Murray Retires In Rome; Federer v Simon, Nadal v Gulbis Thursday

by Sean Randall | May 15th, 2013, 9:39 pm
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It turned out to be a rather eventful day in Rome. A light news schedule blew up when birthday boy Andy Murray retired from his match with Marcel Granollers after the Scot won the second set in a breaker to even the affair.

Fearing further damage to an ailing lower back – a problem he says he’s had for a few years now – and possibly missing his big events at Queen’s and Wimbledon, Murray is now contemplating withdrawing from the French Open.

“I need to make plans and see what to do,” Murray said. “Tonight I’ll speak with the physio and come up with a plan for the next few days and then make a decision on Paris after the next five days. I’ll need to take some days off and see how it settles down.”


“I’ll try and get it sorted but its been an issue for some while,” he added. “So I want to make sure that it’s something that I can sort out. It’s not enjoyable to play now.”

Murray still has plenty of time to heal up for Paris and back injuries are often day-to-day – Roger Federer has been dealing with a similar issue for quite some time. So I’ll play doctor and think Murray, who really doesn’t play well on the clay anyway, will still be at the French. If he isn’t then regardless of how Rafael Nadal does this week in Rome, the King of Clay will get that Top 4 seeding.

Nadal, who cruised to victory today over Italian Fabio Fognini, now matches up with the red hot Ernests Gulbis in a good one tomorrow. The Latvian crushed Viktor Troicki today 6-1, 6-1 and has some good history in Rome. In 2010 Ernests stunned Roger Federer in three sets and then took a set off Nadal in the semifinals. I think Gulbis could do the same again tomorrow against Rafa.

Back then, Gulbis joked that he “shit my pants a little bit” when he had the match against Federer on his racquet. Let’s see if he can do it again and keep his pants clean in the process.

Speaking of Federer, he’ll face a stern test against veteran Gilles Simon. The Frenchman isn’t a big threat on the clay, but he always plays Federer tough. In completed matches, Simon leads Federer 2-1 but they haven’t played on clay and they haven’t played in over two years.

Murray wasn’t the only top seed to go out on hump day. JW Tsonga was bounced by the hulking Jerzy Janowicz 6-4, 7-6. After a slow start to the year, the Pole’s two Top 20 wins this season have come in the last two weeks.

“I was really happy especially because I didn’t get off to a good start to the season and I was sick,” said Janowicz. “So this was really important for me.”

Janowicz now faces Richard Gasquet.

Also today, David Ferrer edged Fernando Verdasco in three sets. Credit to Verdasco, after being MIA most the last six months, he’s playing better and making some noise. Benoit Paire and Jeremy Chardy were also winners while Madrid finalist Stan Wawrinka unfortunately withdrew with a thigh strain. Let’s hope Stan is just taking some extra time to prepare for what should be a good French Open.

Looking at Thursday, the schedule is absolutely loaded. Novak Djokovic is on first against the unorthodox Alexandr Dolgopolov. Tomas Berdych and Kevin Anderson meet again – they play every week, right? Ferrer now plays Phil Kohlschreiber and Juan Martin Del Potro will use the Pope’s blessing against Paire.

In the women’s draw, Maria Sharapova tests Sloane Stephens while her likely opponent in the final, Serena Williams, faces Dominika Cibulkova. Former slam winners Petra Kvitova and Sam Stosur will battle on the third court!

Tennis channel will have first ball to last ball of all of the men’s matches.

ADDED: Here’s what Ernests said before playing Rafa in 2010 in Rome (- Tom):

ROME THURSDAY SCHEDULE

CENTRALE start 12:00 noon
[1] N Djokovic (SRB) vs A Dolgopolov (UKR) – ATP
[7] S Errani (ITA) vs [12] M Kirilenko (RUS) – WTA
[Q] E Gulbis (LAT) vs [5] R Nadal (ESP) – ATP
Not Before 7:30 PM
[16] S Stephens (USA) vs [2] M Sharapova (RUS) – WTA
Not Before 9:00 PM
G Simon (FRA) vs [2] R Federer (SUI) – ATP

SUPERTENNIS ARENA start 11:00 am
K Anderson (RSA) vs [6] T Berdych (CZE) – ATP
[7] J Del Potro (ARG) vs B Paire (FRA) – ATP
[1] S Williams (USA) vs [14] D Cibulkova (SVK) – WTA
[4] D Ferrer (ESP) vs P Kohlschreiber (GER) – ATP
Not Before 7:00 PM
J Janowicz (POL) vs [9] R Gasquet (FRA) – ATP


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200 Comments for Murray Retires In Rome; Federer v Simon, Nadal v Gulbis Thursday

grisham Says:

They are in Rome, no?


Kimberly Says:

You mean Rome not Madrid in the first line? These masters back to back are starting to run together for me too.

On a lighter note, in a win ugly performance, the heat have eliminated the hobbled bulls to gontobthe eastern conference final where I doubt they will have it easy unless the knicks pull off a miracle. Then they would sweep the series.


skeezer Says:

^Yes too many too close Clay/Mud Tournies. Like…WHY? One tournament feels like the last.
Bring on the Grass. We need more Grass! Mooooooo….

@K, Not to jinx the Heat, but c’mon, whoever they meet in the final they will sweep, or just lose one. Enjoy the ride! Heat are going to ignite again this year…..


skeezer Says:

When Gulbis has the game to be patient, but at the right time aggressive, he’ll never have a chance against Rafa. You have to prove you can be patient and hit your shots deep to the baseline against Rafa. Keep your shots deep. Then when the short ball comes, and it will come, then you have to have the gonads to be aggressive and take control of the point and finish it ( AKA NOLE ).

A big serving game in the match will obviously help.


Tom Gainey Says:

I fixed the typos and added a funny Gulbis interview from 2010 just before he played Rafa at Rome.


skeezer Says:

Wow that was messed up.

“When Gulbis has the game to be patient, but at the right time aggressive, he’ll never have a chance against Rafa. ”

Needs to say

“Gulbis Needs to have the game to be patient, but at the right time aggressive, or he’ll never have a chance against Rafa.”


Kimberly Says:

Gulbis in with a chance for sure. He can beat anyone. Unfortunately he can also lose to anyone.


skeezer Says:

^lol so true


Kimberly Says:

Originally I thought the thunder would get eliminated in 6 or 7 by Memphis but now I’m thinking they may go down tonight in 5.


