Federer, Nadal Lead Depleted Canadian Open Montreal Field; Will The Cup Be Roger’s Again?

by Sean Randall | August 6th, 2017, 10:55 am
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The summer hardcourt season kicks into full swing this upcoming week with the Canadian Open Masters event. In an astounding flip from last year when Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray were healthy and the favorites, they are now the wounded while Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal, who had injury issues last summer, are back in control of the game as the second half of the season begins in earnest.

And with Djokovic, Murray, Stan Wawrinka and even Marin Cilic all out of the event, the two legends figure to continue their dominance of 2017 in Canada.

On to the 56-man draw.


Rafael Nadal Quarter
You have to go all the way back to 2010 to find the last time Nadal was the top seed in Canada, and this year he could not only leave with his fourth title but also the No. 1 ranking. If Rafa reaches the semifinals he’ll do just that. The problem is, he’s got a dangerous draw. Potentially Borna Coric to start on Tuesday, then either Juan Martin Del Potro or John Isner in the third round (I like Delpo) followed by Milos Raonic in the quarters. On what should be a quick court, those are some tough customers. But Rafa’s been up to the task this year on the hard stuff and he plays well in Canada. Delpo’s been languishing, Raonic hasn’t done much and Isner is just Isner.
The pick: Rafael Nadal

Alexander Zverev Quarter
Washington finalist Alexander Zverev is probably the favorite in this second quarter which is also home to the ailing Nick Kyrgios and former champion JW Tsonga. Tsonga’s been a mystery for much of the season – which one will show up and how healthy is he? Kyrgios is talented but this summer the Australian cannot even finish matches let alone win them. Richard Gasquet, Los Cabos winner Sam Querrey and Zverev’s opponent in the D.C. final today Kevin Anderson are also in the there making for a rough section. Among Zverev, Querrey, Anderson, Gasquet, Gilles Muller and Tsonga, it’s hard to choose. But I’ll go with the young kid Zverev because he’s in form and he’s got the best draw in this section – avoiding the likes of Muller, Querrey and Anderson early.
The pick: Alexander Zverev

Dominic Thiem Quarter
Easily the weakest quarter with Dominic Thiem and Grigor Dimitrov the top seeds. I just don’t like Thiem’s long-winding groundies on a quick court and Dimitrov continues to struggle. That leaves Lucas Pouille who has a tough opener against Jared Donaldson. Maybe Mischa Zverev or perhaps Tomas Berdych. Yuck! Berdych would be the guy but he’s never made the Canadian SFs, so without much conviction I’ll just go with Thiem over Berdych in the quarters in a rematch of their Wimbledon 5-setter won by the Czech.
The Pick: Dominic Thiem

Roger Federer Quarter
With the No. 1 ranking back in play, Roger Federer has added the Canadian Open to his schedule. He hasn’t won in Canada since 2006, but like that matters anymore – the guy bends time. And I thought going in Federer would lose early here somewhere, but looking at the draw I don’t see it. Polansky or Pospisil on Wednesday? Then Jack Sock or David Ferrer in the third followed by Kei Nishikori or Gael Monfils in the quarters? Nope. Roberta Bautista Agut played him tough in Miami but like most this season, fell short in the end. And I think everyone will do just that against Roger in the week ahead.
The Pick: Roger Federer

Semifinals
Nadal d Zverev: Young Zverev likely gassed after Washington run.
Federer d Thiem: Federer too strong, too focused while Thiem happy to make the semifinals against his hero.

Finals
Federer d Nadal: Why not? Have they ever played in Canada? I don’t think so. Rafa gets the No. 1, but Federer wants the year-end No. 1.

One thing I hate about making picks is when I end up with the Top 4 seeds in the semifinals. In the Big 4 days, you could do that, but not anymore. So at least one, maybe two Top 4s will get picked off. Federer has the best draw. Rafa could lose early – remember he tends to struggle the second half of the year and he’s already played a lot of tennis this season. Zverev and Thiem are no sure bets.

And then in the past you had a guy like Tsonga get hot and run the table in Canada. Maybe Dimitrov can do the same since he’s in a very opportunistic quarter. If Nadal does stumble, can Raonic or Isner or even Del Potro take advantage?

But all that said, this year has been about two players: Roger and Rafa. Why change now?



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78 Comments for Federer, Nadal Lead Depleted Canadian Open Montreal Field; Will The Cup Be Roger’s Again?

