12 Things I Think I Thought About Rafael Nadal And The French Open
by Sean Randall | June 11th, 2019, 7:44 am
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Wrapping up some thoughts on a predictable men’s French Open and a wild women’s tournament.

1. Rafael Nadal
Even in his mid-30s, which he’s now entering, Rafael Nadal is still simply unstoppable. He’s the King of Clay with good reason. For most players, 12 titles is a great career, but he has 12 just at the French Open! That’s absurd when you think about it.

And there’s no signs of him slowing down or anyone rising up to dethrone him. Unless he gets injured he’ll keep piling up the wins.

2. Federer’s 20 Problem
Now just two titles away, Team Nadal is licking their chops since Roger Federer’s all-time record of 20 Grand Slam is well within striking distance, like September striking distance! Rafa’s never been this close.

Roger might get another at Wimbledon (if the draw opens up), but Rafa I think gets at least one more French and, if healthy, two elsewhere. And as I’ve said, Rafa has a better chance of a second Career Slam (by winning the Australian) than Federer does of getting another by winning the French.

3. Not Thiem’s Time
It’s a shame for Dominic Thiem and the many before him who have been denied a French because of Rafa. Fortunately, at 25, he should have plenty of chances when Rafa finally retires, whenever that may be, but raise a glass to the Austrian, he deserves it. He played well against Rafa but I just feel like the legs gave out toward the end.

4. Barty Party
The Barty Party Down Under is probably still raging, as it should. The 23-year-old Ash Barty held her nerve after blowing a big lead against Amanda Anisimova, then easily dominated the other teen, Marketa Vondrousova, in the final. She’s not your prototypical power player which makes her that much more fun to watch. I hope this isn’t a one-off because she is very rootable!

5. Women’s Semifinals
The French Open organizers did the women wrong playing both semifinals off of Center Court Chatrier. I understand the logistical issues and ticketing, but I don’t care who’s in those matches and what the men’s schedule looks like, they deserve a bigger and better stage than Court Simonne Matheiu at 11am.

6. Best On WTA
Has there ever been more upheaval and uncertainty on the WTA? The top players are losing early or injured. No. 1 seems up for grabs every week and we’ve seen a rush of new Grand Slam champions. It’s the post-Serena world…

7. Next Gen WTA
While the young men get the pub, the young women are getting the results. We saw Naomi Osaka win the US Open and the Australian. Now 23-year-old Ash Barty takes the French beating two teens, 17-year-old Anisimova in the semis and 19-year-old Vondrousova in the final.

And there are a bunch of other promising stars coming up as well like Bianca Andreescu, Coco Gauff, Iga Swiatek, Whitney Osuigwe, Dayana Yastremska and Marta Kostyuk.

Sofia Kenin announced her arrival stunning Serena Williams and Anastasia Potapova was able to close the deal on an undercooked Angelique Kerber.

Anisimova is going to lead the way for obvious reasons (and she’s actually good), but multiple Slams titles will come from this bunch and they really don’t have any “Big 3” to block their ascent like the men.

So with Serena, Venus and Maria on closing up shop, the WTA is about to get a whole lot younger. I guess looking at the last three Slam winners, it already has.

8. Federer’s Return To Red
While the wind, weather and of course Rafa ended Roger Federer’s French Open, I think it was still a successful return to the red stuff. Federer did have a good draw in Paris, but had no issues taking care of business. And it may lead him to give it another go next year. If not, what a way to go out against your rival Rafa in the semifinals.

9. Tsitsipas-Wawrinka
Easily the best match of the year, living up to the hype with a sizzling array of shotmaking and suspense.

It’s great to see Stan Wawrinka back to near 100% and Stefanos Tsitsipas continues to prove he may be the best of the new guys.

10. Get The Roof!
I know it’s coming, but a roof over Chatrier can’t come soon enough. Let’s hope the FFT can get this done next year as scheduled.

11. Serve Clock
What’s the point of a serve clock in tennis if they are not going to enforce it? Imagine if in the NBA the officials didn’t call the 25 second shot clock: “the Warriors went over by a few seconds, so what..”.

Nadal repeatedly went over 25 seconds during the final — the clock expired but no call was made — and many others players did as well (I’m not singling out Rafa).

