Federer Still Can’t Win In Monte Carlo; Nadal, Djokovic Move Closer To Saturday SF

by Sean Randall | April 16th, 2015, 8:52 pm
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After four days of relatively in-form results, things were turned upside down a little today in the Monte Carlo third round as the top two Swiss players and last year’s finalists Stan Wawrinka and Roger Federer were both sent home consecutively in straight sets on center court.

It’s hard to say which was the bigger surprise because, Wawrinka, who won this title a year ago, was absolutely destroyed by Grigor Dimitrov 6-1, 6-2 in under an hour. That scoreline was a shock!

Then Federer fell to Gael Monfils 6-4, 7-6(5) as the Frenchman won the last four points in breaker from 5-3 down.


Stan was just flat and lifeless as a pancake. Roger? Well, he wasn’t on song either.

“There are many things I could have done better,” Federer said. “I could have served better. I could have mixed it up a bit better. Also I didn’t play my slice backhand well enough. There are some things I did a little bit better and some other things I didn’t do well. Anyway, I never felt comfortable during the whole match… I only have to accept what went wrong and go from there.”

The good news for Stan, if there is any, is that he doesn’t have another title to defend for the rest of the year, and he’s already ranked No. 9 so it looks like he’ll hover around the Top 15 for a while despite losing Australian Open and Monte Carlo title points.

For Federer, I guess this is why he added events like Istanbul so he can better adjust to the clay. Monfils has played him very tough in the past, but that’s probably a match Federer should have won given he was up a break in the first and had the lead in the second set breaker. But maybe that’s just the old age?

“It’s the very beginning of the clay court season,” said Federer. “It’s going to take me some time to feel 100 per cent comfortable… Not many guys are perfect this week. But it was a good week for me anyways to come here and practice with the best, play a couple of matches. At least gives me.

“I think the only thing I need to do is go out on the court and practise,” he said. “I need to play many hours and see what works best. We will analyse the practice I had on clay and those matches with Seve (Luthi) and (Stefan) Edberg. We’ll try to see what the problems are. I think the important thing is to play well in practice and to play many sets. I’ll be able to see what works and what doesn’t work.”

Roger has now played Monte Carlo 12 times, finishing runner-up on four occasions. I wonder, is that the most he’s played a single event without winning?

After the upsets, Rafael Nadal had to be feeling even more nerves as the 8-time champ came out to face the awfully dangerous John Isner. Nadal survived a tense first set breaker recovering from a mini-break down. But then let slip a 0-40 advantage late in the second on Isner’s serve only to get broken and drop the set.

Isner was bombing the serve and either he or Rafa (via a dropshot) would end up at the net nearly every point – smart play by Isner, I thought.

As we heading into a decider, Rafa has talked about confidence issues, and here he was playing a big serving go-for-broke guy in a final set. But unlike his match against Milos Raonic at Indian Wells, he came up aces here to win 7-6 4-6, 6-3. So good victory for Nadal with a rematch with Ferrer next.

“My mentality in the third [set was] very positive,” said Nadal. “The game, the level of tennis, [it] improved a little bit in the third than in the previous two sets. That’s very important for me. [I’m] very happy to be in quarter-finals. [It’s a] very important result for me.”

[It’s] a challenge for me to find again the positive feelings, the confidence, the feeling that I am strong again. Matches like today, [the] third set today, helps to improve, helps to arrive to that place that I want to be.”

Novak Djokovic ended the stadium day blasting Andreas Haider-Maurer 6-4, 6-0 to run his Masters streak to 18. Cilic is next for Novak.

“I’ve played quite a lot of matches this year, so I don’t think I’m missing the competitive rhythm on the court; I actually feel confident,” said Djokovic. “I’ve played and won a lot of matches this year, fortunately.

“I have Marin Cilic [next], who is a Grand Slam winner, who is playing the tennis of his life,” he said. “I look forward to that challenge. Obviously now it’s going to get tougher.”

On the second court, Milos Raonic took care of Tommy Robredo in three. He’ll get Tomas Berdych, a winner over Roberto Bautista Agut.

In a mild upset to me, Cilic ousted JW Tsonga, and then Ferrer took down Gilles Simon in three.

So a decent quarterfinal line-up is set for Friday, with all dirt roads leading to the match we want to see Saturday between Nadal and Djokovic which I think will happen.

In the other semi I’ll still take Berdych to beat Raonic and Monfils has the momentum so I’ll go win him over Grigor tomorrow in a tight one.

