Federer v Del Potro, Djokovic v Tsonga; Men’s French Open QF Picks And Pans: There Are No Easy Draws Left
by Sean Randall | June 4th, 2012, 7:32 pm
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After a super Sunday things settled back down today at the French Open. Five of the six matches finished with the favorite – my favorite – winning going away.

In two matches heldover from yesterday due to darkness, JW Tsonga thrilled the home crowd by securing the two games he needed to finish off a disheartened Stan Wawrinka 6-4 in the fifth. Argentine Juan Martin Del Potro had to put in a full set of work to turn away Tomas Berdych 7-5 in the fourth. Delpo grabbed an early break, gave it back but managed one more to close out the Czech.

Meanwhile, the scheduled matches went according to form despite the rotten weather. The Spanish trio of Rafael Nadal, David Ferrer and Nicolas Almagro pitched a shutout going 9-0. Nadal especially look good hammering buddy Juan Monaco 6-2, 6-0, 6-0. Thus far Nadal’s lost a total of 19 games en route to another French Open quarterfinal. By comparison, rival Roger Federer lost 18 games alone to Belgian lucky loser David Goffin on Sunday!

In the women’s field, qualifier Yaroslava Shvedova pulled the win of the day ousting defending champion Li Na in three sets. The upset leaves no former French Open winners remaining in the draw, and that makes Maria Sharapova, who’s bidding to complete her career Slam, the heavy favorite. But Sharapova nearly stumbled herself needing three sets to advance in a forgettable performance against Klara Zakapalova.

As for tomorrow, we finally get down to some serious tennis. With just nine sets to go for the winner, the prize is now within reach and with the final eight stacked, the easy draws that many have enjoyed are officially over. Let the tournament (and fun) really begin.

Novak Djokovic v JW Tsonga
The Serb is only three wins from an historic “Djoker Slam”, but to get it he’s going to have to beat three very tough players. That road begins Tuesday against the streaky, frenetic Tsonga. JW is going to have the crowd, the emotion and the energy. And if Djokovic comes out flat like he did against Seppi he’ll get steamrolled. But Novak won’t do that again, would he? He may not be playing as well as he did last year, but he’s better on clay than Tsonga and after losing four straight in this series, he’s beaten the Frenchman in four of their last five meetings, losing only at the 2010 Australian quarterfinal when the Serb was having stomach issues.

Still, based on the way Djokovic has been playing part of me thinks Tsonga pulls the upset. But as we saw today with Gasquet and have seen in the past, French players just don’t handle the big moments that well. And for Tsonga this could very be the biggest match of his career to date. Bigger than that Australian Open final he lost to Djokovic. This is Tsonga playing his first French Open quarterfinal against a World No. 1 on his home turf, Chatrier, with his country watching. But, somehow, Tsonga is thinking otherwise.

“For him it’s tougher, because he need to win,” Tsonga said of the pressure. “Me, for the moment, you know, I did my best results for the moment, so for me, it’s everything’s gonna be positive now. Of course, I will be free on the court because I have nothing to lose against this player who is No. 1 in the world. And anyway, the pressure will be on him.”

Sorry, JW, you also got the pressure! And you won’t talk yourself out of it no matter how hard you try.

Tsonga is certainly a high adrenaline big match player, but depsite his claim this stage is going to be just too big. As much as I’ll be rooting for Tsonga – I’m a fan – I think the teetering Djokovic finds his form, fixes his footwork and forges onward.
The pick: Djokovic in four

Roger Federer v Juan Martin Del Potro
The potential quarterfinal many of us forecasted when the draw was released is upon us. It’s big, bold power against Swiss timing for a 10th time. Federer has dominated the series 7-2 11-2 scoring four straight-set wins this season including a drubbing in this very round at the Australian Open.

But Del Potro did push Federer in five in a 2009 French Open cliffhanger before beating him in that US Open stunner. However, since coming back from that wrist injury Juan Martin is 0-11 against the Swiss in sets. That’s just not good.

That said, I give Del Potro a real chance Tuesday. Federer has been getting by against lesser competition playing his “B” game, and at times he’s looked vulnerable. That B game simply isn’t going to hold against Delpo who’s got the guns to exploit it.

“I play an unbelievable match,” Del Potro said assessing his chances against Federer. “Try to take my opportunities, serve 100%, trying to play winners with my forehand, with my backhand, and put him to raise his game. I don’t like to run too much, so I will try to be more aggressive than his game and looking at unbelievable shots.”

Today, Del Potro collected what possibly could have been the best victory in his comeback winning three of four sets against a very in-form and dangerous Berdych. That’s got to send the Argentine’s confidence sky high and it finally gives him the much-needed signature win.

But there are injury concerns in this one. Del Potro has a bad left knee which he says is still not 100%, however he doesn’t seem to care. He’s here to win. And thus far he’s looked pretty good in Paris.

At the start I picked Del Potro to beat Federer here in large part because I wasn’t convinced of Roger’s form. And he’s done little to sway my opinion. Like I said, if you’re losing sets to the Goffins, Mahuts and Ungurs, how are you going to fare against a formidible foe like Del Potro? It doesn’t bode well unless Roger raises his game like he’s done in the past.

And fortunately for the Swiss, that should be easier since he does have that huge head-to-head edge against Delpo and he’s got those four wins over him this year. But if the conditions remain cool, wet and heavy as they are suppose to be, I give the advantage to Delpo because he’s got the bigger game and the monster serve you need to hit through the slow slop. And he’s beaten Roger before.
The pick: Del Potro in four

As for the women’s I still like a Errani-Stosur semifinal so why change now?

Tennis Channel has coverage starting at 8am ET.

TUESDAY FRENCH OPEN SCHEDULE

Court Philippe Chatrier 2:00 PM Start Time
Dominika Cibulkova (SVK)[15] v. Samantha Stosur (AUS)[6]
Novak Djokovic (SRB)[1] v. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA)[5]
Aisam-Ul-Haq Qureshi (PAK)[10] v. Michael Llodra (FRA)[3]
Jean-Julien Rojer (NED)[10] Nenad Zimonjic (SRB)[3]

Court Suzanne Lenglen 2:00 PM Start Time
Sara Errani (ITA)[21] v. Angelique Kerber (GER)[10]
Roger Federer (SUI)[3] v. Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG)[9]
Andrea Hlavackova (CZE)[5] v. Kveta Peschke (CZE)[2]
Lucie Hradecka (CZE)[5] Katarina Srebotnik (SLO)[2]


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412 Comments for Federer v Del Potro, Djokovic v Tsonga; Men’s French Open QF Picks And Pans: There Are No Easy Draws Left

jane Says:

Interesting picks Sean; I see you stuck with your original picks. I say Fed in four. I don’t think Delpo has the confidence against Fed. And Delpo’s knee. If he is really hitting big, and Federror shows up, maybe Delpo can do it, but in 11 tries he’s won twice, and as you note, 0 sets even in ages. Put simply, Fed’s been consistent all year. As for Nole vs. Tsonga, like you, I vacillate. Looking at stats, Tsonga’s been serving very well but hitting a lot of errors. The crowd could be a factor, and Tsonga will use it, but Nole is pretty used to having them against him. The biggest question mark for me is Nole himself. Will Erratovic from the Seppi match show up or will the Serbinator show up? That could decide the winner.


jane Says:

Weather: tomorrow mostly cloudy but they are predicting rain for Wednesday.

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Paris+France+FRXX0076


TJ Says:

Respectfully, I disagree with your pick on the Federer-Delpo match. Fed did drop sets but keep in mind these were players, I believe, he didn’t ever play before and took some time figuring out their game. He steamrolled Goffin after dropping the first set. Fed DOES have another gear and an ability to play well enough to beat Djokovic, for example, when no one else could, and Djokovic was having his best year. Seriously, never count out Federer.


Sean Randall Says:

Jane, both matches could easily go the other way on me – Tsonga/Federer winning.

Djokovic just looked so sloppy against Seppi. Poor movement/footwork, lackadaisical. But I think the energy from the crowd, which was seriously lacking v Seppi, might kickstart him. We’ll see.

TJ, thanks for the comment, however Federer had played Mahut before and against Goffin he was two points from going 2 sets down serving 4-5, 15-30. Not sure I’d call that second set a “streamroll”.

I’m not counting out Fed, I just think on form this last 7 days Del Potro’s looking better and he’s conquered Fed before.


Mike Says:

Tsonga lost to djokovic in at ao final years back


Sean Randall Says:

Thanks Mike. Corrected.


Mike Says:

No prob …That was an awesome match, tsonga had a chance to take it i felt. Ive always liked this guy he has a personality that he feel could translate him to superstar status


jane Says:

Re the French Open crowd:

“It was a boo-bird’s paradise on Monday at Roland Garros. The fans booed the chair umpires whenever they made a call against a French player. They booed Maria Sharapova for taking too long to win. They booed Andy Murray for walking onto the court, and for grabbing his bad back when he got there. They even a found a way to briefly boo Rafael Nadal, who won 2, 2, and 0 over Juan Monaco. Finally, only when one of their countrymen, Richard Gasquet, was a game away from losing did they get up and do the Wave. They must have meant it sarcastically.”

http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2012/06/pictures-from-a-cold-island.html


mat4 Says:

jane,

did you read the last paragraph in that article? Brilliant…


jane Says:

Yes I read it all mat4. Loved it.


Kimmi Says:

i actually though it will be federer vs berdych, but great to see delpo winning today.

Federer admitted not playing well when interviews by tennis channel presenter after his match with mahut and goffin. Something is not clicking for him. He talked about – it could be the change of court surface, madrid, rome and rg. He also said it could be the injury he had in madrid etc.

I dont know what to expect. what can I say is, i hope he feels it tomorrow but if not delpo winning wont be too bad for me. I love delpo.


jane Says:

Stats for the big four after 4 matches. Since Nole doubles his errors in one match, he screwed his winners/errors count.

http://www.tennisplanet.me/blog/2012/06/djokovic-nadal-federer-and-murray-after-four-matches-a-piece-french-open-2012-just-one-stat-should-p.html


conty Says:

Ejoyed Seans take and that link from Tignor, jane. Nothing like being there and writing about it – how lucky he is to have that job!

All I know is that I picked Federer over Delpo, Djokovic over someone else, not Tsonga. Then have Djokovic in the final winning. I think my bracket sinks or “stinks”, as ColinO7 would say. I picked Ferrer over Murray and Rafa in the final losing. Completely dreaming, I guess because Erratovic might show up, though I want to think he’ll have a better day than vs Seppi. And Federer brings out his best and Delpo brings his worst = Federer makes the semi and it could be a Tsonga vs Nadal final. Nothing in the top half of the draw will surprise me. I would love for Delpo and Djokovic to have a good day tomorrow and win their matches, though.

If Murray plays like he did today, maybe he can beat Ferrer on clay! It seemed to help his mood being booed. Nadal appears invincible. Sunday will be tour de suisse day and my own long ride, if it’s a Fedal.


jane Says:

I know conty, and I like how attentive Tignor is to atmosphere. He captures it.

Agree about Murray; I am feeling that he can beat Ferrer and take on Rafa for a decent semi?

Also agree about the top – anything can happen with these aggressive and mercurial players. I could, feasibly, see any one of them in the final.

I didn’t know this: “The win put Tsonga into his first quarterfinal in Paris, which made him the first Frenchman to have reached the quarterfinals of all four Grand Slams in the Open Era. “


Kimberly Says:

Conty, lol colino7 has been wanting to visit rabbit Gary and grandma Joan pages to leave a “sorry your bracket stinks” but I told him not to.


Kimberly Says:

We tell him to use stinks instead of sucks but he uses both. Our fault as we scream “you suck” at the tv during tennis, basketball, and football.


Humble Rafa Says:

The winners of these 2nd tier matches will get an ultimate whooping from your Humble Highness as their gift.


conty Says:

wow. looking at those tennis planet numbers Nole really has the worst winner to UE ratio. And the time Federer has spent on court is so high by his standards.

Like to see what Tsonga and Delpo’s number look like. But there’s a mental element, you can’t nail down to a stat, exactly. If Roger is admitting he’s not okay, Kimmi – that’s not good. May the best man win. Love them both; same with Djokovic and Tsonga.

Really like Feds grey pajamas. Sharapova in grey and black looks good too.

Would love Dominika to win tomorrow, though in the final, Sharapova is going to win FO, I think.

Haha, colinO7 talking smack, Kimberly :D I told Greekboy how to log on and check his results but he’s pretty busy and only when I’m around does he pay any attention to tennis.