Humble Rafa Says:

Cleveland Traitor won again. World is fair, justice will come eventually.


Michael Says:

Both seem to be interesting matches. I think the chances of an upset in Roger Vs Simon is greater than Nadal Vs Gulbis. Roger always has problems with Simon and he is a bad match up for him. He struggles against him for some reason. If he gets through this it would give him a great amount of confidence, but I am not sure about it ? It would be a tough three setter anyway. As regards Nadal Vs Gulbis, well Gulbis gave him a big scare at Indian Wells. He has the game to beat Nadal. But whether it will be possible on Clay is the question ? I think Nadal will ease through in straight sets with one tough set. If Gulbis wants to give a scare, he should serve well. But that is easier said than done against Rafa especially on Clay.


Michael Says:

As regards Andy, what I suspected happened ? He withered against Granollers with one set all and has to forefeit due to phyiscal problems. Well Murray had an woeful Clay season best to forget. I think he is a novice on Clay and that strikes away the greatness quotient out of him. If you are not able to play on all courts, you cannot be labelled as a great player. Andy still has time to come good on these courts. He should adapt to different conditions just like Rafa who was predominantly a Clay court player when he came to the circuit and the way he transformed himself as an all court player is worthy of emulation to the rest in circuit. He should definitely take tips from his good friend Rafa on this.


Sean Randall Says:

Tom, thanks for the assist.

I was writing the post while watching the Heat finish off the Bulls. Kimberly, with teams left in the playoffs, I’ll say that Rafa loses more sets at the French Open than the Heat lose games the rest of the playoffs!

Maybe they drop one in the next round v. the Pacers and another in the finals against Memphis.


gonzalowski Says:

Come on Memphis, Come on Marc!
:-)


harry Says:

To Murray fans: There is a little more in this link (from Telegraph)
http://tinyurl.com/ag2f3zv

It seems to be the same issue that he has had over the last two seasons [lower back]. He says it is a clay-specific problem [because he has to have a bigger upper body rotation to generate power on clay].


harry Says:

^— i wonder if Andy started having these back problems after he bulked up in 2011?


alison Says:

I have to say i disliked the OTT celebration from Janowitz against JWT,Joe to his credit behaved with alot of class with a handshake and a hug,i think hes a talented player but i hope Gasquet brings him down a peg or two,the way Dimitrov and Nishikori simply smiled and shook hands when they beat Novak and Roger respectively last week, showed how young and mature they are behaving with class and dignity,some of the younger players like Janowitz have alot to learn.


rafaeli Says:

^^^Janowicz is emulating Djokovic so don’t blame it on being young.


Margot Says:

@Michael
Connors, Sampras, Mac never won RG. Would u not consider them “greats.”
@alison
Agree re JJ and feel he over celebrates on points too. Wonder if it’s a British thing. U know we don’t like people who get too big for their boots, do we?
I personally love the way Andy under celebrates, even after winning a Grand Slam, but I know it’s not to everyone’s taste.
@ harry
dunno re bulk but feel it’s more that movement on clay aggravates his knee/patella problem.


queen Says:

Just watched Janowicz “celebration” lol
Wybaczcie Polakowi bo jeszcze mlody i glupi:-D


Daniel Says:

Wow! The oont Gulbis won to close 3-0 lead was unbelievable from both players. Gulbis not making any mistakes when attacking and this took Nadal by surprise. He is going for the shots and this 3-0 lead was with 40-0 and 40-15 games. Nadal just win 3 points in the match so far.


Daniel Says:

Jeshhh. Right nNadal Gulis is rolling over Nadal. Is not like Djoko’s where a lot of games when to deuce.


queen Says:

Well knowing Gulbis’ inconsistency he will crumble sooner or later.


Daniel Says:

Some unusual forehand mistakes from Nadal as well. Maybe is the oace of Gulbis shots. 4-0 and no game went to deuce so far.


Alex Says:

King of Clay looking like a rabbit with a bad foot.

#RAbifoot+ouch-Sad bunny fans.


Daniel Says:

Dump day as well! Remember A discussion I had with Brandomwhen I said Nadal doesn’t like this dump over slow conditions where it deny his spin and guys like Gulbis, Soderling has more time to swiong away.


Daniel Says:

20-7 in points. 5-0 Gulbis. Flawless performance from him in under 20 minutes


Daniel Says:

Nadal first game point after saving a set point and clay bagel


Daniel Says:

Gulbis is now hammering returns. 2 returns winners in this game alone


Daniel Says:

Nadal saves a bagel. 5-1 Gulbis with Nadalnp shouting Vamos!!
Let’s see how Gulbis react serving the set. 1 ace already


Alex Says:

If he loses where will he be seeded for RG?


the DA Says:

Wow, can’t quite believe what I’m seeing. At least Rafa prevented a bagel. I thought Gulbis would be dangerous, but let’s remember – it’s Gulbis. Anything can happen.


Humble Rafa Says:

Messed up day for me. Hoping to turn things around.

Gulbis can lose this. Trust me.

Miss those days selling bagels and breadsticks, and beating up midgets


Alex Says:

Ndal using his usual tactics to slow down the game..Pathetic..


Daniel Says:

Gulbis is hitting FH at 160 KMH. His average shot is 132, while Nadal is 117. He came to play today;-)


contador Says:

Daniel – it is the way Gulbis should be playing all these years!! Go Gulbis!

I don’t think EG can keep this up. He sort of took Rafa by surprise :D


Humble Rafa Says:

All is fair in love and clay court matches. Time for a MT.


the_mind_reels Says:

Gulbis has been known to melt down. Also, he’s been known to just keep going for broke and have it work in the 2/3 set format. Curious to see which guy shows up today.

I’m not watching the match, but my sense is that there’s very little Nadal can do in these kinds of matches since he’s not dictating play. All he can do, I suppose, is just try to weather the storm, grind it out, and hope Gulbis starts to implode.


contador Says:

The mind reels…

That was one fine set of tennis, that 1st set!

Gulbis is not a fanboy of the big 4! lol

But I do expect order to be restored at any time.


Ben Pronin Says:

This is why no one should make fun of Gulbis’s forehand.


the_mind_reels Says:

Nadal is winning a lot more of his second serve points in this second set, which is probably the only thing keeping him in it at the moment…


contador Says:

How ironic that the Rafa fans cant stand Jerzy’s celebrating!

