Djokovic, Venus Williams Win Titles; Davis Cup Drama

How about Venus in that Sombrero eh? I never thought I’d say this but Venus in a sombrero is quite sexy

March 2nd, 2009 at 7:51 am

Staff:

My compliments. You’ve been working very hard to bring us all of the tennis news that’s newsworthy. It’s appreciated and keep up the good work.

For how long will the Williams sisters keep on perpetuating the racist remarks at IW? They need to move on. Geez!!

March 2nd, 2009 at 2:47 pm

Von:

You should have seen the ESPN site after the Jemele Hill article was published – Ugly is the only word for it. The Wms sisters “supporters” were vicious in their attacks that Vee & Ree (as they are referred to) had no responsibility to support Peer/WTA rules as no one has supported them in the IW boycott.

March 2nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm

tenisbebe:

I didn’t read the articles, in fact I hardly ever read the stuff that’s out there, but I can just imagine what went on going by some of the statements that’s made by their father. I don’t understand how people could continue for such a long time to harbor in their hearts so much animosity — it’s mind-boggling. I’d go out on a limb and say they are a very unhappy bunch of prejudiced people. They’re Jehovah’s Witnesses and that religion supposedly follows the Bible, hence why the stance from Vee and Ree on the racist remarks. They’re supposed to be forgiving.

I get the impression that they would love for the IW tournament director to get down on his/her knees and beg them to play. Anything short of that just wouldn’t do, and if that doesn’t happen they’ll hold out forever. They should be ignored and fined. I think this bowing down to mere mortals is so wrong and it’s the reason we have so many spoilt brats and monsters in the world today. People kiss up to others for all the wrong reasons. OK I’m off my soap box.

March 2nd, 2009 at 5:03 pm

Von:
I hear ya & I’m with ya, sister! BTW apparently Billie Jean King bought a stake in IW & she’s trying to mediate a compromise to get the sisters to play. If anyone summon common sense to prevail, it’s Billie.

March 2nd, 2009 at 6:16 pm

sorry – should be “can summon”……..

March 2nd, 2009 at 6:17 pm

tenisbebe:

Well, exactly what I mean, that someone has to smooch them over for them to play, and Billie Jean would be the best person to do it, because in some ways they need her. We shall see. I support all of the US players, but I’ve given up on them and refuse to remain silent on their classless behavior. They can sue me.

March 2nd, 2009 at 8:01 pm

I agree with everyone, how can the Williams sisters continue to boycott IW and not be embarrassed after their two-facedness was exposed in Dubai? Every year that they boycott IW they look more ridiculous, petty, and bitter. Venus clearly doesn’t care about the sponsors and fans there as she did so much in Dubai. Touché.

March 2nd, 2009 at 8:08 pm

Here is the link to the article re Wms sisters & IW:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/090220&sportCat=tennis

March 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 pm

I agreed with the espn article. After reading through the comments, it looks like most commenters take issue on why the Williams sisters were expected to take a stand. Does being black mean you have to take a stand? If you complain about racism, as the sisters did with IW, does that mean you have to take stand? It is a valid point to a degree.

Venus mentioned the sponsors during her trophy thing. I’m always fascinated about the fees the players get for showing up. I wonder how much she stood to lose if she did not show. In today’s economic client should the player be putting the sponsors first? I’m not writing that it was her motivation, but it is interesting to think that costing sponsors money in this tourny would have a rolling effect for the rest of the year.
Should the WTA cancelled the tourny? Morally, yes, but in economic terms, not so sure.

Not that Venus is not set for life, but I always think that Serena was the real money maker for the family.

Some posters, myself included, posted about the change in the type of players in today’s came vs. yesterday.
First, I think we do look through rose-colored glasses in some respect while looking to the past. Today’s game== well, the past 20-odd years, attracts players that are there to collect a paycheck and have to support their entire families. IMHO, it cannot be underestimated how many top plays may have gotten their start in the game due to their parents seeing them as future moneymakers.

If the WTA and the rest of the initial-laden tennis world were actually a union, all hell would have broken loose.

Don’t forget, the sisters will be playing for $1.2 million dollars tomorrow night at a “charity” event at MSG!

March 2nd, 2009 at 9:59 pm

TAm: I think the sisters viewpoint was it was the tour that was racist in their handling of the IW(seriously, there was an agrument to be made about Richard and match fixing and it was an accumulation of tacky events involving the family), but with Dubai it was the country, not the tour, that was wrong.