I also don’t think the institution of the clock is speeding up the game – has the tour released any numbers to show it has? If it was, they would tell us.

And the clock starts after the chair umpire calls the score which means the chair umpire decides when to start.

It looks great, but it’s not working as intended.

12. Deciding Set Tiebreaks
The French is the lone holdout on the final set breakers, and they dodged a bullet Saturday after Thiem-Djokovic ended 7-5 in the fifth instead of 14-12 which would have really bumped the women’s final.

With a roof on the way in 2020, it should alleviate those scheduling concerns but it’s time for the French to join the trend.

Vamos!


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68 Comments for 12 Things I Think I Thought About Rafael Nadal And The French Open

lylenubbins Says:

Nice post, Sean.

I would add that Djokovic emerged from RG as a question mark.

He was in fine form until the semi’s and then suddenly he looked out of sorts against Thiem. I wonder if he is on another motivation down streak or if can pull it together for the rest of the season. This year, after AO, his form has not been great.


skeezer Says:

It doesn’t’ matter what Rafa does from here on out. Does anyone think his all time record of 12 FO’s will be reached in like, a hundred years? He will and is an historical Legend. A big congrats!
______
Shot clock? Get rid of it already. No one enforces it, what a joke it turned out to be.
______
Warriors!


RZ Says:

Totally agree that Barty is very rootable. Fun all-court style of play with variety to watch, plus the interesting backstory of taking time off and playing professional cricket for a few years before heading back to tennis. I’m hoping we’ll see more big titles for her.


RZ Says:

Of the current men’s players, Thiem is the youngest one to have been in a slam final. The next youngest (I think) is Nishikori, who is 29. Cilic is 30, the big 4 plus Stan are all over 32.


RZ Says:

^ I forgot DelPo, who is 30.


Giles Says:

Was just reading an article and these stats popped up. Fed needed to play 69 slams to get to 20 and Rafa 56 to get to 18.


Daniel Says:

“Was just reading an article and these stats popped up. Fed needed to play 69 slams to get to 20 and Rafa 56 to get to 18.”

Yeah, but you to you consdier that Federer played every Slam in that spam, missing only 2 French Open and 1 USO between his 69 Slams played to reach 20, so we can add 3 more for 72;

While Nadal missed 8 Slams (from his first played to last won), so his numbers turns to 64.

– Federer: 20 out of 72 spam is a 27,78% rate winning
– Nadal: 18 out of 64 spam is a 28,13% rate winning

Pretty even!


lylenubbins Says:

@ RZ well that settles the GAOT debate then, Roger is at 3.45 slams to get a victory and Rafa at 3.11. :)


Annie Says:

Hey Sean! There you go again, sounding like you really know what you are talking about when it comes to tennis. Did you actually watch the matches? The last few days were extremely windy, blowing clay all over everyone. They said the shot clock had been turned off because they had to take into consideration the wind.
Yet Thanks Dominic and RAFAEL for giving us a great match to watch.
Congrats to both of you, but you especially RAFA with your 12th FO/RG trophy/Championship! A truly Amazing, Athlete and Genuine Human Being.
You are a World-Class Citizen! Much continued Success to both of you!!!


dryeagle Says:

Disagree about the women’s SF. It’s unfortunate, but there was no other option.


SG1 Says:

Wondering what to expect from Novak at Wimbledon after the disappointment in Paris. Does he come back re-focused and ready to defend his title or does he drift for a while as sometimes happens when loses somewhat unexpectedly?

Roger can win Wimbledon if the stars align for him. As for Rafa, the grass just doesn’t suit his game anymore. Getting down to those low balls with his bad knees is a bad combination. Not sure the pounding Rafa takes on hard courts is sustainable either. Then again, every time I think he can’t do something, he defies the odds and does it.


Van Persie Says:

Hey Giles,

looka like Isner just won a match against Rafa now.
crazy ATP. Laver Cup matches are counting now retroactovely. lol

https://www.atptour.com/en/players/fedex-head-2-head/rafael-nadal-vs-john-isner/N409/I186


Van Persie Says:

^^there are funny comments on twitter about that. Laver Cup is no longer an Exo tournament and also the matches from the past are considered official.


RZ Says:

@lylenubbins – I think you meant that post for Giles. But LOL

Another crazy stat – Rafa’s 12 F.O. wins alone put him in 5th place (tied with Roy Emerson) for most men’s GS titles.