The thing that always annoyed me more than anything was Rafa’s over celebrating after every point in his hay day = that knee up vamosing was like nails on a chalkboard. Rafa you do realize is was overcelebrating is legend!

At least Jerzy and Nole dont rip their shirts after every winner.

Gulbis is going to lose it, pretty sure, I think,


contador Says:

Turning point. Rafa gets the break


queen Says:

Nadal grabbed Gulbos by the throat now hopefully he will not let go. Choke him Rafa choke him!!!


contador Says:

Gulbis breaks back! Well it was a lucky net cord but…

Now EG has to hold. I’m guessing Ernests head is a bit spinning – calm Ernie, be calm…oh brother I didnt expect this, this morning.


Ben Pronin Says:

Gulbis should’ve let Nadal serve it out if he was just gonna get broken again. Now Nadal serves first, not good for Gulbis.


contador Says:

I remember this “i break you, you break me” nervous exchange when Gulbis beat Federer – not that I expect Rafa to lose.

Lots of work to be done, Far from over, this match.


contador Says:

It is all about Gulbis finding some calm confidence now.I had been thinking Gulbis could win but mentally he would crack –

Rafa is back now.


contador Says:

oh no. Gulbis is going to get mad at himself in 3, 2, 1…


contador Says:

Well that was fun for awhile :D

It is a good match up though; as good as any out there right now, Gulbis v Rafa.


Humble Rafa Says:

Some Frenchie is thinking if a head case like Gublis can do this….


skeezer Says:

“Choke him Rafa choke him!!!”

@queen…u crack me up! ;)

_____

Not watching, but the Rafa fans must be biting nails, sweating, whispering chants under breath of “vamos, vamos, vamos”.

Remember, its only a game. And not in Spain.


the DA Says:

What’s up with that funky FH of Gulbis? Must be the ugliest stroke I’ve ever seen hit. Soderling’s FH was pretty funky but this wins.


van orten Says:

we all know what nole will do to rafa very soon!!!!


grisham Says:

I personally love the way Andy under celebrates

Margot, he fist-pumps and come-ons after every point and his opponents errors. Don’t you ever listen during a match?


skeezer Says:

Anyone seen a Rafa fan? Where oh where are they? Wait..theres a rock….Is there something under there?


queen Says:

Where have u been hiding skeeze…first post from u…must be praying for Rafa to lose


skeezer Says:

@queen,

You didn’t see my earlier post? ;)


van orten Says:

talking bout overcelebration hahaha


Alex Says:

Bad Winner


Giles Says:

VAMOS KING!
Nice try Gulby. Close but no cigar!!


skeezer Says:

Just turned it on to see that. Guess the Anti Nole/Murray/Whoever else not Rafa over celebrating train just stopped.

Congrats to Gulbis for playing another tough match against a top 4 opponent. BY the score, he must have played well. BUt again, how can you hit so many winners and lose? By Rafa’s stats, seemed like he won mostly by keeping the ball in play. A typical Rafa win.


Giles Says:

Yeah skeezer the geezer. Rafan here. Happy for the win, no?


Margot Says:

Well played Rafa. A good win. That was SO tricky. :) Gulbis’ backhand is amazing.
@queen
No, he doesn’t. Don’t you ever watch him? Think you’ve obviously you’ve been watching a different player from me.


Jimmy Says:

8.5 months off can sure make you rusty.


Giles Says:

Two months off can make you even more rusty!! #AkaFed


Brando Says:

BREAKING NEWS:

Regular Tennis X poster Contador has just committed suicide by the way of jumping off the street curb after seeing Rafael Nadal stage another comeback in a match which many hyena’s who wish for him to fail were expecting him to lose.

Latest we have from the ER room is:

Doctor: ‘she’ll be fine. She’s just chipped her front tooth. She’s been advised to quit being a sore butt hurt hater and told that there is more to life than hating on Rafael Nadal’.

The newsroom shall bring more on this developing story for now the show goes on for one Rafael Nadal, and the hyena’s await another day.

VAMOS RAFA!


Alex Says:

^
Novaks coming!


Brando Says:

^Speaking of hyena’s!


Kimberly Says:

I actually like when Murray celebrated a little more when he was younger, like in the Gasquet match in Wimbledon 2008. He has become more muted. I guess as a Rafa fan I like celebratory behavior it shows fight. I like Serena’s come ons (the one Sloane finds disrespectful).

@Brando—I have had a very cordial relationship with Contador online since 2010. She is not a Rafa hater, just not a fan. I know you guys don’t get along, but she does have a lot of respect for Rafael Nadal. She loves Gulbis and was a major fan for awhile until he disappointed her one to many times. You are both good people and should try to lay your differences to rest.


Alex Says:

^^

What does that make Giles?

Your Pet?


Steve 27 Says:

Is funny all the pathetics fans of the clown and the grandpa are imploding, praying to Nadal to lose. Hahaa. We know in clay is all against Rafa. Is not a surprise. But you know why: Is not going to happen. Vamos! for an 8 RG and more whining for them.


contador Says:

Thanks Kimberly!

You do know me and you are exactly right. I appreciate you coming to my defense in this case very much, my friend.


Kimberly Says:

@Sean—I think the Heat will have a very physical series against the pacers but win. And against Memphis as well. But lets see. Memphis is a tough match up, tougher than the thunder even with westbrook.


Brando Says:

@Kimberly:

I like you as a poster, so I’ll take heed to your suggestion.

It just pi!!es me off when Rafa get’s jumped on here- which is alot of the times.

How many Novak fans do you see posting during Rafa’s match?

How many Rafa fan’s were posting during it?

It’s just the usual suspects- the haters- who were there seeking to see Rafa fail.

As they do always and right on cue when their is a shaky moment for Rafa.

I don’t mind if Rafa isn’t the fav of other’s, but the hate is just ridiculous at times around here.

They should use their time and energy to root for their fav- NOT waste their time talking the usual BS re Rafa.

What’s that old adage:

If don’t have anything good to say then don’t say anything.

In this case, IF you don’t like a player then:

1- Don’t watch his matches and then !!tch about him

2- Don’t pay attention to him

Simple enough really isn’t it?

Of course, if you have deep rooted hatred for a player then it isn’t a simple thing to ignore them.

