Rafael Nadal v Daniil Medvedev For The US Open Title, Who’s The Pick?

by Sean Randall | September 8th, 2019, 1:13 am
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So in the end at the US Open it’s the two Masters summer champions, Rafael Nadal and Daniil Medvedev, hooking up for the final Grand Slam title of 2019.

How did we get here? First, Rafa had a great draw. Recall Roger Federer landed with Novak Djokovic leaving the struggling Alexander Zverev and Marin Cilic in his quarter along with big men Karen Khachanov and John Isner who haven’t shown much consistency during the season.

In the semifinals, it was likely to be someone out of left field — I thought Gael Monfils — but Matteo Berrettini took advantage as Dominic Thiem, Stefanos Tsitsipas, Nick Kyrgios and even Felix Auger-Aliassime who all have had recent issues.


And Rafa pretty much has breezed into his 27th Slam final.

Meanwhile, Medvedev has had some cramping and some leg/thigh issues, but he got awfully lucky not having to face Djokovic or Federer to get to the final, which is quite incredible these days when so many players run into a Big 3 early and get their heart ripped out.

Djokovic is back having injury problems, Federer again is showing his age as his body keeps reminding him; and in that top half, after Novak and Roger it was Medvedev. So it’s not a huge surprise in that half other than Djokovic going down.

On to the final.

Rafael Nadal v Daniil Medvedev
First, I think it’s fair to throw their Canadian Open final out the window. That’s not happening Sunday.

Despite Medvedev getting destroyed back in Montreal, I think the big Russian puts up a solid fight. He learned in Cincinnati against Djokovic that when the “A” game isn’t working, go to plan “B”, or even “C” or “D”. So clearly, what he tried in Canada he can’t and I don’t think will do again.

My guess is he’s going to have to bomb serves and bomb forehands. Because while Medvedev is a decent mover, he can’t hang back on the baseline and hope Rafa misses like a Dimitrov or a Wawrinka.

And based on his comments and his summer — he’s gone 20-2 so far — I think he’s smart enough to know that.

Of course if Rafa is having an off day, that “pusher” strategy could work, but I have to think Rafa’s going to be on his game. He’s three sets from 19 and to do it he has to beat someone who is making his Grand Slam final debut and someone who he just crushed.

This is another great opportunity for Nadal — just like Kevin Anderson was a few years ago — to really put the heat on Roger and grab a Slam and possibly finish No. 1 for a fifth time.

That said, I think Medvedev has a chance, but he’ll have to go big. As soon as Medvedev drops balls short, we know what Rafa will do. So the 23-year-old will have to take chances, big serves, attack the net, use drop shots, and crack groundies. Otherwise, it will become Canada Part 2. And no one wants to see that.

For Nadal, it’s business as usual. Serve well, dictate with the forehand and get returns in. That should be enough because we know he’s going to show up armed and ready for battle.

The question is, can Medvedev come up with something big, something different to knock Rafa off his game? Because as it is right now, nothing Medvedev does should bother Rafa. So the Russian will really need to mix things up and like I said, I think he will. But it still won’t be enough.
The Pick: Nadal in three

Will there be an upset? I think Medvedev can get a set, but the problem is Rafa is so fresh, so hungry and to win three is going to take a monumental effort, and I don’t think Medvedev, after his long summer, has the reserves let alone the game right now to pull it off.

If this final was best-of-3, then yes, Medvedev could blast serves like he did against Djokovic in Cincinnati and maybe get through, but over the course of five sets, that’s tough to do.

I will say I like Medvedev’s attitude. He’s not afraid unlike some of the others. And win or lose, I think he’s shown this summer that he’s going to be around a while. And we now have pretty good idea of what the Top 10 will look like in 3-4 years with Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Khachanov, FAA, etc. But for now, it’s still the Big 3 and Rafa’s once again the last man standing.


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75 Comments for Rafael Nadal v Daniil Medvedev For The US Open Title, Who’s The Pick?

lylenubbins Says:

Nice post. I like Meddy too. The playbook (for everyone except Novak and Roger) for beating Rafa is to go for winners any time you get a decent look at a ball. It’s on hard courts and Medvedev can do that as well as anyone else, so we shall see. Still a long shot obviously.

