Indoor War: Federer v Nadal Highlight ATP SFs, Djokovic The Favorite; Picks And Pans
by Sean Randall | November 9th, 2013, 6:31 pm
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Roger Federer vanquished Juan Martin Del Potro for the second time in three weeks 4-6, 7-6(2), 7-5 to set up another collision with his rival, friend and fellow-GOAT Rafael Nadal. It’s round 32 for the two as Rafa seeks his first career indoor win against Roger. But we almost didn’t get the match.

Federer needed all he could muster to deny Del Potro on the last day of round robin play. The Argentine, who appeared a little gassed near the end, led by a break in the final two sets but was unable to close either one out, allowing a motivated and focused Federer to score his second Top 10 win of the week and clinch an 11th semifinal at the event.

“I was probably slightly angry more than thinking it’s going to be over soon,” said Federer who was down 3-0 in the final set and looked agitated at times in the final set. “It’s one of those moments today, because I kind of fought back the whole match – the first, second set. Here we go again.

“Once on even terms, I was able to play a little bit more freely.”

Watching the match, it was one Del Potro should have won – he was the better player for most of the day, but on critical points that’s where Roger was sharp. And going forward for 2014, that’s a real good sign for Federer fans.

“I think I got two chances to win the match,” said Del Potro. “I broke his serve in the second set and in the third one. But he played great when I was up, and he deserved to come back in both sets. But at the end, when you have to be focus and find the winners, I made the mistakes and he was there really focused to take the chance. I think that was the key of the match.”

The 2.5 hour win by Roger sets up the big showdown with Nadal who, apart from a No. 1 ceremony, enjoyed a full day of rest.

The final round robin match proved a meaningless one. With Novak Djokovic already slotted as the top seed from Group B and Richard Gasquet eliminated, at stake were just points, prize and a streak. In the end the Serb fended off Gasquet in three ho-hum sets.

So the semifinals at the last stop on the 2013 ATP season are set, and no one is complaining.

Roger Federer v. Rafael Nadal
We know the history (21-10 in favor of Nadal) and we are well versed in the matchup particulars (the Nadal forehand to the Federer backhand; Federer needs to serve well, minimize errors and be agressive), so what will we see Sunday? I think we’ll get a close, competitive match, one that Federer, despite his age and despite having lost all three to Nadal this year, will be right in.

“I just have to have the right mindset to give it one last go, maybe play with a little less pressure than I have in previous matches with him,” Federer said. “I just feel like I need to look at it more as being an underdog a little bit because of circumstances, because of my year, because of his year. Maybe that free swinging is what I kind of need to do a little bit more tomorrow.”

Of the two Nadal’s been the clear-cut better player, and he is the better player. But because this is indoors, I give Roger a real chance here.

In fact, the last time the two played indoors Federer blitzed Nadal 6-3, 6-0 two years ago in the London round robin. And overall indoors Federer leads Rafa 4-0 with all four matches at this event (Roger’s won eight of nine sets). But I think that changes tomorrow.

Federer’s played a lot of tennis and at age 32 I think it catches up to him a little tomorrow against the fresher Nadal. Remember Rafa withdrew from Basel and took it easy in Paris just to be fit for this weekend, and that strategy should pay off at least tomorrow.

“The only way to win the match of semifinals is playing my best match, playing fantastic tennis,” Nadal said Friday, before he knew he’d play Fedeer. “That’s what I gonna try.”

And try he will. He’s never won this ATP Finals title, the only missing big trophy from his resume and he’s never beaten Roger indoors (0-4), and I think that motivation is too great to ignore. Then again, there’s a reason he hasn’t won it – he doesn’t play his best at the end of the year, indoors.

Watching this week, however, this court appears to be one the slowest we’ve seen at the event, so that’s another big plus for Rafa.

Meanwhile, Federer is playing the best tennis of his season right now. His confidence has to be sky high after converting over Del Potro and playing Djokovic tough earlier in the week. Yet today, he did get a little lucky with Del Potro failing to consolidate those two leads. That won’t happen with Rafa.

Still, Federer will keep this on edge, using his serve and the crowd I expect he’ll give Rafa a real test. After all, for one of these two GOATs, their 2013 season will end tomorrow.
The Pick: Nadal in three

Novak Djokovic v Stan Wawrinka
What a debut for Stan. He beat Tomas Berdych on Monday, played Rafa tough on Wednesday then scratched out a win yesterday over David Ferrer. So he’s got to be feeling good about where his game is at right now. Unfortunately next up is the best player in tennis, Novak Djokovic.

Much like he has this season, Novak’s been a little up-and-down this week. But bottom line is he keeps on winning, ballooning his streak to 20 straight since the US Open after a lax win today.

Head-to-head in this one it’s been all Novak. He leads 14-2 having won 13 straight including two five setters this year and a comprehensive win last week in Paris where the Serb played a scary-good first set.

“I lost against him quite easy last week in Paris. He was playing really good. To be honest, I don’t want to think too much about that,” Stan said yesterday.

I expect a tighter match this time around but I think this close to finish Novak runs it to 14 over the other Swiss.
The pick: Djokovic in two

If things go to form we’ll fittingly end the year with Djokovic-Nadal. Could we see an all-Swiss final? Absolutely. But it’s a longshot. Based on their history and indoor climate, Federer could certainly beat Nadal, and Djokovic might have a letdown against the free-swinging, confident Wawrinka. So neither match is a 100% certainty or anywhere close to it. But I’d be very surprised if Djokovic lost.

ESPN2 has live coverage of both semifinals at 9am ET with Federer-Nadal and Djokovic at 3pm.

SUNDAY ATP FINALS SCHEDULE
DOUBLES / 12:00 PM
I DODIG/M MELO VS D MARRERO/F VERDASCO
SINGLES / 02:00 PM
NADAL VS FEDERER

EVENING SESSION
DOUBLES / 06:00 PM
A PEYA/B SOARES VS B BRYAN/M BRYAN
SINGLES / 08:00 PM
DJOKOVIC VS WAWRINKA


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174 Comments for Indoor War: Federer v Nadal Highlight ATP SFs, Djokovic The Favorite; Picks And Pans

Jackson ville Says:

“Of the two Nadal’s been the clear-cut better player, and he is the better player. ”
You can’t just say Nadal is a “better player”. Where is the objectiveness ?


Skeezer Says:

good picks and write Sean, should be the way it goes ….


Anna Says:

Whata ya know. I actually agree with Skeezer. Nice write-up Sean, from beginning to end.


Michael Says:

It is sometime when we saw a fighting Roger on Court there today with Del Potro. Even when he was two breaks down in the first set,he refused to give up and almost came close to even terms. But the gap was just too many and he lost. Again in the second and third sets, it was always Roger catching up. But he was playing some vintage Tennis in important moments of the match. Particularly his back hand slice was a novelty, sharp and treat to watch. It troubled Del Potro to no ends. What was encouraging is the fact that the fire inside Roger is blazing right now. He is desperate to win and that can be seen from all his unusual yells on court. Finally, he deservingly won.