Giles Says:

VP. Lol. Well done Isner!


Daniel Says:

Didn’t Djoko also lost a match last Laver Cup, I think was to Anderson?


Van Persie Says:

2018 was not updated, and I assume that with Rafa-Big John will be corrected. When they played, it was not considered an official match. Or I hope they will not consider the ones for the last 2 years.


chrisford1 Says:

Rafa is obviously a great, great player and athlete. His game was tailored from the start, though, for success against right-handed players on clay. Great speed, strength, highest topspin and thus ‘slop’ in shotmaking and in windy conditions. It capitalized on his left-handedness and OCD as well. For further advantage on clay.
But it left Rafa sort of like a Fiddler Crab – lopsided. Giant claw, much smaller one. Giant clay Slam and ATP title count on clay, much smaller haul of other events, and a game tailored great for clay, but horrible indoors.
So he may meet Feds magic Slamcount number, but Fed fans are already saying Fed (and Djoko by insinuation) are no Fiddler Crabs, but ‘complete’ tennis players while Rafa is just the Raja of dirtpens.


Andy Mira Says:

Whooo CF1!!…God!…Would u stop belittling Rafa & his indoor record?I’m sick & tired of u ranting bout it over & over again…So what if he has a poor record on it??So what if he just a “Raja of Dirtpens”?We Rafans don’t care about it!….Why would u?

Fed,Novak,Rafa & even Andy has their own legacy,greatness & achievement in this sport CF1…Why the need to demean or belittling one of the greats esp. after Rafa just won his historic 12 at FO?I admire every each one of them very much!…Question is….why can’t u??


Old School Says:

American L Armstrong rightfully vilifiex by the French for cheating, their adopted favorite son gets accorded royal treatment including every schedule advantage, favorable opponent matchups, squelching the rumblings about chemical enhancements. Just hand him the trophy next time, skip his matches. Treat the number one seed like a nuisance, give the greatest of all time, the one who is above suspicion for being too good to be true yet he must be, a two hour match over a four day span preceding the final after a cakewalk schedule. What’s that you say? 3200 RPMs is within the wheelhouse of normal. Give the greatest of all time, who has achieved a feat that defies logic so of course he must be legit the schedule that Novak or Dominic had and he suffers another one of those injuries consistent with HGH use.

Maybe Wimbledon will seed and schedule fairly.


Giles Says:

Soooo, the haters and green eyed monsters have just woken up to fact of Rafa’s great, never to be repeated in this lifetime. feat of 12 French Open titles. This being the most difficult GS to win. Poor joker, Always missing out. Of course there’s always some excuse for his failure. This time it was the scheduling. Whatever.
And C1 enough of your BS!!


Chico Says:

If I had to guess, I’d say this was either the last or second to last RG win for Nadal. He was very well rested, especially mentally, before the final and Thiem was there shot for shot game wise in the first two sets. And what sets those were, looked more like boxing! Makes you think its a whiff of a shame that Nadal has not had better opposition throughout the years. As for other slams, very hard to say. If Nole is on, Nadal needs to go through him in Aus and Us. Furthermore the younger ones are coming. Kachanov all ready had one hell of a demonstration of skill in the last USO. Knees could take Nadal out in Wimby, but who knows what the newest gimmicks in medicine can do. Rafa is on a roll so maybe Wim 2019 and then go for Rafa slam hehe..

Hypotethically playing with round numbers, what would it take for the trio to make it 20-20-20? Nole has the uphill here as it is not granted that he’ll win one, less five. Going in to Wimby he would be the favourite if not for losing the possibility of a second calender slam. He might have a bit of a hangover mentally. Should be still in there in 2020, so that would need 2-4 hard court slams during the next three years and or focus on RG 20 (Thiem).

Here’s my two pennies..
Fed:
20 Slams 92%
21 8%

Nadal:
18 57%
19 38%
20 5%

Nole:
16 15%
17 45%
18 30%
19 8%
20 2%


Chico Says:

As for the tie-break rules, I’d say less tie-breaks instead of more. Life don’t need to be so scheduled and it puts the emphasis on being on you’re game through the whole tournament. If you have the possibility in your life to experience a fifth set in a GS, the right to whine is revoked. Winners need to get the job done. Exception maybe quarters to semis, tie-break at 9-all to prevent exaggerated fatigue unbalance in the semis and finals in consideration to the paying customers. Do not go easy and take after the popcorn americans ;), and use TB in a GS final.. *geez *rolling eyes


FedExpress Says:

Horrible organization, dreadful scheduling, horrible conditions to play in and disrespectful treatment of the players.

