Djokovic Booed Into US Open Semifinals; Women’s Semis Saturday
by Richard Vach | September 4th, 2008
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Andy Roddick’s US Open came to a disappointing end Thursday night in the quarterfinals at the US Open when the former champion turned around a flat opening two sets but eventually fell 6-2, 6-3, 3-6, 7-6(5) to world No. 3 Novak Djokovic.


Roddick didn’t give the US Open crowd anything to cheer about until a break to go up 3-1 in the third, eventually closing out the set 6-3. Roddick was slowly upping his level while the Serb failed to maintain his early intensity. In the fourth things stayed on serve until 3-3 when a series of striking Roddick backhands earned him the break. But serving at 5-4, Roddick threw in a couple nervous double faults to let the Serb back in the set. Play progressed to a tiebreak, where at 5-5 Roddick blinked first during a blistering rally with an ill-timed dropshot that fell into the net. Djokovic sealed the match on the next point with a service winner, progressing to a match-up with Roger Federer.

After the match in an on-court interview, Djokovic lambasted Roddick for joking that the Serb was suffering from 16 injuries, drawing boos from the US Open crowd.

“I’m really happy playing against Roddick on his court and his crowd and in his favorite city, is a huge effort,” Djokovic said. “Andy was saying I had 16 injuries in the last match, and obviously I don’t. That is not nice to say I have 16 injuries and I am faking it.”

Federer needed his best tennis in a tight 7-6(5), 6-4, 7-6(5) win over qualifier Gilles Muller of Luxembourg.

“It was tough today, especially to break against the wind,” Federer said. “It was almost impossible. He’s a big guy. He gets great angles and he’s got a lot of afety in his serve, especially the first serve. He does have great variety. So I always knew it was going to be hard to break against that, and it makes it frustrating in itself, knowing on that side you’re not going to have much of a chance. That’s why I was really happy coming through in the third set tiebreaker, because I had to serve to stay in the set against the wind and then start the breaker against the wind, which I knew was going to be really dangerous and tricky.”

Muller, who upset Roddick three years ago in Flushing Meadows, has since then been mired in the minor-league Challenger circuit due to confidence challenges bumping up against high expectations.

“I think I learned a lot,” Muller said. “What I learned is that I know how to deal with a lot of situations, which I couldn’t do before. I mean, for me, the most amazing thing is that this is the first time in my career I’m actually winning a lot of matches. Before I used to win one big match and lost the next one, because I lost focus and I was getting all fired up in my head because I won that match. But now I’m just staying calm…”

Friday in Flushing features the women’s semifinals in (5) Elena Dementieva vs. (2) Jelena Jankovic, and (6) Dinara Safina vs. (4) Serena Williams.

NOTES

RAIN ON ME — From the USTA: “The current weather forecast for the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center calls for rain on Saturday, September 6th, during both Day Session #24 (Men’s Singles Semifinals) and Night Session #25 (Women’s Singles Final). In the event that inclement weather causes the USTA to reschedule Day Session #24 (Men’s Singles Semifinals), Night Session #25 (Women’s Singles Final) and/or Day Session #26 (Men’s Singles Final), tickets for each session will provide access to the same session at its rescheduled date and time. The USTA has several contingency plans in place depending on the time and duration of the inclement weather. Those plans will be implemented and communicated as the forecast develops throughout the day on Friday.” Can you say ‘Monday night prime-time final’? Make it happen USTA.

LET IT OUT ROG — Roger Federer says his more frequent outbursts during this US Open is just a chance to let it out with less pressure on his shoulders: “I’m in good spirits at the moment because the Olympic gold definitely helped to sort of, you know, not be more happy on court, but maybe more outgoing, because I’m always like this, especially in the practice, you know. So I guess for a while I put my head down in the matches and just tried to keep that unbelievable run I had going instead of trying to disturb myself with, you know, any sort of reactions really. Maybe it’s a time where I can show a little bit more and it comes out.”