Wog boy Says:

Nole creates more than enough break points, he just doesn’t convert them as good as he used to. If he converted them in the first set with Seppi, plenty off them in the last couple of games, it would be 3:0 result.
Nole’s footwork is not as good as it was and because of that he doesn’t give himself best chance (enough time) for a best shot.
How many times he overplayed BH crosscourt against Seppi, or neted FH?
His servis is pretty good, his return game is good too.
Can he play as bad as he played against Seppi….I don’t think so.
Is he worried about French spectators…I don’t think so. They are by far the worst tennis spectators, I said that before and I am saying it now and he is used not to be cheered. I remember Paris masters when he won, it looked like they brought in football fans by mistake, no offence to football fans but it is different way of cheering.
The only one who can beat Nole (against Tsonga) is Nole himself.
I would like to see him and Federer in SF, that would be joy to watch for a change:)


Gannu Says:

Its going to be downright embarassing for Fed and Djoker or for that matter neone who faces Nadal now…He is going to slaughter them,…I think RG should just handover the cup this year and just play matches to see who will be the runner up…No one is even going to take Nadal to a tie break in this form…He has gone mad…


Wog boy Says:

European football I am talking about, not familiar with American football fans.


jane Says:

Wog Boy, agree on footwork and break point conversion, agree on all your points really.

conty, fully HALF of Nole’s errors were from the Seppi match (!!) so it’s kind of tough to read that stat and know how to interpret it. Before then he was in a high positive differential. Was that match a one-off bad-day-at-the-office or is it a bad omen? I honestly have no idea! I checked Tsonga’s stats but not Delpo’s. In every single match except the first one (where he was +2), Tsonga has hit more errors than winners, or at most equal. His serve has been good though. Don’t know about Delpo’s stats. Maybe I’ll go have a quick look.


Humble Rafa Says:

No one is even going to take Nadal to a tie break in this form

What is a tie break? Whatever it is, I am sure it is not close to 6-0,6-1 or 6-2.

Your Humble Highness has lost the least number of games for any player that has reached the QF EVER at Roland Garros.

Uncle Toni says 3 mistakes per match is 3 too many. Have to go practice now. See you between a bagel and a breadstick on Wednesday.


skeezer Says:

Humble Rafa,

They have Bagels and Breadsticks in Mallorca? I thought they only have Crackers, you know …….the ones you promote?


conty Says:

See, HR is actually funny. Roger anti-Federer Fan is just mean and bitter sounding, no humor at all.

Where are you finding the Delpo and Tsonga stats, jane? I like how Tennis Planet has them so easy to read for the top 4. and yes, Nole’s numbers really changed since the Seppi match. And I don’t know what to make of the fact Tsonga is in his 1st Quarterfinal FO. If Nole can find his form, he can beat Tsonga on clay in a GS Qtr. in his home court. But Erratovic and Federror were pretty bad, really. I sure spent time on TP just now watching the Goffin interview and looking photos with Federer, aw, too cute. Goffin takes the ball early and has plenty of talent. 5’11″ is about Davy’s height, isn’t it? Nalby isn’t 6 ft. either, and look at Ferrer….point being, Goffin could make something of himself, but then I thought that about Berankis and others, too.


jane Says:

Funny you mention Ferrer and Nalby conty; I said to my aunt yesterday that if I could just give a slam to any player, besides the top four, then I would give one to each of them: Ferrer for being so consistent, sweet and hard-working, and Nalby for sheer talent.

I was finding Tsonga stats match-by-match at the FO site, and just following the arrows back through the draws and matches

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/draws/ms/r4s1.html

But yeah I like how they are done at Tennis Planet. I always go there for the post-match photos – love them – and I happened upon those stats after the first round so I have been following them each round.

Delpo had more UEs than winners versus Berd: doesn’t bode well. A small plus versus Cilic. Better versus Vasselin. His first serve percentage has been pretty good but not a lot of aces. I dunno, but I think Fed.


trufan Says:

First, Fed is 11-2 over Delpo, not 7-2.

Both of those losses came in the Fall of 2009, when Delpo was in unbelievably form. Both went to a deciding set (5 sets at USO, 3 sets at YEC).

tennis is all about matchups. Some players are just bad matchups for the other. Nadal federer one clay is one of those situations. So is Federer Delpo, on virtually any surface.

Federer has always done “not that well” against players he has never played before. Remember Berdych at the Athens Olympics? He comes prepared for players he knows well. So I don’t give much weight to losing a set each to Ungur or Goffin – they both went for it with zero pressure, plus conditions were wet and windy.

If playing conditions are bad – wet, windy, etc. – like it was in 2010 when fed lost to soderling – then Delpo has some chance. If its a normal playing day, Fed will win. His low slices coupled with moving Delpo around (Delpo is a big guy who doesn’t like to move much, much like Serena Williams) will trouble DelPo enough, like in all of their previous encounters.

There’s not much on the line here for Fed. At the 2009 USO, he was going for 6 in a row at USO, plus 3 in a row (French, Wimby, then USO). So anyone would be under a bit of pressure in those circumstance. Plus, as I said, Delpo played an unbelievable summer and Fall then – he even reached No 4 briefly. He is nowhere near that form that destroyed Nadal 6-2 6-2 6-2.

Federer in 4.

the next one? Djokovic in 3. Tsonga can’t keep it together mentally, and Djokovic will be prepared. THe only “if” is that Djokovic has a long match in the 4th round, so he may be a bit tired and have a slow start. In which case, Djokovic in 4.

Lets see if I am right.


trufan Says:

As for Nadal, he can rejoice as much as he wants by beating a tired Monaco, or next his proven bitch Almagro – fact is he again lucked out.

I hope Ferrer Murray QF is short, so that whoever wins is fit enough to challenge Nadal. Otherwise Nadal will again get a tired, 2nd tier opponent. At least he should face a “fresh” second tier opponent, before he finally gets whipped by Djokovic.

Almagro is 3rd tier, so is Monaco.

Come wimbledon first round – Nadal will be praying he doesn’t get a big server and hitter to face – that’s when the grass is green, courts are fast, bounce is low, and Nadal is in trouble since he can’t just moonball.


conty Says:

“aggressive and mercurial player.” that’s a good way to describe what’s left in the top half, jane. Looking at stats the hard way. It does give a picture of perhaps their confidence when looking at BP conversion ratios and thinking about how each is serving compared to their sort of average performances. Federer needs to have a good serving day, as does Delpo….well, all of them in the top half need it. Rafa is different. His consistency and perfection right now…unreal. I’m guessing Almagro may get 4-6 games off Rafa, maybe. I could see him winning this FO without dropping a set. Pity the guy across the net.

Also noticed Murray’s ace count went up. ha! he got aggressive today – I’m watching the DVR of that match now. No lady forehand today. It’s true, he was looking more like the Murray of the AO semi. Of course, Gasquet started helping out.


Kimberly Says:

Not sure about the spurs…..I hear thunder coming


jane Says:

Yeah a bit of crashquet, but Muzza was also huzza! He brought it. The forehand, droppers, a lob or two. He was giving it to those Frenchies for the boo-bird paradise. hee hee.


trufan Says:

Well, problem is Murray and Ferrer are both sort of equals when it comes to clay. They both like to play long rallies – and they might just wear each other out in 5 long sets before one of them wins – and then is too tired for the semi with Nadal.

If Nadal faces a fresh Ferrer, or even a fresh Murray, he will get tested. Murray could probably take a set off Nadal if he is fresh. Ferrer? If he is fresh and takes the first set, who know, he has the potential to go all the way, since he (Ferrer) plays like Nadal – its not that he plays very well, he makes his opponent play really badly. Wilander said this too.


Michael Says:

True, Del Potro has a good chance to beat Roger this time around since the latter is not in good form at the moment. But Roger’s form will come back with flying colours once he sees players like Del Potro, Soderling, Ferrer, Roddick, Davydenko etc. on the other side of the net. He has such a fantastic record over them and it is surprising that he has done it with such ease considering that they are all very brilliant players. That brings us to the issue of match ups. While the likes of Murray, Novak struggles against players like Ferrer, Del Potro etc., Roger does the job with ease.


trufan Says:

Federer plays pretty well against players he has played many times before….

Except Nadal on clay, where, of course, his one-handed backhand becomes a liability.


jane Says:

Michael, they haven’t met Delpo as many times, but so far:

Nole vs. Delpo 4-1
Murray vs. Delpo 5-1

Both have indeed had more troubles versus Ferrer though:

Nole vs. Ferrer 8-5
Murray vs. Ferrer 5-4


Atom Says:

Rooting for FED to play today in GOD mode :)


Atom Says:

Djokovic – 2008 AUS open winner + 3 years = 2012 Aus open winner

Del Potro – 2009 Us open winner + 3 years may be 2012 Us open winner ???


Lisa Says:

With all do respect, both Federer and Djokovic have 2 very tough opponants in their quaterfinal match….

As to who come out victorious, only time will tell….lets hope to see great matches…..Cheers all…:)


madmax Says:

Wishing Roger good luck today. Another quarter final. 32 in a row. That’s the record for me. Here on in as skeezer would say, it’s gravy.

Don’t have any expectations. Hope Roger plays a good game, a great game, a winning game. Dont think he will win RG, for obvious reasons, but Roger will always be “my” best.

Good luck Roger!

C’mon!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

If Roger has picked up an issue in Madrid, then all the gloating about Roger’s adaptness to different surface would sound foolish now.

Rafa had been a smart and intelligent tennis player for past 5 years. He seems to know when to peak and what tournament to skip. He knew he had to give up on Madrid to get much bigger things.

Looks like he is in 2008 form when he went on a tear starting the clay season till Olympics. This time he may steamroll till USO.

If Roger reached Final to face Nadal, the big question would be can be defend those 4 games he won against Nadal in 2008. Looks like it would be a big ask for him.


trufan Says:

“Rafa had been a smart and intelligent tennis player for past 5 years. He seems to know when to peak and what tournament to skip. He knew he had to give up on Madrid to get much bigger things.’

Ha ha, that’s the biggest load of crap I have heard in a while!

So Nadal “gave up” in madrid? He just got beat. Even in the first round, he didn’t do that well. HE just couldn’t adapt to a faster clay, but was not man enough to admit it – started blaming the surface, the color, everything.

Of course, in typical Nadal double speak, he also said the other player was better than him on that day blah blah. Even when he congratulates his opponents, he ALWAYS sneaks in an excuse – either a hint of injury, or in this case, the courts.

Always blaming something else if he loses. When he wins, its all perfect, no injuries, no court problems, nothing.

BS.


trufan Says:

Nadal is successful primarily because of his will to win. I don’t think I have ever seen a player who is that strongly motivated to win every single point!

Every point he plays, its as if he is seeking revenge against someone. Its as if he is playing against someone who abused him or something. Every point is played with enormous hostility towards the opponent.

And all credit to him, he really can will himself to a level that perhaps nobody else in tennis every has.

It doesn’t seem like he is playing for the joy of the game, or that he is really enjoying himself on the court.

This fierce do or die attitude really helps him win many matches he would lose otherwise, to players who are much superior to him skill wise (they just don’t have the will power, and then the physical power to stay with him for 3, 4, 5, hours).

Except Djokovic.

That’s why Nadal is scared of him.


Dave Says:

According to my psychic, both Federer’s and Djokovic’s matches may not be completed or even started on Tuesday. Currently, rain is forecast from 2 p.m. Paris time on Tuesday. Rain is also forecast for Wednesday. It gets worse on Thursday — thundershowers are forecasted. The players who can deal with the unpredictable waiting and heavy damp conditions have an advantage.
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/hourlyfx/frxx0076/hourlytable/1/?ref=tabs_hourly_table

Novak Djokovic vs. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga [H2H stats]
This link is versatile because it allows you to customize date you want for a player or for H2H match ups for players.
http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=NovakDjokovic&f=A0&q=JoWilfriedTsonga


Nirmal Kumar Says:

HE just couldn’t adapt to a faster clay, but was not man enough to admit it – started blaming the surface, the color, everything.

I think you are getting confused here. It’s not that Rafa couldn’t adapt, he just did not want to adapt. He is a player to adapted to Grass and won it 2 times at Wimbledon beating Roger. Roger is yet to beat Rafa in FO. It’s safe to say Rafa has adapted better.

He knows it would kill his prospects for the season if he puts too much on Madrid. He is just too smart.

Ultimately he is the player who is going to smile with atleast 2 GS and No 1 by USO.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

That’s why Nadal is scared of him.

We all know what happened to Nadal being scared against Novak in their last 2 match.

This fierce do or die attitude really helps him win many matches he would lose otherwise, to players who are much superior to him skill wise

Most ridiculous statement. He is just superior in skill to Roger. That’s why he beats him, not by Will power. Just that he plays better tennis.


steve-o Says:

Federer didn’t pick up any “issue” in Madrid–maybe some minor niggles, but he always has those (the difference is he doesn’t spend a lot of time complaining about them). He came in totally cold, unlike the top two players, and he won.