FRIDAY MONTE CARLO SCHEDULE

COURT CENTRAL start 10:30 am
[6] T. Berdych (CZE) vs [4] M. Raonic (CAN)
Not Before 11:30 am
[9] G. Dimitrov (BUL) vs [14] [WC] G. Monfils (FRA)
[1] N. Djokovic (SRB) vs [8] M. Cilic (CRO)
[3] R. Nadal (ESP) vs [5] D. Ferrer (ESP)


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120 Comments for Federer Still Can’t Win In Monte Carlo; Nadal, Djokovic Move Closer To Saturday SF

tennismonger Says:

Reality bites! Ouch!


skeezer Says:

Is Rafa still saying he is not the favorite? Just saying….


Okiegal Says:

I’m saying he’s not…..the world’s #1 is the favorite. Just because it’s clay, doesn’t make Rafa the guy to beat. He’s got to get through David, and then Novak. I see where Rafa is coming from on this issue. Clay is his comfort zone, all right, but his losses last year to lower ranked players could create doubt. John had that first set on his racquet…..but Rafa hung in there tough. I do realize being on clay gives him the extra push, but I do agree……he’s no shoe in.


Markus Says:

A subpar, less confident Nadal on clay, can still beat everyone just by muscle memory alone. Djokovic is the only one that should require more than that.


Wog Boy Says:

It is deceiving as usual, Rafa is very confident, 100% physicaly ready, no sign of any injury in his movement or body language whatsoever, he is fully fit and favorite to win MC, Rome, FO not so Madrid.
He played few tournaments on clay in SA was practicing on clay since he left Miami.
Nole hit the clay last week for the first time after FO2014, he is nowhere near where he wants to nor where is Rafa now, as simple as that and Cilic played good match was practicing on for a while now. I am happy if Nole make SF, more than happy.


jane Says:

“Just because it’s clay, doesn’t make Rafa the guy to beat”

i would say it makes him the automatic favourite, for sure, but that’s just my opinion.


Wog Boy Says:

jane, I don’t know if you watche Rafa in MC, but he is ready to roar, he is hungry, he wants to win and prove he is still the best on clay and not only on clay. He is well rested for the rest of the season , full of confidence and desire and he will be hard to beat, very very hard.
On the other hand Nole is playing good enough to win but he will need Rome (I believe he won’t play Madrid) to peak for FO, Rafa can maintain his top form on clay for longer tha Nole. That is Boris and Vajda are together in MC, They want to build Nole’s clay game slowely towards FO, as much as it sound strange I wouldn’t like to see Nole at his best at MC.


Wog Boy Says:

^^sorry for the typos


jane Says:

wog boy, no i haven’t seen rafa’s matches because for me they’ve been in the middle of night or very very early morning. but i have no doubt that he will be peaking for clay.

i also agree with you that it’s perfectly fine if nole doesn’t go past cilic. he needs to ease into clay form after winning both IW and Miami, which is a rare feat in itself. i am okay with whatever may happen next. just hope he is healthy and feeling good on the court. that’s the main thing. :)


skeezer Says:

Rafa is always playin the undercard, the truth is something he does not embellish. Some think it is a Pokerstars play, others a sign of crutch and excuse needed to win. The smart players know better and don’t comment on his remarks about his chances.


chris ford1 Says:

Wog – I think Djokovic wants to win MC. Nadal is a confidence player and a Nole win will hinder Nadal’s progress, not Nole’s. In 2013 the MC win did not stop Djokovic from playing level up with Nadal at RG, so I think Djokovic can “keep” his clay form for as long as Rafa..it’s just a question of energy, if he needs rest or not.


Okiegal Says:

A not so confident Rafa is the favorite because everyone says so. I guess Rafa doesn’t have any thoughts or ideas on how he thinks or feels?? Whatever…….


Wog Boy Says:

CF1,
You might be right, but since it didn’t work last couple of years (Nole hasn’t won that missing, link FO) this time around different approach could work better, like Germans in the football world cup, playing slowely through qualifications (MC, Madrid, Rome), building it up for just to peak and hit top gear for the final game (FO). Nole beat Rafa in the final of every clay masters but failed to beat him at FO, they (BB and Vajda) have to try something different.
About the rest, that is another thing, Nole hasn’t have one since AO, four finals and DC match, he needs one, on the other side Rafa is well rested.


Patson Says:

Unlike my fellow Nole fans, I’m tipping Nole to win in STRAIGHT sets in the semis against Nadal at MC should they meet. No disrespect to Nadal y the way. We are seeing a super-confident Nole. This is Nole’s moment. Destiny awaits him.