WTA ON-COURT COACHING BACK AGAIN: The WTA Tour has approved on-court coaching for the 2009 season, leaving the men’s tour as the only “individual” tennis sport. Can they go to the bathroom for the players too? Argue line calls for them? They are already allowed to illegally coach them from the stands during the entire match, which is poorly policed. Chris Evert didn’t need her parents coming on court during changeovers, telling her to hit it to the girl’s backhand. Let the players figure it out, one-on-one.

MISC: Andy Roddick prior to facing the service ball-bouncing and extra time-taking Novak Djokovic: “He can do what he wants on his service games, and I’m going to do what I want on my service games. I think as long as we both respect that, then it’s fine. You wait a little longer when he serves, but you know that going in. I don’t have anywhere else to be, so it will be all right.”…U.S. Davis Cup captain Patrick McEnroe named his regular squad of Andy Roddick, James Blake and the Bryan brothers to face Spain in the Davis Cup semis on the weekend of Sept. 19…Martina Navratilova tells Dale Robertson of the Houston Chronicle she has a fantasy of playing a WTA event after she turns 60…USA Network, great 25 years of US Open coverage — ESPN will be hard-pressed to match that effort, John McEnroe’s mouth and Jim Courier’s mullet.


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158 Comments for Djokovic Booed Into US Open Semifinals; Women’s Semis Saturday

paula Says:

the dude needs a pr person to train him.


Denise Says:

Holy Crap! Djoker is an idiot! I am one of his most forgiving fans, but that was ridiculous! Is it possible to be less aware of a situation???C’mon Roger!


Richard Vach Says:

I think it is good for tennis — that kid has a pair of brass, uh, tennis balls to tell off Andy and all the people who think he is faking injuries in front of the biggest tennis stadium in the world. Maybe tennis will make SportsCenter tonight for the first time in 10 years.


Danica Says:

No, in fact Nole did the right thing. Roddick needs a PR person. Double standards yet again. Had Nole badmouthed Roddick in press conference the same way, you guys would have crucified him. Can’t believe you are so biased. Well, I can.

Go Nole!


andrea Says:

what he needs is to take what he dishes out. it’s all fun and games last year when he does impersonations of other players to put himself in a good light, but as soon as the spotlight comes on him in a negative light he gets upset? double standard!!!!

robredo already outed his hypochondriac ways earlier and everyone, including the fans, knows how much of a pansy he is…over dramatizing all the time.

i hope NYC turns on him in his match against roger. he is just such a loser.


that matt Says:

man oh man, Djokovic you take the cake my man…

grow up soon buddy…


marinara123 Says:

WHat a bunch of haters!


the boss Says:

Andy’s trash talking before the match worked against him. Excellent coments after the game. He kicked Andy to the curb.


Dave Allen Says:

I am not a big Roddick fan, but what Djokovic said was unsportsmanlike. Taunting the crowd was just down right rude. Especially since “joke-o-vic” thinks its ok to make fun of other players. He’s just another dolt who can dish it out but can’t take it when it comes around to him.

That is why I love Rafa. Mature, humble, and the best in the world.


S Green Says:

Dnise,
Your mother is an idiot. Go ask her if you don’t believe.


Danica Says:

Andrea, how does it feel to hate someone?

Impersonations were great and most players were not offended. In fact, I don’t like people who can’t laugh at themselves. That’s why Maria Sharapova is great. Besides, Nole did them when he was asked to do them by the audience and the comentator. He stopped when he himself thought that it was enough.

Never change Nole. Speak your mind freely whenever you please. Heck, I thought freedom of speech was a right in America.


S Green Says:

andrea Says:

“what he needs is to take what he dishes out…his hypochondriac ways …a pansy…?”

Your father was a hypochondriac and pansy, and take him to hospital, if you’re a good daughter.

You’ve always been a beach that you are !


paula Says:

I’m with the Rafa lover. But I feel for Nole. I said what I said out of PITY. Roddick really, really bugs me. But Nole needs to be “bigger”: he needs to not react. He made a youthful, and also a social – been to serbia lately, it’s ahh, different- mistake. I’m happy Nole won.


