Monfils Masters Murray, Federer Next in Paris; Llodra Stays Hot
by Sean Randall | November 12th, 2010
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I said a week ago when the draw was released that the Paris event set up nicely for Gael Monfils. And so far it has and Mr. Showman is living up to the expectations. Today, Monfils won his third straight three set match with a great win over Andy Murray 6-2, 2-6, 6-3 to put himself into the Paris Tennis Masters semifinals.

The match was trademark Monfils. Lots of bad errors mixed in with some jaw-dropping ability and hold-you-breath moments. In fact, on the very first point of the match Monfils inexplicably dove to the mat in an attempt to return a Murray groundstroke.

Murray, who had also come off a three-setter, looked sluggish at times.

“I just tried to keep the points shortish,” said Murray. “It worked middle set but didn’t really work in the third set as well. Obviously the atmosphere is great and you can lift your game a little bit. I wasn’t feeling perfect going into the match and it can lift you. We had some good points. They support their home player very, very well here.”

Murray of course still has London in 10 days or so, but for Monfils this is it. And it showed.

Now just four sets from his biggest career title, Monfils must navigate past top seed Roger Federer tomorrow. Federer has been sharp and and all business this fall. The Swiss sailed passed Jurgen Melzer in the quarterfinals 6-1, 7-6 to reach his first ever semifinal at the Paris Indoor.

“I served well the whole match,” said Federer who smashed 18 aces, a personal-best for him in a two-set match. “In the second he was able play a bit more solid overall and he served a bit better. Obviously as the match goes on, he’s a good player, and you get a feel for the match and start playing better. Top guys rarely just go through two sets not having a sniff at all. His sniff was in the breaker when he hit two good returns to go 2‑1 in a mini-break. That was his chance there. But I played a wonderful first set, being aggressive on the returns, serving really good – it was a perfect set. After that, I always knew it was going to be much closer because the first set wasn’t really reality, was it?”

The win improves Federer to 16-1 in his last 17 matches and extends his consecutive tournament semifinals streak to seven. You have to tip your cap to the man.

Federer leads 5-0 over Monfils but I give Gael and really good chance on Saturday. He’ll have the crowd and the emotion on his side, and Fed’s never played well at the event so an upset would not surprise me. But Gael has to keep his poise. He can’t let the moment and the energy overtake him otherwise he’s liable to go berserk out there.

In the bottom half, Robin Soderling basically overpowered Andy Roddick 7-5, 6-4. Roddick doesn’t get overpowered often, especially on a fast indoor court, but Robin was stronger off the baseline and was stronger in the serve department.

The Swede outaced Roddick 18-13 and cracked far more winners off the forehand side. And of Roddick’s once-vaunted second serve, he won just 8 points (of 22) off that delivery today. Eight!

“We’ve played five times now, and we always had really tough matches,” Soderling said of his 3-2 edge against the American. “Against Andy, the margin is always going to be very small. I lost to him in three sets in Indian Wells and 7‑6 in the third in Cincinnati – both matches, with a little bit of luck, I could have won. Against Andy, it’s always just a matter of taking the chances you get, and today I think I did really well. I served pretty well today. Maybe I could have put some more first serves in, but my second serve was good, and overall it was a good match.”

Soderling is a two-time French Open finalist and now he’s making his mark indoors in Paris. He’ll try to extend his run tomorrow against the hot-handed Michael Llodra.

The Frechman continued on his torrid form this week by crushing Nikolay Davydenko 7-5, 6-1 and likely sending the Russian outside the Top 20 by year-end. Davydenko had led 4-2 in the first set before Llodra ripped 11 of the last 13 games to reach his first career Masters semifinal.

“It’s just a follow up to what I did all year round,” said Llodra who 2-0 career against Soderling. “I’ve improved on many little things, but the main thing is my mental progression. I am now able to be better than the Top 30. I’m not saying I can do that every week, but on this type of surface, this week here in Paris, I was able to have three victories in a row against Top 20 players. It’s good for the future.”

And I think that attitude and the crowd will propel him past Robin tomorrow. So an all-French final? Allez!

PARIS SATURDAY SCHEDULE

CENTRAL COURT start 11:30 am
[8] F Cermak (CZE) / M Mertinak (SVK) vs [6] M Bhupathi (IND) / M Mirnyi (BLR)

Not Before 2:00 PM
[4] R Soderling (SWE) vs M Llodra (FRA)
[1] R Federer (SUI) vs [12] G Monfils (FRA)
[1] B Bryan (USA) / M Bryan (USA) vs M Knowles (BAH) / A Ram (ISR)


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392 Comments for Monfils Masters Murray, Federer Next in Paris; Llodra Stays Hot

Kimberly Says:

Sean this is kind of like your Wimbledon Hewitt prediction


skeezerweezer Says:

All hail Sean and Monfils pick…….just don’t say Fed is going to win,,,,the Sean jinx…..pleaseee :=)

“The win improves Federer to 16-1 in his last 17 matches and extends his consecutive tournament semifinals streak to seven. You have to tip your cap to the man.”

:)


steve-o Says:

The match is Federer’s to lose. Monfils only has a chance if Federer starts throwing errors. This surface plays so quickly that Monfils will not have any second looks.

The points will be short, depriving him of the long rallies he thrives on. No chance to showboat and make spectacular gets and bring the crowd into it. And Federer will be attacking his second serve mercilessly.

I think Llodra has a great chance against Soderling. But it will be a tough match.


Kimberly Says:

I want llodra to win the tourney his kid is so cute and hopeful. I havej two small hopeful little boys, my husband is playing some random tournament where they play the Sony Ericsson tomorrow and they are excited. Would be nice for both llodra and then kid for a win.


Fot Says:

Kimberly, isn’t Llodra’s kid a ‘girl’? Anyway, if that’s why you want him to win – don’t forget – roger has 2 KIDS!!!!! lol! I want Roger to win the entire thing.

Come on Roger!!!!!!!!!!!!!


skeezerweezer Says:

Bodo has outlived his usefulness….geez


guy Says:

bodo has a point though. you watch top players playing on the alternate court and suddenly it looks like a futures tournament with only a handful of people there and really no room for a substantial crowd anyway.


skeezerweezer Says:

I don’t know what tournament you were watching. I watched all of fed’s matches and they were packed, fans cheering and lots of excitement……..try again?


margot Says:

For Andy fans:
“Monfils was the better man tonight, onwards and upwards to the O2, so pumped to play in that arena again was so good last year.”
Can’t help felling getting to bed at 3am might have had something to with Andy’s “sluggishness.”
skeeze: Andy said in his match against Cilic it was so late the crowds were leaving throughout. Must have been quite disconcerting! Must say I agree with Bodo, the arena does look like a student canteen, its got a kind of tinny feel.
Anyway, “French Toast” I like very much….


jane Says:

margot, since you mentioned Murraysworld during Valencia, I’ve read the write ups there (on the front page) and have posted the odd comment too. Seems like a good site. Agree: those very late matches must catch up to the players at some point.Hope you get to see him at O2.


margot Says:

jane: I know I’m whingeing..but….Andy does get some dire scheduling, seem to remember in the Summer in some very hot place, all his matches were noon:(
am going to join mw but want an avatar and haven’t quite figured that one out. Yep, internet dunce, me ;)


guy Says:

>skeezer

i was watching paris masters, where believe it or not, there were other players besides federer. and they weren’t all given centre court to play on.


Colin Says:

When Murray loses, he is routinely accused of being too defensive, yet the fact is Monfils won by doing much the same thing! He was uncharacteristically patient and it was he who won the extended rallies. “Defensive” Andy, on the other hand, was going for winners too early. The commentator I was hearing suggested he was tired and was trying to shorten the rallies.
As always, following Murray is a roller-coaster ride, and I just hope he can go up rather than down in London.


Rick Says:

Easy draw for Federina. He would wins tournament if he doesn’t has to play Nadal, Murray or Djokovic. Whenever Federina plays Soderling or Roddick, he would wins!


madmax Says:

Fot, Llodra has two children. A boy and a girl.

Sean:

He’ll have the crowd and the emotion on his side, and Fed’s never played well at the event so an upset would not surprise me.

Sean, fed IS playing well and has reached the SF for the first time in all the years he has played at Paris. Your comment therefore that ‘he has never played well at the event’, is now redundant!

May he continue to play great tennis.

Agreed that Monfils is also playing well, but I think Murray yesterday was not at his best (obviously). You could almost guarantee a murray win, he seemed lethargic on court and well out of it. Monfils has always been an unpredictable player, but federer is playing great tennis right now and is up for the challenge.


madmax Says:

Rick Says:
Easy draw for Federina. He would wins tournament if he doesn’t has to play Nadal, Murray or Djokovic. Whenever Federina plays Soderling or Roddick, he would wins!

November 13th, 2010 at 8:07 am

joker.

You may not realise that fed has already beaten both murray and novak this year – go do some research!


Kimmi Says:

rick, you are back. nice to see u :)

great get by llodra…unfortunately he made an error on the next shot.

still on this game though


Gannu Says:

Eagerly waiting for feddy bear’s match.. havent seen him playing any match for the past 3 weeks thanks to the timing.. finally can see him play now !!! Its gonna be exciting seeing him play Monfils in Paris

Rick – its not fedrina’s mistake that the losers Murray and Djoko lost early and the a$$ picker didnt particpate.. the so called Fedrina who is now having a disatrous year is at world no 2 and having won 4 tournaments… and thats more than the loers murrya and djoko.. so please keep ur mouth shit.. Fed is the GOAT.. period.


Kimmi Says:

both serving huge a.t.m, llodra cannnot do anything on sod second serves. r we going to see the tie breaker?


Kimmi Says:

ooooo worst tie break for soda. can llodra take this one

6-0 i think he will


Kimmi Says:

PERFECT tie break for llodra. 7-0 points. Soda must be mad but what can he do…


Kimberly Says:

FOT-Llodras kid is a boy. The had him down on the court hitting balls with llodra. there was a picture on the atp website of it and when he won against Davy they showed the kid in the stand so excited.


margot Says:

Yay! Come on Llodra, a set up and playing gr8 in the second :)


Kimberly Says:

FOT—Feds kids have plenty of tournaments to watch him win.


Kimmi Says:

llodra still serving big. soda is getting frustrated, since that 1st game second set, not another sniff on llodra serve. can llodra pull this off…plenty of time to mess this one up for llodra still..


margot Says:

So quaintly old fashioned and boringly sexist that someone think he can insult male tennis players by turning their names feminine ;)


Kimmi Says:

llodra kid is been brought up to the stand. just incase daddy wins..hope he is not jinxing…

soda still fighting, anyones game still


Gannu Says:

This llorda match is awesome.. after ages i am seeing such good S&V tennis…Amazing… Hope he wins..


margot Says:

lovely, lovely play at 3-3, a joy :)


Kimmi Says:

what unbelivable gets this llodra..

commentators are saying “how long can llodra maintain this high standand of play, he is gonna burst off at one point surely?”

llodra still keeping it real..


dimwitted recluse Says:

Colin @7.54
Although obviously Murray and Monfils are hugely different, nevertheless they are both counter-punchers and often have problems in getting the balance between aggression and defence right; perhaps because the body is accustomed to going one way, whilst the mind is urging the other.
Nadal started as a counterpuncher, and he still is a bit, but he seems to move seamlessly into aggressive mode all the time now. Murray and Monfils can only do it sometimes. That seems to be the main diference.


margot Says:

“Fantastic display of serve and volleying” Oh yes!


Gannu Says:

Yes kimmi i heard what the commentators said… but this is quite mind bogglibg.. llodra truly deserves to be in the final or perhaps even take this tournament… Amazing match..


Kimmi Says:

a chance for soda here perhaps?

0-30


Kimmi Says:

soda with a break point..


dari Says:

Who is the expressive older French guy with greyish hair and a suit that they always show in he crowd? He often covers his head when he French men get in trouble.


Kimmi Says:

WOW! break. soda to serve for the 2nd set…

just like that..now its anyones match indeed


Colin Says:

Dimwitted R, your remark about the brain-body clash reminds me of the old joke about the middle-aged guy who plays tennis. He says “My brain says to my body ‘Move swiftly, intercept the ball, strike it back accurately’ and my body replies ‘Who? – ME?’