Michael Says:

It is a marquee match especially when you have Roger and Rafa facing one another. The edge is certainly with Rafa. But as Sean has rightly predicted that Roger can make a match of it just if he serves well. What should give encouragement to Roger is his blemishless record against Rafa on indoor hard courts. But, still it is going to be a dog’s fight out there. I think Roger can win if he goes with a mindset of being the underdog rather than being under pressure due to his not so good H2H with Rafa.


Rumble Says:

As if Nadal (27 years old) needed any more luck – after a really soft draw, he gets a days rest, while Fed (32 years old) plays 2.5 hours and has to play again less than 24 hours later.

If it had been the other way around in terms of rest, I might have given the old man a chance. Not right now.

Straight sets for the lucky guy.

EVERYTHING has lined up for Nadal to win the WTF this year. Unless he runs into a hot Djoke in the final. Now that’s someone younger and can last longer than even him, so he has no chance there…


madmax Says:

And try he will. He’s never won this ATP Finals title, the only missing big trophy from his resume and he’s never beaten Roger indoors (0-4), and I think that motivation is too great to ignore. Then again, there’s a reason he hasn’t won it – he doesn’t play his best at the end of the year, indoors.

Has he won Paris?


madmax Says:

They have played 31 times, and Nadal leads their head-to-head series 21–10 overall and 8–2 in Grand Slam tournaments.

Fifteen of their matches have been on clay, which is statistically Nadal’s best surface and statistically Federer’s worst surface.

Federer has a winning record on grass (2–1) and indoor hard courts (4–0) while Nadal leads the outdoor hard courts by 7–2 and clay by 13–2.

Because tournament seedings are based on rankings, 20 of their matches have been in tournament finals, including an all-time record 8 Grand Slam tournament finals.

From 2006 to 2008, they played in every French Open and Wimbledon final, and also met in the title match of the 2009 Australian Open and the 2011 French Open.

Nadal won six of the eight, losing the first two Wimbledon finals. Three of these matches were five set-matches (2007 and 2008 Wimbledon, 2009 Australian Open), and the 2008 Wimbledon final has been lauded as the greatest match ever by many long-time tennis analysts.

They have also played in a record 10 Masters Series finals.


Bad Knee Rules Says:

20th win in the streak, 10 top ten wins, pretty impressive, isn’t it?


Skeezer Says:

Nole’s 2011, way better.


roy Says:

actually this is very unfair. opponents should not have differing amounts of rest. and it could easily be decisive.

nadal had a virus in that last loss against federer at the wtf, which people conveniently forget. the final between these two is probably a better indicator of how they are matching up these days indoor.

let’s drop the speed of court crap. one player said it’s faster, one player said it’s slower. the truth is the players don’t know what they’re talking about, proven by the fact they contradict each other time and again with ”court speed”. only scientific analysis can determine this, not ”feelings”.

the truth is, in tennis circles slowness of hard court is directly proportional to how much federer is losing on it. all the courts were perfect in 2007 no doubt.


Bad Knee Rules Says:

———-
Nole’s 2011, way better.
———-

Agree, 6:0 against Nadal.


skeezer Says:

“nadal had a virus in that last loss against federer at the wtf,”
Vamosheads brigade comes up with more excuses than Unc “talk too much”. Thought they focused mainly on the “knees” excuse? Oh well, same ole same ole.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Looking at Roger’s performance throughout the year and some of his important losses, one shot I could recollect which failed him consistently on the key points was the Inside Out FH. He missed could at break points in his second round of Wimby, which could have easily turned the match in his favour. He missed it again against Novak at breakpoint in his first RR match in WTF and again against Delpo y’day. Then he stopped going for the shot in rest of the match.

I hope he realizes what mistake he is making in not successfully getting through with the shot. It’s one of the most crucial shot in Roger’s game and he needs to get it back.


hawkeye Says:

Nole’s year in 2011 was the best in all history especially because it occurred in the golden era, Rafa’s given the seven months with no competition is a close second.

Nole had three slams. Rafa has two slams and can only add a meaningless exho here. However his summer sweep of hard courts in Montreal, Cincy and USO plus IW was never done before. Not bad for a “dirt baller”. Shows how little they know about tennis.

Fedfan had the most “elegant” years from 2003-2007. So pretty to watch with no competition. And you always knew who would win until Rafa ruined the party.


Slice Tennis Says:

I agree hawkeye. No2e’s 2011 was the best ever. He won three slams and went 6-0 against the GOAT in his prime.


Slice Tennis Says:

No2e’s win loss record of 70-6 is not that great compared to Federer’s 81-4 in 2005 and 92-5 in 2006 (or even Rafa’s 74-6 this year). But in both those years Federer came up short against the GOAT who was yet to hit his prime and was just learning to play outside of clay.

No2e was definitely No1e in 2011 against great competition which is not the case with Federer.


skeezer Says:

Nole had the best year, Fed had the best years, and career. No question.
And Rafa was/is the best #2 ever.


skeezer Says:

“He won three slams and went 6-0 against the GOAT in his prime.”
Uh? WTF? No way. Fed corraled him @ FO that year.


skeezer Says:

“Shows how little they know about tennis.”

“Fedfan had the most “elegant” years from 2003-2007. So pretty to watch with no competition. And you always knew who would win until Rafa ruined the party.”

Shows how little YOU know about tennis. Rafa was playing the tour in 2001. Didn’t win a non Clay Slam till 2008. A one court wonder for years. Apparently he was in the Fed “elegant years”. Seems Fed did ok in the weak era Rafa was in, no?


Slice Tennis Says:

“Rafa was playing the tour in 2001. Didn’t win a non Clay Slam till 2008. A one court wonder for years.”

Federer turned pro in 1998. Didn’t win a slam till 2003. A no court wonder for years.


Slice Tennis Says:

“Fed had the best years, and career. No question”
No. Forgot 21-10 ?
Or 22-10 later today.


skeezer Says:

^Tennis is against a field of players, not against a player. Read the rule book. Play the game and learn what it is about Padawan.


Slice Tennis Says:

Rafa has won 83.7% of his matches against the field.
Federer has won 81.2% against the field.

Anything else ?


skeezer Says:

“Anything else ?”
Absoluetely.
Apparently you don’t understand the game. %’s doesn’t cut it. You play aganst a field to WIN a title, win a Slam.
Count again.
17.
Anythng else?


Slice Tennis Says:

But Agassi and others feel H2H is relevant. Apparently they also don’t understand the game. May be padawans.


skeezer Says:

H2H does have some relevance, but is not the determining factor. Go back and talk to your apparent buddy Agassi. Don’t forget to give Laver a call also.


Slice Tennis Says:

Laver is one of the very few who missed the bus.