Dusan Says:

Yeah I’m sure Nole cares so much for the US fans that booed him. There is a reason he is so pumped when he faces Americans, that’s what bombs being dropped on him and his family and friends for 4 months does.


zola Says:

well,
first of all it was a good match. I thought Andy would lose in straights, the way Djoko started to play and Andy couldn’t even get his serves in. Djoko had more Aces than him. There was a good chance for a fifth set, but Djoko broke back and won the tie-break.

I didn’t notice the tension until the hand shake. Usually Djoko gives a hug to the opponent. This was just a quick one. And then during the interview, he was just trying to say something and get it out of his system. The commentator asked him about the match, what happened after the first two sets and then Djoko said those words and then the crowd started booing.

I think Djoko was obviously hurt by Roddick’s comments perhaps because they were said in front of the crowd and maybe that’s why he felt he had to set the record straight right there. At that moment I just wished he did not say those.

well, after Murray and Del Potro put things aside, now aother drama begins. I think Andy was saying those jokingly and he should make it clear to Djoko and clear the air.

and tonight was the last night of the coverage by USA channel, FOREVER!
That’s even worse than the incident tonight. I enjoyed watching the US Open coverage on USA. Good commentary and all the matches were covered. with ESPN?tennis channel, I might see more Hamburger eating contest that US OPen.Perhaps the first set on ESPN, second set on tennis channel. Bye to a great coverage.


;o Says:

I dont think Roddick deserved it, but it was expected.
These are highly proud men pretty much living in a bubble world. Roddick, no matter how much he joked in the presser, implied and made the very clear point in a public forum.

It should’ve been expected for Nole to do the same, although most expected a Presser.
Also, Nole didn’t do the impressions to offend anyone. Im a fan of his, so this might seem biased, but he did stop doing them when people said they were offended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4D9yP88-iM

That was about 10 days ago. Could we have seen this coming?


Savage Says:

First of all, there is only one story we should be talking about. Roddick, who has the support of most Americans, let us down again AFTER he shit talked a class act tennis player in Novak. Novak had every right in the world to say what he did and to have the balls to say it, that is even better. Roddick is a talented, arrogant, let down and should give his fiance to Novak. Roddick should have enough class to realize he is representing USA not just his dumb ass. Johnny Mac is just as guilty as he clearly knew why Novak said what he did but he sold out which doesn’t surprise me. USA: Let’s all be unoriginal robots! Lame


Mary Says:

“Impersonations were great and most players were not offended.”
So not true. I would have commanded him to roll over and beg. He would have done it.
There’s something about tennis players complaining that it just comes across as bitchy. Freedom of speech- which his parents don’t employ, sit near them and cheer for his opp. They get security after your ass.
I honestly could care less about what he says.
With Freedom of Speech comes freedom of listeners to react in whatever way they want to your speech.

I think he is exactly like McEnroe with the self-induced drama. We have been seeing it for close to 30 years. Why get worked up now?

“WTA ON-COURT COACHING BACK AGAIN”
Why must every sport move closer to becoming the Special Olympics? Everyone gets a coach, next everyone gets a trophy!
I now have another reason to ignore WTA. As if their selling their players as sex objects, not athletes, wasn’t enough.


paula Says:

What do you mean 4 months? I don’t get your sarcasm or what? Again, I love tennis but my experience as a young girl travelling around eastern europe- you know, they are not us. Nole did the wrong thing- meda wise- but he did the right thing which was to win the match. Anyone want to take that away from him? he won. Roddick didn’t. Let’s here the excuses.


;o Says:

Savage:

Actually, I thought Johnny Mac was on Djokovic’s side. After the little rant, he said he understood, and that he had said some things that offended the audience. I tuned out after, but he probably went into some iconic match he had where he said something blah blah blah.


Mary Says:

“Roddick should have enough class to realize he is representing USA”
I only let myself be represented by Suri Cruise, because Suri Cruise is magical.


Von Says:

Roddick was egged on by the Reporters and he ended his sentence, “you guys can decide” or something to that effect. Roddick used “freedom of speech” too and he’s classless for that? Why the double-standard?