Kimmi Says:

soda very nervous to serve this out. 4th set point


Kimmi Says:

we have the decider..


NELTA Says:

dari Says:
Who is the expressive older French guy with greyish hair and a suit that they always show in he crowd? He often covers his head when he French men get in trouble.
———————————–

Jean Gachassin – President of the French Tennis Federation


margot Says:

Off we go for a third! Can Llodra keep his nerve? Hope so!
Colin: loved you joke!


margot Says:

Oops :( is this why Sod’s no 5 in the world and Llodra is 135, or whatever?


dari Says:

Thanks NELTA I knew it was something along those lines.
Looks like soda struck and mika got a little treatment while I stepped away for a moment!


margot Says:

Wow! What an exciting finish! What a treat! Come on Michel!


madmax Says:

It’s an amazing match! Llodra really is fighting here. But soderling stays strong.

Wonder if this is going to be another tiebreaker, like the first!

Whoaaaa. The crowd is just amazing!


madmax Says:

this is so amazing. so much pressure on both players.


madmax Says:

soderling is a fighter.


blank Says:

Soda is as tight as a drum.


Kimo Says:

This match can be the highlight of Llodra’s career.


Kimo Says:

Ohhhh I wish that missed forehand on match point doesn’t haunt him for the rest of his life!!!


Kimmi Says:

how did he lose that one..c’mon llodra


dari Says:

What a match point that WOULDA been!


dari Says:

That game was insane! Mika has to take the tie-break. Lets go Llodra!


Kimmi Says:

soda with a good mini break


Gannu Says:

UNBELIEVABLE MATCH


Kimo Says:

I’m sad for Llodra. He had the match on his racket. Oh well….

Still, it’s a joy to watch him play and carve up those insane volleys.


Kimmi Says:

soda pop..wow! CONGRATULATION!

too bad for llodra, all in all it was a magnificent perfomance from him.

he will be thinking about that FH miss in his second or was it third match point…

thats tennis for you!


skeezerweezer Says:

Almost 3 hrs, packed house, epic classic indoor tennis!

Who ya think is gonna play for the French in the next Davis Cup?


Kimmi Says:

blank – you rock for picking soda to the final…best pick ever!


margot Says:

what a fabulous, fabulous match, best of the week by far. Llodra had match point and a do-able passing shot :( but Sod took it, all credit to him.


contador Says:

what a match!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i love them both.

courageous matchpoint saving from soda

mr. dimples rocks!


skeezerweezer Says:

Llorda almost S&V, chipped and charged his way to the finals. Nice to see some variety of “style” other than pound a punching bag from the baseline. Hope we get some more productive players like him back in the game…..


jane Says:

Wow. Llodra has been a revelation this event; I didn’t see all of this match (watched 3rd set on laptop in bed :)) but wow. And Soda, congrats to him for taking down “the player” of the tournament. He’s going to have his hands full with Fed. Poor Frenchies, two semi-finalists, but I can’t see Monfils making the finals unless he plays out of his mind (or in his mind?).


blank Says:

Feel bad for Llodra. All the French should be proud of his efforts.

Thanks Kimmi. I guess I just trusted Soda to play well indoors. And there is also the luck factor. Now it’s up to our man Fed to go all the way and make us happy!


margot Says:

And now for the really good news…not! I believe Andy goes down to 5 :( :( :( :(


Kimo Says:

jane said:

“but I can’t see Monfils making the finals unless he plays out of his mind (or in his mind?).”

hehehe…that’s pretty funny :)


jane Says:

margot! no I don’t think so. Soda was defending QF points, so he’s gone only 2 rounds deeper, and Murray also went deeper. Plus he had a 600 point lead or so going in. I don’t think Murray goes down!? But 3, 4, and 5 are super close now.


Gannu Says:

So Feddy bear to enter for the next show!


Kimmi Says:

margot – NOT YET. Soda need to win to pass our andy. :(


margot Says:

jane, kimmi: Oh phew, phew, you just saved my weekend! :) :) :)
Think Andy may play quite well in London- surely hope so :)


dimwitted recluse Says:

Colin – I like it!

Kimmi, yeah, my eyes glinted, court open, surely it’s all over, and of course he has to miss a relative sitter. reminded me of Mahut missing his, also relatively easy, match point against Roddick at Queens. Mahut was then dead, Llodra stayed alive for a bit longer but in the end, Soderling had the stronger nerve – Llodra just couldn’t summon the first serve, that’s what did him, I think.

meanwhile reaction on this site, not to mention the French crowd, shows how crucial it is that serve and volley doesn’t just die away. We have the tournament organizers to thank for that. They’ve chosen to have a fast court – an unfashionable choice these days.


Fot Says:

Congrats to Soderling. He came through in the end. I’m nervous for Roger’s match. Someone said Monfils is a counterpuncher for the most part. True, but in the past, Roger seem to have problems with ‘counterpunchers’ more so than the ‘hard hitters’. I just hope Roger’s game continues to be ‘on’ and that he can ‘hush’ the crowd up early.

I do NOT want to see any of that chest/fist/beating that Monfils do. *amen* lol!


Kimmi Says:

On race:

Andy M – 5360
Soda – 4980

If soda wins tomorrow – 5380 (he will pass Andy by 20 points)


dimwitted recluse Says:

Skeezer
“Hope we get some more productive players like him back in the game…..”
Absolutely. They’ll need encouragement, though.


dari Says:

Well, then,kimmi, that makes a couole rwasons whybsoda can’t win tomorrow! If roger wins today, don’t want soda to beat him, and if gael wins today I want him to take the trophy.
So Congrats to soda today and mika, too, he has played so well this week! Best match of the tourney there.
Now….. Go Roger!


Kimmi Says:

wow la monf reall came to play..federer not winning second serves


i am it Says:

Fed is facing a BP in the 1st game? I am not liking it.


dari Says:

Holy Moses this first game is killing me!


margot Says:

Right tactic to come out and try to smack Fed b4 he gets his rhythm going. That’s how Andy does it!


Nina Says:

WOW amazing match by both Llodra and Sod!
It was the first pass to a Masters final for any of them, Sod got it but I’m kinda sad that Llodra lost, he had an amazing run with a brand of tennis that is so rare to see these days. Though it was great to watch while it lasted.

Now Fed… I think he will be cruising in the first set like he usually does. That’s my feeling. Monfils is no match for him on a good or semi good day.

A Sod-Fed final? hmmm…


i am it Says:

Monfils is taking it to Fed, well-disguised drop and a pass, scary stuff!


Nina Says:

Why the hell they’re not showing this on TV? I watched the Llodra-Sod match and I thought they would show Federer’s too. Makes no sense, I feel so aggravated!


i am it Says:

Margot the intelligently sweet, who’re you cheering for? me for Fed, though I like Monfils and he’s playing good.

Where is the squad, Maxi, Conty, Skeeze, etc.?
Hello to Gannu, you gotta do the squad’s job alone until they show up, ready?

Go Fed


skeezerweezer Says:

I am it,

I am here, but I am leavin soon, but have a date to bash my opponent on the tennis court ( i wish )

re; Fed/Monfils shall we just go to the TB already? Both starting to serve like it….lol

Go Fed!


margot Says:

i am it: totally duplicitous me! Like Monfils too but Fed because I think he has Sod’s number and I don’t want Sod to win 2morrow becos of Andy at no 4….and round and round we go in the dance ;)


i am it Says:

Kimmi,
I don’t see a French in the final, forget two. Anything can happen but imo likely not going to happen, even if Monfils is at his best, like he was against A-Rod at Tokyo not long ago.
Add to that Monfils has called the trainer and he is there. Hope he is fine and makes it a match.


margot Says:

my goodness i am it, Monfils is on the floor- r we that powerful??


i am it Says:

Margot says: “I don’t want Sod to win 2morrow becos of Andy at no 4….and round and round we go in the dance ;)”
Is that the line from Jay Sean’s hit or similar sounding techno “Round, round”?
Be that as it may, rest assured Murray is safe at No. 4. If Soda wins the title, he will have just 20 points more than Murray in total, given they retain their YEC points (5780-5760). But Murray may be doing better than Sod at O2. I can see you are trying to be safe.
Go Fed !


Kimmi Says:

monf is playing so well..wow! that FH down the line was big..


i am it Says:

186 Km/Hr forehand winner from Monfils? (8th game, game point)
That was beautiful!


Kimmi Says:

what with the lines people today..federer 3 out of 3 right..


i am it Says:

Fed is winning in his challenges. Is he really getting better, 3 out of 3?


contador Says:

i am it, i am here : )

can’t watch this match. i thought i could becoz i do hope monfils wins but i can’t watch fed lose.

strange as it is:
1) i love monf and hope he wins paris.
2) guessing fed cannot realistically keep the level he has had
3) really don’t want a fed- mr. dimples final
4-10) bf really bugging me abt tennis habit lol!


margot Says:

i am it: yep.
Now Fed’s found his serve and Monfils has lost his chance..only half joking ;) Rafa often puts opponents into serve first and often they lose that game.


Kimmi Says:

monf serving at 82%..wow


Kimmi Says:

tie break…nerves nerves time. go federer


i am it Says:

Conty,
There has to be a rule that both you and Skeeze cannot leave the field at the same time, however good the intent may be.
You say, “can’t watch this match. i thought i could becoz i do hope monfils wins but i can’t watch fed lose.”

Hope Monfils wins? You are suspended from the lofty squad, temporarily:-)
Stay, please, I will do everything to make sure Fed does not lose this match


Daniel Says:

Wow, Monfils is above 80% first serves in.


Gannu Says:

real disaster by fed.. hello i am it… seems our man is not playing well at all today


Daniel Says:

Well seems Fed santa to lose this set. What was this 3 rd class drop?!


dari Says:

Let’s go, Roger! Get this tie break!!!


i am it Says:

Hi Daniel,
Yeah, it looks like a battle of serve, first, and then the follow-up battle of groundies.
I cannot believe how Fed could be that sloppy on the drop volley. Hope he holds his serve here.

How is it in Argentina, I meant Tandil?
Any news on my boy DelPo?


Gannu Says:

Daniel that was a Z class drop!!!


contador Says:

: ) i am it!

11) would really be in trouble, as i do have oj and champagne in the house
12) trying to moderate self

: O !!

monfils – federer. great first set!!


Daniel Says:

Very strange march. They are both not playing great, they are just serving great.


Kimmi Says:

ooh i knew it, it was too close that tie break.

if monfils keep serving this well…he will go on and win this!


Gannu Says:

And fed loses the 1st set… never thought fed would play so badly…

I mean monfils hasnt done anything special to win the 1st set

and commentators aretelling that fed’s timing is off and below par.. i couldnt agree more!!!

Seems Fed needs a rest!!


dari Says:

Not gonna panic. This is a three set deal, roger CAN get better! Second set, let’s go!


margot Says:

well, well, well, wrong-moi ;)
OMG that was an Andy Murray drop shot that was, awful and lost him the set.


i am it Says:

Early return sets up the forehand cross court winner and a set point 1 for Fed, which did not last as Monfils serves like Tildon’s cannon.
Fed plays next point really poorly. Monfils just looks a little sharper and cleaner in his shots. So he takes the set.
Nothing to worry Fed will right it in the next two, I hope so.


Gannu Says:

bad display from fed… he just cant maintain that level of 2004-2007 consistency anymore…


Daniel Says:

Hi I am it. I think you are confusing me with the other Daniel which is a huge DelPo fan, but it is a while since I last saw him here.
Hope the level of the match increases!


blank Says:

Kimmi, I think Federer is out to screw us in the challenge.


i am it Says:

Fed is off a little bit partly because he is not reading/ anticipating Monfils shots well. Can serve alone do it? No, at least he has to cut UEs.
Great overhead smash there, like that.


jane Says:

blank, lol above. Monfils is surprisingly calm, focussed today. Shows what he is capable of when he sets his mind to it. His serving has been exceptional.


i am it Says:

Daniel,
My bad. You are not new, right? Are you the one from 2007 T-X crop? Are you the one who used to do stat with me? I am all confused.


