Federer Rolls Into Indian Wells Quarters, Raonic Rallies Past Murray; Halep Reaches Semis
by Staff | March 13th, 2014, 12:28 am
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Roger Federer continued his excellent start of 2014 by steamrolling past his good friend and fellow veteran Tommy Haas 6-4, 6-4 tonight in the Indian Wells fourth round.

The win improves Federer to 13-3 lifetime against the 35-year-old Haas and lifts his 2014 record to 17-2. The four time Indian Wells champ has now won his last nine matches.

Next for Federer is a meeting with Kevin Anderson who is also in the midst of a find season. The lanky South African put an end to Stanislas Wawrinka’s perfect season sending the Australian Open champion out of the singles draw in three sets 7-6, 4-6, 6-1.

“It wasn’t really on my mind that he had won Australia,” said Anderson of the streak. “Just focused on what I was doing… I knew it was a tough match today, and it feels great to beat somebody who obviously has just won a Grand Slam.”

Struggling with some minor tightness in his back, Wawrinka rallied from a break down in the second but couldn’t hold off Anderson’s might game.

“For sure he’s playing good,” said Wawrinka. “He’s a tough player to play on fast condition. He’s serving big and always put a lot of pressure.

“But I’m more disappointed with myself. I felt I was tired mentally, but that’s not the problem. I should just accept that and be positive. I think I was negative on all the match. I was complaining a lot about my serve, about the way I was playing, and with that, I don’t deserve to win matches. I think I should have been more positive with myself, just trying to find solution, because it was still a close match.”

Wawrinka wasn’t the only Grand Slam winner to fall. Reigning Wimbledon champion Andy Murray’s issues continued in a 4-6, 7-5, 6-3 loss to Milos Raonic.

After patchy play in his first two matches, Murray came out much better initially against the Canadian. But leading with a break 2-1 in the third, Murray crumbled inexplicably losing four straight games and eventually the match.

“To get broken two consecutive times in that situation isn’t good enough,” said Murray. “I played poor tennis at that stage. I didn’t make enough balls [and] missed easy shots… So over the course of the set, if you give up enough unforced errors on basic shots, then with the amount of free points he gets on his serve, that’s going to add up to a negative result.

“Today, I was just really disappointed with how the last 15 minutes of the match went. That was really, really poor. Acapulco was the same. My matches have been a little bit patchy over the past few weeks.”

Raonic, who now has won three of four against Murray, is playing in just his second event of the season due to a left ankle injury. The 23-year-old now moves on to a quarterfinal tomorrow against Alexandr Dolgopolov. The Ukraine backed up his big win over Rafael Nadal by foiling Fabio Fognini 6-2, 6-4.

One quarter on Friday is set with John Isner against Ernests Gulbis. Isner, one of three big men already into the last eight (Marin Cilic to play still), edged Fernando Verdasco in three sets.

Ernests Gulbis remained on the hot side getting past Roberto Bautista Agut also in three sets 7-6, 4-6, 6-2.

Juliean Benneteau, a winner over Feliciano Lopez, will draw the Novak Djokovic-Marin Cilic victor in the other Friday quarter.

In the women’s draw, Simona Halep was the first player to clinch a semifinal berth after a brisk 6-2, 6-2 win over Casey Dellacqua.

“Winning the tournament is too far,” she said. “I have my chance and I’m trying to get it, but the next round will be very tough, so I just have to keep trying my best.”

Halep will await the Agnieszka Radwanska-Jelena Jankovic winner in the semifinals on Friday.

In the quarters tomorrow, Li Na meets Dominika Cibulkova in a rematch of their Australian Open final. And then Flavia Pennetta takes on Sloane Stephens.

For the men, Federer, who will still play doubles later Wednesday, faces Anderson under the lights. In the daytime Raonic duels Dolgoplov.


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74 Comments for Federer Rolls Into Indian Wells Quarters, Raonic Rallies Past Murray; Halep Reaches Semis

http://tiahpost.com/blog/ Says:

Well played, Maestro, and continued good-luck to you. Glad you are back in good and positive spirits. You don’t have to win everything – you can only do your best which is what you are doing!! Again, all the best.