Reabirth Says:

It would be a miracle if Roger fails to win this tournament.


Giles Says:

It would be a miracle if Roger wins this tournament.


Arnold Says:

It would not be a miracle if Nadal gets spanked again by Federer.


Van orten Says:

It would be a miracle if both things happened


Tony N Says:

Federer practising on the center court at Montreal… thinking about the miracles people expect from him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PziuN4aH978


madmax Says:

Giles Says:
It would be a miracle if Roger wins this tournament.

August 6th, 2017 at 1:34 pm

Giles, the closet Federer fan! It would be a miracle if Giles stopped following Federer and gave his mouth a rest. :-)


Giles Says:

Hey madmax. Lol. I think you are a closet Giles fan. The moment you spot any of my posts you can’t wait to respond!
Right?


t4t Says:

Ha ha,good one, Giles!


t4t Says:

Fed is a lucky guy. Once again he has a cup cake draw. I predict him as the winner here. Also at Cincy and US Open. He will sweep the indoor season and this will be his best year ever. Congrats in advance to the Fed fans.


skeezer Says:

Love the jealous posts here, and the always laughable “Fed is lucky” post. Giles has a fetish for Fed. All good. I thought however he was a on the Vamos amigos bus. Oh well, welcome to the RF fan base.


Truth Says:

Giles, madmax had trouble reading sarcasm in English. He gave me a nasty tongue lashing.

LOL, t4t. The “Murray fans” didn’t mind that Fraud “won” against the exhausted Nadal (who escaped a tight clay match vs. Djoker), and the walkover dogs Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Baghdatis and Fernando Gonzalez.
Fernando was the only very likeable old weakling from 2001-2006.
Back in 2000, a clown could win a junior Slam trophy.
Now, you need more than a ballbashing predictable bratty princess in order to win many matches, including Davis Cup titles.
Fraud had trouble playing all year because he feared losing to Roddick & Hewitt.

These Fedalray “fans” hated that Djoker beat down their idol monster Fedalray.
How can Fed be better than any player who wasn’t Roddick.
No one can take Fed’s luck as serious wins.
Fed disingenuously praised the thug criminal Roddick.
Roddick was a laughingstock that wasn’t banned for criminal acts like non-stop harassment and violent abuse


t4t Says:

skeeze, why are facts laughable? Fed is lucky. He always gets cup cake draws, doesn’t he? Or are you insinuating that his easy draws are not luck but something else?
I thought you were a Fed fan?


t4t Says:

Do you remember the Wimbledon draw? Fed’s Quarter was so easy that Fed fans could only find an injured Dolgo to worry about! That was truly bizarre and downright funny!


Markus Says:

Roger lucky? You bet he he is. Imagine 19 lucky majors? I’ll take it over being lucky with only 12.


skeezer Says:

Fed had Dimitrov, Roanic(who he faced in the Qtrs btw), Bird then Cilic in the final. Hardly a cupcake draw. AO was bird, Nishikori, Zverev ( who beat Murray ), Wawa, Nadal. Now what kind of luck did Fed draw in those 2 Slams @ 35? This is the same “lucky” guy who went through cupcake draws 3 times to beat Rafa in 3 finals this year.


Tony N Says:

A “lucky guy” is one who loses or retires in every match before he was due to face Federer (Indian Wells, Wimbledon)… then takes the rest of the year off to avoid the risk of facing Federer.

Federer could have won the French Open facing players like Paire, Haase, Basilashvili, Agut, Busta, Thiem and, in the final, a gassed and knee-injured Wawrinka — yet jealous people would claim it was a cupcake draw.

Getting a cupcake draw does not guarantee a top player will win the tournament. At Wimbledon, a top player got a cupcake draw… but then lost when he sank to the level of a journeyman player’s best tennis.


Markus Says:

skeezer, you don’t need to explain Federer to jealous people. They are already jealous as it is. It will only make them jealous and miserable. Oh, in that case, go ahead, make them suffer. Hehehe! And I know one thing that bugs those people the most: 19.


Humble Rafa Says:

Speaking of miracles, the only real miracle this year is that I am not injured at this time of the year. My many doctors are calling to say, “Hi” often.