I do think they should have pulled out of the Dubai tournament.

Would the sponsors have a reason to sue if the WTA cancelled the tournament? I would love to see the contracts.

Von: You mention BJK. I have’nt come across any remarks from her– or the old guard– about Dubai. Interesting.

March 2nd, 2009 at 10:13 pm

Mary:
Hi. I actually mentioned BJK re: IW & her new ownership stake but in addition, have not heard a peep from her on the Peer thing.

“Some posters, myself included, posted about the change in the type of players in today’s came vs. yesterday.” Where? Here or on the ESPN website?

“Don’t forget, the sisters will be playing for $1.2 million dollars tomorrow night at a “charity” event at MSG!” Think this is BJK’s event and the “charity” gets the proceeds. What are you implying? That the players are receiving compensation for tonight?

I got the impression that the beef with IW is that although security threw the culprit out, the tournament did not apologize to them. But honestly I can’t remember what I read occurred back then.

March 2nd, 2009 at 10:53 pm

tennisbebe: It was on the ESPN site.

Yeah, the whole IW thing was odd.

From yahoo sports:
“Each of them was guaranteed a nice paycheck for the $1.2 million exhibition, with $400,000 going to the winner.”

The article said it was a “near capacity” crowd.

March 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 pm

tennisbebe: My bad, the comments about the past and current players was here. If I remember correctly, It was on the threads about whether players should pull out and Roddick’s thread.

March 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 pm

you guys are so weird. what about the other women in the tour? why weren’t they expected to boycott Dubai?

and it is a legitimate question…who stood with venus and serena when they faced discrimination?

they could really give a rat’s ass if you guys support them or not. and that’s what eating you up!

March 3rd, 2009 at 12:50 am

von-i was specifically referring to you. it’s obvious that you never really supported them to begin with and this just gives you another excuse.

March 3rd, 2009 at 12:53 am

This is from the ATP website:

2009 ATP World Tour Match Wins Leaders

Player W-L Titles
1 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 19-3 2
2 Tommy Robredo 18-4 2
3 Andy Roddick 17-3 1
4 Radek Stepanek 16-3 2
5 Andy Murray 15-1 1
6 Marin Cilic 15-2 2
7 Novak Djokovic 14-4 1
8 Rafael Nadal 13-2 1
9 Gael Monfils 13-5 0
10 Four players with 12 wins

March 3rd, 2009 at 1:08 am

Interesting……….

March 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 am

Mary says:
“Each of them was guaranteed a nice paycheck for the $1.2 million exhibition, with $400,000 going to the winner.”

Wow – so much for charity.

March 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 am

Mary:

“Von: You mention BJK. I haven’t come across any remarks from her– or the old guard– about Dubai. Interesting.”

Funny you should ask that question.

I watched the Exho earlier this evening, Williams Sisters vs. Serbs, and the commentators, Carillo, John McEnroe and Billie Jean all talked about Dubai. Their opinion on the matter: Venus should have pulled out of Dubai and the women players should have shown more solidarity, not just for Dubai but for women’s rights on the whole. They also lavishly praised Andy Roddick’s stand on the whole issue. So there’s my answer.

For playing the exho tonight, Serena netted $400K, Venus $300K, and Jelena and Ana $250K respectively. Not bad for a night’s work. Per Carillo, the Williams family will eat dinner tonight.
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jelink:

I probably should ignore your comments but because I’ve never seen you posting here, I’ll answer. Your your statement tells me that you’ve never seen how much I always praise them, and keep silent when they SHOULD be criticized.

Had you posted here previously, you would know that I support ALL of the American players. I’m lavish on praise and stingy on criticism where they are concerned, but this time, I really feel that Venus and Serena are absolutely overdoing it with respect to IW and whatever racial remarks were supposedly made their way. It’ been a few years now, and I don’t recall any other incidents to that effect occurring at IW or elsewhere PERTAINING TO THEM. Hence, isn’t it about time they let go of it for their own sake as well as for the tournament’s. After all, it’s an American tournament and an opportunity for them to represent their country, so why hold on to it. Additionally, such feelings cannot promote any positive emotions for them — it festers.