Fact is, what Federer did in Madrid was a throwback to what players like Connors (won USO on grass/hard courts/green clay) and Borg did. Adjust their game to win on drastically different surfaces.

These days the courts are so homogeneous and standardized. Everyone plays the same game everywhere.

It would be a fascinating experiment, and I think good for the tour, if they sped up Wimbledon and USO back to where they were in the 90s while keeping AO and RG the same.

I suspect Djokovic and Nadal would fall off drastically in the latter half of the season, especially Nadal.

Already Nadal is a non-force during the indoor hard court season. On fast grass and hard courts, where the points are short and the server has a much bigger advantage, he would be lost. If he can’t extend the rally, he can’t do anything.

Djokovic would do better than Nadal on fast hard courts, but he would also have trouble on fast grass.

Federer would simply adjust to the changing conditions and continue to dominate throughout the season–even at his age. We’d see him become more of a serve-and-volley, net-rushing player on the fast surfaces, and then on the slower surfaces, use his baseline game a bit more. He is the most adaptable player in the game, perhaps one of the most adaptable in the history of the game.


Dave Says:

Roger Federer vs. Juan Martin Del Potro [H2H stats]
http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RogerFederer&f=A0&q=JuanMartinDelPotro

Federer wins in three sets (55%) or four sets (30%). Heck why not five sets (15%) since the semifinal will be played on Friday, so the winner gets Wednesday and Thursday to recover. Of course that’s assuming the match even gets started with all the rain forecasted on Tuesday afternoon, Wednesday and Thursday.

What Federer’s doomsayers fail to understand about Federer — despite the ample evidence to contrary he has given us for many, many years — is that Roger is one of those very rare players with the special gift to switch it on. At Indian Wells (whose courts were slowed down even further this year, according to Stakhovsky), Federer dropped sets in the second and third round against Raonic and Bellucci. Then out of the blue Roger woke up to roll over Del Potro (6-3, 6-2), Nadal (6-3, 6-4) and Isner (7-6, 6-3) to win the title. Roger did all this while recovering from the flu and negotiating prize money increases for players with representatives from the Slams at Indian Wells. Most people — for whom tennis is not a gift — need to work hard to fine tune their game, and such people find it hard to understand gifted players who operate on a different wavelength. Normal rules of logic don’t apply with such players.

In any case, Federer remains a winner with the soul of a champion: since after 2011 US Open, Federer is 52-4, Djokovic 40-9 and Nadal 47-8. Federer has not just won 236 grand slam matches (against just 35 loses), Roger is currently tied in second place with Lendl for most match wins at the French Open (if Roger wins this French Open he will tie Vilas for most match wins). Even though nothing is tennis is 100% certain, the logical play is not to bet against him.

Del Potro’s victory over Berdych was not unexpected. Despite Berdych being in form, Tomas made the mistake of over playing the week before the French Open started (four matches in the World Team Championship) as well as having that five setter against Kevin Anderson in the previous round. Berdych is the only top ten player that Delpo has beaten on clay this year. Whatever sky-high confidence Delpo will shrink whenever reality sets in that he has failed to make a dent on Federer in five straight matches since 2011 Cincinnati. As well, Federer has beaten Delpo both times they played on clay.

Yes, Delpo did push a nervous Federer in five in a 2009 French Open cliffhanger. And Delpo did beat Federer in that 2009 US Open stunner and again in the 2009 World Tour Finals round robin — the only 2 times in 13 tries that Delpo won — but consider that “it appears more and more obvious that Roger Federer’s troublesome back was at least a partial explanation for his late-match fade in the U.S. Open final against Juan Martin del Potro” (Google Tom Tebbutt’s article: “Federer’s back needs a break”).


Dave Says:

According to my psychic, both Federer’s and Djokovic’s matches may not be completed or even started on Tuesday. Currently, rain is forecast from 2 p.m. Paris time on Tuesday. Rain is also forecast for Wednesday. It gets worse on Thursday — thundershowers are forecasted. The players who can deal with the unpredictable waiting and heavy damp conditions have an advantage.
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/hourlyfx/frxx0076/hourlytable/1/?ref=tabs_hourly_table


Dave Says:

Novak Djokovic vs. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga [H2H stats]
This link is versatile because it allows you to customize date you want for a player or for H2H match ups for players.
http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=NovakDjokovic&f=A0&q=JoWilfriedTsonga


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Federer would simply adjust to the changing conditions and continue to dominate throughout the season–even at his age.

So the definition of dominance is reaching Quarters and Semis of a GS. I got it. Roger does dominate the tour on all surface.

On fast grass and hard courts, where the points are short and the server has a much bigger advantage, he would be lost

Rafa has two Wimbledon. So not sure what the statement is about. He is a USO champion on fast HC.

Just SMH, why there is a illusion that Nadal does not do well in Fast courts? He is a champion on all surfaces, but the greatest on clay.

Problem for Rafa is since he is so dominant in Clay, he is judged on other surfaces by the same standard. But outside clay he has done great things on HC and Grass.


trufan Says:

Nirmal,

If Nadal simply plays better tennis against Federer, then why does he still lose to him so often outside of clay, and has a losing record 6-8 outside of clay, in spite of age advantage?

And if he is so good, why does he get thrashed on indoor courts?

yeah right, nadal didn’t WANT to adapt to the blue clay. Fact is – he doesn’t have the skills to adapt to a new surface in just a few hours of play. He needs to toil for years to adapt to a new surface. Federer, on the other hand, is versatile enough to adapt to new conditions pretty fast. That’s skill. What nadal has is loads of stamina, speed and perseverance. What federer has is loads of skill, elegance, and versatility.

The moonballing only works on clay.

WHey else did nadal lose 10 matches even in his best year (2010), all of them outside of clay?

Nadal is the least well rounded player ever, of all top players that have played this sport – single dimension – moonball, then run like a rabbit for 10 hours. Not much else there.


trufan Says:

Nirmal,

Then what happens to Nadal at the indoor courts at YEC, if his game is so great?

6/10 slams are clay.

33/47 titles are clay.

16/21 masters titles are clay.

Djokovic has a better resume outside of clay then Nadal.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

If Nadal simply plays better tennis against Federer, then why does he still lose to him so often outside of clay, and has a losing record 6-8 outside of clay, in spite of age advantage?

I think you need to re-check the GS record between these two before commenting.

Outside GS, Rafa does not care. That’s why I said he is the smartest tennis player of this era. He is going to win Slams when he is 30, not like Roger who seems to put more effort on minor tournaments.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

trufan.. you need to understand that Rafa is reaching he peak on non-clay slams. In next 2-3 years, he would be having another 4 slams on non clay and will be either equal to or more slams than Roger. He is not done yet like Roger. He has slam winning capacity for another 4-5 years.


trufan Says:

You are really funny, Nirmal!

As for stats, Fed is 2-2 with Nadal outside of clay, 0-5 on clay. Obviously, its a clay story. Both of those losses outside of clay came when Fed was 27 or more in age.

As for Nadal winning slams outside of clay – the guy hasn’t even won a tour level title outside of clay since 2010!! Don’t tell me he doesn’t care. First, how would you know, do you talk to him? Second, if you have ever watched him play, he tries fricking hard whether it is clay or not. He is always fighting, I will give him that. He has tried plenty hard but just can’t put together a win in even an ATP 500 tournament outside of clay since his peak form in 2010.

As for lasting that long – its beyond funny if you think Nadal will last longer than Fed has (in terms of age). Fed is flirting with 2/3 ranking even at close to 31, with some chance of even reaching No 1 at this age. Nadal won’t even be top 4 by then. The moment he slows down a bit and loses some of his clay points, his ranking will plummet. Clay contributes a big chunk to his ranking points and title wins.


trufan Says:

As for USO, Nadal got the easiest draw possible in 2010 (do you even remember his semi opponent??). Djoke had a tough 5 setter against Fed, while Nadal steamrolled youzhny I think. Had Nadal faced any decent hard court player before the finals, he wouldn’t have won that.

AUS open is OK, he does well there since it is a slow surface. He isn’t getting many more slams after this french title, wait and watch. He will get stuck somewhere between 11 and 13, and that will be it.


trufan Says:

And as for Nadal not caring – does he not care about the YEC either? I doubt it. When Fed drubbed him 6-0, 6-3 last year, that was Nadal getting thrashed, not Nadal not being interested in winning.

So much for fast court skills.

If they hadn’t slowed down the balls in wimbledon, Nadal would have never won it. That’s a well known fact (that Wimbledon changed balls in the early part of the last decade, which made it easier for baseliners).

And no, Federer is not just a baseliner. When he beat Sampras in 2001, he served and volleyed almost all the time. First and second serves.


trufan Says:

As for skill level – clay is Fed’s least strong surface – though is still a top 10 clay courter in the open era. 5 french finals, 1 title, 6 clay masters, and only lost many others to the all time clay GOAT.

Nadal’s weakest surface is indoors. Boy, if there was ever a blank that was drawn, this was it! Nadal indoors is like Sampras on clay – miserable.

That’s clear enough about who has more skill.

SKILL. not tenacity, or stamina, or gamesmanship. We are talking about skill. Just to clarify for you Nirmal.


Mark Says:

Yeh skill! Trufan your man is a choker with all his yearrrrs of experience. Choked away 2/3 match points in US Open in 2010 against djoker and guess what he did the very same thing in 2011again in US Open against the djoker. Talk about lightning striking twice!! Your man has lost it on the big stage! Face facts!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Trufan..So you only argument against Nadal is Indoors? Ok, so do we have a Slam on Indoors. Let’s see how Nadal fares if there is a slam on Indoors. Till then let’s not put too much weightage on his lack of success there.

I believe Nadal leads Roger in HC slam. Has Roger beaten NAdal in a HC slam yet? Nadal has beaten Roger in Grass, whereas Roger has not won a match against Nadal in Clay. It’s ridiculous to keep harping about Roger’s age. Roger won 2 slams in 2009 but lost to Rafa in AO 09. Is it because of age?

Where does Roger really score against Nadal? If they meet again in Wimbledon, rest assured Roger will lose in Straights.

Ok, we are talking about Youzny being a less tough opponent. Let’s glance through some of the opponents of Roger’s slam finals. I could see Gonzalez and Baghdatis. How tough are they. So should we not include those finals in Roger’s slam count.

So Rafa does not have the skill. You mean, he won 10 GS matches without any tennis skill. Common sense does not accept it.


dari Says:

Good luck and good play to Roger today! Love delpo as well, but these days gotta root for my old guy to go as deep as possible in the slams! Won’t be able to watch live but hope dor a great match from.both!


trufan Says:

common sense is not something you (Nirmal and Mark) should talk about.

As for skill, nobody is saying nadal has no skill. Guess you have trouble reading English?

Nadal has LESS skill than Federer. I hope you can understand this simple sentence.

As for saying age doesn’t matter – you are crazy. 5 years is half the lifetime of a tennis player.

Again, facts don’t seem your forte. Only 2008 onwards did Nadal really surge ahead of fed in H2H, that too mostly on clay. That was when Fed hit 27. If they meet again at Wimbledon, you can bet your panties Fed will win. Even on clay last year – it was pretty competitive for 3 hours.

Nadal’s clay record is the one that pulls him to the level he is at. Outside of clay, he is a pretty good player, but not great. And that too since he is a monster in terms of sheer will and stamina – not extraordinary skill.


trufan Says:

common sense is not something you (Nirmal and Mark) should talk about!

As for skill, nobody is saying nadal has no skill. Guess you have trouble reading English, ha?

Nadal has LESS skill than Federer. I hope you can understand this simple sentence.

As for saying age doesn’t matter – you are crazy. 5 years is half the lifetime of a tennis player.

Again, facts don’t seem your forte. Only 2008 onwards did Nadal really surge ahead of fed in H2H, that too mostly on clay. That was when Fed hit 27. If they meet again at Wimbledon, you can bet your panties Fed will win. Even on clay last year – it was pretty competitive for 3 hours.

Nadal’s clay record is the one that pulls him to the level he is at. Outside of clay, he is a pretty good player, but not great. And that too since he is a monster in terms of sheer will and stamina – not extraordinary skill.


trufan Says:

As for dismissing indoors? Yeah right, sour grapes. What a great player Nadal is, not a single YEC. Even Guga won one.


Kimberly Says:

sorry, not to dis any of the people who have won indoors, but I’m from Florida and indoor tennis is something I cannot even conceptualize.


Mark Says:

Trufan. Are you still ranting? I think you are delirious. Go get yourself a drink and settle your nerves!!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Nadal has LESS skill than Federer. I hope you can understand this simple sentence

Not sure on what criteria you say Nadal is less skilled. He is having better H2H against Roger in HC slam and Clay slams. So, maybe in Grass Roger is better skilled. But to evaluate that Roger needs to start doing better at Wimbledon, but going past Quarters and reaching Finals. He is not giving chance to Rafa at Wimbledon to beat him consistently.