Ron Smith Says:

Uhmm how can you all pick Rafa to upset Nole right now? Granted it is clay and Rafa is the king of clay. But he’s not what he once was and his current form is a shadow of his former self. Nole is peaking right now and he actually should have dethroned Rafa at Roland Garros last year when he was up 4-2 in the fifth. This I feel is Novak’s year and he has as good of a chance as ever to win every Grand Slam on the calendar this year. Rafa isn’t what he was…Murphy can’t beat any of the big three and Federer isn’t going to win another unless it’s Wimbledon with the draw working out perfectly for him. Anyways, I’m rambling now. Let’s just see how Rafa does against Ferrer. I think Rafa will win in a very tight 3 sets. Though Ferrer is capable of the upset. We shall see….


Margot Says:

Lol “Murphy!” Who be he? A new up and comer whose kinda slipped in unnoticed? ;)
BTW I think this “Murphy” could surprise yer all.


KatH Says:

@ Margot – Stop it. I’ve just had the flu, lost my voice and I’m not supposed to laugh…..

PS: Yep, “Murphy” will be full of surprises.


Margot Says:

But….but…but….. KatH, in my defense it was not me who first spotted this amazing young upstart “Murphy.”
*Innocent*


Colin Says:

As a Murphy fan, I think he has an excellent chance of beating Fed in best-of-three on any surface. OK, Roger has beaten him often in the recent past, but I think Andy still leads the head-to-head in the shorter format. As some people are fond of saying, the record doesn’t lie.

As for Rafa, Okiegal, of course he has thoughts and feelings, but he isn’t going to let us know what they really are.


KatH Says:

I think that must be the guy who was spotted in Belfast getting on to StenaLine heading for Glasgow…soon to be on Court somewhere soon….


Colin Says:

@KatH – you’re not supposed to laugh? That reminds me of an old joke.
A chemist has to leave the shop for a while, and leaves his young assistant in charge. He returns and says “How did it go?”
“Fine,” says the young guy, “Just one customer. He had a bad cough.”
“A cough, eh? What did you give him?”
“Oh, a pint of caster oil.”
“You gave him WHAT?!”
“Look across the street. There he is, standing on the corner. He doesn’t dare cough.”


Humble Rafa Says:

If you don’t win Monte Carlo, you can’t be a goat. It’s so obvious even Ray Charles says he sees it.


madmax Says:

Okiegal Says:
I’m saying he’s not…..the world’s #1 is the favorite. Just because it’s clay, doesn’t make Rafa the guy to beat.

Come on Oki!

You don’t believe that any more than we do. :)
Just wish you would be more honest, like Rafa.

HE was so damn honest yesterday saying the other players just are NOT good enough to beat him, murray novak or roger – it kind of has a ring of truth about it.

Oki, HE IS THE FAVOURITE. HE KNOWS HE IS THE FAVOURITE. YOU KNOW HE IS THE FAVOURITE. WE KNOW HE IS THE FAVOURITE.

WE ALL AGREE.

RAFA IS THE FAVOURITE! JUST LOOK AT THE RECORD! STOP WITH THE EXCUSES!

It’s only because you don’t want to tempt fate. I get that.

You know Oki, don’t know whether you have ever felt this way, but sometimes when I have watched Roger play, and he isn’t playing well, I have to STOP WATCHING him, because I think, in some way, if I don’t watch him play for those few minutes, his score will get better, or he will make a great shot, or win the game, etc.

It’s just superstition.


Daniel Says:

Djoko in aother 6-0 set, 2 in MC already in 3 matches, 4 in Miami. How many of those have he give this year?

He seems in excellent form and rested. The faster he wins the better for a potential clash with Nadal who may need more physical and mental energy.


Hippy Chick Says:

He might well be the favorite and still be the guy to beat,but some fans are not arrogant enough to think that means automatic success,if we all said that we would be accused of arrogance,it might seem annoying to some to play it down,but Rafa hasnt played this poorly in a long time,Novaks playing great and is the number 1 player for good reason,and im sure if he beats Rafa or Ferrer beats Rafa the naysayers will be here baying for blood as they usually do,so the guy and his fans wont win either way….


Hippy Chick Says:

Not playing it down but on this showing it will take a good showing from Rafa to beat Novak….


Daniel Says:

7-0 Djoko!


the DA Says:

Come on Murphy!


Giles Says:

Joker’s first opponent is ranked 759, his second opponent 67 who apparently came off the back of playing 3 consecutive matches, he is now playing Cilic who has just come back from injury. And Daniel says joker is “in excellent form and rested”. LMAO


Giles Says:

PS. Sorry I don’t know where I got 759 from. He is ranked 52.


Giles Says:

And what the hell is 7-0 Djoko??? Getting ahead of yourself Daniel? Pathetic!


Tennis Fan Says:

Raonic has a foot injury. Too bad because the field was wide open for him given he has always had Berdych’s number. I thin Milos was ready for a break through so this is a bad set back at the wrong time of the year, He will probably have to skip the French to let the stress fracture heal and it could impact his Wimbledon hopes. He is so driven this will drive him crazy.


