Wimbledon Seedings: Djokovic, Barty Top Seeds; Federer Bumped Over Nadal

Well, that can make for an interesting draw!

If Fed gest Anderson semis (who is coming back from injury, Nadal on Djoko’s side) and Nihiskori in QF on grass, that would be a dream draw for him.

Even so, all the top 5-8 QF opponents don’t seem a threat to Big 3. Zverev is still low on confidence and usually underperfoms in Slams; Thiem and Kei no threat on grass and Tsisipas will play his 1st Wimbledon with high seed.

The #9 to #16 has more dangerous players: Isner, Kachanov, Medvededv, Cilic, Coric and Raonic.

But overall, all players with some grass pedigree are not high seeds.

There is Wawa at #22 who is always dangerous in Slams and Dimi, Mahut outside seeds, there may be a lot of potential tricky matches in R1 and R2 depending on draw and I think this Slam will have a lot of “upsets” first week before Monday R16

June 26th, 2019 at 11:12 am

Dimi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Presume that is Grigor?
He should be at his peak now.

June 26th, 2019 at 11:24 am

BS giving Fed #2, both he and Nadal made the semis last year and Nadal lost to the eventual champion Djokovic.

June 26th, 2019 at 11:28 am

lyle,

Fed won in 2017 whereas Nadal lost R16.

Wimbledon takes consideration last 2 years of grass results and only last year Nadal had a decent result (semis) out of his last 7 yrs.

Plus, Fed has just won a title on grass, while Nadal choose not to play, they also take consideration last 12 months results, rewarding who actually plays on grass and not just 1 tourney each year.

June 26th, 2019 at 11:34 am

J-K, Yes Dimi…trov;-)

He sure can play on grass, but his form and confidence is low right now, maybe he needs a good draw to build some momentum.

So much potential that may never be fullfilled.

June 26th, 2019 at 11:36 am

Nole draw
Nadal Thiem Tsitsi Isner medvedev cilic raonic

June 26th, 2019 at 12:38 pm

Django,

Impossible for Djoko to get both Thiem and Tsis as they are 5-8 seed, he gets one of them and also more impossible tp get Isner / Medveded / Cilic and Raonic as they are all in the 9-16 seed, so he can only get one of them, if any;-)

But he can get a Mahut or Dimitrov R2 LOL
R1 usually is a quali for top seed

June 26th, 2019 at 1:13 pm

So his worst draw may be: Fed (final) / Nadal (semis) / Thiem (QF) / Isner (R16) / Wawa (R32) / Mahut/Dimi (R2) / Qualy R1;-)

June 26th, 2019 at 1:15 pm

Kyrgios, Tsonga, Dimitrov, Mahut, Chardy, Johnson, Opelka, Lopez, Karlovic a few dangerous players, big serves some top seeds could get in R1 or R2.

June 26th, 2019 at 1:33 pm

Daniel is 100% correct.Your seed is based on your record on that particular surface but it is also a play on numbers.They put Rafa in the same half as Novak in hopes of Rafa getting by him.Everyone would prefer to see a Roger and Rafa final as opposed to a Roger/ Novak final or a Rafa and Novak final.Either way,Rafa is a BEAST!!!

June 26th, 2019 at 3:10 pm

Taa Daniel, we shall see where Dimi is—if he doesn’t start to commit now – doubt he ever will.

June 26th, 2019 at 3:15 pm

Wonder who in the top 32 wants to play Kyrgios or Dustin Brown for their first match

June 26th, 2019 at 9:24 pm

Wimbledon’s way of determining the seeding is controversial and is inconsistent between the men’s and women’s events. Given the conservative nature of the committee and the tournament, and the support it provides to other grass court competitions, the method is unlikely to change anytime soon. Seeding at Wimbledon for the men’s singles takes into account grass court performance. Thus seeding will not necessarily be in the same order as the 32 highest ranked players.

