nole’s name in Serbian using latin letters that don’t exist in western alphabet. “Đ” stands for “Dj”and “Ć” stands for “CH” in order for his name to be pronounced properly in the west.

kriket, nice post:)

February 3rd, 2016 at 3:28 pm

Thanks Wogboy i was just curious ;)….

February 3rd, 2016 at 3:35 pm

GG,

Original way to spell Nole’s name in our native Cyrillic alphabet, Latin alphabet is not native to us, would be “Новак Ђоковић.”

February 3rd, 2016 at 3:42 pm

Ah, didn’t realise this has practically become a Serbian site. What next I ask!

February 3rd, 2016 at 3:55 pm

Those are letters of Serbo-Croatian alphabet. It’s a phonetic alphabet, meaning you read as it is written, each letter has it’s own unique voice)

Đ = Dj
Š = Sh
Ć = Tj (or Cj)
Č = Ch
Ž = Zh (like Žil Simon is Gilles Simon)

February 3rd, 2016 at 4:33 pm

@Giles
We want ESPN, Euro sport, and future women’s GOAT like Olga Danilovic prob will be. Cose u know we got that in men tennis already…

February 3rd, 2016 at 4:35 pm

SG1: that crossed my mind as well.

February 3rd, 2016 at 4:42 pm

Nikola, unfortunately no. I’m not from Argentina (love Mendoza) but I spent time that summer there travelling. The highlight was skiing here for a week:

http://www.laslenasski.com/

Have brushed shoulders with some ‘greats’ in the sport skiing off-piste. I’m from Idaho and Oregon.

Novak has skiier’s legs – that’s why I’m his fan.

February 3rd, 2016 at 5:40 pm

Purcell, Ben…there’s so much consensus in here right now. Where’s the dysfunction that this site proclaims…:)?

Anyway, I do agree. A meniscus issue isn’t like an ACL injury or a torn Achilles. He’ll need a couple of months and he’ll be just fine.

February 3rd, 2016 at 5:56 pm

Nikola,

I do have high hopes for Olga Danilovic and Ivana Jorovic, if Olga inherited only 50% of her father Saša Danilovic, who was genius, sport DNA, she will be champion.

Here is Sasa Danilovic and Olga has his body structure, of course woman way:

http://youtu.be/3SeqZvOFmdU

February 3rd, 2016 at 6:15 pm

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/tennis/article49058960.html
Here’s an article on her, she’s tall.

February 3rd, 2016 at 7:02 pm

Heard Fed was still in IW still? Hope so, he is of course very popular there.

February 3rd, 2016 at 7:13 pm

@Skeezer – I hope so! I don’t know how many more years he’ll be able to play there. I’m hoping to watch him on the practice courts.

February 3rd, 2016 at 7:55 pm

@RZ
You’ll be there? Awesome venue ;)
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@TENNIS X STAFF

Please correct mobile phone view.

February 3rd, 2016 at 8:55 pm

Damm, this news out of knowhere, eventually father time catches us all. Hope he is back o court soon. so DelPo.

Who would have though Fed’s knee would give up before Nadal’s

February 3rd, 2016 at 9:00 pm

When novak beat roger..i couldn’t believe that’s the score was 61 62 in the first 2 sets..this is the great roger federer we talking about..not rafa who is still struggling with self belief and confidence..roger who’s form can challenge novak in every department[except mentally if it’s 5 setter]like he already proved it at uso..now to think of it..he maybe already felt something at that time but don’t want to make a fuss about it..like when he lost to rafa at IW a couple years ago in almost the same manner..and then after that we knew he had a back problem..now..not at all to demean or degraded novak’s win coz he’s more than capable of doing much more than that and with his crazy form right now,he deserved to win..but like ben said..it is strange that everything happened the day after gruelling match with novak…none the less i hope roger get well soon..

February 3rd, 2016 at 11:22 pm

GG-Hater? Not at all.

February 4th, 2016 at 12:29 am

@GG..i don’t know why you kept believing some of the posters here who never tired of accusing you as a hater..i am a newbie here and even i can bet on my life that you’re one of the fair,balance and friendly and certainly not judgemental poster on this site..will you stop doubting yourself please..you’re already beautiful on the inside..although i don’t know bout your physical…which is doesn’t matter cause what’s you’ve got inside is really matter..oookkkk?