Anything but a GS standard tournament.

How tf does Thiem have to play 4 days straight?


Chico Says:

Beyond 12 RGs, Nadal has 6 Grand Slam Titles. 2 Wimbledons. The first was the result of getting a W in the match some consider be the match in tennis history. Won THE match in tennis history (2009 Aus Open Final) judged by combined quality of play. Building the most energy consuming final in tennis history against the player who has dominated the venue at hand. 12 RGs can be blinding.


Pat Lewis Says:

Oh, the wingeing that goes on in some of those posts.Some people are green with envy. Cannot give credit to Nadal for an outstanding performance. Long may he play. Sweeten up you grizzlers.


lylenubbins Says:

@ chrisford

the dirt season is arguably the meat of the season. After FO and Wimbledon, the intense part of the season is kind of over – – a lot of the top players try to limit their play during the scorching summer heat to be healthy for USO.


chrisford1 Says:

Predictably, Rafa fans blew a gasket on the Nadal as the Fiddler Crab analogy.
Roland Garros is 1 of 4 Slams, but 66% of all Rafa’s Slams happened here.
Clay Masters 1000s are 3 of the 9 Masters. Rafa has 25 of his 34 Masters on Clay, or 74%

But it is an argument that Fed fans started when Nads won his 17th at RG, then was favored to win his 18th at Wimbledon in 2018. That Fed was far more complete a player than Rafa.
Perception is reality.

Just as Sampras was discounted as GOAT because he couldn’t win on clay, Rafa’s terrible indoors record matters. No ATP Title in 15 year career, due to an indoors venue. Fed and Djokovic, 5 each. No Paris Bercy Masters in a 15 year career.

And right now, Fed is perceived as the greatest all round player the sport has seen, Rafa is the King of Clay, and Novak is the 2nd greatest all round player ever.


Daniel Says:

Correction CF, Fed has 6 WTF;-)

Agree in totality with your last sentence.

Things can change pretty quick and every Slam this 3 play may shift history.

– If Djoko wins the next 2, he is at #17 1 shy of Nadal (never this close). Will secure a tying 6 year end with Sampras and almost assure to end minimum second to Federer in total weeks as #1, or even surpass him next year.

– If Fed wins Wimbledon in a couple of weeks, he extends his difference to Djoko and resume the distance to the previous 3 with Nadal (somehting that lasted since 2014 and only changed with RG 2019 #18 for Nadal), protecting his GOAThood at leats a year longer or 2, as Nadal only won 2 Slams in the same year in 2017 out of last 6 years.

– If Nadal wins one of Wimby or USO (maybe USO as I don’t think he will reach Wimby finals again, and even so he will have either Fed or Djoko there), he stays 1 shy from Federer, who may never win a Slam again, so he will be in prime position to at least tie the 20 in 2020 (kinf of poetic).

Agree that Djoko is a more complete player than Nadal and for Nadal to be perceived as GOAT he will have to srupass Federer’s record to have the total slam weight more than #1 plus his positve HxH etc.

Because if the both end with the same amount of Slams, Federer will always be considered greater due to his balanced career, # 1 stats and Nadal’s heavy clay resume. Somehting that will not be true for Djoko. If Djoko somehow tie Federer’s total Slams, possibly with more #1 Year End, more weeks as #1, same or more WTF, more masters and positive HxH, it will be beyond doubt that Djoko is the GOAT.

Meaning, For GOAThood Djoko needs “only” to tie Fed’s total Slams; Nadal needs to surpass it.


Van Persie Says:

How boring would have been in all these tears without Rafa… Roger and Nole would have shared the titles at the FO and the other master titles on clay. All the non Rafa fans would have been too relaxed during the clay without no fear for the KOC. Let’s admit it, if you do not watch him without wanting him to lose, it is a joy.

It would have been boring without Roger or Nole as well, without Roger, no battle for the GOATing.