Clearly the case with a few resident poster’s here.


nadalista Says:

Ernie Gulbis is a much better proposition than Baby Fed, Raonic, Tomic and all those other imposters. Well done, Son, A for effort. Too bad you ran into the Master. Ernie brought his A++ game, the Master only brought his B game and only circled for the kill last 2 games of the match.

Typical Rafa…

Next, Ferru!

Vamos!!!


contador Says:

Brando, this may come as a surprise, but it not all about you and your needs.

Try some comprehension skills once in your life.


nadalista Says:

For those who care to know, we Rafans do not concern ourselves with middling Round of 16 matches, no need to come here waste time when we know the outcome. Ernie has always taken a set off Rafa, no biggie there.

However, reading the posts, there are people who stayed up hoping for an upset. As expected, they were disappointed. Cheer up, haters, there is always a next time to sit up and hope for Rafa’s demise…

Heck, tune in tomorrow although I must warn you…..


contador Says:

Nadalista, anyone who knows me at all knows I cheer for Gulbis even vs Federer :D


Kimberly Says:

@Brando+Contador—-As I said, I know Contador well through the brackets to know she is more a tennis fan than a fan of any player, certainly not a Fed or Djokovic fan hating Rafa. We have had great discussions on the early days of the ATP brackets during matches between lesser players i.e DeBakker v. Wawrinka you get my drift.

Contador likes the early round matches between lesser known players and likes to see less domination on the tour, and more great matches between lots of players. SHe watches challengers and roots for the challengers to beat the big guns. While she used to be a Federer fan, once Federer won the French open she began to root for other players to have opportunity. She was torn in being happy for Soderling when he beat Federer in 2010 FO and ended is QF and sad that Feds streak ended. She would love nothing more than to see Gasquet or Simon win the French Open (she often supports Frenchies)She wants to see players outside the top four get deep in grand slams and masters and get titles too.

I hope this view of the person I have come to know over three years can help you understand her and two posters I like can repair the rift.


contador Says:

And now my man Jerzy is at bat!


Ben Pronin Says:

Wow, Brando, crossing the line much?

Gulbis played great. There was no way to maintain that hot streak, though, especially against Nadal. And he hasn’t been in that tight situation enough to know how to deal. How dissimilar was this match to the Monte Carlo final? Not much, imo. Except Novak knows how to win when it’s close due to experience. It’d be cool to see Gulbis get there but it’s a little unlikely.

Kimberly, I’d like to think that the Pacers won’t take cheap shots like the Bulls did. I think it’ll be a 6 game series like last year. Big question mark is Wade.


Brando Says:

@The despicable one:

Ooh that hurts!

And here I was thinking it was just like that: me and my needs.

Gosh, I most have been wishing for too much.

And comprehension skills?

Showing zero tolerance to your BS is more than reason enough to think such skills are in fine form.

What about you and your needs though?

The craving for any opportunity to be a petty hater towards Rafa.

To talk nonsense about him time and time again like a old, broken record.

Does it get tiresome- ever- to just continue !!tching about him?

My apologies though if you get some joy out of doing this.

If so, then please continue !!!ching about Rafa.

This poster will put on his blinder’s to your infantile hate.


contador Says:

Very well said Kimberly! you do remember me!

I love you! xxoo


skeezer Says:

@Brando,

I don’t see anyone here “praying” for Rafa to lose on this thread. All I saw here when logged on was “Choke him Rafa choke him!!!” and not too much love by Rafans about Jerzy’s celebration, which was laughable after seeing Rafa’s celebration.

And then you dump On contador, not knowing she is like the only big fan of “Wild Thing”, assuming she is a Rafa hater.

Then you decide to take it out on everyone and whine your way of it on the “My poor Rafa routine”. Pathetic? Nah, just Brando.


contador Says:

Brando please do not reply to my posts when you are so unstable okay.


Jimmy Says:

I’ve always been a big Rafa fan, he is just not my favorite player. The Nadal fans are so intolerant of discussion and so obnoxious at times (some of them anyway) that it ruins enjoying his matches. Maybe they should wonder why they have such a strong need to live vicariously through his victories.


Brando Says:

@Kimberly:

Sorry, but it seems like its too late.

It’s already on like donkey kong between us two.


Humble Rafa Says:

You are welcome. It was my pleasure.


contador Says:

Brando, I could care less about what you think and who you are. Nothing is on like donkey kong. There is nothing in me other than pity for you. Just ignore me and scroll.

I would plead to moderators to moderate your craziness but that isn’t the way of tennis-x, to moderate. Please moderate yourself


Brando Says:

@Skeezer:

Knock it off Skeez, seriously.

It’s embarrassing seeing such a post from a seasoned hater like you.

Your the biggest diva here.

Period.

You most comfortably be the senior most poster here and yet you act like a adolescent in your mud slinging matches with other poster’s regarding Rafa.

Pathetic- your the definition of it around here with your 2 faced behaviour.

Your a kiss a!!s my friend.

You play up to certain posters but even they are not blind to your obvious, consistent hate for Rafa.

What’s a regular, trusted event on TX?

The whining, !!!ching of that old diva Skeezer regarding Rafa.

Show some respect to yourself and knock off this pretentious sermon of your’s regarding matter’s re Rafa.

We know your usual take- stick to it as anything outside just seems false coming from a diva like you.


Brando Says:

@Contador:

Hey, my post was for the despicable one- what compelled you to reply to it as if you are the despicable one?

And pity?

LOL, are you being serious now?

A petty poster like you is capable of empathy?

LOL, utter rubbish.

Try another line!


Giles Says:

Hey Brando. Welcome back. Don’t disappear again please .
:-)))


contador Says:

Brando, it would also be nice if you would not use my moniker, Contador, for your insults.

Please refer to me as Elizabeth when insulting me, since Elizabeth is my real life name.

And I doubt very much if you met me in real life that you would do anything other than blush at your bad behavior of the past recent months.


courbon Says:

Hi Brando, welcome back!It was a close shave for Rafa, wasn’it?Well, congratulations on great come back as we have seen it many times.I hope Novak and Rafa meets in Semis-can’t wait (if happens, Novak has Bedrych tomorrow…)


Brando Says:

@Giles:

Sorry but I probably will.

I came here spontaneously thinking:

That was a close match for Rafa, I bet the hyena’s were out in force wishing for his downfall with this one.

And boom- right on cue like a Japanese train they were here, out in force and singing the same old sermon.

