French Open Monday Play Has Been Cancelled, Novak Djokovic Has To Win 4 Matches In 6 Days?
by Staff | May 30th, 2016, 8:24 am
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Fourth round play Monday at the French Open has already been cancelled, the tournament announced at 7:45am ET (1:45pm local).

The full day cancellation is the first since Tuesday, May 30, 2000 when the tournament lost the entire day due to rain.

Matches today have been postponed which will compress the schedule. Men were slated to complete their fourth today, and that will mean top half players like Novak Djokovic will have to win four best-of-5 matches in six days to capture the title, if the tournament keeps its Sunday men’s final.

Defending champion Stan Wawrinka and Andy Murray are already through to the quarterfinals and are still on schedule.


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108 Comments for French Open Monday Play Has Been Cancelled, Novak Djokovic Has To Win 4 Matches In 6 Days?

Pauly Says:

Wow heavy rain no play
Wawrinka Murray very lucky to be in quarter final
They can now get some rest
While others need to play to catch up
French can’t afford roof


Michael Says:

I think it works both ways. Novak and the other players have got added rest ahead of their encounters. It is true that they have to play atleast for the next four days if they stay on course to win the title, but then these two days rest also will allow them to rejunevate and refresh themselves and might not be such a disadvantage as made out to be.

But it is high time that Rolland Garros makes plans to install a roof without delay to hold spectators interest. It is the only slam amongst the four which has shied away from constructing it and that is not proving to be an intelligent move with rain playing havoc every now and then.


Dave Says:

Michael,

It doesn’t work like that. What rest did they honestly need? Especially Nole. He didn’t have any taxing matches the first 3 rounds. It’s the LAST 4 rounds of a tournament in 6 days. Totally not right. Now he will really need to get through these matches fast, if they stick to the schedule. On Nole’s side of the draw, it will be a big disadvantage for many players. Berdych and Ferrer could be a long match with these 2 guys being more evenly matched. And than have to play Nole without a day in between, ouch. This really isn’t fair to anyone on this half of the draw.


sisay Says:

At least navak is mentally ready this time. He now knows a tough schedule awaits him.


Dave Says:

Sisay,

That’s the only advantage I see. Novak being more focused to get through the matches fast and not waste and precious energy that will be needed for a tough semi against possibly thiem and a tough final against stan or Andy.


Dave Says:

any precious energy.


anki Says:

So unfair to everyone in the top half. Tomorrow’s forecast also says 90% rain. So what are they going to do now? The top half players needs to play four days in a row. Novak- RBA, Berdych – Ferrer can be lengthy matches. Such a badly organised grand slam, worse than a ATP 250. Bottom half players got really lucky.


Van Persie Says:

Perhaps Novak-RBA and Berdych-Ferrer will play tomorrow, and the matches for bottom half players will be canceleld . Could also happen. Have seen the wheather forecast, and it does not look good.


Van Persie Says:

Am sure, that Nowak wil win in 3 sets tomorrow


Van Persie Says:

Correction: Novak :)


Wog Boy Says:

They can move final to monday and reschedule top half to make it more fair with bottom half, but they won’t do it.


Van Persie Says:

WB,

I have the feeling that the weather will be so bad, that they will move the final on monday.
Hope that Nole get the FO this time and I will not follow this GS anymore. It is a joke. It is disrespectfull to the players and to the spectators.


Wog Boy Says:

VP,

It is what it is, we can only hope for the best. The only thing is that somehow Nole and scheduling don’t go hand in hand at USO and FO..


Klaas Says:

This GS is falling apart sportswise, especially if they lose one more day. The ones to profit though, are likely the best players, as they are more likely to play shorter matches. One prolonged match though, you will be in trouble in the top half.


jane Says:

gah! novak always has the worst luck with weather and delays. : / last year he had to play friday, saturday & sunday and one us open he had to play his semi over 2 days while the other side was done, so again less rest. and even in wimbledon one year – 2007 i think? – the bottom half with rafa and novak had to play like 4 days in a row or something, while the other side was resting.

i hate when weather interferes and mucks with the level playing field. sigh….anyhow, here’s the revised OOP for tomorrow. hoping for decent weather so at least the top half of the draw can get through.

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/schedule/index.html


AndyMira Says:

It rain so much because they feel very sad that Rafa not be able to play on his beloved court..


sisay Says:

I am feeling that there will be heavy rain till sunday and all matches will be scheduled for next week…(or next year lol) this is a really poor tournament.