Michael Says:

It is always a delight to watch Roger and Haas play against one another. More often than not, Roger gets the better of Haas, but yet he is made to struggle in most of his matches and that only exemplifies the sheer quality of Haas as a player. What I admire about this veteran Haas is the ease with which he plays his Tennis, that care free feeling on Court with his stylish backhand executed with exemplary perfection. He is already 36 and with most of his career bogged down by injuries which prevented him from realizing his potential, it is yet refreshing to watch this man make repeated attempts to stay afloat competition. That tells something about his perseverance. Even this year, a niggling back injury is preventing him from giving 100% on court and yet he is not prepared to give up another try at Indian Wells, a tournament he has won before during those glory days when he was ranked No.2.


Michael Says:

Well, Andy is in some serious problem if he doesn’t discover his groove quickly. That sting in his game is gone and he is now struggling. Oflate he is finding it difficult to get to the late stages of tournament and that is certainly not a healthy sign. Alas, this edition of Indian Wells has turned out to be a tournament of upsets. Another shocker was the defeat of Wawarinka against Anderson. It is just not the defeat, but the total rout in the third set which should give Wawarinka some goose bumbs. I had thought that Wawarinka was the pick of this tournament considering the way he was dominating his opponents and how quickly things change. It seems it would be much better not to make predictions. It is uncertainity which ignites our interest in any sport and Tennis today is experiencing a phase where tournaments have become unpredictable with nothing much to seperate the top from the rest. If there is a dark horse in this tournament, it should be Gulbis.


pogi Says:

nice game maestro!!! seems like your incoming baby brings good luck to you! but of course plus your unmatched mastery of the game!! Allez!


pigoonse Says:

Time to get my head examined.


Perfect fan Says:

WOW!! roger made my day and all his fans by winning both Singles and Doubles. I was seriously doubting fed/wawa will back out from the doubles but good to see them compete and eliminate the dangerous pairing of paes/step. Good signs for upcoming DC tie.

I think nole too is slowly oiling up his rusty engines and will be at his best in the finals. I think he’s the favourite even though fed is playing good….mostly bcoz of the slow courts.

PS: ISNER v GULBIS could be an enticing match.


metan Says:

Michael, I don’t know about Haas game so much, since I am hardly watching him, I planned to watch him again Kei but I was so upset with Rafa lost which made me no interest to watch Kei. Today game showed that he has his own class. Pleased to see.

My dark horse is Millos Raonic. What do you think about him?


Nat Says:

I was so glad Nole snapped out of whatever it was that made him play so terribly in that first set. As much as I enjoy upsets and underdogs prevailing; I definitely prefer for Fed/Nole/Rafa to win. Stan’s loss was also disheartening but at least Fedrinka got through in doubles!

And speaking of Federer- it’s been wonderful to see him back in form this year. His level of talent is remarkable and it’s so rare that someone possesses that much natural ability towards something. The day he retires is going to be extremely bleak for the sport.


Klaas Says:

Seems to be very fast tournament thks to balls and desert air. This is what you can expect if you fancy real fast surfaces: the big servers dominate.


steve-o Says:

It’s not just natural ability Federer has, but incredible dedication and focus.

Keep in mind he’s a husband and father to two kids (soon to be three or four) and as he gets older, he has to dedicate more time to practice, to maintaining his fitness, etc. Changing rackets so late in his career is also quite difficult.

Sampras said he couldn’t imagine how Federer stays so motivated. At Federer’s age, Sampras had retired. The grind of the tour was too much for him. Federer, who has many more off-court commitments (administration, mentoring young players, promotion and advertising) than Sampras who monomaniacally focused on his game and tried to minimize extraneous commitments, appears to be thriving despite his much heavier burden of activities.

Talent is useless without the desire to make the most of it. There are tons of Gulbises and Gasquets who have incredible natural talent, but only one Federer. The difference is one of character: Federer put in all the work to make the absolute most of his talent, whereas the others aren’t as committed. Because he really, really, really loves the game.