Most of the other guys have become dumb rafa fanatics (Ex. Samprass, Agassi, Navaratilova, Murray, Nole, etc).


skeezer Says:

Btw don’t forget to watch the GOAT match in this years WTF, fed/delpo, it was the best for the fans by far. Thank the Game for Fed!


skeezer Says:

“Laver is one of the very few who missed the bus.”
Careful SL, that comment won’t give you credibilty with the tennis greats, present and past.
You must be a really important person.

Watching the match? Great tennis!


Slice Tennis Says:

Apparently the modern greats who are in touch with reality disagree with Laver. Hope they don’t lose their credibility.


skeezer Says:

True, they can all look to you for the truth.


Slice Tennis Says:

A very tough match coming up for Rafa in the WTF. It will be an extremely tough challenge to overcome one of GOATs playing very well in the indoor courts. To give himself an outside chance to overcome this huge challenge, he needs to first play his practice match seriously against his favourite punching bag.


Slice Tennis Says:

“True, they can all look to you for the truth”
Not me. I am nobody. There are better rafa fanatics like Sampras, Agassi, Nole, Murray, etc. Unfortunately for you guys, the list is growing everyday.


skeezer Says:

My punching bag. 17 Slams.
Me, not so much. WTF?
Will try to study harder how the game works. You mean I have to beat many other players? Dang, why is that? Ok, I will try harder.


Slice Tennis Says:

Rafa is really privileged to have someone with 17 slams as his partner for today.

Try harder. That’s a good way to start.


Slice Tennis Says:

*practise partner


skeezer Says:

Am sure Fed will help Rafa win his 1rst WTF, Fed has won enough(6) and will be happy to gift his “partner” something he has never accomplished. Giving is always better tha receiving. After all Rafa is desperate for this glorified exho.


Slice Tennis Says:

I agree with you completely. Federer is very generous and friendly to Rafa in his career. He has given 21 gifts already. Federer is a harmless little punching bag.


skeezer Says:

Agree with you completely Rafa needs gifts to win. Vamos.


Jo Says:

This is the first time that we will see Rafa doing great here. The last times he was beaten lopsidedly like a junior player by Federer. This is Federer’s house. He has 6 titles here. And there’s Novak also. The last yr champ.


Slice Tennis Says:

Yes very true. He has won 8 of 13 slams only because he had his lucky and friendly punching bag to beat.


I Love Tennis Says:

A very nice write up indeed, but in the end will be wasted because of lots and lots of nonsense, and back and forth bickering … wish people will grow up and fast.

For sure will be a great match between Federer and Nadal, may the best man win.


Giles Says:

Vamos Rafa!
#WorldNo#1
#StayHealthy
Good luck Champ!


Giles Says:

I see skeezer has been extraordinarily vocal since Fed’s win yesterday spewing nonsense as usual. Nothing surprising. During the match yesterday he referred to his idol as “pathetic”
“Fed looking pretty pathetic in the 1st set. His shots are falling short and not penetrating. Delpo is in charge ATM”.
I don’t think you will hear any Rafan refer to Rafa as “pathetic”.
What the heck skeezer?
Vamos Rafa!


John Says:

The only Weak Era, is the weak Era of posting.

Never before has TX been over-run with so many Rafafanatic posters who talk so much baloney. One doesn’t even have to to read anymore.

Seriously, where are the moderators? Hasn’t this Hawk-slice show gone on long enough. When posters devalue the quality of reading here, such as these two have.

You don’t even have to mention Nadal to prove Fed is GOAT.

It seems like they always have to bring up Fed and try downplay his achievements. Shows how pathetic there attempts have been.

No matter. Fed is King and Fan favorite, so what a couple of Fanatics say wont change a thing.

”Oh GOD ITS KILLING ME!

I put down Fed and say Rafa is Goat everyday all-day. None will listen!”

Let the haters carry on dreaming. Do us a favor. Dream in bed, no?
Dreams should stay in bed, don’t bring your dreams here. This is not Tennis-dream.com


Giles Says:

http://alturl.com/rdpeb
Another record for Rafa.
Vamos Champ!


James Says:

Nice write up, Sean. Just don’t call Nadal a GOAT yet.

As for the FeDal match, the match will be on Nadal’s racquet. Sorry, that sounds a bit too arrogant.
What I mean to say is, Rafa will be the dominant player of the match.

Fed is 4-0 vs Nadal indoors, but the way Nadal’s played this year, it would be a disaster, from team Nadal’s point of view, if he falls to Federer today. I expect Nadal to come out playing aggressively and try to take control of the match right from the start.

Federer, unlike, however will be keen to prove himself again and will try to play freely without any pressure. We’ll get to see some Federer magic show…however, it won’t be enough to stop the Spaniard from advancing to the finals.

Nadal in 3, something like 7-5, 3-6, 6-2


James Says:

*Federer, however, will be keen to prove himself again.


courbon Says:

I look forward seeing two great’s of modern tennis clashing again.I hope is competitive match and Fed pushes Rafa to the limit ( still Rafa is most likely winner ).Let the best man win.


James Says:

Djokovic vs Wawrinka:

Novak is the clear favorite in this match. However, Stan in this tournament has looked focussed and determined to prove a thing or two.

I watched his matches vs Nadal and vs Ferrer. Stan did not panic in key moments. Maybe that’s why he was so frustrated to not win a set against Nadal. If he can keep up this intensity, I think he can pull off a surprise.

Novak, however, is the better player, no doubt.

Novak in 3, something like 6-3, 5-7, 6-4

or

Novak in 2, 7-6(4), 6-3


Enrico Says:

Federer in 2 (6:4, 6:3)
Wawrinka in 3 (7:5, 5:7, 7:5)


madmax Says:

skeezer Says:
“nadal had a virus in that last loss against federer at the wtf,”
Vamosheads brigade comes up with more excuses than Unc “talk too much”. Thought they focused mainly on the “knees” excuse? Oh well, same ole same ole.

November 9th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

Stop with the excuses, if it’s not his damaged knees, its his virus, his cut finger, his bad hand. Enough Already!


Giles Says:

Hey madmax. Still stewing? Carry on. Recipe for good health and well- being!
Vamos Rafa!


Daniel Says:

Slice Tennis

Nadal’s percentage is high because he can’t llay a whole year innhis entirr career from January to November. He only olays when is conveniet and fake several breaks when he feels ge can’t win. That’s why I think he will not be goat even of his GS increase ad hxh versus Fed. He doesn’t posses any consistancy record. The guy can’t play 6 staight Grand Slams. Fed, as he himself said, doesn’t fold from competiotn and play all year long. I can bet Nadal is gonna pua Borg eventually because he seema to me tht he will not endure losing as Fed is doing this last years once hisfitness drops and he start losing to every joe and john. Let’s see how his third phase of career will look like and I hope all you rafafan still be here.
Right now we have to watch jis new ressurgence and ig he can keep this level next year adn duplicate another 2 Slam year and increase his #1 weeks to start having a go at GOSThood in Federer’s level. Which is in a class of it’s own right now. #respect


Rumble Says:

Fed vs Nadal until end of 2007 – 6-8.

