Jim Courier: Rafael Nadal Won’t Have As Long Of A Career As Roger Federer
by Tom Gainey | December 20th, 2014, 10:14 am

Speaking during a press conference last week promoting his champions tour, former No. 1 Jim Courier compared the career arcs of Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal.

“The amount of energy that he expends per shot, if you could compare that to Rafa, I think would be substantially less,” Courier said of Federer. “I think we can all see that and hear that. I think because he’s not exerting himself as much, because it looks like he’s in a ballet performance out there instead of sort of combat the way Rafa looks like, I think it’s easy to guess that Rafa is not going to have the type of longevity that Roger is enjoying right now, as much as we’d all love to see Rafa have that length of career.

“It’s just a credit to Roger’s grace and athleticism and coaches who taught him to play that way when he was a kid that he’s able to do that, and we’re all better for it as tennis fans, to be able to watch him do what he’s doing, trying to defeat Father Time, which is undefeated as far as I can see. Roger is putting up a pretty good fight so far.”

Roddick, who is also part of the tour, added his thoughts on Federer. “If he’s healthy, he’s going to continue to do what he’s doing. He has the benefit of being so athletic and graceful that he doesn’t have maybe the wear and tear that Jim and I would have basically because we’re not as talented and we can’t do the things as effortlessly as Roger can do.

“But at a certain point you run out of superlatives to describe how great he’s been over such a long period of time. From hearing him talk, he just really enjoys it still. It doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of stress involved. If he wins, it’s awesome. If he loses, on to the next one. That’s a pretty great place to be. He’s not trying to prove anything to anyone anymore. He hasn’t had to do that for a long time. It’s certainly been fun to watch and he deserves all the adoration that he’s getting.”

The 33-year-old Federer turned pro in 1998. Nadal, now 28, turned pro in 2001.

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85 Comments for Jim Courier: Rafael Nadal Won’t Have As Long Of A Career As Roger Federer

skeezer Says:

“If he wins, it’s awesome. If he loses, on to the next one. That’s a pretty great place to be. He’s not trying to prove anything to anyone anymore. ”
Play on Fed.

Hippy Chick Says:

While i agree that Roger has a game thats easier on the eye,and also on the body,and i say that even as a Rafa fan,but it always comes across as been rather smug when people feel the need to belittle one in favour of the other,and then keep on packing Rafa off to the retirement home,Rafa is playing now and i want to enjoy watching him while hes playing….

Hippy Chick Says:

Skeezer yeah,and let Rafa play on too for goodness sake….

Giles Says:

“Play on Fed” says one fedfanatic. 2013 comes to mind when these same fanatics were calling for Fed’s retirement.

brando GOAT poster Says:

@Giles: spot on. Fans and pundits are fickle by And large: they kiss up to the flavour of the month, engage in ridiculous hyperbole and as soon as a bit of crisis arrives they change their tune dramatically. It’s pretty pathetic.

brando GOAT poster Says:

As for comparing Nadal and Federer on this front inherently it’s a alley only the idiotic venture to since Nadal is 28: we don’t know how he’ll at age 33. All we have is the past in which Nadal stacked up slams year after year and the present: where many favour him over Federer as a slam contender. Period.

jane Says:

it’s difficult to tell with nadal. he hasn’t been playing full seasons, and ironically or not, that could end up extending his career. i think the last time he played a full season was 2011 (?) so for the last 3 years already he’s been playing considerably less. even with injuries, on a truncated schedule, he could play well into his 30s.

it does seem true what roddick (i think?) says, that fed is enjoying himself at this point; however, he’s obviously still highly motivated and competitive, or he wouldn’t’ve hired edberg, changed his racquet and so on. he’ll play until at least 2016 by his own account, and maybe longer, like connors. i don’t know if i can see him still playing if he drops out of the top 10, though.

elina Says:

I don’t think that Nadal necessarily wants or perhaps a better word needs to play as long as Roger.

I don’t think he craves the adulation to be quite honest about it.

JoAnn West Says:

I really love watching the trick shots. My two favorite players are Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer I am really looking forward to the new season. Wish I could see them in person. I would have to win the lottery. If they play at 2am or what ever time I get up and watch them. What a pleasure Tennis is. JoAnn

Hippy Chick Says:

Jeez Rafas said he loves playing tennis and has no intention of calling it a day anytime soon,so why does everybody believe Federer when he says he enjoys the game but not Nadal?….