Regarding Murray, he’s never played well at IW so it’s not a surprise he got knocked out early. If he gets dumped 1st round in Miami, that’s another thing. But losing early in IW is entirely expected.


steve-o Says:

This is what you can expect if you fancy real fast surfaces: the big servers dominate.

Nonsense. Federer, Dolgopolov, Benneteau, and Djokovic are not big servers, although they have good serves.

The history of tennis tells us that there are many other ways of winning on fast surfaces besides just serving big. Edberg, Rafter, McEnroe, Laver, Rosewall…Even Sampras and Becker were not just big servers, they had great groundstrokes and athleticism at net.

The high bounce is another factor here–the kick serves really kick high and fly away from the returner very quickly. On a less bouncy fast surface, or a fast indoor surface, it would be easier to return serve.

The idea that the baseline style of trading missiles from way back is endangered is silly. There’s still clay and plenty of other slow hard courts. Miami is very humid conditions so the courts will always play veerryyy sloooowwly. Flushing Meadows has been really slowed down, even Cincinnati. Even the O2 was playing super-slow last year.


Giles Says:

Because he really really really loves the $$$$$$$$!


Hippy Chic Says:

At the risk of sounding cynical,Roger does play for the love of the game i dont doubt that,after all he has achieved everything there is to achieve in the game,although i dont believe that money doesnt have something to do with it somewhere sorry,he doesnt exactly need the money and is set for life,so why does he do all the endorsements,hes not exactly turning them down or doing them for free?at the risk of getting heckled 3-2-1.


Ben Pronin Says:

Federer’s something of a businessman. To say that he’s playing because he’s greedy seems… ridiculous? I don’t know the word for it, honestly. Of course athletes play for money. But the top guys (in any sport) make so much money that it can’t possibly be a motivator for them. Tiger, Roger, Kobe, Lebron, they want the majors and championships. Especially the first three guys who’s windows are closing rapidly. Retired athletes still get a lot of endorsments. Nike is still going to put out the RF clothes. Lindt and rolex and all those companies are still going to use Federer. And we all know he makes way more money from them than the prize money from tour events.

So, that’s my take on it.


Gordon Says:

It is a trite advertising slogan to “Love what you do,” but Riger Federer does seem to love this game of tennis unlike anyone else. He enjoys being the statesman of the tour and it appears that he still matters, long after many had written him off.

Contrast him to Marat Safin, who admitted that he really didn’t care all that much for the game, but how else could he make so much money. One of the great talents on the tour, he won 2 slams and was a misery to watch, often just giving up after he fell behind.

Does Roger love the money? No doubt. Could he easily retire if he no longer enjoyed playing the game? In a heartbeat.

The way he is going he will be back in the top 4 before the clay season begins; should anyone ranked 4 in the world be quitting their job they love?

I think we are going to be seeing Roger Federer on tour for a while yet. And I think the tennis world is better off for it.


skeezer Says:

“This is what you can expect if you fancy real fast surfaces: the big servers dominate.”
Nonsense. IW is one of the slowest HC on tour!


Hippy Chic Says:

Gordon agree it is trite advertising,Roger enjoys his job,well many of us do me included,its just us mere mortals dont earn what they earn,nor do they make a big issue about it either,such is the kitsch of the rich and famous.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Not sure if money is the driver for Roger. If that is the case, Roger would have accepted the lucrative ITPL, just like Rafa and Novak. He is very diligent in his sponsor selection tool.

He just has talent and desire. He works very hard for it. Money may play a little part, but looks like he plays to prove himself and enjoy the game of tennis.


Hippy Chic Says:

NK i just think that is so easy to say,i love the game,im not in it for the money etc etc,especially when you have had as much sucess and as much money as he has,dont get me wrong i would say the same about any of the top players,i think its me with a problem,im probably just too cynical.


Michael Says:

Metan,

Raonic is a wonderful talent, but the problem is that he is not able to get a good break to make a mark. So far, at Indian Wells he really looks promising, but I am not sure how much he can go far from here ? I think players like him need a shot in the arm to discover their mojo. Probably a win at Indian Wells could make Raonic a contender at the top. Let us keep our fingers crossed !!