If, by speaking up on the issue and airing my opinion translates to you that I never supported them to begin with then so be it. You have a right to your opinion, and please remember this, so do I. BTW, as I mentioned, I’ve never seen you posting, why don’t you, or is it that you only do just to criticize another for making any comments.

March 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 am

$50,000 went to charity but it wasn’ donated by the players.

March 3rd, 2009 at 1:35 am

tenisbebe:

“I got the impression that the beef with IW is that although security threw the culprit out, the tournament did not apologize to them. But honestly I can’t remember what I read occurred back then.”

During the AO there were many fans from different countries who were making racial remarks and some of them got thrown out, and some took the fighting to the grounds. Did the AO apologize to the players who were insulted? I don’t think so.

I’ve noticed each year at the AO there have been similar incidents, but I don’t hear the players complaining or refusing to return.

March 3rd, 2009 at 1:44 am

FYI: That incident at IW occurred in 2001. It’s been 8 years — a very long time.

Venus spoke up at the Player’s Council a couple of years ago with respect to the women receiving equal pay due to the fact that they are “human beings”. Well, if money is so very important to her, I don’t understand their withdrawal from IW for 8 years. They’ve probably lost several millions of dollars between the two of them by their boycott. On one hand, they want more money, but on the other hand, they have an opportunity to make money and they turn away from it because of a few remarks which were made by a stupid fan. Realistically speaking, the fan is the one who should apologize, and he’s also not the one losing the big bucks, it’s the Williams sisters. This is an example of cutting off one’s nose to spoil one’s face and it doesn’t make any sense.

I’ve said my piece on the whole incident, it’s their problem, they’ll have to deal with it, and they most certainly don’t need my support.

March 3rd, 2009 at 2:31 am

Von: “Per Carillo, the Williams family will eat dinner tonight.”
Ouch! Glad to hear the old guard said something.

March 3rd, 2009 at 8:55 am

Von,

I agree with your take on Williams / IW. Regardless of whether one supports the Williams sisters, who are obviously some of the most talented women tennis players currently, their grudge against IW seems to be kind of pointless; the tournament goes on, and they just refuse to play.

It’s beyond the tournament organizers’ control what idiot fans do or say sometimes, as you point out with the racial tussles going on at AO the last few years.

It’s not like the tournament is banning the sisters based on race or religious affiliations or whatever, which was the situation with Peer; it’s the sisters holding a grudge against what someone in the audience said 8 years ago. It’s time to let it go. People get the point and their fans would be thrilled to see them play there again.

There should be fined, like anyone else would be, if they refuse to play a mandatory event.

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 am

Hi Von, just a bit of info., Josh Goodall is not Jason’s son, his dad is called Gary.
Cheers.

March 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm

Staff: Rusedski is 35-36, retired last year and has no recent tournament experience he couldn’t get any wild cards. How demoralising would it be for the young players to bring him back in? You’ll be suggesting Roger Taylor next.

March 3rd, 2009 at 1:01 pm

“You’ll be suggesting Roger Taylor next.”
They’ll only suggest Roger Taylor if Simon LeBon is busy.

March 3rd, 2009 at 1:11 pm

federer is not the GOAT
he is the CHICKEN
bwak bwak bwak!

March 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm

Von says:

“During the AO there were many fans from different countries who were making racial remarks and some of them got thrown out, and some took the fighting to the grounds. Did the AO apologize to the players who were insulted? I don’t think so.”
Right, I am aware of the numerous Oz incidents & agree that if this was the way it played, it’s the fan not the tourney who is to blame (as if the tourney has any control over the fans behavior!!). However the story of what actually transpired has been spun so many different ways since then, I don’t know what the current version is – neither do I really care at this point, as it’s been 8 yrs. My view of the whole thing has been pretty simple: Papa pushed things too far & they finally got called out on the suspicious tanks & defaults that were occurring when they played one another but BY THE FANS not the tournament. There was a public backlash with the crowd booing & subsequent criticism. So to shift the focus, they point to this obnoxious fan incident & use that as justification for the boycott, thereby avoiding having to play in a place where they were booed AND had a run-in with an obnoxious fan. And did you notice that this sort of thing stopped after the IW incident? Oh well, I’ve said more than I wanted to and am sure I’m going to hear about it – but that’s the breaks.