Wog Boy Says:

AO and Wimbledon advantage, thanks to roofs and lights, is that they can reschedule matches within existing day, even if they have to finish around or after midnight is better than playing day after day. At AO, thanks to three Arenas with roofs you can play simultaneously two GS tournaments even if it is raining every day, they invested literally hundreds of millions of dollars in the last ten or so years in Melbourne park and have by far the best facilities out of all four GSs, and don’t tell me Melbourne has more money than NY or Paris..


Van Persie Says:

“and don’t tell me Melbourne has more money than NY or Paris..” I wont say that WB. I can only say, Melbourne and London are more respectful.

And, ans you said WB, it is what it is. I will not comment on that anymore :)


Van Persie Says:

I can only hope, that Novak is mentally well prepared for these situations


Wog Boy Says:

VP,

This is the time when coaches earn their money, time for Boris to step in.


sisay Says:

AndyMira

I also think that FO is controled by Extraterrestrials who loves and supports Rafa…so that they always make sure his rivals dont get this trophy…


Van Persie Says:

hehe, further sleepless nights for Boris :)
I am sure that he will find the way to motivate and reassure Novak…and hope that Novaks parents are not there yet :D. They would agitate him more


anki Says:

So much for Novak’s cake walk of a draw. RBA will be more tricky for Novak then say a Berdych or Ferrer. I just hope Nole RBA don’t go the distance tomorrow, if at all they play..


Pauly Says:

AndyMira

Very funny
I don’t think this weather would’ve suited our favourite player Nadal
However I’m still upset that he went out as a result of injury
Injury defeated him not another player
My favourite for the Title is Murray I think he’s the man to beat if he can stay strong mentally but of course he’s prone to choking in big finals
I’ve lost interest in this year’s French open
If Djokovic wins good for him


Pauly Says:

Dave

You got to be kidding
Tough match against theim ?
Don’t be silly
Theim is 3 yrs away from his best form
He’s just a young pimply faced kid
Djokovic will swat him like a fly
The real test for Djokovic withdraw from the event due to wrist injury
Nadal would’ve thumped theim also
Djokovic will make the final I guarantee it 100%
However winning won’t be easy in terms of who he prefer to play
Murray for sure Coz Murray chokes
Wawrinka if he gets past Murray will be very dangerous to repeat


Van Persie Says:

Hi Andy Mira,

Hope you are well.
I would lie , if I would tell, that I am sorry, that Rafa left the tournament, but I am sorry for you :)…and am also not glad, that Rafa has health problems.


BBB Says:

Isn’t the future of the FO at Roland Garros up in the air anyway? Last I heard they’re struggling to figure out how to renovate RG, with difficulty getting approval from the city. I can understand why they don’t build a roof when the future of the tournament in that location is not clear. But it does highlight how far behind the other majors the FO really is.


AndyMira Says:

Hey VP..miss you so much..bout Rafa..yeah..it is what it is..we can’t change it..it is fate..as for novak,if it’s meant for him to hold the trophy,then he will..next week..and i still remember you promise to get married if novak win this year..so i expect for your card to appear in my mailbox..


jane Says:

you don’t need an apostrophe on sickos, giles.

pauly, that “young pimply faced kid” beat rafa on clay this year, no? he also won 2 clay titles in 2016. finally, he’s 22 so he’s not *that* young, not as young as coric, zverev, or kyrgios, for example.


Baa Says:

Of course, the ‘luckiest, most overrated and ugly rotten player’,
Novak, got bad scheduling on his worst surface
when he got ill & couldn’t play to his potential while Nadal enjoyed practicing
on clay all day and playing his doormat Fed.
Why ridicule Novak GOAT for winning on fairer surfaces,
Not a suffocating, biased tournament & playground for Nadal on mud courts?
Nadal had a weak and heavy body.
His mind and body couldn’t face Novak at the Slams.
He was very lucky in 2012-2014 French opens because novak
was at his weakest.
Nadal took time off from tennis because it protected his record vs. Novak.
He was completely drained in 2012-14;
he escaped 5 setters in U.S. open & French Open.
Obviously, the usual people say Wawrinka is novak’s
ageless power nemesis,
but the Davis Cup-skipping Fed and vacation-taking Nadal are very old and helpless.