February 4th, 2016 at 1:18 am

Is it the first time in his glorious career, Roger will be out of Tennis for a month ?

He has stayed injury free throughout his career and this remarkable fitness attribute stood out as envy for other players.

I think he will be sound, fit and back after this minor surgery and continue what he is most passionate about and what he breathes for !!

February 4th, 2016 at 2:08 am

Tears to the meniscus, of which there are two in each knee, are a common injury for athletes. In 2014, striker Luis Suarez bounced back from a meniscal surgery within four weeks to score for Uruguay against England at the World Cup in Brazil.

Sean Curry, a specialist knee surgeon at London Orthopedic Clinic said recovery times can vary significantly.

“There’s a big difference between a small meniscal tear and a large one. It also depends on how the patient applies themselves to their recovery,” he said.

“Everyone is different.

Positive news follows and that For someone like Federer, who will have one-on-one physio and plenty of time to work hard, a return within a month is reasonable.”

Once the swelling has subsided and the muscles are back to full strength, Curry said the patient is “good to go.”

“[Federer’s age] might put him at slightly more risk, but he’s a consummate professional and is old enough to know that if he isn’t ready, he’ll just have to skip another tournament.”

CNN reoort

February 4th, 2016 at 3:39 am

CNN report!

February 4th, 2016 at 3:40 am

My heart is bleeding for Fed….

I can only wish him, the same what he would wish Nole under such circumstances…

February 4th, 2016 at 4:23 am

@Van Persie

You should also see a surgeon, a bleeding heart can be fatal.

February 4th, 2016 at 6:55 am

skeezer loves goats doesn’t he. Doesn’t miss an opportunity to praise a goat. Very compassionate human being this skeezer.

February 4th, 2016 at 6:57 am

Sad news for Federer
Knee surgery isn’t good look at poor Nadal ?
Can’t run like before

February 4th, 2016 at 7:57 am

Didnt know Rafa had had knee surgery?….

February 4th, 2016 at 7:59 am

Rafa had surgery on his knees … Not sure which one ?
But positive I’m sure I read about it !

February 4th, 2016 at 8:03 am

http://www.drlox.com/tennis-star-rafael-nadal-knee-stem-cell-treatment/

This is the only info I could find on Nadal.

February 4th, 2016 at 8:06 am

Laser therapy it’s similar to arthroscopic surgery but without cutting … Technically it’s deemed as surgery

February 4th, 2016 at 8:08 am

Good luck to Federer hopefully he can fully recover & win one more Wimbledon

February 4th, 2016 at 8:16 am

NADAL HAS NEVER HAD KNEE SURGERY!!

February 4th, 2016 at 8:18 am

I think its his best chance of another GS,and the FO for Rafa,either way both are in the last chance saloon when it comes to winning the slams now JMO….

February 4th, 2016 at 8:40 am

GILES
How’s zozza ?
You’ll find Nadal has had treatment on his knees
Without it he’d be long retired he has severe tendinitis

February 4th, 2016 at 8:53 am

Rafa will never win another grand slam nor make another final of one … His career was ruined by that damn wrist injury after Wimbledon plus appendix where he stupidly played instead of having his appendix removed ASAP … Dumb move
Once again most likely his stupid uncle who couldn’t lead a horse to water let alone coach tennis player
Look at Djoky his father doesn’t coach him … Nor do any relatives … Just a thought for Nadal 😂

Sadly Nadal won’t win JACK s..t again

February 4th, 2016 at 8:58 am

Del potro is back soon
Wow hopefully he’s wrists will hold up ?
What a shame … No luck this man could’ve been number one in the world without all this bad luck !
He’s got the power to beat anyone

February 4th, 2016 at 9:02 am

Now thats what i love to hear fans of their own favorites thinking so positively,playing right into the hands of the naysayers,with fans like that Nadal certainly doesnt need haters….

February 4th, 2016 at 9:08 am

[…] Federer underwent knee surgery on Tuesday and will be out at least a month forcing him out of Rotterdam and his title defense in Dubai. And he’ll likely miss Indian Wells and Miami which isn’t on his schedule. […]

February 4th, 2016 at 9:39 am

@Pauly……I have read two different articles that made mention of Rafa’s knee surgery. I wondered if there was news of it at some point with the Spanish media. I know there was never a public announcement in any news over the internet. He did not play for several months at one time. I have always wondered if he didn’t have a “secret” surgery……stranger things have happened. Maybe the treatment on the knee with the blood procedure was taken out of context…..Who knows?? But I do think it is totally possible he could have had surgery…..they don’t have to disclose everything they do, do they?? Just saying…..