JoAnn West Says:

I don’t hate any one???/ Where did that come from????????? Him who?

Okiegal Says:

Is Rafa chasing 17 plus?…….yep! Is Roger chasing
17 plus?………yep! Rest my case…..They will both play until the cows come home…..not sure how that Oklahoma saying came into being, but thought it was appropriate for Fed…..I believe Rafa will play as long as he’s physically able to and Fed, with his astounding athletic genes……well, there’s no telling how long his career will last! I’m just going to enjoy it however long it is. Love to watch them play and Novak too!! Great tennis when these three square off against one another…..along with Andy and Stan at times. Those two have entertained us also. Who knows what future has in store for us!

Thangs Says:

When federer floats on his legs and hit a forehand deep to the corner, the opponent must appreciate and say what a great shot.. This is perfect tennis.

It’s Nadal’s fault to chase down that ball and hit back on the court to win the point…It’s not tennis..it was not taught to anyone..How stupid Nadal is to reach that ball and win the point…AND adding toll on his body/knees..


Okiegal Says:

@Thangs^^^^ LOL


brando GOAT poster Says:

@thangs: lmfao awesome post.

Okiegal Says:

Rafa/Roger fans have always had their problems with each other…..fussing back and forth, even though their favs had a good rapport between themselves. However, I did notice at the Aussie Open this year, Roger got very testy with Rafa, which really shocked me. But, before that there was a little negative publicity surrounding the tennis counsel thing, now that I think about it. Each having different views on certain issues. I’ve come to the conclusion, they broke up, which should make both fan bases
Very happy!! Lol

Giles Says:

@Thangs. Nice one! Lol

Ravi S Says:

Agreed.Rafa at 29 has already been unable to compete full season for last 3-4 years.given the fact he is still 5 years younger than Roger it’s hard to imagine what would be his fitness level at 33. On the other hand Roger is moving effortlessly and don’t know for how long he will play.

Okiegal Says:

Giles is right with the 11:34 post. I remember clearly Fed fans wanting him to retire. I mentioned that a few months ago and was told maybe one or two fans might have voiced an opinion about wanting him to retire……but my memory of it was more than two were begging for retirement. Did he drop down to
#7 or 8 in the rankings?? Well, he persevered
and worked his way back up……so there ya’ go…
he’s not done yet and so very healthy to boot. As I said above, there is no telling how long he’ll play!! Bring on the Aussie Open……so ready!

Matador Says:

But longer than you, Courier.
After 22, he was done this dude.

skeezer Says:

“2013 comes to mind when these same fanatics were calling for Fed’s retirement.”
Yes, true, so? This argument is childish.
Looking back on 2013 he was not moving well, and some fans callimg for him to retire was validated in his performances. It is now known he suffered for a good part of the year with the Back, which will for sure hamper movement. Who knew that then?
The sweet thing about this whole topic is Fed has proven EVERYONE wrong, even some of his die hard fans. There is great celebration in that with the Maestro and his fans.
Play on Fed. Enjoy it as long as you can. It’s all gravy.

Brando GOAT Poster Says:

‘It’s all gravy.’:

Sure is pal………………..until he plays Rafa and it’s all tears!


skeezer Says:

He doesn’t need to play Rafa to get all these records, he needs to win Titles and Slams, which he has done better than ANYONE.
Btw, not your pal, buddy.

Brando GOAT Poster Says:

‘He doesn’t need to play Rafa to get all these records, he needs to win Titles and Slams, which he has done better than ANYONE’:

Sure, his records tells us better than anything else:

He’s ace at beating chumps in the final. Give him a meager opponent: he’ll feast upon them like a lion.

But not so much when he faces the top dogs eh….. buddy?

And it certainly ain’t gravy when he faces the biggest possible opponent for the so called GOAT in his era, Rafael Nadal is it champ?

I think we both know it’s far from gravy.

Especially far from it when the no.2 biggest opponent he faces (Novak) he’s either withdrawing, fluffing MP’S (USO 10,11′) and throwing hissy fit’s post match (see those pressers in USO 10,11).

