Djokovic Hobbles Into Monte QFs While Murray Gets Blown Out; Does Dimitrov Have A Chance v Nadal Friday?

by Sean Randall | April 18th, 2013, 7:23 pm
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Novak Djokovic made what I thought was a surprise decision by playing in Monte Carlo this week, just 10 days after suffering what looked to be a very scary injury to his ankle at Davis Cup. Since his return Djokovic has struggled losing the first set in both matches but eventually prevailing over Mikhail Youzhny on Wednesday and today Juan Monaco.

I haven’t seen both his wins in totality but the Serb just isn’t looking good and he isn’t looking comfortable. In fact today, the ankle looked worse than it did on Wednesday when he admitted it wasn’t 100%.

So why is he playing, risking further damage and missed time with Madrid/Rome ahead? I really don’t know. I know he lives in Monte Carlo but as I’ve said before the Prince would certainly understand if he needed to give his body a rest.


At any rate, Djokovic hobbles on and after a slew of upsets he’s now the very heavy favorite to make the finals, bad ankle or not. Tomorrow he gets Jarkko Nieminen who stunned Juan Martin Del Potro today and then he’s got the winner of Richard Gasquet and Fabio Fognini who, if I read it right, somehow knocked out Tomas Berdych (again in Monte Carlo!).

“It’s another big test obviously, again a two-hour match,” said Djokovic. “Obviously I’m not physically out there feeling my best. Somehow feels that I always miss that half a step. But I’m trying. I’m fighting. After I lost the first set today, I tried to find that inner strength. I found it again. So that’s a positive thing. Every day brings a new challenge and we’ll see what happens tomorrow.”

I have to give the veteran Nieminen a chance against Novak. And if the ankle doesn’t hold up I think the Finn, unlike Youzhny or Monaco, could finish the job like he did today, ousting Del Potro in a third set breaker.

“It’s always nice to challenge the top players in the world, if I can do it,” said Nieminen who snapped a 17-match losing skid to Top 10 players today. “Obviously, doesn’t matter how I play, it will be a big challenge. I obviously am enjoying the moment. Play centre court against him. I just try to keep up this good form.”

Speaking of good form, let’s talk about Rafael Nadal. Rafa has won eight straight titles in Monte Carlo and now 44 matches in a row after beating up on Phil Kohlshreiber 6-2, 6-4. With Djokovic ailing I just don’t see anyone who’s even going to push Rafa this week, and especially not his next opponent Grigor Dimitrov.

Grigor has fashioned his game after the great Roger Federer. And that’s quite novel of him to do. The problem is Roger was hapless against Nadal on the clay – you know, the forehand-to-backhand routine – so how’s Grigor, who doesn’t even have Fed’s backhand, going to do any better? He’s not.

“Really looking forward to that match tomorrow,” said Dimitrov who has ONE career Top 10 win. “Even for now I’m very excited. Hopefully I can perform at my best. It’s going to be a great match. I’m feeling quite good coming on court with [the top players]. I feel also physically I’m ready to kind of hang with them more as the match goes on.

“Why not do this thing on a regular basis, of course? I know tomorrow is another point of view, since clay court you’re playing against the greatest of all time. There’s that feeling and anxiety that you want to come out and do the best you can. I think most of all you have to keep a good composure.”

As much as I’d like to see Grigor give a game to Rafa, I don’t see that happening against Nadal who’s just going to hammer away at a lesser version of Federer. How fun.

“Now he’s the present and the future,” Nadal said of Grigor. “He’s able to play very well, very aggressive, very good technique. He’s a complete player.

“I have to try to be solid all the time and put him in not easy positions to attack the ball. Hopefully if that happens I will have my chances to go inside, no? I’m going to try to play a solid match with high intensity and we’ll see what he is doing.”

Elsewhere, my upset pick Stan Wawrinka came through in flying red and white today crushing Andy Murray 6-1, 6-2. Murray’s never taken a set from Stan in three matches now on dirt as the Scot tries to put a poor start to the clay season in the rearview.

“I need to make sure I get good practice in, that’s for sure, over the next two weeks,” said Murray who has never been in a clay final. “I played a lot of matches this year, obviously just not on the clay… The issue is, certain things I need to iron out in my game, things I need to work on.

“No one wants to lose matches like [today’s]. But hopefully I can use it as motivation to improve because I need to do a lot of work. Sometimes you can squeeze through matches and not necessarily play well, [but] you don’t actually see what’s gone wrong because you’ve won the matches, so you think it’s okay. Obviously I’ll need to work really hard over the next sort of two weeks to get myself ready for Madrid.”

Wawrinka moves on to play Tsonga in arguably the best match of the day tomorrow. JW’s been playing awfully well this week, but I like Stan’s clay game to get the job done.

In the the other quarterfinal, it’s the surprising Fognini against Richard Gasquet who had a real good win over Marin Cilic. With all the upsets in the top half and Djokovic not at full strength, what an opportunity for Gasquet this week. An opportunity to win that is, not to choke.

As for the losers, it was a tough day for Del Potro who apparently struggled with a quad issue in the breaker when he inexplicably called the trainer. The Argentine was a late entry into Monte Carlo so perhaps it was worth the trip assuming the injury isn’t bad. Meanwhile, Berdych just mentally doesn’t seem to have it. A guy with his game shouldn’t be losing to Fognini 6-4, 6-2 in less than 80 minutes on any surface.

Tennis Channel continues its coverage Friday at 4:30am ET for you early birds.

FRIDAY MONTE CARLO SCHEDULE

COURT CENTRAL start 10:30 am
[6] J Tsonga (FRA) vs [13] S Wawrinka (SUI)
G Dimitrov (BUL) vs [3] R Nadal (ESP)
F Fognini (ITA) vs [7] R Gasquet (FRA)
[1] N Djokovic (SRB) vs J Nieminen (FIN)


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283 Comments for Djokovic Hobbles Into Monte QFs While Murray Gets Blown Out; Does Dimitrov Have A Chance v Nadal Friday?

Kimmi Says:

GULP!! what happened to Murray? Wawa is good on clay but 1 and 2 is bad. Hope it is just a blip after a big high in Miami.


Brando Says:

@sean Randall : LOL, that was a masterful reading of events so far and the draw there Sean. Loved how you broke through the BS, gave an honest take on events, with a delightful comical touch or 2 and voilà: a spot on analysis is the end result! Doubt you meant it as such, but that was a good, fun read!:-)


jane Says:

“Wawrinka moves on to play Tsonga in arguably the best match of the day tomorrow.”

Yes, this could be a good one. I tend to go with Stan too.

“it’s the surprising Fognini against Richard Gasquet who had a real good win over Marin Cilic. With all the upsets in the top half and Djokovic not at full strength, what an opportunity for Gasquet this week.”

Fognini is playing really well – he was at Miami too. I could see him winning this. But I wouldn’t be surprised with Reeshard either.

“I just don’t see anyone who’s even going to push Rafa this week”

Agreed… clay season will carry on as expected.

“I have to give the veteran Nieminen a chance against Novak. And if the ankle doesn’t hold up I think the Finn, unlike Youzhny or Monaco, could finish the job like he did today, ousting Del Potro in a third set breaker.”

I agree: Jarkko has been playing well obviously; he didn’t just beat Delpo, he beat Raonic before him. And all that Scandinavian metal is clearly inspiring him. ;) I hope Nole hasn’t made a bad choice in playing. :/


M Says:

Kimmi, the clay happened to Andy. It’s just not his surface, I don’t think.

Vamos Rafa!


contador Says:

lol, yes Fognini knocking out Berdych! FF was up to his usual tricks and he is quite happy to show off in front of his fans that were there. That was quite a display from FFF :D

Love those 5 setters at FO between Tsonga and Tstanley. Both are playing great – one of them better be ready to take on Nadal in the semi.

oh man! it was time for Djokovic to go rest and rehab two matches ago! That was just a terrible match with Pico – both were trying to lose.

Jarkko has to like his chances tomorrow. That would be something if a new name makes it to the Final here and beats Nadal; or Tsonga/ Gasquet manages spice up the CC season with a win over Nadal in the semi-final.

Not going to happen though…Nadal is just too good.


Ben Pronin Says:

Interestingly enough, Nieminen was up a set and a break against Nadal way back when in MC or Barcelona before losing. One of the closest matches Nadal had during his 81 match win streak on clay.


contador Says:

Hehehe…Niemenen and his death metal music. He’s the man to do the job. yup.

Have Grigor soften up Rafa a bit, maybe. Grigor is looking bigger and stronger…l postpone my disbelief. You never know, even if the chances seem slim, what will happen.


Kimmi Says:

Great for Grigor to reach the quarter final, and he beat some good players too. Good tournament for him..D! It will be a high order to beat the bull, hope he can make it close. Lets go Grigor!


Brando Says:

@contador: do you have ANY other thoughts on the game other than musing who can beat Nadal? You are dreadfully one note on that front! It was only the other day that you said you find the same winner on clay boring right? Well I’ll trust you to support Rafa during the HC swing- after all, he’s only won 1 mere title in what 2 plus years- hardly usual suspect as a winner there! That shall be nice revealing moment of your ‘i’m tired of the same winner’ lark. Or crap, I don’t know but time will tell: but I doubt it. Ultimately I don’t mind if you hate Rafa, but please do a better job of it. The facetious reasons are just getting beyond the clutching at straw stage in providing phoney reason as to hide your strong dislike of the guy! Knock the pretension and be openly honest: no harm shall be done for it as a consequnce! Actually it’s my fault: why on earth do I read that crap when it arrives without fail? Carry on with that phoney charade, my buddy scroll down has arrived to my comfort!


jane Says:

Although, Brando, I think almost anyone who follows tennis is curious to see if anyone else can beat Nadal on clay. I know I am. Can Murray do it? Can Nole do it again. Perhaps someone else will surprise us? His winning percentage on the stuff is outrageously good – and particularly at Monte Carlo and the FO where he has been almost unbeatable for a decade. The career percentage on clay is much better than Fed, Nole or Murray on hard, and of course there are several possible winners on that surface. Rafa has dominated the FO like no other player has dominated a slam that I have seen. It’s pretty insane! So I do think it’s rather natural that people wonder who can do beat Rafa on clay, especially if they aren’t Rafa fans first and foremost. I mean you don’t have to hate Rafa to be curious if someone else can beat him.