Nadal has missed 9 Grand Slams due to injury: Australian Open in 2006 (left foot) and 2013 (stomach virus); Roland Garros in 2003 (elbow) and 2004 (left ankle); Wimbledon in 2004 (left ankle), 2009 (knee) and 2016 (left wrist); and US Open in 2012 (left knee) and 2014 (right wrist). Underwent surgery for appendicitis in November 2014.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/sports/tennis/rafael-nadal-wimbledon-withdrawal.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/rafaelnadal/5580345/Wimbledon-2009-Defending-champion-Rafael-Nadal-pulls-out-because-of-injury.html

The arguments behind the different system of seeding players at Wimbledon is because the tournament is played on grass and if a player has excelled on grass at other events, then he should be entitled to a higher seeding than his position in the ATP rankings. Most tournaments are now played on hard courts or clay. Apart from Wimbledon, the remaining grass court competitions on the ATP circuit include the AEGON Championship at Queen’s, London and the AEGON International at Eastbourne, UK, both lead-up events to Wimbledon. The others are the Gerry Weber Open in Germany, the Topshelf Open in the Netherlands, and the Hall of Fame Tennis Championships at Rhode Island, US.
Opportunities for any one player to compete in grass court tournaments are even fewer, because the Gerry Weber and Topshelf events are held at the same time as the respective AEGON competitions. The Hall of Fame tournament is held in the week following Wimbledon when many of the top players take a break. The two AEGON tournaments in June are favoured by most players so they can acclimatise to English conditions and try to gain some extra points before the Wimbledon seedings are announced. The system provides a real boost for these tournaments and perhaps this is a major reason for the continuation of this seeding method. Indeed, Wimbledon contributes to the other tournaments on the grass court circuit.

Why Uncle Toni wants to moan and whinge about this, well do something about it! Take action rather than complaining about this – we love the traditional nature of Wimbledon, with all of its pomp and ceremony, but if Uncle Toni wants to pick and choose when it suits him, because not all tournaments are on clay (if he had his way), he is going to have to follow the rules – unless he wants to kick up a fuss as he is doing. Ugh. Boring. No one can dispute Rafa’s heart, his humanity, and his incredible skills, but this moaning about seeding. It has been like this since he has played tennis, and so why complain now?

June 27th, 2019 at 5:05 am

Dustin Brown didn’t qualify.

June 27th, 2019 at 1:39 pm

Draw will be out tomorrow morning. I’ll set up the bracket sometime later in the day.

June 27th, 2019 at 5:34 pm

“Dustin Brown didn’t qualify.”
ROFL you must be relieved.

June 27th, 2019 at 10:22 pm

Thanks RZ!

Gosh, in 2 Sundays there will be 3 Slams completed, this year is flying by.

June 27th, 2019 at 10:31 pm

Yes I am relieved and so are a few others including yourself

June 28th, 2019 at 4:43 am

Well the draw will be out soon. I suspect another cakewalk for the #2 seed.

June 28th, 2019 at 4:45 am

As expected a cake walk draw for the #2 seed. Geez. Havnt even heard of some of his opponents! The man is gonna be 38 soon. They have to make life as comfy as possible for the old fella. Rigged!!

June 28th, 2019 at 6:23 am

Fedal in the Semis. Yep, that’s rigged lmao! More like rigged for Djoked.

June 28th, 2019 at 8:36 am

Is there is bracket challenge?

June 28th, 2019 at 8:39 am

Fed has Pouille early(beat Rafa), along with Coric(beat Fed on grass), hardly a weak start, unlike Rafa.

June 28th, 2019 at 8:51 am

@Kimberly – I’ll have the bracket challenge up later today.

June 28th, 2019 at 10:23 am

Knew it Fedal will land together, the sooner they can meet, more guarantee for a tourney to have the hype they generate, and as Nadal didn’t reach finals since 2011, better they have a chance at semis.

*Nadal has a tough draw: Kyrgios 2nd round; than Tsonga/Shapo 3rd; Cilic R16 and Thiem QF. Actually Thiem not that hard on grass and may not reach that far. So if Nadal survives the 3 straight hurdles (R2-R16) he has a decent shot at semis to face Fed.

*Djokop has Kohls R1, which on paper is not an ideal 1st round for Top 1 seed, but his form is bad at the moment, can’t see he trouble him much. Than Lajoviv R3; Mofils/Dimi/Aliassime R16 and Tisis QF. Looks hard but could be a washout for him. Monfils you never know, Dimi is Dimi and Tsisi on QF on grass don’t know what he can do yet. Seems he is safe in semis to face who knows? Anderosn / Wawrinka / Raonic / Lopez / Zverer. Any of these can reach semis or lose 2nd round at this point.

*Federer has Poullie/Gasquet R3; Coric R16 and Kei/Berdy/Isenr QF. Coric may trouble him, but other tahn that not a difficult draw.