Since then? 4-13.

2-13 on clay.

That pretty much sums it up. In his older years, Fed has lost more to Nadal, and, of course, has played him so often on clay, where he has lost ALL his matches in later years.

Have you forgotten Sampras being beaten to pulp by much lesser players on clay, and being beaten so often by much lesser players once he reached late 20s?

Nadal is clay GOAT. 2-13 is not surprising. He is 5 years younger, and Fed is 32 now. figure it out, you Nadal fanatics.

And then, of course, is the mysterious saga of Nadal injuries, and time off the tour to get “refreshed”. Choke on that banana.


Rumble Says:

Now losing 7 finals IN A ROW, including 3 slam finals and 2 masters finals ON CLAY, to a player just one year younger – that’s humiliating, and nothing ELSE can explain that.

I am sure you all know what I am talking about – Djoke beating the pulp out of Nadal in 2011.

Oh ya, lets hear the injury talk now….


Giles Says:

@Bumble should show more respect towards the World No. 1.
No class !!!
Another ole man fanatic. You types are quite amusing at times!
Vamos Rafa!


Giles Says:

2011 is in the past, 2013 Ace year for Rafa and pinching the Number One spot puts the icing on the cake!
Vamos #1


NK Says:

Can’t they leave the indoor courts well enough alone? Once again, the court is slower and less bouncy — as if Rafa needs any more advantage than a soft draw and an extra day’s rest.


ID Fan Says:

Hippy Chic,Giles : Are you ready for semi finals . Here is our preview for any one who is interested :
http://sportzcosmos.com/2013/11/10/el-mago-vs-el-toro/
who are you guys picking for the win


madmax Says:

Rumble Says:
Fed vs Nadal until end of 2007 – 6-8.

Since then? 4-13.

2-13 on clay.

That pretty much sums it up. In his older years, Fed has lost more to Nadal, and, of course, has played him so often on clay, where he has lost ALL his matches in later years.

Not so, Fed won final, clay Madrid 2009. Remember?

Doesn’t matter anymore, you continue to degrade (to yourself and other haters), feds achievements. Carry on. You clearly have Fed on tthe brain, more than you would care to believe.

Allez Fed! Let’s go!


madmax Says:

Rumble

Nadal leads their head-to-head 21–10. Of their 31 matches, 15 have been on clay, which is by far Nadal’s best surface.

Federer has a winning record on grass (2–1) and indoor hard courts (4–0). Roger, winning 3 grand slams, 3 consecutive years and making the finals of the fourth slams, God why are some people, (rumble?) so ignorant here?

Nadal leads their head-to-head 21–10. Of their 31 matches, 15 have been on clay, which is by far Nadal’s best surface. Federer has a winning record on grass and indoor hard courts (4–0),

So let’s get real now and say, enough said!


madmax Says:

John Says:
The only Weak Era, is the weak Era of posting.

Never before has TX been over-run with so many Rafafanatic posters who talk so much baloney. One doesn’t even have to to read anymore.

Seriously, where are the moderators? Hasn’t this Hawk-slice show gone on long enough. When posters devalue the quality of reading here, such as these two have.

You don’t even have to mention Nadal to prove Fed is GOAT.

They just biding their time John. Let them dig their own grave.


Daniel Says:

Wow, Fed broke Nadal serving for the set from the back if the court. Awesoe points they played. Let’s see if this goes to a tiebreak.


holdserve Says:

Rafa is the best #2? Rafa is the best #1 also.

In the strong era,starting 2008, Rafa has more weeks at no. 1 and year end no. 1s than anyone else including Fed and Nole.
Rafa is the best #1!

skeezer logic is used to present unfavorably Rafa’s holding on to no. 2 at an age when most players are below top 10 including the so-called GOAT Fed.

According to skeezer logic outlined in some earlier post, if Rafa had won 2 RGs with 5 other slams, Rafa would be considered great on all surfaces but because he won 8 RGs with 5 other slams, he is good only on clay and bad on the other surfaces!!!!! LOL!!!!!


madmax Says:

First set to Rafa.

Come on Roger! Let’s make a match! Get the second set and play aggressive. It’s the break back you lost, but put it behind you. Glad it’s a close one. Makes it all the more exciting.


James Says:

“Nadal in 3, something like 7-5, 3-6, 6-2″

First set, right on the money. But I fear, this match could be over in 2. Nadal’s forehand is very good in this match.


metan Says:

James, how could your prediction is so accurate for first set 7-5. ;-)goood !!!


madmax Says:

Read the stats holdserve and dream. Just dream that one day your guy can be as loved and as accomplished as TMF.


Daniel Says:

Fed couldn’ save a BP. Both times Nadal went 15-40 he broke.
Disapoint for Fed to break Nadal to level the set 5-5 to be broken right back.
If he coul serve a little better he may have a shot. But he better get an early break or avoid fetting broken. Nadal comfirmed some serves with ease and was in dangerous in 2 games, being broken once.
Oddly this macth is not a I will target your BH feats they are actually using the whole court. Only missing Fed coming to net a few more times.


queen Says:

vamos Rafa melt the Swiss chocolate!!


queen Says:

Metan lol I bet u readin the stats everyday. That’s all u got left STATS.


John Says:

Seriously?

Tony oncourt couching again. OMG.


madmax Says:

Great serving
Fed! Good Job!


Daniel Says:

Nadal’s serve is excelent.


James Says:

metan, I thought Fed would try his best to take the first set…but Nadal knows what Fed is capable of and would not underestimate him. That’s why I thought the first set would be 7-5 in Nadal’s favor.


metan Says:

Uncle Tony said Vamos!! Not coaching!!!!!learn catalan please!!;-)


Daniel Says:

Jeeh he can save a single BP in this match. Unless he breaks right back by some miracle it’s over.


skeezer Says:

Rafa has been serving well the whole tourny, and its showing here.


Okiegal Says:

Wow, another break for Rafa!!

Great Match, guys….awesome play from both.

VAMOS RAFA!!!


TGIT Says:

God Fed at least pretend you are trying.

Let’s face it after this Rafa is the GOAT.

How could you argue otherwise?

Clearly Rafa will win more Slams. Are we really going to argue Roger is better if Rafa only has 16 slams at the end of his career.

Why does Roger bother? It can’t be for pride because everyone is smacking him around. He took the $ and now he is paying for it.

I don’t want to hear about training blocks missed because of a bad back. That is bull. At least Rafa took the time off to heal and came roaring back (twice). What is the point of always showing up with longevity records if you can’t win the final game?

Roger needs to retire and stop pretending he will/can come back.

Skeezer get over it. Rafa is better than Roger. Roger may play better but who cares if he can’t win.

He will not rebound in 2014. Done! He is in it for the money!!!!!!!