AndyMira Says:

Hey Pauly..i agree with you..to think back..it’s a good thing Rafa was out already..we all know that this wet weather not suited him and his game at all..but truth to be told.. like you i’m very upset that he’s out through injury[as usual,nothing new is there]but unconciously we all knew that he’s due to injury at any moment now..he rarely can finish the year without injury all this time..he is lucky last year because he’s not played at high level for the reason that we’re already know but this year..he’s due to it..

I also agree with you that if Andy can get through to the final stage,he definitely can challenge novak..whoever wins..they certainly deserve it..


Giles Says:

https://twitter.com/yinnooy/status/736992900844818432
Rafael Nadal won French Open the first time he played there.
Soooo clever!


Giles Says:

Oh no, did I make a punctuation mark error? My apologies!
😉😳


Daniel Says:

Hipe they at least schedule the back to back matches for tomorrow and Wednesday Quarters, so the one from the top half (Djoko) gets a day rest before semis and finals. This if weather permits, anymore bad day and he may need to play another back to back, in semis or finals.


jane Says:

no worries, giles.

daniel, i wonder if the FO would consider a monday final, like the us open has often done? it would be more fair, methinks.


AndyMira Says:

Hey Sisay..don’t you worry now..Rafa was out already and according to my source..the Extraterrestial was feeling very sad and quite moody for the next week or so,and they leave a message to Novak,Andy or Wawa..”Hey guys,if you want the trophy..go on get it..i’m out of here..God knows i need a therapy myself!”..


Tom Says:

What a joke the French are. They Refuse to join the 21st Century by not investing in a roof or lights. I’m surprised they even cover the clay since they want to be purists (joke of a surface anyway). And who cares that the Final will be on Tuesdauy? Ruin the product for the sanctity of the schedule. Makes sense to me. That’s the price you pay for not modernizing…


Daniel Says:

Jane,

Tomorrow is also forecast to rain all day varying from 75 to 30% chance of rain. Today and tomorrow are the worst days so far. Let’s see how things will go tomorrow but a monday final is looking possible.

I hope so, because I have a double baptism in family to go Sunday morning with a barbecue later on, meaning no live watching final at all.


anki Says:

If tomorrow is also a total washout like today, it will only be fair to play the final on Monday.


Giles Says:

Geez! Baa baa black sheep still bleating?


SG1 Says:

RG probably afraid to start a roof project. 1 month before the FO, all the unionized construction workers on the project will go on strike to blackmail the government for more money. Don’t laugh. Happened in ’76 in Montreal.


SG1 Says:

I have a friend who lived in France for over 5 years. Labor strikes are common place…airports…public transit…construction etc.


lakie Says:

Jane, not true that Djokovic always gets the worst schedules. At USO 2011, he had plenty of rest days but the bottom half Murray and Nadal played back to back 5 setters – 4th round, qf and sf thu, fri. sat


Humble Rafa Says:

Dear Tennis God,

Thank you. Thank you for the full day of rain in my honor. Though I am not a very pompous person, I cannot appreciate the kind send off for a Humble champion.


Dave Says:

If Djokovic gets through in straight sets tomorrow, this won’t be an issue. I feel for Berdych and Ferrer though. A very evenly matched pair. If that match goes 4 or 5 sets and then they have to play Nole the next day, they will be pretty fatigued for that match. No doubt about it. I just don’t see either player winning in straight sets. The only thing for Djokovic will be the win factor. 20 mile an hour winds won’t be easy to adapt to. I hope he adapts well to them.


RZ Says:

Standings update: Aileen (Margot’s pal) is still in first place. Colin and I are tied for second and have closed the lead to only 2 points!


Travis Bickle Says:

Even though I find most of the CF1’s posts reasonable and insigtful, I am here to refute his last post on another thread about Federer collecting his slam titles during a weak era and Djoker collecting his in a strong era. Well, dear CF1, numbers do not lie and here they are – first 10 slam wins for both Federer and Djoker:

Roger got his first 10 slams against fierce competition:
1. Wimb 2002: Philippoussis (unseeded, but grass-court powerhouse)
2. AO 2004: Safin (unseeded then, but one of the all-time greats)
3. Wimb 2004: Roddick (career 1 slam and 5 masters titles)
4. USO 2004: Hewitt (career 2 slams and 2 masters titles)
5. Wimb 2005: Roddick (deserved Hall of Famer, IMO)
6. USO 2005: Agassi (with 35.5 age, was at his experience peak!)
7. AO 2006: Baghdatis (unseeded, but really strong competitor). As a bonus here, Roger’s road to final was the grueling one – before Baghdatis, he had to go through 21st seed Kiefer in semis!!!
8. Wimb 2006: Nadal (teenager sure, but great grass-court player)
9. USO 2006: Roddick (see # 5 above – was seeded 9, no slouch)
10. AO 2007: Gonzales (10th seed, likely future HoF candidate)

OK, now we are entering the weakest era of tennis (post 2007) when Nadal, Djoker and Murray stopped being teenagers and started challenging Roger – all-time greats like Baghdatis, Philippoussis, Roddick, Hewitt, Gonzales, Kiefer, experienced Agassi started fading into background.