Looks like Rafa has better skills than Roger atleast in their H2H.

I’m not dismissing indoors, but the fact that there is no GS in indoors is a proof for it’s importance.

We cannot compare Sampras with Rafa. No one is saying Sampras did not reach Finals of MC or Rome. The only point is about FO, since there is a clay slam. Where is a Indoor slam for Rafa to be criticized?

Though Rafa is less than 6 slams to Roger, I can’t see him not winning more slams than Roger by the end of his career. There is no active player to stop him from doing that.


Michael Says:

Jane,

True. Both Murray and Novak have a better head to head record with Del Potro than with Ferrer. But I have seen these players struggle against Del Potro whenever they play each other although they have positive H2H. Nadal too struggles against Potro and Ferrer despite having a good H2H record. But Roger’s case is different. Except for that one US Open blemish which was a stroke of luck I would say for Potro, he has consumed him with ease relatively speaking. As regards Ferrer, the less said the better and he has not even taken many sets against Roger, forget about a win. On the other hand, you have Roger struggling against the likes of Murray, Novak and Nadal. That brings us to the issue of match-ups and confidence. I think Roger loses in his mind when he plays against Nadal and Novak and he doesn’t produce his “A” class game which is sufficient to dislodge the best in the game.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Trufan, I agree with WEC. It’s an important tournament Rafa has not won yet. But his career is not over. At what age did Roger win FO? Was it before 26. So why are you in a hurry.

Rafa has atleast 4 years to win WEC. I don’t see anyone other than Roger stopping Rafa in WEC. Rafa may get a chance just like Roger got a FO. Someone may knockout Roger and Rafa can get through.


Michael Says:

Nirmal,

In your pursuit of idolizing Nadal, please do not belittle Roger and his achievements in the Sport. Nadal is a Great player and anyone who doubt it will be a fool who doesn’t know Tennis. He has a good record against Roger in majors and that is not an ordinary achievement. Infact in the absence of Nadal, Roger would have something around 20 I would say by now. Despite all these, the fact is Roger is a more versatile player than Nadal which even the latter accepts. It is Roger’s movement on court which is of much envy to other players. He rarely sweats but is in control of the shot most of the time. Moreover, Nadal mostly is a one dimensional player who plays according to one plan. He has no plan B in case A fails. Whereas you have Roger who can change his game in a matter of moments. It is another matter that it may or may not work. Nadal is a defensive player whereas Roger stands for aggression. These two players are markedly different. Roger is disadvantaged by the fact that age is not on his side and also the Courts which have become slow for some reason or other. On fast courts, Roger will be having advantage over players like Novak, Nadal etc., and that is the reason for Roger’s brilliant performance at the US Open which is relatively a fast surface and Roger has made 8 continuous semis there. Can you believe it – 8 straight semis.


skeezer Says:

Who’s the most complete player?


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Michael,

I agree to some of your points. Just to let you know, I’m a huge Roger fan, not a Rafa fan. But I can’t understand people belittle Rafa’s tennis when compared to Roger. I just like Rafa too.

Roger and Rafa are opposite poles, but they are not inferior to each other. That’s my point. I don’t think Rafa is a one dimensional player. These are the points which frustrates me.

On what basis he is called a one dimensional player?

How can a one dimensional player beat Roger everywhere in a slam from 2008. I just can’t understand this.

Roger is an artist with a tennis racquet. No doubt. But Nadal is equally good as a tennis player. Let’s not forget that and dismiss him as clay wonder.

Roger’s absolute best is beyond any tennis players reach. Probably this is one point any one with tennis knowledge will agree. But the problem for Roger is Nadal’s average best is better than Roger’s. It’s a simple fact. That’s why Roger can’t beat Rafa in a 5-setter, where more sets are played and you need to play your average level for most of the time.

In 3-setter, you can play your absolute best for a stretch of 6-8 games and the match is done. That what Roger did to Rafa in IW. He went on a rampage from 3-3 in 1st set to 4-2 in second set. That was enough in a 3-setter. But in 5-setter it’s a different scenario.


Lisa Says:

Roger Federer is a ‘God’…… I mean the stuff he does on and off court, how he handles family, extremely likable personality, profession, unbelievable skills(which will all never be seen again, ever I think….because its not like magic, its Magic)…..plus also being 2nd most respected person in the world??…….its all unbelivable…..Godly, Godly, Godly…….

But the only person who showed/reminded all of mankind that Roger Federer is human is……..Rafael Nadal….


Mike Says:

Man you guys analyze the heck out of Roger, rafa and djokovic.

I love it!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Who’s the most complete player?

Not sure if there could be one, unless there is a clear definition of complete.


Brando Says:

Tsonga’s going to CHOKE in this one- you heard it here first!


NachoF Says:

Here we go again. Roger is in trouble.


Sean Randall Says:

Djokovic has found his footing, taken the crowd out of it and dominating Tsonga.

No sloppy conditions today, does that help Federer? I think it should.


the mind reels Says:

Federer Tsonga are both off to terrible starts. Djokovic is playing well, but del Potro isn’t doing anything special.


Brando Says:

@sean Randall: I have said it ALL along, and let’s be honest here, tsonga’s the WEAKEST top 8 player on clay. He beat a tired wawa in 5, the crowd can support him BUT can’t play the match for him now can they. His recent record against novak is poor anyhow. It’s an EASY win for novak.


skeezer Says:

Who can do all the shots on all the surfaces and has the most wins doing it?

The complete player.


Sean Randall Says:

Brando, no doubt. Tsonga should rise up for a set. I he shouldn’t get completely destroyed.

Federer is still playing his “B/C” game. That isn’t going to work today.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Who can do all the shots on all the surfaces and has the most wins doing it?

Then I don’t see any single player who could be complete. Maybe Rafa on clay, Roger and Sampras on HC and Sampras on Grass.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Not sure if Tsonga is playing bad or Novak is just supreme. Novak’s timing seems to be exquisite and the sunny conditions may be allowing him to time is ball better, since it comes quickly to his racquet.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger should try and take Del Po to 5-sets. Don’t think big man can last the full distance.


Brando Says:

@sean Randall: true- fed needs A GAME today.


Sean Randall Says:

Brando, unless Delpo combusts.


van orten Says:

fed should lead this easily but his errors just hurt him too much


van orten Says:

fed at his giving best!!!


Lisa Says:

If Fed is playing B/C instead of A, it shows he is extremely confident in this match….But hope it does bear fruits for him….


Sean Randall Says:

Both players struggling. If Fed can somehow comeback and win this set he’ll take the match.

If Delpo gets this first set it’ll settle his nerves – he looks rather nervy to me.


van orten Says:

now the match has to start for fed!!!! delpo normal play lots of errors too but fed really really pushing hard to leave roland garros today


van orten Says:

he should have never lost this set.. hence the breaks for delpo were all caused by sloppy play by federer…delpo is tough if you dont play your best game


the mind reels Says:

So many unforced errors for Federer (12). He still had chances to level that set, which I suppose is good news for fans, but he needs to put more first serves in (48%) and control his forehand a bit more.

1 for 3 on break chances isn’t going to cut it either today. Ugh.


Brando Says:

federer can still win this.

He needs to be more SOLID on his own serve, NOT GIVE PACE to del potro in the rallies, and ALSO try to got to the NET more often.

right now, he’s giving delpo too much pace to play with and he’s having to do alot of defending.


Sean Randall Says:

Poor first set from both guys but Del Potro comes out ahead.

Djokovic has given up his stranglehold letting Tsonga and the crowd back in it.


skeezer Says:

Federer IS the most complete player in this era. He has the most success on all surfaces, and show me another player who has the variety of shotmakin skills?

However, Fed ain’t showing it today so far :(


NachoF Says:

Just awful tennis from Federer. deserves to lose.


Sean Randall Says:

A few rain drops starting to fall?

Tsonga has gotten up off the mat, will Federer? I think so.


Brando Says:

fed’s not playing bad really, just needs to change tactics imo.


van orten Says:

struggling to generate pace


Brando Says:

beautiful play there by federer!


Brando Says:

that’s the tactic: be more INSIDE the court, go to the net often, play some droppers to draw delpo in etc.

fed CAN WIN this one people


Nirmal Kumar Says:

He has the most success on all surfaces,

Nadal has completed career slam younger than Roger. Rafa has beaten Roger in Grass, whereas Roger has not beaten Rafa on clay. Based on these criteria, maybe Rafa got to be more complete player then.

Note, Rafa has beaten Roger on all surfaces in GS, whereas Roger has beaten Rafa only on Grass. Not even on HC.


NachoF Says:

Tactic? lets focus on at least keep the ball in play! unforced errors are out of control.


TJ Says:

Big shout from Federer to get break point. He wants this.


NachoF Says:

YES!!!


TJ Says:

I agree NachoF. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


oggy Says:

Tsonga lives… he’s an incredible volleyer, some ridiculous shots he made on the net. He’s started going for much more and it’s started clicking. Nole’s form has dipped ever so slightly, and voila, a huge momentum shift. Tsonga 2 points away from the set.


van orten Says:

the moment fed finds his own pace to get delpo out of comfort zone wide out of the court like the last two points he is in charge !!!but hey he is playing vs a great player..now this seems to become a very good match!!!!


TJ Says:

Sidenote: Tsonga with break point to take the 2nd set off Djokovic!


the mind reels Says:

Wow. Fed breaks and Tsonga with double set point.


TJ Says:

Fed gonna lose the break. Saw this coming. Ughhhh


jane Says:

Oh what a cakewalk for Nole. Number 5 player in the world on home soil with nothing to lose. Took out both Rafa and Fed in slams before, yeah, EASY! Lol!


NachoF Says:

are you serious?… awful tennis from Federer


queen Says:

Djokovic’s grunting is more annoying than Azarenka’s. Shut up and lose already!!! Go Jo!!


van orten Says:

hahhahaha eat my words…fed is really in trouble…


NachoF Says:

I have no clue what hes doing. missing every shot!


Piet Says:

Novak let Jo back into the match. That can prove to be costly


van orten Says:

fed is not finding pace…slow conditions .this is like vs the sod in ’10…big chance for delpo breaking in the next service game ..cuz fed is completly playing without 1st serve at tight situations!!!!!


TJ Says:

Anyone, anyone know why Fed is playing so poorly? Is he sick, injured? He’s looked not as great this tourney. Is it the clay? He is still GREAT but what is going on?!


Brando Says:

that was DJOKOVIC’S FAULT- WHY didn’t he go for the DTL winner?

Could it be that he is unsure of himself……


ertorque Says:

it’s simply uncomprehensible the way Fed is playing!! He really is rattled and hitting too many UEs.


van orten Says:

delpo practically returning every serve


van orten Says:

at least it is delpo!!!!!


ertorque Says:

another forehand error……what the HHHH is going on?


Sean Randall Says:

Federer’s going to need to find that “A” game. It’s there. it’s in the “toolbox”.

This will work against Goffin or Unger, but not Del Potro. And Del Potro isn’t even playing that great!

Very surprising.


van orten Says:

what was that??????


Daniel Says:

DelPo is smacking the ball tryin to break this Fed game!


van orten Says:

fed at his defending best…!!!delpo firing his complete arsenal at fed


Daniel Says:

Great hold!!


TJ Says:

Can we just get a Fed-break and serve for the set pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee


van orten Says:

0:30!!!


van orten Says:

15:40!!!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Expect Roger to lose both BP and lost his next game.


van orten Says:

uuuuu delpoo lucky there !!!!this could be his day


Humble Rafa Says:

Expect Roger to lose both BP and lost his next game.

Exactly what your HH was thinking.


van orten Says:

what aggressive footwork by fed ..another bp!!


van orten Says:

hurts watching that match…he had it and now’???


van orten Says:

as i said before this could be delpos day not because he is in uberform..but roger is not taking his chances…was a bit unlucky there at bp but this will cost him dearly …


Sean Randall Says:

Both guys avoid trouble, Djokovic also.

Sensing Federer takes this set. Both guys had key break chances there, Federer should handle the missed opp better but he’ll have to serve to stay in it, quite a tall prop given the way it’s been going.


Humble Rafa Says:

Mission accomplished! Squandered break points galore. Now on to the next step. Lose serve.


TJ Says:

Sean, what makes you think Fed gets the set if he holds here for 5-5?


the mind reels Says:

Federer looking better in this service game. Out to a 40-0 lead.


van orten Says:

great easy hold


Sean Randall Says:

TJ, Fed’s playing better now. And Del Potro having a hard time adjusting to Fed’s improvement.

I also think it’s lingering in Delpo’s mind those missed chances.


van orten Says:

bad return on second serve …come on fed..focus!!!!


the mind reels Says:

30-all here. Big point.


van orten Says:

this is tenseeeeeee!!!!! now he has to hold to force the breaker…sean is right that fed is now in every service game of delpo…delpo saved himself already into tie break


Daniel Says:

Damm, this DelPo FH was US Ipen like!