Daniel Says:

Fed 2 more chances to break if he sholds his own. Let’s see if he can still do something.


metan Says:

James, thanks. Next time please post early I would make more money. ;-) I am really good on this one.

@ skeezer. Thanks. Rafa serves is well today compared to his matches against birdy.


John Says:

TGIT get over it, stop being a little barbie.

Fed is 32. You are? 2? lmao.

Go back to school pls…


James Says:

Nadal wins, 7-5, 6-3!
If he can play at this level tomorrow, I like his chances in the final.


Patson Says:

Congrats to Rafa and Rafa fans , commiserations to Fed and Fed fans.

Don’t fight now. Please watch Nole’s match with Stan. That might be a tighter affair.


TGIT Says:

Wow Roger nice pussy way to end the match (and your career)

John, sorry to bring reality to the Roger fans.

Deal with it. What are your 12? LMAO!


skeezer Says:

32 ue’s will do it. Rafa strategy “just get ball in play”, Let Frd miss. Expected outcome. Imo a pretty boring match.
Congrats to Rafa fans. He is serving well overall. Fed didn’t bring the energy he had with Delpo. Hope he brings that type of energy in 2014. On to Nole and Wawa.


metan Says:

CONGRATS RAFA. VAMOS!!!!
The win that he wanted the most. And it is cooool.

COMMIS TO ROGER AND ALL HIS FANS HERE SKEEZER, MICHAEL AND BEN AND MADMAX…


Rsutherland Says:

That has to be one of the most muted responses to a win I have ever seen after an important win.
It looked like a lot of genuine respect to me.


madmax Says:

If Fed hadn’t beat delpotro the rafanatics would have said he tanked the match so that he didn’t have to face nadal.

It doesn’t matter what happens today. Roger admitted he was the underdog, and rafa was the favourite. The Fed who beat Rafa in 2010 is a different fed now and we all have to accept that, and we pretty much do.

So yeah, bring on more head to heads between these two because I would rather see Federer playing than not. He is the best player of our time. He will always have problems playing rafa, they do not match up well. But Fed is no walk over either. To beat delpo twice and to really give novak the range and take him to three sets, is still pretty awesome in my view. Murray and Tsonga, he too played great earlier part in the year, the long lay off was necessary but it has left its mark.

I hope for 2014 season, he is able to work on his mental state of mind approaching tournaments but also to regain some of the confidence he lost in 2013 although I think he has recouped a lot of that, just with rafa, along with many others, he isn’t quite there in that department.

Movement pretty good in patches, serving pretty good in patchees, but its the consistency that has gone and for that, he can only work harder in the gym or in his training block, but why bother? He does it now because he loves the game and still wants to play. So play he will. Of course would love him to beat rafa again, and may be that will happen, may be it won’t. But clearly Fed believes he can still keep it together out there, so if that it is wish and his drive, then we should all respect that.

It’s the break point conversions that fail him, and I am not sure whether anyone can help in that department, other than a sports psychologist.


skeezer Says:

Rsutherland,
Just wait. The rafafantics will incite the blog soon enough.;)


madmax Says:

John Says:
TGIT get over it, stop being a little barbie.

Fed is 32. You are? 2? lmao.

Go back to school pls…

November 10th, 2013 at 10:32 am

John, you are wasint your time. Seriously. But I do like the little barbie comment. It’s funny.

Skeezer, to be expected, yes? It’s all okay. Would like to see what fed says about the match, boy he played well the last few weeksm MORE than he has done the whole year, since the start of hte year. Now, he has reached his semi final 12th time, matches Lendl for the record there, he just cant beat rafa.

The Rafa then, is a different rafa now.

And it actually feels okay.

The truth will come out soon enough skeezer. No worries.


John Says:

@TIGIT

Me?

You stay away, ive been posting here much longer than you.Frankly, we dont need another hateful kiddy here, we have enough!

Sleep well hot head. And retire! here me?


Giles Says:

Vamos Rafa!
Well done Champ!
TWENTYTWO – TEN


madmax Says:

Rsutherland Says:
That has to be one of the most muted responses to a win I have ever seen after an important win.
It looked like a lot of genuine respect to me.

November 10th, 2013 at 10:39 am

Hey Rsutherland, didn’t you think this was just an exho, or is it really an important win?

I get confused you see.


TGIT Says:

Wow, John tell us stories when you posted about Borg on this site.

I would love to hear old-timer stories when they played with wooden sticks.

Really did you invent Tennis-X with Al Gore?


madmax Says:

Michael Says:
It is sometime when we saw a fighting Roger on Court there today with Del Potro. Even when he was two breaks down in the first set,he refused to give up and almost came close to even terms. But the gap was just too many and he lost. Again in the second and third sets, it was always Roger catching up. But he was playing some vintage Tennis in important moments of the match. Particularly his back hand slice was a novelty, sharp and treat to watch. It troubled Del Potro to no ends. What was encouraging is the fact that the fire inside Roger is blazing right now. He is desperate to win and that can be seen from all his unusual yells on court. Finally, he deservingly won.

November 9th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

Michael, you seem pretty level headed. What was your take on the match today with Fed? Do you think it was an overly tired state of mind/body after the three setter yesterday? Do you think that he needs to sort out the head?

Interested is all I am.


coaching gent Says:

Congrats to Rafa and Rafa fans !


madmax Says:

TGIT Says:
Wow, John tell us stories when you posted about Borg on this site.

I would love to hear old-timer stories when they played with wooden sticks.

Really did you invent Tennis-X with Al Gore?

November 10th, 2013 at 10:46 am

You are actually not funny at all TGIT, must be your warped sense of non humour. Glad they don’t bottle it. You would make yourself bankrupt by now.


TGIT Says:

madmax

You have been coasting on this site for years.


madmax Says:

metan Says:
CONGRATS RAFA. VAMOS!!!!
The win that he wanted the most. And it is cooool.

COMMIS TO ROGER AND ALL HIS FANS HERE SKEEZER, MICHAEL AND BEN AND MADMAX…

November 10th, 2013 at 10:38 am

Metan, no need. Seriously, we are used to the losses with Fed these days, (I speak for myself). Very pleased Fed got to London, very pleased he played so much better this part of the season than most of the rest. Looking forward to the next match and also looking forward t o seeing whether the fed we all know and love dearly, can get over the brain ghosts of 2013.

We will see. Anyway, enjoy the next match.


madmax Says:

TGIT Says:
madmax

You have been coasting on this site for years.

November 10th, 2013 at 10:50 am

Sorry TGIT whats your point?

You say you got no money? You bankrupt? Can’t hear you?


Giles Says:

Fed can have a nice long rest now and come back firing on all cylinders. Deepest respect for fed but NOT his hooligan fans.
Here’s to many many more Fedal encounters.
Vamos Rafa!


madmax Says:

Giles Says:
Vamos Rafa!
Well done Champ!
TWENTYTWO – TEN

November 10th, 2013 at 10:44 am

Indeed Giles,indeed. However with exhibitions, they dont count in the head to head, right?