Eric Says:

…she says, and then he double faults twice in a row? Have you stolen Sean’s jinx???


jane Says:

As soon as I said that about his serve, he hits back-to-back doubles. Mum’s the word.


jane Says:

As soon as I said that about his serve, he hits back-to-back doubles. Mum’s the word.


Eric Says:

and again…


contador Says:

fed is outta gas, i imagine. his body must be feeling the past few weeks.

monfils- nice to see him playing great tennis . so much fun to watch him and as i say this…he dF’s


Eric Says:

What is with all these crappy UEs from Federer? geez… I’m kind of liking Monfils to get through here now. Roger looks a tad hungover.


i am it Says:

Thank you, Monfils, a couple more doubles, please. Feel guilty for saying that.
That poor FH from Fed and still cannot take advantage. A couple of times, he had deuce or 40-30 to have a break chance. He cannot keep wasting those chances.


Gannu Says:

wat a boring match.. this entire week i didnt see fed play and i heard he played awesome and now i decided to see him play the SF and he plays so badly.. i am a big jinx for federer… cant see this boring display anylonger… bye fed fans.. off to sleep….


Daniel Says:

Even though Monfils made 2 aces in the last game, when you opponent makes 3 DF in the sane game and you don’t break it is something really wrong with your game.


margot Says:

eric: Fed looks tired doesn’t he?


Daniel Says:

Yeah I am it, I am that one, have the math in my genes.


margot Says:

jane: commentators always seem to do that sort of thing, have you noticed? Say x is playing remarkably well, suddenly x drops 3 games :)


Eric Says:

Margot, yeah that’s probably a more realistic assessment than ‘hungover’. ;) But he definitely is looking rather sluggish and unenergetic. Perhaps Monfils arranged with the hotel staff to drug Murray and Federer’s breakfasts? (joking…)

Contador is right, probably just too much tennis. This is the fourth day in a row he’s played, right?


contador Says:

he did play awsome Gannu! really the best federer tennis i have seen in years for the entire stepanek match and stepanek showed superb atheletics plus a s & v fest.

could see just the slight drop in fed’s movement yesterday 2nd against melzer. melzer up’d his level and fed started to get a little shaky.

on the other hand, monfils has been getting better all week, as has robin.


i am it Says:

I still have hope but Monfils looks scary strong and unfazed by the occasion.


contador Says:

s/b 2nd set against melzer and pardon the spelling errors

cant type watching this match!


madmax Says:

well, roger will do the best he can – at this point, am not surprised he’s tired. Monfils is well rested after so many injuries and it’s great to see him back – monfils is the crowd pleaser today.

C’mon roge though. let’s rock! SF’s is a great result, but would be cool to go one step further –

Margot, I think Andy goes to No.4 not 5? I might be wrong.


Fot Says:

Monfils is serving really well. High percentage and all. Can he keep it up? I hope not! lol! We need a break!!!!!!!!!! Roger hasn’t been that close to Monfil’s serve all match.


Fedend Says:

Federer should organize ATP-250 tournaments in his backyard and in around Basel so that he can gain some points. He is never going to win any other tourneys, forget abt masters or slams.


madmax Says:

sorry. no. 3 from no.4.


Fot Says:

Roger just can not get close to breaking Monfil’s serve. Of all the times when Monfils picks to play great – it had to be against my Roger *mad*! lol!


margot Says:

eric: oh the cunning French! I knew there was a reason 4 Andy losing, other than not getting to bed till 3am of course ;)


Fot Says:

Fedend…Roger did win a slam this year and a master’s event this year. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean Roger is ‘dead’. He has been playing great up to this match – in fact, far better than all the other ‘young guns’ some claim will win everything. So there!


jane Says:

Eric, lol, not only did i seemly jinx la Monf into 2 doubles, somehow I posted my self-deprecation twice.

margot, yes, and then commentators struggle to get foot out of mouth (e.g., well that level was bound to drop sometime, or so and so always has lapses, etc), kind of like I am doing. Though Monfils vindicated himself / his serve. :)


i am it Says:

Gannu Says: “wat a boring match.. this entire week i didnt see fed play . . . he plays so badly… bye fed fans.. off to sleep….”

I was like that a couple of years ago, until mid ’07.
That’s normal, at a certain stage.
Now watch how Fed turns it around.
Stat hopeful. I am.


Fot Says:

I have to give it to Monfils today – he is serving great. Better than I’ve seen him in a long time.


Fot Says:

I am it – I’m staying hopeful too – but time is winding down. He needs to come on with it.


Eric Says:

Now it’s Monfils racketing up errors. Can Federer get a look at a break chance here?


Eric Says:

Well guess not.


i am it Says:

Fed has a point to challenge Monfils’ return, which may have been out, instead of his own long.
He had a chance to earn a BP. Unlucky him.


contador Says:

this would be quite a coup for lamonf to beat andy and then, dare i say it fed and possibly soda…

the parisian crowd gets kudos, of course! they are rowdy but mr. dimples was able to silence them. they showed respect for the ice man

wow…..not quite over yet though.


margot Says:

Love it when camera cuts to Roger Rachid, usually has WTF look on his face!


blank Says:

Roger looks grumpy and disinterested. The only reason he is still out there is because of his serve. FH is pretty poor today.


Kimo Says:

This is the most mature performance I’ve ever seen from Gael!


madmax Says:

c’mon federer – completely understand that you are tired man, but hey, let’s go for the push.

Aside, it is great to see monfils playing so well – after all his injuries – and with tsonga out due to injury – he is flying the french flag!

Oh, but I would love fed to pull it off – he just seems to be a bit lethargic today – but keep on believing.

ganna, worst case scenario, he gets extra rest for the O2, he’s still gained points in paris which is the plan and it’s not over yet –

you don’t jinx his matches, silly! He has been playing great all week, and prior to that in basel and stockholm, so don’t be down on him!

This is the Fed! The mighty Fed!

Go Fed!


dari Says:

Come on, Roger, dig it out! You can do this!


Eric Says:

Fed is definitely making some weird choices out there. But meanwhile, yeah man! I hope Gael (if he gets there) trashes Soderling. Time for the Mercutio of tennis to get his Paris title.


Dory Says:

I think Roger is playing a bit too fast today. I mean he always plays very fast but he’s hurrying himself into lots of UEs because of the extreme pace. Monfils on the other hand looks actually interested in winning than entertaining the crowd.


madmax Says:

dimwitted recluse,

you remember what you said about nick Lester?

I really don’t like his commentating here on sky. The guy’s voice. Irritating.


i am it Says:

11th Game 2nd set:
Monfils serves great but Fed follows his BH with an amazing FH down the line. 0-15. Monfils sort of S & V twice in a row. 30-15. Wild FH from Fed while he could go cross court. 40-15. 2nd serve and pass because Fed rushed in, a bad move.
12th game.
Fed holds and another tie breaker.Hope this time Fed wins.


madmax Says:

tie break,

here we go again.

great footwork fed.

he still wants this!


Kimo Says:

Roger is trying to fire himself up…


i am it Says:

Fed had a mini break but gives back with poor return.


madmax Says:

I’m just going to sit back and enjoy this now. What will be will be.

Come on fed.


Kimo Says:

Yes Roger, let’s gooooooooo.


Eric Says:

And earns it back with interest :)


jane Says:

Awww, poor Monfils is likely to lose now; major momentum shift in this tiebreak.


Kimo Says:

Monfils has been playing unusually good today. Roger is not as good as he was over the past two weeks, but as long as that serve of his is firing, he’s got a shot.


i am it Says:

Good, Fed takes back the mini break plus 1 more. 4-1. Let’s see if he holds his both serves. He does the 1st. 5-1. Does the 2nd. 6-1.
Five set points.
He takes it in the 1st instance. We are going the distance. Amazing stuff.


Dory Says:

GO ROGER GO!!!!!! I really hope he wins this Paris Masters so he will equal Nadal’s 18 and leave only 2 of the clay court Masters 1000 not win. 7 out of 9 Masters 1000s won! Who has a record like that? Nadal is close though.


madmax Says:

Woot Jane! Woot!

Gannu!

Silly!

Fed got the second set.

Now it’s MAJOR LEAGUE!

Go fed!

I am in awe of the man. His shots – under pressure – is there really anyone else like him?

I thought soderling played really well under pressure – saving 3 match points – but Fed.

WOW.


Eric Says:

Okay, now we might have a match. And Federer finally looks energetic and determined for a stretch of a few minutes.

By the way, i don’t know what all the people praising his match against Stepanek were watching. I thought most of the first set was horrible. Both of them were playing crappily and slowly. I almost thought my stream was on slow motion for a while. I guess the second set must have been better.


Kimo Says:

Roger has 17 winners to 5 UEs? Didn’t look like he was playing that well!!!

Wierd.


dari Says:

I’m glad he won that second set, but am generally worried about his energy for the third! Anyway, its nice to see him get out of jams. Better eat a bite of banana or something, rog!


jane Says:

Amazing – 5 tiebreak sets in a row in these semis. Indicative of fast court = big serving, no breaks.

It’s level now. You gotta like Fed’s odds.

“Love it when camera cuts to Roger Rachid, usually has WTF look on his face!” – LOL margot, so true. Must be crazy coaching la Monf!


madmax Says:

Jane! Stop putting the Kybosh on this match! :)

It’s close! The way SF’s should be! The match is really enjoyable.


dari Says:

Oh, looks like Rog just came back from the loo. So THAT was theproblem


madmax Says:

Nick Lester’s voice. Why have they got him commentating!

Margot do you know what I mean?

Roger, do it!


contador Says:

total domination in that tie break by federer!

what happened monfils??

i hope that self-consciousness seen too much with monfils isn’t creeping in. federer is vulnerable today.

but…. if fed wins i won’t cry.

might cry tomorrow…. would like soda to get a masters title this year.

l laughed at that bleacher writer who picked soda!


Eric Says:

Kimo, yeah, I agree. These guys are being pretty generous in deciding what was ‘forced’ for Federer I guess. :)

Someone is going to let their guard for just a minute in this last set on serve and it’ll all be over. No real way to tell who it will be… hope Federer comes through after all, although that first set was rather dire.


Gannu Says:

madmax.. i am still there.. how can i leave feddy bear like this ;-)


madmax Says:

dari,

yup, he needed the loo! :)


contador Says:

oh i dunno. reasons to celebrate no matter who wins.


i am it Says:

Did I say hello Maxi? I know I don’t deserve one this week.


Kimo Says:

jane, the 2nd set in Soda/Llodra was 7-5.


margot Says:

Ah, unwise to count Fed out. Monfils’ serve drops and he pounces! Agree jane, looks like Fed now but…what brilliant semis, both so competitive and difficult to call.


Gannu Says:

and good to see you.. it seems you post very less during fed’s matches these days ;-)

Good to see some sting in feddy bear’s shots in the opening game!

Come on fed.. take this.. iknow u are tired… you have a whole week to relax ! ;-)


i am it Says:

Go Fed and break Monfils in the opening. I see it happening, me hoping.


jane Says:

Fed’s taking more advantage of Monfils’ moonballs now, as his forehand seems to be clicking more now. Also, as soon as Monfils starts falling on the court, doing the splits, things about to take a nosedive for him. Finally, he can’t seem to buy a first serve a.t.m. This is looking all but over.


Kimo Says:

Fed breaks!!! There’s the good the ol’ Monf. I was wondering where he was :P


i am it Says:

Fed will run away with the match now with that break. 2-0. 3-0, etc.


Eric Says:

Oh my god the play on that break point was tight. Quality stuff…. but the man in lilac pounces! Now to finish the kill.


