Rain Forces Nadal-Djokovic French Open Final To Monday, Who Has The Edge Now?
by Sean Randall | June 10th, 2012, 5:28 pm
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Mother Nature has it out for Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic. For third time in the last nine months rain has forced these two titans of tennis to complete a tournament final on a Monday.

The late tournament rains at the US Open made Djokovic wait an extra day to collect his first US Open. Then at Rome last month Nadal made the most of the Monday reclaming the Foro Italico. Hell, even the epic Australian Open final went into Monday morning.

So it’s almost fitting these two will decide another title on a Monday. This one of course has so much history on the line.

As for match, it’s gone close to form. Nadal, who’s been so great all tournament, was a little off his game today. But no fuss because Djokovic continued his rollercoaster, patchy form.

Under threatining skies amid damp conditions, Nadal roared out by two breaks 3-0, 30-0 before Djokovic stunningly fought back to even.

Nadal still managed to grab the first set, then the second which was interrupted with Nadal serving at 5-3 by the first rain delay. But it didn’t last long when the players came back some 40 minutes later in the drizzle Nadal sealed the second, got the early break for 2-0 in the third. At that point, it was no longer a question of if but when Nadal would close it out – 15 minutes, 30 minutes? And that’s when something happened.

With the conditions worsening – not just the weather, but Djokovic’s chances down a break in the third – something clicked in the Serb’s game, and suddenly went he “superhuman”.

Djokovic unbelievably ripped off six straight games to take the third and two more to go up a break in the fourth. Nadal, who was already irritated by having to play through the wetness now had to deal with his nemisis Djokovic who had jumped in that time machine back to 2011.

And like that, we had a match.

When the refs finally stopped it Nadal led 6-4, 6-3, 2-6, 1-2 with Djokovic serving up a break in the fourth. “Rafa,” Stefan Fransson, “didn’t really want to play on, and Novak said that the court was too slippery to play on.”

And that’s fortunate for Nadal because Djokovic was in one of those video game-like zones. As I’ve said before, Djokovic’s best beats Nadal’s best, especially on clay where Djokovic can get to more balls, do more with them and really exploit Nadal’s serve. And that’s what was happening toward the end.

Djokovic, who didn’t serve well to start, picked up his serving 48%, 50% and then 75% first serves in each set going forward.

Meanwhile, Nadal’s delivery was dropping like a rock in each successive set, bottoming out in that third when he managed to win just 10 points on serve. TEN! Remember, Nadal had only lost serve once all tournament. Today, Djokovic already got him seven times (Nadal also broke Djokovic seven tims as well).

Also, watching the match I just felt like Nadal was playing too far behind the baseline allowing Djokovic to attack with those angles. With that court positioning, if Djokovic is on he wins, if he isn’t he loses. It’s really in his hands.

As for tomorrow, I think the rain will diffuse a little of the momentum of Djokovic had accrued. It should also help Nadal gameplan for Monday.

Djokovic, though, has to be feeling good and once again feeling free. Down two sets and a break the match was effectively over but as we’ve seen many times before – especially in women’s tennis – when players almost accept defeat that’s when they play their best. I’m not saying Djokovic knew it was over, rather I think he just loosened up knowing things couldn’t get much worse and he began going for more, and it worked. Novak beat Federer like that at the US Open last year, he beat Tsonga too.

Tomorrow I think Nadal regroups and gets back in control of the match. Djokovic has come out flat a few times this tournament – Seppi and twice today at the start and after the first rain delay – so the resumption will be key.

That said, if Djokovic can maintain that form he can win this. Not only does he have the game but he also has the belief because he’s done it three times before in Grand Slam finals, even on a Monday. And he’s still riding that destiny thing. Imagine becoming the first player to beat Nadal from two sets down on clay, do it in Chatrier and the reward is career Slam.

After lackluster start it looks like we are headed for another fantastic finish.

NBC Sports Network (not normal network NBC we in the U.S. watched today) will air the match live starting at 7am ET. NBCSN took over for the old “Versus” network and many cable providers offer it. The match will also be streamed live on NBCSports.com. But it will not be on regular NBC.


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206 Comments for Rain Forces Nadal-Djokovic French Open Final To Monday, Who Has The Edge Now?

Nina Says:

Thanks Sean, I hope for the best. Nole really had the momentum going on for him. Bummer.


Katarina Says:

Great post!Thanks!


van orten Says:

Djoker can pull it off if he keeps returning deep…Thats the key… 55: 45% nadal ..but maybe he gets tight if he loses the forth!!!


Gregoire Gentil Says:

Predicting tomorrow winner is like flipping a coin… And no, the coin doesn’t have two heads.


conty Says:

Versus, isn’t that nice. Since switching to Direct TV to have Tennis Channel and more cycling on Universal Sport Network, now they move the stuff I had last year, Tour de Swiss, Criterium du Dauphine to Versus, and the RG final to Versus. That’s probably extra, I’m sure, if it is at all available on what I have now. sheesh…CableOne (less expensive and no TennisChannel, no USN) had Versus! I’m just unlucky. On at 6 am here, I might get a stream from Europe.


conty Says:

No, on at 5 am here. That’s actually better for a streaming what I hope is a 5 setter. Ajde Nole! If it’s an anti-climactic dusting in 4; will switch to Tour de Suisse stream. Paying a high price for high speed internet, anyways.


skeezer Says:

I am worried for Nole fans that indeed he will start off slow, and he cannot afford to do that. The good news is he is up a break, so he has a little breathing room to get into “superman” mode, but if he takes too long, its over. He can’t be starting off serving 50 % either…..

If Rafa wins, it will be in 4. If it goes 5…Nole will win and has just won 4 slams in a row….at the expense of Rafael Nadal.


mat4 Says:

skeezer:

I wrote a joke but I wasn’t that good, so I deleted it before posting.

You are right indeed. The first two games could be the key of the set: if Nole starts serving well, he will have good chances. The serve could be the key, allowing him to stay more relaxed with his groundstrokes.


skeezer Says:

mat4,

Don’t tease. post the joke ;)


jane Says:

skeezer, all Nole fans are worried for themselves and their guy. You need not worry for us. :)

Tignor’s take on the match … so far:

http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2012/06/any-given-monday.html


mat4 Says:

Skeez,

No. I won’t. My mood changed. I remembered Rafa near the end of 2009, with 10 to 15 pounds less, unable to chase balls the way he usually does, losing to Cilic, Davydenko, Djokovic, Soderling… And two months later, Hulk again. “That” really changed tennis.

But, anyway, if Rafa loses tomorrow, I swear I won’t brag, joke at his expense, make fun of Rafans… I just let Fedfans do it… So cruel…


mat4 Says:

jane,

read it already. Did you know that he answered the allegations about the famous “Tignor jinx” in “Reading the readers”?

Finally, the conclusion was that he is always wrong only when he predicts a Rafa victory.


mat4 Says:

Especially in four sets.


jane Says:

mat4, I will look for that answer, but I didn’t know about his famous jinxing.


conty Says:

Joe W. (question from the other thread)

Was nagging at me that how many sets question felt I didn’t have it quite right.

