Coric Ends Nadal’s Season In Basel, Federer Overwhelms Dimitrov; Ferrer v Murray In Valencia
by Sean Randall | October 24th, 2014, 8:22 pm
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Almost three months after putting Nick Kyrgios on the map at Wimbledon, Rafael Nadal did it again today by shining the spotlight on another teen, this time on 17-year-old Borna Coric who blitzed Nadal 6-2, 7-6 in the Basel quarters.

Coric, a mature speedster with a heady game, stormed out to a 5-0 lead in the first and then hung on for the win over Rafa who really looked like someone who didn’t want to be out on the court.

“I don’t know how far he can go,” said Nadal of Coric. “He’s a good guy, good player, young. It depends on how he’s able to improve.”

Nadal wasn’t at his best, but it’s still, a big win for youngster over his idol.

“It’s unbelievable for me,” said Coric who’ll crack the Top 100 now. “I just want to enjoy the moment. I’m just so surprised and it’s an unbelievable feeling.”

“Believe me, I’m a very nervous person. I [was] just trying to keep it inside of me,” said Coric. “I didn’t have anything to lose. Because I never played against him, I wasn’t sure what I was going to get – is he going to kill me or what? – so I was under pressure.”

As for Nadal, with the shaky decision to even play Basel due to the appendicitis it was understandable why Rafa looked listless out there. And now that he’s having the surgery in 10 days, 2014 is now behind and hopefully for his sake he gets some better luck in the new year.

“[It’s] nothing frustrating for me to lose here,” said Nadal, “I [knew] it was going to happen. I was ready for that. I accept and I know I have to be better for the beginning of 2015, and the only way to be better is work and health. Without health, you cannot work.”

Coric will move on to play David Goffin who bounced Milos Raonic. With Andy Murray and David Ferrer still alive in Valencia, Raonic will have to have a big Paris event to get into the Finals. I thought Roanic would get that spot over Ferrer, but not anymore.

As for Goffin, I like him to beat Coric. The Belgian’s been one of the best players the second half of the season, and now he’ll be a deserving seed at the Australian Open.

In the other semi tomorrow, Roger Federer will face big man Ivo Karlovic. As expected Federer turned away Baby Fed Grigor Dimitrov 7-6, 6-2. Grigor played decent in the first but simply went away in the second. He’s got the game but upstairs he doesn’t have it in him to beat Federer on his home soil. It’s that simple. And I don’t think Karlovic will beat Federer either.

“I thought the level was high throughout for both of us,” said Federer. “I think Grigor served very well in the first, he didn’t give me very many opportunities. It was a tough end to the set, with me saving set points and then the tie-break stayed close at the end, but I’m very pleased to come through there. I think overall it was a very good performance and I played my best tennis of the week so far.”

Federer is now just two wins from that 500 point ranking payday. So given Djokovic will be back playing next week, this weekend is really it for Federer if he wants to have a chance at No. 1.

In Valencia, Murray and Ferrer meet in the semis for the third time this month after David won in Shanghai and Andy in Vienna. Since it’s in Spain I give a slight edge to Ferrer, but it’s a toss-up match, one that Murray really should win. But with Nadal out (and Dimitrov and Raonic losing today) the pressure eases a bit for Murray in the London chase, so Ferrer needs this match more.

“The match tomorrow will be an important match, as was last week and also in Shanghai,” said Murray. “But even if I don’t win the tournament this week, I will still have an opportunity in Paris if I play well there.”

In the second semi it’s Jeremy Chardy against Tommy Robredo.

Tennis Channel will have coverage of the Basel matches.


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146 Comments for Coric Ends Nadal’s Season In Basel, Federer Overwhelms Dimitrov; Ferrer v Murray In Valencia

TennisVagabond.com Says:

Goffin one of the best players for the second half of the season? I didn’t know you were a smoker, Sean. How did Goffin do at Wimbledon? Oh, lost in first round.
Well, what about Toronto and Cincy? Oh, we was playing challenger events.

In Goffin’s career great run, he has been playing challengers and 250s! He wasn’t even ranked high enough for Toronto and Cincy. He’s beaten one top 20 player, Tsonga, before today.

So, as exciting as his emergence is, let’s put down the reef and get real: now he’s earned a spot to play with the big boys.


TennisVagabond.com Says:

Basel loses a lot of its lustre at this point, only Fed remaining of the big names that started. Good for Fed, but not so great for fans. Don’t know what to make of the Rafa loss- he certainly seemed to be playing unhampered tennis, but I would wager his mind and will weren’t there right now after deciding he was missing paris and london.


skeezer Says:

@TV,
You’re jokin right? Fans @ Basel are lovin all this!!


jane Says:

lol, TV. spliff must be the culprit. ;)


Brando GOAT poster Says:

Re Coric v Goffin: I really liked what I saw of Coric. His movement alone is impressive and possibly the best from the below top names I have seen in a while from a player not named Nishikori. He’s got great talent and I am glad he said he was nervous since I sensed during the match he was running on nervous energy. Understandable up against his idol. And Rafa killing him? Lol, Rafa seemed to like him as usually Rafa seems sullen after a loss but here he gave him a smile and a affectionate tap on the chest. Even Uncle Toni was applauding the kid! He did great. Goffin? I confess I have not seen what he’s produced but nonetheless it is great to see him doing well after his unfortunate injury. A talented player. This will be a very interesting match, a 50/50 affair that is close to call but I’d give Goffin the edge due to greater experience, form and Borna possibly still on a high from beating his idol. Fed v Karlovic? Straight sets won for the Swiss and a likely easier affair than v Grigor (who again had chances to win the set, screwed it up royally and subsequently fell away in the next set. Seems like a familiar yarn with him).