That’s our Fed in a nutshell isn’t:

A weak opponent bully who’s strong at racking up the titles against meek opponents most former legends of the past would crush themselves (check his farcical tough opponents in the majority of his slam wins) but when he faces names history will remember, acclaim as great then:

He’s a bit of a wimp isn’t he?

Quick to look like a victim, throw a shady, snippy comment post match but during the match- especially against a certain Spaniard- he’s all head down, getting his butt handed to him on a platter.

LOL: those gravy days are long gone, buddy. The magical era of 2003-2007 when his biggest foe was a merely 21 year old, essentially clay specialist opponent far from fully developing his game are long gone buddy.

A mouse can only enjoy the comfort of the living room before the superior predator appears.

And as soon as Nadal appeared Fed was quick to run like a mouse back into his hole lol! Consider this buddy:

This decade: 2 slams out of 20 attempts.

Since Wimbledon 2008, aged 26: must avoid Nadal at all cost in order to stand a chance of winning a slam. Well known, accepted fact.


The stuff of a GOAT ………….. or a weasel like champion whose tennis is abject infront of the absolute best that he could possibly face.


Enjoy his records champ since we all know about his reality against the absolute best it’s a:

This is killing me affair!


‘Btw, not your pal, buddy.’:

The use of ‘pal’ was sarcasm ridden…. pal. Next time at the home when it’s a library break pick up the dictionary and look up the meaning of the word and you’ll experience a ‘aha’ moment.

It will make a nice change than to continuously watching re-runs of RF facing mighty opponents such as Oliver Rochus in the heady, challenging days of the 200-2007 era, lol!

skeezer Says:

“Sure, his records tells us better than anything else:”
Glad u agree. As for the rest of the usual bloated para graphical talk, once I saw the usual long winded typing and the usual LMAO thrown in,.i skipped it.
Bottom line, glad u agree.

JasonM Says:

It’s not just the age, but the mileage. The wear and tear on Rafa’s body at 28 is probably double what it was on Federer at the same age. And winning SLAMs after 28 is still quite rare. Only 15 of the last 121 SLAMs have been won by someone over the age of 28. Federer only managed 2 himself.

I still think Rafa has a shot at another French open or two provided he saves his body for the occasion. Possibly another hardcourt SLAM, but reality is he’s only won 1 SLAM off clay in the last 4 years and the competition on hardcourts is far more difficult then it was in 2013. So I would put the odds @ 20%. Grass is a write-off obviously.

Wouldn’t surprise me to see Nadal retire before Federer. The problem with Nadal is his game relies on speed and endurance far more than any player I can think of in the last 20 years. So when the fitness aspect inevitably leaves him, there won’t be a whole lot left to his game to trouble the top players and the fall could be precipitous. Whereas as Federer has many more “tools” in his arsenal to make up for declining speed,endurance and fitness. Rafa might fall out of the top 5 if he doesn’t defend his AO final and FO title. And if he falls out of the top 10 by age 30, I don’t see him sticking around very

amadeus Says:

Brando GOAT Poster = BIG Drama.

madmax Says:


You said it!

Brando and Giles, WHO were the federer fans who said he should retire? You need to name them here before you burst with pleasure.

Courier has no idea whether rafa will continue to play.

Rafa hasn’t played a full season for quite a while, but when he does play, he plays to win and invariably does win. Great he is training hard, it will be good to see him play the Australian again and we will all, as fans, continue to discuss the same old topics over and over.

I just wish that he didnt have so much time off. Reason why is that when he comes back, there are so many question marks about what he has been doing and what this stem cell therapy is all about. I do not think that this should be allowed. I feel it does give him then an unfair advantage. If all players were having this done on every part or some part of their body in order for it to repair and to heal, well, that has to give them an advantage.

I’ll wait for the remarks now from Brando and Giles, but first, please answer my question. I dont think I have read that Skeezer said he should retire? Only person way back was Gannu, but she gets over excited and she admits that. That’s one person. Singular. Who else?

Ronn Says:

Hahahaha…Brando, you are spot on. Federer only looks great when he plays wimps, but when he plays Djokovic and Rafa all of the sudden he doesn’t look so good, lol…

Hippy Chick Says:

So much for the season of goodwill,whenever the subject of Fedal arises we end up having a foodfight between posters,look both are amazing in spite of their shortcomings,and both will be remembered long after they are gone,so cant we just enjoy both as long as they are here,without p*ssing on them and their achievments?i still thing that the tennis-x forum needs to close for a break too along with the tennis season,peoples only pleasure seems to be making each others lives a misery,when surely theres enough of that in the real world….