Fed survived DelPo attack this last point. Wow!


TJ Says:

I can’t watch this.


Lisa Says:

If Fed wins this set, he’ll win the match…


van orten Says:

fed is in trouble..believe delpo has the breaker already because at least he has a serve !!!!


TJ Says:

If he loses this set, do you think he can still win the match Lisa?


van orten Says:

delpo is in the match thanks to his serve!!!!


Daniel Says:

Damm, what a level they are playing!


TJ Says:

Ok, who else thinks this is over? I am out of hope.


van orten Says:

it is only over when it is over !!!!


Daniel Says:

Where is DelPo coming with this shots from?! Suddenly he finds a deep ball or a line ball. Amazing, seems this is his day!


Maso Says:

Damn… Federer’s lacking firepower to counter Del Potro. This is going to be a gargantuan feat if he wants to come back from 2 sets down. Not that I mind Del Potro going to the semis or anything, he’s a player I rather enjoy watching, but this is gonna be tough for Rog.


ertorque Says:

i think it’s over……..fed has met his match today.


Brando Says:

damn… IF fed loses this (likely) that means heas to get to wimby final BEFORE he can start gaining points in order to be no.1 again… looks tough right now if im being honest…


van orten Says:

fed in my humble opinion was the better player since 4:4 and had it on his racquet!!but he is playing without any service winner ..unlike delpo who had at least 2-3 service winners alone in the breaker…


TJ Says:

Wow: ‏@SI_BTBaseline
“Shut up!” Roger yells (in English) at the pro-him crowd. They keep audibly admiring his shots mid-rally. That’s actually ur fault, Fed.


Maso Says:

But I agree with van orten, it ain’t over till it’s over! Roger’s chances aren’t good but it’s still possible.


Lisa Says:

@TJ

That would be a big ask….honestlydont think so…..but you can never right the great man off….


Lisa Says:

@TJ

That would be a big ask….honestly dont think so…..but you can never right the great man off….


TJ Says:

IF (big if) Fed can win this set, do you think he could win the match or what?


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Lets keep it simple. Roger is a champion of 3-set tournaments. Anything else he does on Slams is a bonus.


Brando Says:

if were being BRUTALLY HONEST- has fed being playing well in this tourny really?

he’s lost 3 sets to unheralded opponents prior to this, he got blitzed by novak in rome sf- so should today come as a massive surprise?

the pleasing thing, for me, watching fed today was how he seemed angry at the end of that TB… it SHOWS HE STILL WANTS IT!


Maso Says:

If Roger takes the third, anything can happen. Though he needs Juan Martin to ruin out of juice. If he keeps firing away on the forehand side like that, there’s not much Fed can do. Shades of 09 Del Potro in this match!


Maso Says:

run, not ruin^


andrea Says:

well, i had a feeling this would be a battle. they went the distance at RG a couple of years ago…5 setter. sounds like roger’s serve not working at all. two sets down is a big hill to climb…fed shoulda won that second set to give himself some breathing room. however, if he can push delpo i think he will outlast him.


Sean Randall Says:

Del Potro raised his game in that breaker, Federer didn’t. Simple. Time is running out.


Brando Says:

@TJ:

Delpo is a GS winner, a top 4 player based on his big match temperament, and he was DUE a win against fed really.

He took fed to 5 in RG 2009 SF remember?

he can PLAY against fed on clay for sure… more time to line up his FH!


van orten Says:

what i love about fed today??? he is so pissed showing emotions!screaming shut up etc….love it now focus and be yourself again!!51% 1st serves??? this is bad…but he is maestro so lets keep cheering for our guy!!!vamos roger !!!


dari Says:

Nirmal- you are some fed fan, geeze!

I havent watched a lick of.matches, but at work/on phone checking scores. Fed seems absolutely off his rocker by comments on here, what gives? Besides delpo playing beautifully?!
Oh well, I’m a big delpo fan so I can deal with this, but why roger has been so off it this WHOLE tourney?


Maso Says:

He’s around 51% 1st serves, Roger. At least in the second set. That’s not nearly good enough considering the way Del Potro is playing right now. I remember his 1st serve percentage being pretty low in his final against JMDP at the USO in 2009 as well. It generally doesn’t work out too well in the end, but whatever, gonna keep on hoping. 3 break points! Go Rog!


skeezer Says:

The conditions suck for Fed. Same deal when he lost to Sod at the past FO years back. Fed is a Ferrari, not a Tractor. Mud is to slow down the maestro. Me feels the need for speed, not Turtle dung surface. Bring on Wimby!!!


ertorque Says:

well said Brando


Piet Says:

Novak today definitely confirmed he isn’t the same player as last year. His shots lack aggression at points (he just plays instead of trying to dictate) and his head starts hanging down when things go against him. Today he let JW back in the match in that second set. He will regret it later.

Having said that, JW is a crazy player. From zero to hero in 30 seconds and vice versa. Hard to get a definite rythm against him.


skeezer Says:

Dari

I asks the same question. I know Madrid was fast, but come on its Clay. He hasn’t played a clean match since :(.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

IF fed loses this (likely) that means heas to get to wimby final BEFORE he can start gaining points in order to be no.1 again

Are you serious about this. Roger for a Wimby final? It’s safe to say he should defend his last year points if possible.


the mind reels Says:

Federer’s first-serve percentage is killing him. He’s ~ 50% for the match, and he’s doing nothing really on del Potro’s serve. Fix those two stats and we might have a match. Also, stop blowing BP chances.


Humble Rafa Says:

The Arrogant One has deer in the head lights look. He has break points.


Maso Says:

Hold, old man, hold!!!


van orten Says:

vamos roger!!!!vamos!!!!!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Roger should just move on, rather than troubling Delpo to compete. Let Delpo have some energy if he faces Rafa in finals.


madmax Says:

Relax.

After the injuries that Delpo has experienced, some thinking, including himself, that he would never be able to play tennis, Roger has done well to get this far. And who would begrudge a delpo resurgence?

Is Roge thinking too far ahead again, about playing rafa? At least I am enjoying some of his shots, but not others. May be he gets a set back.

But, I think this is delpo’s day.

Still, he did it against Berdych at AO, but a 5 setter is a stunner for Fed, wish he would either finish it quickly, OR go for broke, nothing to lose, he gets 2 days off, plus a nice butt massage and a talking to from Paul and team, for the biggest mountain to climb.

One set at a time.


Maso Says:

You’re a great Nirmal fan, truly! I’d rather see Fed take another beating against Nadal in the final than see him let someone win without putting up a fight. Heh. But even fighting, he may still lose this one. Juan Martin is a force to be reckoned with! Break confirmed, phew.


TJ Says:

I think Fed might have a shot at this set. Woohoo


jatt Says:

i think rogers back may be the issue..one or 2 matches i can understand playing erratic but the whole tourney..its his serve which is killing him..i guess there may be some injury he does not want to disclose


TJ Says:

Really Jatt???!? Noooo


van orten Says:

fed raised clearly his game mid second set!!!but delpos serve saved him in the breaker while fed hadnt had one service winner there


andrea Says:

wow. he held a break. keep that up.

i always like seeing his feisty side, because he tries hard to keep it under wraps, but we know it’s there.

that being said, if both he and novak go five setters today, then it’s likely both of them will have a tough match against each other and the finalist will face rafa who at this stage, must be feeling awfully refreshed.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Novak is really turning it on in this game against Tsonga. Amazing defense..

Maso, Not sure if you want Roger to hurt him more. I believe he is not well. Let him take rest. I know he is a great champion and ultimate competitor, but it’s better be picks his fight considering his age.

He should focus on Wimbledon.


Maso Says:

That’s possible Jatt. The serve has been an issue in any case, and it has been due to back problems in the past a few times, at least in the past couple of years. And Fed needs his 1st serve to be efficient to play his game. AND HOLY CRAP, that was a monster backhand by Del Po.


the mind reels Says:

@jatt: injury or not, as a fan I’d rather not chalk up any loss or bad play to an assumed injury. It’s annoying enough when people put asterisks next to certain matches in the past and say “so and so was injured.” Injuries are part of the game. Federer has played through them in the past (with mixed results), and this would be no different.

Del Potro is also apparently playing with an injury, so it is what it is.


dari Says:

Keep going roger!


Maso Says:

Adv Del Potro… from 40-15. Damnit, Roger!


van orten Says:

no first serve no chance…clearly as that


TJ Says:

I love when Roger yells.


Maso Says:

Ballsy drop shot. Well played, Rog, come on, one more! And to think I’m gonna miss the rest of this… rehearsal in half an hour, NOOOOOOO!


van orten Says:

there you go!!! i say it again!! fed is the better player !!! he needs more free points ..


Maso Says:

He needs his 1st serve, van orten, that’s for sure!


Maso Says:

Del Potro is hugging the lines today, incredible.


squirrel Says:

what rehearsal Maso?cant u skip it?u do not want to miss Fed winning in 5 a la FO 2009! :)


Lisa Says:

Things are looking quite nervy for Djokovic…


Maso Says:

And Tsonga takes the third set. This is going to get interesting. Fed and Djoko with their backs against the ropes again.


Sean Randall Says:

Up a set and a break, Djokovic let’s Tsonga back in. And looks what’s happened, Frenchman now up 2-1 sets.

Pressure, though, now on Jo to finish it.


jane Says:

Nole has such an easy match! HA. I can’t see him coming back this time.


Piet Says:

Novak is down & out. So many easy errors on the big points..


Maso Says:

Band rehearsal, squirrel. Doing a studio recording on Sunday, we have to be tight, so I can’t skip it. I’m even going to miss the final =( But anyway, go Rog! Serving ahead too in the 4th.


Shailesh Says:

Fed takes the third set! Yahoooooo!!!!!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Jane..Don’t worry about Novak. He can get through. Tsonga’s level will come down.


Brando Says:

Djokovic seems SO NERVOUS on the big points.


oggy Says:

So, both favorites 2-1 down. Quality matches. I’ve been mostly watching Nole, he’s not playing badly, but Tsonga’s at a pretty high level and he’s getting the important points. We’ll see if Nole can buckle up for set nr. 4…


van orten Says:

nole and fed is drama…
fed needs to play exactly like that …keep it coming roger …vamos


Shailesh Says:

I am not sure about Nole coming back, he has that haunted, caught in the deerlight look Same like Fed had in Wimby.


van orten Says:

yeah but tsongas set point was incredible


Maso Says:

Agreed, van orten. Tsonga really went for it!


squirrel Says:

Fed is looking goood.but i cant shake the feeling that the prediction would be right (Del Potro winning in four) nooooo

Djoko better bring the level up to dispatch the local hero!


oggy Says:

Nirmal: Tsonga does have the ability to sustain a high level for quite a while – he’s done it to both Fed and Nadal. Guess he wouldn’t mind a third big Grand Slam scalp. Nole’s close, but he has to put him under more pressure.


Daniel Says:

Have you guys noticed that the more Djoko and Fed struggle the better Nadal played? What confidence do o a player. Regardless if Fed and Djoko survived today, thy just can’t beat Nadal in this form, unless Nadal has a really off day on clay, something that remains o be seen!


TJ Says:

Note: Fed and Djoko matches in sort of identical places right now– 4th sets early.


TJ Says:

I want Djokovic to lose to Tsonga. Fed to go to finals. It all helps Fed in his bid to get back to #1, even if he doesn’t win this tourney. If Djoko goes down earlier, better for Fed.


dari Says:

this is too much spectatular stuff at once with the novak-tsonga and delpo-rog

i’m not even watching and my head is spinning


squirrel Says:

true TJ, its better for Fed if Djoko loses but i soo wanna see Fed-Djoko semi!shud be great!

Fed has the break!go Rog!!


TJ Says:

I REALLY want to see Fed reclaim #1, and beat the record or at least tie Sampras. So if Djoko goes down and Fed gets to the finals, wow. I would LOVE to see a Fed-Nadal final. Opinions on who wins a potential 5th set? Sorry for all the posts. I’m just excited.


Sean Randall Says:

Del Potro already down a break in fourth. Looks like Federer’s going to get this one.


oggy Says:

Tsonga’s getting a trainer? Is he playing tactical games against himself? :)


van orten Says:

well delpos mph is going down a bit …fed with a lot of winners last couple of games…


squirrel Says:

me too,so excited! If Fed get the no1 ranking at the conclusion of USO,then he would definitely break Sampras’ record!i would so love for that to happen too (more so than him winning the 17th GS) as it would solidify his status as GOAT.

I can see Fed and Djoko winning in 5 with Fed advancing to the final,just like last year… (and Fed losing again to Nadal..)