Djoker and his d(JOKE)r competition for his first 10 slams:
1. AO 2008: Tsonga (unseeded nobody; in addition in semis Djoker had a cakewalk against mononucleosis-stricken ill Federer in straights)
2. AO 2011: Murray (seeded 5th, but we all know he’s a weak player)
2. Wimb 2011: Nadal (1st seed, but c’mon weak opponent)
3. USO 2011: Nadal (see above – also had to go through weak player Federer in semis – weak weak weak era!)
4. AO 2012: Nadal (see above, this is truly a weak era…)
5. A0 2013: Murray (see above – no match for Baggy or Gonzales!)
6. Wimb 2014: Federer (seeded 4th, but super old at 32)
7. AO 2015: Murray (see above)
8. Wimb 2015: Federer (the guy is not grass-court specialist…)
9. USO 2015: Federer (Federer missed many BPs because he was bothered by unfair and too loud audience at Ashe stadium)
10. AO 2016: Murray (see above – the guy has only 2 slams and 12 masters titles – pretty weak opponent)

So, clearly CF1 is wrong in his constant claim that Federer was collecting his slams in weak era and that the truly weak tennis era begun around 2008 with Djoker winning and weaklings Nadal, Federer and Murray around to challenge him. As usual, Federer fans were right on this one – by the way the most knowledgeable and polite fan base and definitely not cult-like or religious-experience like…

Also, my posts are still being moderated by Tennis X, it appears so unfortunately I cannot participate in live discussions on this site since it takes a while for my posts to appear and meanwhile many non-moderated posts are published so nobody sees my contribution unless you scroll way way up. Hopefully, some of nice posters will be able to read this rebuttal of CF1 outrageous claim.

I also notice that Giles and Lakie are moderated as well, and again state my opposition to that – let folks speak freely on a tennis forum!

Also it is a bit strange Lakie is being moderated and Jalep is not, considering it is the same poster. And I agree, with Jalep’s claim in response to Mat4’s doubts that he/she is Novak Djokovic fan – I would say one of the biggest!


skeezer Says:

“Also it is a bit strange Lakie is being moderated and Jalep is not, considering it is the same poster.”
No it is not the same poster. this was already refuted and proven otherwise. It’s no surprise by that statement alone why your still moderated.


Cristina Says:

Giles, you have my contempt.
Do you follow me on twitter, or are you so aggravated that Novak has fans, fact that your cult refuses to acknowledge?


Jun Says:

At last! Somebody put CF1 in his place. Thanks, TB. Much appreciated.

Hope your post ‘bullies’ CF1 into oblivion. We don’t want that cult-builder spewing his nasty sermons that have no basis at all.


Wog Boy Says:

I am all against selective moderation, since that’s allowing crybabies to go after moderated posters without giving chance to moderated ones for fair response to those crybabies. That’s unfair advantage, you either ban the posters you don’t like or give them equal opportunity to retort to those who are using moderation to their advantage. Typical for weak and insecure people, to go after the ones that can respond timely,
I’ll start petition for Giles, lakie and TB not to be moderated. Equal opportunity please.


chrisford1 Says:

Travis, I stand humbled by your schooling. I confess to being far less appreciative of the rogue’s list of fearsome competitors that Fed faced. Each foe bravely faced and beaten by Fed 2003-2007 would have of course destroyed me in my university playing days. Not to mention how Fed took over from the Great Leyton Hewitt who had 75 weeks before that as #1 in the Era of Giants of the Game, as Fed fans think of those times.

And for your insight on how Humble and Andy lacked the force of will that a Phillipoussis had – and often crumbled in the face of the puny genius-less non ballerina-like non-religious experience Djokovic.