Margot Says:

@The DA
Glad to see you too have joined “Murphy’s Gang.”
The kid could go far.


Emily Says:

Not surprised by this morning’s results at all. Raonic was complaining about his foot at the beginning of yesterday’s match, but you never want to see a retirement in a Masters QF. Monfils has been playing great tennis, and created some fantastic shots against a completely bewildered Grigor. Nole does what Nole does before he has to meet his main rivals.

Interested to see what happens if we get that Rafa/Nole semi, b/c I feel like both will turn it up a notch. Hoping Monfils makes it to the final and maybe he can have his long-deserved breakthrough win.


madmax Says:

Hippy,

Yeah, yeah.

So Monfils is fortunate with the win? I didn’t see the match, so could anyone give an honest opinion on what he did right against Grigor? Love to hear.


Emily Says:

@madmax, I didn’t see the 1st set, but Monfils was simply outplaying Dimitrov in the 2nd. He wasn’t fortunate to win, he was hitting great shots and didn’t let Grigor play his game. The commentators were suggesting that Dimitrov needed to work on his clay court game, b/c Monfils was just hitting winners from all over the place. I think having a coach is really helping him, tactically and mentally, since he’s showing he can use his talent to beat anyone.


Emily Says:

Still the 1st set, but Rafa is looking good for the SF w/ 2 breaks. Ferrer going after Nadal’s backhand and hitting hard, but he’s not getting through.


nitesh Says:

Nadal seerving for set hope he gets it


jalep Says:

@Emily, maybe if all of us write formal complaints to Tennis Channel they would understand that their commentators are ruining the tennis.


Emily Says:

@jalep, that’s why I’m watching on espn3 b/c they use the good commentators we get on tv before the tennis channel pack descends. The only commentator I’ve enjoyed is when they occasionally use Marion Bartoli, b/c she’s lighthearted and has a good perspective since she hasn’t been away from the game that long.


Markus Says:

It will always take a “good showing” from Rafa to beat Novak not just on clay but on all surface. The reverse is also true.

It’s interesting how the most vocal of the Nadal fans underestimate him so much. They have less confidence on Rafa than he has to himself. Are trying to outdo each other on who has the least confidence?


Markus Says:

I also watch on ESPN3 to avoid those horrible Tennis Channel commentators who can’t stop yapping. Do they think they’re on radio?


jalep Says:

Oh good idea.@Emily. Espn3.

I love Marion Bartoli. She’s great. Smart.


jalep Says:

Hallelujah. Ferrer dodges a bagel 2nd ser.


Daniel Says:

Looks like blockbuster semis (anticipated final) will happen.


jane Says:

“murphy” eh? is that lad scottish?


jalep Says:

Cilic was a real disappointment today, as was Dimitrov. Also Raonic: he was telling the trainer that his whole foot was numb and couldn’t feel it.

Hope Monfils can stay in destroyer mode for semifinal!


Felipe Says:

Nadal will have to rise his level if he wants to play on sunday. Ferrer playing like crap


Felipe Says:

Nadal chokes big time…playing ultra defensive tennis.


jalep Says:

Nadal’s backhand looks vulnerable but if he has time to run around it and use that forehand the point is over.

Ferrer breaks!


Emily Says:

Going to a 3rd, Ferrer being much more aggressive than Nadal


madmax Says:

Markus Says:
It will always take a “good showing” from Rafa to beat Novak not just on clay but on all surface. The reverse is also true.

It’s interesting how the most vocal of the Nadal fans underestimate him so much. They have less confidence on Rafa than he has to himself. Are trying to outdo each other on who has the least confidence?

April 17th, 2015 at 9:56 am

Markus,

It’s interesting what you say.Are you a Rafa fan and if so, what is your take on this, speaking for yourself, that is.


Felipe Says:

Looks like someone wants to keep the head to head 23-19….Nadal wasting a double break in the second set and proceeds to lose the same 7-5.


Okiegal Says:

3rd set to come…..the little beast fought back!
C’mon Rafa, git r done!!


madmax Says:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/rafael-nadal-return-john-isner-serve-monte-carlo-score-win

Rafa was almost in the crowd when he was waiting for Isner to serve yesterday. Incredible!


Okiegal Says:

I haven’t said anything about Rafa that he hasn’t said about himself, from his confidence level on down to whether or not him being considered the favorite.