It is best of 3; except, the men’s final is best of 5

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/7905163/London-2012-Olympics-tennis-guide.html


Kimmi Says:

i dont know how they will start tomorrow. he had so much momentum nole. the bright side is, he now knows what works and what doesn’t. he needs to start very sharp. first thing first HOLD his serve.

rafa was so happy to hold his serve just before they stop the game. he wants to finish it in 4


Michael Says:

What a match !! Exhilirating stuff. Novak played very poorly in the first two sets with his first serve percentage awful. He lost those two and then also lost his serve to Nadal in the third and then the World saw that inspirational Tennis from Novak and how well he played. Any other player would have given up at that stage which was looking hopeless but not Novak. Nadal was clearly on the defensive and had to run for cover after Novak thoroughly dismantled him in the third and was leading in the fourth. Unfortunately, the rains have halted his momentum. Now on Monday, if Novak can continue this form then he will be the second man to beat Nadal and also hold four major titles consecutively and what an achievement that will be especially down two sets to love. Rain has played a spoilsport and it is time for Rolland Garros to emulate Wimbledon and Australian Open by putting the roof.


Michael Says:

If Novak can give such a hard run to Nadal on Clay, then on hard courts he will always be the favourite to win.


Andrew Miller Says:

Go Djokovic! I am pulling for a new champ. The angst of Nadal pushed me over the edge, he seemed a bit spoiled out there. Roland Garros is not his forever!


grendel Says:

Funny how history has the odd stab at repeating itself – generally as farce, according to Karl Marx, but at any rate generally with a twist in the tail.

At last year’s French, del Potro made a spirited fightback against Djokovic, but then the match was called off for bad light. The momentum was clearly with delPo, and a lot of us felt Djokovic was granted a reprieve.

Now, it seems that Djokovic may have been robbed, but I wonder. After all, at Wimbledon, Djokovic simply wiped the floor with Nadal to take the second set 6-1, but he immediately lost focus and allowed Nadal back in. Momentum can shift more than once, and who can say but that Nadal may have been about to come back again tonight.

Furthermore, it is not a given that Djokovic will start poorly tomorrow. He was lightening fast against Tsonga in the first set before dropping his guard. Then again, when he was on top against a surprisingly loose Federer, he rammed his advantage home with cool confidence.

Undoubtedly, he relaxed today when all looked lost. That can happen. It is untrue to imply that this is simply typical of the man, and that when it gets tight, he’ll crumble. He’s actually a great warrior by any standards, but he is fallible and subject to the vagaries of nerves like any one else.

The fact is, spin it how you will, it is quite impossible to predict what will happen tomorrow. There are a number of perfectly plausible scenarios. Of course one of them will turn out to have been right and, with hindsight, will at once seem obvious to everyone. Historians have an excellent record in predicting the past. Those who do get it right will have just got lucky.


trufan Says:

Momentum was HUGELY in djokovic’s favor – Nadal gets lucky, AGAIN.

Plus now we know that Nadal will tire before Djokovic does. Three hours into the match, Djokovic finally had Nadal on the ropes today – and then the rain.

Well, I hope Djoke can serve well and close out the 4th set. In the 5th set, its clash of the titans – both have phenomenal 5th set records. Nadal’s superios record is also due to his superior fitness – he doesn’t have that advantage over Djokovic.

It would be so great if Djokovic can win those 4 games and another set. Federer came within a few points and a set of grandslam twice. Djoke can do it.


grendel Says:

The thing about momentum is that it can shift, quite unpredictably too – especially between two players who are closely matched.


conty Says:

Now, the voice of reason and sensibility :D

grendel, but we love to predict, ‘we’ meaning those of us bracketeers and would-be bettors.

And after doing some searching, I’m just satisfied my current overpriced Direct TV sports package DOES have Versus.

For anyone wondering, just go to their website and type in your zip code, then go to sports packages, scroll down, and it will tell you what channel and if it is on your current uh, arrangement with them. For me, Versus is on 603. Voila! it’s the jackpot! all kinds of things there that were promised on Universal Sports Network. Yet the skeptic in me fears, come the Olympics, they’ll raise the price and put those somewhere else for an upgrade of another 12 bucks. Not as important, Olympics, as Wimbledon and Tour de France and suppose they know it, grrrr…my relationship with them is strained as it is.


Wog boy Says:

Grendel,

It is pleasure to read your posts:)

trufan,

You are right, it wasn’t only wet weather that Nadal didn’t like it was actually that he was running out of juice, I saw Last night Nadal from Miami2011 and USO2011, it is becaming regular, who would say that anybody can be better than Nadal in that part of the game.


tennisfansince76 Says:

@Grendel. anyone who can insert a Karl Marx reference into a post about the french open final has my respect!


grendel Says:

“the voice of reason and sensibility”, eh, conty? Ho-ho, better not let the good old nearest and dearest hear that one, they might have to be carried out on a stretcher, prolonged and uncontrollable laughter having induced apoplexy. When I watch tennis, rage is never very far away……


jane Says:

I have been going through this Beatles kick lately – yes, the Fab Four, like the big Four, sorta – anyhow, I am listening to them now and thinking, what’s the appropriate tune for this occasion?

“Don’t let me Down”?
“Revolution”?
“Let it Be”?
“Hard Day’s Night”?
“Yesterday”?
“Here Comes the Sun”?

What!?!!!? Someone: answer me! I wanna know the outcome; this liminality is making me crazy. Suspended at exactly the same amount of points each, but yet with Rafa in the lead, of course – this IS Roland Garros.

Maybe I should look to the Ramones instead: “I wanna be sedated” sounds about right.

conty, this zip code thing appears to be so simple; people shout “it’s on again; go to ESPN3!” But alas, we Canucks are not welcome. We are of the “wrong zone.” Alas, I suspect this Versus thing is the same.

Momentum is a slippery unpredictable thing; maybe a little like a wet tennis court. I hope Nole can seize it.

Welcome back grendel. Are you travelling? Hope you’re enjoying it if so.


conty Says:

Yes, I can only imagine, grendel. Rage? That would be amusing to see, actually. Not at all the picture I get of you.

Problem solved here as to posting. carlo, the worrier, sulker, and obsessive-compulsive. conty, the happy to be alive and employed. Fortunately for me, I have a couple people nearest and dearest that like whichever of me wakes up.

Was looking all over the draws and challengers for David Goffin, my new fave. Can’t find him anywhere. Maybe he’ll get a WC into one of the up-coming grass events. So happy to go to the green.


conty Says:

No, jane. I don’t know what you have in Canada. I think all of us in N. America can depend on defaulting to a European livestream, if we pay for high speed internet.

But this satellite TV has been terrorizing me with their billing and shell games. I need some kind of sedation when I open the bill, they want me to do online billing and give them a credit card. I have no intention of doing that because the monthly bill has rarely been what we’ve agreed upon. A couple months it stabilized but this month it was strangely low. 89$. Last time I had one strangely low, the next bill was outrageous: over 200$, no exaggeration. Should just go back to the local cable provider but I like having tennis channel and USN for cycling. But, was about to cancel Direct TV, if I had to pay more to get Versus, which is where they moved the cycling, I’ve resorted to live streaming. Really every month on the verge of cancelling them, it’s stressing me out.