I have already asked Fed fans like cat-scratch Skeezer to forgive me for not placing emphasis on Fed’s All Time Greatness. It is a misunderstanding. Fed was always an All Time Great. I was just saying that it appeared to me that he was a Panzer Tank Battalion up against a battalion of horse mounted Polish Hussars, by way of comparison, from 2003-2007. And he thus padded his combat record accordingly, as a big fish in a small pond would.


skeezer Says:

“am all against selective moderation..”
Sure! You belong to the Church of Novak, no other player is worthy, why comment other than comment on the great Church of Novak?
Thank goodness for sane mods here..


kjb Says:

@Travis Bickle

The real weak era started in mid 2012. Grandpa Fed regained #1 and has been in the top 3 consistently since. Nole has won 3 of his last 4 slam finals against a player that is 10 years past his prime. Fed has played 12 matches this year and he is still #13 in the race to London. Hahahaha. Such a strong era we are in.


Wog Boy Says:

Crybaby, you forgot to put “out”, you time is up, your use by date expired.

Talking about cults, when you have owner of blog who is suppose to be about tennis declare this:

“So another Fed-less 3 weeks on the blog to look forward to 🙁 anyone got any cool post ideas? I have some free time as I regret to inform you that it’s unlikely I will be watching much of Roland Garros 😆”

https://www.perfect-tennis.com/federer-withdraws-french-open/
Those cult members don’t follow tennis, they follow their god, if he asks them to drink poison they will happily obliged, I am worried about his worshipers when he declares retirement, warning to those living in the big cities, stay away from buildings, human falling predicted on the day of official “god” retirement.

Now you can all go back on “tennis” blog “peRFect tennis” and cry and hug each other waiting for “D” day..


Dave Says:

The biased continues. 35.5 year old Agassi and your calling Federer at around 30 when he won wimbledon on the least taxing playing style in the history of tennis so much past his prime. Guys aren’t even losing speed anymore well into their 30’s. See Justin Gatlin at 34 who just posted the fastest time in the 100 meters this year so far at 9.88 seconds.


skeezer Says:

Wog boy,
Keep up rhe name calling and get yourself moderated(read guidelines).
And stop with the insecure jealous tactics, your lower than that.


Dave Says:

Calling Federer Grandpa at 30 years old winning wimbledon. That’s too funny when he has the least taxing style of anyone. It’s easier to explain why he has only won 2 majors in the last 6 years. If Djokovic wins majors at 30 and 31 and 32, what will people say? his prime was later. Weak era. So a guy with a more taxing style than Federer winning more majors in his 30’s than Federer himself, what will be said than? Always something to back Federer’s downfall. And also, Tsonga was absolutely on fire in that 2008 Australian Open. He absolutely destroyed an in his prime Nadal in the semi-finals and there was nothing Nadal could do about it.


Wog Boy Says:

Came on crybaby, are going back to teacher, you little dobber.


James Says:

Safin, Roddick, Hewitt – all reached No. 1, won slams, multiple finals. Murray hasn’t spent one week at No. 1.

Safin at his peak was a stronger opponent than Murray. Roddick on grass was stronger than anyone today on grass. Hewitt on hard courts was tough (remember how he mauled Sampras at the USO?).

PLUS – none of them gave the age advantage to Fed.

In all fairness, Nadal has had tough competition, very tough competition all his life. But not Djokovic. He is 6 years younger than Fed. Murray is same age, Nadal one year older. Even now at 29, there isn’t ONE strong young player in sight who has won a single slam. So Djokovic continues to roll.

Age is extremely important – even in golf or chess, and this is tennis, super physical. The moment a strong young player shows up, even legends start to wilt at 26/27/28 years of age. Happened to EVERY legend. EXCEPT to djokovic, since there is no strong young player in sight.

Weak era is really the last couple of years. That’s why we can have so many seniors in the top 10.


Wog Boy Says:

Dave thing I like about Rafa is facial expression during press conferences and interviews, he looks and sounds spontaneous for the difference of the other one. I wish I can speak Spanish so I can follow him in his native language. I remember vividly his presso after he lost to Tsonga at AO, when he was asked “what happened Rafa”, he just looke at them with his kids face and said something “I don’t have a clue, Tsonga just blew me off the court.”
I loved his honest answer for the difference of “lucky shot” or “slapping the ball” answer or “I lave playing Novak since the match is always on my racquet”..


kjb Says:

@Dave

All I am trying to get across to you Noletards is that by trying to tear down Feds acheivements all you are doing is diminishing Novaks. If the only reason Fed has so many slams is because he was beating weak era players , how does it look for Novak, when 3 out of the last 4 slam finals he won was against a player who was over 33 years old, is 10 years past his ultimate prime, and according to most on this blog, only won all those majors because he played in a weak era. Are you guys blind? What makes the current state of tennis any stronger than 2003-2007? Please fill me in, as I would like to know. How a player about to turn 35 is still in the top 4? Who has been to 3 out of the last 6 slam finals? What strong era are you guys talking about. I would really like to know what makes Berydch, Ferrer, Tsonga, Gasquet better than Safin, Davydenko, Nalbandian, Gonzalez, Roddick, because it is definetely not titles.


