Djokovic-Berdych, Raonic-Monfils Friday In Canadian Open Toronto QFs; Americans Go 0-4

Djokovic v Berdych is pretty much like Sharapova / Williams in terms of been a rivalry, it might be a close match, but the outcome is always the same never the less ….

July 29th, 2016 at 9:17 am

@Willow..agree..and tomorrow the outcome will be pretty much the same..

July 29th, 2016 at 9:22 am

For BBB:

http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2016/04/22/saving-the-media-capitalism-crowdfunding-and-democracy/

July 29th, 2016 at 2:11 pm

The usual chokefest from Berdych..well..what can we expect from him!Nothing new..

July 29th, 2016 at 7:56 pm

There’s something bothering Nole,but even with this half hearted and troubled Nole..Berdych still can’t take advantage from it..

July 29th, 2016 at 8:40 pm

As I could see, Nole was emotionless during the match, just looked disinterested, he was giving this match to Berdych, but he refused to take it, and again he was serving badly with 50% serve and speed below his usual, particulary his second serve is as bad as WTA one. As I said on the other thread, this is well an truly Nole’s “B” game, but win is win and SF points will come handy.
Toronto masters is Milos to lose it.

July 29th, 2016 at 8:52 pm

J-Kath – just seeing this now. I live in DC, and the Washington Post has become a predominantly trashy newspaper. I like the idea of a new model to restore the prestige of the daily newspaper.

WB – I don’t think he was emotionless, but the left shoulder/arm seemed to bother him. He’s lucky, though, that Berdych was the opponent. Less than 50% first serves is not going to beat most people….

July 29th, 2016 at 9:12 pm

poor berdy. he couldn’t take his many, many chances tonight. disappointing match after the super fun novak-radek “symphony” last night. :) ah well, onward and upward. some very good tennis this week thus far. noobs like shapovalov; dimi finding some form; kei and stan living up to their seedings; and homeboy milos vs streaking gael on now, not to mention popsicle-nestor. haven’t had a chance to watch much of the ladies, alas. no time.

July 29th, 2016 at 9:16 pm

BBB, I’ve seen only last couple of games, so you are probably right. Yes, he keeps stretching that left arm in every match regularly.

July 29th, 2016 at 9:37 pm

Monfils is such a different player this year.

July 29th, 2016 at 9:58 pm

Yes with a weaker field he is way different.

July 29th, 2016 at 10:25 pm

what an incredible match by la monf. he’s so dialed in lately; what a shame he was injured after a great start to the season, too, but he seems to be picking up where he left off, and some. impressive!

July 29th, 2016 at 10:30 pm

BBB,

Haven’t you noticed the troll who is exclusively trolling Nole fans, he used to do excatly the same thing to Rafa (the GOAT owner) fans, he just keep stalking the people on TX, but to no avail, usually makes full of himself, willingly so.

One question for TX posters, who after is “Rogers Cup” named?
The prize is dinner voucher for two for the oldest German restaurant in Sydney “Rhinedorf German Restaurant” with Schweinehaxen (Pork knuckle roasted, with beer & herbs, served with sauerkraut, pan-fried potatoes & gravy), meal.

Bon appetite

July 29th, 2016 at 10:43 pm

Feel sorry for Berdych, Novak was there for the taking and yet he finds a way to lose. Novak?? No words. Terrible from him. His on court behaviour gives an impression that he doesn’t enjoy tennis anymore. Completely out of form.

July 29th, 2016 at 10:46 pm

Yes, WB.

I guess Milos is a weak player. Quite surprising that Federer lost to him at Wimby.

July 29th, 2016 at 10:50 pm

Anki, I thought he was out of form on the serve, but his groundstrokes, with the exception of a spate of long backhands, seemed fine. And he had some good volleys.

July 29th, 2016 at 10:52 pm

@Anki,

Don’t be so harsh on Novak.
He beat a solid Top 10 (Berdych is in Top 10 constantly since June 2010!!!) in straight sets…
If you call that “completely out of form”, then I pity his opponents when he is “fully in form”.

Novak has spoiled his fans, because even his 50% is still enough to beat most players today and his 100% creates humiliation on court (see AO 2016 semifinal, first 2 sets), but we should cut him some slack when he appears uninterested on court, especially after he wins in straight sets, and against Top 10 opposition.

July 29th, 2016 at 11:20 pm

BBB,
Agree, and surpassingly lost to Milos in Brisbane in two sets, without having one single BP, on his beloved very fast court with low bounce, court that was designed as a part of the condition to play Brisbane for one plus million dollars after Doha refused to pay him money he thought he is worth. He couldn’t handle that Nole (and Rafa) is worth and payed more than him to play Doha.