Steve 27 Says:

Coric will be better than the overrated Dimitrov, aka “Sugarpova”


Daniel Says:

What’s up with Murray lading in Djoko’s quarter again this lat months? Was it the fourth or fifth time? Damm!!


Steve 27 Says:

ATP is a bussiness after all, and a great bussinees is to give the swiss great draws.
Follow the money, guys!


skeezer Says:

Oh yeah, with rafafanatics, its always a conspiracy.


django Says:

I have to say Rogers got a very nice draw


Gordon Says:

Steve 27 – just because you would be a crook if you were running an organization, (or a bussiness as you write it), doesn’t mean the ATP is crooked.

There’s no troll like a bitter troll who can’t spell.


sienna Says:

Nadal was also injured when Soderling beat him?
those tards really spin every loss of the guy.


Margot Says:

Not too optimistic about Andy’s chances tbh. He’s played a heck of a lot of matches lately and it’s Ferrer’s home tournament so I think he’ll have that wee bit extra. And David took out Bellucci in two ticks, whereas Andy’s match seemed to go on for days!
However, if Andy loses he’ll have a bit more time to get ready for Paris, where he has nothing to defend, so not at all bad, at all.


Perfect fan Says:

Finally, the inevitable happened….believe or not, I was doubting rafa’s chances at paris, considering his medical case. I knew he had an obligation to take care of at basel, hence the push to play on….but I was doubting through out that he may not make it to paris. Nevertheless, I was hoping for him to end the season on a high by at least reaching the finals at basel….but what we finally make out after his loss is that he was not at 100% and probably was playing in pain.

Wishing rafa a speedy recovery to have a shot at the mighty “second-career-slam” come AO.

PS: If there is a comeback king in sports, it has to be RAFA :))


Perfect fan Says:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2014/10/goffin-beats-raonic-to-reach-swiss-indoors-semis/53122/#.VEs9Q5rrbIU

BTW, check out this pic….I dnt know how many ppl recognized this, but this man Coric has an uncanny resemblance to a younger version of rafa, particulary in this pic ;)


Jonson Says:

Rafa is most of the season just like a part time player…he always fit for clay courts but when indoor/Hard(fast) courts he took rest just says iam injured….its good for next season and protect his H2H records with his rivals….very bad sportsmanship i have ever seen


sienna Says:

If you look at Nadals winning streak 2013 as a comeback? ? well reasoning like that will bring you anything.
he was just taking a break to reset his mind and train (or other ill. preparation)
donot try to live a lie.


FedExpress Says:

Serena into the finals then

caro choked big time and got unluck in the TB

first she served for the match at 5-4 and the she led 4-1 in the Tie breaker, but a lucky net cord for serena williams was too much to ask


steve-o Says:

Great match from Roger against a very game Dimitrov. Saving those four set points and then turning it on in the tiebreak was very clutch, and so was erasing a 0-30 hole at 0-0 in the second set.

Last year Dimitrov lost because of inexperience and nerves, this time he played really well but just wasn’t able to keep up with Federer’s aggression and variety after the first set.

Looks like déjà vu for a third match in a row since he squared off against Karlovic in the same round of this tournament seven years ago. Karlovic is never easy, Federer will have to serve intelligently and come up with some great returns. So go Roger!


sienna Says:

probably the French are trying tot let FED play all matches possible.
all the french guys will knock eachother out and so they will get enough rest and practise the DC court.
So what would be better playing and winning or resting and preparing?


skeezer Says:

Goffin up a set already on Super kid.


Wog boy Says:

Federer is going to eat Goffin alive.
About Coric, he is nowhere near Nadal, Murray and Djokovic when they were 17/18 years old but can match 17 years old Federer.


skeezer Says:

@Margot
O ye of little faith ;). Murray wins!


Brando GOAT poster Says:

Yes Andy! Great win! Has to win the title now as Paris is a tough out with Novak possibly as early as QF.


the DA Says:

Like Margot I was expecting a drubbing by Ferru. But I was pleasantly surprised. Andy played fantastically for a set and 4 games in the 2nd. Suddenly he blinks and lets Ferru back into the match. Very clutch of him to grit his teeth and still manage to win in 2. This is essential considering his hideous draw in Paris.


Margot Says:

@Skeeze
Lol never happier to be wrong!
Andy Murray, you beauty! First set wonderful tennis. Second customary dip, then gr8 aggressive play. Haven’t seen him so aggressive on ROS for yoinks.
Go Andy!


Brando GOAT poster Says:

PS: just seen the Paris draw and I do not know how anyone cannot label that a completely laughable draw. All the top, inform, genuine threats on one side- Novak’s- and easy street on the other! Rigged draws or whatever theory, to not recognise the blatant advantage for one over the other in the Year End race due to that quite comical draw would be ridiculous.