Allyson Says:

I have been a fan of both Federer and Nadal but over the last years, but over the last years I’ve come to appreciate Roger’s abilities much more.
Nadal’s warrior game was thrilling for awhile but I’ve grown tired of watching him. Everyone thinks Roger is arrogant but I view Nadal as the arrogant one, which is evident by his antics and his gamemanship on court.

Hippy Chick Says:

Off topic but if anyones interested Stan and Roger are playing an exho for Africa?….

Hippy Chick Says:

Arogance is IMO a matter of ones own perception,but i dont think it has anything to do with the issue here?….

Humble Rafa Says:

I am going for something very special at the Australian open. Most people don’t even know what it is because they are in hero worship mode.

Alexandra Says:

If we believed all those so-called experts Rafa should have retired at 25 already. But he’s still there. We don’t know how long he will have the desire the play. But I’m really sick of all those people who claim to know the future.
And Rafa has never been the arrogant one. You must have mixed them up.

Mr. Larvey Says:

Lovely, yet another argument between Fed and Rafa fans. Lots of new arguments and points that haven’t been covered earlier. And lots of people changing their opinnions due to great arguments by the other side… or not!

I really need to not read this blog before Australiaan open.

Hippy Chick Says:

Alexandra i think arrogance is a matter of opinion,but aside from that i completely agree with what your saying,im sick to death of the smug journalists and ex players whom take great delight in predicting the end of Rafas career everytime hes had an injury,he wont be at the same level when hes 33,he wont be playing when hes 33 etc,who cares?the only thing thats relavent is hes playing now,and hes enjoying it,whether or not hes playing when hes 33 remains to be seen,so lets just enjoying whats happening now….

madmax Says:

Ronn Says:
Hahahaha…Brando, you are spot on. Federer only looks great when he plays wimps, but when he plays Djokovic and Rafa all of the sudden he doesn’t look so good, lol…

December 21st, 2014 at 8:31 am

Ronn, a very uneducated post. Federer looks great because he IS great. You heard it here first. Brush up on your tennis knowledge, ask Santa for a tablet, Ronn.

Hippy, this is the place for the spats and you know that. Where would we all be without a spat every now and again?

We should all get ready for Australia. Can’t believe it has come around so quickly. Just think. It was Stan’s year in 2014, January. Will it be repeated?

Hippy Chick Says:

Madmax fair enough,but i still stand by my post above yours….

skeezer Says:

Notice “spot on”? Who else routinely says that? ;)

SG1 Says:

Would love to see Stan back up his win at the AO with another one…but it just doesn’t seem likely…does it?

Ennovy Says:

I am positively a Rafael Nadal fan! I think Rafa is an incredible young man and athlete. I pray that Rafa’s career will last until it’s time for him to walk away from tennis! He will know when the time comes before anyone else knows. Having said, I think Jim Courier should mind his own business.

Wog Boy Says:

Jim Courier is commentator, a very good one. He is entitled to say what he thinks if he is asked and even if he is not asked. He is paid for doing that and it is his opinion. I don’t see him saying anything new that majority of tennis fans, even Rafa fans don’t say, Rafa tennis style is taxing on body so, very likely his playing time will be shorter than Roger’s, what is here to disagree with or disrespectfull towards Rafa. Absolutely nothing, looking forward for AO and Jim Courier commentating it for Channel 7.

Yolita Says:

People keep talking about Rafa not having a long career, they have been saying that for years, even when he was very young.
However, it is a fact that Rafa has won a grand slam for ten consecutive years, something nobody else has done. It is a mind-boggling record. Frankly, I don’t see that record being broken ever.
To win a grand slam title every single year for 10 years already speaks of a very long career at a very high level.
What do people want? A grand slam title for 15 consecutive years? Rafa may just do that! LOL

skeezer Says:

Wog boy,
Well said, and Courier is not just a commentator, but a ATP player and Slam winner, so were suppose to validate fans opinions that carries more weight? Not happening. LMAO.

Yes Rafa has won that one Tournament that many times in a row, an amazing feat. Tennis is more than that however, and this is what separates the discussion of all time greats.