___________
Shital:
I know you’re offended by what’s being said obout Djoko, but rise above the mire. Don’t you think it’s difficu;t being a Roddick fan and an American? It’s OK to respond, but you don’t have to get into the gutter. Fight with the words you know best in your line of work, and that will condfound the critics not the trash/gutter stuff.


Savage Says:

Also, put yourself in Novak’s shoes and then tell me you know how to deal with the great USA talkng shit about you on their home court. Anyone that backs Roddick is a souless mutt and probably lives their life in the US like they are better than everybody. Just because your are from the USA, doesn’t mean you are better than everybody else. Why does everyone miss this fact?


paula Says:

I love that JMac admitted he’d done the same or worse. He saie this about Nole. Not about Roddick. Nole fought the audience. Roddick? He just was an pompous ass. And – oooh- he learned his lesson.


Vulcan Says:

Savage, well said…when Roddick hit a shot as hard as he could directly at Gulbis with the sole intention of inflicting injury and missed the commentators said absolutely nothing.
If the situation was reversed it would of made national headlines (as the Gonzalez-Blake Olympic thing did)


Savage Says:

Hey ;O, I thought Mac was on his side too but he made it clear that Novack should have savored his precious 25 years on USA. Johnny Mac is usually right and he knew the right thing toe say and decided to pull the ‘ole “I’m an American so it is Ok to act like I am better than other people because I am rich!” His comments would have been different if he was from Croatia and that fact shouldn’t matter, based on how I was brought up. Novak was a class act and said nothing until his bitch Roddick got smoked on his home turf in fron of his lady. LOL, laughable man!


Savage Says:

Vulcan, Roddick’s coach has nothing to do with it. Why are you living? Quit letting society down. Your “friends” deserve better. Jump off a building. Next time lets stick to the story. We were talking about how your hero acted like a no talkent ass clown as ususal. Roddick loses because he deserves to lose. It’s karma.


S Green Says:

Von,

Sean wants to gutter-fight with me, so be it. I accept the challenge.

If you want to talk about tennis, talk about tennis technicalities, like Djoko did not make certain shots he should have, I will accept. Talk about your displeasure once if Djoko misbehaves on a particular occasion, that’s fine with me.

If you cross the line and want to play kitchen sink, I am ready to take ‘em head on.

I just wish Djoko had not said what he said on the court today. However, that is peripheral.

If you know tennis better than Djoko, and you want to talk about how you could have done better, I will respond positively. The PR stunt thing is not tennis in the foreground, and I don’t care who said what.

Roddick could have served better and played serve-and-volley to win the match. He did not, and he lost. It was not his day. Honestly, I would not have been sad at all if Roddick had played better and won.


Dusan Says:

And despite those 16 injuries, Djokovic still made Roddick look like the one dimensional big server that he is. He seems to have a complex against Serbs as well, first Tipsarevic, then Troicki and now Djokovic. I reckon even good old Boris Pasanksi would have a shot!


BANIKA Says:

seriously…if anyone is a sore loser it{s andy…for a while he himself has been talking about sitting in the back row after being the frontrunner for so long…his words are nothing but a sore loser,s point of view…

i say go <novak..all the way…………


Von Says:

Until aprox. 9 months ago when I began posting on tennis.X, I suppose I lived in a cucoon. I never REALLY KNEW THAT THERE COULD BE SO MUCH HATRED IN PEOPLE’S HEARTS FOR A WHOLE NATION OF PEOPLE LIKE I SEE LADELED OUT TOWARD THE AMERICANS. My God, some of who aught to be ashamed of yourselves. Is hate so potent as is displayed on these threads? If that’s so, then I’ll revert back to my cucoon, and leave the hatred to those who enjoy it. Some of you live in the US and you’re biting the hand that feeds you? SHAME ON YOU AND SHAME ON THE US IMMIGRATION FOR ALLOWING YOU TO LIVE HERE.

I’M STUNNED!!

GO USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111


Mary Says:

Why is this board turing into Bodo’s tennisworld? It’s the sad pseudo-ideology bitchfest you find there. I can hear your fifty cats meowing through my computer screen.