I think Djoko and Fed are almost sure in semis. Can’t guess who Djoko will play there and Nadal depends if he can survives Kyrgios/Tsonga/Cilic

June 28th, 2019 at 10:37 am

Just how dumb do people have to be to NOT see that the Wimbled on draw has been rigged in Roger’s favor every year? And now Wimbledon isn’t even trying to hiDE the fact that they’re doing everything they can to make sure that the old Swiss far at least makes the semis. And if Rafa survives and meets the old arrogant far in the semis then who knows what little stunts they might pull to help the old boring Swiss out? Spike his water bottles with sleeping pills? Food poison him so that he’s sick and dehydrated before the match? Better bring your own food to eat, Rafa and watch those water bottles! Next thing you know you’ll be hit with some “mystery bug” right before the match and feel like crap so take the necessary precautions. And the same goes for you, Djoko! Everybody’s fair game now as these dark, malevolent Wimbledon powers that be seem hell-bent on seeing that little Roger gets #9.

June 28th, 2019 at 11:47 am

Bracket is up: https://www.tourneytopia.com/RacquetBracketWimbledonATP/TennisXersWimbledon2018/default.aspx
(URL says 2018 but it’s updated for 2019)
You have until Monday before start of play to make your picks.

Good luck all!

June 28th, 2019 at 11:55 am

Ronn,

Couldn’t agree more, old colonial power is doing what it was and has been doing for the last couple of hundred years, dividing countries without rulers, disregarding the nations that lived there for the thousands of years.
As for Novak Djokovic, couldn’t care less after he officially opened the tennis court on the grounds of British Embassy named after him, can you imagine how low can you go?
I mean, to open tennis court, where you are born, on the ground of country that bombed you and killed thousands of civilians just 20 years ago, in the present of some ugly, cannot be uglier, member of Shity Royal Family, some duke of something, looking like cow just spat him out?!
Novsk Djokovic, I hope you lose your first match and go hiding under the skirt of you lovely Gestapo wife. and keep preaching your wife BS, since you don’t have your own.

June 29th, 2019 at 2:54 am

Should say “dividing countries with a ruler” disregarding the real ethnic borders.

June 29th, 2019 at 3:08 am

Wow, Wogboy!
Not currently too keen on the “Rule the Waves” country myself at the moment – but, but, but – I’d rather give Novak some slack – given the mixed pressures he has to contend with.

June 29th, 2019 at 5:07 am

JK,
If it wasn’t you I would never reply, I have huge respect for you.

I was away for a while and didn’t follow media, then came back and got shock of my life, Novak officially opening the refurbished tennis court (named Novak Djokovic) on the ground of British Embassy in Belgrade, I mean the best player in the world to open some court on the Embassy ground that fat asses are going to use, what kind of honour is that?!

Silver underlining was, occasionally they will allow Novak Djokovic foundation to use it for who ever they nominate, really, as there is no other tennis courts in Belgrade and as there is mot obvious that it it is private tennis court that belongs to British Embassy!?

It’s so obvious whose idea that was, Jelena Djokovic, but I really expected Nole to have some balls, but obviously he has been desexed, he does what he has been told to do, hugely disappointed, HUGELY.

Sorry if I disappointed you in any way, look at Nole pictures at British Embassy and that “royal” dude that had clothes that went 100 times through dry cleaning, pathetic and that in his own city:
http://www.rts.rs/page/sport/sr/story/38/tenis/3565512/djokovic-sport-je-izuzetno-vazan-za-razvoj-i-obrazovanje-dece.html

June 29th, 2019 at 5:50 am

JK,

Just because I have huge respect for you I did send you reply but it disappeared on TX thread, I’ll wait to see if it will reappear, nevertheless I am shocked and disappointed with Nole, and this is why, you might not understand but some will, I was away from any news and on my return I bumped into this what happened last week in Belgrade, the best player in the world to open shity tennis court on the ground of one Embassy, I mean the best player in the world?! use google translate and check the picture of Duke of something:

http://www.rts.rs/page/sport/sr/story/38/tenis/3565512/djokovic-sport-je-izuzetno-vazan-za-razvoj-i-obrazovanje-dece.html

June 29th, 2019 at 5:59 am

WB,

you are too harsh… maybe Nole is tired of having wars on all possible fronts. That’s the way it is lately:politics are more and more involved in sports.
The NATO issue in the Yugoslavian war…words are not enough to describe what happend there. So many died due to cancer caused by the bombing. And not only in Serbia, neighbour countries felt it’s impact as well.

I am still rooting for Nole, he did beyound expected, he’s my hero, until I hear he killed someone 😁

Are you first half of August in Beograd? My husband and I planned Holidays in August, so we could be there for 1 night or 2.