Gannu Says:

wow… feddy bear is back.. i am it , madmax, contador, skeez, huh, kimmi and all othr fed fans…!!! our man has hit 7th gear..

where is that coward deadend!! ;-)


dari Says:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS! fed had to move around quite a bit to get that bp, but he got it! Seriously, though, Fed much better after that bathroom break!


contador Says:

federer shotmaking in that stepanek match was classic. steps was playing well. true, never felt federer was in danger but i got to sit back and admire fed’s movement, his shot selection, serving… the whole match. thoroughly enjoyed it,

except for the stepanekshirt!

steps cleans up nicely
http://orvillelloyddouglas.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/nicole-vaidasova-wedding-ii.jpg

meanwhile, what has happened to la monf? :/


margot Says:

Hmm, looks like g’bye Gael. Shows how crucial serving is.
Interesting how less partisan the crowd is for this one too.


i am it Says:

I am pleased that Fed broke by outplaying la Monf, not waiting for his UEs, though that’s what happened at the end of that 2nd game 3rd set.
3-love. Loving it.


Eric Says:

Assuming everything goes as expected Fed now should take this last set 6-3. A bit sad for Monfils – I love him – and this was the kind of match b oth players could easily have won. Still. Let’s go Roger, I think you need another trophy for your exhibition hall.


Daniel Says:

Dory,

As of now, Fed has 7 different Masters titles:
IW, Miami, Hamburg – back them, Mardid – clay, Madrid – hard, Canada, Cincy) with final in all of them, including Shangai this year. He was runner up in Monte carlo 06′-08′, Rome 04′, 06′ and 07′ and Shangai 2010.
If he wins today he will be the first player to have played final in all master events, including Hamubrg, which is no longer a master and Madrid in two differnet surfaces. And if he wins tomorrow he will have won 8 different Masters.

Nadal also has titles in 7 different Masters:
IW, Monte Carlo, Rome, Hamburg – back them, Madrid – clay, Canada, Madrid – hard), with finals in all events, except Cincinatti. He was runner up in Miami 05′ and 09′, Shangai 09′and Paris 07′.


contador Says:

oh to be sure, the troll lurks. sarcasm ready to roll off the troll. no doubt.


Daniel Says:

Monfils missed his first 3 serves in the tiebreak, which cost him the macth. Until that point he wasn’t missinf firts serves at all. I even said to my Mom, Fed’s only chance is if Monfils feels the pressure when it gets close to winning, whgich he did at 6-6 tiebreak second set.


i am it Says:

Daniel,
You were ultra-timely to pull out that stat. You must have it in your archive. Hamburg/ Madrid count as the same or two, depending on how you want to argue.
Good news is Fed will be in the finals of all Masters in a couple of minutes?


Dory Says:

Daniel, Hamburg was moved to Madrid and Madrid to Shanghai. The total number of Masters 1000s in one years is always 9, never 10. Now both Nadal and Fed have won at both HA/MA and MA/SH but if you consider the tournament by its organizers, they have won 6 different/unique tournaments. If you consider the venues where they were played, both have won 7. I hope you understand what I mean. :)


Kimmi Says:

just when i am starting to enjoy the match..tennistv shuts off..what the??#$%^&


Eric Says:

Daniel, actually, Monfils’ serve was at a much lower level all second set, not just in the tiebreaker. % in fell by like 20% and the points won off it fell as well. Was not just the TB.


margot Says:

madmax: am listening to koenig and goodall I think, like them.


i am it Says:

Conty,
We should leave Fedbegins alone. It is not our T-X tradition to harass incessantly a dissenting voice. That’s just my opinion.


Kimo Says:

Fed better not lose his concentration.


Kimmi Says:

hold pls federer


Daniel Says:

I got it Dory, but if you go by what satnds now, Nadal and Fed miesses 4 titles (Rome, Monte Carlo, Shangai and Paris for Fed), (Miami, Cincy, Shangai and Paris for Nadal).
My point was to show that both Nadal and Fed misses only one final until today (Nadal in cincy and Fed in Paris).
If fed wins tomorrow he will be the most sucessfull player in Masters event, havinag achieve final in all, even with changes and missing only 3 events (Rome, Monte Carlo and Shangai).


Gannu Says:

Looks like fed is gonna screw this match… his usual tendency these days!!!


Gannu Says:

and he does it!!


Eric Says:

LA MONF! Seriously though, I hope Federer can break back. Whoops…


Kimmi Says:

break! just like that..oh no


contador Says:

monfils ready to break back!

federer hit an amazing cross court backhand winner and then hit a forehand long! missed first serves…

now the crowd is rewarded . they love monfils!


Daniel Says:

well, IF fed wins this match!:)


Kimo Says:

It’s not the forehand that’s troubling Federer, Koenig. His first serve has gone AWOL.


dari Says:

Gael trying to make it interesting… break him back, rog!


margot Says:

Spoke too soon, Monfils refuses to go away quietly!


i am it Says:

Fed facing a deuce suddenly? Now 2nd serve and Monfils sets up for a big FH 171 Km/hr cross court. And then misses easy FH wide and loses the game.
High quality stuff from Monfils.
As long as Fed wins, I am liking the battle.


Gannu Says:

i am tired… wats the point in harping that a 2005-2007 fed would have never ever done that… guess we fed fans have to live with such pathetic loss of consentartion for the rest of his career now… really fed why cant u make things simple??


jane Says:

Ditto margot. Agree with what Kimo said above; other than that one incident of the splits, this has been a very mature perormance from Monfils, and win/lose, he shuold be proud. Would love to see him get a big win here, but I still feel like Roger will edge him out. Still, all credit to him for making this another very interesting match!


contador Says:

” athletic specimen” says keonig!

have to agree there. and they are going nuts in paris!

federer has to have ice in veins like soda pop,

i think fed is tired…has to be.


i am it Says:

Suddenly the momentum shifts to Monfils. 6 points in a row. Everything is working for him.
Fed cannot afford to be careless any more.


Kimmi Says:

wow monfilos hitting some great winners again…federer better hold here


jane Says:

Kimo – true about Soda/Llodra – close to a tiebreak but not quite; thanks for correcting me.


i am it Says:

Fed has to break in the next game and close it out. Gotta use that perfect timing. Praying he does.


Gannu Says:

contador…not only fed is tired even i am tired… ;-) its 12:15am in Mumbai and i am having a severe headache.. and fedex is adding further to that… ;-).. Feddy bear please break now and take the match… i want to sleep well.. pls dont screw it up ;-)


steve-o Says:

Good effort by Monfils to come back into it.


Huh Says:

Come on Fed!


Daniel Says:

Why can’t Fed hit a flat forehand anymore?


Gannu Says:

Huh u there! its the first post seen in ages i gues from you ;-)


Fedend Says:

Even with all his gamesmanship (bathroom break) to break the opponents game he is still strugling against a player outside of top 10.


Kimo Says:

Here’s what pisses me about Gael: He has a shot of winning the biggest match of probably his life, yet he still slides and throws rackets at balls!!!


Huh Says:

Kimo:

U needn’t be pissed if he’s not willing to win today! :P


Gannu Says:

Well Fedend..your a$$ picker lost against melzer and baghdatis who were outside top 10 and ofcourse lopez!!!! and yes he has also lost to monfils..etc… so please keep your foul mouth shut.. it stinks!!!


Kimo Says:

Fedend said:

“Even with all his gamesmanship (bathroom break) to break the opponents game he is still strugling against a player outside of top 10.”

Um…what are you taking about? Fed won the TB. Fed had the momentum.

Have you considered that maybe he just had to go? Which reminds me, I’ve got a little gamesmanship of my own to attend to right now…


Kimo Says:

Huh – I never want anyone to beat Fed, but I just don’t like players to ruin there own chances!!!


Gannu Says:

feddy bear please break him… i cant bear to see a tiebreak,., have a weak heart ;-)


Eric Says:

Guys, don’t feed the troll. Fedend isn’t exactly looking to engage in reasoned discussion; s/he is just an idiot.

Now we will see Fed and Monf coming down to the wire…


Daniel Says:

Well, the God’s favors their sons…


Huh Says:

Fed’s playing awful. :(


Kimmi Says:

missed FH..oh noooooooooo


Kimo Says:

We’re doing great Fedend. Thanks.


Eric Says:

ARGH again! ARGH say I!


Kimmi Says:

I hope this wont bite federer…losing match points is not good


Gannu Says:

disaster… really disgusted.. fedend please get out from this forum.. ursole objective isto ridicule fed


Huh Says:

Well, gamemanship is a word I found much more associated with Fed’s greatest rival. Yes? No? Let’s Go!


Daniel Says:

I can not believe that Forehand, just because I ask for a flat onew he hit the match point in the net. He just need to pass the ball to the pther side and the most Monfils would do is return up with fed in the net. Amazing!

Now, again the gods showing us their will, the fifth net cord which favors Fed.


Gannu Says:

third MP lost!!


Daniel Says:

COME ON!!!!


Gannu Says:

well said Huh!


blank Says:

Every matchpoint Fed has had a 2nd serve and lost!


jane Says:

Kimo, “I just don’t like players to ruin there own chances!!!” – yeah, it’s always sad to see this, particularly in a player of Monfils’ potential. Considering he won 3 of the 4 slams as a junior, he’s not really lived up to what we know he is capable of. Having said that, he did just fight off 4 match points, all on second serves (his first serve percentage has plummeted this set), which is more than you’d think he’d've been able to do in the past. Still think Fed will edge him out on this 4th match point.

But maybe Monfils will come around next year and get a big win? Sure hope so.


Kimmi Says:

this is NOT looking good


Fedend Says:

Well Federer has the habit of taking bathroom breaks when he wants to disrupt his opponent.
But he doesnt take bathroom breaks against Rafa. Fed just pisses in his shorts due to fear of facing Rafa.


Gannu Says:

thats the fourth one!!! this is just unbelievable.. so many matches fed has been losing this year with MPs in hand…


Huh Says:

Allwill be well if Fed wins, not so much if he doesn’t! I think if Fed wins today, the tournament is his, gut feelin kinda thing. But will Fed win?


contador Says:

when the “dissenting voice” is someone who shows up at fed matches to with self admitted intent provoke fed “tards,” i don;t consider myself harassing him/her but that poster is a troll, i am it. pardon me for expressing my opinion in response to the anti fan, but there it is.

brave and mature play from monfils!

sorry Gannu. this is tough!


Daniel Says:

blank, Let’s hope for a first serve then and Fed hit with reflex a return winner


Eric Says:

Why can’t Federer play at ad Fed like he does at deuce? c’mon, I’m going to have a heart atatck.


Gannu Says:

and the fifth one.. i am close to a cardiac arrest now!


Eric Says:

AND my stream just stopped working! What timing! Argh!


Huh Says:

Seems like people here keenly observe about how Fed pees and sh##s, lol!


blank Says:

Daniel, I hope that happens in the breaker:)


Daniel Says:

tiebreak,

Now Monfils deserves this.


Gannu Says:

If fed loses this i am going to be PISSSSSSSSSSSSSSED OFF… this is ultimate torture…Now bloddy win this tie break federer


Huh Says:

#### you tennis gods!


Dory Says:

Oh dear! 3rd set tiebreak. I can’t watch 2 super semis in succession with full concentration due to over excitement.


Kimmi Says:

tie break….this is NOT Good

c’mon, it will be sad to finish like llodra.

feeling sorry for fed already


Fedend Says:

Thats because Fed pees on a tennis court while playing Rafa.


i am it Says:

Please break here, Fed. Good start from Fed, 0-30. Luck is on our side. Good rally. Missed easy FH. 15-30. Should have won that point. Next, his FH cross court from mid court earns him 2 MPs. Misses FH into the net. 30-40. Monfils forces Fed to throw BH wide. Deuce. 2nd serve. Fed got lucky with the net chord. 3rd MP. Misses BH slice into the net. Deuce 2. 2nd serve. Puts away FH in the corner. 4th MP. 2nd serve. BH long.
Deuce 3. How could you not convert 1?
Nice rally, outplays Monfils. 5th MP. Monfils outplays Fed, forces a long squash.
Deuce 4. Good rally. Fed’s slice approach floats wide/long.
Game point and big ACe down the T from Monfils wins the game and into the tie breaker, a 3rd one.


Daniel Says:

This will be way worts than Berdy and Baghy, because he had the point in his hand.


Vulcan Says:

No matter what happens here that should be the last time anybody accuses Monfils of lacking mettle.


steve-o Says:

Ugh. So many missed chances. Now Monfils has a great shot at the upset.