Kimberly Says:

Ok if I sound silly sorry, from my numerous posts we all know I live in Miami and I have comcast cable. Will I be able to watch the match or no?


conty Says:

Comcast is what I have access to in Portland, Oregon, at the BF’s Kimberly – he has it all on his package with Comcast. Time Warner is what is in Socal, when there. I think Time-Warner has good programs – loved having RT-News, edgy real news, if you can stomach it. But the ‘bundle’at the condo down there last time wasn’t working for high speed internet. It would do the basics, email but I couldn’t get on tournytopia, and so on but BF’s brother needs to upgrade the router (account in his name). I knew more than the technician that was sent out. It’s a complex set-up there but I know an old router when I see one and when a yellow light is on, uh, that’s the router not working. There were 2 routers in a closet. I tell you, talk about sexist, the man sent out kept looking at my BF, when I was trying to explain it. BF didn’t understand it. One router did work and it showed, as it would come up as ‘strong connection’ with all green lights. But the technician couldn’t understand that. His info was the Motorola router as being theirs on the account, but the small Belkin was what was operating. sheesh, never seen a Motorola router like that one since I had dial-up in the 90′s. And the Belkin was itty bitty. Just threw my hands up.

Point being, Comcast does carry Versus, you just go to their website and do the same, i think. zip code and look up your monthly deal with them. Never had a Comcast account that didn’t offer Versus and ESPN3.


Kimberly Says:

I think I can only watch espn 3 online not on tv


Kimberly Says:

Been crushing between tennis sites and the basketball blogs. The celtic fans are showing up on the thunder blogs urging them to beat us!


conty Says:

Seems odd for Comcast to offer a sports packages and not carry Versus. Comcast usually has everything for a price. But this CableOne in Idaho doesn’t have Tennis Channel at all. oh but they have golf channel and everything else in sports. I’ve been disappointed with Tennis Channel and what they show and don’t show, according to who owns rights to what. They need to straighten that out if they are going to be a real ‘Tennis Channel,’like the ‘golf channel’, imo.

You can always go to free livestreams, Kimberly. Search for Lemonsport or Livescorehunter. They will have the match live, unless it’s a tournament in Miami, then even the European livestreams are blocked. I dunno. It’s not like anything is ‘free’ when paying for high speed internet. I don’t like it when I can’t get the news networks I want or sports. RT.com news is available online for me, thankfully. Can’t stand canned news.


Jatt Says:

Agreed, Sometimes I am just fed up with the same provider as comcast here in oregon. I haven’t tried dish or direct tv. Seems to be limited in choices we have. Lshunter is a good source for tennis but often streaming is super slow or gets jammed


Skeezer Says:

K,

Pay no attention to those Boston fans, a lot of hot air like MARK.


Skeezer Says:

jane,

Your problem is…..u should be listening to the GOAT of music,

MJ

Keep the Faith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUzYa-Wah6U&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Shaaanmmmooon!


M Says:

Kimberly, are you a Heat fan?

With all this RG drama, I don’t even know what’s going on in the NBA right now.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

The break probably gives Nole much time to think which is not good for him. He is an instinctive player who plays better when he has nothing to worry about.

On the other hand, Nadal is more of a methodical player. He needs to do lot of mental stategy to get into the match. He would have watched the tape over the set he lost and may have a counter strategy. Over a 5-set it may not work, but to do it quickly for 8-10 games may work out, till the time Nole picks up his game.

The money shot for Novak is the CC BH. If it starts firing then no matter what Nadal does he would always be a better player in their matchup. The problem was the shot left him completely in the 1st and 2nd set. He was just hitting the net over and over with that shot, till he abandoned it and started playing passively. He missed a CCBH in the last game Nadal had a hold.

Let’s see if Nole can come back and start hitting THE shot. If it fires, then it’s advantage Nole. If he takes his time to get the shot going, the match may be over before he gets that form


sam Says:

How is the weather today?
What are the chances of play resuming… Any Idea??


Gannu Says:

grendel…good to c ur posts after ages …;-) Always excellent to read and you write extremely well and logical which is hard to find in this forum of Fed, Nadal and Djoko maniacs..I being one of them ;-)


Mark Says:

Djoker is the worst No 1 in the history of tennis. His antics never cease to amaze and disgust me. He has even taken to smashing furniture on court. Absolutely classless . I suppose he gets that trait from his parents. Rough bunch!!!


pfprt Says:

I agree with Mark. I admire Djokovic as a skilled player. But come on, #1 in the world hammering his racquet like a little kid is pretty bad. Just an arrogant guy.


Kathy Says:

Andrew Millar said “The angst of Nadal pushed me over the edge, he seemed a bit spoiled out there”

He was just speaking it as it was. He asked quite reasonably “Why stop now? We have been playing in the rain for an hour”

Compared to Djokovic smashing rackets and furniture because he was being beaten.

Double standards I think.

Anyway, come on Rafa make it number 7.


courbon Says:

@Mark-You heatred for Novak is unbellivable.I remember you saing that would be better if he is dead (instead of his grandad ).Where’s that heatred coming from?I think is nationalistic based so you are probably Croat or Kosovar ‘hence heatred for Serb…


courbon Says:

@Jane:Definetelly Helter Skelter…


Dory Says:

It is time again!! Go Djoko and don’t make errors. Unleash the monster in you, only then you can beat the beast.


grendel Says:

Nirmal Kumar says:”He missed a CCBH in the last game Nadal had a hold”. As a matter of fact, that last game did have me wondering whether there another momentum shift was about to take place. If that was the case, maybe the break doesn’t favour Nadal as much as is generally thought. Possibly Djokovic will return to the fray in a relaxed and resolute frame of mind, aware that the break came at just the right time for him. Who knows?

I like NK’s distinction between a methodical Nadal and an impulsive Djokovic. It does seem to be the case that in a very close match up like this, what goes on in the head will determine the outcome. If Djokovic is tight, he’s done, for he won’t have time to undo the damage a rampant Nadal will certainly inflict. If Djokovic is playing freely, you still can’t count the warrior Nadal out. What will count more strongly – the immense confidence his RG record instils in him, or the lurking fear that Djokovic may, despite everything, have his number? That particular tight rope is perhaps due for a few wobbles.


grendel Says:

conty – I do understand the lure of betting. Having been bitten quite badly in that quarter – imagine blowing 6 months savings in a single throw in a futile attempt to recoup an evening’s losses – I tend to stay away. Besides, I’m a rotten loser.

jane – not yet, setting off in a couple of weeks. Gannu, I always enjoy your doom laden posts (in the heat of a Federer match), and tend to share your feelings on those occasions.


Mark Says:

@ Courbon. “I remember you saying that would be better if he is dead (instead of his grandad)”. You are a lying B&&&&&TD. I never said that – am not classless like you or djoker. The truth is I have never ever liked djoker but I wouldn’t wish death on anyone, even him. So go and stuff yourself, you liar!!


Maso Says:

Little assistance from the net and the break is gone…


Daniel Says:

Nadal moonballing wirking again. djokovic missed an easy shot and Now the God’s helping Nadal with a net cord.

Same problem for Djoko after rain break, got boroken.


Maso Says:

I hope Djoko can recover from this mentally. He really could have held serve, shanked a few hits, really unfortunate. Nadal’s not gonna let his serve go that easily, that’s for sure.


Maso Says:

Rafa’s serving really well.


mat4 Says:

It looks it’s over now.


van orten Says:

Nadal as always annoying player. Tennis gods must reward finally the player taking risks..painful to watch nole Beating himself


mat4 Says:

The next game will be crucial. But it doesn’t look good. Nole looks a bit discouraged.


courbon Says:

@Come down dear, come down…you said something on those lines.I touch the nerve did I?