Daniel Says:

DelPo felt the injury. That second set lat games and tiebreak drain him out.

Looks goof for Fed this set, Delpo wasn’t able to hold serve to start sets 3 and 4.


senthilvel Says:

Like True Fed fans, I dont know who to cheer for?
Del potro is only chance to take out Nadal.


TJ Says:

Tsonga Federer semi would be fun too, no?


Lisa Says:

Djokovic needs Inspiration, Del Potro should let this set go…..save his energy for 5th set…..


van orten Says:

do not know if delpo is saving energy but his footwork is not looking good right now


van orten Says:

cheer for fed of course!!!i dont care about nadal..every match fed plays is a good match !!!


squirrel Says:

no,not del petro,djokovic would be the only chance to take out Nadal.so like true Fed fans too,i kinda hope for Nadal-Djoko final,lol

Tsonga-Fed is fun too especially Rog is definitely gonna win,muahaha


TJ Says:

Wait, why are we fed fans wanting Djoko to beat nadal? it’s better for fed getting to #1 if djoko goes out and nadal wins it, no?


the mind reels Says:

Still too early to say, but looking good for Fed this set. Anything could happen if this goes to a fifth, but momentum is squarely with RF now.


TJ Says:

Is anybody commenting on here on Twitter?


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Del Po is known to go for a snooze fest and wake up suddenly. He is in a lull period now. I expect him to wake up quickly.


TJ Says:

Fed should throw in some droppers.


Daniel Says:

Poor DelPo. Thia injurya are a pitty, but part of the game. He is not even going to shots anymore. This looks over!


squirrel Says:

Bagel!! whoaa.who would have thought that could happen two sets ago! :))))


van orten Says:

another 5 setter for fed…he needs a win here!!!confidence booster!!! delpo ´not moving at all …we will see..but momentum at fed’s side!!!


squirrel Says:

yeah TJ,if Djoko is out,Fed has a better chance getting to that no1 spot! but i have a nostalgic support for Djoko..lol


Daniel Says:

TJ, is better if Djoko loses and Nadal loses tomorrow and Fed wins it. That would be our dream scenario closing on #1:)


oggy Says:

Nole suddenly looking like No. 1. Tsonga’s serving keeps him out of trouble.


andrea Says:

wow. and now he serves first in the fifth. let’s go rog.

and tsonga gets the crucial hold….holy nail biting in two matches.


Humble Rafa Says:

I have an icky feeling that the Arrogant One will lose serve in the first game to set the tone.


Sean Randall Says:

Sounds like Delpo’s knee hit the wall. Unless he’s playing possum, Federer will escape.

Stars are really aligning for Federer this event. Easy early draw. Delpo gets injured. Djokovic on way out?


Daniel Says:

Fed gettinh problems. Lucky shot on this forehand and the most bizarre winner


senthilvel Says:

OMG, 0 -30 down in first game..


courbon Says:

Sean, unfortunatelly I think you are right-Djoko will be out.He not only lost his tennis skills recently but he does not have a mental edge any more…I’m true Novak fan but he is not Number One any more (regardless of points).Cest’la vie…


van orten Says:

fed risking way too much there…delpo is not moving so slice and dice and move him around with short long combinations!!! vamos roger vamoss


squirrel Says:

Humble Rafa, how does it feel to be wrong?

Sean, if Fed wins this and Djoko is out, your’re absolutely right, stars are aligning for him..


mat4 Says:

Nole is gonna lose.


van orten Says:

it is not over till its over


TJ Says:

there’s the dropper!


kriket Says:

Novak seems to have lost his focus lately, sends too many easy winners (penalties in football jargon) out. He has to regain his focus in order to stay on top.


TJ Says:

Nole going out in 4 or 5 you think?!


jane Says:

courbon, mat4, kriket, I agree. But, this was never going to be an “easy” match.


Sean Randall Says:

Tsonga said pressure would be on Djokovic. Serving 4-4 pressure is on JW!


Lisa Says:

In any 5th set against Roger, Del Potro needs to hold his serve(extremely important) and put pressure back on Federer……

Thats how Nadal wins 5th seters against Roger…..


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Sean, if Fed wins this and Djoko is out, your’re absolutely right, stars are aligning for him..

I think the stars are aligning for Rafa.


TJ Says:

Who do you think Fed would rather play – Djoko or Tsonga?


squirrel Says:

what a shot from Fed to break!!!!!!


Sean Randall Says:

Federer gets the break, now 3-1. That should do it.


TJ Says:

Let’s be real Nirmal. Rafa already had this in the bag.


squirrel Says:

true Nirmal..


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Tsonga is in Wimbledon Qtrs mode. If Novak can get through this match, it would give him a huge boost. Novak is not playing that badly, just that Tsonga is playing like a monster till now.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Let’s be real Nirmal. Rafa already had this in the bag.

At a minimum Rafa has FO and Wimbledon in his bag.


Sienna Says:

He is turning it….. After the Breaker I was a litle down but I thought he would turn it in the breakerafter a great ralleigh where they both were killing the ball. Fed did not blink untill the crowd got involved/… SHut up he screamed. We got a glimpse of the figther who will sell his soul to the devilll for a slamwin…. I love it.

4-1 5thset Common!!!!!!!!


van orten Says:

ok. fed stay smart as only you can be…by the way nole under huge pressure at the moment 4:5 0:15


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Novak got to be careful here. He is feeling the pressure in this game. Going for the lines and depth too much.


TJ Says:

You meant the #1 ranking? I just meant the French Open, lol. I still think Fed will get to #1.


Lisa Says:

I would like to see Federer vs Djokovic semis…..


madmax Says:

Sounds like Delpo’s knee hit the wall. Unless he’s playing possum, Federer will escape.

Stars are really aligning for Federer this event. Easy early draw. Delpo gets injured. Djokovic on way out?

Sean, you say that Fed had the worst draw (he did), now you change your mind? Remember, fed cannot control how others play, only how he plays.

Come on Fed!


TJ Says:

I agree madmax.


Daniel Says:

Wow, Djoko saved 2 MP. One Tso ga should have hit in his
Chest instead of trying to pass


Nirmal Kumar Says:

This is turning out to be a very high quality match between Tsonga and Novak. Hope it goes to 5 sets.


Sienna Says:

Dejavu

Djoker is just the kingpin on MP… Well Nadal has saved a few in his life… Incredible,.


courbon Says:

Ok, after this game, maybe Novak still has mental strenght….I’ll better shut up.


Daniel Says:

Last time Djoko saved 2 MP we all know what happened. Tsonga needs to winnin four otherwise those MP will hunt him in the fifth.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Daniel..Though Tsonga’s chances would come down if it goes to 5th, but I think this match deserves a 5-setter. This has been a high quality match, noot an error fest.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

That CC FH down 15-30, this guy is just amazing. I mean Novak.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Looks like Roger serving for the match. Can he close it out?


andrea Says:

yeeeeees!


Daniel Says:

My god, Djoko saved 2 more MP. Now tiebreak. This is it for Tsonga!!


van orten Says:

feel for delpo…great for fed..goood we all stayed positive …but if djoker wins this i will feel very sorry for jo!!!how many lives has djoker . this is surreal


Sean Randall Says:

Federer comes through. As Cahill said, you have to feel bad for Del Potro.

With rain falling harder, Federer now gets two days off before Friday as Tsonga/Djokovic continue.

Madmax, on paper at the start of the tournament he had the toughest, but the seas have parted so far.


jatt Says:

yessss..roger through


van orten Says:

he really deserved at least one mp°!!!!! but nole is a beaast toooo


Sienna Says:

This is absolutely crazy… TWO matchpoints saved at the same time….

FED is semi finalist, We saw again in the heart of the champion,


van orten Says:

proud of roger…after what happened in ny vs nole he needed a 5 setter!!!! he showed everything today..emotion and heart !!!


TJ Says:

Fed now has 2 days off, right? Semis on Friday, anyone?


squirrel Says:

yayy roger!i love u!!!


steve-o Says:

Roger Federer survives, coming from two sets to love down for the sixth time in a Grand Slam! I have to say, if not for Del Potro’s knee issues, he might well have won. He was absolutely crushing the ball for two sets. Hope he recovers quickly.

But credit to Federer to toughing it out.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Pity Del Po was injured. He should have been the worthy winner. Not sure how much happy Roger could be winning this one. Looks more like a gift from Del Po.


Sean Randall Says:

Djokovic is teetering, just hanging on by a thread. I think Tsonga clips him here up 4-2.


Sean Randall Says:

If the stars really are aligning for Roger, Djokovic wins this set and rain postpones 5th until tomorrow with the winner injuring something – Djokovic did appear to hyperextend that knee earlier, but looks ok.


Lisa Says:

Am a Federer fan, but my hats off to Novak for saving 4 match points…..Great fighting spirit of a champion….


Daniel Says:

Tsonga first serve venished in tiebreak. Nerves!!!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

What a CC FH by Novak. Novak probably has the best CC FH in tennis as of now.


squirrel Says:

Fed has two days off and i’m on leave this friday,life is great!!


jatt Says:

rafa and uncle tony must be laughing seeing this matches..ultimate challenge is going to be in finals against rafa..


andrea Says:

jesus tsonga…you had it. amazing tough out from novak.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Novak wins the 4th set. This match definitely deserves 5th set. Hope Tsonga can keep up his level and make it interesting.


jatt Says:

another 5 setter..way to go


Milos Says:

And now to the 5th set. At some point I wasnt brave enough to watch livestream, and at later point I couldnt even watch livescore anymore :)


Nirmal Kumar Says:

If Novak can win this match, I coould see him pose a great challenge to Rafa. Novak need not play his best to beat Rafa. His above average game is good to take out Rafa unless Rafa is in a GOD mode.


van orten Says:

i really do not care who will play vs fed..but it is painful to watch how many lives djoker has…tsonga will def. not win this and if he does,..will be the match of his life,..he deserved the win in the fourth but djoker played the matchpoints coldblooded!!!! but there s gotta be a point when the other one prevails and has the lucky shot once in a while


Eric Says:

I don’t give Tsonga good odds on winning the fifth set after watching four MPs go sailing by.


Brando Says:

‘Brando – 10.18: Tsonga’s going to CHOKE in this one- you heard it here first!’

DIDN’T I TELL EVERYONE THAT, LOL!

Jo’s got the game, BUT not the head to win this one!

EXPECT a 6-3 novak win in set 5!


Sean Randall Says:

Those 4 matchpoints have to playing in Tsonga’s mind. Edge to Djokovic here, he’s playing with house money.


dari Says:

Wow, can’t wait to watch the delpo fed match, glad for roger to tough it out, I love piss fire fed.
On the other hand, poor delpo and that knee! If he gets healthy he is BACK!


Dory Says:

So have Djoker fans already died 4 times and been revived 5th time? I was watching Roger match simultaneously and then I died 4 times when Tsonga had 4 match points. I have never seen in my life any sportsperson so strong of will power and courage than Djoker. Never seen him fight a match like this.


dari Says:

I knew about two match points, but FOUR! its not just against my guy that he is amazing at fighting them off, huh?!


jatt Says:

today is the day for the seeds..all big seeds in womens and mens’ matches went through. It looks like Nole is going to be against fed in the semis.Now that will be another cracker.


Dory Says:

Novak Djokovic is the most strong willed, strong of character competitor in tennis I have seen. He’s THE BEST!!!!


Brando Says:

so novak STRUGGLES against seppi and tsonga on clay BUT will beat rafa WITHOUT playing his best game on clay.

HAS TO BE THE MOST STUPID THEORY THAT ANYONE ON THIS SITE HAS EVER FORGED- IMPRESSIVE!


van orten Says:

everyone but everyone will pick djoker to win this….i pick fed!!!!!!!


Brando Says:

ALL 4 MPs were on novak’s serve- BAR 1 point, tsonga couldn’t do anything else on them.


oggy Says:

@Brando: he didn’t choke. On the four match points, he had half a chance on one, and that was it. Nole really showed his mettle there. Against Tsonga in super-human mode. Unbelievable.


Brando Says:

@Van Orten:

I AGREE- fed can handle THIS novak. IF jo has his head together he could beat THIS novak on his WEAKEST surface (that’s jo)- CLAY!

Fed will have CONFIDENCE from the delpo win, and the french crowd with him in that one!


dc Says:

Humble Rafa Says:

The winners of these 2nd tier matches will get an ultimate whooping from your Humble Highness as their gift.
————————————————
But it wont be as humiliating a whooping that tumble highness was given seven times in a row by the new king of tennis.


dc Says:

@Humble Rafa Says:

I have an icky feeling that the Arrogant One will lose serve in the first game to set the tone.
—————————————————
Humble highness has an icky feeling all the time – ever noticed where his finger is during matches..


andrea Says:

novak will escape from this match….too bad for tsonga. he’s lost his mojo.