July 29th, 2016 at 11:31 pm

hi wog boy, rogers is a big telecommunications/wireless company in canada. they’ve sponsored the event since the early 2000s.

by the way, here’s a fun piece on how the tournament makes a strong effort to keep the player’s well fed. ;)

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/eh-game/how-the-rogers-cup-caters-to-the-top-players-191717176.html

July 29th, 2016 at 11:32 pm

Sorry for the overreaction. Serve is the only major concern, I agree. Looked like he lost confidence in his serve. Hopefully no injury issues.

July 29th, 2016 at 11:46 pm

Thanks jane,

You won the dinner for two in Rhinedorf restaurant, if you don’t mind German food, and if it happens that you come to collect your voucher in January there is a bonus, trip to Melbourne and visit AO, sounds good?:)

July 29th, 2016 at 11:50 pm

Dangit, I wanted to try pig knuckles.

July 30th, 2016 at 12:07 am

BBB,

You are very welcome too, my shout, Melbourne included too:)

July 30th, 2016 at 12:19 am

jane, the longest consistent true Nole fan speaks out about the Rogers Cup and its origins, which, despite the CON cult insults and innuendos, has nothing to do with Federer. Tell em jane. Enjoy your pork knucklers.
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BBB,
Milos? Fed is old. Alot of players should beat him nowadays. If they don’t it just proves more what a weak era we are in, no? Not a problem and expected. Not like a Querry in the early rounds knocking out the world number 1 in his prime in the most prestigious slam in history.
Live longer and healthier, stay away from pig knucklers.

July 30th, 2016 at 12:35 am

Or number #116 knocking out defending Wimbledon (most prestigious slam) champion, so called the GOAT, in the second round…what’s worse?

July 30th, 2016 at 12:58 am

Have a fish and chips..cold chips, and some cheap beer..just to let you know, unless it is marked differently there is all chances you are eating shark meat as “fish” and shark meat is rich with mercury which is damaging neurological system, which is very visible in your case..

July 30th, 2016 at 1:03 am

BBB

Washington Post…so historic…re. tricky Dicky. Pity they couldn’t find the same vigour and investigative skills to monitor dear Hillary’s emails….could have been their “biblical second coming.”

WogBoy
Mercury also in Tuna…found out after my metronome went awry…hope this explains “why it is very visible in my case..”

July 30th, 2016 at 4:06 am

For many of you high on the Fed kool-aid, here’s a write up at http://www.138mph.com/ that you’ll relish.

“Will Tennis Survive the Year Without Roger” and to quote some really funny ones from that article:

“A season without Roger. How is tennis going to survive. Among the grinders and the runners and the bashers, there was hardly anyone who contributed grace, poise and true beauty to the game. The person who did was Roger. And the person who is not going to be playing this season, is Roger.”

And, even though I am more of a fan of Djoko than Fed, I, however, found this very will written.

“Djokovic runs, Roger glides. Djokovic jumps, Roger flies. Djokovic hits, Roger just swings. Well, Roger fans be ready to survive the season on long baseline rallies, inhuman like body stretches, muscled balls, and just plain old tennis, because Roger always brought something new, whether it was a tweener winner from behind the baseline, or a beautiful backhand cross court.”

This is some cool, effortless writing. I hope this bloke can drum up something on my fav Stan the Man.

July 30th, 2016 at 4:15 am

JK,

Your visibility is very different..:)

Joking aside, I love seafood, and I am eating lot of seafood during six weeks lent period prior Christmas and Easter (we do have lent in those days, we are allowed to eat, but no food of animal origin, seafood excluded), and in Australia the law is that all sellers at fish market have to mark where from their seafood came from, seeing and knowing the way they farm fish and other seafood in Thailand, Vietnam… I buy only localy catch and produced seafood, Sydney rock oysters, Queensland tiger prawns, Tasmanian salmon..and so on, not tuna fan.

July 30th, 2016 at 5:29 am

Wogboy how dare you disrespect the great British classic fish and chips lol, although even if we took credit for it, it was actually the Jews that came up with it first ….

July 30th, 2016 at 5:41 am

Willow,

I would never disrespect British fish and chips (I just learned Jews invented it), there is good old fashion British fish and chips here, flathead or whiting, but no way I’ll eat “flake” which is shark meat and no fish, firstly it is not healthy and secondly they are decimating shark population for no reason, but ordinary people don’t have a clue when they buy it.
I was talking about other fish and chips…served with cold chips..and that’s insult for old fashion British fish and chips..

July 30th, 2016 at 5:55 am

^COD In batter delicious ! , never had pork knuckle, i dont fancy it somehow, but i love roast pork with crispy crackling, pork chops, pork steaks all delicious, i now feel very hungry ^ ….