Nole made very interesting, Roger and Rafa would have shared the slam titles:we know their surface preferences, will not mention them. Nole was considered arrogant, when he said:Rafa can be beaten at the FO, an dhe did it in the end, I would love to see another final there between those 2, at the FO 🙂

Nole is very good on clay, but I like to watch him more when playing on hard or gras. Gras was never his fave, do not know why, as he looks more natural there, and I feel sorry, he did not play more tournaments on this surface, it is more suited to his game.

I will mention 3 other big players of this era:Andy of course, he really gave Nole a run for his money, beat him at 2 finals, drained him mentally at the FO 2015, in semis, won 2 Golden Medals. Nole would have morere weeks as Nr. 1, if Andy would not have been there.

A fave of mine:DelPo, great game, huge character, maybe I would prefer to have a beer with this guy, instead of having one with the 3 Big freaks 😉 A great fighter and champion. He managed to break my heart at the Olympics. lol

Stan… if Nole would not have won FO in 2016, I would have hated him for my whole life.😉 Not to forget the match against Nole at AO in 2013, this match made Stan believe, he can be a champion, I think..


SG1 Says:

This GOAT thing is getting tougher and tougher to call. If Novak had won in Paris, I would have considered him the GOAT. Holding all 4 slams at the same time twice in this era? It would have been a crazy achievement and almost unbelievable. It was within reach but he didn’t bring his ‘A’ game against Thiem.

I think that Nadal at 18 slams has a strong claim. What’s harder winning the calendar slam or 4 consecutive slams or 12 FO’s? The 4 slams-in-row has been achieved 4 times (3 times in the Open Era). How many male players have won any slam more than 10 times in the open Era? Only one. So what Rafa has done has a difficulty level at least on par with winning 4 slams-in-a row.

Federer being Federer has obvious claims. He has the most Wimbledon titles (the most important of all the slams) and he’s tied for most USO’s. His longevity, consistency and sheer brilliance with his racket play strongly in his favor. I seriously doubt we’ll ever seen another player with his array of gifts. Oh yeah…and then there’s the 20 slams.

The GOAT debate comes down to who you fancy. TBPH, if I had a kid who wanted to play tennis, I’d show them tapes of Federer and Sampras. But that’s just me.


Van Persie Says:

SG1,

exactly. GOATness is so much personal. For mw it will always be Nole, no matter what. Should he quit the game today. When I will have a kid, no matter if he wants to play tennis:he will watch AO12 final as bedtime story for sure, will be a long night, lol. And I have many other reasons to call Nole the GOAT, but with another occasion


Daniel Says:

SG1,

Ref achievements I think its hard to access.

Nadal’s achievement is huge, hence he stands alone at 12, but there are other players with big amount of Slams in a Single one, male and female:

Federer has 8 Wimbledon
Djoko 7 AO
Court 11 AO
Navratilova 9 Wimbledon.

Also, Nadal dominance had some spam, and the 3 times he lost he wen out relatively ealrys, 1 in R16, 1 WO R3 and 1 in QF. Djoko himself has more straight QF in RG than Nadal has. He has the overall domiance but he always had isses with the “straight” record,s that implies consistancy.

That’s why to me one , if not the most impressive record in open era, is Federe’s 23 straight Grand Slams semi-finals. I mean, this is a uninterrupted spam of 5 years and a half that he was in last 4 in all 4 majors, no skipping any major in between, in 3 different surfaces.

This record is so impressive that the second one who comes close to 23, its 10, by Djoko. I mean, the second best is less than half the other achievement. To put in perspective and equivalent for Nadals 12 Slams the second best record would have to be 5 majors at the same event.

In woman Graffi has 15.

Also Federer has 10 and 8 as both highest Slams finals streak ever.

You can call it weak era, luck or wahtever, but a player avoiding injury and an early loss for 5 and a half years in 3 different surfaces is the ultimate goal.

I don’t think none will ever comes even close to it. Djoko, who may end up the GOAT, has 10.

12 Slams in same tourney will never eb equaled also, but number wise compared to the semis streak, the difference will be thinner, it alreayd is with Fed’s 8 or Court 11 AO.