Tony N Says:

Markus, imagine what 20 might do.
Federer’s Day 2 practice earlier today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeKUXrIsA9o


Tony N Says:

Clip of interview with Federer (in French) in Montreal as well as article on Federer (translate from French)
http://www.tvasports.ca/2017/08/06/federer-ne-reve-pas-a-une-finale-contre-nadal-mais

Another Montreal French news article: “Roger Federer: une pause de six mois peut être salutaire” (translate from French)


Humble Rafa Says:

Markus, imagine what 20 might do.

20 won’t do anything. Some people spend all their time thinking of a number after 19. Just so you know, even kindergartners know that.


t4t Says:

skeeze,I was talking of Fed’s Quarters. Whom did he face? Raonic was already known to be a shadow of his last year’s self.


t4t Says:

Yup Fed is incredibly lucky! At least 13 times based on lucky draws and court allocation and scheduling assuming his fairy godmother swung into action from 2006 only ( I don’t know about the draws and scheduling before that).
Of course skeeze thinks the cup cake draws are not based on luck which is an odd allegation for a Fed fan to make!


LUCY Says:

No one is talking about Zverev, so here goes: He just won a 500 title in the US, so he’s my pick for Montreal. Eventually both Nadal and Fed will run out of steam. It’s not a foregone conclusion that either will win this. Mark my words.


skeezer Says:

Lets see, over time here the jealous ones have said Fed is lucky with draws, lucky with injuries, lucky with weak era, lucky with stamina, lucky with aging, and finally lucky with family. Have I missed anything? Oh yeah, he was lucky that Raonic(from one observer) “was already known to be a shadow of his last year’s self.” Let’s add also @35 he was lucky to beat Rafa in 3 finals. It takes alot of luck to do that.
These types never want to compare draws to his all time main rival, that would be to revealing. Just focus on the task at hand, be jealous.


Tony N Says:

Some humble people “spend all their time thinking of a number after 19″…
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xv6zoza7m6o/maxresdefault.jpg


LUCY Says:

Shoudn’t this be a discussion about tennis, rather than discussing just Fedal continually? There are other players out there!


Willow Says:

Lucy you have to understand that when those two names pop up, its inevitable that it will end up in a food fight im afraid, anyway they wont be around forever, and fans are just enjoying them while they are here, about Zverev hes one of the up and coming players i really enjoy watching, hopefully he will have a major break through ….


LUCY Says:

Willow: I understand the issues very well, having followed tennis for many, many years since I was a child – but sometimes this almost aggressive approach and ‘food fighting’ as you call it, seems very childish to me and disrespectful of other players.


Willow Says:

Lucy exactly, i think you will find we are on the same page ….


Reabirth Says:

Well, that escalated quickly.


madmax Says:

t4t Says:
skeeze,I was talking of Fed’s Quarters. Whom did he face? Raonic was already known to be a shadow of his last year’s self.

August 7th, 2017 at 12:36 am

You know what, t4t, you really need go and watch the AO, January, hard court tournament (as if you didn’t know), and plenty others for that matter, to see that Federer has earnt his place.

It really makes me sick when people who come on here and start talking about Roger in a way that you would think he actually decides who he plays.

Get real! And if you don’t like who Roger is playing, then complain to the tournament organisers. You will find that each of our favourite players have had their own share of draws which appear easier at some point in their career.

You miss the point though t4t, because any journeyman can have their day. Our wonderful professional athletes, (unless they are empty headed), would never take a draw for granted, nor go onto court being anything other than serious about winning and beating whoever it is opposite them

Time to grow up.


madmax Says:

Markus Says:
skeezer, you don’t need to explain Federer to jealous people. They are already jealous as it is. It will only make them jealous and miserable. Oh, in that case, go ahead, make them suffer. Hehehe! And I know one thing that bugs those people the most: 19.

August 6th, 2017 at 8:42 pm

Right on Markus!

19


BBB Says:

It’s weird to me that people don’t bore themselves with this interminable debate.


Tony N Says:

This should be a discussion about this blog’s title “Federer, Nadal Lead Depleted Canadian Open Montreal Field; Will The Cup Be Roger’s Again?” and the Montreal tournament. [It’s good that six posts have relevant comments or information — despite the childish and disrespectful attempts by the usual suspects to take this discussion off track. As Madmax said “time to grow up” and skeezer sarcastically said “just focus on the task at hand, be jealous” – so let’s get back to the real task at hand.]