If you look back at where Rafa was earlier this year, it’s incredible that he might finish with 2 slams. Remarkable athlete.


Czarlazar Says:

Picking Nadal 3-0 is the conventional move but is ignoring reality. Medvedev is the most in-form player in hard court tennis right now and as Sean wrote, he’s not afraid of Nadal or anybody else. Getting blown away in the Montreal final was a useful learning experience, giving Medvedev insight on an opponent he never played previously. The Russian’s groundstroke pace is underrated off both wings, and it’s the big hitters with “big balls” of their own that trouble Nadal. Rafa’s previous two rounds showed cracks in his armour, but Berretini choked in their 1st set tiebreak and the Argentine midget lacked the confidence or power to hold serve in sets one and two that would’ve tested Nadal far more. Like Bianca on the women’s side, Medvedev isn’t satisfied with making the final. He’s there to win, and has the game and confidence to pull it off.


All out Says:

Medvedev has the game to trouble Rafa.. especially on serve with Rafa standing literally with the spectators for his return. But I think Rafa will be in the zone.. he wants the title as much if not more than Daniil. He knows he needs to make these last few years of his career count as much as possible.
Daniil will probably take a set off Rafa but unless he’s consistently bombing huge serves and ground strokes, he wont be able to go toe to toe with Nadal.. Rafa will just keep increasing the intensity of his game till Medvedev folds. Hoping for #19. Vamos!!!


Emilia Says:

This will be a clash between the bull and a bear (medved= bear in Russian). I think the ‘toro’ will win and the next generation has to wait…
So, VAMOS Rafa!!


Van Persie Says:

10 years ago DelPo surprisingly beat Fed. Cand Daniil pull a DelPo?
Difference would be:Rafa is not Fes though :)


All out Says:

Impressed with the Medvedev serve so far. He’s bold and has amazing ground strokes. Nadals poor return continues to haunt him. Time to break and take the set.. Vamos!!!


Anto Says:

Nadal takes the first set. Highly competitive match so far.


Anto Says:

Nadal takes the first set. Highly competitive match so far. Hope it continues


Anto Says:

Medvedev is not going away. Such an awesome 3rd set so far. Now at least a TB guaranteed. For some reason I feel Rafa ain’t gonna win this TB.


Anto Says:

Shit it didn’t even went to the TB. Now suddenly we have a match on our hands.


All out Says:

Stupendous play from Medvedev and asinine returns from Nadal. Won’t be surprised if Medvedev takes this in 5. Need a break somewhere this set. Vamos!!!


Anto Says:

The longer this match goes the higher the chances of Medvedev winning I think.


Anto Says:

Looks like its going the distance.


Anto Says:

OMG. its going the distance


All out Says:

Now it’s over… really poor from Rafa in the 4th. Medvedev is going home with the trophy today


Anto Says:

Now I don’t see Nadal winning this match. And to think that he was 2 sets and a break up.


Anto Says:

Whatever happens hats off to Medvedev. He has taken it to Rafa and that too from 2 set to love down.


Anto Says:

Can Rafa hold serve now after the crucial break


Anto Says:

One more hold. Common Nadal!!


Anto Says:

Holy shit a DF to hand a break back. Man this is getting nerve bitting


Anto Says:

Medvedev saving 2 championship points. Will Nadal be able to hold his nerve and hold this game. OMG I can’t watch this


Anto Says:

OMG Nadal did it.


Anto Says:

OMG Nadal did it.


jatin Says:

What a match that was. Medvedev gave his all and almost had an Unrealistic EPIC comeback. He was so close to break Rafa again to come back in the 5th set. Great shot making and clutch play by Rafa in the end ( Wish Fed would have done the same in that Wimby Final)
Congratulations to Rafa and his fans for GS 19.


Giles Says:

Rafa reigns. Vamos Champ! 👍👍👍👍🏆🏆🏆🏆 NINETEEN 😀😀😀😀


autoFilter Says:

Wow, such a well-contested match. I am so happy for Rafa, and I hope Medvedev will just continue to build on this. Holy f*** it was so wonderful to watch this supremely talented [relative] newcomer push it all to the brink. And it was equally inspiring to see Rafa dig deep, as he does, despite nerves and fatigue to seize this opportunity to take yet another slam title.