Giles Says:

The draws are all rigged for fed. His fans even extend to the ATP, tourney officials, umpires and such like. How many cup cake draws has he had this year? I’ve lost count. And as he grows older this pattern will continue. This is all one big conspiracy designed to benefit fed. The organisers are trying very hard for him but unfortunately for him it ain’t gelling aka Wimbledon ( cup cake draw) – he failed. USO (cup cake draw) he failed yet again! Lol fed!
Too old to tango!!


Giles Says:

C’mon Dr Ivo!!!


skeezer Says:

Giles,
Don’t take Rafa losing to 2 17 yr olds out on Fed. After all, its not his fault, is it?


jane Says:

the paris draw is very lopsided. have to say: am disappointed that for the fourth event in a row where both have played andy and nole are in the same quarter again: us open, bejing, shanghai, and now paris.

congrats, btw, to andy on a good win today; he faces robredo in the final methinks?


Brando GOAT poster Says:

@Giles: Rigged draws? To be honest I do not believe in them. Fed benefoitting immensely from this year? I do not know how anyone can argue otherwise. Lets face facts: Nadal had a abysmal year by his lofty standards and yet it took Fed all the way after Shanghai to pass him. Essentially the best part of 10 months it took to surpass a player who forfeited 4,000 points without even hitting a ball. I wonder why. Infact: Till the start of the USO the year end race saw Novak and Rafa as top 2. Then Rafa got passed: easy to be done when he’s not competing for a 4,000 points swing. Fact is: the reason why Fed is in this position has as much to do with Rafa being injured and Novak being concerned understandably with personal issues. Since when both those guys have been fit and firing we all know how the talk with Fed has been: will he get lucky and avoid those 2? And that’s the main reason why Novak deserves number 1: he doesn’t need to avoid or dodge anyone. Fed? The truth is obvious: how many draws have we now talked about him avoiding Novak, Rafa in order to have a chance to win? Correct me if I am wrong but: a number one is the best player on the tour, NOT someone who’s only got a chance to win if he avoids player x, y, z. That’s not number 1 stuff: that’s a player who succeeds or has his greatest success when superior players have issues that stop them from performing.


Hippy Chick Says:

Im of the opposite opinion,and although it wont go down very well here,im actually glad to see Andy and Novak on the same side,prior to Andy winning Wimbledon they were on opposite sides quite a few times,and met in quite a few finals….


Polo Says:

Giles sounds like he was just taken for a spin in a UFO.


FedExpress Says:

Fed wins another set where he had to save set points

so clutch


jane Says:

i’d rather see them meeting in finals than r16 or quarters hippy!


FedExpress Says:

giles is talking so much nonsense nowadays


Hippy Chick Says:

Feel sorry for Karlovic,the crowd aint interested in applauding any great point he wins,they only care about what Rogers doing,so disrespectful IMO….


Hippy Chick Says:

Jane yes and so would i,although thats highly unlikely,i just think Andy might be less nervous right now,and have a better chance if he were to meet Novak in a semi rather than a final,but i see how you would like your two favorites to meet in a final which is understandable,lets just say you have your reasons and i have mine….


Dc Says:

@giles – you are right – many draws are rigged. The basel draw was rigged to put a 17 year old on rafas side- after all its the ‘teenagers beat Rafa’ year.


Daniel Says:

Damm, Karlovic with 27 aces in 2 sets. Takea the second. Fed start serving third. Hope he gets a break at some point.


sienna Says:

How many aces is dr Ivo planning to hit tonight?


jatin Says:

This thread is a great example of how some people try so hard to belittle a player’s achievement by churning out self made theories after theories.
The fact is, its a 33 year old who is suddenly dominating the tour, which is debunking their weak era theories.
Anyway. Haters gonna hate.

Its been a very tough match for fed so far. Never seen such an awesome server ever. Ivo is truely a genuine in this regard.
Hope fed will prevail.


jatin Says:

^^
Genius


jatin Says:

3-1
Go fed…


Hippy Chick Says:

I refuse to watch anymore of this match,i mean i hope Federer wins which i think he will,but a crowd that cheers every mistake or error Karlovic misses are downright rude,what a nasty bunch of people pftt….


Hippy Chick Says:

Jatin i dont hate Federer,and i hope he wins this match,but i just hate the crowds behaviour towards Dr Ivo,which is downright rude and disrespectfull….


jatin Says:

Hippy chick
That post was not meant to you in any way or form actually. :)
And yeah, I agree with you. But unfortunately that’s a disadvantage you have when playing against a player in front of his home crowd.

Anyway, just look at ivo’s ace count. Its 30 + . Lol. He is just out of this world in this area of the game


jatin Says:

Another final. :)
Congrts roger. Hope you will win this one as well.
Paris would be a real dog fight between fed and Novak . Bring it on !


Daniel Says:

Congrats Fed on yet another final, 4-5 this year hope he geta to 5-5 on hos tenth final of the season.

Things will get interesting if he wins tomorrow.
Next week QF clash between Novak and Murray could be determinant for YE#1.

First things first and regain Basel title tomorrow.
After Wimbledon Fed reached 4 finals of 5 tourneys played with so far two titles potential 3rd tomorrow and semis in US Open. Hope he keeps this level for Paris and WTF.