Tom Says:

If Nadal loses this match, you will know that 1- he’s losing a few steps even on clay and 2- probably got butterflies knowing No1e is waiting for him and about to make it the head-to-head 20-23. I wonder what the apologists will say when he goes down in Paris this year???? Hmmmm…We know what Rafa will say- “injury”


Markus Says:

@madmax: I’m not a Rafa fan but I know and can say with great confidence that he can beat anybody on clay. The only who who poses a threat right now is Djokovic. I have mentioned before who my favorite is (was?). He is currently the top-ranked basket case in tennis: Gasquet. I admire and have great respect for the top 3 (yes, 4) but I am still looking for a new favorite.


Markus Says:

Does it follow that when somebody loses confidence on himself that the people who care for him should likewise lose confidence in him, too? How good would that be in boosting the confidence of the crestfallen?


jalep Says:

Ferrer has at least made this the most interesting match today…for a set anyway.


Okiegal Says:

Is Ferrer playing great today it what?? Or US Rafa playing badly?, Tennis low it all fans, tell me??


Okiegal Says:

Oops…..know it all fans….should say..


Okiegal Says:

Should say or is…..fatty bread fingers…lol


Felipe Says:

Ferrer was crap until 2-4 down second set…Nadal has been inconsistent and defensive all day…but Ferrer is now more agresive, but said agression is lacking consistency.
Even Nadal 2014 would have locked this down in two sets.


jalep Says:

Ferrer did beat Nadal at Monte Carlo in 2014.

He couldn’t do it today.


Nitesh Says:

finally it’s joker vs rafa


Nitesh Says:

Finally Nadal gets his first top ten win & semi-final @ a master tournament


Felipe Says:

Hopefully tomorrow Monfils is as comitted as he has been all this week. He needs a Master 1000 under his belt in order to believe that he can win in Paris next month…has has all the tools…speed, stamina, power, crazy defence, huge serve, and the french crown behind him.
First…Berdych tomorrow, who is no slouch in a semi final stage (final is a different story).
The second semifinal…will depend on Nadal…this Nadal have no chance in hell against Djokovic…he must raise his level, serve better, possition himself closer to baseline, unleash the FDDL with confidence….its a really tall order…currently, Djokovic is playing 70% of his abilities and is giving bagels to everyone, he is returning every first serve and killing the second serves.
Today a crap Ferrer (50 UE) pushed him to a third set.


Giles Says:

Rafa lives to fight another day.
Vamos Champ!
Proud to be your fan, win or lose!


Nitesh Says:

Djokovic : Nadal 70 : 30


chris ford1 Says:

Wish I was there to see Djoker-Nadal. While Nadal is doing his best “I’m a 97 lb weakling!” poker bluff, I will believe he is the underdog in any clay match only after he has two horrendous Euro clay seasons in a row. Which isn’t even close to happening yet.

He is 14-4 against Nole on clay. And Nole is the only serious threat he has ever had on clay. Except back almost 10 years ago, Roger pressed him a few times while losing in 2005-2006.


Michael Says:

Novak vs Rafa at clay after a long hiatus is going to be very interesting. On the basis of form and confidence, Novak holds the edge. But the man at the other end is the Master of Clay Courts who has held his fort for quite a long time and literally seems invincible on this surface. So it is going to be a pulsating contest. I tip Novak to win this encounter in three sets with two tough ones.


jane Says:

did sean call for a nadal vs berdych final? if so, he’s still on track.

“He is 14-4 against Nole on clay” …which is really all that needs to be said. edge goes to rafa, every time.


TennisVagabond.com Says:

Yes Jane. And 3 of those were 2011, no?
Novak is #1, sure, but we’ve seen Rafa coming into clay season and being favoured against a certain dominant #1 for many years.
He is the Clay Beast until proven otherwise.
Not that this is a foregone conclusion of course. Should be a great match.
Am I the only one who finds their match-up on clay more entertaining and varied than their hard court defensive battles?


Okiegal Says:

@madman 7:26….The only time I get feedback on here is when I make a bold statement regarding Rafa. I’m gonna let this ride, not feeling very argumentative today…..life’s too short for it. I’m allowed an opinion and they differ from yours and the majority of everyone else on here, but that’s life!!

Dear Rafa: Keep your head on straight, feet moving, your best shot selections, good strategy, thinking fast on your feet……. show why you are the King of Clay! You can bet Novak will throw everything but the kitchen sink at you tomorrow, be vigilant!!


SG1 Says:

For a fair weather tennis fan, Rafa playing on red clay would make him the favorite. Rafa is the King of Clay isn’t he? Then he’s always the favorite on that surface. Tennis isn’t played in that kind of vacuum. Form has a role in results. Novak has been in better form than Rafa for some time now. Even with the tennis court being red clay, this fact can’t be easily dismissed. I don’t see how Rafa could be favored over Novak right now on any surface. If they meet in MC semi and Rafa wins, my opinion will change. Until then, Novak is the favorite in pretty much every tournament he enters.