Kimo Says:

If Fed loses, we can definitely dub 2010 “The year Fed lost several matches where he had match points”.


jane Says:

Exciting match – both should win. : )


Huh Says:

Tennis distracts you from studies. ;)


Huh Says:

‘jane Says:
Exciting match – both should win. : )’

POST OF THE DAY! :D


contador Says:

2 3 set thrillers today!!


Kimmi Says:

federer losing..oh noooo!

la monf year this year


i am it Says:

Fed starts great, Ace. 1-0. Monfils replies with his own. 1-1. Sadly Fed has not been able to take advantage of Monfils’ 2nd serve. Now Monfils takes a mini. 3-2.
Stay positive, Fed.


madmax Says:

chill. great match. who cares?


Huh Says:

‘Fedend Says:
Thats because Fed pees on a tennis court while playing Rafa.’

Oh really? Only if I coulda known things so well like you! ;)


Dory Says:

Btw how many has RF lost this year from match point, I don’t rememeber.


Daniel Says:

Monfiuls is doing to Fed what Murray and Nadal do.


Huh Says:

Come on Fed!


jane Says:

Nerve-wracking!


i am it Says:

Did you see Fed is doing poorly with Monfils’ 2nd serve? Then, Monfils blasts down the line FH. But misses an easy one. Fed gets his break back. But throws one wild FH and gives back the break right away. 5-4. Mofils has the match on his racket.


madmax Says:

as close as it gets.

Right. Be reasonable. What matches has fed won this year? What matches has monfils won this year? Who is the most tired, who has the most energy. Comon Fed

Fed’s forehand!

Okay Matchpoint.

Lets get this over and done with!

5 MATCH POINTS, cannot believe it!


Kimmi Says:

match points la monf…

what a come back…


Gannu Says:

and the misery ends!!!!


Kimmi Says:

lose a match with 4 or is it 5 match points….i hope he wins tomorrow!


contador Says:

monfils!!!!

so sad for fed but happy for la monf. great play!!


Dory Says:

W T F!!!!!!!!! NO@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RF you have got jinxed by someone for losing from match point!!!! I have lost trust in your forehand AND backhand.


Daniel Says:

Worst Federer defeat since AO 2009.

Although Wimbledon 2010 first round agaisnt Falla was the most heart attack match for a Fed fan ever.


Kimo Says:

Congrats Gael. He was the better player today. Roger was too casual out there, hitting too many UEs.

Maybe this will be the match where bad-boy Gael finally becomes a man. I sure hope so.


Gannu Says:

really fed u once again screwed my sleep and weekend… this is the fourth mathc u re losing with MPs??? Just stunned.. soon you will have records even on that front…


Fedend Says:

Gannu and FEDTARDS,
If you guys are too desperate to see Federer win then better hope Fed is allowed to play against Mirka to win major tournaments. Thats his only hope.


Eric Says:

I know I said I would be happy if Monfils won…but not like this. Federer deserved that last set with his amazing performance in the last game. But then he played like shit on every match point, after the first one when his forehand winnert-to-be went just into the net. Crappy luck for Federer, but I hope Monfils can repeat this tomorrow in the final.


madmax Says:

Wow.

It’s all good people. What an unbelievable TWO SEMI FINALS!

CLOSE AS IT COULD BE.

C’est la vie!

Be brave fed fans. Forget the backlash.

Exhausting stuff. I really am done.

cannot believe those 5 match points. What is going on ?

Federer really has to sort this one out, in good time. He will.

Rest now and reflect later.

Fedend, I absolutely love your comments because it shows you care!

Jane, see what you did!

always one match at a time.

congrats to monfils


Vulcan Says:

Monfils showed some serious concentration there not letting those let cords get him down


i am it Says:

Another wild FH from Fed and he loses the match. Another big serve. Monfils does it. I am sad.
Fed simply could not utilize those 5 MPs, all of them 2nd serve.
Congrats to Monfils. Kudos to Fed for playing a little less than great tennis but still good.


jane Says:

Awww, means a lot to Monfils. Huge win for him!! Congrats. I sure hope he wins the title now, no offense to Soda, but it would be just fantastic to see Gael back this up with his first Masters – at home!

Sorry to Fed and his fans, but that was a very fun and well contested match, and do take heart: he just won back-to-back titles and has been in finals in Shanghai. His form has looked excellent. Many good things to take away, imo.


Gannu Says:

Really fed… something is wrong… u just cant play those big points well… bye fed fans… really disgusted frustrated and pissed off.. any bye to the a$$hole Fedend too..!!


Huh Says:

‘If you guys are too desperate to see Federer win then better hope Fed is allowed to play against Mirka to win major tournaments. Thats his only hope.’

Or may be you or Xisca! ;)


jane Says:

Sean! You got one!!


Eric Says:

jane, exactly. And hopefully he will be carrying a chip on his shoulder into London, motivating a rather better show than last year…


bstevens Says:

Even as a Fedfan, you just have to give congrats to Monfils. Saved 5 match points! Deserved to win.


dari Says:

Ok, well, I’m going to start getting scared when fed has match points in tight matches. They seem to be a curse ;)
Oh well I suppose, but really, Roger, FIVE match points?
Anyway, glad Gael made it to the final, he better win the darn thing.
Why can’t roger seem to find a way through these days?!
I suppose a pretty good fall season and better at Bercy this year than ever.
Go to bed, Roger, and kick ASS in London, please!


madmax Says:

gannu,

you honestly don’t really feel like that. C’mon. Fed played brilliantly for the last 3 tournaments, you cannot play at this high lever forever!

And for fedend’s benefit – rafa couldn’t put himself through another tournament, he had to rest – fed can now rest and regroup for the O2. He has a week off now.

Monfils has had months of rest and I am really pleased that he played ‘proper’ tennis tonight. Too much of a showman but today, he played serious. Really serious from the get go.

Be happy gannu. Really. Roger hasn’t got anything else to prove to anyone.

Try to see things more clearly. Enjoy the way he is playing. Today was just not his day.


steve-o Says:

Congrats to Monfils.

As for mettle, everyone has more mettle when they play Federer. He’s the biggest scalp out there and beating him, even in a three set match, can be the highlight of a player’s career.

Would Guillermo Canas be remembered at all if he hadn’t beaten Federer twice? No one would know his name at all otherwise.


Sean Randall Says:

What a match. What a day of tennis. I need to catch my breath!


Fedend Says:

Huh,
Agree with u, only then he will have a chance.
WTA is lacking quality players, hope Fed gets to play there.


madmax Says:

dari Says:
Ok, well, I’m going to start getting scared when fed has match points in tight matches. They seem to be a curse ;)
Oh well I suppose, but really, Roger, FIVE match points?

dari,

Llodra was in the same position wasn’t he? 3 MATCH POINTS which he squandered – does anyone ever mention that? No.

Fed’s had match points this year and come through. He’ll talk it through with his coach but right now, I reckon all he wants and needs is a rest.

Great SF action today!


Kimmi Says:

i really hope this is the begining of la monf…we have been talking about talent for ages but he never delivered.

Go win tomorrow la monf….

soda beat la monf in valencia something like 6-2 6-1…hmmm, he better come prepared tomorrow.


i am it Says:

Finally, after all these years, Sean sounds happy for “my man Monfils” but you are a Fed fan, too, right? Must be difficult to balance the emotions. Breath: Take your time sort them out.


margot Says:

Well played Monfils, well played! But both guys made a tremendously exciting match full of drama, and the other semi as good! Tennis won today. Just hope Monfils has enough left in the tank for tomorrow. Guess he’ll still be pumped on adrenalin :)
And…feel a lot better about Andy’s loss now, perhaps it’s just Monfils’ moment.;)


madmax Says:

Fedend Says:
Huh,
Agree with u, only then he will have a chance.
WTA is lacking quality players, hope Fed gets to play there.

November 13th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

Fedend you’re so caring. I thought I might return the favour. Precisely one year ago Rafa had lost his last 11 games against top 10 opponents.

Lost to Fed in madrid
Lost to delpotro in montreal
Lost to Djokovic in Cincinnati
Lost to Del Potro in USOpen
Lost to Davydenko in Shanghai
Lost to Djokovic in Paris
Lost to Soderling in the group stages
Lost to Davydenko in the next round
Lost to Djokovic in the next round
Lost to Davydenko in Doha.

11 matches in a row.

When was the last time that happened to Fed? oooh, I think about 7 years ago?

We all know what happened to rafa after these tough, tough losses.

I don’t think Roge is going to lose any sleep.

Have a nice night.


Fedend Says:

Federer really needs to take rest after those wins against unknown players in those small tournaments (250).


jane Says:

madmax, you’re right; Fed doesn’t have anything to prove to anyone anymore. Full stop. So he lost a very tight match.? Monfils played the most composed I’ve seen him play maybe ever (though he played similarly versus Nole in the finals last year, and also versus Roger at the FO in 2008 – he loves to play in front of his “home” crowd, and of course he does!). Plus Fed just won two titles and was in finals in Shanghai.


Gannu Says:

thanks madmax.. loveur positive attitude.. ;;-) just cant maintain that.. i want fed to win every mathc that he plays… ;-) neways its ok.. nowadays his losses dont affect me as much as it usedto… the worst was the wimby final of 2008… man i would have cried months thinking abt that match and the trauma that i undewent ;-)

Anyways hope fed gets better and plays well in London.. thats imp!! will be there to cheer him ofcourse and yes madmax i know you will also be there


Dory Says:

RF has lost 4 matches I think this year from match point?
Baghdatis – Indian Wells third round
Berdych – Miami fourth round
Djokovic – US Open semi final
Monfils – Paris Masters semi final
But all 4 of them played spectacular against him in their matches I believe.

Such a heartbreak to see RF lose when he was this close to winning Paris.


jane Says:

“And…feel a lot better about Andy’s loss now, perhaps it’s just Monfils’ moment.;)” margot, feel the same; and felt the same when Llodra showed his win was meant to be and kept going, nearly (so close!) making it an all-French final.


madmax Says:

yeah you’re right fedend. it’s just great that care about him so much. take care won’t you?


Fedend Says:

FEDTARDS,
Dont lose your heart and cry like Federer. He will get his chance to win when he plays Mirka and his daughters in his home.


Jatt Says:

What can one say? Fed was up a break in 3rd set.Comfortably leading 3-0 and then loses his one service game. Last game had 5 match points and could not convert one..And it were most of them shanked forehands and backhands when he clearly was in control of the rally. If you can’t grab 5 MP and a game break in a tight match like this, sorry fed you don’t deserve to go in finals. Congrats to Gael on this big one..


Gannu Says:

mamdamx just ignore fedend.. no point in putting out statistics etc… We all know where fed stands and the unbelievable benchmark used to judge ONLY him.. no one ever including the a$$picker can ever achive that consistency that fed achieved….


Fedend Says:

Mada$$,
After all those losses he came back to win 3 slams in a row. Do you think Federer can do that ?
He may win three in a row against Mirka.


i am it Says:

Maxi,
You seem to be arguing with an unarguable existence. You are not trying to convince him, are you?
I said hello above, long time ago. Are you that maxed-out Mad with me?


Vulcan Says:

A good run for Federer leading up to O2 – he should be brimming with confidence…was gearing up for another barn burner with Soderling like their USO match but twas not to be.


Gannu Says:

The biggest a$$hole Fedend… do you think the a$$pikcer can be

1)No 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
2)Can reach 23 consecutive Gslam Semis.. well the loser hasnt even reached 5… so let him cross that first
3) can he reach 10 consecutive gslam finals?? the loser hasnt even reached 4 lol ;-)
4) Can he get the stefan edberg sportsmanship awars 6 times? he hasnt even won one
5) Can he win two gslams 5 timnes in a row… the a$$picker hasnt even won his favourite french open

Oh these are just 10% of feddy bear;s records which ur a$$picker will NEVER ACHIEVE.. sulk and drown in ur sorrow…


Von Says:

This was absolutely the best match of this tournament, and Monfils deserved the win. He played with his heart and did not engage in his usual showmanship and histrionics. It’s amazing what he can do when he puts his mind to the task. I think he is finally beginning to show his potential and placing things in perspective. He’s finally demonstrating his tennis abilities and making tennis his No. 1 priority, and leaving the clowning around on the back burner. Great job La Monf, hope you win tomorrow.


dimwitted recluse Says:

What an astonishing match. And yet it seemed a bit flat at first. I thought Monfils should have wrapped it up in two. It’s not often you can say Fed is outserved when he’s actually serving well, but that’s the impression I got. But then Federer’s experience came to his aid in the tiebreak.