The usual crap you expect from them: and they live up to it!


Humble Rafa Says:

I don’t lose close ones, especially on clay.

Just some advice to my new haters.


Ben Pronin Says:

You guys are ridiculous. Whatever happened to enjoying a good old-fashioned classic? Gulbis and Nadal played a great match. And credit Gulbis for fighting as hard as he could even when falling back breaks. But it’s not just that it’s clay, Nadal is just too tough in these situations. He knows how to step on the gas better than almost anyone.

I hope Gulbis plays and wins some smaller events in the summer. I’d like to see his ranking go up so that we can get these matches from him in the quarters/semis.


Giles Says:

http://alturl.com/tp3x4
And this was Rafa’s celebration. Did he rip his shirt? Nooooo too classy!
Vamos King!!
@Brando. Stick around.


Brando Says:

@Elizabeth:

What a lovely, dear name that is.

Well Elizabeth, I’ll cut you a nice deal:

I’ll take it easy with you and be all hospitable if you pipe down on your BS re Rafa.

It’s a simple trade, a good one i think, and the balls in your court.

Play it how you want.


contador Says:

amd the good tennis continues!

Gasquet v Janowicz


Giles Says:

Ben Pronin. Not going to happen. He likes his off court life too much!


Ben Pronin Says:

Didn’t realize Nadal plays Ferrer next. Can’t say I’m not entirely bored by the prospect. Another beat down or another close escape? The Djokovic-Nadal semifinal is too mouth watering to care.


Ben Pronin Says:

Giles, what are you talking about? Gulbis said he stopped drinking, smoking, and partying as hard. He won in Delray, he can just as easily win in Washington or Los Angeles.


Brando Says:

@Courbon:

Hey, it’d great to see a ace poster like you once again.

Yep: It was real close call, and TBH Ernie was just firing scarily today.

Was thinking of tuning out at 0-5: thankfully i did not.

And like you I wish to see a Rafa v Novak clash here.

IMHO: Rafa needs a match with Nole more than the title or anything else here.

Just to gauge where he is at game wise.

I doubt Berdych will stop that from happening either.


van orten Says:

keep up with the good stuff skeezer haha


john Says:

This Janowicz guy, now this is the bad kind of celebration IHM.


Anna Says:

This match was a bit of a nail biter for Rafa fans, howevers, I was fortunate enough to be at IW this year when Rafa and Ernie played to the same outcome, so I had a “positive illusion” all along. I think Ernies best hope is to get Rafa in two. If it goes to three his chances are reduced significantly.

Contador – I’ve been around long enough to know that you relish in the Rafa bashing, particularly when there aren’t a lot of Nadal posters posting and you can really let loose. Your a chameleon, one day your just an innoscent non-fan of Rafas’ and the next your throwing dirt with the rest of the Bozos. I’d respect you more if you were just honest.

Alison – Your bending over backward to please Nadal bashers is obviously your choice, but consider that your sweet nature can sometimes be enabling. There are some who think they have your number, believe me.


John Says:

Sorry I don’t like Janowicz, Gasquet had break point(second set), hit a volley and won the point. Gasquet walks back to the chair thinking hes got the break, butJanowicz calls the umpire pointing to the wrong mark and gives the point to Janowicz!

This Umpire is pathetic.


John Says:

^
Janowicz acting more like a hooligan than a tennis player. Not impressed.


Humble Rafa Says:

Why isn’t everyone on this board well behaved like me?


Brando Says:

@Anna:

What a fabulous, spot on post you wrote there.

Re Alison:

You are right.

Alson is a nice poster, a charm really, but I have to admit that I do sometimes ask myself:

Why on earth is Alison bending over backwards towards the hyena’s who are just going to continue in their Rafa bashing anyhow?

Alison seems like a really nice individual- I just hope she extends her generosity to those who appreciate it and respond in kind.

Not be nice to a pack of haters who wouldn’t know generosity of spirit if it bite them where the sun doesn’t shine!

Re Contador/ Elizabeth:

Thank you, thank you and thank you.

You broke her shtick down elegantly there, only with one mistake:

She’s not a chameleon but rather facetious Rafa basher.

She takes great delight in his losses- far more so than say Skeezer.

Skeezer, to his credit, is not a phony: he is honest about how he feels regarding Rafa, and spit’s his venom when he feels like it.

Contador (or Elizabeth) is just the worst kind: a facetious, spiteful, petty hater who takes great glee in bashing on Rafa when time affords the chance but acts like an innocent when called out for her spiteful bashing.

She hates Rafa.

Period.

Consistently supports anyone who faces him- that’s fine.

But when all she does is have petty pot shots- one after another- at Rafa and then have the sheer nerve to pretend that it’s not hate: well excuse me, but that kind of facetious behaviour is absolutely annoying.

For me she’s the worst kind of poster:

A facetious, 2 faced, petty opportunist’s, who takes every possible chance to dig Rafa but when called out for it is all pretension and play’s the role of miss innocent.

Utter BS.

If you hate the guy at least be honest about it.

Don’t be a phony, facetious faker who fools no one except themselves!


contador Says:

You don’t know me Anna. You think you do but you dont.

Kimberly on the other hand does know me.


contador Says:

Oh please. Who do we have here in Brando and Anna?


contador Says:

Can we get back to tennis or is this a gossip site now?


Daniel Says:

LO< just realise my iPhone was on an old tthread and posted in the worng one. Here it goes:
Couldn’t watch last 2 sets. But looking by the score and some comments it was a great match. Nadal once again coming through, amazing really because by what I saw in first set it looked to be one straight forward match for Gulbis.

Ben is right,

He is one of the best when steping on pedal for second gear, and so far the only one who could match that second gear is Novak. Hope they meet in semis and Fed in final, just to spice things a bit. The only real clahs we had in this clay season was Nadal x Djoko MC. We need some more matches between the real top 3 contenders for RG (actually, top 2 with Fed as dark horse;-)


contador Says:

You cant help but think there is a shift just starting to happen in tennis when you watch Janowicz and Paire.


contador Says:

Brando do you watch any tennis apart from Nadal?


Kimberly Says:

tried to help and I seem to have made things worse not better!

Contador, I know you respect Rafael Nadal.