Hippy Chick Says:

Jatin i hope Andy has a say in how Paris goes,unless you mean the number 1 ranking? :))….


FedExpress Says:

10th final of the season

should have won more than 4, but it is how it is.

Go for ur 6th basel title rog


Gordon Says:

As pleased as I am to see Federer get the win I am a little disappointed in the Swiss fans treating the match as if it was a Davis Cup match. Karlovic is for the most part a one trick pony, but that trick was incredibly on tonight. It was really whoever had the mental toughness would win the match and the fans were relentless in cheering every miss that Karlovic made. It gave Federer a distinct advantage, or rather it gave Karlovic a distinct disadvantage.

It’s not Fed’s fault he is so idolized in his home country, but you don’t see that in Spain when Nadal is playing or in the UK when Murray has a match. I can’t speak to Serbia for I’ve not seen Djokovic play there outside of Davis Cup matches but my guess is they(the crowd) are respectful as well.


sienna Says:

happy chick.
cheer up! I think Roger will end his career after 2016 making 2015 his last fulltime year.


FedExpress Says:

@gordon

plz watch this years madrid masters final and then come back and say that u dont see such things in spain when nadal is playing


sienna Says:

serbain crowd respectfull! !?????!!! LOL


Hippy Chick Says:

Gordon i agree,if i hed been Fed i wouldve been embarassed by that crowd,IMO they are not true tennis fans,merely hero worshippers,in love with the players legacy,rather than loving the player….


Gordon Says:

FedExpress,

I did see Nadal play there and yes the crowd was pro-Nadal, but they were not cheering every mishit of his opponents as if it was match point for Rafa.

I mean seriously – did you watch the Fed-Ivo match? It was embarrassing. I may not eat a Lindt chocolate for a week or so.


Giles Says:

Dc. It’s one thing for a teen to beat Rafa and quite another to back up that win.
@Polo. UFO!!


autoFilter Says:

Given such allegedly cushy draws, it’s interesting that Federer has managed to amass the most wins over top 10 players this year. Especially considering he’s played less tournaments than anyone in the top 100 aside from Djokovic, Kyrgios, Wawrinka, and Troicki…


FedExpress Says:

i am not saying the crowd was polite today. but thats sport. it happens when some player plays at home. not his fault. what can he do?

and the spanish crowd even cheered when nishikori got injured. Thats disgraceful IMO


FedExpress Says:

*not cheered, booed


Giles Says:

Are the fed fanatics doubting fed will win tomorrow? With that disgraceful crowd cheering his opponent’s every error? What do you think? Pfffffft!
They are not tennis fans just fedfans!


jane Says:

daniel, i have pretty much resolved that nole will lose the #1. he’s got a heck of an uphill battle with the draw in paris, and he’s not going to be match grooved and maybe not even focused with the new baby. so fed will likely get it.

autoFilter, can you tell me where i find the information about tournaments played? thanks


Polo Says:

I’m glad that all I get to see is the score and not the boorish crowd that went to see the Federer/Karlovic match. It’s a blackeye to all Swiss and by extension, through no fault of his own, to Federer, too.


skeezer Says:

Its never cool to cheer an opponets unforced error, but it happens, and it didn’t start here. Have seen this at other tournaments. The Basel tournament has Fed on bill boards , signs, banners, pretty much everywhere. The guy is a King there, so being overzealous about their star is not surprising.

I am not defending the crowds action towards Ivo, it was uncalled for, wish they acted with more respect fo Ivo. But Fed’s country is very proud, this guy is the best athlete they have ever produced. Who else has this country produced that has made such a global impact on Sport?


jane Says:

duh, thanks skeezer!


Gordon Says:

Well, as they say, what goes around comes around. The Davis Cup will be played in front of a near record crowd of 22,000 in France and Fed’s (and Wawa’s) mental toughness will be put to the test.


Hippy Chick Says:

I will say this at the French Open,the crowd were very pro Rafa,and quite rude about Novak….


sienna Says:

I have seen and heard of spitting spanish crowds against dutch players haarhuis/eltingh so how about them aples?
and also when henmania wassen going on. .the decent british crowds cheered double faulting krajicek or a match against haarhuis u remember.

so that was in 3/4th round of slam… but ut all of a sudden the haters are blaming Fed.


Hippy Chick Says:

Sienna im not the Happy Chick,im the Hippy Chick with an I not an A,but i am the Happy Hippy Chick,so i dont need to cheer up,i like Roger its just he is not my favorite,what i didnt like was that bloody crowd, but credit to Ivo and Roger though for behaving with class,which is more than can be said for that crowd….


Daniel Says:

Jane,

I don’t think Fed will go that far in Paris as well. Assuming
He wins here Paris presenta an oportunity but of he and Djoko loses on the same round the battle will be decided in Londo ana the difference for winner and finalist umdefeated is 500 pts of one of them faulter the other could clinch #1 without winning the titles. In fact is mathmatically possivle that Fed could clinch YE#1 wihtou winning Paris or Wtf as lomg as he win 500 pts more than Djoko in this two tourneys. All of coirse assuming Fed wins tomorrow.

In Djoko’s case if he wins Paris and Fed loses early e can clinch YE #1 in London round robin which would be ideal for him.