Eric Says:

Haha, 3-0. Who didn’t see that coming. Alas, Tsonga, we hardly knew ye.


Sean Randall Says:

JW, still feeling no pressure after blowing those 4 matchpoints?


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I AGREE- fed can handle THIS novak

Makes me rethink Rome match. How Roger’s fans were confident about Roger with Novak playing poorly till them Novak just turned it on. Expect the same on Friday.

Roger won against Del Po, only after Del Po started limping. It was more llke a walkover from Del Po after the 2nd set.


conty Says:

Bummer!! Delpo’s knee :( Delpo was beating Roger when i left and now see he won. But Roger has been playing cr@p. Makes the semi on basically a walkover. Hope Delpo finds Rafa’s knee doctor!

Now Nole and Jo are in a fight to the death 5 setter.
Neither of these 2 will be in good shape…Federer might make the final. arrrgh, again the sacrificial lamb at FO, whoever gets there vs Nadal. Nole and Jo both appear dead tired.
Federror vs Erratovic semi-final.


kriket Says:

Tsonga ran out of steam. Đoko has all but won this match.


the mind reels Says:

Tsonga has no fight in him, and Djokovic’s girlfriend is wearing hipster glasses.


kriket Says:

Đoker wins! Congrats!


Lou_tennisfan Says:

Federer once again proved that age does not matter when it comes to champions. He really picked up his game at the start of the third set. Where there is a will, there is a way!

Del Potro- Sliced and Dropped by Federer & Knee! http://bit.ly/M4H5dq


Milos Says:

First and fifth set were easy :)


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Looks like Novak vs Rafa final.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

The class of the north half of the draw to meet again. So one side of the Finals will be a Big Three.

And I’m pretty sure the other one will too.

So, how many games does Almagro get tomorrow? I’ll say 6.


Sean Randall Says:

Djokovic wins the pressure points.

Incredibly we’ll replay the 2011 Federer-Djokovic semifinal on Friday!


kriket Says:

I think these tough matches could do good for Đoker, better than he had easy walkovers on his way to the semis. Now he has enough time to recover and get himself in the right shape for the big matches. I still believe in him.


conty Says:

feel so sorry for Tsonga :(

but congrats to Nole! and all the best to him for a speedy recovery, though I wouldn’t bet on which one, Fed or Nole, makes the final.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Very high quality match for 3-sets. 1st and 5th was a bummer. But 4th set was pure class.


jane Says:

Well, that was daunting. Ha! I say that faintly. At least Nole loses no points. What a fighter. Gotta love him. I really didn’t think he could come back. And not just 2 match points – 4 freaking match points.

Fed too coming back from the brink.

Good thing they have two days off!! They’re gonna need it. Or like conty says it’s be a messy Federror and Erratovic semi, lol.

Main thing for me is that Nole loses no points and that win had to feel good.

Come on Murray!


mat4 Says:

The mat4 that wrote that Novak gonna lose IS NOT ME. Or I don’t remember I wrote it.


conty Says:

4-6 games, TV. 6 games is optimistic for Nico.


madmax Says:

dc Says:
Humble Rafa Says:

The winners of these 2nd tier matches will get an ultimate whooping from your Humble Highness as their gift.

Not Humble Rafa, do you think you can change your tune?————————————————
But it wont be as humiliating a whooping that tumble highness was given seven times in a row by the new king of tennis.

June 5th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

Yeah, and how the tables will turn when Roger whoops everyone’s ass.

Not so Sean. All I would ask is that you stick to your predictions. Every time you say Roger is going to win, he loses. Every time you say he is going to lose he wins. You are a jinx. I am telling you. Would love to see ALL your predictions with Roger over the years on a head to head basis!

You just have to stand by what you say and stop swapping. You say fed has toughest drawn, then because OTHERS fall away like a pack of cards, is that Roger’s fault? Give the guy some credit at least.

He is the one who has stood by his part of the bargain, he cannot account for others, and nor should he.

Would not have minded in the slightest in Delpo had got him. Like the guy, but Roger is such a wowsa. Brilliant.


Kimberly Says:

TV–almagro is one of the more accomplished clay court players, much better clay courter than Tsonga, he has several clay titles. Almagro and Ferrer/Murray not as easy as everyone seems to think. I like Rafa’s chances but I don’t think his presence in the final is a given. Granted he would have to have an off day, but stuff does happen.

However, if he gets to the final against Djokovic, I do not think he needs his A game to win. Completely disagree with the comment above that Djokovic can win with his B game against Rafa. On hard court yes. On Chatrier, I’m not sure his A game would be enough. I think it is Nadal who could win playing his B game.


conty Says:

Kimberly, I am not insulting or putting down Almagro, Ferrer, or Murray. It’s just that Nadal has been playing so well. I can’t see past Rafa FTW at FO.


Tennis Vagabond Says:

Hi Kimberly
I’m not a keen follower of Almagro but it seems to me his trophies and accomplishments are minor league- like Ferrer, his collection of trophies consist of tournaments Rafa was not entered in. He is one of those scavenger hyenas that go for the decayed meat when the real predators are sleeping.
I have however seen him play strong tennis against Rafa and other top ten players- and then wilt under the pressure in the end.
Conty already thinks 6 games is generous. Do you have a prediction?


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Watching the highlights between Roger and DelP. The guy is playing with one and half legs and has taken Roger to 5 sets. Looks like from 3rd set, he was playing with only one leg.

Novak should be grinning ear to ear at the prospect of beating Roger again in a GS. I believe he is already leading Roger H2H in the GS or very close to Roger.


Dory Says:

The way Djoker saved 4 match points & believed in himself, never gave up – I have no words for that. The French crowd IMHO was far too less appreciative of Djoker did in today’s match. And who said Djokovic of 2011 had gone away? Today’s match shows what an outstanding tennis player he is and the most strong willed man. Ajde Nole!


Sean Randall Says:

Have to feel for Tsonga as well. Tough losses both for Tsonga and Delpo.

Credit to Federer and Novak, that’s why they are who they are. They win!


jane Says:

Almagro was totally routed by Rafa in their 2008 QF (1, 1, and 1) and in the 2010 QF it was tighter (7-6, 7-6, 6-4).

I am thinking this match will be in between those two. Maybe 3, 2, 3 or similar.


Sean Randall Says:

Tennis Vagabond, I actually think Almagro might get a set tomorrow. He’ll make it match.

Madmax, I also picked Federer to beat Goffin, how’d that work out?

Madmax, entering the fourth round among the last 8 who had the easiest draw? Federer’s was by a long mile. But of the Top 4 he did face the toughest 4th RD opponent.


TennisFan Says:

Tsongo had the Djok dead to rights. But Tsongo doesn’t have the killer instinct. Too bad.


Dave Says:

Federer’s B game was enough to exhaust Delpo and take out his knee — like Verdasco said, playing two sets with Fed is like playing five sets with other players. Roger surely knew that Delpo had played a lot of tennis and had knee problems, and just needed to concentrate and outlast him.

There’s no need to feel sorry for Delpo’s knee… just as there was no need to feel sorry for Federer’s bad back when Roger was actually much closer (two points away) to actually winning the 2009 US Open final than Delpo was to winning today’s match.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/incoming/federers-back-needs-a-break/article1345547/

The upside to Federer’s match is that he’s looking as fresh as a daisy after five sets — a 273 point workout in just three hours 14 minutes, given three days rest, will probably help him. The match practice with Delpo should help Roger iron out some kinks in his baseline game. The more worrisome issue is why Fed’s serve has not looked sharp so far.

Let’s see what Djokovic’s shape is like on Friday given his back-to-back five setters (Seppi match 350 points in four hours 18 minutes and Tsonga match 325 points in four hours 10 minutes). Federer will want to make the match as grueling as he did last year.


Humble Rafa Says:

There’s no need to feel sorry for Delpo’s knee

My left knee wants to talk to you.


mat4 Says:

Ok. I finally feel a little better. My pressure jumped, so I had to drink a vodka to calm down.

Before this tournament, I thought that Nole wouldn’t probably keep a clear head under the pressure, and would lose before the semi, certainly before the final. But he made it. God knows it was difficult. He had to fight against himself first, and then against inspired opponents: both Seppi and Jo played extremely well.

For a fan, now it’s easier, and it is probably for Novak too: he plays Fed and probably Rafa. He has nothing to lose any more, and I think he will play much better, perhaps with lot of adrenaline, just like Jo today.


andrea Says:

i think almagro might take a set.

‘scavenger hyenas’…that’s hilarious. what a great term


Nirmal Kumar Says:

This is what I said in the forum before the match.

“Roger should try and take Del Po to 5-sets. Don’t think big man can last the full distance.”

Looks like that’s what Roger did. Roger’s game is so poor, he typically has to rely on his opponents health issues.

He survived against Goffin, since he was tired at the end of 2nd set. Even Roget acknowledged it. Here he waited till Del Po knees to fail before starting to win the sets.

So the question is, will Novak be tired after his 2 5-setters? That’s what will decide the match. Ultimately it’s in Novak’s hand, just like the match was on Del Po’s knees today.


Dave Says:

Sean is right about Fed and Novak (and Rafa): “that’s why they are who they are. They win!” Never count them out. They are who they are because of their problem solving skills and fighting spirit, even if they go about it in different ways. Even if they lost, it’s never the end of the world, they’ll bounce back
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soac/2006-09-21-introduction-cover_x.htm


Kimberly Says:

TV-I agree with Sean, I think Almagro could get a set, I’ll go for Rafa 6-7 7-6 6-4 6-0.

On the other, I’m sorry guys but I’m going Ferrer in 3 4. 6-1 5-7 6-4 6-1


Dory Says:

I think this Novak-Tsonga QF was the best match of 2012 so far. Even if the Aussie Open final was the longest and equally epic, the quality of Tsonga’s play and Djoker’s defense and mental strength left me speechless today.


the mind reels Says:

@Nirmal: yes, you were absolutely right. Fed knew going into the match that del Potro was in a compromised position given his health: go all out and try to wrap it up in straights, or risk going the distance and breaking down. We all saw what happened, so while props are in order for del Potro for putting up a great fight for the first half of the match, all credit to Federer for once again weathering the storm, finding a way, and busting through. Say what you want about Federer’s mediocre play at times, but Brad Gilbert nails it on the head when he says winning is winning no matter how you do it. The fact is that del Potro is out and Federer has 2.5 days of rest before his next match. Each match is a new day.

Weather forecast isn’t looking great tomorrow, but it’s so patchy in Paris that I suspect they’ll get through the day’s schedule.

I want to agree with Sean about Almagro maybe taking a set tomorrow — he has the firepower to do it — but I can’t get past the notion that Nadal has every Spanish player in his pocket, bar none.


Wog boy Says:

Iron man, Novak Djokovic !


Dave Says:

Even if Delpo’s knee and endurance held up, Federer was clearly beginning to get into the match. He has won 237 grand slam matches and equaled Jimmy Connors record for most slam semifinals reach because of his problem solving skills and he has the soul of a champion. To presume that Fed would not have eventually won the match without delpo’s injury or Goffin running out of gas shows lack of understanding of what the very greatest champions are made up of.

In 1969, Rod Laver dropped 17 sets in the four major tournaments to 12 players — Laver played SEVEN four setters and FIVE five setters on the way to winning the Calendar Year Grand Slam of all four major championships. In reality, Laver probably dropped the equivalent of another 3 to 5 more sets, given that he played several sets with scores of 18-16, 14-12 etc (no tiebreaker was used). Take a good look at Laver’s path through each of the majors — this is what the greatest champions are made up of. They win.
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skeezer Says:

Tsonga was the weakest player left? Really?


Humble Rafa Says:

5 games or less for my next esteemed rival.


mat4 Says:

When one sees all his muscles and his Ali frame, it is clear he is not weak.


Daniel Says:

Djoko already better than Nadal when going for the 4th Slam in a row, Nadal lost QF Djoko is in the semis. If he beats Fed he will be in the final going for history. Hope it is a Murray X Nadal semi. This means
That everybody will be playing for history: Murray first Slam for England, Nadal seven, Djoko Slam and Fed to increase his record and win Slam after 30.


dc Says:

@Nirmal Kumar Says:

This is what I said in the forum before the match.

“Roger should try and take Del Po to 5-sets. Don’t think big man can last the full distance.”

Looks like that’s what Roger did. Roger’s game is so poor, he typically has to rely on his opponents health issues.