February 4th, 2016 at 10:32 am

Van Persie: what would Roger wish Novak under the same circumstances?

February 4th, 2016 at 10:41 am

Zozza. In case you are not aware, there is a difference between treatment and surgery. I repeat Nadal has never had knee surgery!!!

February 4th, 2016 at 10:50 am

Giles, why are you so defensive about whether or not Nadal had knee surgery?

I’m pretty sure he didn’t. He had PRP treatments and whatnot but that’s not surgery. I never heard that he had anything invasive beyond treatments.

February 4th, 2016 at 11:02 am

Hardly defensive Ben. Just trying to point out the truth. Yes, he’s had a few PRP treatments but that’s all as far as I know.

February 4th, 2016 at 11:35 am

Purcell he/she can speak for themselves,but i think what Van Persie meant was im sure Novak would wish Roger a speedy recovery,i dont think for a moment there was any malice in that post?….

February 4th, 2016 at 11:42 am

Who would’ve thought fed would have knee surgery and not Rafa

February 4th, 2016 at 12:05 pm

Purcell, I think you already have the answer, deep down in your heart ;)

February 4th, 2016 at 12:06 pm

And just when I said in the other thread a few days ago that Fed and Novak are injury free players.
I’d really like to know more about the circumastances in which he sustained the injury.

February 4th, 2016 at 12:20 pm

“I can only wish him, the same what he would wish Nole under such circumstances…”
Am sure he would. Haven’t heard anything from Nole yet however….maybe its still deep down in his heart ;)

February 4th, 2016 at 12:22 pm

@kriket – we now know the circumstances. You jinxed him! :-)

February 4th, 2016 at 12:30 pm

Something sinister going on with Roger’s injury?? If he started playing at 10 yrs old, for instance…… he has lots of tennis miles on him…24 yrs to be exact. I know he has the best athletic genes ever but age is creeping in on those genes. He also went deep at the AO and I’m confident his body was in a tired state….so I don’t know why all the fuss. He hurt his knee and he’s gonna get it fixed. Maybe he got mugged in the park and had to spring into quick action…lol
Let’s all hope he recovers quickly!! Still as a Rafa fan I do love to watch him play, especially when he plays Rafa. Some wonderful exciting matches between those two. Not ready for either of them to retire. These two are still a huge draw!

February 4th, 2016 at 1:03 pm

Okie great post and too true,scratching my head though,the irony is Rogers suffering with a knee injury,but for once Rafa is the fit one with no injury….

February 4th, 2016 at 1:12 pm

“Am sure he would. Haven’t heard anything from Nole yet however….maybe its still deep down in his heart ;)”

I guess Nole is resting now at home. He would be silly to organize a press conf now, in order to wish Roger speedy recovery…it is just a knee injury, it is not that tragic…

February 4th, 2016 at 1:40 pm

“Am sure he would. Haven’t heard anything from Nole yet however….maybe its still deep down in his heart ;)”

I guess Nole is resting now at home. He would be silly to organize a press conf now, in order to wish Roger speedy recovery…it is just a knee injury, it is not that tragic…

February 4th, 2016 at 1:40 pm

^^^^Yes, being injury free is something to crow about…..now if was playing as such. He played so long with a niggle here and there….and won matches under those circumstances. I am left scratching my head. I realize he’s older and all…….but he needs help ASAP!

February 4th, 2016 at 1:49 pm

“It is just a knee injury, not that tragic”……you better get with Rafa on that one, VP….lol I bet Rafa would not agree! lol

February 4th, 2016 at 1:53 pm

Well Okie, I get you :)
I meant, it is not like that what happened to Michael Schumacher…that’s tragic

February 4th, 2016 at 2:11 pm

Van Persie Says:
My heart is bleeding for Fed….

I can only wish him, the same what he would wish Nole under such circumstances…

February 4th, 2016 at 4:23 am

Another hater. VP. Grow up!

February 4th, 2016 at 2:17 pm

Well, Madmax…this site is really full of Fed fans who love Nole….