“Also, put yourself in Novak’s shoes and then tell me you know how to deal with the great USA talkng shit about you on their home court.”

Honey, 99.9% of the Great USA does not give a rat’s ass about some millionaire foreign tennis player mouthing off on our shores.

Good Night.


Mary Says:

Von: Why would you care? They come here; we don’t flock to move elsewhere. Why do their opinions matter? Post your opinions, they’re good. Don’t go down to that level.

Is Bandit here or is he mouring the loss of Snowman? If he is: I posted a reply to your Jamaican team comment that you may find interesting. Von you may find it interesting since you replied to that Jamaican post.


Savage Says:

Banika you are correct all the way. There is only one way to see this match but some people don’t want to believe it. I pulled for Roddick the entire time but he had no right to say what he did. BUT since he thinks he is better than everyone he can talk shit. That is why Roddick is such a joke. All he needs to be is humble and respect his opponenet. Nobody should be backing Roddick in this match. Roddick set the stage and was bitch slapped. Everyone on USA Networks acted like they had no idea why Novak said what he did and defended Roddick. Being from the USA doesn’t automatically better. It’s not hard people.


Von Says:

“S”:

Andy did not serve well for the first 2 sets and that was the key to the match. He began serving better in the 3rd and that’s where the match began. I’m sorry he lost and I wish he did not let the reporters bait him, even though he tried to get out of it by telling them to decide. Unfortunately, he was committed to finishing his sentence, which I suppose to some was “classless”. However, if that makes a human being a “donkey” then I suppose all the trash talkersa here are one too.


Mary Says:

“Being from the USA doesn’t automatically better. It’s not hard people.”

No, not with their constant Law and Order: SUV reruns. I stick to Bravo b/c I don’t like the way USA constantly pimps “The Starter Wife.” Seriously, airing a show starring Debra Messing is hardly something to get all snooty about!


Savage Says:

Von, you should question your USA more. That is why most of society hates us. We are not better than everyone. Man, this crap is so easy. How do people miss this? Do you really believe everyting you read? Have a spine.


Kaka Says:

I think the best suggestion for djoko is he should answer the interviewer more wisely. Come on guys; just face the fact that what had been said by roddick to djokovic in the previous press conference was inappropriate. Its true man, come on!

HOWEVER, stupidity shouldn’t be answered with stupidity. I think he just needs to mention to the audience that all the injuries are not faked. That’s all! Unless he is playing in his country, counter-attacking your opponent in his own territory will not make you look smart anyway! Believe me.

On top of that, USO is an annual event. You don’t want to be booed by the audience every time you play in US, right? So, be wise!


Mary Says:

“Von, you should question your USA more.”
Hold up! Is there a secret USA I don’t know about. Does that USA show “Monkk” re-runs nonstop and that makes Von sad? If it does, she must question. Yes, despite USA being part of a basic cable/satellite package, she still has to pay, so she must question them?

Ciao.


David Says:

I was looking forward to this match as soon as I saw the draw, and guess what! It was pre-empted on Canadian TV for the football! Too bad, especially since Roddick did his best to add spice to the old tennis jumbalaya.

And now my brother has to get married over the finals weekend.

Oh well!

Enjoy the tennis for me!


S Green Says:

As a biggest supporter of Djoko in this site, let me defend Roddick.
Whatever Roddick said the other day, I took it lightly as a light hearted enunciation. I agree with Courier’s interpretation of what Roddick said: “Do whatever–take medical timeouts, change your wrist band, or bounce your ball 10 times–I am ready.” There is nothing wrong with the spirit.

At least, as a winner, Djoko could have been a bit humble to react. He did not need to go negative.

Let’s put that behind and move on, hoping Djoko does not do it again.