Anna Says:

Yea, I’m pretty sure Rafa’s going to school Baby Fed tomorrow. It’s the quarters and Rafa doesn’t like to lose in the quarters. Even Roger knows that.


contador Says:

Of course it is natural to wonder out loud who can beat Nadal; if anyone. I don’t “hate” Nadal. That is just silly Brando and you know it.

I don’t cheer for the same person to win every time – not even Federer!

So wind your neck back in, Brando, I say, stealing a line from Alison. :D

Wind your neck in and stop being so super sensitive! sheesh… or maybe it is better you take your act to a Rafa “Fanboy cheering site”

I scroll through your cheerleading posts all the time. Your use of the all caps button is particularly annoying!


Brando Says:

@jane: your post seem well reasonable. But from this side of the street, all I see is the same tiresome BS regarding Rafa on clay from folks at times. Will he lose? I hope he pushes him so player x beats him. It’s like WTF: support your guy, root for him. Don’t spend your time just hoping for the downfall of one guy. And if you are to: then be honest about it. Like I said: I do not mind folks hating on Rafa, they can go ahead on that front. But what I find tiresome and annoying is the pretentious BS: how posters hide behind the pretentious facade of curiosity or whatever other description they wish to hide behind as veil to their obvious feelings, when clearly ALL they wish to see is him lose! And that’s being a hater! Like I say: hate on him if you wish to, but knock off the pretentious, phoney reasons as they are not fooling anyone here!


contador Says:

It is called speculation, Brando. Happens all the time in Sports.


Forehand Says:

Very good points Brando.
You do a very good job of exposing the hypocrites here.


Brando Says:

@contador: Right on cue. Firstly: your crap ( what other term suffices here? I just do not know of to describe it) regarding Rafa is of a obvious reek that well to deny it is just plain idiocy: but your a fan of pretentious reasoning’s: so yeah feed your self the BS if you feel you have to. You don’t even cheer for Federer? Why how great off you. Problem is: I’m not in the prize giving business here, so see if that impresses someone else around here. My act? Why so humble my dear? The only one with an act here, and I must admit: an amatuer one, is you. So less of the phoney facade as it’s wearing tiresome with you and more of an open acceptance and recognition of your drivelling BS regarding Rafa would be more apt I say. And my usage of caps lock: LOL, the only thing that seems to keep me using them is having to refer to your BS. Thankfully you have a monopoly on that front, so unless it’s a referenece to your ….. BS, there ain’t a problem on that front! Funny that: in a weird way what bothers you, the root of it all is actually you and your …. BS. Well get it in check and wouldn’t be a problem anymore then!


contador Says:

Look, I’m even cheering for Niemenen to beat Nole. And yes my hidden, pretentious, facetious, agenda is so Nole will be more fit for FO. hahaha……and better ready to take on Rafa.

That happens in sport. People like some intrigue about who will win ; not predictability.


contador Says:

Oh my , I didn’t see your post before I posted. Let it all out there Brando!! Hope you feel better……


Forehand Says:

Provocative stats to infuriate the fedfans further:

Rafa is the ONLY one to win MS tourneys for 9 consecutive years.
Out of those 9 years he won HC MS during 4 different years including a couple of indoor MS.


Brando Says:

@forehand: thank you. Like I said: I have ZERO problem if folks hate Rafa. No problem. But what I find absolutely ridiculous and annoying is when: folks hide their blatant hate with pretentious, facetious, phoony BS reasoning’s that fool no one except themselves. Quit kidding and be honest about it darn it!


contador Says:

I think you need something to calm your nerves, Brando!!


contador Says:

You are absolutely beyond reasoning, Brando. I do not hate Nadal and you cannot make me hate Nadal so stop accusing me LOL!!

I do however want someone else to win part of clay season. Meanwhile, I wait and hope, remark on Rafa’s new shorts looking good but no I neither hate Rafa nor love him.


Roger Federer Fan Says:

Contador,

Great post. Keep up your good work.

Life is very hard these days being a fed fan. It feels so great reading all the comments here.

My fellow fedfans are doing a great job.

Special thanks to my best friend Skeezer for posting Rafa pics from a g@y site. Great job.
BTW, Are you g@y ?


Brando Says:

@contador: I do thank you! Look: I rather be honest about it than not. That’s how feel on this matter. So I have said my bit on it. Atleast you know how I feel about it. I think I need work on not being honest with my thoughts on here though and being somewhat facetious about them. Do you teach classes on this skill Conty as you seem a master of it?:-)


contador Says:

Now, I think you owe me an apology, Brando. You were just venting and having a panic attack, I think.


contador Says:

I don’t teach classes on the skill, Brando. Sorry. I am being honest for pete’s sake!

But you did indeed attack the right poster. I can take it. :D

Just let all your frustrations out on me, it is okay, dear.

Rafa will win MC most likely, not only this year but for many many years to come. :D


contador Says:

And please use the all caps button generously when posting ;)


Roger Federer Fan Says:

“You were just venting and having a panic attack, I think.”

Smart post Contador. Its better to tell this upfront before someone else finds out that we fed fans were doing this all the while.


Brando Says:

@contador: Dear? Why are you warming up to me Conty by addressing me as such? Colour me blushing with with a sly smile! :-) LOL in all seriousness: I don’t mind apologizing when I feel sorry about something at all, but in this case I do not: I was merely being honest on how I see matters, right or wrong. You strike me- outside the Rafa regard- as a mature, intelligent poster. So I know your more than smart enough to realize that there is nothing personal here at all. Just 2 fellow posters airing out their views: good, bad and ugly. And attack you as a poster? Hey: I didn’t hesitate to call this out since I consider you more than able enough to handle my thoughts on this matter, and I don’t doubt that for a second. From hereforth: As a gesture of goodwill I’ll refrain on the caps lock, and consider this interaction on this front at an end. And I hope you’ll take it as: well at least he told me honestly how he feels on the matter, even if he may be right or wrong, he at least extended me that regard. And if you think that then you’ll believe that I am being honest when I say: I don’t think badly of you at all as a poster Conty, so need to feel slighted if at all!


Michael Says:

Murray losing to Wawrinka is not a surpirse. However, the score was. Being beaten 1 and 2 will have a tremendous dent on the psyche of Murray going into the Clay season. Andy’s game is not suited for Clay and the intriguing thing is that he is a slogger and not a hitter and his game infact should fit into Clay of all the surfaces. But for some reason or other he is weak and just not able to execute his ‘A’ game. As regards Novak, he has struggled in this tournament giving sets to Youzhny and Monaco which should be discouraging for him. However, since he is a slow starter, I hope Novak can turn things around from the quarter final stage. All said and done, Nadal looks all set to hoist his 9th Matador flag at Monte Carlo.


Michael Says:

As Sean has rightly put it, I do not know why Novak and his Team took such an unwise decision to play in MonteCarlo ? It is really a very bad thing.


Nadalista Says:

With Murray losing early at MC, Rafa will rise to #2 in the Race to London rankings if he wins MC.

All to play for….

Vamos Rafa!!


nadalista Says:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/04/they-said-what/47131/#.UXDUuMpRCDc

Choice quote:

“While it’s comforting to see that even the top players—those who can make things uncomfortable for the powers-that-be—have been supportive and tolerant of the new emphasis on the longstanding but rarely enforced time violation rule, it’s also clear that the initiative is a work in progress.

……it seems only a matter of time before the time violation rule blows up in somebody’s face. And in his remarks after the match, Murray put his finger on the biggest problem—an umpire is hard pressed to watch three different things at once: the clock, the receiver, and the server.”

Wait, who said that, Rafa? Nope……..Bodo! Yep, the penny is only just now dropping for the chief Federista himself, Bodo.

Inspector plod……

#RafaIsaGenius


skeezer Says:

@Roger Federer Fan

Sorry, next to Humble Rafa you don’t rate. Try another gig. You fail at this one.

#boring


skeezer Says:

@nadalista,

Now you types think Bodo is a genius, ROFL!

#thewaythewindblows


skeezer Says:

“Very good points Brando.
You do a very good job of exposing the hypocrites here.”

Except she has been caught being one herself.

#kettleblack


racquet Says:

She’ll never think Bodo is clever with comments like this (from the above link):

“For a long time now—even before the era of world-class receiving slowpoke Rafael Nadal—players have grown accustomed to allowing receivers even greater time latitude than they allow servers.”

OTOH, I don’t really care for him either. I’m glad he’s addressing this issue. It has turned farcical lately.


skeezer Says:

^ well i like him. And not for reasons others think. He has first hand knowledge and experience from previous tennis eras. You know Rafa fans, if a journy critiques there idol love “poster of him in armani on my bedroom wall”, he is an outcast. lol.

Tigger writes from bias point of biew. Tiggy writes well but comes from bias place.


alison Says:

Forehand Thanks for that bit of info,Rafa been the only player to win a MS for 9 consecutive years,i didnt know that,hes also going for the record of winning a GS for 9 consecutive years too,so i hope he can break that record too :)


Giles Says:

Maybe Bodo is fast coming to the realisation that it is futile to write articles where he constantly slags off Nadal. Time he wrote something sensible.
Oh look, geezer is annoyed!


oromis Says:

Tignor much better at what he does than bodo.Bodo is a provacateur….and pretty biased himself…


Giles Says:

^^ Agreed


the DA Says:

Wawa the Murray Slayer dusted by Tsonga. Nadal/Dimitrov up next.


Wog boy Says:

^ It was pretty good match.


Rsutherland Says:

Tonga wins first Masters Quarter in 2 years…so much talent. The mix of brilliance with heinous errors (though not quite Monfils) seems to produce results that ebb as much as they flow.

Brando – as a fan of Rafa who periodically jumps to his defense on this site; I think you are a bit off with Contador. I just don’t see the Skeezer-esque duplicity…(You know; the ‘lets-all-get-along’ inevitably followed by the nasty-anti-Rafa routine).