————————————————–
Nirmal – make some sense at least, please. The more , the better.


the mind reels Says:

@Dave: yes, and I’m a Federer fan too, but…this was a similar situation to some of Federer’s more recent losses in majors, particularly those in 4 or 5 sets. I’m always reserving hope that he’ll turn matches around, but he’s not always able to. I respectfully disagree about anyone’s lack of understanding who didn’t presume Federer was going to win today. He’s not always able to “figure it out,” and del Potro was the better player through the first two sets.


jane Says:

“Tsonga was the weakest player left? Really?” Thanks skeezer. I feel the same as you. Tsonga is the highest ranked besides the big four but for some reason the weakest? His is a slam finalist and multiple QFs and semifinals at slams. Has taken both Fed and Rafa out of slams on different occasions. Apparently Tipsy is even better than him on clay? What? And that’s not even taking into account that this was his home slam and he was 5 all going into this match versus Nole. Yesterday I couldn’t pick a winner, because I knew it would be really tough for Nole. And I was right. It was not an easy match. Nole just fought hard. Tsonga played hard. But in the last stretch Nole was the mentally tougher. Certainly not the whole way through. But kudos to him for winning what I knew would be a tough match.

Before the match Patrick Mourtaglou said he was convinced Tsonga could shine on clay, and he was right.

“I am personally convinced that Tsonga has all the assets needed to shine on clay, even if, until now, that success has never come to the fore. Jo is a real attacker, and this surface has historically made such players hesitate in their natural game. The big question is always whether they must modify their game and adapt it to the surface, or impose their style upon it.”


jane Says:

Here’s the link for that quote:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/patrick-mouratoglou/tsonga-must-attack-djokovic-150034262.html

Also, Cahill and others all predicted if either Fed or Nole would get upset in their matches it would like be Nole. Very close!


Wog boy Says:

To honest, I don’t know if it makes any sense to go to bed now, it is 5am:(
I am a wreck, once again, thanks to my man, this is bordering masochism…but I cannot help it, the more I watch him the more I like him.

Lacky I chucked the sickie for the rest of the week.

One more short black, double shot for me, please:)


jane Says:

Oops sorry for the long link. Can you remove it or shorten it Sean?


conty Says:

That had to hurt deep for Jo.

Novak Djokovic is an iron man!! love him!

Ferrer in 4 or 5… hard to guess with Andy.

Rafa in 3. Based on this being Rafa’s run at a 7th FO title and his mates are not going to make it as hard as they both could. Ferrer and Almagro both talented tough opponents. My guess would be Ferrer could be tempted to go for it if he sees any weakness in Nadal; after all, the tennis gods know Ferrer deserves a GS win. But Rafa will want to make a statement vs Nico. They all know each other so well. If Murray somehow gets by Ferrer, then we have a real semi-final. Who knows with Murray? I thought he was toast after the Niemenen match and the back spasms; then he goes on and silences Chartrier vs. Gasquet, playing sublime tennis.


Mark Says:

Tsonga was the weakest player left – really? Says squeezer. Yes really. He is not a claycourter. He is all brawn and no brain.


conty Says:

You can kick back and relax Wog boy. Celebrate the moment!


andrea Says:

so, are we on a bit of a pattern here? fed denies novak last year FO, novak denies fed at USO…does fed deny novak again? impossible to predict.


courbon Says:

Yes Mark, Tsonga has not have a brain…You do?Oh, yes I forgot-he is 25-26 Tennis star who just played semi finals of RG.You on the other handare guy who sits by computer and writte clever messages….hmmm,let me think who has brain here…hmmm


skeezer Says:

Just for u mark. I hope Ali lands in your loves half of the draw at Wimby, then will see if he is “weak”


Wog boy Says:

Skeezer,

I remember AO 2008, somebody was blown of the court by very same Ali, it was 3:0, wasn’t it:)


Wog boy Says:

conty,

I am kicking back:)


courbon Says:

@Wog Boy:Nole is not good for my health…my nerves are gone.
Have a nice day, even if tired you’ll be happy.


Mark Says:

Squeezer. Rafa is not scared of Ali or anybody else. Bring them all on. He will beat them two at a time. Oh, if perchance Ali lands in Choc Boy’s half please persuade your man not to blow a two sets lead again. BTW, did not watch your man play today- never do – too boring – but heard he was using flowery language on court “f….g bullshit” and said “shut up” . Some bloody gentleman.


Wog boy Says:

I know who is going to be happy, my wife, she will have a coffee in bed since I am up….. lucky woman:)


madmax Says:

Yeah right Mark.

You need to watch the match properly before you comment. Flowery language? I guess you need to learn spanish before you realise that players swear in their own language, it just is never picked up on an English mic. Murray was complaining about something like that a few days ago, that he is always picked up on the mic because of the tv recording in English.

Ask raf not to blow a lead against Isner won’t you? God, you are so pathetic. Seriously, don’t call yourself a tennis fan because you are a lonely boy Marko.


Wog boy Says:

courbon,

My post at 4:06pm, was response on yours.


Mark Says:

Madmax. Living up to your name again?? When did Rafa blow a lead against Isner? Are you pipe dreaming? Isner has never ever beaten Rafa but he has thrashed Choc Boy and beaten djoker.


Dave Says:

the mind reels: “this was a similar situation to some of Federer’s more recent losses in majors, particularly those in 4 or 5 sets. I’m always reserving hope that he’ll turn matches around, but he’s not always able to.”

Of course no player can turn around every match. But see the big picture — we should not get stuck only in the negatives (Federer’s losses in four or five sets). Champions also consider the positives (Federer’s wins in four or five sets) as well as probability (if there are recent losses, the law of averages tends to balance out with wins coming in these situations — today is one of them). There is no need to hope, just use cold logic.

Federer is now 19-16 in matches decided in a fifth set. In other words, he wins more five setters than he loses. Around 2006, I believe Fed’s win loss record in five setters was actually in the negative, so he has been winning more five setters in the last 6 years.

Federer fought back from two sets to love down for the seventh time in his career. It was Federer’s third comeback from two sets to love down at the French Open. He also did so against Sargis Sargsian in 2001 and Tommy Haas in 2009. Thus coming back from two sets down was always possible.

Federer won his 237 slam match and reached his 31st Grand Slam championship semi-final, to equal Jimmy Connors’ record for the most major semi-final appearances. He is a winner who knows how to win big matches.

****

the mind reels: “He’s not always able to “figure it out,” and del Potro was the better player through the first two sets”

Even the views of both players support my assessment that Federer displayed problem solving skills, was figuring things out and beginning to turn around the match even in the first two sets — it was evident to me and evident to both players. I’ll go with the interpretation of the players themselves, rather than any layman who claims to know what happened. Delpo twice said his knee was not a problem. In a couple of Delpo’s recent losses to Federer (e.g., Indian Wells), Delpo’s game broke down when Federer imposed his game — and that is basically what he said happened today. Many layman watching are intoxicated by Delpo’s power but there are subtle things that Federer was doing that was making the match more and more uncomfortable for Delpo.

- Del Potro: “(Federer) start to play much better than in the beginning of the match and I feel his ball more in the baseline. He put me to run a lot in the third and fourth set. He made better match than me after the second set. I don’t have any chance to win until the first game in the fifth set when I had break point…. As I said, I played very well at the beginning. Then he started playing better. I missed a few serves, as my serve was not as good as in the first two sets. Then my game was no longer the same… Let me say that again: Federer played much better. I had to make efforts to serve better, and he did everything so that my serve was not as good as I wanted it to be and I couldn’t take my chances. I had opportunities. I missed them; when he had opportunities he won, and that made the difference.”

- Q: “Are you saying that your knee did not affect your movement at all after the second set?” Delpo: “No.” Q: “Did you feel pain?” Del Potro: “No. What I felt was that Federer was playing his best tennis. As I said, he raised his level; mine started to decrease. We started at the same level. The match was very close. He took my serve on the first set; then I took his back. During the third and fourth set when his level raised, mine went down. In the fifth set I gave everything I had. I gave him an opportunity, and he took it.
Well, until the very last ball I thought I could win, even if I was down 5-2 during the fifth set. I have enough experience now and I can come back even when the match is very complicated and we’re in the fifth set. That’s why I was never discouraged. Well, I always think that Federer has far more experience than I have and he can win a match more quickly. Against another player I could have won a break and I could have won perhaps, but it was Federer.”
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/interviews/2012-06-05/201206051338921074941.html

- Federer: “I thought it was very good conditions for him. I knew it was going to be tough anyway. I have been struggling to find my rhythm. I did feel it in the first set, even though he was up two sets. I was finding a way back and starting to feel better. [I was] just trying to figure out how to play a guy who returns from so far back on a slow court. Do you try to serve through him? Which I tried; [it] didn’t work. Or do I try and move it around a bit? And that worked a bit better, but it was really in the mix up that I found success.

- Federer: “[The] second set was a tough set for me to lose, but he played a really good breaker and got the better of me. But I was happy that the first two sets took some time, because I did favour myself once the match got longer. I’m very happy with the way I fought and started in the third set, fourth set, and even in the fifth set, where, obviously, it was the toughest, because that was his last chance and his resistance maybe was the strongest there.”

As I said, Federer was clearly beginning to get into the match, regardless of Delpo’s knee and endurance. Roger is a big match winner because he has the soul of a champion and has problem solving skills even in adversity.

****

the mind reels: “I respectfully disagree about anyone’s lack of understanding who didn’t presume Federer was going to win today.”

You misinterpreted what I said. I DID NOT say ‘anyone who didn’t presume Federer was going to win today’. What I actually said was we should not presume that Federer could not have won the match unless Delpo was injured or Goffin was exhausted (“to presume that Fed would not have eventually won the match without delpo’s injury or Goffin running out of gas shows lack of understanding of what the very greatest champions are made up of.”). In any case, I disagree with your interesting viewpoint… given that Delpo said twice his knee was not a problem. And I stand by what I said.

Let’s base out beliefs on facts, not presumptions.


courbon Says:

@Wog Boy:Ahhh, got it…well,thats good.I was liked the quote from godfather which goes something like this:The real man is the one that takes care of his family…Have a nice day,mate


Wog boy Says:

courbon,

Thanks mate, you have a good night.


Humble Rafa Says:

The Egg Lover is looking for an egg to recover…from the grapevine.


Brando Says:

@skeezer:

‘Tsonga was the weakest player left? Really?’

I STAND by that thought, and i belief for sound reasons. reasons which i think you’ll also acknowledge. so the following:

1- i MEANT ON CLAY (its here on THIS blog too) when i refer to jo’s weakness.

2- relative to the other top 8 isn’t jo the weakest one? (remember this statement was mad pre- match and post 1-6 rout in set 1). i made the HONEST mistake of thinking delpo was in the top 8. He isn’t- tipsy is. BAR tipsy though, jo DEFINATELY is the WEAKEST top 8 on clay. NO DOUBT about it. I THINK WE ALL WOULD AGREE ON THAT ONE.

3- IF rafa was playing tsonga in the QTRS, wouldn’t WE ALL be saying its a no contest? WE WOULD. IF he’d face rafa he’d STILL be top 5 in the world, have crowd support, be seen as a ‘big match player’ etc. YET, we would say he’s an easy match for rafa. Rafa got lucky with an easy draw etc- BUT NOT NOVAK. INTERESTING.

So IMHO i DO NOT feel there is anything ludicrous in saying tsonga is the weakest top 8 player on clay- since BAR TIPSY, evidence does suggest that he is. I BET the man himself would say so.


skeezer Says:

Marky is talking brave cause his love Mr. Shoo in is on his home turf, what do ya expect lol?


skeezer Says:

Brando

I get what u are sayin. I stand in saying he was not the weaker player left, even on Clay, so there ya go. Almagro?


Brando Says:

@Skeez:

i can accept that- BOTH of us have FAIR REASONS TO think as such.

ALMAGRO? POSSIBLY. against rafa- he does LOOK BAD, against the others he’s GOOD- on clay of course.

on clay, IMO, he’s as much of a threat as murray. His record SUGGESTS his ability is better than andy on the red stuff.

i think its fair to say that.


jane Says:

Almagro is not a threat in slams. He has never gone beyond the QFs. There is a huge difference between slams, then masters, then 250 events. Almagro can’t challenge for slam titles. Tsonga can. That’s a HUGE difference.


skeezer Says:

Brando,

Agree with Jane’s comment above


Lisa Says:

Well, the set is finally staged…..I’ve been waiting for that moment since the Rome Masters last month…..

Federer vs Djokovic (Semifinal, 2012 French Open)

I’ve said before and will say it again….

“This is where it mattered most for Federer, Djokovics win at Rome meant very little to Fed.”

This is the stage where the world will know….’who is the most superior and dominant player………..Because This Is Where It Matters Most To Both Players……..Not Some Smaller Tournament’…..

We will wait and see the answer….


TJ Says:

Looking forward to it. Cannot wait for Friday!


Michael Says:

Nirmal,

You speak as though Roger has not beaten Rafa in a five setter. He has beat him two times at Wimbledon and even at the Rome Masters which was played as five sets earlier. In Australian Open 2009 final, to any neutral onlooker, Roger was clearly the better player not to have won the match and so he managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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