TGIT Says:

My bad I thought this was a website not a cotillion.


Giles Says:

Now c’mon Wawawawa!


Giles Says:

@ madmax. If you say so.
#22-10


Sean Randall Says:

A decent first set from Roger, but wasn’t enough to fend off Rafa who didn’t even play his top level, didn’t need to.

Reality is Roger is 32, but at least after a dismal summer he showed some life the last few weeks.


Rsutherland Says:

OK Madmax: You are superb with statistics and making really excellent points about tennis.

However, I challenge you to dig up anything I have ever said resembling your accusation.

A) I NEVER go after Federer about his greatness and classiness

B) I have never said or implied that this was an exhibition (hence my challenge to you)

C) I further challenge you in all your intelligence (about tennis) to be an adult and admit that yours was a misguided attack.

D) I only go after those whom (in my opinion) wrongly attack Nadal or in your case have often shown reactions that read (to me) as disproportionately angry, considering none of these players play for your benefit nor probably even know who you are.

I await your proof Madmax…lets see it. If you can muster it, mea culpas from me.
If not, I would say your status as a blindly insufferable know-it-all loses its sheen.


Slice Tennis Says:

What do you do after a practice friendly ?

Wave your fans a bit, sign some autographs, pack your bags and move on.

That’s exactly what he did after this friendly hit with his favourite punching bag.
Vamos Rafa !!


Patson Says:

I guess a few centuries from now , the pressing question historians would ask is: was there ever a tennis blog where Fed fans and Rafa fans coexisted peacefully ?


James Says:

Good win for Nadal, but this is no time to celebrate yet. One more match to. Hope he finally wins this one significant title he hasn’t won it yet.


TGIT Says:

^Brilliant!

As a FedFan it is tough to admit but in all aspects Rafa is now the superior tennis player.

The only thing Roger has left is great hair. Sorry, Rafa fans you would have to admit that has not been looking too good lately.


madmax Says:

Match stats

Nadal Federer
2 Aces 6

0 Double faults 1

76 1st serve % 66

74 1st serve win % 69

69 2nd serve win % 40

4/4 Break points 1/4

15 Winners 17

14 Unforced errors 32

Hey Michael Skeezer, these are the match stats. More winners from Roger, but more unforced errors. What can he do to reduce these?

Looked as if his second serve also let him down today and he wasn’t able to convert those break points.

What can a tennis player do, of someone like Roger’s calibre, in order to convert those break points? Is it a practice? A thought in his mind at that time? What can he do here in order to improve that stat?


simba Says:

@madmax: To beat delpo twice and to really give novak the range and take him to three sets, is still pretty awesome in my view.

Moral victories gives you one small titles this year.

Over at Federer website, they love to post h2h before the match. Would it not be fun if Fed-Nadal be delayed by a few days. Then his fans can see for themselves

TWENTY – TEN; GOAT my a**


simba Says:

TWENTY TWO – TEN


madmax Says:

Simba, I would rather see Federer play than not. It is as simple as that. These days, my expectations of him are no longer the same. I still have them, but they are unrealistic. All I can do is base my feelings on the facts of the last few weeks and I think there is enough still in Fed’s game to make a good run, a deep run, in the slams. He is no longer a front runner in any of the tournaments. Meaning, that takes the pressure of him.

To my mind, he can be a dark horse for the next 2 years. It’s Novak’s and Rafa’s time, (along with Murray and dare I say, Delpo too). They are the ones with more staying power on court now and again, that’s okay.

I am very pleased however, that he beat delpo twice, (being the youngest of the top 8), and also has a great rivalry with Novak, though the h2h is now pretty even. It could well be that Novak too, far outweighs the h2h in his favour, by the end of Roger’s career. It doesn’t matter to me, and if it doesn’t matter to Roger, why should I care?

I would rather him continue to play. I do hope though that he fixes some of things I mentioned above like break point conversions, (I wonder wheter that is just a confidence thing, and what he can do about that? I have no idea).


Patson Says:

@madmax

My observation is that he hasn’t played the big points well at all this year. He makes unforced errors on big points e.g break point opportunities, break saving situations. On serve, the cost of an unforced error at 15-40 is far more than 15-0 or 15-15 or 15-30. Similarly, when receiving serve, the cost of an unforced error when break opportunities come is far more when it’s 30-40 as compared to 0-40 or 30-40.

That’s what’s happening these days. He’s committing the errors at the wrong time.


Patson Says:

^ 0-40 or 15-40


Giles Says:

I^^^ It’s a Rafa thing!


Giles Says:

^^^ For madmax.


skeezer Says:

Rafa deserves most of the hype and props. He has had an outstanding year. I saw his w/l ratio on HC this year and it was phenomenal. Nole is the current king of HC, so it should be a good battle if he gets through, provided they don’t play
“just get it in” type tennis.


skeezer Says:

Pataon,
Good observation.


skeezer Says:

Patson, sorry.


Kimberly Says:

^^^^^Agree would look forward to them both playing well. If Rafa plays like he played the first set v. Berdych and Novak doesn’t have his odd lapses it should be great.

Rafa played an amazing US Open but during that match when you really watched it was evident that Djokovic was the better hard court player. But Nadal was the better fighter. In fact, my husband, who is not a fan of rafa, thinks rafa is the best mental player ever and his only criticism is the burnouts. But if you have to take a seven month rest every few years to be number one and win a ton of grandslams titles and money is worth it no?


Rsutherland Says:

I thought not MadMax.

You took the time with all your bravado, to inaccurately attack a pleasant, relevant yet innocuous observation on my part.
You were challenged to back it up. You did not because you cannot.

And you gripe about Nadal fans?


JF Says:

But having said that, Nadal still was able to get to number 1. Every player has their choice on how to best coordinate their schedule. Plus, assuming that the knee injury is real as there is no way for any of us to know the truth either way, Nadal needed to take time off. I don’t believe you can discredit Nadal’s achievements on the fact that he took a lot of time off. Just because you take months off does not mean you are going to come back and win 10 titles or even have a successful return. In fact I believe it is the other way around. Taking so much time off has caused a lot of players to not be able to regain the form they once had and makes it quite difficulty to bring their game up another level.


holdserve Says:

The trouble with madmax and skeezer is that they think all Rafa fans are one poster. So if one Rafa fan said WTF is a glorified exhibition (incidentally I subscribe to that view)then madmax thinks all Rafa fans said it.
Although WTF is a glorified exho, it has points. Fed and Woz play minor tournaments seriously for points. But the titles while adding to their resume aren’t in the big league.
Rafa took WTF seriously this year to achieve no. 1 and in order to get more points to put some distance between himself and Nole in the 2014 season. He would also like to win all titles (he competes for) at least once.
Nole is also taking it seriously for catching up with Rafa in 2014.
Nole took it seriously last year too because of the points but in 2011 and 2010, he did not. In 2010, he was saving himself for DC and in 2011, he already had a big load of points.
As a title, it doesn’t have much importance because of the RR format. Imagine Wawa going to semis because Rafa beat Berdych!!!!!


skeezer Says:

“Although WTF is a glorified exho,”
This is where

*scroll*

Happens.
Aren’t you the one who said Delpo was tanking the match also?


skeezer Says:

“The trouble with madmax and skeezer is that they think all Rafa fans are one poster.”
Not true, there are only 3 vamoshead sockpuppets or so.