Seems tennis-x has a more balanced mix of fans (as compared with tennistalk which seems like an extension of ‘Nadalnews’.) then even a few years ago.
Probably the rise of Djokovic and then the Murray summer-of- 2012 breakthrough has diluted the boarder. It does make it a bit more interesting


oromis Says:

watch and learn young grasshopper…#rafavsdimitrov


Michael Says:

Alison,

It is just two more years of stellar performance and Rafa would make it at Rolland Garros. Age is on his side unlike Roger.


oromis Says:

grasshopper got skills….#talent


oromis Says:

nole has dislocated a bone in his ankle…vajda told a reporter i think….should’nt have played MC…:(


the DA Says:

Dimitrov breaks Rafa. Now watch him serve 2 DFs.


oromis Says:

so impressed…Future top 4 player this dimitrov!

Vamos rafaaa!!


Alex Says:

jajajaja…

All those laughing at Dimitrov’s chances must be feeling like idiots now.


queen Says:

Well I do feel like an idiot. What the hell is going on!!!!


Brando Says:

15 UE’s by Rafa- extremely uncharacteristic mistakes in just one mere set!

Rafa could lose here unless he sorts out his UE’s!


The fighter Says:

wat just happened?


queen Says:

nooooooo!


Ben Pronin Says:

Wow. Just turned it on. Caught a quick glimpse of the stats and Dimitrov was uber dominant on serve whereas Nadal was awful.

Still expect Nadal to win, probably 6-1 in the third. But it’s nice to finally see Dimitrov show off what he’s capable of. Perhaps the future really does lie with him? Too soon to tell but the game is clearly there. If he improves his fitness, who knows? Lendl already said that if he was fit he’d be number 1.

Oh so it’s cold and looks kinda damp out there. Similar conditions to how Hamburg used to be where Fed beat Nadal once. Who knows? At least we’ll get an exciting match here involving Nadal, usually so routine for this guy.


queen Says:

now just watch this guy’s confidence skyrocket


Ben Pronin Says:

Dimitrov hitting with a lot of top spin off his forehand and targeting the Nadal backhand. Nadal is trying to play with way too much air off that side. What happened to the big flat backhand?


Alex Says:

Sad thing is even if Demitrov gets the break and serves for the Match, very likely get a awful game from Demitrov.


Ben Pronin Says:

What a point! Dimitrov’s defense has improved but he’s breathing hard after that one.


Ben Pronin Says:

Wow! Drop volley to end the game after double faulting no less. Dimitrov is serious about this one!

Nadal’s backhand is definitely off. And he seems a little cautious on his forehand side. Although he’s not getting a ton of looks. That one long point where he seemed to take control of the point after a defensive slice from Dimitrov, I feel like he normally does more than that.

Also, he’s sweating profusely. And just hilariously, Dimitrov doesn’t look like he’s sweating at all. Was he genetically engineered with Federer’s DNA or what?


the DA Says:

Rafa is weirdly off but you have to give credit to Dimitrov for playing great. I do expect to Rafa to get through this. Dimitrov is known for his lapses.


Ben Pronin Says:

Nadal should’ve killed that backhand! That was awful. Poor miss by Dimitrov.

Nadal sounds like he’s moaning.


Ben Pronin Says:

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Brando Says:

What is going on with the BH Rafa? Yikes, so awful!


Ben Pronin Says:

The commentators are saying the conditions are really affecting Nadal. The clay isn’t bouncing the way it normally does and he’s a little confused as to how it’s reacting. Kind of a weird excuse for the king of clay but up to Dimitrov to take advantage of whatever he can get.


Ben Pronin Says:

Win or lose, looking forward it’s nice to see how well Dimitrov’s backhand is holding up. Still plenty of improvement to be had but lots of positive signs from this guy.


Ben Pronin Says:

I think it’s safe to say this is Dimitrov’s match to lose. Nadal is out of sorts but he’s not gonna give it away.


Alex Says:

Unfortunately we’ve seen how Demitrov handles pressure vs the top guys, although he did win a set. So maybe now is the time to not choke.


Daniel Says:

Damm, meeting all day just following scores ad here. Keep posting details guys!


Ben Pronin Says:

Nadal finding some range on his backhand. I smell a break.


Ben Pronin Says:

What did Dimitrov just hurt?


Ben Pronin Says:

I see some sun! Nadal wears him out.


Ben Pronin Says:

Dimitrov’s right inner thigh is apparently killing him. Still fighting though.


Wog boy Says:

Nothing but respect for Dimitrov !!


Ben Pronin Says:

Ace seals the win!

Not his best but he found his game when he had to. Nadal’s first test of the clay season. Maybe the field will be relieved that he dropped a set this time around :D

Only good things to take away for Dimitrov from this match. Gave the king a huge fight inside his most treasured palace. Fitness still an issue but his game is much improved. I say buy stock now.


the DA Says:

See Brando, no worries ;) Rafa looked relieved to get through that.

One thing Grigor needs to work on is fitness. That’s not the first time he’s cramped. I remember when he and Gasquet both threw up after a long rally.


Giles Says:

V A M O S C H A M P!!
K I N G!!!


Alex Says:

Great Match. Really impressed with Demitrov.


Ben Pronin Says:

This should give Tsonga some hope. He can execute a game similar to Dimitrov, but he’s probably more consistent right now. And he’s certainly more fit. If the weather is similar tomorrow, I wouldn’t be surprised if Tsonga manages to steal a set, too. Closing it out though? Doubt it. But who knows?

Nadal’s backhand on clay is somewhat a liability. I’m not sure why he doesn’t flatten it out a little more the way he does on hard and grass. Timing issue maybe? I think he was also a little frustrated with how good Dimitrov was playing and pressed a little too much at times on his forehand side. He should be more comfortable against Tsonga because he owns him. But like I said, he won’t give anything away. Whoever wants to beat him is going to have to beat him.


contador Says:

Wow! the kid got set. A set off Rafa at MC is a good start :D

But, my bracket needed Rafa to win that match. I’ll have to watch that match!

Now Rafa will be fired up not to lose another set.


Giles Says:

Rafa has a bit of strapping on the left side of his back. Hope it is not serious.


Wog boy Says:

My understanding is that it is going to rain and it will be pretty cold on saturday, calder than today in MC.


Giles Says:

^^ and Sunday


Wog boy Says:

In this kind of weather, bounce and spin don’t really work the way Rafa likes.


Brando Says:

VAMOS RAFA!

So, so, so, so proud of Rafa for that one!

And yeah- more than a little relieved!

36 UE’s in a 3 set match, and that too on clay- unheard of from Rafa!

Ever!

He played a godawful 2nd set, and his BH seemed to be gone on a holiday for a long while.

Yet:

It was so pleasing to see him fight through this knowing he is playing below par for his level, that he got tested, recognizes he has to work on stuff still and above all else: THE JOY he showed when he won!

Vamos champ- that is what you call a true championing: even if it is a shocker for you at office, you still come through!

Final 2 cents, last but not least:

WELL PLAYED DIMITROV- STANDING OVATION from myself on that performance!

His thigh did hurt him in the last 2 games, and yes he lost: but there is NOWAY on earth this match was anything other than a plus for him.

I do believe Rafa didn’t help myself at times, and i doubt anyone would deny that here either, but Grigor took care of his side of the bargain pretty, pretty well.

My prediction:

Dimitrov will be top 16 by USO or certainly end of it.

2 years down the line: GS contender for sure.

Too, too much game not to- just needs fitness work that’s all.

With a performance like this, he’ll be motivated enough to do so IMO and his build is the type that can be developed!

Well done to both!


the DA Says:

Rafa had 18 winners, 36 UFEs. Not his usual high standards on clay. I agree that Tsonga should be encouraged but he can be flakey. I don’t think the weather is going to get any better tomorrow.


Brando Says:

@the DA:

Thanks the DA, i was seriously worried but I am glad you were cool about it, lol! ;-)


Wog boy Says:

Sunday should be cloudy and cooler than today, rain not likely.


the DA Says:

Now onto the Fognini show.


Brando Says:

Re the weather:

Yes Rafa prefer’s it sunny, but in all honesty: it’s not big of a deal.

And i highly doubt it has been sunny for 45 matches in a row at MC for Rafa, LOL!

The issue for him was: the unbelievable UE count- and the weather wasn’t the reason for that.

A bad day at the office for Rafa considering his usual MO, and the UE stat just completely supports that as a fact.

His BH particularly was AWOL for a while there.

Why did this happen?

A multiple reasons really:

First and foremost Grigor played really well- credit to him on that one.

Rafa seemed somewhat nervous, and then when the BH gave up on him he went into his shell abit.

Despite that though: take out set 2 (15 UE’s in that one- crazy figure that!)

He played well in set 1 and was keeping up with the form guy in set 3 pretty well.

This, IMHO, was a good thing for him:

His game fell out on him unbelievably strangely, and he was nervous because of it. Yet he fought, fought some more and did not give the match away at all.

Hence, the joyous celebration at the end.

My prediction re Tsonga match:

Expect a focused, aggressive Nadal looking to ramp up his game.

Today may fire him up even more IMO!


racquet Says:

Looks like Lendl was on to something in his assessment of Dimitrov at Brisbane earlier this year. And he certainly didn’t seem rattled by Rafa’s “aura”.

I’ve said it before. Of all the next gens I like his game the best. I hope he works out the mental and physical issues.


Ben Pronin Says:

What’s ironic is how so many pundits believe that the chances of a top player having a one handed backhand in the foreseeable future are so slim. Good to see Dimitrov doesn’t care about that :)


racquet Says:

@ Ben Pronin

It certainly didn’t break down as much as the ‘other’ one-hander Rafa targets. Or was Rafa not getting as much spin and height today? I only caught the last set.


Brando Says:

LOL true re the BH thing:

IF the BH is good enough then all the pundits can predict whatever they want as it is of no matter.

Look what how Wawa did with his BH v Nole at AO, and Andy yesterday.

Dimitrov’s wasn’t exactly struggling today either was it?

The way pundits go on about it at times it seems that anyone wishing to play with a single handed BH has lost the match before it’s even started!

PS:

Isn’t it true that the 2 most successful GS players of all time also owner’s of a single handed BH?

So much for the pundits then!