Analysing their results post Wimbledon Djoko achieved only 1 final out of 5 tourneys, which he won, but a 500 tourney. In my eyes he should target at winning at least one of the two he will play: Paris or London.


autoFilter Says:

Hi Jane,

I was slow on the draw, but it looks like Skeezer had it covered (thank you). In this particular case, the YTD rankings are pertinent, so, to be more specific: http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/YTD-Singles.aspx


Gordon Says:

sienna Says:
happy chick.
cheer up! I think Roger will end his career after 2016 making 2015 his last fulltime year.

October 25th, 2014 at 1:18 pm

I have to applaud someone who can see a full 2 years down the road while most in here have problems predicting a tournament winner 2 weeks from now.

Mind you, sienna also claims there are ATP tournaments in December where there are none, so who knows? 😛


rogerafa Says:

The crowd was very pro-Roger but I have seen much much worse than that when a home favorite is playing. It is in a way a tribute to how well Ivo played. There were times when nobody in the world could have done anything about his serve. Obviously, this frustrated the crowd and they felt a certain sense of helplessness. I am sure even Roger must have wondered if this was going to be one of those days before Ivo missed some first serves in the game he was broken. Ivo was sporting enough and the crowd cheered him as he left the arena. Ivo acknowledged the cheers by raising his arm quite a few times. There were moments when the crowd was compelled to grudgingly applaud Ivo, such was his serving display. I think Roger got a bit lucky today but the margins are always wafer thin when Ivo is in such serving form.


autoFilter Says:

“i have pretty much resolved that nole will lose the #1. he’s got a heck of an uphill battle with the draw in paris, and he’s not going to be match grooved and maybe not even focused with the new baby. so fed will likely get it.”

On the other hand, I could just as easily see him coming back completely high on life and going all Matrix on the field.

Even if Federer wins tomorrow, 500 points is still quite a gap to bridge at this stage of the year, and Fed has played a lot of tennis lately. Even just one fatigued game somewhere along the way could easily end this discussion.


sienna Says:

it could well be that they both will lose Paris in same round and then sharpen up for o2.. qualifying for sundays final with 1000 points each
winner gets 500.

even when fed loses 200 points in RR then he still could get points in DC final.
I personally am hoping for the DC scenario. it doesnt seem so far fetched like a week ago.


rogerafa Says:

@ Daniel

I do not think Roger is very serious about Paris or WTF this year. The fact that he practiced for a few days on clay bang in the middle of an indoor hard season should tell us something about where his priorities are at the moment. Novak is in the driver’s seat anyway unless he has a massive dip in form.


jane Says:

thanks autoFilter. ha ha, i liked that “all matrix on the field.” :)

i guess the fatigue factor can counteract the momentum/confidence factor. we’ll soon see.

in any case, fed, nole and rafa will all be fairly close to start next year, and andy’s gaining too, soon to be #4 again? it’s looking like the big 4 is still the big 4.


sienna Says:

Gordon
do yourself a favor look up the startdate
of brisbane.


Okiegal Says:

I’m sure all home crowds have a few people who can get rude, but this crowd was way over the top! There’s rude and then there’s nasty rude.
Maybe that’s the general personality of the Swiss….I don’t know for sure, because I don’t know a soul from Switzerland. When Barry Switzer coached the Oklahoma Sooners, Norman, Ok, home of the Sooners was often referred to as Switzerland….I might have to rethink this comment, Barry is not rude!! Lol Go Sooners and VAMOS Rafa!!


sienna Says:

so there are actually 3 atp tournements starting december. but ut does not matter. Roger always plans 1 1/2 years for scheduling. so his longevity deals with some of his buddy deals end in 016 and others are already altered on yearly bases.
plus he has already spoken about preparing south america for olympics.


Okiegal Says:

@Chick 2:02

They might have been pro Rafa but don’t you remember the standing ovation the crowd gave Novak? I didn’t think they would ever stop and Novak wiped a tear from his eye. But for the most part, all crowds are fickle and will change their support in a New York minute…..for the sake of seeing more tennis. You can’t tell anything about who a crowd is for, with the exception of the home town arena. Applauding and cheering for errors is in very poor taste, I don’t care what fan base it is….they’re all guilty….imo.


Okiegal Says:

@Chick 2:02

They might have been pro Rafa but don’t you remember the standing ovation the crowd gave Novak? I didn’t think they would ever stop and Novak wiped a tear from his eye. But for the most part, all crowds are fickle and will change their support in a New York minute…..for the sake of seeing more tennis. You can’t tell anything about who a crowd is for, with the exception of the home town arena. Applauding and cheering for errors is in very poor taste, I don’t care what fan base it is….they’re all guilty….imo.


Okiegal Says:

Sorry double post……


Hippy Chick Says:

Okiegal yeah true,and although i will probably get lambasted by Laurel and Hardy(two male Rafa fans), i did in fact feel sorry for Novak in that final,anyway is anybody remotely interested in the Robredo/Chardy match,both are playing well,and not much to decide between the two,Robredo with the 1st set,lets see who gets the privalege of taking on Charlton Heston in the final,must say enjoying the eye candy,but the tennis is also pretty good to watch too no honestly lol….