400 people voted on this blog’s survey “Who’s your pick to win 2017 Montreal?”: 67% picked Federer, 24% Nadal, 4% Zverev, 1% Thiem. In other words, 91% feel it’s likely to be Federer or Nadal, and most of them expecta Federer-Nadal final. If Federer stays beyond Friday (i.e., not looking to get some match practice before he joins his family for the weekend at Cincinnati), then I think he will do everything he can to win this Montreal title.
http://www.puntodebreak.com/files/roger_111.jpg

As Sean considered, “Young Zverev likely gassed after Washington run” if he reaches the semifinal. But there’s a good possibility that Zverev might not even reach the semifinal, much less win the tournament. While Zverev will likely win more Masters events and eventually Grand Slams in the future, he has so far been unable to win back-to-back tournaments after winning his titles: 2016 St. Petersburg (lost third match next event Beijing); 2017 Montpellier (lost first match next event Rotterdam); 2017 Munich (lost fourth match next event Madrid); 2017 Rome (lost first match next event French Open); 2017 Washington (win/lose next event Montreal?). He was also a finalist at 2017 Halle, then lost his fourth match at Wimbledon.


BBB Says:

Zverev is extremely thin. When he said he put on 25 pounds, I was surprised. He’ll need to bulk up over time to be able to win even more consistently.

That said, the courts in DC played so fast that I’m not sure he expended much energy in this tournament.


t4t Says:

madmax says ” time to grow up”
I am glad my post made madmax decide to grow up. Can we now expect madmax not to agonize over Fed facing players known to be badly injured or off form? Hope she can keep it real and stop the fake hysterical concern about Fed’s supposedly dangerous opponents and “difficult” draws.


t4t Says:

According to skeeze, if we compare Fed’s Montreal draw to Nadal’s ( main rival), we will find that by comparison Fed has a fiendishly difficult path and it is his main rival who has a cup cake draw!!!! HA Ha Ha!!! Truly hilarious!!!!


Markus Says:

What would make people try to denigrate Federer’s success? I can think of no other answer but jealousy and its accompanying feeling of misery that it is not his favorite who has gained Roger’s kind of success. This is why every post from t4t makes me smile because it is a give-away sign that that he/she is jealous and miserable over Roger’s accomplishments. Call it luck if it will assuage your pain, t4t, but your pain will still be there. Don’t worry, you will heal as soon as somebody else surpasses Federer’s, what else: 19.


Willow Says:

I Would never try to denigrate Federers success even if he isnt my favorite, its really stupid and says more about the poster, i just dont personally buy into the whole greatest ever debate, as for me theres too many different caveats to the topic to draw a definite conclusion, just me but i prefer the idea of having a number of all time greats instead,still each to their own, and please remember people we are all entitled to our own opinions ….


LUCY Says:

Willow: The voice of reason….
I sometimes wish that people would just enjoy all the players’ different strengths and appreciate the tennis served-up by all, rather than trying to compete with one another. I am a Murray fan but I have lots of players I enjoy watching and have respect for all players and their respective fans.
I am a tennis fan first and a Murray fan second! My other favourites are Thiem, Zverev, Nadal and some french players. Enjoy Montreal guys!


BBB Says:

Willow and Lucy – yes. Frankly, jingoistic comments aren’t unique to any particular player’s fan base. Those comments have more to do with the obsession of the individual fan with respect to his idol. In that sense, it makes little difference if the rabid behavior is on behalf of Federer, Nadal, or Djokovic. The player is different, but the underlying pathology is the same.


Willow Says:

Thanks Lucy, but i feel it will all fall on deaf ears ….


Willow Says:

BBB true ….


Margot Says:

BBB @ 11.48 Seconded a million times! BTW How splendid you got to the final and saw Sascha. I really like him, think he’s gonna x multiple slams!


BBB Says:

Thanks Margot!

I see almost unlimited upside to Zverev. And he seems to have an entourage that facilitates, rather than impedes, his progress (cough Kyrgios cough).

He was very well-spoken at the end, and enthusiastic about the fact that the tournament director is a woman (the only one at an ATP event). Taking a page from Murray, eh?


Margot Says:

Lucy we are on the samw page! I am a Murray maniac first and foremost but like loads of others, Zverev and Thiem are probably my favourites of the youngsters, but also like Pouille and Shapovalov…spelling? Chung and so on and many more.


Margot Says:

That’s just great BBB! Lovely Andy Murray as his role model? Like him even more now. Yes, I’ve read he has a really strong “normal” family unit round him. Seems such a nice young man.