Ben Pronin Says:

The evolution of the game is leaning towards two handers. And a lot of people think Federer is probably gonna be the last great player with a one hander. But I hope Dimitrov proves them wrong. Simply because he’s really good and capable.

The conditions hampered the clays bouncing effect. I mentioned that Federer beat Nadal in similar conditions in Hamburg years ago. So Dimitrov’s backhand not breaking down has to do with that. And also Dimitrov is taller, so the bounce wouldn’t be as high for him as it is for Federer.


Wog boy Says:

Fognini’s movement is so deceiving.


rafaeli Says:

Did anyone notice taping on Rafa’s back?


Brando Says:

No, re tape on Rafa’s back.

Did not notice anything unusual or hampered in his play.

Thankfully.

His celebration at the end also didn’t indicate anything.

Think and hope he is fine.


Brando Says:

BREAKING NEWS:

Marian Vajda told Sky Sports in an interview this morning that Novak Djokovic had dislocated a bone in his ankle.

WOW, kinda supports the observation by some on his matches so far- still an issue that ankle.


racquet Says:

@Ben Pronin

Thanks. That would explain it.


the DA Says:

Tignor says that Rafa had his back taped, although I didn’t notice it.

@ Brando – what? Is is even possible to play with such a condition? I know you can play with a broken toe but a dislocated ankle bone?


skeezer Says:

Congrats to Dimitrov, and exposing the obvious.
—-
Very concerned about Noles ankle. Does this mean he is out? Any status going forward?


Wog boy Says:

skeezer,

From what I know he is playing, don’t ask me why.


Brando Says:

@the DA:

I know.

Not to cause any suspicious on Vajda or what it says but:

– It was a ankle sprain for sure according to all reports, including Novak’s admittance i think.

– He was advised, initially if i remember, to have 10 days rest minimum. Maybe even 30 days.

Well he has played a match after 10 days, and even started practising after 5.

Sky Sports is a solid source and Vajda, of course, is a reliable man regarding this bit of information.

Unless it’s a mis-communication issue, then I believe Vajda 100%.

A dislocated ankle bone?

Considering what posters have said here on his last 2 matches, then from afar i guess his ankle is still an issue.

Can he play with it?

I guess he can.

Is he doing himself any favours by doing so?

I highly doubt it.

If it’s gone from a sprain to a dislocated bone, then unless I am mistaken, then that is bad news.

It’s possible furthered the initial damage.


Brando Says:

@Skeezer:

Zero information on any withdrawal, but as a non- fan of his:

I wish he were to withdraw. He’s just damaging himself by playing so.

A ankle sprain to a dislocated ankle bone- that isn’t good news IMO.


Ben Pronin Says:

How do you dislocate a bone in the ankle? Why the hell is he playing then??? Didn’t he say his MRI showed nothing serious?


Nadalista Says:

Xisca has such beautiful skin, flawless.


skeezer Says:

wog boy

:(. Maybe they just pop it back in and tape it up? Still can’t see that, knowing how hard he uses those ankles. They way he plays with them, he needs them in elite shape.


Ben Pronin Says:

It has to be miscommunication. No way does he play on bone damage. Doesn’t he remember what happened when Davydenko played with a broken wrist?


Brando Says:

@Ben Pronin:

Hopefully it is mis-communication.

If it isn’t though then i just do not understand why he would want to play on in that case.

I think his management is letting him down here: someone needs to step up and say ‘no, not in that shape you don’t play’.


skeezer Says:

Brando
Please provide the link thanks


Brando Says:

@Skeezer:

Sorry I cannot.

It’s from a twitter search. Did a basic search ‘Novak Djokvic ankle’ after seeing what someone earlier mentioned, and it was widely reported on there.

Just double checked, and it has been posted by a lot of folks on there.

Usually it is a good source for breaking news on items.

Apparently it was a Marian Vajda interview with Sky Sports.

IF ture, personally i have no reason to think otherwise, then Vajda as a authority on Novak and Sky Sports as a source makes me think:

This is pretty reliable information.

Hope time proves otherwise.


Wog boy Says:

The only thing I can think of is that Vajda was lost in translation or,if he was speaking in English, translated from Slovakian to English directly word that doesn’t have such meaning in English as in Slovakian. I know we do that often, Slovakian and Serbian are similar Slavic languages, when we speak English and the word doesn’t have same meaning when it is used in English sentence.


Brando Says:

true>ture lol.


Brando Says:

Yep, agree.

Unless it’s lost in translation, then the chance of it being incorrect is minimal.

Hopefully it is a mis-communication, personally, I’m hoping it is as opposed to thinking it is.

Regardless of it all though: i think 90% of people here though Novak should not play in the first play.

Most of his fans for sure.

Based on what those who saw him play have said: he definitely should not have played.

It probably still is a issue- let’s wait hope for the best and wait for something official, and certain.


Wog boy Says:

Meanwhile, Fognini is on fire, set and the break up.
It looks like there is more Italians, since the crowd goes for Fognini.


alison Says:

Annabelle Croft said this morning,that his coach had told a reporter,about the dislocated bone in his ankle.


Ben Pronin Says:

There’s definitely some irony here. Gasquet and Berdych trade off matches in Indian Wells and Miami. And then both get beaten by Fognini in Monte Carlo. How? I don’t know. But it’s quite a spectacle.


alison Says:

Nadalista Xisca is very beautiful very flawless skin indded,is there any truth to the rumour that she and Rafa are engaged i wonder?


Ben Pronin Says:

This match is already terrible. Nieminen serves at like 2 miles an hour. Djokovic shouldn’t even lose a point to him.


oromis Says:

Carole Bouchard @carole_bouchard

Nadal confirms something is going on with his back but
refuses to give details cause has enough of medias talking
about his injuries.

I welcome this change…stop talking about your injuries rafa.


Ben Pronin Says:

Surprisingly, their matches have been close in the past and I just don’t get why. I guess the lack of pace Nieminen produces actually hurts Djokovic. Ridiculous.


rafaeli Says:

Novak and Nieminen have the same style, it just depends on who makes the least errors.


Brando Says:

LOL, Peter Fleming just actually also said that.

Of course, acknowledging who is the better one at that style.


jane Says:

So is it true that the weather affected Rafa’s play? He didnt like the conditions or they didn’t suit his game or something?

I figured Fabio would win. Could very well be him in the final. He plays well.

Jo and Stan was a 3-setter, which is not surprising, but I kind of thought Stan would come through, maybe be buoyed by his win over Andy and new coach.


alison Says:

Well correct me if im wrong,but it doesnt look like the ankle is bothering Novak that much,or having that much impact on his movement,still early days so far though.


alison Says:

Well it doent look to me like hes thinking of tanking in this match as was suggested by Bada Bing yesterday,IMO he looks pretty fired up.


alison Says:

^Doesnt not Doent^.


Brando Says:

@Alison: Completely agree. Saw first 3 games and thought there is no issue at all. He looks fired up if anything. I think his issue is form not ankle base on what I saw. Regardless of what I or anyone else says: he played the querrey match, he played 2 more after that and guess what: he’s playing today!


jane Says:

Tignor says the “heavy, overcast conditions” affected Rafa’s game versus Dimitrov – Just read the reaction.

I also read that Nole’s coach, in an interview with Sky sports may have been misquoted or mistranslated, hence the renewed discussion by twitter/reporters re: ankle. Apparently he prepared as normal today and always planned to play.


alison Says:

So everyone thought it would be so easy for Rafa against Grigor,when pondering if short shorts wearing Rafa would be pushed by Grigor her words were not not bloody likely,so Rafa gets pushed to 3 sets,so to use one of Janes other phrases who knew eh?


jane Says:

alison, I don’t know. Didn’t see the match. Tignor himself said he though Rafa would target Grigor’s backhand like he did Fed’s and he DID do that I guess for 1 set. But then things switch around.
Tignor mentions both the weather and that Rafa’s back was taped. So maybe these were factors? Like I say, can’t comment as didn’t see it.


alison Says:

Brando he looks fine a set and 3/0,seems to be coasting now,unless the unthinkable does happen and Jarko has the comeback of comebacks,he looks primed for Fabio tomorrow.


jane Says:

Grigor Did push both Nole (at IW) and Andy (at Miami) but in both cases, when he was serving for the set, he choked and served multiple double faults. As DA mentioned above. This time he didn’t I guess, so that’s good progress for him! Hope I get to see the match on replay and see what happened.

BTW, it wasn’t just me who thought it was unlikely that Grigor could beat Rafa. Many felt that way. So good for him to win a set cleanly.

Meanwhile, Ajde Nole!


BadaBing Says:

-he looks pretty fired up–

I didn’t see it, Alison. If he looks good, as you say, then he’ll go all the way.


rafaeli Says:

Novak bores his opponents into submission.


Brando Says:

@Alison: yep. He’s perfectly fine based on this. Beating opponents he should beat. No drama this time.


Giles Says:

I repeat Rafa had the side of his back taped. Hope this won’t be an issue. Vamos Rafa!


alison Says:

Jane i just dont think anything can be taken for granted is all,maybe the backs bothering him i dont know,Tsongas also playing great so that will be another difficult match i expect.


alison Says:

Bada Bing he looks good,this is the best hes played all week,with Rafa thats the worst hes played all week.


jane Says:

alison, but he won – even if he lost a set. He still won, and he’s still unbeaten here since 2003. I agree Jo could be tough; again, I haven’t seen his matches so I can’t comment on his form.

——————–

Nole’s doing much better on 2nd serve today, winning more points.


alison Says:

Giles i hope so too.


Giles Says:

alison. Not “maybe the backs bothering him” , it obviously is bothering him if he has had it taped.


alison Says:

Jane yeah he won,but im not confident about his chances here TBH,all streaks come to an end eventually anyway.


alison Says:

Seems like Novaks playing his way into form,agree with Brando although the ankle has been bothering him,i think he was out of form,just needed some rythum on CC.


Steve 27 Says:

Tsonga has a awful backhand. See the match against Djokovic this year.

Tomorrow a duel of two great clowns. The crowd certainly going to spend big.


jane Says:

“not confident about his chances here” – Well, I think you can be confident enough, alison, about his chances, even though he lost a set. I guess the weather might impact Rafa’s play, though, since rain is in the forecast.