Congratulations to Nadal and all of his fans. Equally, long live Medvedev, because to my eyes he is a breath of fresh air with tons of accessible upside potential.


Andy Mira Says:

Yesss!!….Alhamdulillah Rafa did it!!…

Thank u God for giving him health to make this possible this year..

#19reallyispossible!!…VAMOS RAFA!!…LOVE U!!…WOOHOOO!!


Daniel Says:

Wow, left for movies (IT2) and they were strating, got back and the movie is long (almost 3 hours) and they were in this roller coaster 5th set.

That 0-1 15-40 game Nadal saved change the match. Also the 2-2 40-0 Medv serving.

Insane gers Nadal made, that curve defense this last game down 0-15 which would set 0-30 afyer servong for the set and got brokeb was runreal.

Good to see umpire applyung rule

Nadal won today with his signature fighting spirit. And both charged the net a lot more than 60 times each going agaisnt their baseline common ground. Trully remarkable. 2 epica Slam finals in a row. Kind of curios for AO 20.

Last 3 years and Nadal lead 5 Slams, Djoko 4 and Fed 3. 19 and 1 shy from Roger. Of he gets AO and that elusive second career Slams things are gonna get interesting.

RG 2020 seems a lock and unless Djoko avoids drawing Thiem. He is the only one who can defy Nadal on Chatrier.

#1 seems a lock unless Djoko plays the Asian swing. Nadal is only confirmed for Shangai and WTF.


Andy Mira Says:

And congrats to Daniil for the unbelievable perfomance today..Ugh!…he’s a beast!


Chrisford1 Says:

Fans got their money’s worth.
Nadal proved yet again he is not a one-trick clay pony.
And welcome to the big time, Daniil Medvedev! A very talented and fanworthy guy. Took down Djokovic, almost took down Nadal in a great comeback.


Daniel Says:

Also, this last decade he has won 4 USO of the last 10 and absence in 2 (2012 and 2014). Meaning he won half 4/8 the USO he has player, plus another final in 2011. He is the best USO player this last decade.


Old School Says:

DM had his shot, shame for him. Up a break in the first set; 40 love 5th game 5th set & he lost his serve. His physicality was an issue again, he seemed to lose something after treatment. The tournament greased the rails for SW & Nadal, virtually guaranteed them both a berth in the final. Bianca did her part, DM should have, up a break early, he stumbled.

Sorry Nadal, Rogaine can’t help with hair lost to HGH.


Patson Says:

Congrats to Nadal and his fans. This is coming from a Novak fan. It was a thoroughly enjoyable match and Nadal’s belief is what got him through. He’s a legend. The race to catch Federer’s #20 is ON especially with Nadal just one behind now ! I’m hoping Novak can regain his foothold in Australian Open 2020. I expect to see him get to 18 slams in 2020 at the very least.

@Old School

Curious to know if you’re a Federer fan ?


FedExpress Says:

That choke from Fed in Wimb and that near choke from Nadal at the USO settled the GOAT debate im favour of Nadal.


Madmax Says:

Dear Oki and Willow, the staunch and great rafa fans here, (with the exception of the absolutely dreadful, awful, Giles) I salute you.

Oki, I have not had the chance to see whether you posted, but I want to say to you, you must be so, so, happy. I cannot imagine your feelings this morning. It is an absolute, (yet another), defining moment for Rafa and I hope that you are able to enjoy this evening/morning with huge celebrations. Quite incredible. He is up there, right up there – after this incredible year. And he is the greatest, in your eyes. As he should be. You are the greatest fans here and It is an amazing achievement. What a warrior.

Well done Rafa. Well done.


Madmax Says:

FedExpress Says:
That choke from Fed in Wimb and that near choke from Nadal at the USO settled the GOAT debate im favour of Nadal.

September 8th, 2019 at 11:42 pm

FedEx, just go away. You are a disgrace to all Federer fans. You simply cannot enjoy the moment, at all. You only are a fan, through thick and thin and you my friend, are only on Roger’s side if he wins. Hf he loses any tournament, he is the worst player ever. You are no better than Giles.

If Rafa continues to win slams and beat Roger’s record, then great for Rafa and of course he will be the GOAT because of the standards which tennis sets.