Anna, you addressed Allison but I think you meant me. I try not to fight with others and I consider myself as hardcore a Rafa fan as there is. I hate Soderlings guts to this day, have never liked Delpo since USO 2009, and control myself not to despise Djokovic like Fed fans hate Rafa. My pulse races during all of his matches when they are tight. I am in a good mood when he wins and a lousy mood when he loses. I watch most of his matches. I think he may not be the best tennis player in the world but the dude is a CHAMPION. He is a competitor. His competitive spirit is unmatched. While us fans get nervous and wishy washy he is a man of steel. I adore the guy.

In basketball I go on blogsites of other teams and attempt to provoke the fans under a variety of different names. But tennis is of a different nature and after three years I consider this blog home and have no desire to get in wars with different posters even if they support others or are unfair to my fav.

Now, some of the Novak fans get to me with their taunting, even ones I like, and the fed fans jumping on novak bandwagon, yes its funny. But Rafa has a large group of vocal supporters here. I certainly am capable of being more adversarial online but this site, my home base, is not a place I choose to do it.

While I may seem to be a pleaser, as I like to have discussion and friendships with fans of other players, I support Rafael Nadal. If anyone is mistaken about that, for the record, I am a HUGE RAFA FAN.


Brando Says:

@contador: do you endlessly watch Rafas matches for reasons other than spitefuly hope that he losses and the whine about your hate for him?


contador Says:

No I rarely watch Nadal’s matches but if he is playing Gulbis or when he plays this new phenom, Janowicz …I will be watching!

Kimberly thanks for trying. It is hopeless.


contador Says:

Janowicz is no doubt not for everyone to like –

He is scary


contador Says:

It is true I dislike Ferrer v Nadal. No interest whatsoever in watching and I don’t watch or post


John Says:

^^
Very scary :)

Feds looking in good shape early on…


contador Says:

Janowicz is loud,omg! Talk about Grunting.


Giles Says:

Oh no, the boring old f@rt is playing now.
Switch off tv promptly


John Says:

^^

I know its ridiculous.

Federer’s playing impeccable 6-1 20 minute first set.


Brando Says:

@Giles: LOL. He’s playing pretty well ATM.


steve-o Says:

Federer playing a very tactical match to break up Simon’s baseline rhythm. Working very well so far.


the DA Says:

Simon hardly missed a single ball last week, now he’s making silly errors. Fed looks good – not scary good – but better than he has for a while.


Ben Pronin Says:

Daniel, as soon as Rafa held at 0-5 and nearly broke Gulbis in the next game, I knew Gulbis was going to lose. But I’m wholly impressed by his fight, he really made Nadal earn it.

Like I said, not looking forward to Ferrer-Nadal at all. Especially after last week, it’ll be an absolute miracle for Ferrer to win. I’m more concerned about Berdych.


contador Says:

@ John

I think the one to be concerned about in the draw is now oficially Jerzy!


John Says:

^
I know, hope he doesn’t piss off Federer with his on-court antics. Should he Win.


John Says:

How many drop shot winners has Federer hit? Like 10..amazing.


Daniel Says:

How the draw makes a difference. This tounery could be Fed’s last chance of winning Rome. He will have to face only 1 of Djoko and Nadal which will probably do the later semis and who knows when that match can end. On a good serving day as he is showing this tourney so far he can beat them, even Nadal. But I fancyhis chances more versus Djoko who could be spent if beating Nadal in semis. His draw open up and he don’t have to face anybody who ever beat or treaten him till final. I know is e fan in me but wouldn’t it be great if all top 3 real contenders for RG share the masters, Djoko MC, Nadal Madrid and Fed Rome?!


steve-o Says:

Worked very hard for that insurance break, but he’s got it. Gotta love Simon’s scrappiness.


John Says:

^

Yes it would!


Daniel Says:

Most likelly Nadal will beat Djoko and Fed and enter RG sending a clear message that he is still the boss;-)


Daniel Says:

Another urgent match, loved how he come in to net when ever possible. Henis fresh, serving great and hope he can deliver in next match and be prepare because Djocal is a different level. Onto his first final of the season at least. Anything short with this draw is disaster


steve-o Says:

Drop shot winner count is 3 so far. Brilliant all-court play from Federer to force Simon off the baseline and disrupt his rhythm.


Wog boy Says:

I wish Ferrer can trouble Rafa but he will not. It will be two set easy sets win for Rafa.
Federer will tame Jerzy, pretty sure on that one, but it was (is) great run for Jerzy. He is here to stay.
Did anybody expect Paire/Granollers QF? I didn’t, I think Granollers will go through.
Nole/Berdych not easy to call. Hopping for my man go next gear up,Dolgopolov was good match but Nole is yet to reach top gear.
BTW, fid anybody noticed how strong (big) Berdych leggs became in last year or so. Maybe I didn’t pay attention before but I think they were little bit thiner.

Hi, Contador

You have Paire and Jerzy in the QF, not bad:)


van orten Says:

fed will blow him off the court.


volley Says:

^ didn’t you say that when he played nishikori?


steve-o Says:

Janowicz will be a more straightforward kind of opponent for Federer, even if the score ends up being closer than the last couple matches. Big serving and hard hitting Federer can handle very well.

Simon was always the trickier opponent, Federer had to really stick to his game plan and be very patient and methodical instead of yielding to the temptation to try to blast Simon off the court, which would have lost him the match.


John Says:

^
Very good post, could not agree more.


van orten Says:

no because i did not even watch madrid open-..volley


contador Says:

@Wog boy

Hi, this is good tennis! You probably remember me being impressed with Paire and the Serbian Open was it last year? I just remember we both were posting about him. Great to see him winning – I heard that he and Benneteau were having a go at each other verbally after their match yesterday. I’ll have to look for it on youtube. Benoit is all kinds of entertaining!

Jerzy takes the prize for loudest grunting… I cant tell if I like him or not yet. He has a lot of characteristics on court that turn me off about him but I love his fight. The man is the Beast of all beasts!!! lol

Frightening!


volley Says:

@ van orten

my mistake. i see you write that all the time. sometimes you predict correctly, sometimes not.


the DA Says:

@ contador – Agree with your views on Paire and Jerzy. His grunting turns me off though – he sounds like Lurch with a cough.
He is capable of some surprises but still blows hot and cold.


the DA Says:

Actually, put a bit of make-up on him and he looks a bit like Lurch:

http://needcoffee.cachefly.net/needcoffee/uploads/2011/10/ted-cassidy-lurch.jpg


Jimmy Says:

Nadal said he only works out 50 minutes a day now as opposed to 2 hours a day last year. He also said his knees still hurt. According to ESPN, don’t know how to post links on my new cell phone, lol.