March 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm

Speaking of the AO, there was an incident with Serena in ’07, at one of her matches. She didn’t want to run for a ball and a fan shouted out a partially racist and derogatory statement to the tune of “run you lazy ‘b” something, get the damn ball”. At the changeover she complained to the black umpire who speaks like Darth Vader, and security took care of the guy. She did make a scene over it saying the guy could be crazy and dangerous, etc..

My point, she didn’t stop playing at the AO, nor did she take a stand against the tournament, but kept on playing and won the Championship annihilating Sharapova in the finals. She’s been back to the AO every year and has never spoken about that incident.

Question: How does that incident differ from IW? Not very much. I believe they used the IW incident to deflect from their father’s other shenanigans. There was a lot of other things going on., e.g., their father was being sued for breach of contract, et al. So now IW is the fall guy.

Bud Collins has been very vociferous on the whole IW issue and feels if it were any other player they would not be accommodated as the Williams sisters are presently.

March 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 pm

FYI: There’s a new thread on Who’s in the Trunk and dear Sean is now there. Ha, ha, ha. I feel like doing a Geoffrey Holder laugh, unfortunately the net does not yet have sound emphasis.

March 3rd, 2009 at 4:35 pm

Margot:

Thanks for the clarification on the Goodalls. I thought that was Jason’s son.

I see John Lloyd is taking some heat for ignoring Rusedski.

March 3rd, 2009 at 4:45 pm

jane:

“It’s not like the tournament is banning the sisters based on race or religious affiliations or whatever, which was the situation with Peer; it’s the sisters holding a grudge against what someone in the audience said 8 years ago. It’s time to let it go. People get the point and their fans would be thrilled to see them play there again.”

Kind of a reverse discrimination against IW, don’t you think? Anyway, to reiterate, it’s their problem and they’re going to have to deal with it. Unfortunately, they’ll be the winner, because they’re being offered alternatives and perceived racist slurs are never forgotten by some people. They’re holding a trump card, exploiting it to the hilt, and they know it. It’s too bad, because they’re Americans and whatever they or any other Americans do is always a reflection on our country. It’s all so very sad. I just wonder what they would do if they were in Peer’s shoes. Probably topple one of Dubai’s pinnacle buildings.

March 3rd, 2009 at 7:59 pm

Von – I suspect their father has something to do with it too! He’s got a chip on his shoulder I think.

March 3rd, 2009 at 8:10 pm

who are you guys to put a time limit on someone’s pain? if serena were your child or someone that you loved you would be singing a different story. put yourselves in someone else’s shoes for once. this get over it stuff annoys me. until you have felt the sting of discrimination, then you shouldn’t talk. the tournament never apologized to them or try to make amends for the way the situation was handled. listen the williams sisters obviously do not need IW and IW has made it clear that they don’t need them. so what is the issue here? that they have the gall? I mean seriously.

again, why are people trying to have it both ways. you critize them on their stance on IW and say boycotting is wrong but you want them to boycott Dubai. Who stood or supported them when they were treated unfaily at IW and through other racial incidents they have been subjected to?

unbelievable.

March 3rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm

and how is it reverse discrimination against IW? please explain becasue U really don’t get that one.

March 3rd, 2009 at 9:10 pm

*U* should be *I*

March 3rd, 2009 at 9:10 pm

Von – the incident you speak of was MIAMI and not the AO. get your facts straight and stop making them up to fit your arguments. and the ddifference is that it was ONE individual making those commments and with the cooperation of other fans in the stand who pointed him out, he was removed by tournament security. see the difference, the tournament acted on it unlike IW where Serena was jeered by a WHOLE STADIUM and no action was taken by tournament officials.

you must really be a heartless human being to not be moved by those people jeering a FELLOW AMERICAN in that manner but your only concern is how their boycott is playing around the world.

i’m not trying to pick a fight but you and some of the other posters here are just mystifying me with your double standards and white-denial.

March 3rd, 2009 at 9:18 pm

Jelink:

As you so indelicately put it to Von, get your facts straight!! No they did NOT say the problem was with the crowd who booed them when it was announced that Venus was withdrawing, but rather an incident in the stands b/w Richard & a spectator who uttered obnoxious despicable remarks to he and Venus when they were watching Serena play the finals match. As I said in my post “the story of what actually transpired has been spun so many different ways since then, I don’t know what the current version is”. And it appears we have yet another one.