This is Rafa’s moment and his glory, and I wish him and his fans (except the awful, dreadful Giles), all the best.


Wog Boy Says:

Let me say again, congratulations to Rafa and his fans for #19 and year end #1. Thoroughly deserved, he is totally dedicated and results are showing that.
I sincerely wish him #21 and he’ll get there.

As for Nole, he is back where he was after FO2016, experimenting spiritually, bringing “coaches” that nobody else would hire, losing ones who made him what he is, doing politics (locally), criticising his fans who disagreed with his political views (his father is stepping in too, politically), lost weight again (that’s why Gritsch left him).

Injuries comes because there is no sufficient and strong muscles and tendons to support and hold shoulder and rest of the body, as simple as that, meditation doesn’t help there, but animal proteins do!

Anyway, good luck Nole and go Rafa for #21, you can do it.


Madmax Says:

Chrisford1 Says:
Fans got their money’s worth.
Nadal proved yet again he is not a one-trick clay pony.
And welcome to the big time, Daniil Medvedev! A very talented and fanworthy guy. Took down Djokovic, almost took down Nadal in a great comeback.

September 8th, 2019 at 9:38 pm

Agreed Chrisford 1.


Michael Says:

By winning his 19th grandslam, Rafa is precariously within a striking distance to eclipse the record of Roger. It is a phenomenal achievement given that he had a broken body inducing injuries of some kind throughout his glorious career. He also has earned reputation for being the master of comebacks and what was exceptional about this was the way he made it seamlessly look so easy despite being arrayed against the toughest odds. Although 12 of his 19 have come at Rolland Garros, yet he has proved again and again by his feats that he is an all-court player who can adopt to any surface with meticulous ease. I think it is now only a matter of time before he breaks Roger’s record and that would be one helluva of achievement. My hearty congratulations to him and Rafans. Rafa’s legacy will endure for generations and he has become immortal in sport.


Madmax Says:

Game on for the slam count – how exciting!


FedExpress Says:

whatever Madmax

Nadals gamemanship was on full display regardind how long he took to serve especially when it got tight. Umpire intervented thankfully


Michael Says:

My hearty congratulations to Medvedev too and he conquered the hearts of tennis fans despite losing given the never-say-die attitude he displayed with exemplary mental fortitude, perseverance and forbearance. To come back down from two sets against Rafa in a major final requires some taking and he displayed remarkable courage and fighting spirit symptomatic of a future Champion. The glorious tributes that he paid to Rafa in the prize distribution ceremony melted even the hearts of hardcore Rafans with the poise and grace he took his defeat. He need not be disheartened for it is already a wonderful breakthrough year for him. All that he needs now is ample rest to cool his body.


Wog Boy Says:

FedEx,
I am absolutely sure that we would have a ball watching together football game in the pub and cheering opposites (I am Borussia Dortmund fan when it comes to Bundesliga).
You don’t have bad bone in your body, you are just a fan who express his feelings openly, nothing wrong with that, even we have a go at each other, that’s what fans do:)
Next time I am in Germany (North Rhine-Westphalia), I sm buying you Warsteiner beer and we’ll watch football, I hope you are going for Bayern so I can give you hard time.


FedExpress Says:

haha thanks Wogboy. but i dont drink


Michael Says:

Rafa has now made Novak’s task a little difficult and Roger’s fans jittery. Yet he will surpass Roger if he is deserving of it. Roger can only hope somehow he wins another major to go a step ahead.


Sivaji Says:

Vamos Rafa!, You did it. Wishing for many more years of health and grand slams. Y20 is more interesting now big3 Vs young gen. Vamos


Wog Boy Says:

FedEx,
Bugger:(

Ok, apple juice for you and Jägermeister for me, chilled one;)
After that we can have some roasted pork knuckles with sauerkraut and creamy mash, sounds good, no?