February 4th, 2016 at 2:20 pm

Fed fans (including madmax) love Nole the same way Stefi Graff fans loved Monica Seles…

February 4th, 2016 at 2:34 pm

Travis…I liked and like Steffi, ….but never understood the stupid think, what happened to Monica, never agreed with that…Monika was very, very talented..
I would still not compare Steffi’s attitude with Fed’s attitude…or I do not know, was to little..

February 4th, 2016 at 2:45 pm

“Fed fans (including madmax) love Nole the same way Stefi Graff fans loved Monica Seles…” Dude! Soon not true. Go back to your Taxi already.
I see butthurt Nole fans trying to jest Fed any chance they can. The jealousy syndrome continues with some Novak fans…

February 4th, 2016 at 2:45 pm

Right here we go – fedfans v joker fans – who will win?
My money is on Fedfans! :)

February 4th, 2016 at 2:53 pm

Sorry, I was wrong!
At least, Stefi’s fans did not wildly cheer Monica’s double faults.
Fed fans are definitely crazier in their fear of their idol being surpassed. But it is happening.
In three years, both GS record and weeks at #1 record will not belong to Federer, and lot of deeply depressed Fed-fanatics will be quiet and completely disinterested in tennis!

February 4th, 2016 at 2:54 pm

skeezer,
“So not true.”

I say soooo true! We will have to disagree on this one, but that’s OK. You have your opinion, I have mine. No need to chase me back to my cab or spew personal hate and claim jealousy syndrome when the only jealous and buthurt folks are Fed fanatic such as yourself (recent thrashings dished by Djoker, reversal of H2H, complaints of current lack of challenges to Djoker, etc.) Vaseline, my friend, vaseline is my only suggestion to you!

On another note, I’d like to address the unfortunate, although mild injury to your idol:
Roger is well known for being understanding and compassionate when other players have health issues/injuries and are forced to retire from their matches.
And like cruel fate would have it, he gets injured. Bummer! And also totally unfair…

February 4th, 2016 at 3:06 pm

TB, you are so full of shit it’s ridiculous.

First of all, if Fed fans “love” anyone like Steffi fans “loved” Seles, it’s Nadal, not Djokovic.

Second of all, to break Federer’s weeks at number one, Djokovic needs to over 2 years worth of weeks to do so. And he needs a full 2 years worth of slams to surpass Federer’s 17. Djokovic is 28, closing in on 29. I have no idea why you and others are counting their chickens before they hatch.

I also don’t even remotely understand you’re pissyness towards Federer. What did he ever do to you? Now you’re cheering his injuries? I mean, for someone who appears to believe in karma, I’m not sure you understand how it works.

Federer fans cheer Novak’s double faults? Hmm, oh you mean the drunk NY crowd that one time? OK, cool. We have Djokovic fans who hate the animosity towards Novak due to his Serbian roots because they’re generalizing a whole people and blaming a tennis player. Entirely unfair and absolutely barbaric. So here you are generalizing an entire fanbase (literally millions of people, spanning larger than most nations) based on some drunk assholes from one night.

You’re a hypocrite, and an idiot.

February 4th, 2016 at 3:15 pm

Listen BP,

Calling someone who did not say anything to you an idiot (even if it were true) tells more about yourself than about that person.

I never insulted you personally, even though I don’t thing you’re the sharpest tool in this shed called Tennis X.

From this point on, I’ll try to respond more to your “knowledgeable analysis” on this site. As for your latest post to me, there is not much to respond. Only I suggest, find a way to blow some steam, a women perhaps or a man if you prefer…

February 4th, 2016 at 3:22 pm

Cool, except that everyone has to read your drivel whether you’re responding to them or not.

Thanks for being open minded, btw, definitely scores you some points.

February 4th, 2016 at 3:33 pm

Travis: Talk!

U ain’t a hypocrite or an idiot.
You are the self-appointed Tennis X’s Jekyll & Hyde.

or
“sometimes he’s good and very, very good, sometimes he’s bad and horrid”.

February 4th, 2016 at 4:05 pm

JK,

You just proved that women have more guts than man, and you know why, thumbs up for you.

Really unnecessary nasty name calling by BP, unprovoked, but I guess he has certain power on TX, so he is behaving accordingly.

February 4th, 2016 at 4:27 pm

GILES

You fruit cake
Is this zozza your lover ?
Obsessed with zozza

February 4th, 2016 at 6:58 pm

Wogboy

Taa, taa….thinking guy!