March 3rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm

jelink “until you have felt the sting of discrimination, then you shouldn’t talk. ” — have do you know we haven’t?

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:01 pm

jelink:

“the tournament acted on it unlike IW where Serena was jeered by a WHOLE STADIUM and no action was taken by tournament officials.””

What were the IW officials to do? Throw out the “WHOLE STADIUM”? I mean it’s a rather difficult situation don’t you think?

And as far as I go, I haven’t said the Williams sisters should’ve boycotted Dubai; I am trying to discuss IW as a separate issue. The connection, however, is the notion of boycotting and/or being banned. With Shahar’s case, she had no control; with the sister’s case, they have total control, unless their father is at least partly why they refuse to return.

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 pm

no tenisbebe, if they were specifically and only offended by that one fan or a couple of fans then I think this issue would have been over and done with. the whole stadium viciously jeered serena throughout the match. that particular situation was only part of the equation.

i watched it when it happened and several times since then. have you? even if you take out the racial component, how can so many “adults” be so eager to bring a 19 year old to tears based on what HER SISTER did. serena showed up, she did what she was supposed to do.

again put yourself in their shoes.

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:06 pm

they are grown women now, i really don’t believe their dad has as much say in their careers as most people think. they both feel very strongly about this.

throw out the whole stadium? very funny haha. at the very least a tournament official should have made some gesture to let the crown know that hey this is not cool, you’re out of order or something. an apology however symbolic would have been nice. but they acted like it wasn’t a big deal and have emphatically stated that they have a fine tournament and don’t need the williams, etc (which is all good and well). the williams have also indicated they have no desire to play there so the feeling is mutual. AND they have said they are willing to accept any penalty including the suspension for not playing there. so who are we as fans and non-fans to tell them they should play there regardless??

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:16 pm

if you have truly felt the sting of racial discrimination then you more than likely would not be spouting of some of the nonsense that i’ve seen posted on here regarding this issue.

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 pm

jelink,

It’s true, it was not cool that the sisters & their father got booed. But again, it’s tough. What could the organizers have done? The umpire can ask them to be quite, but there’s only so much they’ll listen.

Players gets jeered and booed from time-to- time, and sometimes for seemingly ridiculous things. The French Open crowd booed Hingis (not my favorite player I might add) just because she used an underhand serve. I mean, whatever! But she was just 18. And they were on her for that entire match afterward, no match how many times the ump tried to stop them.

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 pm

well jelink, if they are willing to accept the fines and penalties for not playing there, and feel it will be better for them not to, then as far as I am concerned they can live in this state and not play. but they might be surprised by the love they’d receive if they DID return, and it might make it all better to let it pass.

it’s the notion they should be able to not play and not accept the penalties, whatever those may be, that i’d have a problem with.

p.s. it’s rude to call other people’s opinions “nonsense” and since you seem to be concerned with empathy, you might at least take that into consideration.

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:25 pm

i apologize for the nonsense remark.

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 pm

No worries jelink; we all get a little impassioned at times.

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:33 pm

jelink:

Perhaps I’m about to make a huge mistake by answering you, but anyway, here goes.

The whole stadium did NOT jeer Serena throughout the match. They jeered Richard and Venus as they were walking to their seats for Serena’s match. Richard incensed them more by making a fist at them. In that situation, as jane asked, what was the Tour officials supposed to do, throw out the whole stadium of tennis fans?

Did you ever see the video of Serena playing against Justine Henin wherein she called Justine a “bitch” across the net? Maybe Henin should have gotten an apology and blamed the tournament also. Believe me, I’m not or ever has been a Henin fan, but that was so classless of Serena. I was embarrassed on her behalf.

We can look for blame on all sides and there is plenty, but I firmly believe, and it’s the reason I’ve spoken up, that it’s about time to let go of the sore and let it heal. Only be letting go can something be healed. True, they were hurt, and some wrong was done, but so have a ton of people all over the world been wronged. The philosophy of life is to forgive and move on.

Yes, I know what reverse discrimination is. I was turned down for a promotion because the powers that be wanted a “black” person for the job, even though my education, experience and qualifications were waaaayy above hers. I was hurt, but I knew if I wanted to be peaceful I needed to let go of it. I did, and a year later I got an even better promotion. Sometimes, we have to let go to let good into our lives. And, I’ve seen many, many instances of reverse discrimination, where I just had to shake my head. So please don’t preach to me on that subject.