BANIKA Says:

kaka… your words

[I think he just needs to mention to the audience that all the injuries are not faked. That’s all! Unless he is playing in his country, counter-attacking your opponent in his own territory will not make you look smart anyway!

so we should all be spineless n with no character and say whataver the crowd expects us to say??? just so we can be liked by all…

in my opinion that is sad, my friend…sometimes you stick to your guns and just say what u think…youlet your game speak for itself…and if he gets beaten in the next match, well he got beaten by the better player…

certainly, you dont hear djoko, fed and nadal trash talking each other..they have nothing but respect for one another..it only the sore losers and has beens that do….


Von Says:

Mary:

Thanks for the encouraging words. I’m so torn up inside by the filth I see spoken here towards the Americans. I have 2 American born children and I’m damned mad that they will have to deal with these ingrates who live off and suck this Country for all they can take. I work for this country and am proud to be a Federal employuee and would glorify sticking their asses in jail any damn day. You’re right, I don’t think my children will give a sh*t, but I do, because I’d be sick inside to see them have to live knowing that hate is genuine and it exists. it’s not a word that i like to use. Hate kills.

Mary, again thanks, and for the link too. I suppose Bandit is somewhere boozing it up. I wish I could do that, but I’m a teetotaler. Goodnight.


BANIKA Says:

apologies for spélling mistakes .,….this spanish keyboard has gotten the better of me …


Vulcan Says:

S Green Says:

At least, as a winner, Djoko could have been a bit humble to react. He did not need to go negative.

Hey the guy said exactly what was on his mind…I commend him for being honest and forthright.
He took what Roddick said as an insult to his integrity. This gave him all the more reason to dispatch the donkey in 4.


Dusan Says:

What’s wrong for sticking up for yourself? Is it custom in America to just roll over when someone says something disparaging about you and questions your integrity?

Serbs are raised to stick up for themselves in the face of adversity. Americans don’t seem to like that.


jane Says:

Well, Novak pulled out the win, and I am happy for him; he began strong, while Roddick struggled to find his form. But he did – Andy came back to make a match of it in the 3rd and 4th sets, and it is much better, imo, that it was tight and that Andy went out swinging.

Too bad the drama is superseding the tennis.

(S, I’ve never ever seen you so feisty; you must’ve been baited, like our players. Me, I am too tired, and am watching mindless TV, like Mary. Maybe I’ll be off the canvas for the next round).

So, I wonder when the semis will be – Sunday? And then a Monday night prime-time final (as Richard suggests)? I like that idea better than sitting through a bunch of replays, blathering commentaries, and wet courts all day Saturday.

On to the semis.


Kaka Says:

“…hoping Djoko does not do it again.”

Nice to hear it from you, S Green. At least you’ve admitted that what Djoko had said was not smart…

Von, your turn now


Kaka Says:

“…hoping Djoko does not do it again.”

Nice to hear it from you, S Green. At least you’ve admitted that what Djoko had said was not smart…

Von, your turn now!


Savage Says:

The title says it all. Novak being booed into the semis shouldn’t be the title. It should have been “Novak bitch slaps arrogant Roddick in front of his fiance and deserves it”. But we are from the USA and we wouldn’t want to give the impression that we are weak. LOL


Bojan Says:

Well, I could swear I saw this coming :/
To be honest, I’m not really glad he did what he did and got boos from the crowd, but I think he really needed to do it.
Djokovic got under spotlight last year with impersonations which were originally recorded at his practice at last year’s Wimbledon. Then, after the match against Moya he was asked to do it, the commentator insisted and the crowd too. He did it, everyone laughed and then some got offended and reacted like he had some bad intention. He stopped doing it.
And at this point this year, he suddenly turned into bad guy. No one knows when and no one can tell you why. From the first round match at this year’s USO, crowd was always more on his opponent’s side. No matter who that was. And one more thing he really hates is when people are yelling while he’s serving and between the points. And that happened about 100 times this year at USO. And then, after all efforts he put into his progress, he got comments he’s faking injuries.
I find Roddick as very humorous, but this statement wasn’t appropriate. If someone saw joke in that I give him credit, but I think no one saw it like that. So, Novak could have continued laughing and being a nice boy while inside he was full of anger, or he could get rid of it. He got rid of it. In SF the crowd will be on Roger’s side, that’s for sure. They would have been on his side even without this incident, and now especially. Both, Roger and Novak are not in their best form, but I think they’ll give the crowd good match. I’m still with Novak! AJDE!