June 29th, 2019 at 7:54 am

https://twitter.com/borna_coric/status/1144937021078671361?s=21
Hahaha. Coric was named as a threat? Not anymore. Fed’s path will get easier and easier!

June 29th, 2019 at 8:07 am

VP,
You and JK are showering positive vibes around you, I bet it’s a pleasure being around you.

Yes, I will be in Beograd (I like the way you spell it), in the first half of Avgust and it would be pleasure to catch up, my apartment is just next to Skadarlija, as the matter of fact I will be in Europe in July too, based in Beograd but travelling around, Sankt Petersburg, Moscow, Prague, Dresden, Sofia…I was suppose to do Scotland, but my friend who was supposed to be my guide had some problems so I had to leave Scotland for the next time, and I was looking forward to see (and taste) Scotland, I am not giving up JK, I will be there.

June 29th, 2019 at 8:42 am

Giles,
Re; Coric…glad you are relieved.

June 29th, 2019 at 8:48 am

Wow, I envie you for Sankt Petersburg, WB. Is on my to do list as well. Wanna enjoy the Aurora Borealis from there once. End of July, if you are in Beograd, would be fine too. We can stay in touch. I knowwhere Skadarlija is, there are nice “pubs” there, so we could meet, shake hands and enjoy a glass of something🙂

June 29th, 2019 at 10:22 am

Done deal VP, I bet you know where is Skadarlija:)

Few years back, Canadian friend from TX happened to be in Belgrade when I was and we had dinner in Skadarlija (Dva Jelena restaurant), I think he and his also Canadian friend had a good time, it was something like this:

https://youtu.be/VmaAC2s5jr8

That song is particularly dear to me, it’s called “The ballade of dissident”

June 29th, 2019 at 10:57 am

Skeezer. As I said before CAKEWALK draw for the ole one. Maybe the organisers feel he needs all the help he can get at his age.

June 29th, 2019 at 10:58 am

^^^
and that Canadina friend from TX happens to be die hard Federer fan…we didn’t bash him up:)

June 29th, 2019 at 11:00 am

Wogboy: Don’t get me started on the world of old farts and young ones – even though Tennis not quite premium until Monday.
Meghan and Harry have joined up 5 houses to make one suitable for their Royal home costing the country Two and a half Million pounds while food banks for kids have become the norm across this Conservative privilege-run UK.

June 29th, 2019 at 11:42 am

I agree with you WB. He has totally gone New World Order and New World religion too. It couldn’t last forever. Anyone with that kind of fame and fortune is beholden to certain Masters. All the players are.

June 29th, 2019 at 1:06 pm

https://twitter.com/christophclarey/status/1145004515646722048
Also players now resigning from the ATP board.
Hows bein’ the new Prez workin’ out for ya Djoker?
#chaos

June 29th, 2019 at 2:41 pm

Giles Says:
As expected a cake walk draw for the #2 seed. Geez. Havnt even heard of some of his opponents! The man is gonna be 38 soon. They have to make life as comfy as possible for the old fella. Rigged!!

June 28th, 2019 at 6:23 am

Giles being his NORMAL, BITTER, PATHETICALLY ILL INFORMED self. Get over it Giles. Stop trolling Fed, or switch your fan base, ‘officially’. You are a federer fan through and through. All you ever do is pretend to whinge and complain, when there you are with the RF baseball cap and t shirt, ‘Sssshhhhhhh Genius at play!

Silly boy. Silly girl.

June 29th, 2019 at 4:00 pm

Yes Django, I saw it coming two years ago, but believed he will snap out of it, maybe retire and preserve the Novak I started to cheer, the old rebellious Novak, I still believe in tooth fairy and Santa.

He is only theonly second sports person that I was invested in almost 100% and last one, due to my age, first one hasn’t disappointed me, he lived and died same person as when I started following him, his name was Mate Parlov, not that that means anything to you or somebody else here.

Here are the english lyrics of the song I posted the link before, every word describes me and my generation that left the country in 80s never to return. When ever we get together here in Sydney, before to play basketball and had drinks after, now just drink and revive memories (the ages took its toll on our bodies) we blast that song, our wives just look at each other and say “they are gone”, meaning we wasted (drunk) and move away, later driving their old and drunken farts husbands home having to listen that song time and time again on the way home:

https://lyricstranslate.com/en/balada-disidenta-ballad-dissident.html

June 29th, 2019 at 6:11 pm

Haha, WB, looks good, we could have our Rendez Vous there :)

sorry for the late reply, but after writing you the last time on Saturday, I was travelling and did no longer check TX

July 1st, 2019 at 5:51 am