Daniel Says:

Just read online Djoko won’t play Queens next week, unless he acepts a wildcard. Weird decision, I wanted him to get his footing on grass before Wimby, to avoid any drama if the draw is tricky with a 2nd or 3rd round grass specialist, but he knows best.


Wog Boy Says:

One thing I thought about….basketball….

RAPTOOOORS!!!


chrisford1 Says:

Daniel, more often than not, Djokovic skips grass entirely or only does the Boodles exhibition. Doesn’t seem to bother him. He almost always goes deep at Wimbledon since 2007. A Marat Safin 2nd round loss in 2008 and his 2016 3rd round loss to Sam Querry while he was starting his time of woes and Pepe.
Nadal will also skip the grass prelims this year.
Both just announced that.

And Daniel, those streaks you mentioned are loved and cherished by fans of the players you mentioned, and certainly are testimony to the sustained excellence of those players and their physical durability and definitely should be factored in to judging how successful their careers were. But I differ in emphasis.

And in America we have streaks in sports we follow, particularly baseball. Sometimes excellence, luck of what happened to prolong the streak, sometimes improbably, health make for streaks that will stand forever. Joe Dimaggio’s 56 straight games getting a hit set almost 80 years ago is the most famous. No modern(post 1925) player has even cracked 40 straight save Pete Rose who got to 44 some 41 years ago.Along the way, two errors were mistakenly ruled hits. Around game 28 he struck out hitless in the 9th and last inning one game and was already peeling tape off his ankles when some ballboy screamed the team had somehow batted around and the manager said he had 1 minute to get to the on deck circle or a pinch hitter would bat in his place.
I think Roger’s 23 straight semis are impossible to duplicate, Rafa’s 12-14 Slam titles on clay and Djokovic if he manages to get one more RG and Cincinnati title.


chrisford1 Says:

And naturally I forgot to add to my long spiel on Joe Dimaggio that no one considers him the best that has ever played, despite his one-of-a-kind streak.

Wogboy – I just can’t get into pro ice hockey or basketball championships with summer here. I even forget they are being played some years. Those sports should be finished in late spring like they used to be. And all big amateur leagues in those sports are long done.


Kimberly Says:

Is tennis-x on holiday? Time for a new thread several days into grasscputt season.


Daniel Says:

Agree Kimeberly,

Zevrev Jr has another early loss, this time to Dustin Brown, who only happens once or twice a year during grass season.


skeezer Says:

WB,
Congrats on your cheap win. With two super stars out (KD and Clay) it was the only way your team got a sniff of a chance to win. Heck GS won two games against the rapturds without KD!. Imagine if the rapturds KL and Lowrie were out? Then we would have won with the bench only.
More devastating to me is GS probably is the end of their dynasty, as both injuries puts them out for at least another year. No playoffs anytime soo for GS. Damn.
On to Wimby.


Daniel Says:

Agree Kimberly,

But I think they are saving for netx week with Federer and Murray return to grass.

In the mean time, Zverev lost another early match, this time to Dustin Brown, who only happens once or twice a year during grass season. He is losing now to Aliassime in Suttgart, who can face Raonic in semis if he wins his match also. Good that the kid has some foot on grass.


Wog Boy Says:

Sorry Skeezer, once sore loser always sore loser.

Just to remind you something that you conveniently omitted, Raptors have beaten Warriors both times in the regular season too, they simply have their numbers, I mean it’s 6:2 this season and you are blaming injuries, they should’ve won the title in the previous game, but ok, we’ll take it with a three days delay.
The name of Warriors permanent injury is Kawhi Leonard, the only thing he knows and does is playing basketball, nowhere near marketing value as “some” other player, player who was traded North because they didn’t believe in him, the player who took the rest of the team under his wings and told them let us do something big, forced them to find that extra 10% and God haven’t they done something big, they stopped arguably the biggest team (by the names) in the history of NBA from winning third consecutive title, Lenard did that to Miami too, you got to love him, he proved that basketball is, at the end, team game and team wins the game not names, he proved naysayers what kind of leader and player he is, particularly to Gregg Popovich.

Warriors problem was that they became hostage to one player who wanted to prove that they can win the title without Kevin Durant but can’t win without him, but basketball is a team game, sometimes presence of ingenious player stops the others of showing their real value.

I love this line from one blog:
“Make some room, LeBron James and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Kawhi Leonard has just moved into your Finals neighborhood.”
Enjoy Leonard, you bloody deserve it.