Wog Boy Says:

Yolita, I hope not, I hope Nole interupts him (his run) in one of coming years…at least at FO:)

Wog Boy Says:

skeezer, I have been listening Jim Courier for years and I found him very knowledgable, objective, calm and not eaisily carried away by what is happening on the court. He had so many times second commentator in studio or guest, who was openly favoring one player and Jim was always complementing the other one, to even the things out.
I remember when he had Pat Rafter in studio during Nole/Roger match few years ago ((7:6, 7:5, 6:4), Rafter was almost crying and begging Roger to change his game plan and not to be stuborn or Nole will beat him, what Nole did, Jim had to calm him down by complementing Nole’s game.

jane Says:

wog boy, i too have always found courier to be relatively “neutral” in how he addresses the players in his commentary.

yolita, i agree: that’s definitely an amazing record of rafa’s that’ll stand the test of time. what’s remarkable about it is how it’s mainly because rafa has “owned” one slam that whole time. if anyone were able to beat him on clay, then he may not hold that record. but roland garros has been “his” for a decade. who can beat him there? soderling did once. that’s it. some have come awfully close: nole in 2013 and isner took him to 5 once as well. but that’s it right? only 2 five set matches ever at roland garros. craziness!

Okiegal Says:

@Mr. Larvey…….In my post on 12/20/14 @ 4:15 I brought up the fact about Rafa and Roger fans fussing back and forth……and boom baby, they’re at it again!! LOL. I was “spot on” with that
post!!! Lol

Giles Says:

Geez! Now suddenly some people on here are rating Jim Courier and his opinion. Wonder who gave him a backhander to say what he did. He should concentrate on his DC captaincy which will probably terminate very soon if he doesn’t produce results. Apart from all that he is quite a likeable chap.

Hippy Chick Says:

Wogboy fair enough,and to be honest i have nothing against courier either,but i stand by my post above Madmaxs in that i find it tiresome to here commontators packing my favorite of to retirement all the time,so he plays a game thats more demanding on the body,and not so easy on the eye,and maybe he wont be playing or at the same level when hes 33 etc?so what cant we just enjoy whats happening now?why cant he just be given credit for what he has achieved rather than pulled to bits all the time for his shortcomings,if this were Novak you would be here defending him also,so why shouldnt Rafa fans do the same?trying to reason is futile,i think i might stay away till the AO,Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to yourself and your familiy ;-))….

Hippy Chick Says:

Skeezer Rafa is also an all time great,oh i give up,whats the point?….

Giles Says:

The truth of the matter is that most of these commies parrot each other. It’s like when Rafa was on his long lay-off in 2012 each and everyone of these parrots said he would never be the same player again, it would take him over a year to get his game back, blah, blah, blah. Now these same people have lots of egg on their faces. Unfortunately they will never learn from experience!! Feel so sad for them!!

Wog Boy Says:

HC, I think you missed the point, nobody was packing Rafa of to early retirement, but that is not important now, it is jolly season, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too:)

Tennis Island Says:

That’s for sure. Other style of play and injuries from the early stages won’t Rafa to play for a really long time

Hippy Chick Says:

Wogboy tis the season to be jolly,but theres not much evidence of that here unfortunatly, anyway personally i dont celebrate christmas,its yule in the pagan world which is similar,but celebrated between the 21st and the 23rd December,all to do with the winter solstice,theres also something called Wassailing which is actually the twelve days of christmas where the apples start to yeild their crops….

Okiegal Says:

@Chick…..At Christmas time my sister-in-law makes a drink called hot Wassal, made with Apple cider. She simmers it with cinnamon sticks. It is delicious sitting around the fireplace during the yuletide season!

Okiegal Says:

@Chick 5:20

I agree with your post. Nobody knows how long Rafa will play and I too wish people would give it a rest. Sure he has a style of play that is grueling on his body. I think he can probably play longer than people may think. He can can work his schedule to be more favorable to his age and his body health…….which I think he will do. So pipe down naysayers……let’s see what unfolds. I hope Rafa, Roger, Andy and Novak entertain us for a long time!!

Okiegal Says:

To all fan bases on TX forum……MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A PROSPEROUS 2015!! May all of your slams come true!! Happy Holidays from Oklahoma!! Okie

elina Says:

You guys! I have to agree with skeezer and Wogboy about Jim Courier as a former player being one of the most objective analysts in tennis.