Wog boy Says:

contador,

Yes, it was SO. I watched Paire until I switched to Rafa. It was nice match, he didn’t go crazy, kept his cool and won.
As for grunting, I think Berlocq has the worst one, it is like he is on death bed. Sorry I am driving, cannot post.


alison Says:

Contador/Skeezer Sorry it was me who brought up JJs celebration,as i say i do think its a bit OTT,having said that i do think Rafas celebration can be quite OTT sometimes too,also i wasnt a Rafa fan who was ducking out of posting as he was losing the 1st set,i actually didnt even see the match as i was working,real life sometimes gets in the way of my love of the beautiful game.


contador Says:

@ the DA

That is what I fear! lol…
But seriously, I was looking at pictures of Jerzy yesterday and he looks like clark kent with his glasses on then he morphs into frankenstein on the court!

Wog boy. Berdych’s thighs have been that huge for mm, at least 2-3 years…I notice these things :D

Novak will take care of him tomorrow – Berdych has not won a match vs Nole in years. I am just happy he doesn’t get Jerzy tomorrow. Federer has a pretty good record vs the giants but Jerzy is a particularly disturbing giant! el oh el…nervous laughing. For sure Feddy will have seen him play and hopefully be ready – yikes. Gasquet did not get a chance to exploit the big man’s weakness enough which is of course movement; but the Pole moves very well for a giant. Federer will need to be precise otherwise…Jerzy rules the day. Nothing to be done, really.

I hope Paire makes it past Granollers –


contador Says:

Berlocq’s grunt is but a whimper compared to Jerzy’s sonic grunt.

Hi alison. That was a good match – Rafa vs Gulbis! I didn’t think you were “ducking” and I was not trolling during the match – I cheer for Gulbis because of his talent, even though he is a brat.


Wog boy Says:

contador,

You are probably right, I guess I am not into man’s thighs;)


sienna Says:

Their is somekind of urgente in Feds game.
He wants to proeve something.
To make a deep run or even win the final would put hij back in slam contention.

He looks sharp and refreshed and I know fedfans are in for a #18 maybe 19.


alison Says:

Hi Contador unfortunatly i missed the match as i was working,and none of the old dears have sky tv,although i have recorded it so i will watch the match tomorrow,i agree in that EG is talented,hes pushed Rafa many times before,he was the only player to take a set of Rafa when Rafa won Wimbledon in 2008,its just his attitude i cannot stand,i dont think your a troll either,you have your favs like the rest of us,everyone has players they dont care for too,hardly the end of the world is it?


sienna Says:

Spelling kit is out of order.

But even the think rafafans should get it.


Ben Pronin Says:

I also hope Federer wins Rome.


M Says:

@Jimmy –

“The Nadal fans are so intolerant of discussion and so obnoxious at times (some of them anyway) that it ruins enjoying his matches. Maybe they should wonder why they have such a strong need to live vicariously through his victories.”

This FEDAL fan maintains that ALL fans of ALL players could use a little rigorous — and regular — self-examination on those issues.


skeezer Says:

@contador

the waters here are much rougher than they used to be. don’t get bullied off by Mrs. BottomLine.

your tennis fan talk is superb, and nice to see the blog mot over run with Rafa or Fed or whoever talk. Meep it comin

@wog boy

what about womens thighs?

@Kimberly

you speak up when u need to: re; Rafa. its all good.;)

@Fed
lay low a just pull out another Slam this year if u can. otherwise, just have fun. your sitting at the top of the aport for all time records. enjoy the good life.


Jimmy Says:

Fair enough M.


grisham Says:

Kimberly
No mention of Murray? Is it because he is no competition for Rafael?


El Flaco Says:

Poor Ferrer has to play Nadal again. I think it is very important for Nadal to get a good start and take any hope away from Ferrer that he can win. If Ferrer gets an early lead and senses Nadal is tired(mentally or physically) from the previous day then he could get enough confidence to finally beat him on clay.


El Flaco Says:

I enjoy watching Nadal and Gulbis play. It’s the machine vs the enigma.


Wog boy Says:

Skeezer Says:
@wog boy

what about womens thighs?

Well skeezer, where or who do you want me to start from?;)


the DA Says:

@ grisham – no competition? Andy bageled him (and won) the last time they played.


Steve 27 Says:

Murray should focus in Wimbledon. He has no business in RG. SW 19 is his biggest goal of his career and why waste time in a surface that he dont like?. The Championships means everything to him and in his mind he is already playing on the Centre Court.


harry Says:

@Tennis-x Admins:

I ask for something to be done with Brando’s post (May 16th, 2013 at 12:48 pm). Announcing somebody’s suicide [especially given the sentiments that he has been expressing afterwards] is offensive [true, he then goes on to state that only her teeth were damaged].

I am not judging him — just his post at that said time [not even all his posts after that]. Arguments and various name-calling have been part of this site [sometimes they are fun, and other times they are part of the fan frustration]; but this is a particularly offensive post.

I know that Ben did put in a few words and Kimberly and Skeezer did try to put things in perspective. Not only does he not show an iota of regret for that post, he continues merrily hurling further abuses [which by themselves are alright with me except for that post].

Brando was a reasonable and intelligent poster (around last year). I did enjoy his posts [Although I have not been regular reader over a 6 month period (from late last year to early this year) and I can understand that Brando and Cantador could have had differences].

Clearly most of us understand and appreciate the fun in trash-talking; while I don’t participate int he Fedal trash-talking I enjoy the trash-talking that Skeezer and Giles do. But that post of Brando’s is not trash-talking and it is not name-calling either. It is serious and I think something has to be done about it.

If he does not apologize to Cantodor for that post I ask for some action — either ban that moniker and the IP address from which he posts. I know different monikers can be used by the same user; also proxies can be used to get different IPs. But this would still be a message to him.


Anna Says:

Kimberley – I wasn’t referring to you at all. I’ve been reading your posts for three years now and you’ve never waivered in your fandom, and have been generous and honest with everyone. I admire that you rarely if ever find yourself in a defensive mode, and don’t feel the need to take pot shots at other players for the sake of riling fans. Nor are you clicky, gooey, or two faced. Just genuine. So no, I was not talking to you in my post.