Maso Says:

Ballsy going to get the point at the net! Well played, Nole. It’s not lost yet! Though if he doesn’t hold serve here… it could be over as fast as it began again.


Daniel Says:

Nadal taking a lot of risks and playing to the lines.


Maso Says:

Rafa’s definitely got the upper hand so far. He’s going for it in every rally. Djoko’s gonna have to go all out.


Maso Says:

Djoko is serving like crap. If he doesn’t bring that percentage up, it’s going to be impossible for him.


Daniel Says:

Good hold Djoko!


Daniel Says:

Nadal is painting the lines. He is feeling the ball


Maso Says:

Rafa unleashing the forehand…


Dory Says:

Nadal’s forehand is SUPER POWERFUL today.


Maso Says:

Come on, Nole, hang in there…


Dory Says:

The only thing that can save Nole today is if he plays fearlessly like yesterday. Going for everything.


gannu Says:

Sad..wish djoker somehow wins this…nadal is playing like a mad man ;-)


mat4 Says:

Great serving by Rafa. And his forehand is clicking. It will be very hard for Novak.


Daniel Says:

Well, Nadal clear estrategy is to go all out today. Even the first 2 sets yesterday he wasn’t playing this good. This a different match from the moment it stop yesterday. Let’s see how long can Djoko hold


van orten Says:

Nadal is worth than tooth ache…


Maso Says:

This could be Nole’s last serve game today…. come on, Novak, be strong, you can do still do this!


Maso Says:

Another backhand error…


Dory Says:

Nadal bolstered his serve and FH today much more.


Maso Says:

Djoko is returning really poorly, a bit annoying…


Maso Says:

Though Rafa is serving impeccably as well, he’s playing with a lot of confidence. I don’t see Djoker taking this set the way things are going. Still gotta hope, though…


Daniel Says:

The match is over. If they stop before Djoko serve to saty alive in the set he will be broken as the other 2 times. For him is better to keep playing until the ball swell:)


Dory Says:

I have that lump in my throat and heart ready to skip a beat.


Green900 Says:

Nadal will win 64 63 26 64


Maso Says:

Looks like Nadal’s going to break the third slam of his career! Two for Fed, one for Nole. Rafa – the slam breaker. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! … ahem. Come on, Nole, there’s still a shred of hope.


Daniel Says:

Overrrrrrr. Djoko is toast. Will have to go to work now and not see the end. Hope is just a passing cloud


Maso Says:

Do or die for Djoko.


Dory Says:

No no no please no.


Green900 Says:

So retarted, with rain delay. Nadal clear favorite to win.


Maso Says:

WHAT A POINT!!!!!


Dory Says:

Bonus points to Novak for super accuracy and superb execution under pressure.


Kint Verbal Says:

@michael
“the World saw that inspirational Tennis from Novak”

Actually the djoker picked up his game a little but the change came from the rain finally managing to soak the playing field. From there on Rafa could not play under those circumstances.

And it’s normal in 2012 to be able to cover a bloody field. Otherwise, Rafa-djocker, no real contest.


Maso Says:

Nole, put everything you have into this game, you need to break!!


gannu Says:

I am just such a nervous wreck for djoker…my god am I getting converted from a fed fan to djoker? ;-)))come on djoker…don’t give me a heart attack


Maso Says:

Rafa got ripped off there.


WTF Says:

This rain is helping Djoker again. If Nadal does not close it out in the 4th he will not win. If it goes to 5, Nole is mentally tougher.

No one has any business bringing Rafa to 5 sets except once by Isner in 8 years. The fact that Djokovic can will seriously rattle his confidence.

The rain dampening the court and his top spin also plays on his mind.


Dory Says:

Nole’s hitting the lines again!!!


Maso Says:

30all, holy crap. Lucky for Nole with the messed up call on the previous point but now the pressure is on Rafa…


Maso Says:

Djoker gonna regret that one…


Maso Says:

Well, now we gotta hope Djoker can give us a nerve-wrecking tiebreak!


Dory Says:

Oh noes hope he forces a tie break.


WTF Says:

Is Rod Laver in the audience?


gannu Says:

Oh god unbearable pressure…I can’t even type…how’s djoker playing? ;-)


Maso Says:

Stupid backhand miss by Djokovic… He’s making a lot of those. Come on, get some good 1st serves in there, neutralize Nadal early!


Dory Says:

WHY IS HE MAKING THESE ERRORS!!!!!???!!!!


Maso Says:

And another crazy miss by Nole…


Daniel Says:

Djoko with an excelent serve and Nadal with a moon retun that landed in. Match point. Will Nadal taste Djoko’s fury pr close it out


Dory Says:

It’s over. Djoker lost it. And I am very sad.


sub023 Says:

Are you fucking kidding me??


Maso Says:

…. Djoker gives it away on a double fault. F*ck this.


kriket Says:

Worst possible outcome, for Đoko and the fans..


Dory Says:

It’s over. French Open sucks the way the final was conducted.


Daniel Says:

Ajhhrvv. I will have to type in portuguese: QUE HORROR

What a pitty, thought we would have a drama tiebreak.

Congrats Nadal, 7 to establish himaelf with everybody already know, he is the Undisputed KING OF CLAY!!!


Maso Says:

I’m fairly disgusted… I can’t believe he gave it away with a DF…


courbon Says:

Congratulations to Rafa and all his fans


youyong Says:

Congrats to Rafa!!!!


Daniel Says:

And stop the Djoko bleeding in Slams.

Will Nadal translate to goathood. The hunt is on


jane Says:

Congrats to Rafa on his 7th FO and 11th slam.

Aww, Nole was nervous I think. Too much much to sleep with. :’( Sad for him.


WTF Says:

Well.. grats Rafa.

This must be the massivest sigh of relief he’s ever released in his entire career.

Double fault or UE on Nole’s part might have been the only way Nadal could close out a match point against a guy like Djoker. It’s an anticlimactic end to a thrilling match, but he’ll take it.

The rest of the slams this season I still expect to go the same as it did last year. Maybe it will be Djoker vs Nadal two more times with Djoker winning both.


WTF Says:

Dory Says:

“It’s over. French Open sucks the way the final was conducted.”

How would you have conducted it?


Maso Says:

Congrats to Nadal, 7 times winner at Roland Garros, that is an extraordinary feat. I just can’t believe we didn’t get a 5th set. That’s such a crappy way for this final to end.


gannu Says:

Yuck…heartbreaking loss again..the common factor in all those heart breaking losses is me ;-) guess I should stop supporting my favorites…its gannu’s curse..,next time I am gonna support rafa…;-) need some break..goingto play tennis now..c u all during wimbledon guys!!! Atleast god make fed win this!!


squirrel Says:

congrats Nadal! but what a bummer it ended on double fault. they should have put a roof!


Wog boy Says:

Congrats to Rafa and his fans.

For Nole fans, it is hard but our man made us proud.