—-
Meanwhile, not liking that Nole has lost a game once again when serving for the match, just like yesterday. Not sure what that’s about. Hopefully he can stay more focused going forward. Overall, though, his best match of the week. Ajde!

Just in time, too. Looks like it’s going to rain.


Brando Says:

@Alison: to me he’s physically fine. So need for me to say more on that- it’s not a concern I feel at all. His form? He is playing a 31 year old who was completely shattered by all accounts after yesterday’s match v Delpo and is also the present world no. 47. Exactly what else was to be expected here?


Daniel Says:

Remember that Rafa lost to Fed in Hamburog in similar conditions and the infamous Soderling match in RG. Also lost a set and was 0-2 in fourth set to Novak in last year RG under rain. He doesn’t like dump conditions as the ball doesn’t get spin. Yes it get slower but remove the explosion effect (up and power) from his shots.


Steve 27 Says:

Fognini, domani è il tuo turno per finire sporchi trucchi del serbe.


Giles Says:

“Rafa confirms something is going on with his back but refuses to give details because has enough of medias talking about injury” @carole bouchard


alison Says:

Giles fair enough,but the reason i said maybe was because i dont feel like pontificating about another players injury,especially another Rafa injury,otherwise i will get attacked for been another Rafa fan who makes excuses for his injuries.


alison Says:

Steve 27 please translate.


Wog boy Says:

jane,

I don’t like it either, he was broken twice in the second set, just lost a focus. It is happening too often lately. His serving wasn’t great. But I am happy with result, ajde Nole:)


jane Says:

True Daniel, there are various examples to show that the overcast conditions affect Rafa’s game.


Daniel Says:

Looks like the back muscle that holds obliquo abdomen muscle. Probably feelimg pain whe. Rotating both to serve and hit backhand as he is lef hander so that is the muscle which rotates when he hit backhand. That can explain his serving and BH bein poor.


Steve 27 Says:

Tanks, Giles for the picture.
Nadal is suffering Federer syndrome.
Age happens to everyone except Dorian Gray.


jane Says:

Giles, it could be a kind of “precautionary” tape that they sometimes wear, or at least a less serious niggle as opposed to an injury; I know Nole had his arm/elbow taped during IW (and maybe Miami too, can’t remember). So just hope for the best.

Wog boy, I know: he shouldn’t lose focus. It can’t be nerves. He needs to stay in the game/point right to the end! But yes, Ajde. :)


Giles Says:

Daniel. So what is the solution?


Miki Says:

@alison…I used Google Translate, and as I thought even before using it, it means something like: Fognini, tomorrow it’s your turn to finish the dirty tricks of the Serb.

Bullshit, if you ask me :)


jane Says:

Steve27, lol. But sadly, it’s true. Time waits for no one.


Ben Pronin Says:

Novak and Nieminen have the same style like Nadal and Monaco have the same style.


Giles Says:

jane. If you read the tweet I posted he confirms he is having problems with his back but won’t talk about it.


jane Says:

But what I am saying Giles is that it could just be pain, not an injury, so the tape could be just to help mitigate that. Lots of players wear that kind of tape, sometimes it’s blue. I didn’t see his match though so I didn’t see his form.


Brando Says:

@Daniel:

That back issue is what affected him today on the BH side.

As poster’s noted during the match here, his BH went AWOL.

So clearly this may be due to his back tape issue.

The serve?

That was perfectly fine thankfully.

Re conditions:

Disagree completely.

Sure, it’s well known, the sunnier the weather the better Rafa like’s it.

That’s just a preference though.

You cite 3 matches there: excactly how many in comparison did Rafa win on clay in such condition’s?

And also against the same opponents?

I bet a better % for sure.

And he also won today didn’t he?

IMHO: the weather was not the issue that affected him today.

His BH going missing and a colossal UE count (36- when does Rafa give charity such as that on a tennis court?) is what hindered him.

Like YOU just pointed out: maybe his BH was affected due to this back issue.

And those 3 losses?

1- Soderling:

From Rafa’s side his issue was knee and mentally feeling done in from his parent’s divorce.

IF he could change anything regarding that match, he’d change those 2 aspects regarding himself.

The weather was not an issue.

He still won a set and took it to the TB in another in that one.

2- Federer:

Rafa won first set 6-2 in that one: hardly weather affected there!

And of course: Federer was at his peak, brilliant on clay and Hamburg is his turf more than Rafa’s.

Fed beat him there NOT the weather.

3- Novak:

LOL, it was raining on the court- how many player’s wouldn’t be affected by that on clay?

And the ONLY complain Novak had about going off was:

WHY not earlier?

LOL- the conditions were poor for BOTH.

Difference was: Rafa was completely obsessed and angry about it (see the footage if you don’t believe me) whilst Novak:

2 sets down, he was swihging as he had NOTHING to lose.

WHICH player would not do the same in that scenerio 0-2 v Rafa on clay?

LOL, they ALL would.

BOTTOM LINE:

YES, sunnier weather is better for Rafa.

BUT this weather does NOT impede him greatly. And thoase losses were for other reason’s as opposed to the weather, LOL!

Going forward, his visible back concern MAY be more of a concern, IMHO, than weather forecast.

Atleast the players would agree: even in murky weather Rafa still kicks butt on clay!


Steve 27 Says:

I really liked the Djokovic from the Montreal, U.S. Open 2007, his game has been gained but lost magnificence.


jane Says:

Brando, Tignor seemed to think conditions affected Rafa’s forehand: he said “Nadal, thrown off, began to struggle with his forehand; he couldn’t seem to get it past the service line in the heavy, overcast conditions,” as the conditions affect spin I’d assume.


Brando Says:

@Steve 27:

Completely agree.

He was way, way more aggressive then.

I even enjoyed his game when he beat Rafa at Cincy in that period.

He reminded me of a former favorite: Safin.

Now?

I just cannot watch him.

It’s all efficiency on every front, emphasis placed on using his defensive skills as the central advantage and it’s all monotonous.

He hardly goes for it anymore, unless he is completely behind in a match.

No wonder he struggles against lesser opponent recently: he pretty much hands the initiative to them saying ‘ go for it- as I won’t’ and it’s just a bore to watch for me.

Outside big name matches i just do not watch him anymore!


Ben Pronin Says:

Brando, how many excuses do you need to list for only 3 losses?


Steve 27 Says:

Brando, I think, not only in tennis but in life, as one grows, matures, it becomes less free, less rebellious, and in adulthood, pragmatism dominates us all feel comfortable with getting things that we are getting even at the cost ourselves.


Brando Says:

@Jane:

That’s just his opinion.

IMHO, his FH was fine.

The reason why he wasn’t doing much damage with it was because his BH completely went AWOL- and that is way more likely due to his back than the weather- Rafa went into his shell, and started looking to contain Grigor: hope that he start’s making mistakes.

But because his game was completely falling apart, 15 UE’s alone in set 2, 36 UE’s overall- he just wans’t going for shots or hitting the FH with ANY conviction or atleast with real intent behind it.

Despite this, his FH was what that kept him in the game along with the serve when his BH was somewhere else other than in MC.

Honestly:

I was concerned about his BH and crazy UE’s than the other or anything else during it.


Brando Says:

@Ben Pronin:

How bad is your maths?

He lost 2 kid. Work on your number skills i suggest.


Brando Says:

@Steve27:

Spot on.

It’s a true thing that: hence why I like Marat soo much- he wouldn’t even let wisdom and maturity get the better of his rebellious nature!

LOL!


Steve 27 Says:

Words of Nadal on Grigor Dimitrov:
If we talk about the next generation, Dimitrov is destined to be among the best, to be number one, “Nadal conceded after TVE.” Do not know when, but it is the following. I was surprised especially its ability to keep the ball on the track. I think he has all the shots. They said they failed over backwards, but I do not what it seemed. I was impressed how the balls back. I thought the point was under control and he answered with a well-placed blow. It has a terrific slice backhand, “said the seven-time Roland Garros.


Ben Pronin Says:

Are we already saying his back is the reason for his backhand problems? How do we know this? Because of some tape? Stop speculating/creating excuses.


jane Says:

New tweet from Carole Bouchard:

Carole Bouchard ‏@carole_bouchard 43m
Nadal said he needed 2 weeks after Indian Wells to get treatment for knee. Says he lacks training so body suffering. But we’ll fight anyway.


Brando Says:

@Steve27:

the feeling is mutual:

“It’s a tough loss,” said Dimitrov. “Of course, I think I gave everything I had today. I must say, all the credit to him. He’s an extraordinary player, extraordinary fighter. Today he obviously showed why he’s the best not only on that surface, I believe, but he’s one of the best out there.


Brando Says:

@Ben:

My my- I guess the media and players pay great attention to my words here right?

LOL- who’s making excuses.

I said it MAY have affected his BH kid.

And guess what?

A fed fan Daniel was entertaining that notion himself.

And excuse?

He won- what excuse?

If you take off your ‘is he making an excuse glasses for a second’ and think:

– Did Rafa have a tape on his back? Yes.

– Did I (Ben Pronin) say his BH has gone here during the match? Yes.

– Could the 2 POSSIBLY be related to one another?

And the penny finally drops.

Simply put:

No excuses as none are needed, especially when Rafa HIMSELF declined to discuss his back concern.

Just MUSING between posters as to whether it MAY have affected his BH.

And you don’t need a MBBS to figure out it might just possibly be a valid thing he’s talking about there.


Brando Says:

@Jane:

Thanks for that.

It makes sense.

He’s obviously managing his knees- nothing new there.

Possibly didn’t do enough training for a while, hence the body is somewhat taking the sudden matches slightly harder perhaps?

Either way: like it say’s there, Rafa is fighting on and he doesn’t wish to talk about it.


Steve 27 Says:

And I wonder why so many people hate the Spanish, you may like or not his game, but what is clear is that leaves no one indifferent.


Ben Pronin Says:

Brando, you said “That back issue is what affected him today on the BH side.
As poster’s noted during the match here, his BH went AWOL.
So clearly this may be due to his back tape issue.”

So now you’re contradicting yourself.


jane Says:

This is Tsonga’s first Masters semifinal since November 2011, and I am not sure if Fabulous Fabio has ever reached a Masters semi; his best surface is clay though.