Gordon Says:

Sienna – I did myself a favour. The tournaments start January 4 or 5. Which is not December. So… ?


Giles Says:

HC. I am not so sure you will get a lambasting from Laurel and Hardy on this occasion but you sure do need a lambasting from someone for all thr drivel you spew!!


Hippy Chick Says:

And there you go….


Hippy Chick Says:

Ill just repeat what i said on the other thread, your words were sucking upto Skeezer,when i said fantastic win for Coric,stop been so bloody childish….


Hippy Chick Says:

Im hoping Chardy can take this set to force a third,as its quite a good match,dont really care whom wins,both are nice guys playing good tennis….


elina Says:

First time outside Davis Cup that I’ve seen a crowd aggressively cheer repeatedly on missed first serves.

It was the turning point of the match.

Classless.

Roger and the crowd will demolish Goffin.

Quite the dream draw in Paris for Rog.

Nole and Murray in the same quarter four tournaments in a row a 1 in 16 chance. Sure, it happens!

mew!


Hippy Chick Says:

Elina what is this mew that you keeping repeating in your posts?….


sienna Says:

@Gordon
life must be a box of chocolates for you.

please explain how a jan start would fit 2 weeks atp 250 followed by a 2 week slam. U think the slam also has a sunday start.


sienna Says:

hence they start december to play their finals first saturday/sunday of the new year.
you look at finaldays of those tourneys


Daniel Says:

Gordon,

This year and the ear before Doha started in December 30th if I am not mistakem. Chenai as well.

Just check the calender this year and you’ll see. That’s why they spend New Year in middle east.


Daniel Says:

rogerrafa,

I agree with you but I won’t be shocked if Murray beats
Djoko in Paris. (Murray is due thos year and match grooved now). And WTF we don’t know how the young guuns will fare. That tourney could be one of the most unpredictable in years, or go as form.

Fed may not even be thinking of #1 as some of us are bu if Djoko’s faulter he knows is innthe helmmpf
Possiblities. And he is the most sucessull player at WTF so. I fancy his chances.

Bur of course I think he will gauge his efforts accorsingly with what Djokovic presents, which right now is kind of uncertain.


Skeezer Says:

HC,
Lol @ 3:55. Nailed it!


sienna Says:

or they reschedule DC 1 round to be able too start januari 5….

ÓUCH!!


steve-o Says:

All right Roger! It was very tough going for two and a half sets, but he made it. One more match for the title!


elina Says:

You guys, there are no ATP tournaments starting in December 2014 just as Gordon said.

The first tournaments are Brisbane, Chennai and Doha all starting the week of January 5th (Monday).

Hope this helps!


Hippy Chick Says:

Come on Andy,qualify or dont qualify,i dont care,just do your best and end the season on a high,im so proud of you….


elina Says:

BTW, the 2015 Australian Open is pushed out a week later with the main draw starting January 19th.


Hippy Chick Says:

I feel for David, Goffin tomorrow,especially if the crowd in Basel is anything like it was today….


Hippy Chick Says:

Wimbledon starts a week later next year i believe?….


Brando GOAT Poster Says:

@Giles:

I am seriously surprised at you for even engaging with that poster. Truly surprised. Almost in a state of disbelief at seeing that you have done so. Quite unfortunately. After all, why would you engage with:

A poster who comically requests that you stop being childish and yet feels comfortable to label posters Laurel and Hardy without any due cause.

who is the child there? The ignorant one who throws accusations without recognizing that they behave in the very ridiculous manner they accuse others of?

You say Giles you consider it drivel. Well so do I in my own opinion so I say take my tip in this regard:

Just ignore the said poster completely.

Do not engage with the poster at all.

And hope that they have self respect enough to leave you and your posts alone without bothering you since any individual with a semblance of sense would figure:

Hang on- he thinks my posts are complete nonsense, banal trash, he’s ignoring me so I best not poodle after him seeking attention.

How has it gone so far you Brando?

Unfortunately not so great. I have been ignoring said poster and yet the poster reads my posts and uses it to butt kiss up to another poster on here on the other thread in the most ridiculous of manner’s.

Pathetic stuff.

I was totally appalled to be associated in even the remotest fashion in that episode- routinely of course- of butt kissing.

I just hope said poster acts their age and:

1. Does not direct any post or comment to myself.

2. Ignore’s my posts completely and not spin off my comments when they are not welcome to them in the slightest.

3. Most importantly: do not use them as a pad for butt kissing as it was done so pathetically in the other thread.

4. Just takes the hint and completely leaves myself and my posts well alone like a mature adult would when someone does not wish to engage with them in ANY manner.

Clearly it’s too much to ask it seems with the childish slurs of Laurel and Hardy which lead to ridiculously blind accusation’s of being childish when the said poster is:

Actually behaving like a child in all of this.

If you have the same desire Giles to be left well alone by said poster who you may feel does nothing but seek attention, butt kiss to posters here even though they showcase the most ridiculous views on here, has a episode almost every 2 days on here and generally contributes nothing here interms of articulate observation on the game but just engages in childish games then I suggest:

You follow my lead by ignoring the poster and hope/pray they take the hint and direct their childish ways towards others who may want to indulge in their attention seeking, kissing up ways.

I suggest you ignore them.