ID Fan Says:

Madmax,Skeezer and other Federer Fans:

Federer has the respect of his peers [Sportsmanship Award - 9 times in 10 years] and the love of the fans [ATP Fan Favorite award - 11years in a row]

I am a Djokovic fan, but I hope to see Federer play late into his career like Agassi and Connors. I wish the same for Nadal and Djokovic too.

Rsutherland, Giles, Hippychic and Kimberly:

Great win for Rafa. Now please cheer for Mr. Djokovic :)


skeezer Says:

Thanks ID!


ID Fan Says:

Skeezer, You are welcome. Your man will do well next year, methinks!


holdserve Says:

I did not say anything about Delpo. In any case, I think he is overvalued. He doesn’t have to tank to lose matches.
You are assuming all Rafa fans are the same.


holdserve Says:

Although I don’t like Nole , I will cheer for him against Wawa even though I realize it is better for Rafa if Wawa turns up on the other side.

I guess it is because I consider Nole to be a great player and feel it would be a shame if he loses to Wawa.
I feel the same about Fed. Although I don’t like him, I hate it when he loses to anyone outside the group of Rafa, Nole and Andy.


Hawkeye Says:

Congrats to fellow Rafans on a nice exho win.

Commies to perfect fan, staff, and the very few real tennis Federer fans.

Looks good on the sock puppets. Love all the excuses and bile. Means things are going well for Rafa!

Vamos Rafa!!!! Hope for his best tomorrow on this sunless artificial exho surface.


madmax Says:

Rsutherland Says:
I thought not MadMax.

You took the time with all your bravado, to inaccurately attack a pleasant, relevant yet innocuous observation on my part.
You were challenged to back it up. You did not because you cannot.

And you gripe about Nadal fans?

November 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

RS WTF are you trying to say? Don’t talk to be about bravado. You know nothing except using language here to suit your needs. And you don’t beg for discussion, you demand it. You are now making demands on me answering some deadbeat like you with comments you wouldn’t even comprehend

What I suggest (and you note I say *suggest* you do, is read the comments of your fellow monikers and decide who said what and who didn’t about glorified exho, and please, don’t come on here and tell me you are *mildly/majorly* upset at my comments. You hold me in that high esteem? I doubt that very much.

holdserve, the times you have said and posted on here, it’s nothing more than a glrofied exho and now, we have THE WELL KNOWN CAVEATS! HURRAHHHH!!!

Now all of a sudden it has points!? God what a walking paradox you are!

holdserve Says:
The trouble with madmax and skeezer is that they think all Rafa fans are one poster. So if one Rafa fan said WTF is a glorified exhibition (incidentally I subscribe to that view)then madmax thinks all Rafa fans said it.

Although WTF is a glorified exho, it has points.

Rafa took WTF seriously this year to achieve no. 1 and in order to get more points to put some distance between himself and Nole in the 2014 season. He would also like to win all titles (he competes for) at least once.
Nole is also taking it seriously for catching up with Rafa in 2014.
Nole took it seriously last year too because of the points but in 2011 and 2010, he did not. In 2010, he was saving himself for DC and in 2011, he already had a big load of points.
November 10th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

As a title it doesn’t have much importance?
What an utter load of rubbish. Probably saying that because out of 60 of rafa’s titles, he has only won ONE HARD COURT TITLE. THAT’S RIGHT. ONE. So I can see that you think it is of little significance.
skeezer Says:

“Although WTF is a glorified exho,”
This is where

*scroll*

Happens.
Aren’t you the one who said Delpo was tanking the match also?

November 10th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

skeezer Says:
“The trouble with madmax and skeezer is that they think all Rafa fans are one poster.”
Not true, there are only 3 vamoshead sockpuppets or so.

November 10th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

Well said Skeezer. Say no more.


Hawkeye Says:

Houston we have a meltdown.

Madmax, you’re wearing out the interwebs. Chillax it’s just an exho.


courbon Says:

@ ID Fan: I’m afraid you will not get cheer for Novak from Rafa fans .Apart from metan maybe, all Nadal fans ( even my sweet Hippy Chic ) always cheers whoever is opposite of Novak. Mostly Andy, always Delpo bur recently even Fed, when he plays Novak. So don’t expect support for Novak from Rafa fans. But they do respect Novak ( apart from couple of fanatics), so that’s Ok then.
I did not know, you support Novak so I’m happy now, that with the Patson you are also Novaks fan. It’s tree of us now! As usual, I’m nervous about tonight’s match-Novak did not play great last night. Hope he comes focus tonight.

****************************************
Congartulations to Rafa fans on the win.Rafa is the man to beat right now.
@skeezer, madmax and other Fed fans-I guess you expected this loss. I’m it dissapointed about second set-Fed l give up that set with ease .But hey-Fed’s definetelly on the right way in his recovery and there is still some magic time to time when you watch him…


Giles Says:

ID Fan. Sorry but I will not be cheering for Mr Djokovic. No offence. :-)


courbon Says:

@ holdserve: I just wrote that Rafa fans never support Novak and I just seen your post…what can I say? I was wrong, you are supporting Novak tonight, because of respect, so:Big respect to you!


Hawkeye Says:

Stan doesn’t stand a chance here. Like to see him push Nole to three. Nole on a roll. Rafa will need to play his best to have chances for the victory exho as it is.

Vamos Rafa!!!


Hawkeye Says:

Awwwww courbon, you make me sad you feel this way.

Ajde nole!!! Idemo!!!!! (Not tomorrow though)


andrea Says:

talk about going out with a whimper…..that volley into the net in the last game pretty much summed it all up for fed.

almost hope when he broke back in first set, but not converting any of those other break points in rafa’s prior game was pretty telling of how their matches have gone.

congrats to nadal for a perfect record at this event….at this stage, i’m hoping for novak to make the final – be a nice fit for the end of the year.


courbon Says:

@ hawkeye: I’ humbly eating my words right now…(-:


Rsutherland Says:

MadMax – yours is a tangential argument at best. The bottom line is you made an accusation that you cannot back up with any fact or evidence.
Desperately clinging on to a descriptive aspect of my retort does the argument win.
In simple terms: You accused. You were wrong. For whatever reason, you cannot own up to your false accusation.