Daniel Says:

Brando,

Agree in parts but the point is after 2004 when nadal became Nadal, how many matches he lost? 2 to Fed, 2 to Djoko, 1 to Ferrero, 1 to Soderling, 1 to Verdasco and 1 to Zeballos. Out of this 8, Zeballos don’t really count so 2 was on thsi conditions. I think is safe to say is easier to beat him under this conditions than norma sunny conditions. What do ou think.

I was preparing a post yesterday but mu connection died with all lost Nadal had on clay ever and to whom. You can count in one hand how many active players beat him: Fed (2-12), Djoko (2-12), Zeballs (1-1), Verdasco (1-6). And that’s about it. All others are retired (Coria, Ferrero and Gaudio, 3 wins pre 2005) and Soderling who nobody knows if will ever get back on court.


Brando Says:

@Ben:

Full marks for persistence, but you score zero for a rebuttal.

Read the post again:

Point 1: His BH went AWOL today. I, you, others oicked up on that.

Point 2: ‘This MAY (key word) be due to his back issue’:

As far as putting 2 and 2 together that isn’t a bad attempt at making 4!

As a fan, i’m not making any excuses here- as there isn’t any need to even venture there in the first place.

My concern lies in Rafa’s play today.

The biggest issue there was the BH, and thinking the back MAY have affected it- well, change his surname to Federer and you would be here musing such concerns!


Daniel Says:

Giles,

Ref how to heal it? Rest. Usually this things linger a bit longer and if is not to serious it is more a disconfort. Similar when you hurt sonething woriing out but is able to keep working out even so. Because when muscular problems are serious it compromise your movement pretty bad.


Steve 27 Says:

Jane, Fognini vs Montañes is a classic. Last three games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFUpHabJj5A


Ben Pronin Says:

What the bloody hell has Tsonga been doing?


jane Says:

Daniel, wow hey? About as sure of a thing in sports as there is = Rafa winning on clay. It’s a low risk bettor’s paradise as there’s very high predictability.

————————–

I haven’t read the whole thread yet, but did anyone see that piece at tennis.com on returners holding up servers? I guess it was prompted in part by something Andy said? It seems true in some cases I like Fabio, but he definitely does that. As does Serena (which Bodo mentions).


Ben Pronin Says:

Brando, I don’t care if Nadal’s back is taped or not. He could’ve just had a bad day the way anyone has a bad day. It’s not always tied to injury. He still won, he’s still playing, he’s still the top 5 favorites to win this title.


skeezer Says:

Lol Rafa has trained his fans well with excuse mongering. Continue:


jane Says:

Steve27, yeah, I remember that match for some reason. And the one versus La Monf in 2010.


Ben Pronin Says:

Jane, I did see that and I completely agree with Murray. I don’t even get how this was ignored as long as it was. Server’s pace!


jane Says:

I guess I am behind on that Ben, but interesting piece for sure.

Carole’s latest tweet on Nole:

Carole Bouchard ‏@carole_bouchard 38m
Djokovic said he rly felt finally great, made a big step forward and is now hoping he can keep this level. He awaits a big fight vs Fognini.


Brando Says:

@Daniel:

– ‘I think is safe to say is easier to beat him under this conditions than norma sunny conditions. What do ou think.’:

Completely agree. Recognized that in my first post.

-‘ 2 to Fed, 2 to Djoko, 1 to Ferrero, 1 to Soderling, 1 to Verdasco and 1 to Zeballos’:

These losses you list- I think you are using them as an example to support the notion that: CERTAIN weather conditions aide in beating Rafa right?

IF that is what you doing then, i think you are trying to deconstruct his game to a possible theory:

Certain weather conditions= Vulnerable Rafa.

Basically you are looking at the CAUSES of WHY Rafa lost there.

You think the WEATHER had a real part, possibly, in his losses there.

Here’s MY TAKE on those losses:

1- ZEBALLOS: You ruled it out as to why. No need to add to it.

2- VERDASCO: Weather had ZERO affect on his game here. How about the conditions? Not a crazy reason right? Something that he, Djokovic complained about.

3- FERRERO: Weather had ZERO effect here- maybe his blister’s that even Ferrero acknowledged post match? Taking a wild guess there!

4- FEDERER:

– HAMBURG: Rafa won set 1 6-2 there- CLEARLY his game was fine regarding the weather there. Just Federer was better than him on that day- NOT the weather.

– MADRID: Weather was perfect that day- nice and sunny. No issue.

5- DJOKOVIC:

– MADRID: Nice weather again, sunny.
– ROME: Nice weather again. Problem? Losing in almost the first round to LORENZI, facing a unbeaten Novak, playing with a foot concern, and moonball galore is enough to suggest- the weather was the LAST THING on Rafa’s mind here.

He lost since Novak was playing better tennis at that time, and Rafa was mentally feeling no confidence in front of Novak.

His words not mine.

So the ONLY LOSS where the weather comes into conversation (hate this loss by the way):

6- SODERLING:

Aside from the obvious, hot form Soda- what did feel more bothered about that day?

The weather or other concerns?

He won a set and took it to a TB in another- enough to suggest he could play winning tennis v Soda on that day even.

When Rafa looks back on that loss, he MAY look at his knee issue and family situation as opposed to weather when looking outside the tennis he played in that match.

BOTTOM LINE:

NO ONE is ever unbeatable. Fact!

Even Rafa’s record support’s that theory on clay.

Yet this whole ‘the weather is what does it’ against him theory for me just doesn’t work.

His struggle today was due to the BH going missing and UEs being crazy amount- neither was due to the weather LOL.


Brando Says:

@Ben:

Like i said: MAY have affected the BH.

But yeah your right: maybe it was a bad day at the office and his game went for a set and a half.

Who knows.


Ben Pronin Says:

Why can’t we all just accept Nadal tanked that match against Verdasco?


skeezer Says:

Brando,

What is your TOP LINE?


skeezer Says:

^didn’t he tank every match he lost?


Brando Says:

@Ben:

Because the weather wouldn’t allow it! :-p


Ben Pronin Says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9oftCSFjbY&feature=player_detailpage#t=1091s

From 5-2 in the third, Nadal starts missing on purpose. It’s hilariously obvious. And he tries to pretend he’s upset. It’s like a comedy.


contador Says:

Watching the quarterfinals again: Dimitrov got a set!! That was brilliant tennis.

See, I still think the TX poll should have been: how many sets will Rafa lose this clay court season and I say 3. And that 3 is a high number. He should skip Madrid, for sure; Just speculating.

Dimitrov is more of a bruiser these days. But I can believe Nadal’s back was bothering him. Too many errors; too many bh’s into the net.

Dimitrov was standing too far back in general: Nadal was not hitting that deep by the end of the 2nd set.

Hey Brando darling, I guess you do not remember how hated my posts were back when I was cheering for Delpo to get a win over Federer? But I forgive you for confusing me with someone else, maybe.

Try more scrolling and less attacking. I will think about more scrolling and less trolling… But please know that when you get upset, that is when I am tempted to tease you more. Tis’ a sign of affection, no doubt, Brando. ;)

Let’s not quarrel any more, hey? I do not hate Rafa. But I do cheer against him most always… and I do treasure Soderling for beating Nadal in 2009 and cheered; and cheered again, l admit, for Soderling to beat Federer at US open 2009. I was just tired of Federer winning US Open. That is the terrible, disgusting tennis fan, I am!

I am NO fan of FEDALS since Wimbledon 2008. Imagine Djokovic beating Rafa as many times, and at crucial moments, as Rafa has beat Federer. You start to begin to hate their matches! But to say I hate Rafa is wrong…just so we are clear. Hate the “match-up”, not the man. :D


Brando Says:

@Skeezer:

TOP LINE?

Player’s are no threat to Rafa, just the weather!

Daniel, told me so! :-p


nadalista Says:

alison Says:

Nadalista Xisca is very beautiful very flawless skin indded,is there any truth to the rumour that she and Rafa are engaged i wonder?

——————————-

@alison, I too have heard those rumours but have not seen any confirmation yet. If there was any truth to that you can bet any of the gossip sites would have spilled the beans by now!

Anyway, they make a fine couple, I wish them the best. Xisca looked so cute sandwiched between Mama and Papa Nadal.


Brando Says:

@Contador:

Relax.

All is forgotten and moved on from.

You have nothing to explain to me at the least- it’s fine! :-)

Re the Nadal match:

Yep, i think your take is right. Like you said, when Rafa struggles to even clear the net with his BH then quite clearly a possible, and it’s only a thought, reason could be:

Maybe it’s his back that hampers him a bit, not the weather like some think.

Your right:

From Rafa’s side of the match, he was just making way, way too many error’s in that 2nd set.

15 in total in just one set on clay!

Unusual to say the least.

I think the reason why he was dropping it short was because he went into his shell because:

1- the BH was on a holiday
2- he was racking up so many UE’s that he must have thought best play safe here as going for winner’s when I am piling up the UE’s is not what the doctor would order here.

That’s what i thought.

Your take?


nadalista Says:

skeezer Says:

Congrats to Dimitrov, and exposing the obvious.

——————————-

Quite, the obvious fact that he (Dimitrov) cannot go the distance in a mere 3-setter.

Must try harder, plenty of room for improvement.

6/10 for effort.


Ben Pronin Says:

6/10 for effort????? What the hell kind of standards are you applying???


contador Says:

6 out of 10, as in diving? plus style points?

Have to give Grigor and 8.5/10 . A demerit and a half for lousy court positioning.


Daniel Says:

Brando,

No, I only list all his recent losses (2005 onwards, as if that’s recent). The ones I think were weather related was the ones I listed prior.


Alok Says:

@Brando: I just cannot watch him.

It’s all efficiency on every front, emphasis placed on using his defensive skills as the central advantage and it’s all monotonous.

He hardly goes for it anymore, unless he is completely behind in a match.

Brando: No wonder he struggles against lesser opponent recently: he pretty much hands the initiative to them saying ‘ go for it- as I won’t’ and it’s just a bore to watch for me.

Outside big name matches i just do not watch him anymore!

April 19th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

Very true, I find his matches to be ver boring, but tell that to his fans, who are ready to jump all over *some* of us who state otherwise.