Wog Boy Says:

I still remember 2004 USO final, when all time great, mighty Hewitt bravely fought Federer in the epic match that finished 6:0, 7:6, 6:0 Federer finaly prevailing, memorable match from the strongest era ever..


kjb Says:

@James

Exactly


kjb Says:

@Dave

“And also, Tsonga was absolutely on fire in that 2008 Australian Open. He absolutely destroyed an in his prime Nadal in the semi-finals and there was nothing Nadal could do about it.”

What are you talking about? Nadal hadn’t even made it to a hardcourt slam final yet. I wouldn’t really call it “in his prime Nadal”


Dave Says:

I agree WogBoy. I have always appreciated that about Rafa as well. He is brutally honest. I actually can’t comment about the weak era thing anymore. To many biased opinions. So I won’t bother with it anymore. I do agree with Skeezer on at least one thing and many others have this same opinion. The only way to judge it is by shear numbers. The numbers are what do the talking in the end and are the only thing to go by. So honestly, who cares about this weak era stuff anymore. I don’t care if Rogers era was weaker than Nole’s or vise versa. This is getting to be so repetative. It’s like we all seem to have O.C.D. with this topic. Churning in our brains, over and over and over again. We aren’t going to agree on this. It’s getting silly at this point. Only the numbers can level everything out and that’s it. There is no other way to debate it. You can only beat who is in front of you. And that goes for Roger, Rafa, Andy and Novak. If Nadal wasn’t injury prone, if Nole knew about his gluten intolerance and breathing issues earlier. If Federer didn’t have mono. etc. etc. The point is, all of this stuff happened the way it happened. So the what if’s don’t matter. The numbers are the only thing people ever talk about on t.v.


Dave Says:

Tsonga played lights out. Go re-watch the match. Amazing tennis from him. If you watch matches with a biased opinion of players, instead of just watching the match for the sake of seeing great tennis, your always going to have these opinions. Guys, read my post above. I’m totally done with this topic. No more trying to fit a circle into a square anymore. Let’s change the topic. I’m begging you.


Dave Says:

Just to get to your other comment. So you decide that Nadal wasn’t in his prime in 2008? So he is only in his prime when you say he is. So I guess in 2009 when he beat Federer to win the Australian Open, than he is in his prime. But not before. Again, I can’t get into biased opinions.


Wog Boy Says:

Dave,

No more weak era comments, I tend to agree with Fedtards (just returning favor to kjb), 2003-2007 is definitely stronger era then Nole’s first ten GS.. trivia, you know how strong it was when Roger didn’t have one single five set GS final winning his first ten GS. First five set final was with Rafa’s arrival in 2007 Wimbledon final, and last win agains Rafa in GS cometition.
Another trivia, do you know that best HC player ever, according to his fans, is 2:8 on outdoor HC matches agains best CC player ever, according to everybody, something doesn’t add up..


Wog Boy Says:

Dave,

No more weak era comments, I tend to agree with Fed7ards (just returning favor to kjb), 2003-2007 is definitely stronger era then Nole’s first ten GS.. trivia, you know how strong it was when Roger didn’t have one single five set GS final winning his first ten GS. First five set final was with Rafa’s arrival in 2007 Wimbledon final, and last win agains Rafa in GS cometition.
Another trivia, do you know that best HC player ever, according to his fans, is 2:8 on outdoor HC matches agains best CC player ever, according to everybody, something doesn’t add up..


Wog Boy Says:

One more trivia, my previous post was moderated becaouse I returned favor to kjb with “, “Fed7ards”, so I had to put “7” instead of “t”, but his post calling people “Noletards” wasn’t moderated!
Helloooo..double standards, who is moderator, crybaby?


kjb Says:

@Wogboy

Well I guess its a good time to be a Novak fan then, as Fed has been his only real consistent competetion in the last 4 years. Must be nice to be on top in the weakest of all weak eras.

and as an added bonus, next month Fed will be closer to 40 than 30 so Novak will probably be gauranteed to at least another couple easy slam finals against him in the next few years. Cuz there is no one else out there who has a hope.