And this is the last I shall post on this complete bore of a subject matter.


elina Says:

Murray has all but mathematically clinched a spot in WTF.

To be eliminated, he would have to lose the Valencia final tomorrow and lose very early in Paris and Dimitrov would have to make the finals in Paris or Raonic would have to make the semis.

If he wins tomorrow, he’d have to go out early in Paris and either Raonic would have to make the Paris final or Dimitrov would have to win.

Neither of these two scenarios are very likely.

If Dimitrov doesn’t make the semis next week, he is out no matter what (unless another qualifier pulls out of WTF).

The last spot is really down to Ferrer and Raonic. Ferrer leads Raonic by 115 points.

Raonic should make the quarters (if he plays to his abilities) before he runs into Fed which will give him 180 points.

So Ferrer should just have to get to the round of 16 to clinch but he could have to play beat Goffin and Simon to do so.

It will be interesting!


Gordon Says:

Elina – thanks!

I was being ganged up on by people who were either too lazy or who couldn’t be bothered to check on the ATP site.

As usual – when they are wrong – they disappear until their mistakes are buried by more recent posts. Then the attitude will out again.

Whatever happened to “When you’re wrong admit it?”


Hippy Chick Says:

Brando yes i did indeed bring myself down to your level,and for that i apologize,but i have to say,your turning into a bully just lately….


Hippy Chick Says:

And for the record FYI it was Giles who addressed me first when i said i thought Coric played a fantastic match,which you had also said in an earlier post,then Giles retorted back with how can you say he played a fantastic match when Rafa was injured,or words to that effect,which was merely a difference of opinion,and then i was told it suited me perfectly kissing upto skeezer,to which i replied i have disagreed with skeezer a few times,and made my stance about it when i do, i suggest you go ahead and read it….


Brando GOAT poster Says:

Looks like I must have asked for the world considering how a simple request to be left alone has led to more unwelcome drivel being directed my way. Ignorance is bliss Brando: try hard to ignore the rubbish directed your way. Scrolling down and hard!


Hippy Chick Says:

Robredo is dangerous,he had match points against Andy a couple of weeks ago when they met,he also beat Roger at the USO last year,so not a player to take lightly.
BTW Am i right in thinking that Wimbledon starts a week later next year,can someone enlighten me?


Daniel Says:

Elina and Gordon.

You guys must blind sorry. O to ATP site and click tournaments in calender than check 2014 start date 2014!!!! Doha and Chenai and Brisbame all started on December. Qualygin started on December 28th. Jesus you are start to ge annoyong check the blood facts. Damm
Unbelievable!!


Daniel Says:

Brisbane 29.12.2013

Qatar 30.12.2013

Aircel Chenai 30.12.2013

And guess what, 2013 Calender began almost te same dates, in December.

Brisbane 30.12.2012

Doha 31.12.2012

Chenai 31.12.2012

Respectivelly.

Check your facts before stating something without being sure, please!!


Daniel Says:

2015 indeed starts in january but past years don’t and I thibk this was what tou mistaken becaise siena was referrig to this previous tournaments.


Okiegal Says:

Wow, there are a bunch of folks who got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Why is everyone being so touchy?? This forum has turned into a grade school playground…..I’m ready for recess! You can’t comment about anything that there isn’t someone jumping down your throat! Chill out people!!


Hippy Chick Says:

Daniel am i right about Wimbledon starting a week later next year?….


Daniel Says:

Yes HC, Wimby status on June 29th and finish on July 13th whereas in the past starter tire week of June and finishes first week of July as this year.


Hippy Chick Says:

Okiegal agree,i wish Grendel or Courbon were here to say something funny….


Hippy Chick Says:

Daniel though so many thanks,good news as there another week between the FO and Wimbledon….


Hippy Chick Says:

Sorry meant many thanks,excuse the typos….


Gordon Says:

Daniel – butt out if you don’t know what you are butting into. Over three different threads sienna has asserted that December marked the start of the 2015 and she refused to be corrected. She is the one that needs to look it up. My memory occasionally fades but I do recall that there were tourneys in Dec LAST year, but that is not the topic.


Hippy Chick Says:

Wonder if Rafa will call time on Halle next year(hope so),and return to Queens club,as his contract was up this year i believe?….


Wog boy Says:

Dr Ivo is one of the nicest guys on tour, he didn’t deserve to be treated like that, that was awful to watch…and they are Swiss!!
I worked until late started watching around 2am this morning and was disgusted with fans behaviour, it was like soccer game in some remote country town in the third world country, the only difference, Swiss were dressed better.


Wog boy Says:

sienna Says:
serbain crowd respectfull! !?????!!! LOL

October 25th, 2014 at 1:21 pm

You can’t help yourselfs, can you? I told you years ago, here on TX, that you should stop visiting those Amsterdam coffee shops where you smoke weed, prolonged use causes brain damage.


Hippy Chick Says:

Wogboy Milwall FC….


Wog boy Says:

^^ “yourself”


Wog boy Says:

HC,

Sorry HC, that “yourself” was correction of my previous post.
What happene with Milwall FC, they didn’t beat us, did they?


