2017 US Open Men’s Seeds: Rafael Nadal Top Seed For Third Time

Let´s see who out of Nadal, Murray or Federer will get DelPotro in R32! Wiht DelPo´s bad luck in draws all this year, I bet he will be landed in one of these 3 sides.

August 21st, 2017 at 3:39 pm

Daniel, unfortunately, there’s been no evidence since the Olympics that Del Potro is able to run with the Big Dogs. Bad luck aside, if he can make a Slam QF here that would be an amazing result.

August 21st, 2017 at 4:20 pm

Wow, Zverev number 4! That’s jarring.

August 21st, 2017 at 4:21 pm

Yeah TV, but at least if he doesn’t drawn any of them he sure can make a QF run to improve his rankings.

August 21st, 2017 at 4:46 pm

Hope Fed winds up in Rafa’s side of the draw.

August 21st, 2017 at 5:32 pm

Tennis Vagabond/Daniel:

While Andy won the Olympics, Del Potro did beat Andy at a subsequent Davis Cup.

August 21st, 2017 at 5:33 pm

Let’s see if Murray even plays. We could end up with Rafa and Fed as the top two seeds.

August 21st, 2017 at 6:49 pm

RZ: He’s going to play…..+=&%4321+=-(shit)

August 21st, 2017 at 7:09 pm

J-Kath,

But somehow DelPo seems more powerless against Murray than any other Big 4, with a few exceptions.

Murray has a way of returning so indie the curt take he takes time away form tall serves. ball return fast to their feet. Is different than Fed blocking, or Nadal and Djoko going for heavy mid court high bounce returns. Murray’s kind of quick return bothers the tallest players the mos. And he return flat also, with no much bounce. I believe this is the most important aspect of why he handles tall big servers the best. Also he has a lot of variety like Fed and doesn’t hit the same ball twice.

August 21st, 2017 at 9:15 pm

Probably Andy is the most talented among the big 4 but unfortunately he is not as mentally tough and has a counter punching mindset.. Plus till he got Lendl on board, he did not have a good reliable forehand. As far as I know, no man has won slams without a good forehand.
As Daniel has very well analyzed above, Murray’s return bothers the big servers.

August 21st, 2017 at 9:43 pm

Hmm..
Not sure if Murray is the most talented among the big 4. To me an aggressive mindset and strong mentality coupled with consistent shot making is actually a big talent. No doubt, he is mentally the weakest of the 4; his FH also definitely ranks 4th on the most effective (and dangerous) shot. His second serve is also arguably 3rd or 4th among big 4 (Rafa being lefty, gets away many times but Murray can’t get away with the weak second serve).
His BH is probably up there with Novak’s. On return, definitely Novak is slightly ahead, I don’t think any of the other 3 can be thought as superior.
So, he is only at the top in one category. Yes, he is more versatile than Rafa and Novak but he is definitely way behind Federer on that department. He may know all the shots but really doesn’t execute or construct the points as well as Federer (again, the counter punching mindset is the culprit).

I agree against Big servers his return likely bothers them a lot.
But this might be one place where his counter-punching may have been advantageous. Because of his defensive style, he doesn’t make many mistakes (UEs). And a lot of these big servers that mostly have relatively weaker strokes (at least one of the two). So they just hurt themselves. Against Rafa, they can blow him out of the court by simply hitting flat and powerful on his FH. Against Andy, Nole and Fed that doesn’t work but the latter two, unlike Andy, are aggressive players and are prone to make more UEs.

August 21st, 2017 at 10:45 pm

Skeeze: Andy is gonna be eating ALL the cup cakes at the USOpen, sorry but there’ll be none left for anyone else….;)

August 22nd, 2017 at 6:55 am

Yep Daniel:

I was at that Davis Cup – and if I need an excuse for Andy vs Del Potro – it was sheer fatigue (as the Brits don’t have another singles player of equal ability hence Andy takes the brunt).

August 22nd, 2017 at 7:29 am

Me too, I hope Fed makes it in Nadal’s half.

August 22nd, 2017 at 9:03 am

Let’s see, in RG this year nobody thought Murray would go deep and he went to semis.

Maybe if he gest a good draw, with opponents he doesn´t have much trouble, will be a boots in his confidence going in. Off course, the matches need to be played and USO is the most dangerous Slam for an early upset. But I think he should be fine for week two, as long as he can move properly, not like those last sets in Wimby.

August 22nd, 2017 at 9:35 am

For Margot, J-Kath, and other Andy Murray fans – here is a nice article on him. http://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a46900/game-changer-andy-murray-profile/

August 22nd, 2017 at 4:22 pm

Dr. Ivo a killer of seeds. No one wants him. Most interesting man in tennis!

August 22nd, 2017 at 4:26 pm

RZ: Many thanks for directing towards the Andy article – obviously knew facts but it goes further and actually gets to the core of who he actually is — a great deal to be admired and a glance into the traumas in his life which defines him. Hopefully others beside his current fans might take a read.