Wog Boy Says:

kjb,
I dont have a problem with that, I always said that it is Nole’s turn to have his next 10 slams against oponents same quolity as Roger’s firs ten slams, so let’s start with Ramos Vinolas in the final of FO. At the end life always even the things out…if you live long enough..


kjb Says:

@wogboy

Fair enough, but hes already cashed in 5 out of those 10.


James Says:

Dave, a 34 year old managing to be on top for 9.88 seconds is very different from being on top for 3 hours. Comparing 100m sprint to best of 5 tennis match is ridiculous – they are two completely different activities.


skeezer Says:

“previous post was moderated..”
Thats what happens to wannabe bullies


Dave Says:

James,

I’m done talking about this. Focus on the tennis James. The tennis. Don’t have biased opinions leading up to matches. Federer never shows he is tired. He didn’t in either Wimbledon or the U.S. Open. He was playing at one of the highest levels that I have ever seen him play in the first 6 rounds of both tournaments. In his prime or not. He looked faster than ever. Federer himself says he wasn’t tired. But because he lost to Djokovic, he is an old grandpa and can barely play tennis anymore. All the announcers say otherwise. Again, I can’t debate with anyone about this anymore. I guess Federer is one big liar and lies about how he feels when he is tired and when he is moving so well on the court, he actually isn’t moving well and is completely exhausted, even though he was the one playing the better tennis the last 3 games of the match of the U.S. Open, and almost tied it at 5 games all. But because he didn’t, he is the oldest grandpa ever.


Wog Boy Says:

Not quite crybaby, it got true after swapping letter, but it looks like the member of your cult are allowed to insult other fans. Now go back to your “tennis” blog, it is prayer time, they are waiting for you, you know how nasty they can be in those cults towards insecure little dobbers, all sort of punishments, though you might enjoy some of the..love you😻


Wog Boy Says:

kjb,

He might have bonus extra one.


chrisford1 Says:

“Safin, Roddick, Hewitt – all reached No. 1, won slams, multiple finals. Murray hasn’t spent one week at No. 1.”

There are 3 reasons Andy has not spent a day at #1.

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Djokovic

James – “Safin at his peak was a stronger opponent than Murray.”

Beg to differ, as do most that grasp Andy’s talent and speed and defense. He would have driven Marat nuts. Even more nuts than Marat already was.

James: “Roddick on grass was stronger than anyone today on grass”.

Well, lets just leave it at Andy. Andy is 4-0 against Roddick on grass. First time at Wimbledon in 2006, then 2 Queens and another Wimbledon. Not even close. Had a 8-3 overall against Roddick.
As you likely know, Roddick never won Wimbledon. That is not the case of several other players today.


kjb Says:

@dave

If you honestly can say Fed is faster than ever then there is no way you were watching tennis pre-2008.


Dave Says:

After the Australian Open. Federer says: your the ones saying that I’m old. I can go 3,4 hours no problem. So Federer is a liar again right? James lets just stop now. No more. I have no successfully replied to things I commented about above. I don’t care what age any player is in any match. 34 or 24, if he is playing amazing and looks great, I don’t care if his name is Roger Federer or John Smith. I will acknowledge that he played a very high quality tournament. It’s all about the Tennis. The Tennis. The Tennis. Every time you guys go off about Federer being out of his prime the last 6 years, your only putting down all of the high quality tennis he has produced. That’s up to you to do that. But I refuse to do that. I won’t be making excuses for Nole when he is in his 30’s. I can absolutely assure you of that. And just like Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic wouldn’t want you to make excuses for him in his 30’s either. So lets stop making excuses for everyone. I’m done. That’s it for this topic. NO more from me. I enjoy talking with all of you. I do and I have respect for you. I just don’t have anything left for this topic again on this forum and from here on out, won’t respond to these post when this topic comes up. No more weak era talk from me.


chrisford1 Says:

Cat Scratch Skeezer – PLease refrain from your constant threats of running to the moderator when someone name-calls you in response to one of your patented, insulting passive aggressive attacks.
You’re using that ploy of calling Djokovic fans by all sorts of names – insecure, worshippers at the church of Novak (insulting as anything to the more religious fans of his), insecure, less intelligent than a Fed fan, etc., etc. Then act like you have been horribly savaged when someone rebuts you with the same sort of insults you sent their way.