Daniel Says:

Gilles,

Djoko was 7-0 in games won at that point and than 8-0. First game Cilic won was down 0-2 second set after losing 6-0. Jes.. do you know the game?!?!?! There is nothing to do with Nadal. Think you see the 7-0 in here and get bad memories. LOL

And yes, regardless of his opponent rank he is rested this week if he is winning 6-1 6-4, than 6-4 6-0 and today 6-0 6-3. Even with the IW/Miami double (which is played in 1 month, so far this week it was basically deluxe practice for him.

We’ll know better tomorrow against Nadal. Who played 2 three setters in a row.


madmax Says:

You know Oki, don’t know whether you have ever felt this way, but sometimes when I have watched Roger play, and he isn’t playing well, I have to STOP WATCHING him, because I think, in some way, if I don’t watch him play for those few minutes, his score will get better, or he will make a great shot, or win the game, etc.

It’s just superstition.

April 17th, 2015 at 7:26 am

Okiegal Says:
@madman 7:26….The only time I get feedback on here is when I make a bold statement regarding Rafa. I’m gonna let this ride, not feeling very argumentative today…..life’s too short for it. I’m allowed an opinion and they differ from yours and the majority of everyone else on here, but that’s life!!

Oki, I think I was pretty polite to be honest. If you read the above, I was trying to share an experience with you, when I watch Roger play, see above. Problem is, you prove that Roger/Rafa fans just cannot have a good conversation with each other. You get ready to bite back and believe your truth. Carry on.

I don’t believe it for a moment. What will happen is Rafa will win. How can he not? I just don’t believe that after all the years he has served you, with his fans saying, HE IS THE BEST, HE IS THE BEST, his Uncle trying to fool people that he is not playing at his best, has lost his confidence, then goes on to win.

I get tired of hearing these excuses. So, if you want to resort to mistyping my name because you are in a bad mood, carry on. A bit childish Oki, thought you were past that. Obviously not.

I just believe that Rafa will win, he is the best at clay. I look forward to the match, (with a few nerves, but not as many as if I were watching Roger play), and I believe he will beat Novak.

My two cents.


madmax Says:

I think it will go to three sets and Rafa will miraculously “reassert” his confidence and his crown on clay.

Clay is a different surface and we are talking about Rafa.


Tom Says:

I love the delusional Nadal fans. It reminds me of when Rafa finally got over the hump at Wimbledon known as Federer. You can see No1e is gearing up to finally take them down. I have seen nothing to suggest he will beat him tomorrow. I also expect to not see you Rafanatics after Paris because this is all you have left to cheer about anymore- clay season…


Markus Says:

I’m with madmax on this. Rafa is clay and clay is Rafa.


django Says:

How on earth is Rafa not the favorite?? He’s won RG a hundred times….


Ben Pronin Says:

Can we just be happy that this rivalry is renewed?


Giles Says:

Daniel. Are you a fed fan or a joker fan? Not really interested per se. just curious.
Just to remind you Rafa has won plenty against joker so the 7 wins you are referring to is not of any significance now. Rafa whooped his butt how many times after that?
Btw why were you counting games instead of keeping score? Calling 7-0 in the middle of a match is stupid unless you were calling a TB!


Patson Says:

This is really turning into 2011, and I’ll be VERY surprised if Nole doesn’t win tomorrow. SG1 pretty much echoed my sentiments.


Giles Says:

Not expecting too much from Rafa tomorrow. He has played nigh on 6 hrs in 2 consecutive days. Bound to be tired whereas the other one playing low level opponents will be fresh. Oh well.
Vamos Rafa!


elina Says:

While Rafa has a shot tomorrow, anyone who’s objectively watched both players play recently including this week would make Nole the favourite tomorrow.

Has anyone here even bothered to check the odds at MC and RG?

Nole is the favourite at both events on the vast majority of professional betting sites.

I think I’ll take their word for it.

End of.


Nitesh Says:

whatever any one say this is the best contest of this season


Emily Says:

@madmax, I’m actually the opposite to you in terms of watching my favs. I feel like if I watch, I can send good vibes and help them win. It’s pretty ridiculous, but it’s how I deal w/ my nerves. However, yesterday I turned off Stan’s match in disgust b/c I knew all the positive vibes in the world weren’t going to turn that match around.


Hippy Chick Says:

Tom if you read the posts from the Rafa fans,you will see like myself and Okiegal are saying we arent that confident about his chances on clay this year,Novak is playing waaay better than Rafa is ATM,it seems that fans of other players that are annoyed that this year we dont think hes a clay shoo to win everything,but then again who knew?….