Regarding Rafa’s loss, well it happens in Tennis. It is rare to see Rafa falter on the court and it was one of those days he just could’nt discover his rhythm or motivation. He is also afraid to give much to his first serve with the naggling back problem that is haunting him. I am not sure whether he is playing in Miami. If he does, then this loss could be a blessing in disguise for him.


Michael Says:

Thankfully Novak got through from that belt down in the first set where Cilic was overwhelmingly dominating him. Let us see whether Novak can make something out of this tournament where he has been lucky with the draw as well as upsets of some of the best players in his quarter.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Hippy Chic,

I agree that money does play a part. But also it depends on what stage you are in your career. I doubt money would be driver for guys like Roger, Rafa, Novak. We can’t say. But for me, these guys play for success.


metan Says:

Thanks Michael, hope milos can make it.


Translated Age Says:

What other reason than money do players like Fed and Nadal do adds for Kia and Gillette?

Free razor blades?

(Not that there’s anything wrong with it.)


tfouto Says:

They really, really love the products they sponsor it :)


Ben Pronin Says:

Who wouldn’t want free razors from Gillette? Or free watches from Rolex? Or free chocolate from Lindt? In my opinion, Federer has the best sponsors. Including Nike. I’m saying that as a fan of the products, not as a Federer fan.


Okiegal Says:

@Ben

You’re right on target about the Lindt chocolates and I’ve got the smoothest legs in town!! Lol


RZ Says:

Free Lindt chocolate would motivate me for sure!
:-)


Okiegal Says:

The Nike crew make Rafa and Roger look good on court too…..yep, Rog has some good sponsors…..and Rolex, I wonder how many of those he has??


http://tiahpost.com/blog/ Says:

@steve-o Says:
“It’s not just natural ability Federer has, but incredible dedication and focus.”

Thank you. Thank you, Steve. You have made my point for me. Hope others get it eventually. I have always said we keep counting number of slams when it comes to GOAT. To me, it should not be about that. WHAT MAKES FEDERER GREAT IS CONSISTENCY, DEDICATION AND FOCUS. I mean, for one to keep coming back the way Federer does can only be due to LOVE of what one is doing, and a lot of sacrifice. That is what has to be respected!! He keeps persevering despite anguish and some humiliation (last year)along the way. Continued good luck, friend.


steve-o Says:

@Hippy Chic: if Federer just wanted the money, he could get all the lucrative endorsements even if he played like crap and coast on his reputation alone. He could totally cash in and just go through the motions for a few more years. People would still line up to watch him even so, hoping he could make one more big run. That would be the path of least resistance.

Instead he breaks new ground and makes new changes to his equipment, his game, his coaching situation. Those are big risks he’s taking.

There are many things he does for tennis without formal compensation. Being ATP president doesn’t pay and it’s a huge time commitment. It’s takes away time he could use training or hanging out with his family. But he does it.

He played Basel without a contract last year. There is no reason a professional player, let alone one of Federer’s stature, should play any tournament without a guarantee of payment, but he did it because it’s his hometown and the fans wanted to see him. I can’t think of any other player who would agree to do that.

He’s also not participating in this new league that Bhupathi is creating. He could get $1 million US per match, basically for playing an exhibition. And he would get to choose his opponents, venue, etc. and name all his terms. Probably get more perks than he does at an ATP tournament.

By comparison, he’d have to win five or six matches at a single ATP 500 tournament to make that kind of money. If he wanted to make easy money, that would be the way to go. But he’s not–and indeed, he’s the only top men’s player who’s neither joined nor talked with Bhupathi (besides Del Potro).

Does he like making money? Sure. But that’s not why he keeps trying to push himself. He’s already got enough to live like a king for the rest of his life. He pushes himself because he wants to break new ground and explore new territory. That’s why he’s great.


Hippy Chic Says:

Steve-O fair enough,its like i say easy to say no i dont want the money when you already sit on a kings ransome,but as i already said i dont doubt he loves the game anyway,and more power to him,good for him,ill leave it at that.