Example your 8:04PM post – “Wog boy,
keep up rhe name calling and get yourself moderated(read guidelines).And stop with the insecure jealous tactics, your lower than that.”

So the insecure, jealous, low level Wog Boy best stop calling you names after civil posts like the above one you made on this thread????
Perchance, Cat Scratch, are you truly oblivious to your own name calling??


skeezer Says:

WARRIORS!🏀


kjb Says:

@skeezer

Man, I really thought OKC was going to sneak it out after they went up 3-1. Who’s your pick for the finals?


skeezer Says:

Warriors of course ;)
OKC was the better team most of the series. But never question the heart of a champion.
Commies to OK.


skeezer Says:

CF1,
Insecure is a name? Better re check your englsh. Crybaby, dopper, etc are.


Okiegal Says:

@Skeezer…….Thanks, for the condolences……but the best team won. I knew we were history when we couldn’t win it on our home court……. that sealed the deal. I went over to a friend’s house and watched…..sad nite in Okieville!! Golden State’s 3 point prowess is OTT….nothing more to add……except CONGRATS Skeezer!!


Tennisfansince1976 Says:

@chrisford1 you are forgetting 2009 Wimbledon. Roddick defeated Murray in four sets in the semifinals to reach the final against federation.


Wog Boy Says:

“against federation” …sounds like “Star Wars”… intergalactic federation against who..?


sisay Says:

TB @ 4:50

Please send me whatever you were smoking…


Van Persie Says:

I am also against moderation for TB, Giles and Lakie. Everybody is entitled to have an opinion.
P.S. Giles posts are very funny. He reminds me on Cartman from South Park :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g37HT4-EtzE


Klaas Says:

This whole weak era argument is so disrespectful.

For anybody watching tennis in Federers top years, it was quite clear, that he took tennis to a new level. That was why he was so dominant from 2003-2007. Apart from Nadal on clay, only a few players ever caught up, notably Djokovic, Nadal, Murray and Wawrinka, and only in their prime. For Djokovic and Nadal to become all time greats, there had to be a Federer to aspire to.

Let us leave it at that, shall we.


danica Says:

Skeez, @11.26
Yup! My neighbors ;).


Honfleuraise Says:

In their early years Rafa, Djokovic and Murray developed their games by finding solutions to beat Federer.
So in that respect, he was responsible for raising their level.

Today’s YoungGen players are doing the same thing,


danica Says:

That’s what Novak constantly stress out. He says that both Roger and Rafa made him the player he is today.


mat4 Says:

The other day, joking with Skeezer, I had a revelation and wrote a truth coming from the mouth of the Great Goddess:

Weak eras are for losers. Those who win… they don’t care.

Although we should stop already with his topic, since it just serves to create disputes, there is a relevant tool to measure the level of certain eras: it’s called rating. And if you go on Jeff Sackmann site (tennisabstract) you clearly see: that the weak era was probably the second part of the nineties, and that Federer and Djokovic have achieved the highest level od domination over the field that ever was.

So. Either there are the greatest, either they played in the weakest eras. But rating offers continuity, and to achieve a very high rating, you have to play strong opponents. You can’t have a high rating playing against a depleted field.

Finally: today, when technology doesn’t change so much, players can play longer, just like in the sixties. So, there is an average of luck/bad luck. So 17 it is. And it is well deserved.


mat4 Says:

I like many of the posters here. I really don’t enjoy those repeated disputes among people I like. The “weak era” is not an argument any more, it’s just a way to create troubles.


Dave Says:

I totally agree. It’s a way of disrespecting Federer and Djokovic, instead of appreciating what they have done and are still doing today. I hope it’s never talked about again on this forum. Like you Mat4, I enjoy many peoples comments on this forum as well. Nice post. Thanks for that.


mat4 Says:

Lately, there has been a lot of attacks on Nolefans on this forum and many of us are nervous. New posters have appeared just for the sake of insulting a few of old, regular fans of Novak on this site.

Those posters were well aware of who we were, what we had written years ago, and they managed to create a lot of dissension in less than a month. It was easy to know that they were old posters with a new moniker.

Don’t fall in their trap.


mat4 Says:

@Dave:

It’s also a way of disrespecting ALL the players. When I watch boys playing futures, I am in awe. They are so good. 5% from the top 50, and these 5% usually is tennis non-related stuff. Most of the time, they just don’t have enough money.


Van Persie Says:

Wow. Matches have started :)
Nole idemooo!

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