Markus Says:

Willow et al, some baits from biased and unreasonable fans are just too tasty to pass up. I love chewing them up and spitting it out to their faces sometimes. I have the utmost respect for all players but not to their logic-impaired fans who think that denigrating another will automatically elevate their favorites. Sad souls.


skeezer Says:

“I sometimes wish that people would just enjoy all the players’ different strengths and appreciate …”

So true. Tell t4t, giles and HR that.


Willow Says:

Skeezer i believe Lucy was generalizing, the tedious bickering comes from both sides, when me and my sister used to argue as kids, we used to say to our mum she started it, and my mum used to say i dont care who started it, your both as bad as each other ….


Daniel Says:

Agree, about Zverev. He is still due to show some consistancy on back to back weeks. Maybe is the mental effort to win a title and he let´s down next tournament. Eventually it will happen and it can be anythime soon, maybe this Canada Masters.

Thiem and him are solid at #3 and #4 in race to London and just by theiy playing next 6-7 tournaments it will automatically place them in. Stam Djoko out, Murray still question mark than we have a gap of other players: Raonic, Berdyc, Kei, Dimitrov and a few other all have chances.


Rahul Says:

T4T your so right. Federer always gets cup cake draws. I think you should show all the naysayers the opponents both players faced at the Aus and Wimbledon. Then theyll see how much easier Roger had it.


Humble Rafa Says:

Uncle Toni,

You are family. Let’s keep family secrets secret. No one to air them in Arrogant One fan room.


t4t Says:

Fed fans calling me jealous and maybe Willow calling me stupid, I would like to repeat what Willow said, it says more about the poster.
No one has been able to refute what I said. They are just calling me names.That says it all.
I admire both Giles and HR and am proud to be bracketed with them!


skeezer Says:

“No one has been able to refute what I said.”
You mean rebut.
Read 5:53 post.
Read 3:13 post.
Rinse. Repeat until it sinks in.
Rufuted. Debunked.


skeezer Says:

Haase, Basilashvili, Agut, Busta, Theim, and then a burned out hurt Wawarinka.
Lucky.


Okiegal Says:

@t4t……Yippy Skippy…..another loyal Rafa fan……an argumentative one at that!! RAFA ROCKS! An amazing H2H stat against your highness…..23-14!! LOVE IT❤️❤️❤️
VAMOS t4t! Does your moniker stand for tea for two?? Lol Just curious…..Glad you are posting!!!

PS….Willow is a great gal!


t4t Says:

skeeze, what’s wrong with “refute”. But if it doesn’t exist in your dictionary, that’s ok, let us work with “rebut”. I don’t really expect you to be Samuel Johnson.
Ok, so where are the rebuttal? Looks like they are just as real as madmax’s worries about Dolgo. She at least has resolved herself to grow up. Wish other Fed fans would follow her example.


t4t Says:

…rebuttals?


t4t Says:

Hi okiegal, no it doesn’t stand for tea for two though I rather like your interpretation. I will let you know by and by what it actually stands for.
I am sure Willow is a great gal but she did call me stupid. She seems to have a permanent chip on her shoulder.


Markus Says:

t4t, Giles and HR. Need I say more?


Humble Rafa Says:

Don’t make Skeeze cry. This is not fair. Crying should be reserved for occasions.

Not related to cry baby. That has a completely different meaning of cry.


t4t Says:

Markus: nopes, you needn’t say more. Remember children are to be seen, not heard (Fed fans need to grow up)
skeezer: one example of a fake “rebuttal” by you( see I am sticking to your vocabulary. Always kind and considerate, that is our t4t!). you produce the French open draw where Fed did not even participate so how to compare his draw with that of his main rivals? Ha ha ha!
Second, taken by itself, Nadal’s French Open draw is tough as it contains those who not only are some of the best claycourters, they came in on the back of good performances.
Federer has some of those claycourters in his Montreal draw but Montreal is not claycourt!!!


Humble Rafa Says:

I can’t believe you want to refute the rebuttal. This is going to be great. Better than the Wimbledon final.


Dc Says:

@Rahul
T4T your so right. Federer always gets cup cake draws. I think you should show all the naysayers the opponents both players faced at the Aus and Wimbledon. Then theyll see how much easier Roger had it.