Hippy Chic Says:

^Ransom or ransome hmmmm,excuse the spelling^.


tfouto Says:

When Federer wins a title and raises his arms, he’s not thinking for sure:
“Yeah more money coming in”.

The tought exists in his mind, but later, minutes or hours…


http://tiahpost.com/blog/ Says:

@Steve-O, as usual, great points but save your fingers…. people will believe what they want to believe…….


Hippy Chic Says:

Tiapost.com your right people will believe what they what to believe,you yourself are very much like that,you dont believe in perspective,or that things are not always black or white,you make up your mind on an issue and theres no shifting you,your not open to been objective,the thing i have is a difference of opinion is all with Steve-O is all,maybe we couldve had a discussion,but you only seem interested in making indirect sly digs,the other week i made a comment asking a pertinent question about whether Stan could back up his AO win?yet you were not even interested in getting into a discussion about it,you made up your mind Rafa fan sore loser and that was it,good luck with your blog i have a feeling you will need it,although i doubt you will attract many Rafa followers,but then again maybe you dont want them on your forum anyway?which would be defeating the object as i thought a forum was for all fan bases?


Hippy Chic Says:

^BTW If your running your own site you should look at the ones written by Tennis Vagabond or MMT,no emotional bias for or against any one particular player,just honest straight talking about their love of the beautiful game,they are approachable too and open to having a discussion,you could deffinetly learn a thing or two from them on that score^.


Giles Says:

@alison. Well said.


madmax Says:

Hippy Chic Says:
At the risk of sounding cynical,Roger does play for the love of the game i dont doubt that,after all he has achieved everything there is to achieve in the game,although i dont believe that money doesnt have something to do with it somewhere sorry,he doesnt exactly need the money and is set for life,so why does he do all the endorsements,hes not exactly turning them down or doing them for free?at the risk of getting heckled 3-2-1.

March 13th, 2014 at 9:01 am

steve-o, your post of March 13th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

answered hippy chick’s beautifully. It’s not about getting heckled alison, and if you followed Roger for many years and have read about his early life, his ambitions and love for the game that he has known since he was 4 years old, you would know that his passion and competition, will and drive, to be the best is what spurs him on. Money of course, as a younger tennis player would have helped with the travelling and moving from the futures and challenger tours, how do these guys make a living?

We all remember Donald Brown, travelling around in his camper van, because he was broke. As a result of Roger’s ambition to provide for the younger players, a relevant sum of money for a first round win these days in tournaments, one can only surmise that Roger has a heart and an understanding of what it used to be like as a struggling, younger player, trying to make a mark on the tennis circuit.

As a result of this, other players benefit from his insight and understanding. There is absolutely nothing of a monetary nature which involves Roger doing this financially. Anyone with half a brain would have worked this out 10 years ago. He is a multi millionaire and then sum.

Tennis is his first love. Fortunately for him, he can wake up in teh morning and not have to worry about his life when it comes to money. The thing with him, and many other players is that they appreciate the struggle they have had to endure in order to get where they are and they still have their values.

Roger is gifted and talented and hopefully will provide the federer fans with many more wins, because that is what professional athletes are in any sport for, first and foremost, the competition and the basic animal instinct for them is to win.

The bonus for them is they can make a living out of something they are naturally gifted in.

Roger has his head screwed on. He is a businessman and a philanthropist, but an athlete first and foremost.


Giles Says:

Tiahpost. Faderer is your “friend”?
#WishfulThinking


madmax Says:

“in it for the money?”

Perhaps at first, (like anyone who has to make a living),many, many years ago, but that would have stopped pretty much when he had enough to travel and buy a house. Now? He doesn’t need it. He doesn’t need the sponsors. Any fool can see that.


Giles Says:

How many Faderer droolers do we have on this forum now?
#GeezTheyNeverStop
#Cult


Hippy Chic Says:

Madmax sorry im a bit cynical,i think we live in a dog eat dog sort of world where money talks,i dont doubt for a minute that he doesnt love the game as i already said anyway,i havent read his book as the ins and outs of a players life Rogers or otherwise (hubby bought me Rafas for Xmas a couple of years ago that i didnt even want it, i read it and it was boring) life dont really interest me,and as i also said already its easy to say i dont care about the money especially as i already sit on a kings ransome,i am cynical and i cant help it,maybe i shouldnt have said anything though,ill leave it at that,i have my opinion and you have yours.