This is what he said during the 2013 WTF before Nadal closed the slam gap to three…

“It’s a fun dinner conversation,” said Jim Courier, a former No.1, of the Federer-Nadal debate. “I’m not sure you can convincingly say that one guy is the greatest right now.”

Spot on as always Jimbo as there is still legacy building in progress for both of these living legends!

Brando speaks the silent truth about Federer: champ v minnows, chump v Rafa Says:


A couple of posts from myself and look at the butt hurt, I mean fan mail it generates!

Aw guys, so much love for myself:

I feel so unworthy of it, but like Rafa when he’s finished whupping RF for the nth time and extends more effort trying not to laugh his butt off post match than in the match, I humbly accept your love my dear fedtards.


I love you too.

As a parting shot for a while I have changed my username to a new moniker that I am sure will see you yelping with a orgasmic delight at such a wondrous name.

I would go for something sensational, but it’s the season of goodwill so I humbly go for something rather honest, sincere and modest.

Your biggest friend and shy recipient of your lavish affection


p p p

Hippy Chick Says:

Okie thanks for the feedback,although i feel it will all fall on deaf ears,so i will just sit back enjoy the tennis,and see what unfolds.
About Wassail well im glad to here you partaking in such sn old custom, and nice to here that some of the old traditions are still kept alive ;-))….

tom Says:

People still don’t get it, NADAL won each and every of his slam with the highest level of competetion. FEDERER is nothing more than a mike tyson of boxing a bully of a whimpy players nothing more than that. If you still think federer is better player than nadal than you will never change.

kjb Says:


Fed is #2 in the world and he is ancient. What does that say about the level of competetion you speak of. Federer won more matches than anyone this year. Think about it. Federer made 11 finals this year. There are a handful of guys in the top 10 who haven’t even made 11 finals in their whole career. We are in the midst of a weak era.

elina Says:

Well Courier is not just a commentator, but an ATP player and Slam winner, so we’re suppose to validate fans opinions that carries more weight? Not happening. LMAO.


Ben Pronin Says:

I think we’ll get a better idea of how much longer Nadal will play after 2015. Does he storm back to the top or near the top like in 2013? Or does he continue to struggle with form and injuries? He comes back strong, then I think we’ll see him continue to play half seasons for a number of years, maybe even longer than Federer. But if he struggles even after taking so much time off, then he could call it quits sooner rather than later. But I doubt we ever seen Nadal play a full schedule again.

skeezer Says:

“As a parting shot..”
LMAO. LOL & Bottom Line.
U keep saying this but can’t stay away….along with sticking with one moniker…about that the boy/girl who crys wolf….

@ tom,
You may feel Rafa is a better player than Fed, but is he better than the field of players in the ATP? Tennis doesn’t work that way, and your fav would be the first one to say it. Winning Titles and Slams is the task, not being better than one player.
You’re a cool kat,
Mew back at ya ;)

Daniel Says:

Don’t get the fuss with the Fed fans whon wanted him to retire in 2013, they don’t represent the majority of all fans.

It’s funny because when Nadal came back in 2013 and was playing poorly on south america clay, some of Nadal fans where saying that he should only play on clay and grass the rest of his career and not play HC anymore, reducing to a minimal. Then Nadal won IW, breaking the HC title draught and everything changes.

We don’t know what is going to happen and even if Nadal went on to play until 36, Courier and some other here may think he won’t have a long careet with similar results Federer is having. Fed just broke another record as oldest player to finish #2 so nobody have a careetr like him in this regard (and the 11 finals) as another feet. Only time will tell but we sure can speculate, that is the most fun of it together with watching it unfold.

Wog Boy Says:

I just can’t get this week era nonsense, if we are talking about last ten years we are talking about Roger, Rafa, Nole, Andy R, Andy M, Marat, Delpo, Hewitt, Stan, Marin, Ferrer, Berdych..and so on. It is in no fan group interest to call it “week era”, neither Roger nor Rafa fan group, I really don’t get it, ok, I know I am a bit slow..but still?
As Nole fan, just watching his ride in last 10 years and not giving up on becoming #1 and best player in the world in the prime time of two best players ever was a joy, sometimes very painful, but nevertheless joy. Who would have thought just five years ago that Nole will, singlehandedly, break Roger/Rafa duopoly in their prime and become best player in the world, I didn’t. If you call it “week era” you are denting achievements of all of not just one of them, they all come as a package, the package that we are lucky to live in their time and enjoy their games, the package that will be talked about long time after the retire, the package that comes ones in a life time.


skeezer Says:

Wog boy,
Great post and agreed. Where it started? Well documented. It was another weak attack from the start from the rafanatic club, which was a big fail by being in Love with an it rather than in love with the game.
Merry Christmas back at ya.