See you in London


Maso Says:

It’s been too long since a FO final has gone the distance. Anyway, on to Wimbledon now. You gotta think Nadal will be very tough to beat once again. Djokovic can take some positives out of this, since it’s the first time he makes it to the French Open final. … DAMNIT, NO 5TH SET!!! =( =( =( =( =(


Mark Says:

VAMOS KING!! Congrats to all Rafa fans, Brando, Kimberly, Alison and others. Jamie was right!!!


Dory Says:

The motherf*ckers are not showing the trophy ceremony here in India on Neo Sports. Only advertisements.


courbon Says:

Can we also aknowledge one more thing:
At the moment the GOAT is Roger Federe ’cause he’s got 16 slams.
GOAT on clay is Nadal.He just passed Borgs record.
Djokovic stil has long way to go to cath up with those two…(but don’t write him off)


Maso Says:

And Nadal also ties Borg’s slam record with 11. I guess this is quite an epic day for tennis! Someone finally winning 4 slams in a row would have certainly been more epic, but it seems like Rafa is guarding that slam gate quite ferociously =)


van orten Says:

i will stop watchin roland garros as long as nadal is still there..biggest momentum swift in the history of tennis thanks to bloddy rain…

congrats nadal..i will try to accept that he will never go away…he will win 5 roland garros more that is for sure and maybe some wimbledon or australian opens. so federer better win some slams this year otherwise nadal will and that i thought would be impossible with his game to achieve have more slams than maestro…
good night tennis good night


Steve Says:

who double faults on match point? hahahaha.
Choke-kovic.


jane Says:

Rafa will have some momentum from this for sure! Enjoy the day Rafa fans!

As for Nole fans, we can still hope that Nole can take the positives away from this event: he got to his first French Open final and he could stay with Rafa at times. He also won 4 of the last 5 slams. He can have other chances to try for the French.


Brando Says:

cannot comment much (at work), but i want to say to the novak fans:

KEEP YOUR HEAD UP- YOUR GUY IS AN ABSOLUTE CHAMP!

Jane, wog boy etc- forget the loss and remember the 3 in a row.

and im CERTAIN hell get the career slam!

rafa fans:

thank god and at long last a major tophy win.

VAMOSS RAFAAAAA!!!!!!!!!


jane Says:

Thanks Brando, enjoy it! You too Kimberly, Lulu, alison, and others.


WTF Says:

courbon Says:

“Can we also aknowledge one more thing:
At the moment the GOAT is Roger Federe ’cause he’s got 16 slams.”

Yes.

“GOAT on clay is Nadal.He just passed Borgs record.”

Also yes.

“Djokovic stil has long way to go to cath up with those two…(but don’t write him off)”

He won’t catch up to Nadal in French Opens, but catching up to Federer in total slams is not impossible. Federer will not be adding to his tally. Whether Djoker can win 12 more will depend on whether he gets injured or not. He doesn’t seem like the injuring type. I don’t remember the last time he was injured.

I do think he will win the FO one day as well as a Grand Slam or Nole Slam. If you’re a Nadal supporter this final had to be the most nerve wracking FO final win of his out of 7. This was the only final where I did not put Nadal as favorite, but merely 50/50. Actually the Soderling final was a big question mark but it turned out to be a routine stomp.

The only guy capable of beating Nadal at the French Open is Djokovic (provided Nadal isn’t carrying an injury of some sort). I do not foresee Nadal continuing to go undefeated at FO until retirement. Someone will beat him. And that year will be the year Nole completes his career slam.


Maso Says:

Truth is, if Djoko had played his game the whole match, he could have won it, there is no doubt. I’m not saying he *would* have, but it would have been within his means. That’s not something that can be said about any other player on the clay, I think. (Except mayyyyybe Del Potro on a glorious day but that would remain to be proved)


Lenny Says:

@van orten It wasn’t the rain that caused Nole to go down 2 sets to 0 in the first place. The luck all evens out in the end. Champions overcome what they need to.


Dory Says:

The motherf*ckers on Neo Sports India showed only advertisements first during the trophy ceremony and then lost the signal and never showed anything after Nadal won. Thank God I could catch it all on an internet stream. SCREW YOU Neo Sports. These basturds should never ever be given a contract to cover a Grand Slam event.


courbon Says:

@WTF:I agree with you.What I meant really that Djoko may one day have 10-11 slams and be with titans of tennis (Bjorg,Nadal,Federer,Mac and others…)but surely he cant catch with Rafa on clay or even with Roger (possible but slim chance…)


jane Says:

Maso, I feel like he was close, but two things hurt him: errors early yesterday and of course today, and never serving as well as he can. But overall, he was close. He could still break Rafa’s serve, he could hang with him, but maybe there was a lot of pressure with this history thing. Sleeping on it after he had finally loosened up yesterday probably brought it all fresh in his mind again. Rafa proved the tougher one mentally at the beginning of both days, but Nole was getting his confidence yesterday. He came out edgy today and Rafa came out strong.

It was a good match, not a rout. Nole took a set with some momentum. It wasn’t all bad. Am still totally sad, but we move to lawns. And Wimbledon has a roof! And lights even!


metan Says:

I love you rafa, vamos, the best birthday ever,


courbon Says:

Thanks Brando.
@Lenny:You are right.


grendel Says:

Baffled – I understood they weren’t playing till about now. Popped onto this site – and it’s all over!Oh, well – sounds from the posts as if I haven’t missed much.

Makes me wonder, though. I always had a sneaking feeling, right after Nadal beat Puerta for his first slam, that he was going to break all the records. There was something absolutely relentless about him which I couldn’t recall encountering before in any arena, never mind tennis. He was almost like something out of science fiction. This feeling is now stronger than ever. People have always said that Nadal’s playing style ensured a relatively short career at the very top. I understood the logic, but never for an instant believed it – Nadal was someone who broke all the rules. He was designed to be a winning machine, and his team has been organized accordingly. Not until every significant record has been broken, shot to pieces in fact, will he call a halt and resume activities as a normal human being.

If this sounds apocalyptic – well, it probably is. But – Nadal: he’s something else. Has anyone read Arthur C Clarke’s “Childhood’s End” where a new kind of being evolves and – hang on, this is getting out of hand, help……


kriket Says:

Who said noone would cry after this match? :P


Dory Says:

The only satisfactory thing that can happen for me now is Roger winning Wimbledon in July. Sampras already has 7 Wimbledons, Roger has an amazing 5 in a row Wimbys+1. He can win another. And Novak can win 4 more Australians to make it 7 Aussie Opens.


Mark Says:

@ Metan. :-)))))


WTF Says:

Just remembered that double fault on match point was how it ended in the Rome final also. Hmmm..


WTF Says:

^ And that Rome final was also delayed till Monday.

How uncanny.


queen Says:

What a beutiful day! Wept with you Rafa. Feels so good!


Humble Rafa Says:

Thank you for all your wishes. I was my pleasure.

Dear Arrotards,

You are welcome.


Jatt Says:

Congrats humble Rafa


Skeezer Says:

Congrats to all the Rafa fans.

“I don’t need to be disappointed. … This is the best result I ever had at Roland Garros. There are many more majors to come,” Djokovic told NBC.”

Indeed. Nole fans take heart.