PS
Before the finals I read article where they said that actually only 3 states wanted Warriors to win (California, Nevada and and Hawai), the rest wanted Raptors to win, I wander why the Warriors are so “popular” in the states?;)


Wog Boy Says:

CF1,
I can’t help it, I just love basketball, I played it, I was born in the city where you learn to handle the basketball before you learn to walk, it’s number one sport, football is played by semiliterate peasants, their IQ is not bigger than their shoe size;)


Wog Boy Says:

^^
European football not American, cannot talk about something I don’t watch.


chofer Says:

“Federer’s 20 Problem”

Sean, thinking like fan will get you nowhere. You think that’s a “problem”. Sometimes, I can’t believe these sentences are written by human beings and not TROLLS.

I only agree with 4 and 6. Otherwise, I think Thiem is ready. Rafa don’t need to retire, just feeeling that June can’t be your month forever. A toothache can happen… he’s human, even though every damn June we think he’s not.


Wog Boy Says:

Three things about Djokovic (since he wasn’t included in 12 things):

He is not defending Wimbledon.
He is not defending USO.
He is not defending YearEnd #1.

PS
#1 at the end of the year will be 38 years old.


skeezer Says:

WB the playoffs are not “regular season” games. You failed to mention the Warriors beat Toronto twice in these playoffs with no KD! Leonard the pathetic was playing in those games they lost with no KD, no?You and I both know KD is by far the best player n the world.
There is no sore losing here, very proud of the Warrior DNA that despite there insurmountable injuries they still won playoff games against a Toronto who had a full squad. The Warriors play the ultimate team game. Rapturds wouldn’t have won one game in the playoffs without Leonard. That is not a team.
Like I said, enjoy your cheap win. The better team will be back.


Wog Boy Says:

Yeah, definitely sore loser, when you say that team that went down 6:2 during the season is the better team, and why calling the names team and player that were clearly better team, don’t get it.
The only team I remember was robbed, literally so is Sacramento Kings in 2002.
Warriors are done, get it D.O.N.E and they lost fair and square to better team who happens to have best player in the world atm:

https://youtu.be/tE26kgnMArk

These people know thing or to anout basketball.


skeezer Says:

“sore loser” , lol such a cheap response. Just shows you can’t win a debate. That is all you can say, Can’t deny the facts that Rapturds won over a depleted injured squad. 5 guys had significant injuries and 2 All stars missed multiple games. Enjoy the cheapness.
Rapturds will never win another title? Maybe, maybe not. But they’ll never be in 5 finals and 3 NBA Titles. I enjoyed every moment. Enjoy the one.


Wog Boy Says:

Yeah, definitely sore loser, you can’t expect anything better from Sorriors fan.
Who cares how many finals you played, can you imagine same argument from LA Lakers or Boston fan, we are living in the moment and it spells “Toronto Raptors” not GS Sorriors.


Wog Boy Says:

It will be greatly appreciated if someone closer to desperate Sorriors fan give a hug to him, he is in desperate need of one. The match was two days ago and he is still crying or cal fire brigade to hose him down.


Wog Boy Says:

^^^
call


Wog Boy Says:

Only for sad Sorriors fan, the moment she (title) left you, grab some tissues, you’ll need a box;

https://youtu.be/hDDqDWYAzCQ


j-kath Says:

Queens starts this coming week – hope everyone ready to re-focus (other 500’s also starting).


Daniel Says:

J-kath,

Didn’t saw Murray in the draw, know something about it?


j-kath Says:

Daniel: Andy is playing with Feliciano Lopez vs. Juan Sebastian Cabal & Robert Farah (top double players)!!!!!!!!!!!……….on Monday 16th June – not sure what time.


Madmax Says:

Giles Says:
Was just reading an article and these stats popped up. Fed needed to play 69 slams to get to 20 and Rafa 56 to get to 18.

June 11th, 2019 at 10:50 am

Daniel Says:
“Was just reading an article and these stats popped up. Fed needed to play 69 slams to get to 20 and Rafa 56 to get to 18.”

Yeah, but you to you consdier that Federer played every Slam in that spam, missing only 2 French Open and 1 USO between his 69 Slams played to reach 20, so we can add 3 more for 72;

While Nadal missed 8 Slams (from his first played to last won), so his numbers turns to 64.