Okiegal Says:

@Madmax…..I did send you a comment on another thread when you addressed me about Rafa winning his SF match. Thanks so much! I’m so thrilled he got his 19th slam! What a fight Danil put up…. wow just wow!! What a great player this kid is…..amazing to watch. No doubt great things are coming his way. I loved his speech at the trophy presentation, he was comical and won the respect of the tough New York crowd. What a great night for us Rafa fans…. I’m elated!! 🌿🌿


Madmax Says:

FedExpress Says:
whatever Madmax

Nadals gamemanship was on full display regardind how long he took to serve especially when it got tight. Umpire intervented thankfully

September 8th, 2019 at 11:51 pm

FedEx, I am going to apologise to you because it is wrong of me to call you a disgrace. I apologise for that. I reflected on this and realise that is a horrible thing to say to someone, so I am sorry. I realise that you are not a true Federer fan, that is my opinion, because Federer fans stick with their man through thick and through thin. And you are not one of those fans. There are fans who only are fans when their guy wins, but whenever they don’t meet expectations they run with their tail between their legs and they call out and they get down on themselves. I also realise that I have been trying to help you with your psyche when it comes to Federer because you do get so down on him and on yourself. You are who you are and you will continue to be that way, until you decide to change – and you won’t because this is who you have been for 2 years now, so I just wish you good luck. I really do.

As for Rafa, it would be great for him to have the praise heaped on him for his astonishing win. It is astonishing and he is a warrior, whether you like him or not. It makes no difference. I am loving that fact he is still here, not only that, the same goes for Federer but I am certain Federer will have been the first one to congratulate him. I am also certain he will give it his best to make it 21. Not so sure he will make it, but if he boxes clever this year and keeps his energies for Wimbledon, or even the AO…then perhaps.

Roger will always be the greatest to me, as Rafa will always be the greatest to the great Oki fans.

That is life. This is sport.

Good luck to you FedEx. I mean it. I hug you.


Madmax Says:

Michael Says:
Rafa has now made Novak’s task a little difficult and Roger’s fans jittery. Yet he will surpass Roger if he is deserving of it. Roger can only hope somehow he wins another major to go a step ahead.

September 9th, 2019 at 12:04 am

Michael,

Please speak for yourself. I am so not jittery. This is sport. This is brilliant. Game on I say! Totally calm. If Rafa surpasses Roger, he will have deserved it and I will call him the GOAT of tennis because that is what he will be, in terms of Tennis standards. But, for me, Roger will always be the GOAT, for so many more reasons than a slam count. There will be the age old discussion about Rafa having won the majority of slams on clay, and there is certainly an argument there. But Roger goes much further for me, in terms of never having retired from a match, most weeks at number one, and it really goes on.

Good luck I say, to whoever beats Roger’s Slam count. I have humour here. I think Rafa will match it, and then I think overall Novak will get 23!


Alison Hodge Says:

Madmax cheers ;-)


Michael Says:

Madmax,

GOAT is merely illusionary and a matter of individual perception. I feel we are needlessly putting much emphasis on a non-issue which is merely academical, but yet contentious. Nevertheless, winning the most number of majors is a matter of pride to etch one’s rightful place in the annals of Tennis history. If Rafa achieves that feat, belittling it with preponderance of French open silverware trophies will not wash and it must be given the recognition it deserves.


j-kath Says:

Goodness gracious! Made my morning coffee…hit the TV and there was RAFA in the last minutes of his match vs. Medved – Rafa dropped to the floor with a wonderful grin on his face….after a nearly 5 hour match….he actually looked as fresh as a daisy.

Lots of whoops and cheers to Rafa’s fans; Andy-Mira; Okiegal, Alison and Giles – and millions of others.


Giles Says:

J-K. Thanks and cheers


Andy Mira Says:

JK…Thanks so muxh for the congrats!…Awesome!!😘👋👍


Alison Hodge Says:

J-Kath cheers ;-)


Django Says:

WB
What kind of politics are they doing? Supporting certain candidates?


Wog Boy Says:

Django,
His father does get involved, he only changes sides, 7 years ago during elections he supported the ones who were in power, even made a speach at their pre election conference, they lost, he was quiet for a while, they wanted to evict him from the premises he is leasing (prime real estate) for apparently not paying the rent, now he is quietly with ones that are in charge (present Dictator) of the country and city of Belgrade too. It’s a two way street, he gives them what they want, they leave him alone.

Nole officially doesn’t expose himself, in official politics, but he is his father.
Nole’s politics are different, this is not the place to go into it, but his speeches, opinions are about something else that lot of his fans back home didn’t like, and he also didn’t like we didn’t like it and told us so, pretty blatantly, (his father to in his TV interviews), goes back about year or little bit more than a year.
That’s ok, that’s his right same as it’s mine to disagree with, very much so.