Okiegal Says:

@Chick……I too hope RafA goes back to Queens….Love that tournament. That would be a fun one to attend…..so close to the action!! Hey, what did you think about Rafa’s scruffy face? Is he trying to look like Fabio? That’s OK as long as he doesn’t act like him!! LOL. Ok


Hippy Chick Says:

Wogboy i know,they might have beaten LVC some years ago,but not that,their fans were always notorious for causing trouble at matches,causing fights etc,they were not interested in football only causing trouble,i used to work at Coventry City FC stewarding on match days….


Hippy Chick Says:

Okiegal i love Queens,the fans look so close to the players,im so jealous,and would love to go there one day,and watch Rafa and Andy,Rafa does need a shave but i suspect thats the least of his worries ATM,i like Fabios look,but your dead right in that i wouldnt want Rafa to become like him lol…


Wog boy Says:

Thanks HC, I didn’t know that about Milwall fans, but English fans are now one of the best in the Europe, Iron Lady fixed them up.


Hippy Chick Says:

Wogboy your welcome….


Hippy Chick Says:

Best behaved were always Norwich City….


skeezer Says:

Spew and drivel. Drivel and spew. Anything else?


Skeezer Says:

About Paris…Fed has a cupcake draw? Doubt it. He plays a hot Chardy right off the bat(made it to semis @valencia). Has Ivo again (early), possibly Wawa, Birdshit, Raonic, etc. not exactly opponets Fed has easily rolled over. Granted Noles half is tougher on paper….but everyone knows how the draw can open up with upsets…..


Daniel Says:

Gordon,

When she first addressed the issue she meant 3 tourneys tred in December in 2014 and you said there is no tournaments on December. You were refereeing to next year and she to this year. I don’t recall the tread she first right but that was mh understanding. You said as if there were never tournaments i December as there were for last years. Next year that don’t.

I won’t search the treads now but my impression and I believe Siennas as well was that you implied that there were never tournaments in December so clean your language because the last post was the first time you add the year 2015.

Next time had tou just put NEXT year there is no tourney in December tou would have aaed some posta. Or you indeed thoght there were never tournaments in December and don’t want to admit now. Who knows?!

My impression was this and I won’t butt of to please you. Stand correct in your assessemens to bot allow doube interpretaion if ir is jot opinion. This is a tennis blog with people who dissect the stats and info in this sport as myself and many others.


Michael Says:

It is distressing to see a great fighter like Rafa in this piquant situation where he is completely short of confidence and is looking highly vulnerable even against journeymen. Sure, Rafa came a cropper in a sequence of Wimbledon outings losing in the 2nd round, then in the first round and finally last year his pride was wounded by a little known Krygois. It is from then his misfortune started. But, tellingly, Rafa didn’t enjoy a good season even in his favourite Clay court surface this year. Although he won Rolland Garros for an unprecedented 9th time, his performance in Clay court master series tournaments was a real dampener despite his victory at Madrid against a physically struggling Nishikori who was strangely dictating Rafa on a Clay court. Rafa is today in a very strange situation as to how to go forward ? Apart from his physical problems, he has a mental issue too and he is literally in a quandry ? To perform surgery or not was the principle idea dominating his mind rather than match play and although he participated in matches to prove something his heart was not onto it. I think he could have wisely skipped tournaments once he was diagonised with appendicitis and concentrated on alleviating it rather than continuing his match play by being in two minds. Nevertheless, he and his Team were the best judge and they made a call which has perceivably back fired. The good thing is Rafa will be performing his surgery and may be he has good chances of competing in Australian Open. Let us wait and watch how things unfolds. But if you are a Rafa fan, it is terribly depressing to see your idol in such a bad shape.


Michael Says:

And what I can say about Roger who is chasing his 6th Swiss Indoors. The man is 33 and still fully fit and going strong. His match against Karlovic was a revelation as to how Roger is able to tame these big servers who come out with all guns blazing. Karlovic is a hard nut to crack and you can please ask Novak his experience of facing the former. So it is Roger in the finals of Swiss indoors once again and it is definitely a routine for him in this tournament and against Goffin he should be the overwhelming favourite.


SX1 Says:

Rankings at age 18 …

Borg 8
McEnroe 264
Lendl 324
Agassi 18
Sampras 91
Federer 104
Nadal 46
Djokovic 153
Nishikori 286
Raonic 915
Kyrgios 152
Coric 93
Zverev (17)135


Wog boy Says:

Rankings at the age of 19…

Djokovic top10 with one master title, another final and few 250 titles…:)


sienna Says:

yeah Gordon You are right about 2015 but you clearly with your comment suggested Thatcher it is absolutely stupid to suggest tourney ever could have started in december.
so that is also noted. are you somewhat of an arrogant moral entity here on this site?


Hippy Chick Says:

Ill watch the Murray/Robredo match,but the Federer/Goffin match ill be giving a miss after that crowd yesterday,ill check out the live scores instead….


Margot Says:

Andy @18 64


the DA Says:

@Margot – Well remembered. People have a habit of leaving Andy off these lists. It would also be interesting to compile a list of teenagers who beat world No. 1′s or top 3. Our boy would do well in that one ;)

Looking forward to the final later, albeit nervously.
Wish it was Chardy instead – shorter points. It could be another grindfest like Shenzen.

Lastly, I read somewhere that this will be Andy’s 45th final – an impressive milestone.

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