—————–
So what prevented others with cupcake draws to reach the semis or finals or win the trophy or at least reach a higher round till they faced someone tough ?
No one had a cupcake draw, As per the draw, everyone was supposed to face a couple of top players including one or more of the big5 to win the trophy.
Unfortunately, playing high level tennis consistently is tough and the 4 of the big 5 lost to lower ranked players.
Whatever way u look at it, Fed played better than the other big (and not big) players, hence deserved to win.


skeezer Says:

t4t,
Yep your man Rafa at FO with his “cupcake” draw was “lucky” Fed wasn’t there. Remember he got beat 3 times this year by Fed. So he needed that “lucky’ draw and “lucky” Fed didn’t play to get La Decima. Rafa had a cupcake draw too at Wimby but got beat once again by a lowly vet. Apparently “cupcake” draws aren’t a guarantee for him, no?
This is all about fanboy jealousy of Fed’s accomplishments, nothing else.


t4t Says:

The point is, Fed had cup cake draws and favorable scheduling compared to his “main rivals” (as skeeze put it so well). It is not proved that he played better than them, just that he is lucky!
ok, Fed fans, I won’t stretch this argument further as it is clear you guys have no rebuttals, just vague assumptions.
Let us look forward to Fed’s 20th slam at US Open courtesy his fairy god mother! All hail the GOAT!!!


Berghain Says:

Some real bakers here.

Lets get 2 Cupcake draws and the Final we want.
Then the winner can be Cupcake Champ.


skeezer Says:

There is no point, you created your own point for your own pontification, nothing else.
Furthermore , i said compare his draws with his main rival, i never said “Fed had cup cake draws and favorable scheduling compared to his “main rivals” (as skeeze put it so well)..” those are your words., ot mone.
Furthermore, you have not given evidence that his draws are more favorable than Rafa’s this year. If you want to discuss, bring up the draws and facts and make comparisans of all the top 4 this year. Otherwise, give it up.


AndyMira Says:

I like chocolate cake more than cup cake…


madmax Says:

TonyN!

The voice of reason.

Tony N Says:
This should be a discussion about this blog’s title “Federer, Nadal Lead Depleted Canadian Open Montreal Field; Will The Cup Be Roger’s Again?” and the Montreal tournament. [It’s good that six posts have relevant comments or information — despite the childish and disrespectful attempts by the usual suspects to take this discussion off track. As Madmax said “time to grow up”…

t4t Says:
madmax says ” time to grow up”
I am glad my post made madmax decide to grow up. Can we now expect madmax not to agonize over Fed facing players known to be badly injured or off form? Hope she can keep it real and stop the fake hysterical concern about Fed’s supposedly dangerous opponents and “difficult” draws.

August 7th, 2017 at 12:33 pm

t4t,

boo hoo. Bwwaaaaaaahhhhhhh.

What a big, big baby you are. When you hit puberty, come join the mature crew, won’t you.

And for the record, t4t, I have no, REPEAT, No expectations of Federer. I just enjoy him playing on and enjoying the game. Got that? If you are so obsessed with Federer winning/losing, to win your Bet65, really time to get a life. Really, realllllllly, reeeaaallllly time to get a life t4t.

Tea for Two?

No thanks.


madmax Says:

Happy Birthday to The Mighty Fed!

What an example to every sports athlete out there, to keep enjoying playing and irritating the haters.


Rahul Says:

@DC

—————–
So what prevented others with cupcake draws to reach the semis or finals or win the trophy or at least reach a higher round till they faced someone tough ?
No one had a cupcake draw, As per the draw, everyone was supposed to face a couple of top players including one or more of the big5 to win the trophy.
Unfortunately, playing high level tennis consistently is tough and the 4 of the big 5 lost to lower ranked players.
Whatever way u look at it, Fed played better than the other big (and not big) players, hence deserved to win.
————–
No it was a sarcastic comment directed at T4T because obviously he’s not backing any of his claims with facts. Im pretty sure he’s riling the fans intentionally because a quick glance at the draws will show its a ridiculous claim.


Humble Rafa Says:

Special cup cake draw for birthday. No other cakes needed for birthday.


t4t Says:

@HR
LOL


skeezer Says:

HR talking about himself again about Birthdays.
Happy Fishing.


Willow Says:

t4t I didnt call you stupid, what i said was that denegrating Federers achievements was, im a Nadal fan but i dont believe in rubbishing other players when making my poing about him, and please dont put words into my mouth i dont like or appreciate it either ….

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