Okiegal Says:

@J-Kath …… Thank you so much for the congrats! That match was a barn burner. and will go down in the annals of tennis history as an all time classic! My ❤️ has finally settled down….. thank goodness!! I can’t stanz no more like that one……..LOL!! BTW, I certainly hope Andy keeps getting healthier….. missing that guy! Thanks again sweet lady!


Django Says:

WB
Why can’t he pay rent? Nole should give him money.


Wog Boy Says:

It’s a long story Django.

Meanwhile, Nole’s season is finished, maybe career too. He is in one Switzerland clinic contemplating whether to operate shoulder or not.

I guess some posters are happy now, particularly knowing iit was genuine and very serious injury, possible career ending one.


Tanner Boyle Bermuda Says:

Medvedev performs like a champion. Rafa has a good opportunity to overtake Roger Federer record 20 grand slam.


Madmax Says:

Wog Boy Says:
It’s a long story Django.

Meanwhile, Nole’s season is finished, maybe career too. He is in one Switzerland clinic contemplating whether to operate shoulder or not.

I guess some posters are happy now, particularly knowing iit was genuine and very serious injury, possible career ending one.

Wogboy, it’s so bad that you pretend to be a Novak fan, after all the spiteful posts your wrote about him 2 years ago – they were cruel and hard hearted. And then to spread fodder here as if you are his personal doctor. You are not. Novak, came out 2 days ago and said this – now, if he wants to say something different, I am certain there will be an OFFICIAL announcement, not the unofficial rumour from the mill – from someone like you who loves to spread idle gossip. Let’s hear it from the horse’s mouth, and not the gossip getter.

September 10th, 2019 at 5:25 pmThe world No 1 is next scheduled to appear at the Japan Open, which begins on September 30.

But it has been speculated that Djokovic may need shoulder injury to fix the problem.

However, in an UPDATE ON TWITTER, Djokovic made no mention of surgery as he apologised to his fans for keeping them “in the dark” and said he was still looking to play during the Asian hard court swing.

“Sorry for keeping you guys in the dark these days,” he said.

“I‘m having a wonderful time with my family and actively working on my recovery so I can be ready for the Asian swing.

“My health is always top priority and as soon as I’m ready, I’ll be back.

Good luck to Novak, to come back as soon as he feels refreshed.


James the 1st Says:

Madmax,

I used to be a regular poster on this blog between 2013-2014 under the moniker ‘James’, changed it later when I saw someone else had the same name on here when I came back a year or two later. Wog Boy was always a Novak fan all those times. Maybe at times was critical of him but never said anything negative about Novak that I remember.


Andy Mira Says:

Yeah…i agree with James…I mean,whoever blogging here for years know that WB is a diehard Novak fan..just like everybody else…Just bcoz he was critical of Novak sometimes,that doesn’t mean he ‘less’ Novak now or ever…Imo, some peoples deals with hurt & pain in a different way than others…that’s all…

I for one never thought anything about WB other than he just want to unleashed his frustrations about Novak who he thought didn’t make a right decisions on some things sometimes…But that’s normal i think if we love & cared about someone…


Wog Boy Says:

James and AM, thanks, much appreciated, nothing to add.


Andy Mira Says:

No prob WB!👌👍


Alison Hodge Says:

To add i dont really post here that often anymore, and i must admit to having some humdinger arguments with Wogboy at times, but i will say hes always been true to Novak, besides what difference does it make when fans are critical at times of their favorites, fans are fans and some people react differently to others, no harm or foul ….


Alison Hodge Says:

Thanks for the link Gonzo ;-)


Wog Boy Says:

Thanks Alison, and yes, I criticised Nole and some members of his immediate family, maybe I am sometimes OTT, but I criticise my kids too, they don’t have my unreserved support if they are doing something which is against my beliefs.
Nobody has my unreserved support, unless I believe in what they are doing.


Alison Hodge Says:

Welcome Wogboy :-)


Patson Says:

Wogboy is a proud Nole fan, not a proud cultist. Fans can be critical, a cultist cannot. :)


Wog Boy Says:

Yes Patson, you said it, I wasn’t able to put it that way in English.

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