Giles Says:

Yes joker is the favourite for every single tournament until the end of the year but that does not mean he is going to win them all. We shall have to wait and see. Who’s to say he won’t get injured in the meantime? Anything can happen.


Hippy Chick Says:

Patson then why are us Rafa fans been pulled to pieces then for playing down his chances going on recent form WTF?….


Patson Says:

@Elina

You’re wise in taking into account what the bookmakers say.

The odds and the gods are against Rafa.


Giles Says:

HC. I’m a Rafa fan. Did I say I wasn’t confident about Rafa’s chances on clay this year? This is the first tournament in the CC season and you and Okie have made up your minds that Rafa is going to lose every tourney. Crystal balls aplenty, no??


KatH Says:

@ Emily – Know how you feel – I send the good vibes via crystals (don’t discount them – they are what makes watches work – and even my husband (a geologist) is a believer……..
Cheers


Patson Says:

HC

I oppose such behavior, attitude, and comments in all forms and manifestations. Damn, I sound like the White House spokesperson here.

Unfortunately, you (HC) and Okiegal are generally collateral damage in the tit-for-tat duels we have here. I sympathize with you; rest assured, in me, you will always find a reasonable and fair Nole fan.


Patson Says:

@KatH

“I send the good vibes via crystals (don’t discount them – they are what makes watches work”

Not if its an Apple Watch !


Hippy Chick Says:

Madmax i dont know why your making such an issue about what Rafa fans are saying,we aint confident you are,some of us just feel differently so whats the problem with that?,Daniel,Michael,Patson etc think Novaks a shoo for practically everything this year,and hes your second favorite so i expect you will be happy if he does clean up this season,and havent you said you find the CC season boring so whats the difference if Rafa does fail miserably?BTW from some other threads i havent actually seen him play as ive been away so ive only gone by scorelines,also Rafas not my idol as i dont believe in the concept of tennis players,sports personalities or otherwise been used as idols or roll models those were my late parents,anyway im not playing his chances down im just not feeling confident about his chances,others might well feel the exact opposite and thats their perogative?….


Hippy Chick Says:

Giles sorry some,you feel your way and i feel mine….


Daniel Says:

Gilles,

I had just rite a previous post mentioning that Djoko was distributing too many bagels this last 2 tournaments, and then he just broke Cilic again hence the 7-0.

I can counts games in the middle of a match if I want to. In that moment was relevant and who are you to say counting games or score is stupid…?!?!? bizarre.

I am a Tennis Fan first, when a teenager was a fan of Sampras, Agassi, Safin, than Kuerten, Nalbandian. Now of the actives Federer, Djoko, Murray, Nishikori, and several other players whose games I like. The only one I don’t like the game is Nadal for several reasons (he making everybody wait for him, abusing rules, his defensive put everything in back because you will miss style and so on). But mainly the way he plays. It just annoys me just to imagine having to play against him. Murray when enter in his defensive irritates me because he has so much talent and touch a few have that I feel he should be playing differently. But love his matches because I know he will do everything on court, similar to Fed and Djoko.

In a short time Fed will be gone, so will Djoko and I will still be here cheering somebody eles and follow this sport we love.
Being here in this blows since early 2006 and unless they close this out I will be here as long as it lasts.
Be safe!


Giles Says:

Daniel. Lol. The last thing you should be doing is addressing a post to me complaining about my favourite. You should know better. I don’t want to hear it. How dare you? You have got some cheek I tell you!
Vamos Rafa!


Daniel Says:

Novak looks better this tournament than he did in IW and Miami, but Nadal is battle tested. Actually the 3 sets against Isner and Ferrer were great for his confidence, because he lost a lot of 3 sets this season in winning position.

Didn’t saw the full match today just first set but checking scores later saw he also had problems closing out sets, this is a bad sign and maybe the omg matches can affect him tomorrow (most likely not because ehe didn’t play since Miami, more than 15 days of.

Also think the sun may play a factor tomorrow. Novak played in the shadow today and by the time Nadal hit the court it was open skies, this can affect spin which in first set Nadal x Ferrer were insane by both players.


Daniel Says:

You asked for it..:-)


elina Says:

I agree with Ben on Gael over Tomas.

Even though I believe that tomorrow will be a straight forward win for Novak, Nadal’s form on clay this week is a vast improvement over how poorly he played on clay for the most part prior to last year’s French Open.

If he keeps improving like this leading up to Paris, he just might change some odds makers minds by the time Roland Garros starts.


Hippy Chick Says:

Agree with Ben cant we just enjoy the rivalry?….