Reverse discrimination on the Williams’ part, is their discriminatory behavior — choosing to not play in a specific tournament. Unlike Peer where she was discriminated against and couldn’t play in Dubai. How would they like it if the WTA/IW were to say, OK because of your refusal to play this year, you are both banned from playing in other tournaments;it’s all or nothing? I wonder how they’d react to such a stand.

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 pm

von, you have included so much revisionist history in your post that I don’t even know where to begin. i’m going to bed and if Ai have the energy or inclination I’ll respond tommorrow.

god bless you and good night.

March 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 pm

jelinK:

Thank you, and goodnight. Sleep well, and maybe tomorrow you’ll change your mind about blasting me. I can back up my points with YouTube too.

Be well, and God bless.

March 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 pm

“Lleyton Hewitt is suing former management company Octagon, and Octagon is suing Hewitt…”

Lleyton is a moron. The ATP fined him $161,000 for skipping an interview. He spent $153,000 successfully appealing his fine which was then reduced to $30,000. If that doesn’t sound dumb enough, it doesn’t end there.

Swallowing his pride was not something he could ever do. He took the ATP to the Supreme Court over the $30,000 that he refused to pay. He spent a further $434,000 in legal fees trying unsuccessfully to overturn the $30,000 fine.

I’m an accountant, and I can only laugh at this.

Anyone who’s done basic math will know it wasn’t worth it, and he’s just cost himself even more. $30,000 is a measly amount for a guy who makes millions a year in endorsements alone. He should have just paid the $30,000 and saved himself the half million.

March 4th, 2009 at 12:27 am

Giner:

I remember the a similair “$161,000 for skipping an interview” event – it was for an interview with ESPN during Cincy. But I thought that fine for $20,000 & he appealed it but no expensive lawyers involved – more like an arbitration situation. Is this a different one?

March 4th, 2009 at 12:57 am

sorry for bad spelling. s/b “simliar”

March 4th, 2009 at 12:58 am

one more time… “similar”.

March 4th, 2009 at 12:59 am

Von’s right about the booing and jeering when Richard and Venus walked in – here’s the link to youtube if anyone wishes to see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcUcTMdn4dE

March 4th, 2009 at 1:26 am

the entire stadium was not booing venus and serena it was just a few people

March 4th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

tennisbebe, I believe it’s the same fine. You probably didn’t hear about his legal fees because, it’s not something he’s going to want to announce for everyone to know. I read about the figures in a recent article.

The figures might be quoted in Aussie dollars, thus the discrepancy. But he absolutely refused to pay the $30,000 on principle because he felt he was doing no wrong in skipping the interview. He didn’t stop when the legal fees piled up because he was confident he would win the case. Sounds kind of silly now doesn’t it?

That’s just the Hewitts. They’re an odd bunch. His dad is no different, and likely where he got his attitude from.

March 4th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

Giner – I thought it might be the same one – thanks for the explanation.

March 4th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

tenisbebe:

Here’s something I found that might be of help to you. Again, you will need to discuss this and the synvisc with your orthopedist.

http://www.vitacost.com/DailyHealthTip/Prescription-Chondroitin-May-Help-Knee-Osteoarthritis

March 4th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

Tenisbebe:

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March 4th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

Von:

You are a wealth of information! And so kind to share it with me. I will indeed discuss this with my ortho man. Muchas, muchas gracias!

P.S. I’m hoping to see DC on the “little” screen this weekend (as I don’t have the TC. Go USA!

March 4th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

Von:
I had to look up 5-Loxin – I’m taking the Osteo Bi-Flex (w/o 5-Loxin) & it’s working good – played today and this past weekend on HC’s for 2+ hours each and it’s holding up good but as the HC season continues… This is great, Thanks Von.

March 4th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

Tenisbebe:

You should try the Osteo Bi-Flex with the 5-loxin, yoy’d be amazed at the difference. Osteo is now made with 5-loxin and hyaluronic acid, which is one of the ingredients of Synvisc. Here’s a video for you:

http://www.osteobiflex.com/index.aspx

March 4th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

And I got a coupon too. Many, many thanks Von.

March 4th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

tenisbeb:

You’re welcome and don’t tell anyone that I never did anything for you. (smiley here)

March 4th, 2009 at 11:27 pm