S Green Says:

Savage,
You need to calm down. I am requesting you, please.


Von Says:

Kaka:

“Von, your turn”.

You’re enjoying this aren’t you? Are you the referee or the debate orator? Enjoy the dramatics and reasoning beyond all reasoning. I’m too dry inside to laugh, but I like the humor. Perhaps tomorrow, if time permits, I’ll read the comments again and see the pitiful characters hiding behind their keyboards. I love the dichotomy.


The Oracle Says:

Pathetic yanks… This serb is gonna crush roger and nadal, and shut your dumb ass mouths indefinately… Besides, yanks have sh*t tennis players – period, and are all glamour, animated idiots without any substance or skill.

Crush em Nole!! Jebi im mater u guzu ;)


that matt Says:

Novak Djokovic after the match: “I made a mistake in front of 20,000 people, and I apologize.”

link: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/04/SPVO12O9B0.DTL


Von Says:

“certainly, you dont hear djoko, fed and nadal trash talking each other..they have nothing but respect for one another..it only the sore losers and has beens that do….”

I wouldn’t stick my neck out like this, it could get lopped off. They all trash talk each other, whether you believe it or not. Accept it — it exists.


Denise2 Says:

I actually think Novak’s reply was justified and even mild compared to Andy’s. Novak is obviously the better player here and in this situation, the better person as well. He was only trying to defend himself. Although, he could have made an attempt to win over the crowd in this once. I still stand by but what better way to fully defeat your rival than by taking his crowd away from him too?


NachoF Says:

The thing is.Its not just about this particular occurrence…. Djokovic has been perceived as a cocky a*hole by many for some time now… and after this its probably not gonna change at all, it will increase his bad rep…. I dont think he cares though, and his level of play doesnt seem to be getting affected at all…. so maybe its time we start getting accustomed to having a cocky a*hole on the top spots of the ranks and winning the big matches.


jane Says:

Von,

Thanks for your comment earlier re: “keep the faith” and I am sorry one guy had to lose tonight and also that this incident has turned nationalistic.

My interpretation was that there was a misunderstanding between these two players: one joking and also being baited, one feeling hurt by what was said & heard through the press, and then reacting (imo, in the wrong place & at the wrong time).

I have little else to say on the matter. I hope we can get back to calm discussions about tennis and players soon.

S,

Happy Novak won, but I wish it didn’t end this way. Hope you’re good!


stan58 Says:

S. Green
Great returns to those two biches.(D&A)
I salute you. Have a good night.


Kaka Says:

BANIKA said;

“…so we should all be spineless n with no character and say whataver the crowd expects us to say??? just so we can be liked by all…”

Yes, because he is playing tennis for tennis’s fans. Not only to his fans. And to me, that is why players like Nadal and federer is admired by not only their fans, but also other players’ fans. They don’t really have to counter Sarcastically everything that have been said to them all the time. In fact, as some wise people said, silence is quoted

Another thing is, talk wisely will make you look more “with character,” dont you think so?


Chokovic Says:

Finally the arrogant bastud accepted his mistake. now fans who eat his sheet should follow…. pitiable creatures…. they are the ones who wanted drama and now they pretend to be sad that it supersedes the tennis……

if the fans were not retarded like his parents and put some sense into him when he retired 2 sets and a break down to Rafa at the 2006 French Open and later claimed he was in control of the match, today he wouldn’t be sitting like the high school punch bag and apologizing to the crowd who spit on him. miserable life indeed…..


Kaka Says:

Von…

hehehe…


Chokovic Says:

stan 58 – you are licking sheet’s as*, maybe you can lick someone else’s as- someone who isn’t already licking some one else’ as*…. whatever works for your tongue…


S Green Says:

J,
Sean and Vach are to be blamed for perpetuating this amount of negativity, intentionally or otherwise.
Yeah, time to work on bringing normalcy here.

that matt,
Though you’re not Djoko supporter, thank for the quick link to the interview.
Let me post the rest of it.