Like so many other accusations (Nadal uses PEDs, I am the same as some other poster…I am not) some of you cannot offer proof, only accusations

I should lay off you however.
Honestly you have always shown the signs of a person with almost alarming anger issues.

If the veracity of your tennis-x moniker’s double entendre is intentional, you show (along with your adeptness at rattling off the same tennis statistics ad nauseam) a remarkable self- awareness for someone with emotional maladies.

More likely it is a coincidence.


madmax Says:

Oh My Goodness

Like so many other accusations (Nadal uses PEDs, I am the same as some other poster…I am not) some of you cannot offer proof, only accusations

Tell me where I have ever said your guy uses PEDs. Tell me? Never have I said that. But may be you know something, so is that why you are asking?

Go back to the posters RS who post continual crap about Fed and please, dont come here to back up your lies with more.

You need to post some academic arguments rather than name calling, which is what you are becoming famous for – not good buddy – not good.

You are more than one person here, your style, your language and your accusations.

If you can’t stand to deal in the truth, then carry on with the lies you build.

And stick to the Rafa threads, they are more in keeping with your comments. You don’t understandd, nor appreciate the comments about federer and you don’t really add anything to a discussion in my view.

One.Angry.Dude.


Okiegal Says:

I think all Fed fans should be so proud of their guy. Fed had some amazing winners today. As a whole I think he is looking so much better as of late. Roger stated in his presser that he was surprised that Rafa was playing so far back from the baseline and it was working for him.

The admiration Rafa has for Roger is evident in his actions after the match. Hey, these two guys like and respect each other so much. Too bad their respective fans can not do the same.

IN REGARD TO ALL THE KNEE ISSUE NAYSAYERS: Could it not be possible that Rafa’s knees could have healed since he didn’t play for seven months?? Can not believe that is still brought up on TX from time to time…….just saying.

I think Novak will beat Stan today…..he is simply playing too good lately to let that happen.

Vamos Rafa….regardless of who you play, it will be a tough match!!


Hawkeye Says:

Ditto what RSurherland said.

VAMOS!!!!


Patson Says:

@Rsutherland

I would like to get english lessons from you sir. You enhanced my vocabulary quite a bit with that one post :)

PS: This is not sarcasm by any means. I enjoyed the post purely due to linguistic reasons.


courbon Says:

Last two games Novak defence is just just amazing.


courbon Says:

This is the best tennis Novak played in this tournament.Another win.Yes!!!!!


Hawkeye Says:

Congrats courbon and patson!!!

Should be a good friendly tomorrow!

Vamos Rafa!!!


jamie Says:

How about you post my messages?

Yawn.


Patson Says:

@Courbon: High five buddy !

I predict a straight sets Nole win in the final. I don’t believe in jinxing someone. The only way a player can get jinxed is through his own performance. I’m supremely confident about Nole’s chances tomorrow.


Giles Says:

Vamos Rafa!
Good luck tomorrow!
Vamos Champ!


the DA Says:

@ courbon – Congrats on your guy’s win . I was beginning to worry because of the lapses and 3-setters but Nole seems to know precisely when to step on the accelerator. The stakes are high tomorrow: Rafa wants his first WTF; Nole wants to make a final statement before 2014. Let’s hope it’s a worthy final.


Steve 27 Says:

A win over federer on indoor was long over due. Should of happen back in 2010 but Nadal had that sore shoulder and was able to took a set off federer here.


courbon Says:

@ DA: Thank you.I was exactly the same about worrying-he was sloppy in last two matches.But, tonight it gives me hope that tomorrow he has a chance to win. I guess is 50-50% tomorrow.
One thing that is missing in this tournament- is Andy. I kind of miss the miserable Scotish git…bizzare, I don’t even support him.I hope he comes back quick.

@Hawkeye: Thanks, there is a lot’s of good and fair posters here, so there is no reason why we should not have a friendly matches.But if other bicker-you and me can be friendly at least. Let’s best man win !

@ Patson: High five!
I was joking about jinx last time…Novak was very focused tonight and gives me great confidence for tomorrow match.I hope you are right-we will speak tomorrow. Goodnight.


jamie Says:

Novak will win tomorrow. I just read it.


Steve 27 Says:

so jamie, two days ago you said Nadal will be the winner, and now you said Djokovic, Why this change of opinion and to that is?


Okiegal Says:

Novak looked good today. He will be one tough customer to beat. Rafa will have to be at the top of his game…..but he can do it. The matches between him and Novak are always exciting!!

Congrats to the Novak fans on his win today!!

Vamos Rafa good luck tomorrow!!


Patson Says:

Could it be that there are two jamies on tennis-x ?


mat4 Says:

Hope Novak will win tomorrow, and with a win in the Davis cup, it will be a great year for him. The way he played in the second set gives a lot of hope for next year.

Tomorrow, the surface will have his usual influence on the outcome. The surface slows down spin and the rebound his rather low. It could favour Rafa, since he has a more potent FH, although it will also help Novak’s BH.

Anyway, I am delighted the way Novak has improved his volley and his net game overall. He still has to work on his FH, especially CC, while he has improved this shot up the line.


Steve 27 Says:

jamie, I want to know who to bet


holdserve Says:

Vamos Rafa!!! Go and win !!! You can do it Champ!!!
Nole was scary good today but scary good against Stan doesn’t translate to scary good against Rafa.
Rafa is going to play closer to the baseline tomorrow to prevent Nole from hitting all those angles. If Rafa does not forget this in the heat of the moment and does not revert to his default position of way behind the baseline, victory is Rafa’s. I am sure he will not forget.
Good luck Rafa!!!!! End the year on a high!!!!!
And Giles, for you, one more Vamos Rafa!!!!!


Skeezer Says:

@mat4
You are missed!
Please bring some sanity posts back to Tennis X. Good stuff.


Skeezer Says:

Fed is the GOAT.
Rafael Nadal.

Vamos Rafa!!


mat4 Says:

@Skeezer:

I don’t know. I’ll try to post more from next year. I started to watch tennis a bit more, although I missed most of the indoor season: a few matches here and there.

I enjoyed Shanghai, I have to admit. Tennis on a fast surface, where a should-be-winner is indeed-a-winner, and where you can’t run faster than the ball.

I see that your man is coming back after this unexpected crisis, and I have no doubts that 2014 will be a good season for him. I hope to watch him for years, still. But it seems that he has to rethink his game, especially his positioning on the return, and he could use a bigger racquet. Nobody can convince me that Ferrer is suddenly better than Roger.

I also hope that the ITF and ATP will change their doping policy, and test players far more often. If the UCI can make 4000+ OOC test every year, the ITF could make 1000+ easily. It should be enough to clear the sport of the rising suspicions.

I see you quoted Rafa in your last post. You didn’t need to. It’s just like saying that the sky is blue, or the grass is green.


I Love Tennis Says:

mat4, nice to see you’re posting again … will be good to read more about tennis and good stuff.

The final will be a cracker for sure.


jamie Says:

Nadal will win.

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