February 4th, 2016 at 7:27 pm

@Kath
I find TV hilarious. Hope that doesn’t make me a “bad person.” ;)
@Ben
No, not just “drunk fans at the USOpen.” I have very bad memories of Andy’s double faults/errors being cheered at the O2.
And cow bells.

February 5th, 2016 at 1:22 am

@ Ben Pronin,

After US OPEN last year I was curios and went to read a few comments on Roger site (from his fans). The most comments were full of hate towards Nole and they were very happy about the way, the crowds behaved…perhaps you should have a look on that. I guess you are naiv or you pretend to be naiv.

So: The majority of Fed Fans are barbaric, not Travis Bickle.

I also know a few Fed fans, which are ok.

February 5th, 2016 at 1:46 am

Margot,
Who is that TV that you find hilarious?

February 5th, 2016 at 2:25 am

I had a same question for Margot, I guess she meant TB, “v” and “b” are next to each other on keyboard?

February 5th, 2016 at 2:30 am

Federer has had a good run and should retire now…..as at his age the next injury could spoil the fun of bringing up those twins. He is past his prime.

February 5th, 2016 at 3:09 am

J-Kath, Margot, Van Persie, and Wog Boy,

Thanks for “having my back” in this virtual world. It’s nice to see that neutral and polite fans support my opinion and disagree with this fellow Pronin!

It looks like he used to blog on this site although, based on the archive (http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/author/benptennis) it appears he was not allowed to do so anymore since his last blog was more than two years ago. Based on the quality of his posting here, I must say I concur with the Tennis X decision.
However, I now know what he lost it when I mentioned Novak’s trashing of Federer – in the archive I linked above, I came across his December 2012 post entitled “Looking Through The Years: Federer Is Better than Ever”. Wow, just wow. He is a big time Fed worshipper. No wonder he felt an urge to attack me and be “internet knight” defending his idol Fed. Here is an ending quote of his post that is so sad that it becomes funny:
“People will always argue about whether or not Federer is the greatest. And there are a few things that detractors can latch on to. But in my mind, there’s nothing that can be said to definitively disprove it. Not when he produces his best tennis in 2012. It’s one thing to still love the game when you’re entering your twilight years. But to be the best? Only Federer.”

Upon reading this, I first vomited in my mouth a little and then started laughing. And I dared to speak negatively about “only Federer”… No wonder I received profanity-laden tirade from Ben.
Similarly, no wonder many posters here enjoy my posts and either stay unimpressed or disagree with Ben’s drivel.

I also scanned the commits below the mentioned post and loved the one by the poster named “roy”: Here it is:
(“looking through the years: the tennis-x federer worship is stronger than ever.
but we can do better. why not write more articles about federer? for instance, instead of 4 of the last 6 articles featuring a federer subject line, why not have 5 of the 6? or just rename the site federer-x?
i suppose he did make 3 slam finals this year, win the year end and finish no.1.
oh wait, that was djokovic.
December 9th, 2012 at 6:17 am”)

So based on all this, I would not call Ben Pronin an idiot (not my style) nor “an arrogant douchebag” (I reserve that nickname for Federer), but would question his tennis knowledge as well as general intelligence (Tennis X seems to have done the same). Also having his real full name as a nick on an internet forum is not very bright – anyone can google his name and see his real photo and real life info. I thought that the beauty of internet forums was in anonymity, but hey whatever rocks your boat (and Fed’s meniscus ;-)

February 5th, 2016 at 4:07 am

Sorrrry TB. @’Twas you I was referring to, of course.
We do have a TV on here, quite a different fellow, but almost as fun to read ;)

February 5th, 2016 at 4:42 am

Speaking of old tennis players with knee injuries, Kimiko Date-Krumm is getting knee surgery.
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2016/02/date-krumm-undergo-left-knee-surgery-return-tour-question/57528/#.VrUT7PkrKWg

February 5th, 2016 at 4:33 pm

Ben doesn’t appear to be an out-and-out Nole fan though. It appears he was a fed fan who jumped ship when it became clear Nole would win it all. In fact, that is precisely what one crazy fed fan did. Guess who ? Yup, that Ruan guy from the crazy ‘Ruan’s Federer blog’ who now apparently is a Nole fan. Funny world we live in.

But skeezer will never do that since he knows the meaning of loyalty.