The fact of the matter is simple. He cannot create his own pace, but thrives/feeds on the opponent’s pace and creating marathon rallies by wearing them out, drawing a UE, which happens more times than not. It’s like you’ve said, monotonus and for me, unwatchable.


BadaBing Says:

It’s like you’ve said, monotonus and for me, unwatchable.

alok-
Great, then we won’t be hearing your commentary on something you don’t watch.


skeezer Says:

“6/10 for effort?????”

Ben, its a Rafafanatic math language, unknown to the global math community.


Alok Says:

@BadaBing, unfortunately for me, when he plays one of my faves, I have very little choice than to watch his monotonous game, and it’s only then “maybe” I’ll comment. Other than that, I couldn’t care less when he plays someone like Nieminen, whose game I like, but not enough to sit through the torture.

BTW, your comment is a typical example of what I mean by *some* of us get attacked for our views. Case in point, how come you had no problem with Brando’s commen, which I agreed to? IMO, you guys seem afraid of Rafa fans, so you go after those of us who are not in the “gangs”, and, I get that loud and clear.


Wog boy Says:

^^ How many “faves” you have?
I will tell you, everybody who plays Nole, it is so obvious you hate the bloke, so don’t pretend it is his game you don’t like, it is him you don’t like!
We can live with that, keep posting your insightfull posts about Nole’s game and how bad it is, so bad thath he is #1 two years in a row and still is, won 5GS, 8 Masters, 1WTF … in that period with his bad game. I wonder how the good one looks then?


Alok Says:

I’ll reiterate, I don’t like his ugly style of play, his histrionics, and drama queen antics. I don’t have to hate him to dislikke his antics. Thjere are tons of tennis fans who feel the same way on blogs all around the world. so deal with it!

Do you hate Rafa, Fed, Serena and Li Na when you go after them? apparently, you hate, but not everyone has to *hate* to speak the truth of their feelings.

If your reading comprehension was good and you had some sense, you would see there are other posters who think Djokovic is monotonous/boring. Too bad others dont give a rat’s bollocks to your feelings. Guess what? I am not going to either.


Wog boy Says:

^^ “feelings”

Where did you get that one from, I didn’t mention my “feelings” nor the people like you can heart my “feelings”, I don’t have them for you and people like you.

Read carefully again my post, it is in English … not the best one but still English. It says: ” We can live with that, keep posting …etc etc.” No feelings involved, jus best wishes and my desire to read more and more insaghtful post about No1e, posted by you and other knowledgable tennis fans. Keep it up and keep watching (I know you do that) the best in the game, No1e. Hard to swallow, isn’t it;)


Wog boy Says:

Should say “People like you cannot hurt my feeling.” I do have feelings for everybody, postive ones, always.

Also, it is “hurt” and not “heart”, though I do hava heart for people like you too.


Alok Says:

haha, I don’t give a rat’s you know what for you either. I don’t need to be loved, and pretend for your kind to like me. can you get that?? I’m a lot more honest than some here, so don’t even go there.The problem with you is you can’t get it through your head that not everyone loves your idol.

If you can live with what I write, then why the need to shoot your mouth off? clearly, you can’t. Get this, when I watch a match of his I’ll let you know. I haven’t done so for this week, but I’ll be doing so tomorrow, not to see your god, but Fognini, who’s a show boat and not a drama queen.

Best game in town, now that’s one to laugh about. monotonus yes, boring yes, pong, pong, yessss, best Nooooooo. You heard about a guy called Federer. Nadal? and don’t forget past champs like Sampras/Agassi.

Come, talk to me when you’ve convinced the rafa fans that nole is the best. Till then nole is 3rd best. I know that’s hard for you to live with, but that is the fact.

While we are talking about the truth, there are a lot more tennis champs outside Serbia, if only blinkered people like you could see the world. Now go send out emails to your “nole gang”! crying for help.


Wog boy Says:

^^77 weeks at #1 and still going, we are talking present times not past or future times or overall results, get it?

Are you so desperate to bring Serbia in? You can do better than surely, or you cannot?


Wog boy Says:

” … better than that …” should say.


BadaBing Says:

Wogboy
She is not a real fan of anyone but is an anti-fan. The player she hates is Novak. She roots for anyone but him. That’s an anti-fan. We will see her comment on Novak’s matches many times in the future because she cannot resist. It’s not her faves that keep her posting here but her absolute hatred for Novak and I would say she has very intense negative feelings toward Jane too.

Alok
We will be hearing your anti-fan commentary all year because you are obsessed. As for Brando, he may not like Novak’s playing style but up until now I never got the feeling he actually hated the guy.


jane Says:

Wog boy, excellent re: weeks at number 1!! I just checked and with 3 more weeks Nole surpasses Hewitt for 8th all time on the list of weeks at number 1. If he can get to 100 weeks, now or in the future, it will put him with Agassi (101), Rafa (102) and Borg (109) – some pretty awesome and history making tennis players ;). He’s now tied with J-Mac at #11 for consecutive weeks at #1 (53). So our favourite player is doing alright with his playing style. Oh, and I think he can generate his own pace just fine. These shots are like lasers hit off defensive lobs and slices, some of them, on the excellent defence of his opponent. As we can see, the great players can play BOTH defence and offence with fortitude. Ajde Nole!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mLlIwmukh4


Alok Says:

Is there a player other than a serbian you ever spoke about or know about? The day you talk good about non-serbian players, I will give drama-queenovic a break.

Oh look, emails sent and mrs. cunning and another sidekick come here.

Point still stands – A rafa fan made the point that djokovic’s game is monotonous and you guys still yet to say a word on that. Having seen you guys, you will just lie down and take it.

So here’s my addition – Djokovic’s game is monotonous AND boring. Live with it mrs.cunning and her gang.


Alok Says:

LOL! you guys have to remind Djokovic’s numbers. Federer and Rafa’s numbers – every tennis fan knows!

Badabing, I am a she like your momma is a he. Get your facts right bimbo!


Alok Says:

Oh look, mrs. cunning has to take a dig at Federer, now.

Look at this and weep : This is how tennis is played.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6myN9WV-brI


BadaBing Says:

Sorry Alok I am a fan of Novak alone. I do not speak ill of any other players. The diference is I am a fan and you are an anti-fan.
There is no ‘gang’ here, just fans/friends of Novak. Too bad you don’t have any friends. Here’s my addition: You sound like a jealous borderline personality and you will have to live with that.


Alok Says:

Here’s rafa whipping drama-queenovic’s behind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auzG1ENI7MU

Later, peeps! Will be back with more, later.

WB: shove some plum brandy into that dirty mouth of yours and get to bed grandpa!


Alok Says:

Badabing : you have no clue. Stop sucking up to Wogboy and mrs.cunning just because they are nole fans.

I am not pathetic enough to look for friends online. I have a real life unlike your nole gang. I know how the gang works.


Alok Says:

Congrats to Fed! back to the no.2 ranking!


jane Says:

Who took a dig at Federer? I pointed out he has excellent defence, which is what the commentators said.

BadaBing, precisely.


Alok Says:

I know the reason you selected that video Jane! nole saving matchpoints against Federer – you think you are so smart!

I am not thick like your croonies. I know what you are upto here.

You always hated Federer. remember 2005. Ask grendel, Tejuz and other Fed fans from then.

One more thing, grow a spine and speak for yourself, instead of hiding behind your gang!


jane Says:

I posted it because you said he “cannot generate his own pace,” and that video proves he can. He had Roger on the run in those points, especially in the first one, and he generated winners off a backhand chip return, slice and defensive lob. It’s not a “dig” against Fed.

And my goodness how many times do you have to bring up that same stuff about how I used to argue with Fed fans here. Big deal! Everyone’s read it a million times. It’s not a secret. People change. You could move on too you know. It’s actually healthy.


Ngentot Says:

@Alok,

Give it a rest. Djokovic is not going anywhere whether you like it or not. You complain too much, it makes you sound like a maniac.


jane Says:

p.s. I don’t know what a “croonie” is, nor do I have a gang. Although I do have online friends. And in fact, having online friends doesn’t preclude having RL friends so I am not sure why you say that.


BadaBing Says:

Alok
Were you around in 2005?


Alok Says:

Jane,

You must stop hallucinating. This is the 1st time I mentioned your history about hating Fed. Please show me posts where I said this before?

Dont confuse me with other Fed fans who gave you the title of “cunning”.

What do you know? another gang member to support his cohorts.

Look at the blogs for last 2 weeks and you will see the maniacs are the nole fans trying to sell us his award-winning drama queen antics.

I am done with you low-lifes. Preach to me after you are done educating Brando. If you can’t get Brando to say nole is not monotonous, dont come sulking to me!


Alok Says:

Posting again for Federer fans:

Federer back to no.2 ranking @ 31+ Allez Fed!


Wog boy Says:

Just for the record, all those who were are reading my posts in the last couple of years, knows me and whether I spoke good about any other players but Serbian ones, no need to explain any further. I do not judge the people by the country of their birth or their religion but by the way they behave, that is how I was brought up, I said few times on this blog that I am not Serbian by birth but by heart, my father wasn’t Serbian but we were born in Serbia and raised to be loyal to the country that was good to us. All of these informations makes your comment irrelevant but also exposes you as a hater of not just a player but of his country and people.
BTW, best way to find out if you are male or female is to take your cloths off and stand infront of the mirror, you do have one, don’t you? There is one little thing missing that will tell you that you are a woman, but maybe one part of you want to be a man, that could be serious problem so better go and see specialist.
I am out of here;)


goat galz Says:

Von,
cut the crap. You are ruining this blogsite. Alok/Von you are no Fed fan and we all know it. Go offline for pete’s sake and do something constructive, like horizontal jogging.
ta ta dolls


BadaBing Says:

Jane,
Do you recall someone named Alok here in 2005?


courbon Says:

@ Wog Boy: I’v been reading posts for last week and they are full of insults, hated nad primitivism…thats why can,t be bothered to post at the moment.Even posters that I like start to write agresive and dumb posts.At the moment, its bad in tennis-x land….


jane Says:

No BadaBing, I don’t. I do know the other names: grendel still comes back from time to time, not lately though.

courbon, yes, it has been rather testy, unfortunately. :/


Daniel Says:

Damm,

I am here from a long time and unless you guys shift names I can’t hardly count the same posters from 2005 anymore. From my days, the ones who kept their nicks: jane, grendel and MMT. Maybe I am too dumb to recognize the others:)

Wow, I didn’t herd / read the name Von in a long, long time. She vanished from this site in 2011 I think. When Roddick beat Fed last year I remember her, as an avid Roddick fan.