– Federer: 20 out of 72 spam is a 27,78% rate winning
– Nadal: 18 out of 64 spam is a 28,13% rate winning

Pretty even!

June 11th, 2019 at 11:55 am

Daniel! Right on!

Giles has zero response…he is trolling Fed again! Must be love!


j-kath Says:

Daniel – Andy with Lopez is on Monday 17th not Sunday – sorri for my wee mistake.


Madmax Says:

J-Kath, Margot (come back Margot!)

Will you both be around for Wimbledon – what is the current up to date news on Andy? Is he likely to play, do you think?

Best wishes,

X


Madmax Says:

2. Federer’s 20 Problem
Now just two titles away, Team Nadal is licking their chops since Roger Federer’s all-time record of 20 Grand Slam is well within striking distance, like September striking distance! Rafa’s never been this close.

Roger might get another at Wimbledon (if the draw opens up), but Rafa I think gets at least one more French and, if healthy, two elsewhere. And as I’ve said, Rafa has a better chance of a second Career Slam (by winning the Australian) than Federer does of getting another by winning the French.

Sean, Federer’s 20 ‘problem’ – only if you want to see it that way. I don’t. I see it as a joy, and 6 more titles, (If…oh if)…until he matches Jimmy Connors, most titles – and if Rafa surpasses the 20, then good luck to Rafa, he will have earned it. And will be known as the Slam GOAT.

There is so much more to Roger’s slams though for me and won’t list ’em all here.

And yes…as you have said Sean, the clock – so what IS the point? How many times does Rafa have to break the regulations and have nothing done? It makes a mockery of the tournament. Although, if you recall, last year at Wimbledon, they did enforce the clock violations. As you said:

11. Serve Clock
What’s the point of a serve clock in tennis if they are not going to enforce it? Imagine if in the NBA the officials didn’t call the 25 second shot clock: “the Warriors went over by a few seconds, so what..”.

Nadal repeatedly went over 25 seconds during the final — the clock expired but no call was made — and many others players did as well (I’m not singling out Rafa).

I also don’t think the institution of the clock is speeding up the game – has the tour released any numbers to show it has? If it was, they would tell us.

And the clock starts after the chair umpire calls the score which means the chair umpire decides when to start.

It looks great, but it’s not working as intended.

It’s not working, and really, would it make a difference if it did?


j-kath Says:

Madmax:

Andy not intending to play Wimbledon but may return later in year. I will mostly be around at Wimbledon.
Margot? Perhaps she will return if/when Andy returns.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/1140767/Andy-Murray-tennis-news-Wimbledon-Roger-Federer-Rafael-Nadal-Novak-Djokovic


chrisford1 Says:

Madmax – “– Federer: 20 out of 72 spam is a 27,78% rate winning
– Nadal: 18 out of 64 spam is a 28,13% rate winning

Pretty even!”

I’m curious, do you have Djokovics win %? I read elsewhere that Rafa has a better Slam winning record if you don’t count all the hardcourt events he skipped than Djokovic. But- but not when you do the winning the title percent on not just Slams but the big events Masters 1000 and above plus the Olympics.

Fed is still a couple ahead, but Djokovic will surpass him in total number of Top 10 foes faced. As almost all Djokovic fans know, he leads in % of Top 10 foes faced in the Open Era.


Daniel Says:

Thanks JK,

Check doubles draw and saw his name. Thought he would attempt on singles also. But even so, just to have him playing the game he loves is great. I hate when players are forced to leave due to those nasty injuries.


j-kath Says:

Daniel: Andy interviewed on TV – looked really relaxed/laid back. Plans to stay with doubles/then more rehab – then consider singles. He said he had always liked Lopez – interviewer said “Possibly not as much as your Mother does”. Andy grinned and agreed.


Daniel Says:

CF1,

Djoko played 56 Grand Slams +1 (the only one he missed was 2017 USO), so 57 Slam spam until he wins his 15. RG 2019 doesn’t count as its not his last title.

So, it took him to win his 15, 57 Slams spam, for a 15/57 = 26,31% win ratio. A bit smaller than Fedal but close still. If he wins 2 of the next 3 for exemple that number improves to 27,9% (17/61).


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