Hippy Chic Says:

Madmax i think Giles well said was for my post to TIAH POST.COM


Hippy Chic Says:

Anyway more power to him,he loves the game,he loves the life style,play on Roger,a genius with a tennis racket play on..


Giles Says:

Alison. Yes, it was.


Giles Says:

Yeah, yeah Faderer loves the game but probably loves the $$$$$ more. He will have one or two more mouths to feed so he will try and milk the sport and the sponsors as much as he can and as long as he can!
#MoneyMoneyMoney
#MakesFaderer’sWorldGoRound


Hippy Chic Says:

I wish i hadnt said anything really,probably one of those times when i shouldve kept my opinions to myself,regretfully sorry :((..


Hippy Chic Says:

Although i do stand by my posts @4.02,and 4.24am.


skeezer Says:

Calling Federer a Faderer doesn’t work anymore. He has been to the Semi @ AO, won Dubai and has already went deep in this Masters 1000. There might be other top players that are faaaadddddinng this year, but not the Maestro @ 32 yet!


Okiegal Says:

I think Fed is not giving up the game because he is a rather arrogant type of individual who still can’t really believe that he isn’t the #1 ranked player now. He got a new coach, racquet change a healthier back and he’s back in business! He is scared to death about his slam record and will keep persevering to try to win more tournaments and keep adding to his achievements and titles. There’s nothing wrong with that plan……and along with all of that he gets a paycheck and all the chocolates he wants! LOL Get on with it Mr. Federer, you have my utmost blessings!


Okiegal Says:

Watching Milos and Dog. Thought the man from Can was gonna take the second set, but Dog came back and is now ahead again. I believe Dolgo is the Man of the hour now!! He will win this one, playing mahvalous!!


Okiegal Says:

@Chic

Post what the heck you feel like……everyone else does. If the bully can’t handle it…..too bad, so sad. Maybe he’ll take a laxative and get rid of all that bull he dishes out!

Dolgo won in straights……congrats to him!!


Hippy Chic Says:

Okiegal thanks,im glad for Alex,somehow i always root for Rafas conquerer anyway,i did believe it or not for Darcis and Rosol at Wimbledon too,and niether were able to back up such great wins,same with Staks with Roger,and i like Alex and his game,and i hope he goes onto big things him,Kie and Grigor are amongst my favorites of the up and coming players both Milos and JJ are nice but their styles of tennis and their personalities leave me feeling a bit cold,Ernie has alot of potential its a shame he shoots too much from the mouth which puts me off him.


pigoonse Says:

Hippy Chic

Not really a fan of Darcis and Rosol, though it is SWEET that they both can tell their children about the time when they won a match versus the legendary Rafael Nadal.

Same goes for the journeymen who beat Federer, one of whom is going to play Novak Djokovic in the IW Quarter-final. Keep an eye on Frenchman, Julien Benneteau, another crafty, senior citizen on tour at age, 32. ;)


Okiegal Says:

I’m gonna be doggin’ it for the rest of this tournament. He is looking really good and I’m excited! After Andy lost, I was at a loss…..so wishing good luck to Alex.

@Chic^^^^^^^ I forgot to do this before my comment. Yes, u r welcome!! Okie


Margot Says:

@Gordon
Re Safin, I think his parents, both tennis coaches, were the cause of his disenchantment. Remember how miserable poor Safina used to look on court? Apparently nothing she ever did was “good enough” for her parents. I suspect it was the same for Marat. Parents like that rarely produce happy kids.
Meanwhile, well played Dolgopolov! Dogged (sorry) by ill health looks as if he IS healthy at the mo. and playing great unorthodox tennis. What a crowd pleaser.
@Okiegal
BTW really like your style :)


Okiegal Says:

@Margot

Thanks, I’m taking that as a compliment. I enjoy your posts and know you are an Andy fan. I hated he lost his match. I was going to pull for him after Rafa got beat……but wasn’t in the cards! This tournament has been weird! Lots of twists and turns….I’m ready for the “dirty” tournaments, if you get my drift..LOL…….and good luck to Andy, he’s my 2nd fav.


madmax Says:

Giles Says:
Yeah, yeah Faderer loves the game but probably loves the $$$$$ more. He will have one or two more mouths to feed so he will try and milk the sport and the sponsors as much as he can and as long as he can!
#MoneyMoneyMoney
#MakesFaderer’sWorldGoRound

Well, very different to your rafa, right Giles? IPL, endorsements galore, pin up boy, bacardi man, you name it buddy!

Oki, there are plenty of bullies on this site, and that’s because they hang together and form a pack. Don’t know why you don’t post on the right thread. If the likes of G and ST don’t enjoy Roger’s game and put him down for having natural talent, then who has the problem here? And Oki, you are becoming more of a bully supporter, rather than an anti bully.

alison, I read rafa, hard back, it was interesting. I wouldn’t have said it was boring. Roger hasn’t come out with an autobiography. His early life was written about by Rene Stauffer – loads of exclusive interviews with family, friends, previous coaches. Really gave a true insight into his life and the struggles he had when travelling, the temper he had and what his parents said to him in order to teach him values, etc. Really informative. You should read it, when you have the time.

The Roger Federer Story: Quest for Perfection

I read Agassi’s and Macenroe’s autobiography too – very different – but again, really interesting stuff.


Margot Says:

I don’t think it’s the money. He’s got a shed load any way. Think he loves to play and loves the lime light. The end.


madmax Says:

Margot,

love the lilla dig at the end, “loves the limelight”. So transparent.

Well, name me a brilliant athlete who doesn’t love to win, compete, love the lime light? and please don’t say Andy. All athletes have their private moments where they can hide away. Love reading the wimby run up when you see Andy, Kim and the dogs all over the front page of Brit papers, all playing it down, normal family life, same for fed, when you see him out and about with kids, wife, pram, trying to “keep it real”, lying low – those days are gone.

A bit like celebrities, once they become famous, they hand over some of that privacy to the wolves – part of the game, part of the job.

And for all Roger’s “loving the limelight”, rafa, andy, mcenroe, agassi, (many more I would guess), have written their life stories, haven’t they?
Roger hasn’t. Yet.

No doubt he will some day.

Now who loves the limelight?


Hippy Chic Says:

Madmax yes i have heard of the book,however i have no desire to read it sorry,if your interested in everything Roger does when hes not playing tennis then fine your perogative i am not,perhaps when hes finished with his career he will write his Autobigraphy then in the year 2030 or whenever that is?a book as thick as an encylopedia with the title Roger Federer GOATHOOD And How I Changed the tennis landscape Forever? i only read Rafas because hubby bought it for me as a Christmas present that i didnt really want but read it anyway otherwise he wouldve wasted his money,im surprised that you read it though been as your hardly a fan?but then again thats entirely your choice,been a Hippy and a Pagan im more interested in books about spirituality Holistics,Reiki,Godesses and Angels etc etc,tennis is a sport i enjoy but my life doesnt revolve around the people who play it,their lives and mine are poles apart.


Hippy Chic Says:

^All assuming that youself and Steve O do not have a problem with that post^.


Hippy Chic Says:

Pigoonse @8.06pm i just rooted for them all to back up what they did after those big wins,Roger was a shock losing at Wimby,but Rafa been the one dimensional CC player that everybody says he is,probably not somuch of a shock in the end really.


madmax Says:

I read a lot of books, Murray’s autobiography, Macenroe’s auto,Agassi’s auto,Rafa’s auto… find it interesting to get to know the player.

Don’t be surprised what read Alison. It’s very different, different authors, genres, styles.

Am interested in many players, particularly about what they do, and the humanitarian side of their work. That includes Rafa, but mosty, Roger.