Okiegal Says:

@madmax……I read everything over again and could not understand why you thought I was being a smartie pants……now I get it, I did not mean to type madman! So sorry. I use a Kindle and its the spell check program on this thing. When I type madmax it’s not in the vocabulary, madman is next to it, so the stupid thing puts that in and I didn’t realize it. I didn’t proof it like I should have. I truly apologize. I believe I’m mature enough to have a conversation with a non Rafa fan. I didn’t answer the part about being superstitious, I’m not at all. I’ve never ever left one of his matches. If he happens to be losing, he’s turned those around before. There’s times I’ve watched and I knew he wasn’t gonna turn it around and I think he did too. Sometimes it’s just a bad day at the office. I do hope you read this and respond.

You were a little harsh with part of your comment in large caps. I still stand by what I said. Rafa is not playing as good as I’ve seen him play. I think Novak is playing better, but that doesn’t mean anything when it gets down to it. I think it will be a good match…..hopefully my guy will win. I think Rafa has lost a step….even on clay. When I made my comment, I never gave it a thought that someone would think I was making excuses. I just elaborated on what I really and truly believe, if I’m wrong in my assumption, so be it.


Patson Says:

Of course we’re all enjoying the rivalry. I mean who over here says that they are NOT enjoying the rivalry ?


Hippy Chick Says:

Okie im with you,clay or no clay Novak is simply playing better ATM,and thats not an excuse its a fact,we all view things differently i suppose,and Rafa IMO hasnt played well for months,however Giles is right i suppose we could try to be a bit more positive,and he beat the perverbial brick wall named Ferrer today although i didnt see the match,so hes put himself into contention against the worlds best player,if he wins hes beaten the worlds best player,and if he loses hes only lost this time to the worlds best player,so no disgrace


Hippy Chick Says:

Patson i enjoy the rivalry,i just dont always enjoy the sarcastic comments that come with it, but ce la vie….


Hippy Chick Says:

And i dont get why many people seem to thrive on making each other miserable either?….


Patson Says:

HC

That’s what Tennis-x is HC. For every Giles, there’s a skeezer. For every skeezer, there’s a Brando. For every Brando, there’s a Madmax, and the list goes on and on and on ….


Hippy Chick Says:

Michael@12.30pm April 17th when do you ever not say that about Novak,you always pick Novak to win over Rafa,even when Rafa had the upper hand and was playing the better tennis two years ago,no offence just saying?….


Markus Says:

Nadal has already done better on clay this year than he did last year. I would take that as positive. But anyway, the result will just be for bragging rights and has no bearing on the French Open. If I remember correctly, at about this time, a lot of people were counting Nadal as all but dead against Djokovic at the French. He may have had even less confidence then, what with physical problems, an AO loss to Wawrinka and a Monte Carlo loss to Ferrer. So chin up, Nadal fans. Keep the faith and get off the bandwagon that toots for Djokovic to be the boss of him…and even on clay.


KatH Says:

OK Patson – Seriously interested to learn what is the technology that operates the Apple Watch?

Crystals (as you probably know) have properties that are not restricted only to watches. Perhaps Apple has too – I don’t know. Educate me.

Crystals have healing properties – presumably you know that – I’m not claiming medical break-throughs but in the area of reducing pain and promoting normal physical well-being without a menu of drugs – there ain’t anything better. Yes, the relief may be short but when applied regularly works for me (disabled husband – now able to take short walks and get out of bed by himself).

Your views will be treated with respect.


Hippy Chick Says:

Been a hippy chick i have crystals in all corners of my home,as well as a dream catcher hanging from window,an altar with a crystal ball on it etc,and no im not joking either….


Hippy Chick Says:

Markus thanks nice post,i understand the confidence of the Nole fans who have every reason to feel so,i just dont get why posters dont understand it when Rafas fans dont feel as confident about his chances especially when you go by recent form?so thanks for putting things into perspective….


KatH Says:

@ Happy Chick – great, great. We rinse ours in pure water (sometimes sea water) and leave them on a window to invigorate them in the sun. Hasten to add, we ain’t weird withit all – it simply does work for areas of comfort, health and etc. Could tell you a few stories – but as usual, I always get carried away. Keep well.


Hippy Chick Says:

KatH i could tell you a few things been a Pagan entails,but you and everyone here might think im a bit weird….


Patson Says:

@KatH

There must be a crystal in smart watches as well. I guess it’s like a small computer, and computers do have crystals because they do have an internal clock. So you’re right, I’m wrong.

Patson KOed. KatH wins in a decisive fashion.

(Patson hands over a big box of chocolates to KatH to celebrate this unprecedented victory)


KatH Says:

@Patson

What a gentleman! – the chocs. are delicious.
Taa much.

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