The 7th game in the 3rd was critical. When Monfils broke back, Fed was totally unable to find a first serve – and Monfils took advantage. When the boot was on the other foot, Federer failed, despite the help given by those absurd net cords. (Incidentally, I give credit to Federer for the double fault Monfils started that game with – he returned the first serve like a rocket,so Monfils went for too much on the 2nd). Yes, 2nd serve after 2nd serve, and Fed failed to take advantage. In fact when Monfils finally got a first serve in, Fed won the point. But too late.

The tie break was ridiculously exciting, but again we saw Monfils basically outplaying Federer from the back. His defence was just outstanding, he absorbed the heavy punches from Fed and then, when the opportunity arose, struck the killer blow. It’s always been the case with Monfils that he finds it difficult to get the balance right between aggression and defence – today he did it to perfection. He was a very worthy winner.

There were some interesting battles within the battle. Monfils, so far as I could see, won all the cat and mouse exchanges, and I’ve no doubt this touched Fed’s pride – provoking him into unecessary further attempts at turning the tables when more suitable shots were available.

Contador, what’s it like now Monfils has done it? I said I didn’t mind if Monfils won, I admire and like him so much, but the old instincts struck in, and I was right on the edge willing Federer to win. Still, too bad. And I do hope Monfils can bring his wonderful, unique brand of tennis to the grand slams. To me, he is the most gifted of them all.


Twocents Says:

The French mobs definitely deserve a spot in a final in Paris, after their great shows in USO and DC. Sad sad for Llodra. But big cheers to Sean’s man.

If you look at all those guys who lost to Fed 10+ times, you’d accept that tough losses like today are in fact long over dued. Unless you do buy the weak era theory, which I don’t, these are good good competitors and Fed lucked out many of the wins over them in the past. But luck is not one way, not always.

Hardcore Fedtard I am, I also think one big reason that Fed lost many close encounters not because he’s a choker, but because he is too competitive: in many of those close matches Fed was so bad that he had no business of making them even close, but somehow, he often managed to make them close, and lost. Examples: TMC05 final, WO08, etc. Fed should have lost in two today with all his shanks. Proud that he made it to 5 MPs!

La monf was the better player, and he won. Congrats.


Twocents Says:

Rafa did not cry. He just retired. What a man!


dari Says:

Madmax, of course roger won matches with mp’s this year. ;)
It’s just that there has been four or five of them like that, I dont know if that is true for llodra. Besides, for TODAY that’s a fine comparison, but otherwise we should not be comparing fed’s mistakes to llodra’s.
Five match points is still more than three! I’m not toooo sad, just a little disappointed, really thought he could add another masters here.
Anyway, its great the French have one of their guys in the final. Go, Gael!


Ben Pronin Says:

Great match from Monfils. From the few flashes my stream would show me, it looked like Monfils was completely focused and wasn’t over-celebrating on anything. Surely he deserved the win.

However, I can’t jump on his bandwagon just yet. He showed similar composure during his run last year and almost beat Djokovic in a tight-end final. So it seems like he can bring it here, just like he was able to bring it at the French Open a few years ago. But I’d like to see him post these kind of results in tournaments outside of Paris.


madmax Says:

fedend is in love!


Fedend Says:

Feder should not waste his energy playing masters and slams.
He should solely concentrate on ATP-250 tourneys played in substandard conditions without any top 20 players.
That will give him chances to win something and gain points.


i am it Says:

Numbers tell something, if not everything.
2nd Serve Points Won in the 3rd set
Fed———8/15 (53%)
Monfils —-19/26 (73%).

I think this explains how Fed missed those 5 BPs/ MPs. In the last set, his break conversion is 1/6 (17%), 5 of those on 2nd serve.
Yet, Fed wins more points (41-40) in the 3rd and leads the Total Points Won in the match, 125-121.


i am it Says:

Modify:
his explains how Fed missed those 5 BPs/ MPs = or how Monfils saved those on his 2nd serve.


dimwitted recluse Says:

Twocents – did you notice the crowd actually booed Federer when he got those two lucky netcords(and it was the third altogether)? You can’t blame them. You’ve got to vent your ire on someone! It’s like when Federer had words with the umpire – actually, I suspect he was just pissed off at Monfils making a monkey of him in those net exchanges. But he couldn’t go up to Monfils, could he, and tell him off for winning the points, so the poor umpire, as ever, serves as the anger absorber.
I thought Fed looked pretty embarrassed with those net cords, who wouldn’t. But he didn’t allow it to affect his concentration. He is a mighty fighter, and I agree with you, he did well to get those match points against the run of play. Just think, he could have beaten Djokovic at the US Open, which would have been a travesty. And yet a tribute to his great fighting qualities. This man is a warrior. Yes, I guess if you’re around long enough, you’ll suffer the good, the bad and the ugly from the ministrations of Lady Luck.


Nina Says:

Great first set by Monfils, I take off my hat to him. He really unnerved Federer and put him out of pace. And Roger, well, he’s FEDerror today, showing how much vulnerable he is in some situations.


madmax Says:

Fedend Says:
Feder should not waste his energy playing masters and slams.
He should solely concentrate on ATP-250 tourneys played in substandard conditions without any top 20 players.
That will give him chances to win something and gain points.

November 13th, 2010 at 2:54 pm

fedend, you’re right. May be you can have a word with rafa and tell him not to withdraw from so many tournaments when clearly fans like you miss him so much – that you have to vent your frustration.

Hopefully he’ll overcome the 11 straight losses he had last year and there won’t be any retirements either. I mean, really. It’s not brilliant that he should be doing this as world no. 1.

Go Roger!


dimwitted recluse Says:

Ben

Of course Monfils is nowhere near being what Roddick calls a “repeater”. But beating Federer fair and square, coming from behind in the third, might make all the difference to his future prospects. Just hope he’s got enough gas to handle Soderling tomorrow.


contador Says:

dimwitted recluse-

when federer won the 2nd set tie break i felt myself going into fed loving mode but looked at monfils, the fans, grasped the picture that monfils was on the verge of possibly a breakthrough and what a triumph it would be for him and was back on the monfils bandwagon.

monfils has given me so many laughs but also been frustrated by him. now at last after ousting murray and federer, managing to win on his home court and not choke, i’m really a monfils fan.

also a fan of the icy swede. he was rock solid today in the face of adversity. yes llodra appeard exhausted from his efforts. yet it had to be difficult for soda to save matchpoints as he did with the crowd going nuts. he silenced them.

i’m going to really enjoy the final. i dunno how mr dimples can pull off another upset – especially a french favorite like monfils. it will be fun to see. hoping for 3 more exciting sets!

most here i think consider soderling boring but to me that ice in his veins is really what is impressive about him- of course the serve and forehand when working.


Eric Says:

Contador, I’m not sure how the no. 4 seed beating the no. 12 seed would be an ‘upset’ especially when he has a 2-0 record against him. I hope there is an upset, which would be Monfils winning… :)


madmax Says:

guys,

I have some breaking news – I just thought I’d let you know (before anyone else posts here), that federer is in decline.


Eric Says:

also, the matches today really reminded why I hate deciding set tiebreakers. I don’t care if it means the players drop dead after the match from playing 30 games in the last set, no match should ever be decided by a tiebreaker. It’s just a horrible institution. Earlier sets, yeah, fine, you can’t have 10 hour matches, but not deciders…


Twocents Says:

dimwitted recluse,

I was booing Fed on those two netcords too :-)). Yeah, that’s why I don’t think Fed really deserved all those mp’s in that game. You don’t beat underdog and home favourite that way.

The crowd was fine: they were cheering Fed’s mini break in 2nd TB cuz they wanted a 3rd set.

Agree with you on USO09: Fed should have lost in 3. The dog fighter in the ballet dancer sometimes made it painful and ugly :-)). But I like dogs.


contador Says:

given the circumstances in paris and the fact that soderling has been in a slump until recently, i’ll be surprised. i think i’ll be surprised more by a soderling win than a monfils win at this point.

soderling’s first match in paris he had a trainer come over and was coughing blowing his schnoz into the towel he puts over his head and pointing to his chest. the trainer or whoever it was checked his pulse…i could hear a little of the exchange and soderling was indicating he couldn’t breathe.

he went on to win. and i have not seen any evidence of the cold or whatever it was since. he’s gotten better. monfils also started out the tourny complaining. not sure which one will be the fittest tomorrow though…..monfils has been diving and rolling on the hc all week…he could start to feel some pain. but i’ll bet on monfils adrenaline, i think.

will be fun, i think.


madmax Says:

if anyone can get hold of the fed interview, post it here please tonight – if you can. thanks. Am sure he will mention fatigue somewhere along the line. I think if Fed wanted anyone to win, somehow it would be monfils – and let’s face it, sod beat him for the first time, now it’s monfil’s turn.

Fed is the one person who will learn from the experience.

Love the fed.


Nina Says:

Federer was godawful but Monfils couldn’t capitalize on that. Shame.


Vulcan Says:

dimwitted recluse Says:

I thought Fed looked pretty embarrassed with those net cords, who wouldn’t.

He did but I did catch an ever so slight snicker on his face after the third one landed and he was clearly fighting himself to keep it back…now if it was Soderling there would likely have been no such inner struggle to have empathy for your opponents feelings since he has described such niceties as “BS”.


Nina Says:

Oops I’ve just realized I’m commenting on a match you guys have already seen. For some unknown reason Spanish Tv is showing this match two hours late. So excuse me.
Monfils won? wow, I’m speechless. Good for him!


madmax Says:

gannu, if you come on later, I’ve found this bit from monfils’ interview and a little about what roge said about how he feels – same to you kimmi and other fed fans.

“I’m happy I won against Rog.

He’s someone I admire a lot.

He’s a legend of tennis,

‘the’ legend, and beating him is a beautiful victory. I will remember that for my whole life,” declared Monfils. “And also it happened in very special conditions for me, in Paris, so it’s only happiness.

“I was thinking it was a very good experience. This is why you practice all the time. It’s to experience those special moments. The crowd was great. They were behind me. Well, you need to dare try something, and I was lucky because I was successful. On those match points I was trying to control myself, otherwise it would have been too difficult.”

It is the fourth time this year that Federer has lost a match having held match points. Against Marcos Baghdatis in the Indian Wells third round Federer squandered three match points, and two weeks later he missed a match point chance in a fourth-round defeat to Tomas Berdych. In the US Open semi-finals, the Swiss was denied on two match points in a five-set defeat to Novak Djokovic.

Despite the defeat, Federer maintained he was in good form heading into the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals in a week’s time. “I feel good. I’m playing well. It was not a bad match today. I’m happy with my performance. Clearly with a victory today I would have had big chances of winning this tournament tomorrow. This is not the case, so now I have to look at the future. I’m going to prepare for London.

“I feel good physically. In a way it is a relief that I was able to finish the tournament in good physical health. I’m fresh mentally, too. This is the most important thing. I’m going to back to Switzerland quickly and I’m going to prepare for London, because London is the great final of the year. I think I have good chances maybe in London for winning.”

well done Fed. Get some rest and see you at the O2!


jane Says:

Nina, lol above! :) Nothing like feeling out of the loop. Hope you enjoy the rest of the match; it was exciting until the very end.


jane Says:

Post-match comments by Monfils (source: ATP website)

“I’m happy I won against Rog. He’s someone I admire a lot. He’s a legend of tennis, ‘the’ legend, and beating him is a beautiful victory. I will remember that for my whole life,” declared Monfils. “And also it happened in very special conditions for me, in Paris, so it’s only happiness.