Hippy Chic Says:

Madmax as i say thats your choice,its not what im interested in or choose to read about,the rich and famous dont interest me,as i said already i read spiritual books,and as for Foundations and Humanitarian gestures then fine its nice and all note worthy dont get me wrong, but all the back scratching and fawning about it is not something i choose to make a big thing about,especially as many of us mere mortals give to charities everyday without been awarded or expecting recognition,the whole thing is rather trite and tedious IMO,and ive had this conversation many times before,and Grendel,Collin and Margot all agreed with me.


madmax Says:

and when it comes to Rafa, alison, let me make my self clear. I don’t like the time between Points that he wastes and not getting penalised for it. I don’t like the MTO’s that he is well known for, this is what I Think is unfair about the game alison. And, remember, I enjoy the fed/rafa rivalries, they are iconic and will go down in history as some of the greatest moments of the sport. So try not to be too selective. He is a great player, just not my favourite.


Hippy Chic Says:

Madmax i wasnt been selective i was just shocked that you actually read the book is all?like i say your choice,and it may have escaped your notice but im not keen on some of the things Rafa does either,i just get annoyed when other players do it yet dont get called out for it,but then again the difference is i dont believe my favorite is perfect unlike you who seems to think your favorite is something of a saint?Roger is the GOAT but hes not my favorite nor do i think hes perfect SORRY?


Hippy Chic Says:

I dont like it when Rafa takes too long between points,as i wouldnt like him to lose an important point at a crucial time in the game.


Translated Age Says:

Yes it is important to be selective and we each have our personal favourites.

You don’t like Nadal’s MTO and time between points. Fair enough. As a fan, everyone is entitled. I don’t have a problem with it personally (nor do many others – although many do, mostly Federer fans strangely enough).

When it comes to Roger, (through no fault of his own), IN MY OPINION he played in a less challenging era (to the point that I lost interest in tennis for the first time of my life) and had fortunate draws and scheduling after that time. I also don’t care for his behaviour not giving credit to players like Berdych, Djokovic and Murray on frequent occasions.

Roger is a great player, just not MY favourite.


Margot Says:

@Hippychicky
While I think Rog is the most marvellous tennis player,I do not think he is “perfect” either, but apparently this is kind of sacrilege is not to be tolerated on this blog.
Most “normal” fans would not think their favourite is “perfect” either, I’d surmise.


Okiegal Says:

@Madmax

You just made my day….admitting to being a bully with lots of others on this site. If you think I’m one too, so be it! My only problem with this forum for some folks is being a fan of Rafa. You’re barking up the wrong tree if you think that I support G and ST and all the anti Roger stuff is not entirely true. I would be a pretty stupid individual if got on this forum and said Roger wasn’t an awesome player! The only negative things I’ve said is that he’s arrogant, not alone in making that assumption. His crying jag at AO
and I’ve made a jab lately regarding his back…..all in retaliation, I’ll have to admit. I will say I agree with G on h2h and lean little bit on weak era. No one influenced me regarding these two things, that is MY OWN OPINION. There are some non biased fans out there that think so too. But you have never read anything on here where I have talked trash about Roger’ s tennis ability…..He is awesome! Heck, MM, I don’t think G cares much for my posts anyway. I think G thinks I am too friendly with some of the Fed fans on here, not including you, of course. I’m basically not a tacky person, but sometime feel the need to retaliate on Rafa’s behalf and will take up for my fellow posters that get ragged on for saying anything! I think TX should take a poll and see if the posters on here think I’m a bully! Lol I called you one and you in turn called me one……fair enough! I expected the repercussions from that statement…..you did not disappoint me. Nice chat and have a good evening!


Okiegal Says:

@Margot an Chic

I too know Rafa is far from perfect and so are all the others. I get nervous about time violations for Rafa…..but he did speed things up a bit at IW, I just hope that isn’t causing a prob for him. He is so methodical, but he will get used to it. He definitely needs to change that aspect of his game. I thought Novak bounced the ball more than usual in his last match. I don’t know if the officials were dogmatic about the time in every match or not. I think the officials each have their on thoughts on when to start the count. I would be curious to know how many TVS were called. Gals, enjoy your reads!!


Okiegal Says:

@Chic 10:03

Well said!!

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