Wog Boy Says:

“weak” and not “week”, sorry guys, I just can’t help it, I was in a hurry to put all my thoughts on the paper and english is not my first language, good exuse to have it, isn’t it:)

Thanks skeezer, this is the time of the year we should enjoy, I’ll go for chilled “Semillion Sauvignon Blanc”, it is hot and humid here, cheers:)

Okiegal Says:

I don’t think it’s a weak era…….

Hippy Chick Says:

I dont know how long Roger or Rafa will play?but i think Brando has lost the plot big time….

Hippy Chick Says:

I dont think its a weak era either,all any player can hope to do is beat whomever is stood infront of them….

Hippy Chick Says:

Im quite tired of been refered to as a Rafafanatic,i dont belittle other players to big up my favorite,the only thing i have done is defend Rafa when people belittle his achievements,it just seems lately when you do that your on a hiding to nothing,sad the way this forums heading when your not even allowed to celebrate your favs achievements,or defend them when others pull them to pieces….

Frankie Says:

I’d like to see them both “at least ” get to Rio and then we shall see.
Great players come along ever so seldom, it will be a shame when they are both gone. :(

Hippy Chick Says:

Rafa has stated he wants to play Rio in 2016 especially with it been clay,and Roger has no intention of retiring for the next gazillion years,whether Rafa will still be playing then will be more of an issue than Roger i expect?….

madmax Says:

Yeah! Gotcha! Spot on indeed!

Hippy, I think you need to take a chill pill. No one will ever agree about the GOAT issue, rafa this and roger that.

Why bother getting a bee in your bonnet when it is wasted energy.

Enjoy your commentaries morethan anything, so forget the preaching and stop saying ‘oh what is the point’. Everything has a point, it’s just tennis after all. :)

Australia starts soon and then we can all start beating each other around the head again with the same old. :)

Brando, I find your posts really egotistical lately. What has happened to you? You used to provide serious tennis remarks, now you seem to be a frustrated journo.

Get back to the old brando. You were so much better and less inflamatory. Anyone would think you had it in for our fed! :)

Hippy Chick Says:

Madmax ill take it on board,ive just sent in a post on the other thread,saying i will have to lighten up a bit,i suggest you go read it,personally i dont celebrate it but i will say HAPPY CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR to you anyway….

madmax Says:



Merry Christmas and this is for you.

I will back you up. You are not a rafanatic, but may be you should try to be and then satisfy the crazies here who want you to be.

New Year’s resolution! Be a rafanatic!

Mr. Larvey Says:

Totally off topic. Got a Christmas present – Ronnie O’Sullivan’s latest autobiography Running. What a great book. If you are at all into snooker or running check it out.

Anyways, Merry Christmas to all of You!

Hippy Chick Says:

Madmax oh my swoon,swoon,and swoon some more lol,you have just made my christmas Madmax,i only wish i could get the lovely Hugh under my tree in the morning many thanks,as much as i love Mr Hippy Chick i think Hugh is the only man id leave him for eek,just as well he doesnt read this stuff,MANY THANKS AND AGAIN HAPPY CHRISTMAS ;-D….

Hippy Chick Says:

LOL New Years Resolution be a Rafanatic ;-))….

Okiegal Says:

@Chick….like him even better now…..he was Curley
in a production of OKLAHOMA! I wasn’t aware of that….wow!! You better watch out though…. you’ll make Hippy Rooster jealous! Lol

Okiegal Says:

@Mr. Larvey…..I don’t know Ronnie O’Sullivan, but I’m going to Google him and learn something today! Hope you had a wonderful holiday season too! Your News Years resolution should be to do more posting!
Mine is going to be the same as Hippy Chick’s….I’m gonna be a full fledged Rafa fanatic!! LOL. I’m ready for me some tennis…..bring on the Aussie Open 2015!!!!!

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