“I was thinking it was a very good experience. This is why you practice all the time. It’s to experience those special moments. The crowd was great. They were behind me. Well, you need to dare try something, and I was lucky because I was successful. On those match points I was trying to control myself, otherwise it would have been too difficult.”

“The toughest thing for tomorrow is that I want that victory. I know it’s not going to be easy, because Robin really killed me last week. I think I’m going to step into the court and put pressure on him as much as I can. I’m at home. I want that victory. It’s going to be interesting, let’s say.”

Post-match comments from Fed (same source as above):

“I feel good. I’m playing well. It was not a bad match today. I’m happy with my performance. Clearly with a victory today I would have had big chances of winning this tournament tomorrow. This is not the case, so now I have to look at the future. I’m going to prepare for London.

“I feel good physically. In a way it is a relief that I was able to finish the tournament in good physical health. I’m fresh mentally, too. This is the most important thing. I’m going to back to Switzerland quickly and I’m going to prepare for London, because London is the great final of the year. I think I have good chances maybe in London for winning.”


Nina Says:

Federer said that he played a good match? This is some of the worst I’ve seen from him…


skeezerweezer Says:

La Monf!!!!! Wow, peaked at the score in between sets of my own tennis and found Fed up 4-1 in the third. Only to finish and find he lost. Oh well Monfils totally deserves it I’m sure from all the posts I read. Nice to see the Frenchman succeed in front of the hometown crowd. From the score it looked like a great match. Go Fed in London!


madmax Says:

Nina Says:
Federer said that he played a good match? This is some of the worst I’ve seen from him…

November 13th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

Nina,

what match were you watching?

Did you check out the scoreline 7:6, 6:7; 7:6. You CANNOT get closer than that!

Fed was not as consistent in the match against monfils as he has been these last 6 weeks, but give the guy a break already!

Monfils deserved to win today. Fed has played some amazing tennis, it had to come to an end at some stage. No problem!

Monfils had his moments where he didn’t play great either, he just was able to pull it off with the best match he has ever played in his life, I reckon.

Go fed in London skeeze, indeed!

Jane, we posted the same post!


Skorocel Says:

Twocents: You can’t be serious with that penultimate paragraph of your November 13th, 2010 at 2:49 pm post! LOL :-) It’s exactly THESE kind of matches that are missing in Federer’s career – and it’s not because of Fed being “competitive” that he had lost them – it’s because of Fed being (usually, but not always) a CHOKER.

Now I’m not saying he can’t win a tough match – it’s just that there aren’t that many of them in his career to be worth of remembering. I just can’t understand people (like you?) who say all this BS that the Wimby 2008 final was, in a way, Federer’s greatest win – even though he lost the match. The truth is, if we don’t count that 2nd set (where Fed led I think 4-1 but still lost it), he really didn’t choke in that one (as he was constantly behind), and really can’t be blamed for anything, but still, what I think of that match is that he had an excellent opportunity to show everyone that he can take off the gloves and win ugly (so to speak) – and there really wasn’t any better scenario to do it than in a Wimby final & against his biggest rival, was it? 2 sets to love down, 2 MPs down, and then win it say 10-8 in the 5th – now that would’ve been SOMETHING! But it wasn’t to be…

Like it or not, but what Roger showed today was choking at its absolute purest… It was a high quality match and certainly one of the best matches played in a best of 3 sets format in 2010 – that’s true. But to blow 5 MPs and a 3-0 lead in the 3rd? Lucky netcords or not, that really takes some doing, Roger…

So this is the best player of all times, right? A guy who IN THIS YEAR ALONE has already lost 4 (four) matches after blowing a matchpoint (?)… LOL :-) Can you imagine that with Nadal? If I’m not wrong, since he’s been the Nadal we know (that’s from 2005 onwards), the guy has lost as many as 1 (one) match after blowing a MP (Doha 2010 final vs Davy) – and that’s about it. Federer? AO 2005 semi vs Safin, Rome 2006 final vs Nadal, 2010 vs Berdych, Baggy, Djoker, and now Monfils – just to name a few…

Now, when has Federer last won a match after SAVING a MP? Answer: Olivier Rochus in Halle 2006. That’s already some 4 and 1/2 years… Nadal? Troicki in Tokio just 3 weeks ago, Benneteau in Cincy 3 months ago, Djokovic in Madrid, Almagro in Paris and Nalby at IW last year, Federer in Rome 2006, etc. etc.

I just can’t believe this… Fed lead 3-0 in the 3rd and Monfils was absolutely RIPE FOR A TOWEL… But what would Roger do? Instead of breaking Monfils again (which was really the one and only logical thing to happen at that time) and winning the set easily, he lets Monfils (whose single most potent weapon in this match – i.e. his 1st serve, went totally off at that particular time) to win 2 games on his serve courtesy of some stupid & sloppy baseline errors, and then later, thanks to his “super competitiveness”, literally pushes his .ss to 5 MPs, out of which no less than 4 were more than playable, but out of which Fed managed to convert zero… That’s the best player of all times? LOL :-) NEVER EVER would’ve such thing happened to Nadal or Sampras, NEVER EVER! Maybe once, but certainly not 4 times in a single year!

The truth is, Roger may have the most beautiful game to watch, most Slams, weeks and everything, but unfortunately, tennis (and all sports & life in general) isn’t always about beauty…


Eric Says:

Skorocel, Federer doesn’t have anything left to prove. He’s already shown that he’s the best player, maybe not of all time, but certainly in the modern era. (Comparing 2010 tennis with 1970 or before is idiotic, they’re practically different sports.) 2010 has been by far his worst year since 2002 or 2003, and yet he won a slam and a few other titles and reached a few other finals, and is finishing the world no. 2. So stuff it.

Monfils played like a man on a mission and it still came down to a couple of points (never mind the first set where Federer was playing terribly, and still lost only 9-7 in the tiebreaker).

It’s true that Federer is turning into a bit of a choker, but every other player has messed up too. (By the way, you can’t judge an entire career on only one match, or even one year of matches – so stop doing it to Federer. Otherwise, if you want to see your beloved Nadal and Sampras not looking so good, how about taking a glimpse back into your memory and remembering any of the thrashings Federer gave Nadal in 2006 or 2007, or Marat making Sampras look like a little girl in the 2000 USO final)


skeezerweezer Says:

Skorocel,

Good to see you back :)

“…. it’s because of Fed being (usually, but not always) a CHOKER.”

Careful here, I read the post and I know what your getting at, as being a Fed fan I saw those matches and was pissed he did not come through. But you have to look at the totality of the mans career. He got 16 slams, with other ridiculous records. So, is he a choker? If he is, I want to be one.

Let’s put it this way, if he didn’t choke away all those matches ( as you say ), shouldn’t he have like 20+ slams by now?

just sayin,,,,


skeezerweezer Says:

Max, Jane thx for the post interviews :)


skeezerweezer Says:

Nina,

LMAO on your 3:47 pm post. No worries, at least you were watchin tennis!


Nina Says:

@madmax… We all watch the same match but we all draw different conclusions. In my opinion all Roger did today was delivering a lot of aces and not much more. In the important points he played badly and he shanked a lot of easy forehands. He got too tight and too nervous. He lost a lot of the rallies from the baseline (something that is very worrying about him lately, he’s not as strong from the baseline as he used to be. It was apparent in his matches against Novak, but losing rallies to Monfils? c’mon). He missed 5 match points and not because Monfils was stronger on the other side. In my opinion that’s a bad match from him. Of course with Federer we’re always more demanding.


Eric Says:

Nina, it’s true that Federer probably would have lost the first set a lot more quickly if he hadn’t been serving so well, but he played fine in the second and third sets. And I don’t quite understand your disdain for Monfils; he is the sort of player who plays like a top-four guy half the time, and like the world no. 20 or 40 the other half the time. This week it was top-4 Monfils.


madmax Says:

Skorocel,

Federer has lost matches, this is true, on match point but I think when you also count the times that he has retired from a match and rafa has retired from a match I think you know where I am coming from. So if you want to talk like that, there will always be comparisons to draw.

And when was the last time monfils reached a final, or even played a SF like this today? Well, that’s easy. Never. Never has monfils played a tennis match like he did today.

On the other hand, roger has played a shed load of tennis these last 6 weeks – monfils has not even been up to par –

I admit that the 5 MP today, was shocking. But I am reflecting now and it doesn’t hurt so much.

I hope that Annacone will be able to put this part of his game right. For me, I think it has a lot to do with build up of glycogen and the amount of tennis he has played.

Federer is one of the most mentally tough players on tour. To call federer a choker shows your disrespect for the greatest player to ever play the game.

‘The Swiss then opened up a 4-1 lead in the third set and looked to be on course for a place in the final, but Monfils battled his way back into the contest before saving four match points in game 12 to set up another tie-break.’

May be someone who is good at stats can comment on why this could have happened.

When you look at the end of the match stats, with fed having more winners, it just doesn’t seem to make sense.

What was he thinking at that moment?

It had remnants of Tsonga when fed lost to him last year, when he was 5:1 up – I never thought I’d see that again.

But, he’ll get over it, as will we.


contador Says:

roger federer the “usually but not always” choker?
lolzzz….. how in the world did roger ever manage to choke his way to #1 …poor federer.

actually that idea would make more sense if broken down into parts of his career. perhaps we are in the “usually but not always chokes era?” i see it, we could be but…

as nina says: “We all watch the same match and draw different conclusions.”

i watched soda save 3 match points. llodra did not choke.

i watched monfils win today not federer choking. fed was due for a bad day, imo. he’d been playing well…3 weeks straight. they were smaller tournaments but beating djokovic in basel – federer did not choke. and i was worried he would in that final.

though i watch poor ernests gulbis choking nearly every time i see him play and he is to me, affectionately, “sir gags a lot.” other times i chalk it up to disinterest or not fit/ prepared. but he definitely chokes. the match he won against federer in rome, they both were choking to see who’d lose the match. it really was an impressive chokefest.

i hope ernests gets over the choke habit in 2011.

troiki had a massive gag when he played nadal. poor troiki.

but today i did not see any of the four choking. distraction, irritation, frustration, exhaustion…not choking from the losers but real winning from the winners.

and many times ranking just does not carry enough weight. watching how they played and who they played all week is important and it really matters which player wakes up the fittest and has a better day. this is a huge final for both soderling and monfils.

i give monfils the edge even with his lower rank. and his performance over the past 2 weeks makes me think we have not seen the best from gael monfils yet. all performances were in france, but still beating andy murray and roger federer is something.

i’m cheering for “underdog” soda. somebody needs to cheer for him. he’ll need that cold heartless demeanor too. spoil the party, if you dare, robin.

happy birthaday Kimberly, wherever you are! you can’t get away without everyone knowing ; )


darii Says:

It’s nice to hear fed stay positive after a loss like that. It is quite strange with more points won and more winners he should lose, but its always a matter of WHEN you get those points!
Good luck to LaMonf tomorrow, I know what it would mean to him and roger (rasheed!). For that matter soda and magnus! We will have a new masters champ tomorrow and suppose that is plenty to be happy about!

Let’s go, Roger in London!


dimwitted recluse Says:

contador – “most here i think consider soderling boring but to me that ice in his veins is really what is impressive about him- of course the serve and forehand when working.”
I’m with you. There was something about Soderling I appreciated but couldn’t put my finger on it, but you’ve done it for me with your allusion to “ice in his veins” – particularly impressive, of course, given the way he used to beat up on himself. It’s always interesting to see how some players can move out of their black holes, whilst some are eternally stuck. Some almost get out – Verdasco, for instance, he’s hovering back and forth. but also Sod’s game, even if it can be somewhat elephantine, at its best it has a kind of austere beauty – to my eyes, anyway, and I guess to yours.
For all that, I’ll be rooting for Monfils tomorrow. In a strange way, I suspect his inconsistency,which is glaring can be accounted for by a certain lack of self-belief. Winning in Paris tomorrow, on top of having beaten the great Federer, might go some way to undoing that.

” coughing blowing his schnoz into the towel he puts over his head ” [Sod]. Really, contador, you seem determined to provide us with these revolting details. Does he then get the stuff all over his hair, or what there is of it? And then, after scratching his head and involuntarily moving his fingers to his eyes….