July 30th, 2016 at 7:05 am

Wogboy:

A fresh-fish/seafood Van whips thru all the towns and villages in my area – apart from a few frozen stuff it is all Scottish.. I buy for 4 evening meals per week. There’s ports, harbours all around us. Magic!

July 30th, 2016 at 7:06 am

And i always care about my food and how its reared, so for that reason i wont eat anything thats treated cruelly while it was alive on principle, its more expensive but i try to eat organic ….

July 30th, 2016 at 7:09 am

JK,

That sounds…well, yummy and really fresh, and that’s what matters. I didn’t have a chance to see Scotland, it was on my bucket list for last year, but due to circumstances I did Ireland and before I had a chance to go across to Scotland I had to cut my trip short and go back to Belgrade and then Sydney. I loved the taste of seafood in Ireland, salmon was great so I believe Scotish seafood should be much the same. I might drop this year in Margot’s beloved Wales for a few days in October so will try their seafood, but Scotland is still on top of my bucket list. If I am to get their, I am inviting all of you for a drink, whichever town in Wales I will be (yet to be decid).

July 30th, 2016 at 7:34 am

Skeezer, here’s the rub for you on weak era. Federer said himself that the tennis he played in 2015 was better than the tennis he played a decade earlier. Yet Djokovic wiped the floor with him in consecutive majors.

I’ve said I don’t buy weak era/strong era, but if you do, gosh, it seems like you agree with cf. Federer in his prime couldn’t beat Djokovic in his. I mean, if we accept Federer’s own assessment of his game.

Now, remind me who Federer lost to after he won majors in a row?

July 30th, 2016 at 8:20 am

^4 majors in a row, natch ;)

July 30th, 2016 at 8:21 am

Wogboy

You’ll have signal your dates….you won’t need Morse code, I’m sure it will be headlined in the newspaper….perhaps via that photo of you standing proprietorially in front of Novak!!!!

Willow: Me too…however, I have to close my eyes to fish squirming about in the boxes. However, there is supposed to be pain in vegetables picked, e.g. cauliflower.

July 30th, 2016 at 9:30 am

“Federer said himself that the tennis he played in 2015 was better than the tennis he played a decade earlier. ”
How does this prove or dis prove a weak era?
BBB, it is well known I do not believe weak era in Tennis, Just like to point out the obvious debunk now of it all now and then(weak eras).
“Federer in his prime couldn’t beat Djokovic in his”
Careful there, Fed did beat Djoker in his prime.

July 30th, 2016 at 9:39 am

It strongly reinforces the argument that Federer’s era was weaker than the current era, as Federer’s better today than he was then and – in fairness to your point I will be more precise – is not #1 nor has been in donkey’s years (2012?)/loses in majors to Djokovic/has a losing H2H with him etc. To my mind, it’s actually much better for Federer fans to steer clear of any weak era discussion, because that’s what’s used to diminish the 17 majors. I don’t agree with that – 17 majors won is 17 majors won, I’m not interested in who he beat to get there.

Your comment about weak era was a non sequitur. We were talking about Monfils beating the Wimbledon semifinalist. So I’m not sure what you thought you were debunking, nor why you would direct it at my comment, when I made it clear yesterday in my exchanges with you that I don’t buy weak era either.

I actually have no interest in slagging Federer’s achievements (my grievance with him is the hype of his graciousness, which is exaggerated), but when you gratuitously introduce a weak era argument into a discussion for no reason, you open the door.

July 30th, 2016 at 10:16 am

^ finalist.

I need more coffee this morning.

July 30th, 2016 at 10:17 am

“It strongly reinforces the argument that Federer’s era was weaker than the current era”
“I’ve said I don’t buy weak era/strong era,”
Which one is it?
I’ve made my claim years ago about weak era, and as this era matures you can twist it as well 9 times till Sunday to justify it the same way! Weak era does not apply to this Game. You cannot choose what era you play in, you just have to play with the cards that are dealt, and the records you build from there are CEMENTED in history, theres is no “asterisk”. I just point out, regardless if its Nole being dominant or Fed, or Rafa or Murray, what a fruitless argument it can be.
I need another cup of Jo myself ;)

July 30th, 2016 at 10:24 am

“Which one is it?” Physician, heal thyself. You don’t believe it, yet you’re the one who introduced it into a discussion about how well Monfils is playing at the moment.

I can’t be any clearer than this: Fed fans would do well to stay away from weak era arguments because those arguments hurt Fed more than Djokovic. So, if you were wise, you would limit yourself to rebutting CF, and not opening the door for people like me – who accept Federer’s 17 unreservedly – to explain to you why that argument ultimately cuts against you.