Michael Says:

Congratulations to Nadal for his Seventh French Open title. It is a unique achievement which will remain a record for some time to come. Nadal played well and deserved the title. Also, my sympathies to Novak for missing the Grand slam. He came so close but so near and yet so far !! If rain had not played spoilsport yesterday, who knows may be Novak would have won for he had Nadal on tenderhooks bewildered as how to tackle a marauding Novak who was hitting in all corners. But unfortunately, rains hit his momentum and today he was not the same Novak and Nadal recovered his level of play which gave the edge to him. It is a consolation for Novak that he was the one to take a set against Nadal and this must act as a fire spark for him to improve on clay Surface where he is inching closer to Nadal. If he can improve his level, he can well achieve a career grand slam even next year.


Michael Says:

Novak serving double faults on match points is not a good sign. It shows that he wilts under pressure. This happened in Rome and now it has happened here also.


jane Says:

Thanks skeeze, for the quotation.


Michael Says:

Somebody must stop Nadal at Rolland Garros soon. It is getting pretty boring and monotonous. Rolland Garros and the French crowd needs a new Champion.


Lulu Iberica Says:

Wow! I am so RELIEVED, happy, and proud for Rafa! Congrats, Champ, on your 7th FO!

Novak fans, your man was really a hero to come back from two sets down and he stomped Rafa in that 3rd set.

I agree with courbon and others — Fed is GOAT, Rafa is clay GOAT, and Novak at his best can beat anyone. I was so stressed during this final I thought maybe I need to start rooting for Ferrer, or someone else who I don’t actually expect to win a slam just to lower the tension level!


Lulu Iberica Says:

Yes, it was sad to see Novak lose on a double fault. I hate to see anyone do that!


Casa de Rafa Says:

To all you Rafa haters, Allez Up Your F*cking A$$!

HAIL TO THE KING!

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7583/fackicknadal.gif


Lou_tennisfan Says:

What a performance by Rafa today. Nole did play good tennis but then good, great can never be enough against the greatest clay court player in the world. 7th win, 11th GS title- it’s really something every player dreams of and today Rafael Nadal has achieved that- Many many congratulations to him, his team and his fans.

Today’s victory just goes on to show the mentality of this champion-Considering what he went through last year and to reverse the table calls for the respect even from people who are not his fans. To defeat a player who has owned you mentally since last year required lots of courage, hard work and dedication and I think what Nadal has done today shows that it’s all in the mind of players when it comes to achieving the desired results against your fierce competitor. Very Well done Rafael Nadal!

The PHENOMENADAL Experience against Novak Djokovic! http://bit.ly/N3giEA


grendel Says:

“Somebody must stop Nadal at Rolland Garros soon. It is getting pretty boring and monotonous”.

But not boring to Nadal. There’s the rub. Unlike Borg, he’ll never be able to have enough of it, and I can see no reason why he won’t win 10, 11, 12 RG’s. He’s getting better, his immediate rivals are getting older and will not get better and most will get worse, and there is absolutely no fierce young un in sight. One solution might be – just give Nadal the trophy for the next 3 or 4 years, and let everyone else battle it out amongst each other.


youyong Says:

Why is it boring when history is created? Whether it is an easy or difficult win, isn’t it interesting to see records being broken? Frankly this match could have gone either way and it was really nail biting for both sides when Nole turned the tide to bring the match to a possible 5th set. Sure, he did tighten at the crucial point but you can’t deny the drama of each point. Both of them played incredible rallies and most of them had to end pending on who mentally wilted first. I see this as a prelude to a possibly even greater FO final next year, something akin to that Wimbledon final which Rafa finally beat Roger to win. We may see a match next year that will be a reverse of fortune but have a lot more drama.


Anna Says:

Was sweating bullets a good deal of the time, but Rafa came to play today. The beat down from Nole was getting really old, so hopefully this is the beginning of a true rivalry. This win is particularly sweet because it’s history making and every fan of Nadals knows he loves “the history”.


Vamos Says:

Sampras played 14 wimbledons to win 7 titles- he lost 7 times there- rafa has won 7 times in 8 years at french- has lost ONCE #perspective


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Great victory for Nadal.

It’s obvious that NAdal needs break to rev up his mental strength. He does it even in a mid match to regroup, hence we see many timeouts and bandage packing.

Nadal was clearly the better player today from the first game and Novak looked a bit lost from the begining.

I see this match more like their USO 10. Their first match and Novak is more content and cautious on reaching the finals. But next time if they meet at FO, I bet Novak would be much better prepared and result would be similar to USO 11.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I really cannot understand why people find Rafa’s FO victory as boring. If we can tolerate and expect a 16 time slam champion to win one more slam, why is that Rafa’s success is boring?


jane Says:

Rafole has been a topsy-turvy rivalry thus far: Nadal had considerable momentum there for a while, winning all the finals on clay in 2009 and then 2010 USO, and then came 2011 when Nole finally gained some ground in their H2H and made it more competitive. Now, Rafa has won 3 straight. I do hope it levels out and they exchange wins/losses to keep the suspense. Their matches are usually close no matter who has momentum though.

BTW, does Rafa have a losing H2H with ANYONE still playing?


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Though Rafa got through this FO without much stress, but I do see most of the matches he played with his pre-2007 style of tennis.

He played like a true clay courter rather than an aggressive player like he did from 2008. He was winning mostly by his defence, and when he pressed for aggressive style, most of the points he had errors.

Maybe getting this FO will get the monkey off his back and he may start unleashing his aggressive style starting Wimbledon.

Now Nadal would be the favourite for Wimbledon.


C!P! Says:

Jane , Rafa vs. Davydenko is 5-6


Dory Says:

Congrats to Nadal fans. He truly is the man to beat on clay and he’s still king of clay.


queen Says:

@ MMichael Says:
Somebody must stop Nadal at Rolland Garros soon. It is getting pretty boring and monotonous. Rolland Garros and the French crowd needs a new Champion.

No Michael, people like you are very boring and monotonous.


dari Says:

Just landed from.the flight and see the news. Congrats to rafa!
Novak- stay strong!
Sucks abouy the double dault. On to grass!


Joe W Says:

Conty – thanks for researching that. We could start a whole new thread on the possibilities that a 3 set format opens up for players outside of the top 4 to reach the final. Should be really interesting.

Here’s hoping that there’s TV coverage (in the States). I don’t recall NBC broadcasting a lot of tennis during the 2008 Olympics.


Bobby Says:

The same people who were applauding Federer when he was winning everything left and right are now crying when Rafa wins his share.It is just sour grapes fellows.Eat it.


grendel Says:

“I really cannot understand why people find Rafa’s FO victory as boring. If we can tolerate and expect a 16 time slam champion to win one more slam, why is that Rafa’s success is boring?”

It’s about perspective. There is nothing objectively boring about anything. Lewis Wolpert called the c.elegans worm, about the size of a comma, “the most boring animal imaginable”. A fellow biologist shot back that c.elegans belongs to a group which makes up about 80 % of all the animals in the world. And whilst conceding that c.elegans lacks a brain, he waxed lyrical about its simple nervous system and pointed out, with an air of triumph, that it had a wiggling mechanism.

Nadal, too, has a wiggling mechanism which is pretty impressive. Even so, whilst making allowances for the sore loser side of things – always important I think in these types of discussion, my impression is that most of us are sore losers but try to conceal it – I think there is something about Nadal which is unique. The suspicion is that whilst he is obviously one of the most skilful players the tennis world has thrown up in the modern era, his actual dominance and threatened future dominance owes at least as much to his startling mental makeup as to his tennis playing skills. And this is resented, because there seems to be no way to counter it, since the attribute is partly inborn but also heavily nurtured from a very young age.