Wog boy Says:

harry,

… and contador only fault was for openly cheering for Gulbis to win and Nadal to lose, I bet 65% of TX posters were doing the same, just didn’t post. That makes all of them (us) hyenas, but in that case that makes all Rafa fans who are cheering against Nole or Federer when they play somebody else than Nadal hyenas too. He/she was insulting Rafa fans, too. I am glad he/she came out of closet as a hater recently and contador recognized that in one of her posts, that is why he/she, or simply shim, is pissed off with contador. Good on contador.

BTW, you are too good! They should bottle your blood.


skeezer Says:

@harry

*applause*


Steve 27 Says:

is your day Berdych, if you dont choke, the balkan will lose.


Sean Randall Says:

Thanks Harry, we’ve been monitoring. They – Brando/Conty – are on notice.


skeezer Says:

Uh? conty on notice? WTF for?? If you need a reference for her, I’ m it.


Sean Randall Says:

On notice for quarreling.


Michael Says:

Margot,

Regarding your poser

Connors, Sampras, Mac never won RG. Would u not consider them “greats.”

Well, Connors won US Open twice on Clay courts even beating Borg and Mcenroe made a final at Rolland Garros where he lost to Lendl, a match he should have won pretty easily which he lost due to his frayed tempers on court to which he is always susceptible. They were definitely no push overs on Clay and were capable to play on all courts. So, Greatness can be definitely attributable to them. As regards Sampras, well in my lexicon, he is not a GREAT however others may deride me for that. He is simply not capable of playing on Clay courts.


grisham Says:

the DA Says:
@ grisham – no competition? …..
May 16th, 2013 at 8:19 pm

Are you answering for Kimberly? My question was specifically directed to her–unless YOU are Kimberly. Or are you mum Judy Murray now, protecting her boy?


harry Says:

Thanks Sean. I appreciate it.


harry Says:

@Wog boy — thanks!

@skeezer —
“conty on notice?”
Yes, it seems harsh on her. Although I agree with Sean that she continued quarreling afterwards, such bickering happen here all the time. So i too find it a little difficult to understand the notice issued to her. Anyway I would like to move on from this. Perhaps you (or Conty herself) make seek a clarification?


Margot Says:

Cheers Michael, though u will have upset some posters with your comment re Sampras….;)
Don’t consider Andy one of those all time “greats” by the way, but “great” for me, for sure. Mac would be my GOAT anyway, which certainly puts me out of any loop!
Andy is second tier if you like.


skeezer Says:

I want to quarrel with Sean. In a bad mood, my Warriors flamed out. Dang!


harry Says:

@skeezer:

“In a bad mood, my Warriors flamed out”

May be this will help?
http://tinyurl.com/yf3r9od


skeezer Says:

harry,

Thanks, very cool and appropriate for my sorrow ;)

There very young, lots of talent and hey, the Lakers are history! Lol. See them next year ;)

Besides, we all know the Heat are gonna take it, kinda like Rafa always on the Dirt.


harry Says:

^– :)


Michael Says:

Margot,

Well if saying the truth anybody can be offended, then so be it. How can you rate a man who did not make even one clay court final at Rolland Garros ? All that he has got to show is his win in Rome. But that doesn’t do justice to a great player if you like to be called as one. I have seen Mcenroe Vs Lendl at Rolland Garros final and believe me, I have never seen anyone serve with such ferocity and loop on clay courts like Mcenroe did that day. He simply played spectacular Tennis to upset the applecart of Lendl who at that time was chided as choker in slams. But then a line call and all hell broke loose. Mcenroe lost his way and Lendl won rather undeservingly as I would like to put it. If he had beaten Lendl on that day, history would have changed and Lendl would not have gone on to win 8 majors in his career. So, Lendl has a lot to than Mcenroe for. As regards Andy, well I too acknowledge that he is a fantastic player. But definitely he is a push over on Clay courts which is reason enough to dispute his greatness.


the DA Says:

@grisham – no, I wasn’t answering for Kimberly. Maybe I’m Rafa’s mother putting you straight. Hope that helps..


Margot Says:

^ Oh Michael, how lucky to see that Mac/Lendl match.
A memory to treasure :)
Mac was fire, Borg was ice, Ivan was iron.
Those were magic days.


Margot Says:

Lol the DA. Just seen your comment and alas…..snorted with laughter :)
Oh come on, u must be British!


the DA Says:

@ margot – hehe, sorry but the passport says ‘US Citizen’. Consider me an honorary Brit. After all, I spent years watching Monty Python, Not the Nine O’Clock News, the Victoria Wood Show, etc – some of it must have influenced my sense of humor.


Margot Says:

@the DA
Am writing to the old queenie to suggest such, right at this mo. Leave it with me….or do u think the clown prince would be a better bet?……..


the DA Says:

@margot – go with Brenda. The clown prince is probably busy talking to his plants.


Steve 27 Says:

Connors won only once in the green clay of the US Open, Michael.


grisham Says:

The DA:
Please tell us why you change your name so often. Is it because you’ve made such a rear end of yourself under one identity that you have to make up a new one and hope no one will remember?


the DA Says:

@grisham – please tell us what you’re smoking. I’d like some.


alison Says:

Anna @2.52pm March 16th, sorry but im not one of those fans who goes onto an internet forum looking for an argument,i only come here because i want to talk tennis,as believe you me i spend enough time doing that in the real world,i only try my best to be a fair and reasoned poster,i critique all the players including my favorite(s),if i think they deserve it,i also defend all the players including my favorites(s),again if i think they deserve it,its as i said to Steve O a few days ago i dont think any of them are perfect because theres no such thing,but i try my best not to sound too biased,judgemental or predjudiced when it comes to the players or other posters,if i defend Rafa too much im seen as a biased hero worshipper(which i am not),but if i dont defend him enough,then i get called a judas whos not a proper fan,therefore damned if you dont and damned if you do,so i try to find a balance,sorry but its difficult been pulled this way and that way,as i say i just want to talk tennis not engage in silly fan warfare.


Michael Says:

Steve 27,

Connors won once on Clay beating Borg and came to the finals yet again losing to Orantes and that too was on Clay at the US Open. I do not want to differentiate with colours. I call it clay courts whether they are blue, or green ?


Steve 27 Says:

And he lost to Vilas, too.

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