February 6th, 2016 at 6:05 pm

this is all made up about knee problems as it will soon be revealed only way any one will ever beat novak again is by having bionic super limbs fitted and seems fed is 1st up to attempt the upgrade

February 7th, 2016 at 6:54 am

I’ve been around for quite some time though i rarely post. Ben has always been Nole admirer. Always love to read his posts considering how Nole was looked upon here in 2008. Ben was one of the few unbiased posters.

February 7th, 2016 at 10:26 am

Thanks Veka. Completely agree with you. Ben is one of the reasons I still read TX.

February 7th, 2016 at 11:15 am

Don’t really understand why so many people here think Rafa had knee surgery???

And going from being a fed-fan to a Nole fan? Morely likely that person wasn’t a fan in the first place. Probably just a person who likes someone who always wins. Otherwise not possible to trade them in like that.

February 7th, 2016 at 11:58 am

Alexandra, it doesn’t matter whose fan Ben is or has been — though I’ve read Ben Pronin for a long-time here and will vouch for him being a Novak fan since at least 2009.

What matters when I’m choosing to read or not to read a tennis blog or website is that there are at least a handful of tennis fans that are not centered on one player. Ben is one of those. He can talk about many ATP and WTA players and offer much more than fan-boy gushing and mine is bigger than yours contests. He isn’t a card holding member of any one player. He doesn’t have tunnel vision.

Not every tennis fan is looking for a Novak, Rafa, or Federer fan site. But on the internet, that is basically what you get.

February 7th, 2016 at 1:31 pm

I do not worship any player, it’s a ridiculous notion to even consider. “Fed worshipper”, what a joke. Federer, and Djokovic, and Nadal are no gods. They’re just really good athletes.

You take offense to me writing about Federer during a time when he was 30+ and snatched the number 1 ranking away from a prime Djokovic. Another joke. I’m not allowed to be impressed with his feats? I’m not allowed to write about Federer, either? Just because Djokovic ended up having the better year (no doubt) and was the better player overall (no question)? That means I and all other writers are to only write about Djokovic, and ignore all others?

Sounds like worshiping to me. Again, you are a hypocrite.

I have no problem with people disagreeing with me. You can have your opinions and your favorites and go nuts. But you’re a troll and you somehow find it as a reason to gloat. Congratulations on being a professional troll, I guess?

Lodhi, I’m sorry I’m not an out-and-out Nole fan. This is tennis. This isn’t a team sport where you have your team and everyone else is the enemy. I do not owe my allegiance to one player. I will continue to root for the players I like even if they sometimes play each other.

February 8th, 2016 at 11:06 am

This “Lodhi” keeps trying to call me out for whatever reason, but I’m not biting. I am no Fed worshipper either (whatever that means). He is my favorite player to watch, but enjoy the game first, and like / follow other players as well. From the tone of Lodhi’s post(s), the hypocritical shoe seems to fit on him/her better. A lot of hostility up here lately. Too bad…..
Ben , your post was spot on.

February 8th, 2016 at 11:43 am

@Skeezer…..Haven’t you figured this out yet about Lodhi? It’s a crush….not sure if it’s a man crush or a girl crush? The jury is out on which one it is……LOL

Your Warriors kept their streak alive at home the other night…was not happy about that!! Oh, well just another game……all of my faves in all sports are going down…..need to get a new hobby I guess….this sports hobby keeps me too tore up!

February 8th, 2016 at 12:44 pm

OK,
Heard we may be trying to get your ace Durant? That is a bit over the top, no? ;)

February 8th, 2016 at 2:13 pm

one thing i know: ben has met novak! for which i’ll be forever jealous. :)

February 8th, 2016 at 3:11 pm

jane,
Never met him but watched him practice live up close. Awesome groundies. Does that count for jealousy? ;)

February 8th, 2016 at 3:26 pm

i have never seen live professional tennis, so yeah, definitely skeezer. someday … sigh.

February 8th, 2016 at 4:02 pm

@jane – I hope you get to see live pro tennis soon. You deserve it.

February 8th, 2016 at 4:27 pm

@Skeezer….OMG I have not heard that…I will stop watching Thunder if KD leaves. That’s a bummer! Love to watch him……that is not good news for Okie fans…..but thanks for sharing. He would be an asset to any team. I wish we still had the 6th man…..the bearded one James Hardin!!

February 8th, 2016 at 4:43 pm