That, at any rate is my take.


Andrea Says:

And so it goes…..in an era when he plays his two toughest foes, the only person to stretch him to five sets at RG is….Isner. Go figure.


M Says:

“@ MMichael Says:
Somebody must stop Nadal at Rolland Garros soon. It is getting pretty boring and monotonous. “

Ever consider the possibility the problem might be your attention span …?

Vamos, Rafa!!

*waves at grendel*


Humble Rafa Says:

To the tennis “fans”, who find my winning French Opens boring, I am sure you had no problems watching the Arrogant One win 6 Wimbledons in 7 years. Consider yourselves biased. All is well in Rafa land.


jane Says:

grendel, we don’t know Nadal will become the Terminator and win everything in sight. It sort of feels like that because this win will boost his confidence and definitely give Rafa momentum.

And yeah, it sucks to see Nole lose. Can’t hide that. :(

However, I think and hope he will bounce back from this because he reached his first FO final and he must feel like he had chances in that match. When Fed lost to Rafa at the FO in 2006 and 2007 he still went on to win Wimbledon and the USO. Maybe Nole won’t do that, but I am not giving up on him to have chances in the coming slams. There are many other players who will also be in with a shot to win: Tsonga could do well at Wimbledon and Delpo. Not to mention Murray, another guy on whom I am not giving up.

Nor should you give up on Fed; he still reaches the semis of most slams; one of these times, he could bust through to the finals, and then it’s very possible he’ll win another slam. He’s been very close at the last two USO semis in particular. Maybe the tennis gods smiled on Nole a little bit, as he’d lost 3 in a row to Fed there: 07, 08, 09. Plus Nole just went for it, and maybe fortune does favour the brave. I don’t know.

Anyhow, after Rafa’s dominant years (08, 10) he then went on to have not-quite-as-dominant years the following ones (09, 11): nobody is perfect; there are no winning machines. Dominance can’t last forever; time will catch up at the very least. Even if opponents can’t.

Tennis is full of possibilities. We might even have a new champion at Roland Garros next year. Who knows?


RZ Says:

I don’t think any player winning the same slam is boring. It’s just that Rafa is so dominant at RG that he hasn’t even had close matches. But we can’t blame Rafa for his top-notch performances. He’s just doing what he’s supposed to do: play good tennis when it counts the most.


courbon Says:

@Lulu L. and Humble Rafa:Double fault at the end was anti climax but thats sport…Once more, congrats and enjoy


Kimberly Says:

Hellloooo all! Great morning. Well done to Nadal.

Congrats to all Rafa fans, there was none happier than Colin07 who had me wash and lay out his Red French Open shirt (because of course he wore yesterday)to wear to camp today to support Nadal. His camp starts at nine and he didn’t wake up until about 8:35 five to ten minutes after the match had ended. I heard him getting dressed and then mini rafa came out announcing he was wearing his outfit to support Rafa and we told him he won. His little face lit up and he ran and gave me a big hug. Then said he would still wear the outfit in honor of the win. Nothing like the excitment of a child.

Kaiser claims it was the result he wanted to avoid days of bitch on wheels. Any dislike of Nadal trumped by desire to avoid domestic unpleasantness.

So congrats to my fellow fans, Lulu, Brando, Allision, Mark, Rick, Roger Federer Fan (you are not fooling anyone) Queen, Metan and all others.

Condolences to Djokovic fans but congrats on his gracious conduct and his attitude seems very positive. I don’t think this loss will affect him much.


racquet Says:

Just came home to see that Rafa pulled it off. Congrats to him for this truly remarkable achievement and to all his fans. Jane, don’t fret too much about Nole. He will undoubtedly bounce back.


jane Says:

Kimberly, sweet story about little Colin-now-7: was that 7th bday a sigh? And thanks again for organizing the bracket challenges.

racquet, cheers, onto the lawns it is!


Sienna Says:

There is only one favorite for Wimbledon. He who has wonevery thing the last 6 months on a fast court. After US open we have seen a different Fed on the fast lane. He is living the good life and loving it.

Times they ara changing! Nadal in a litle confident boost ? No way Jose. We are very much in 2006/2007 stylo. And Roger gets the better of Nadal in the fast court. TMF times are upon us. Starting with Halle/wimbly.


Mark Says:

@ Kimberly. :-)))))))


Nina Says:

The dream is over nole fans. A once in a lifetime opportunity. Everything sucks. Really, i can’t think of anything else. Oh yeah, congrats to Rafa.


Kimberly Says:

Nina–us Nadal and Fed fans have been there with you. Although for Fed it was twice in a lifetime.


zola Says:

Nina,
It is a bad feeling to see your player lose. As Kimberly says, we have all been there.

But you might find consolation in the fact that Djoko gave a good fight. As he himself said, RG could have been over for him in the earlier rounds. Everything indicates that he will come back and will try more and more. He is only 25.


zola Says:

Awww….Kimberly, hugs to your Colin07! How sweet!


Achilles Says:

Nadal is good for a total of at least 10 French Opens. Like Federer, the French will be Djokovic’s bête noir.


WTF Says:

Michael Says:

“Congratulations to Nadal for his Seventh French Open title. It is a unique achievement which will remain a record for some time to come. Nadal played well and deserved the title. Also, my sympathies to Novak for missing the Grand slam. He came so close but so near and yet so far !! If rain had not played spoilsport yesterday, who knows may be Novak would have won for he had Nadal on tenderhooks bewildered as how to tackle a marauding Novak who was hitting in all corners. But unfortunately, rains hit his momentum and today he was not the same Novak and Nadal recovered his level of play which gave the edge to him. It is a consolation for Novak that he was the one to take a set against Nadal and this must act as a fire spark for him to improve on clay Surface where he is inching closer to Nadal. If he can improve his level, he can well achieve a career grand slam even next year.”

Actually, the rain was what saved Novak. He was down and out until it started drizzling which dampened the court and blunted Nadal’s heavy bouncing balls. The rain delay is along with wet surface was what allowed Novak to rally himself back into it and take 8 games in a row.

Had it not been for any rain at all, Nadal would have won in straight sets.

You can’t look a gift horse in the mouth.


WTF Says:

Michael Says:

“Somebody must stop Nadal at Rolland Garros soon. It is getting pretty boring and monotonous. Rolland Garros and the French crowd needs a new Champion.”

Were you happy Federer finally got beaten at Wimbledon in 2008 (after 5 straight titles) by Nadal then? Or Pete in 96 by Krajicek? How about Federer in 2009 at the US Open (after 5 straight titles) by Del Potro?


WTF Says:

Humble Rafa Says:

“To the tennis “fans”, who find my winning French Opens boring, I am sure you had no problems watching the Arrogant One win 6 Wimbledons in 7 years. Consider yourselves biased. All is well in Rafa land.”

When did your English get so good Rafa? Could you please stop saying “no?”? And also stop describing your feelings of elation as “dream”. Learn some new words. Speak in your press conferences the same way you speak on these forums, kthxbai.


madmax Says:

grendel Says:
“I really cannot understand why people find Rafa’s FO victory as boring. If we can tolerate and expect a 16 time slam champion to win one more slam, why is that Rafa’s success is boring?”

grendel, if you are referring to me, I would like to refer to you many times in the past when you have called rafa’s game boring. You just decide right now to disagree with what you have said before, and please don’t ask me to post your posts, just go back a few months (to include last year), they are all there.