Vulcan – yes, I know what you mean, I did think I caught a glimmer of a smile hastily suppressed, perhaps it was after the first net chord, there were 3, weren’t there. His embarrassment, b.t.w., I suspect was largely due to his knowledge that this wasn’t going to make him exactly popular with the crowd. I am sure deep down, like all players, he is happy to accept any piece of luck coming his way.
Skyrocel – thought provoking post. “Now I’m not saying he can’t win a tough match – it’s just that there aren’t that many of them in his career to be worth of remembering”. Oh, Iwouldn’t say that.Many, many of Federer’s matches, going right back through the years, have been very close indeed. It’s just that one tends to remember the matches when Fed’s tennis ascends into the surreal. Because it really did, sometimes – but not that often. Generally, Federer had to get his hands dirty, and again and again he did. I think he’s a fighter, a warrior. As for choking, every tennis player, including Nadal, chokes from time to time, and I believe this tends to occur more often as the player gets older – this seems to be the case in most sports. Strange, you’d think age would impart a certain “wisdom”, and perhaps it does in some respects. But fearlesness is an attribute of the young. They haven’t been badly stung yet.
You are right to point to Fed’s serve – when he was broken back in the 3rd set, he couldn’t find a first serve for love or money. And Monfils punished him. But think how often Federer saves the situation precisely through clutch serving. Just can’t be done every time. Also, when Monfils returned the favour, so to speak, and couldn’t find a first serve himself, was it Federer choking that he couldn’t take advantage? Maybe a bit. But certainly on quite a number of points he was simply outplayed by a man inspired.


contador Says:

sorry, dimwitted recluse. after i hit “submit” i regretted the observation going to you. soda pop usually doesn’t do “that” but was making the point he apparently went into his first match not unwell.

no further elaborations of my thoughts. the end. your welcome, lol…


contador Says:

meant he unwell, not “not unwell.”

very excited about paris final!


dimwitted recluse Says:

“the match he [Gulbis]won against federer in rome, they both were choking to see who’d lose the match. it really was an impressive chokefest.” Yes, I remember that, it was really quite something. Grinning like a happy hyena afterwards in the studio, Gulbis commented, in a studious sort of way – insofar as his twitching mouth would allow – that he had experienced some very interesting feelings which were quite new to him. Apparently these involved feeling like a piece of jelly which – for such is the way of jelly – made standing on two feet, never mind wielding a tennis racket, a distinct problem. Peter Fleming, a sceptical old bird, questioned whether these feelings were really so novel to Gulbis. After all, it was rather implied that Gulbis wasn’t accustomed to the sensation of choking….

There is a tendency to think choking is confined to sport, but I don’t agree. I have certainly had the experience of choking when, for instance, trying to explain something simple and basic to a pupil, the old noggin suddenly becomes completely blank. Pretty scary situation, I can tell you, and requiring a cool head and some nimble footwork to retrieve the situation. In a story of P.G.Wodehouse, there’s this colonel type trying to work up the courage to propose to his fiance. He indulges in a good bit of spluttering, shifting uneasily from one leg to another, turns violent purple and eventually manages a strangled:”Eh, what?”
I think one could reasonably call that choking.


Twocents Says:

Skorocel,

Unfortunately, I am serious: Fed is not a choker. He fought and still fights as hard as I’ve seen anyone on court, despite that he makes it look easy. He just cannot win them all. Also, I’m sure all your warriors will have their payback days, as sure as the sun will set down in the late afternoon :-)).

Agree to disagree. Great day of tennis.


dimwitted recluse Says:

please don’t apologise, contador! I’m actually rather impressed by your attention to detail… It’s a strange thing, you corrected your “not unwell” to “unwell” – and yet it is the latter I read! So in other words, my mind took in the obviously correct reading, so my eyes ignored, or just didn’t see, the word “not”. I presume this sort of thing is quite common, but even so, I think it’s rather fascinating.
Yes, hope it’s a great final and not a damp squib. You never know with these things. Goodnight.


jane Says:

Ha Ha – d.r. – have totally had that choking moment with a student. i get it!

Also, to join you and conty, I like Soda. Don’t dislike him. Something about the “new Soda” – version 2009-now – has grown on me. The way he’s focused, the way he’s gracious in defeat, to Nadal both times, at the FO and Wimby, I thought he was very pleasant. And he fights more. His smile, which we see more now too, is endearing. He has a kind of serious look, but then he smiles and those big dimple, well, he looks like a child!

That said, with d.r. I am cheering for a Monfils win. He came so close to winning this last year after Nole, that time too fighting back from 3rd set deficits to force a deciding set tiebreak. I’d like to see him win a big title, and do so at home. If Soda wins I won’t be disappointed; I’ll be happy for him. Although I have to admit, I do want Murray and Nole to stay 3 & 4 (or move up ideally), so that they are seeded accordingly at the first slam next year. So that’s added motivation for me to cheer on Monfils. The race between 3, 4 and 5 is really heating up, though, and it’s kind of exciting; likely these will be decided at WTF! Bring on London!! (After an exciting final tomorrow, of course :))


jane Says:

conty’s not “not unwell” = Orwellian doublespeak! Or double (triple?) negation. Like, “he’s not unhandsome.” Er, is that a backhanded compliment? (scratches head). : )


contador Says:

okay, now i think i’m done laughing, dimwitted recluse…whew

i’m glad ya’ll get a laugh from my bad grammar too…lol.

about gulbis:

not sure peter fleming isn’t right. he very well could be a bigger gulbis fan than i am, or has had more access to watching, surely. i started following gulbis in 2008 but in 2007 ernie had some good matches i missed. in 2008 for example, i didn’t consider him a choker at all. for most of 2009 i didn’t think of him as a choker. he was out of shape and clueless without a coach-didn’t show up for practice he admits, went into matches with no plan. happy, smiley, it was all good.

highlight in 2009 stockhom night in jail and so on….

but he definitely has been guilty of choking since returning from injury post FO this season. maybe his losses are fitness issues too. he was terrible in the heat. but this fall he’s gagging a lot. maybe that sensation stays with him after the federer match and the idea crosses his mind in a tie break for instance with roddick and in a match he really wants to win on a big stage. other times i think he is playing someone lower ranked and doesn’t give a rip to try too hard.

no, i don’t think choking is confined to sport either. as for my own choking, i’d have it bad when i used to have to play piano recitals. my last recital i had a piece memorized and suddenly i was aware of too many eyes on me. then my mind went blank, my fingers wouldn’t work, i felt faint, dizzy – had to improvise a bad ending, take a bow and get out fast. now i just say no to playing for anyone! and very hard on myself about it.

when it comes to athletics, i am not great but i never have felt i choke, even when i lose. and i don’t care who is watching. i think it has maybe to do with my passion for sport over-riding the fear of performing. and perhaps i’m too relaxed and having too much fun; not competitive enough. but i don’t compete for a living – big difference.

so i have no idea how it is for the likes of federer. but i’ve felt i relate to the choking feeling watching gulbis. and troiki when he played nadal. they have a look and a body language i recognize too.

cilc is another one definitely having trouble compared to last season.

monfils is appearing like a success story. let’s hope.


i am it Says:

Kimberly,
I second Conty on this: “I’m cheering for ‘underdog’ Soda. Somebody needs to cheer for him. He’ll need that cold heartless demeanor too. spoil the party, if you dare, robin [plus, I want to see Soda ousting Murray, sorry Margot, what goes around comes around].

Happy birth day Kimberly, wherever you are! you can’t get away without everyone knowing ; )”

Guys,
For a long time the veteran poster Skor was a Fed fan, and I think he still is. Listen to him. I agree “choking” could also mean your heart is pounding a little faster and your blood veins are irritated, regardless if they’re hidden or disguised poorly from public eyes, enough to impact adversely on the coordination between your bodily engines and racket, the organically adapted extended hand.
So simplistically, in the sense described above, “choking” may arguably bear “emotive” content. To put in more subtle terms, it illustrates impressionism in a compact way. Nothing wrong with that, if you are willing to broaden your horizon a little bit.
Be that as it may. That Fed choked or did not choke is a matter of choice of words, imo, a sort of smooth compromise between your word bank, vision, expectation, craft, revision, etc. and what actually happened out there on the court. In this sense, “choking” may also incorporate the viewer’s own state of mind, a little bit, in her/his response. And of course the ensuing argument has its own beauty, most of the time.

Tomorrow?
Did I mention I will be cheering for Soda tomorrow, though would be happier for Monfils if he wins? Somehow I’ve a feeling the final won’t match either of the semis. Hope that’s not the case.


Marc Says:

Another player so far constantly beaten by Federer, who got his first win this year.

Stand up and be counted: Davydenko, Baghdatis, Berdych, Montanes, Soderling, Monfils.

Congratulations. You have always been good enough to do it, but never before brave enough. You stopped beating yourselves and won instead. Well done.


jane Says:

What I am wondering is this – what will Sean predict (or not predict) for “his man”? : )


Kimberly Says:

Ha ha back from my birthday dinner!!!!!

I will be rooting for La Monf. I guess deep down I cannot forgive Soderling for Roland garros 2009. And vie always liked monfils. Very impressive to beat two top five opponents back to back. Can he make it three? Odds say no but If you had asked me pre tourney if I though he could beat Murray, soda or fed, fed would have been last on the list. As I picked him in the draw challenge to beat Murray obviously I thought it was conceivable. But to be honest, I decided to take Murray out to the first non slumping opponent he played which coincidentally was monfils. So it was actually more a pick against Murray than for monfils. But as to soda, why not?


jane Says:

Hope you had fun Kimberly. That win over Rafa would’ve been tough to watch being a Rafa fan; on the other hand, it brought about a maturing of Soda. And Nadal got right back on course – BIG TIME – this year. So, yeah. Still, go Gael force!


Kimberly Says:

Jane, had fun but starving. High priced south beach restaurants have an aversion to actually serving food.

What time is the final. I will have five kids at my house so not sure now much ill be able to see. Or quite the opposite. Maybe I’ll run in my room and hide.


jane Says:

Kimberly, just checked; the final is at 3:00 pm Paris time. Good luck, with all those kids!!


madmax Says:

Fed isn’t a choker.

I think, along with age does come wisdom, but also fear – it’s part of life’s rich tapestry. Am certain that this part of fed’s game will be ‘fixed’, or ‘glued strongly enough ‘ in order for him to move and achieve greater success.

It doesn’t help though, when one day later, the vultures are swirling in the media with titles like Roger – ‘Over and Out’. They really don’t know how to give it a rest. I have picked a couple of positives though (if you want to see it that way), the rest was pretty negative.

“some of the biggest names in tennis – in Australia to play in the Champions Downunder tournament in Sydney – believe Federer still has a couple of grand slam titles in him.

”He’s not dominating the way he did,” says former Swedish professional Thomas Enqvist. ”But he’s still playing well enough to win more slams. He’s enjoying himself out on the court, and when he’s doing that, he can probably win a couple more if he’s healthy.

”He is moving better and looks like he’s not having any problems with his back or whatever was bothering him. He has a chance to take [the No.1 ranking] back. I would say that one favourite [in Melbourne] would be Nadal.”

Rafter also reckons Federer can add to his record tally of 16 slams. But as Wilander notes, the man tagged as the greatest ever will again become the hunter rather than the hunted.

”It will be interesting to see him competing at the grand slams if he’s not competing for the title,” Wilander says. ”If he will still feel inside that he is – it only takes a few losses and you’re not – but I don’t think he’s there yet. He can still win a major.

”The problem is not beating Nadal, it’s that the early rounds are getting harder and harder for everyone. That’s got nothing to do with Federer’s level – that’s the level of the game. By the time he gets to play Murray, Djokovic or Nadal, he might be more physically tired. It gets harder and harder.”

For today, I’m not sure who I want to win. I think Monfils because he is in Paris, but I really wouldn’t mind if soderling won either on the basis that Magnuss has worked so hard to overcome robin’s negative mindset.

Then, I think soderling will have more belief in himself. He knows he can beat the top 4 because he has done that already.

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