July 30th, 2016 at 10:46 am

BBB,
It cuts against ALL players, and is insultive to their achievements. I’ll continue to be a thorn on the subject if others try pit it against Fed.

July 30th, 2016 at 11:35 am

Yes, skeezer – that’s exactly what you should do.

Which is why I don’t understand why you did it here, which had nothing to do with Fed.

July 30th, 2016 at 11:52 am

wog boy, i’d love to come to melbourne for the AO; unfortunately i can’t take time off at that point in the year but maybe someday.

July 30th, 2016 at 1:12 pm

“BBB Says:
Yes, skeezer – that’s exactly what you should do.

Which is why I don’t understand why you did it here, which had nothing to do with Fed.”

Perhaps the explanation could be lack of logical reasoning and lack of intelligence in general, as demonstrated on these pages numerous times… Just a thought.

July 30th, 2016 at 1:28 pm

@Laver Rules,

Be careful with that name man! Fed princesses here won’t like it because the right to rule is determined by a single metric, i.e. number of slams. And going by that, your 11 slams renders you inconsequential in collective minds of Fed princesses. This applies for all Federinas, the obvious ones with Beavis&Butthead vocabulary (e.g. skeezer, marcus, madmax) and to less obvious ones with vocabulary filled with bunch of uppity SAT terms (e.g. MMT).

Number of slams is the ONLY criterion, and thus Laver does not rule! Grand Slam, 4 in a row, pffftt… who cares, that’s nothing. The article you linked explains it the best – “…there was hardly anyone who contributed grace, poise and true beauty to the game. The person who did was Roger…”

July 30th, 2016 at 1:40 pm

AndyMira your missing Rafa, Roger, Andy, but that certainly doesnt mean because of that you must hate Novak, so youve said nothing you have to apologize for, everyone else here says whatever they want so why shouldnt you ?, believe me i spent years here trying to be nice trying to be fair, and i still do on the fair bit anyway, but people here are not intersted, they believe what they want in the end ….

July 31st, 2016 at 5:35 am

Willow..thanks for understanding..first of all i want to say again..i am a big fan of the big four..to me they came in one package..just like a…quadruplets twin..i can’t separate them even i want to..and i won’t..i love,respect and appreciate them very much Willow..and i want to appreciate them as much as i can while i still can..it’s not long now before Roger and Rafa will hang their racket..it’s only 2 or 3 years and then we’re going to lose them forever..as for Novak and Andy..even though they maybe got 5 or 6 years but as you’re already know..that is not a long time Willow..it will arrive in just a short time because time flying so quick now..

You wanna know why i said sorry to TB at the end of my thread?To me,TB is like a fire..a very scary smart and intelligent fire..so it’s my job to be a water or ice to calm down a fire immediately..if we confront fire with fire..God knows..you can already imagine the outcome from it willow..it will turn from a candle light dinner to a blazing and deadly inferno in just a second..and the only left is our ashes and burnt bone!

And Willow,you’re the strongest and brave women i’ve ever known on this site..you.ve been criticized,humiliated,insulted,slashed,slammed that sometimes i just want to drop to the floor and weep because of the unfairness that was hurled at you..and yet you keep coming back with pride because you love this site and some posters very much..i’m very proud of you willow..i know i can’t be like you..you’re amazing willow and i can’t help but admire you from afar..

July 31st, 2016 at 6:32 am

Thanks AndyMira i like you very much too, i just dont think you said anything that needs apologizing for, you told it like you see it, you appreciate all the players especially the top 4, but you also miss your favorites when they are missing, and youve found certain matches boring thats your perogative, where as other posters probably enjoyed them and thats theirs, we are all different, doesnt make us haters, i wont mention other posters here, as i dont want another acid bath, but its entirely your choice whom you interact with, anyway im about to go away camping so ill speak when i get back, Novak in two easy sets IMO, PEACE TO ALL TENNIS-X POSTERS ;-)) ….

July 31st, 2016 at 7:53 am

And Really hope Okies ankle heals soon too, all the best dear friend ;-)) ….

July 31st, 2016 at 8:07 am

Willow..oh how i wish we could talk in private setting..sometimes we wanna say something that’s not suitable to say here..and this moment is one of those times..anyway enjoy your camping willow and comeback here with fresh physical and mind okay?PEACE Y’ALL!

July 31st, 2016 at 8:32 am

@Willow…..thanks to my friend across the vast pond! My foot is really really better this morning….heck I think I could cut a rug if I had a willing partner!! LOL

July 31st, 2016 at 10:01 am

@Willow……have a good trip and enjoy yourself! Missing Byron so much…..this was the time we vacationed. My traveling days are over……so it seems….but I am like the song Gloria Gaynor sang. I WILL SURVUVE! Take care. Okie

July 31st, 2016 at 10:06 am