I don’t find Rafa’s game attractive to watch in the slightest. I find Roger’s game more pleasing, in fact, much more pleasing on the eye.

Like I said to RSutherland, I congratulate Rafa wholeheartedly for winning for his seventh FO slam. Kimberley especially, you must be so happy for him. Hope your celebrations last well into the night.

grendel, you shouldn’t condemn people for use of the word boring. You have used it plenty of times, worse, we are all different and we don’t all like the same player, for obvious reasons.

This is major for Rafa though and good luck to him.


grendel Says:

madmax

The words you attribute to me are actually a quote from Nirmal Kumar, and I was putting my own spin on what some people might have meant about Nadal’s dominance being monotonous. Incidentally, I wouldn’t say Nadal’s game is boring – I disagree here with steve-o, generally a perceptive critic. I think Nadal’s game can be strangely exciting as well as intensely irritating. Even his defence can be compelling to watch, as can Djokovic’s. It is to be admired in the same way that one gasps at a man who dances on a tightrope without a net – it can be hard to credit what you are seeing. And in the case of both players, the defence is (always with Djokovic, sometimes with Nadal) the foundation for attack. My dislike of Nadal is sort of personal. Subjective, you might say. But I certainly have no objections to you finding him boring, madmax. Why should I? Some people find Federer boring, apparently, and I’m cool with that too. Taste is unaccountable, and long may it remain so.

Sienna says:”There is only one favorite for Wimbledon. He who has wonevery thing the last 6 months on a fast court.” But Wimbledon is not fast any more, hasn’t been for a while. Meanwhile, well though Federer has been playing (on the whole), there has to be a question mark on his capacity to perform at a grand slam these days. jane says he is still getting to semis etc. Yes, certainly, his consistency is truly remarkable. But this says nothing about whether he is a genuine threat to actually win a grand slam. I find it very hard to envisage him beating either Nadal or Djokovic any more over 5 sets. Of course, someone else might do the dirty work for him, and he could thereby slip in through the back door as it were. But I just happen to think both Djokovic and Nadal are better players than Federer these days. That is to say, when they are truly focused on winning, I don’t believe Federer can beat them. Of course, you never know – an isolated and exceptional performance may still be possible, I suppose.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

grendel, excellent points. Though being a Roger fan and not a big fan of Rafa’s tennis, the man has been growing on me for past few years.

He is not a one dimensional player anymore as people call him. He was, but not any more.


skeezer Says:

grendel

“I think Nadal’s game can be strangely exciting as well as intensely irritating.”

I usually don’t try to pick out sentences in your posts, as it must be read in context, but my guilty pleasure won over.

I find Rafa’s game exactly that. “Intensely irritating” and may I add Irritating hypnotic…

After watching him for umpteenth un necessary hours I feel I am in a hypnotic trance and anyone could tell me to do something and I probably could not resist to do so unwillingly. I suddenly see those dart board things that twirl and I would fall to the Rafa trance….please help! AAARRGGHHHH!!!


Michael Says:

Grendel,

One solution might be – just give Nadal the trophy for the next 3 or 4 years, and let everyone else battle it out amongst each other

The question is for what when you have already given the trophy ?? That being said, I think Novak is slowly finding the measure of Rafa on Clay and hopefully next time he will give him a much better fight. The overall difference was that Novak always takes his own time to settle after a break, but Nadal on the other hand plays his swashbuckling Tennis right from the start. The rains halted Novak’s momentum and when he came back the next day, he was not the same player. One thing I notice is that Nadal gets very tired after playing two sets these days and then his shots lack the sting as earlier. But the rains gave a new lease of life to him and he came back fresh and executed his murderous forehand to perfection.


Michael Says:

WTF,

Were you happy Federer finally got beaten at Wimbledon in 2008 (after 5 straight titles) by Nadal then? Or Pete in 96 by Krajicek? How about Federer in 2009 at the US Open (after 5 straight titles) by Del Potro?

Whether I am happy or not, The point is they were stopped while Nadal is not and continuing his streak. He is too much dominating at Rolland Garros and that makes the tournament a real dampner sustaining spectator interest. When you already know the winner, why should you see that sport ???


madmax Says:

Ah grendel, I do see. I finally had the chance to read all the posts before yours, so an easy mistake to make, and I apologise to you.

Nevertheless, I think perhaps that I am bored. Bored for a number of reasons. 1 16th of Roger’s slams comes on clay. Rafa’s? 70% of his slams on clay; an imbalance, but never the less an achievement, I admit.

I guess I want something new to happen grendel. New and exciting. I dislike this period intensely for what it is. Further condemnation of Federer and for what? and for why? The guy is an icon to me, and will forever be so.

Tennis needs new blood. I hope for the dolgos and the demetrievs to step it up, and the raonics, just to add more spice and fire.

I probably need a break! I accept that.


Michael Says:

Rafa’s? 70% of his slams on clay; an imbalance, but never the less an achievement, I admit.

Roger’s way too less while Rafa’s is way too more. Has any player who made a career grand slam achieved a perfect balance ?


tennisfansince76 Says:

@Michael Roger would have 6 count em 6! FO’s if not for dastardly villain rafa. and that would be plenty. no imbalance there. during his prime Raj was the best on everything but clay where he was 2nd best to Rafa.


tennisfansince76 Says:

interesting. after watching the last game of the final it seems like Rafa did not do anything special to win. Nole started the game well and Rafa was not looking exceptionally bold or confident. in fact he rather looked like he was bracing for a TB. and then Nole went off the rails w/ errors + short balls and topped it off w/ a double fault.


WTF Says:

Michael:

“Whether I am happy or not, The point is they were stopped while Nadal is not and continuing his streak. He is too much dominating at Rolland Garros and that makes the tournament a real dampner sustaining spectator interest. When you already know the winner, why should you see that sport ???”

So before Federer was stopped, you lost a lot of spectator interest at Wimbledon and US Open am I correct?


Michael Says:

WTF,

All said and done, we need some competition to make the Sport interesting and that is exactly my point.


Michael Says:

Tennisfan,

I agree that but for Nadal, Roger would have by now amassed 20 majors atleast. But I think if there is one shrink in the armoury of Roger in majors count, it is the French Open although he made four finals there.


Steve 27 Says:

Michael yo have a double standard. If Nadal win is boring but if Federer does its interesting. What abiased comment! One thing is your preference another is your assumptions.


Michael Says:

Steve 27, I did not say that. Do not put words into my mouth. I do not want to pretend that I am not a fan of Roger. I admire him for all that he has done in this sport. In the same manner, I respect all the other players including Nadal, Novak etc., and their significant achievements which have lifted this sport and made it more popular. Tennis is today fortunate that we have a triumvarate of fantastic record setting players and let us all treasure the moments we enjoy that is in store. Now coming to my post, what I said is Roger would have amassed 20 if he was not stopped by Nadal and that is a fact. But Tennis has benefited by the competition Roger has with Nadal and this has added more glamour to the game. It is such competition which will benefit the Sport. We fans may have our preference which is subject to bias, but it is Tennis which should win in the end.

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