Daniel Says:

I didn’t recognize the name Alok either.


Daniel Says:

Damm,

I am here from a long time and unless you guys shift names I can’t hardly count the same posters from 2005 anymore. From my days, the ones who kept their nicks: jane, grendel and MMT. Maybe I am too dumb to recognize the others:)

Wow, I didn’t herd / read the name Von in a long, long time. She vanished from this site in 2011 I think. When Roddick beat Fed last year I remember her, as an avid Roddick fan.

I don’t recognize the name Alok either.


jane Says:

Daniel, yeah, we’re old timers. “The best of times, the worst of times…” yada yada, but both movie lovers.

Speaking of which, have you seen “Stoker”? It’s strange, to say the least, but the cinematography is great!


BadaBing Says:

Alok just admitted she posted here in 2005 but no one remembers her by that name. It’s obvious she used a different name back then but won’t cop to it. Is she this Von person?


Daniel Says:

Not yet, Jane. Hasn’t open in Brazil and I am old school: films are made to be watch in movie theaters, so I don’t download. Only series:)

Love Nicole, have a thing for head heads.

But I saw the danish movie The Hunt, awesome. Heavy theme, the ones you don’t leave at peace. The best movie I saw this year!


jane Says:

^ Vinterberg? Daniel, I totally want to see that because I loved Festen.


Wog boy Says:

courbon,

Not to worry brate, “a pond too small for so many crocodiles”;) you know the one?
When are you going to finish your video?


the DA Says:

Another week, another hissy fit/meltdown.


Alok Says:

Jane :

You don’t remember Tejuz and other fans who used to pull you up for your Federer hatred? I can assure you we fed fans can see why you posted that USO semi-final video of djokovic saving match-points against Federer. Good for you that there are not as many fed fans as before who could put you in your place and see your two-faced acts. I will give you another hint : One of your djokovic fans lost a bet to me for 100 euros. LOL! a guy as blinded as you by djokovic fanism.

Grandma Galz : You seem to have been tormented too much by Von. LOL! Don’t forget to take your meds! Let’s face it Djokovic is no Mr. Charisma! There are a lot of people who loathe him. Go check tennis trash if you dont believe me. There are a lot of people [including some rafa fans from here] who are revelling in the Drama-queen episodes. I know you are looking for guys to prance with, but trust me you are too old for me! Send me a picture and I will see if some old bozo is intrerested in road trash like you.

Daniel: I have been here since 2004 under a few monikers. Long Live The King was my last screenname. I remember Von too. I had my differences with her because of the Fed-Roddick rivalry, but I became Andy fan with the “sars” joke he cracked on nole! These nole fans get their panties in a twist whenever anyone criticises novak and cry Von! Von! Roddick and Von really stuck it to these guys with that hilarious jibe. I remember Fed commenting on Djokovic too that he was like a rabbit running for the injury time outs [after a Davis cup match]. I thought nole grew up and stopped being the drama queen, but he has restarted his moronic act with this ankle drama!


Alok Says:

Jane :

You don’t remember Tejuz and other fans who used to pull you up for your Federer hatred? I can assure you we fed fans can see why you posted that USO semi-final video of djokovic saving match-points against Federer. Good for you that there are not as many fed fans as before who could put you in your place and see your two-faced acts. I will give you another hint : One of your djokovic fans lost a bet to me for 100 euros. LOL! a guy as blinded as you by djokovic fanism.


Alok Says:

Grandma Galz : You seem to have been tormented too much by Von. LOL! Don’t forget to take your meds! Let’s face it Djokovic is no Mr. Charisma! There are a lot of people who loathe him. Go check tennis trash if you dont believe me. There are a lot of people [including some rafa fans from here] who are revelling in the Drama-queen episodes. I know you are looking for guys to prance with, but trust me you are too old for me! Send me a picture and I will see if some old bozo is intrerested in road trash like you.


Alok Says:

Daniel: I have been here since 2004 under a few monikers. Long Live The King was my last screenname. I remember Von too. I had my differences with her because of the Fed-Roddick rivalry, but I became Andy fan with the “sars” joke he cracked on nole! These nole fans get their pants in a twist whenever anyone criticises novak and cry Von! Von! Roddick and Von really stuck it to these guys with that hilarious jibe. I remember Fed commenting on Djokovic too that he was like a rabbit running for the injury time outs [after a Davis cup match]. I thought nole grew up and stopped being the drama queen, but he has restarted his stupid act with this ankle drama!


Ngentot Says:

@Alok,

You, poor soul. You really need to get a life. Your hatred on Novak will get you nowhere. You must have been feeling deeply hurt and annoyed by the fact that (the not so good) Djokovic has been the best in tennis for the last two years.

“Let’s face it, Djokovic is no Mr. Charisma!” Really? Just because you say so or feel so, doesn’t mean that other people will agree with you.


Giles Says:

There was all that talk yesterday about a bone being dislocated in Joker’s ankle. If that is the case how is he still playing? Anyone know?


the DA Says:

How appropriate, a recommendation to visit a site called “tennis trash”. All she does is talk trash. Oh, and has become the GOAT of grudges.

#moveon
#lifeistooshort


Alok Says:

Giles:

Drama queen Season 2 episode 10. That is all you need to know.

Hey DumAzz: Jumping to the nole bandwagon because murray pooped out? LOL! I understand it must be tough being a murray fan. Hang in there. He will win one more slam before his career ends, I think.


the DA Says:

Yes, it was tough to be a Murray fan this year. The AO SF and Miami final were especially so so tough.

@ wog boy – you won’t get a rational response where the angry ewok is concerned. If you think she has anger management issues now imagine the rage we’ll have to endure when the love of her life retires?

#shudders


Giles Says:

Alok. Lol


Margot Says:

@ the DA
Now what would Andy fans do if he showed ANY consistency……? Admit “serenity” just wouldn’t suit us and certainty” is just plain boring….I wish….;)
Alok to Wog Boy 10.09 “your kind.” What the heck is that supposed to mean?


Giles Says:

^^^ It is the same as skeezer/geezer saying “you types”. Lol


alison Says:

Oh dear look not everybody does like Nole,Rafa,Andy,Roger,and i dont suppose its very nice if there are any fans of Berdych for him to be called Berd brain or Berdsh*t all the time(i know im guilty of that too),and lets face it some fans will always get along with some people more than others,some fans will never get along(period),just like some fans are missed if they dont post for a while,and always welcomed back with open arms,but others go and im sure people think good riddance,but we are all entitled to an opinion,and no poster should feel bullied away by another,if Alok doesnt care for Novak or his game fair enough his choice,its not like Contador cares for Rafa or his game either fair enough her choice,but niether should feel like its a crime because they dont,but i think we should stop name calling of the players and each other,its only a game after all,not a war.


TableTennisWeBlog.com Says:

Yeah, the decision of playing there was risky by Novak. Although he said he feels fine and thinks he’s able to compete, so …. I personally think Nadal will the the title no matter what, as always ;) Nothing and Nobody can stop him.


Giles Says:

alison. Don’t waste your time preaching. Nobody is going to take a blind bit of notice or pay heed to your advice.
I know you mean well but …


Alex Says:

^^^

I took notice, good post and very true.

Of course Giles wont take notice, you love posting your dumb little pics, constantly insulting players.

By all means continue, don’t let honest posts get in your way.


Giles Says:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIRek4rCMAAoVRT.png
BRANDO & ALISON
Neil Harman of the Times is doing a stint on Rafa in tomorrow’s edition of the Times. Thought you might be interested.
10 years of Rafael Nadal Power.


Giles Says:

Alex. Good to see you have reformed or have you? A leopard never changes it’s spots! #CarryOnDoingWhatYouDoBest


alison Says:

Giles i will buy the times from my local newsagents tomorrow then,better still get my friend Simon to save a copy for me.


Alex Says:

^^

Reformed, perhaps.

You seem to be much more civil these days, maybe you’ve transformed?


Alex Says:

#CarryOnDoingWhatYouDoBest

What Men and a Woman do in the bedroom is Private, no?

I mean really Giles.


Daniel Says:

Alok,

Remember you now:) Tejuz is another one who vanquish here.

Yes Jane,

Love the Dogma guys, even Von Trier:)


Alok Says:

Margot/Deuce:

Your kind = people of WB or Jane’s ilk who are 2-faced and will not allow anyone to so much as have a different opinion from their own about Djokovic. Look at their disgusting attempt to gang up on me, when I merely echoed another poster’s thought.

Alison and Alex: Thanks for seeing things for what they are.

Giles: So what’s on the next episode of Drama queen Season 2? I am guessing the finale will be on Sunday. Either a spectacular retirement or tearing-up of the shirt and giving us a trailor for “Man of Steel with balls also made of steel”. LOL!


Alok Says:

LOL @ Alex 6:44! not necessarily my friend! hear about something called a $ex tape? ;)

Daniel : Always great to see your posts. Looks like other fans like Dave/madmax/Grendel are taking time off, like Fed!


Giles Says:

@Alok. Next episode? Numerous MTO’s if he is losing, Maybe even a bench or two smashed on the way! Lol


Daniel Says:

Yes Alok,

Most Fed fans are not here as they used to, modt folks already know the inevitable:)

I will hang on, still think his lucky final Slam will come, hope for another Wimby.


Alok Says:

Giles: That sounds very familiar! I CANNOT imagine a courageous braveheart warrior like nole doing it! LOL! ;)

Daniel: final SLAM? I am thinking of final SLAMS buddy. I remember yourself/Dave predicting end of 2011 about Federer having a shot at no.1 around wimbledon 2012 and lo and behold! our man did it!

Let’s hope for atleast a couple more slams for Mr. peRFect!


Ben Pronin Says:

Wow, Von, just wow.

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