August 22nd, 2017 at 5:56 pm

Although i hate the AO GS, especially as its not been a happy hunting ground for either of my two favorites over the years, i will say it was the best GS final of the year, the FO and W were both crap finals, history made yada yada, but Nadal and Federer faced opponents that were gassed in the final, so i would like the final GS of the year to be a better final, not saying either or both are guranteed to make the final, but we do know if they do we are in for a cracker, if they meet in the semi, i feel we will be robbed of that, and might end up with another FO or W ….

August 23rd, 2017 at 5:08 am

I think IW and Miami where the two met were damp squibs. So no guarantee that the two meeting would make the final a cracker.

August 23rd, 2017 at 9:56 am

True but more often than not they do bring it to the GS ….

August 23rd, 2017 at 11:22 am

And there isnt many matches between these two that havent been classic ….

August 23rd, 2017 at 11:45 am

Whatever happens these two are still the biggest draw, and the main attraction in mens tennis ….

August 23rd, 2017 at 12:54 pm

I wonder how Andy’s hip will hold up under the strain of back to back best of five matches; he won’t be match tight either. Rafa last won a hard court title at any level at Doha in January 2014. If his back is OK, Roger should be clear favourite of the three. Apart from then, the inform players are Sascha and Grigor, who I expect to go deep in the tou rnament. 2017 is the most exciting year in men’s tennis I can recall for a very long time.

August 23rd, 2017 at 3:00 pm

Really Willow you consider IW and MIami beatdown this year as a classic?

August 23rd, 2017 at 9:34 pm

While I agree that these two usually give the world the most exciting matches (normally because they have met in finals majority of the time), IW and Miami were on a pretty not-exciting matches. And TBH, both matches were beatdowns like t4t mentioned. Should they meet at USO there is a higher chance that it will also turn out to be similar to IW or Miami.

August 23rd, 2017 at 10:01 pm

t4t you need to re-read my post again, rather than nit picking, as that is not what i said, when you said IW and Miami were damp squibs, i said the word “AGREE”, but i did say they more often than not the do bring it to the GS, and in another post underneath i did say there isnt “MANY” that havent been classics, “MANY” been the operative word, i didnt actually use the word “ALL” matches between them have been classics,so you really need to learn some comprehension skills ….

August 24th, 2017 at 3:45 am

Rogernadfan i dont know if they will meet, whether its the semis or the final, as thats for the future which nobody knows, im just being hypothetical, but the AO GS final was amazing, W and the FO finals were crap, im a Nadal fan but i still love to see classic finals, as well as classic semis which we had at W and RG, its what i want as a tennis fan anyway ….

August 24th, 2017 at 3:51 am

Willow tells me I “really need to learn some comprehension skills” Imagine the gall of this bully who has scant respect for facts. She called me stupid, then claimed she didn’t call me stupid. . Her pal Markus outed her. She insulted Yolita, then claimed she did not know her! She claimed Djokovic was going to have shoulder surgery and then admitted she was just guessing. Now she makes a statement that Fed and Nadal meeting would be a cracker which is actually not borne out by facts. In order to predict how the next meeting would go we have to look at the recent past,In the last 3 years ( from Feb 2014 to Aug 2017) that these two have met, Nadal lost all 4 times and none of them were a classic or a cracker, not even the AO 2017. Just nostalgia made it exciting and out of the ordinary. The two most recent were beatdowns. This Nadal is not the Nadal of old. Willow tries to wriggle out of her wrong statement by claiming she said many , not all. The fact is not even one has been a cracker in the last three years and till Nadal proves otherwise, there is no factual basis for assuming the next one will be a cracker.

August 24th, 2017 at 9:03 pm

t4t when did i directly call you stupid ?, and i didnt insult Yolita what i said was she was biased, thats not a personal attack it was an observation, its not like i called her names or anything, and as i say i didnt say all Fedal matches were crackers, all i said was that they more often than not bring it to the GS, and as i said to Rogernad fan i dont know if they will meet or if the next one will be classic, as thats for the future, so i dont know what the future holds as nobody does, so how can anybody base it on facts ?, about Markus well hes a great poster and one whos posts i enjoy reading and respect, we sometimes agree and sometimes disagree, as for the AO i enjoyed it wrong result but i personally enjoyed it, as for calling me a bully your doing a great job of that yourself, im here to talk tennis not form little cliques with other posters, or win popularity contests, from now on you skip my posts and ill skip yours right ….

August 25th, 2017 at 4:19 am

^Bullying and currying favour with fans of other players, hmm strange one that ^ ….

August 25th, 2017 at 5:04 am

Skeeze: you are wrong. t4t is not Hawkeye unless Hawk has had a personality transplant, or playing Jeckyll and Hyde games, which I very much doubt.
Willow: just ignore it.

August 25th, 2017 at 5:49 am

Thanks Margot i will from now on :-)

August 25th, 2017 at 6:07 am

t4t seems to come here to annoy people and to create discord. Look back on my post and notice that I did not mention any name when I used the word stupid. I don’t know why he would raise his hand and stand up when the word stupid is called out.

August 25th, 2017 at 8:10 am

Markus i know you didnt, neither did i ….

August 25th, 2017 at 8:35 am

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August 25th, 2017 at 9:17 am