Roddick: “Here’s the deal, I think you guys know what I said was meant completely in jest. Novak took it seriously. If you’re gonna joke around and imitate other people, then you should be able to take it. By no means am I sitting here trying to be holier than thou. I promise you if somebody makes a joke about me, I’ll probably laugh. Maybe I should know better, but I don’t think I went over the line.”

Djokovic: “This is exactly the situation I don’t want to be in. Fighting with the people, the press, this is absolutely not me. I try to enjoy my life as much as I can, and it’s all from the positive side of life. Bringing the smiles onto people’s faces. Now it has turned around.”

Djokovic referred to Roddick’s comments as “something I don’t think was intentional. He made a joke, it was a misunderstanding. I don’t blame it on him. Maybe I exaggerated, reacted bad in that moment (with the crowd). This was just impulsive, you know?”

They both admitted their mistakes and unintentional effects. Let’s get over Djoko-Roddick seeming bitterness and move on.

On to the semi.


The Oracle Says:

SERBIA!!!SERBIA!!!SERBIA!!!SERBIA!!!SERBIA!!!SERBIA

————D J O K O V I C ————


that matt Says:

S Green, i’m not sure why you are quick to label me as not a Djokovic supporter. My first comment about hoping he would grow up referred to this one instance of him playing eye for an eye on the public stage. I like his game and everyone should as he’s one of the few top dogs in the game. He could easily win this tournament. I respect his game and I respect his after-the-match apology. That is maturity.


stan58 Says:

Chokovic A/H,

Perhaps yor wife, sis or mam ?

NOLE ALL THE WAY!!!!!


mem Says:

say what you want but djokovic has a need to be liked. he wants to always be the fan favorite, when that doesn’t happen, he gets upset! if he’s not careful, he going to dig his own grave with fans. he is blemishing his reputation. his on-court comments were unnecessary, he has yet to learn that if he wants to one day achieve the #1 status and represent that status with class, he has to start by thinking before speaking! there’s nothing wrong with a dash of positive humor, but he like to prove his point by mouthing off. it makes sense to prove the point with your racquet, shake hands, smile and move on. after all, winning is the sweetest revenge! nadal does it all the time, he silences his opponents with his racquet. why do you think he is so popular? not only is he incredibly talented and humble, he is a smart thinker. he knows what to say, his words are always few, but very positive. he doesn’t allow himself to get caught up in a war of words! he’s amazingly wise for his age! djokovic sure could read a page or two from nadal’s book!


Chokovic Says:

Right shity bastud…. blame it on Vach and Sean, like you are a saint like that joke bastud…. time to cover up your sins?

you miserable and pathetic creature….. you stir up the hatred and act like you did nothing? no wonder your parents gave you a sheety name….. you are worse than those serbian leaders that brainwashed joke bastud’s parents…. shame on people like you who revel in other people’s miseries….


Chokovic Says:

Yes! Nadal! he has to redeem the tennis world that joke bastud is polluting and contaminating.


Von Says:

Those of you who are so immature as to commend Djoko’s reaction to the crowd, hopefully will be around to help this young man soothe his disturbed mind from all the negativity and unkindness that will ensue from his momentary lapse into being ‘a wise a**’. Unless you can unmderstand the human mind, you shouldn’t gloat over this. In all of us deep down lies an innate desire to be liked for who and what we are, this is why there’s so much competition for attention. Novak is a yolung-man crying out for attention, but going about it in the wrong way. I feel for this young man. Not only will he face a challenger in Federer who is not a approving of his status, but he’ll have to deal with the NYC USO crowd, which will be more than he had bargained for. I sincerely hope all of you will step back, look at reason, the logistics of the situation, and stop your childish behavior, which is worse than Novak’s adolescent utterances.


YY Says:

Von,

Your statements about ingrates seem to imply that the anti-American remarks are coming from immigrants in the USA. A bit presumptuous right? The Internet is international and not just available to the US.

Let me state that I am not anti-American but I can see why America is “hated” by many and I also do feel that many American’s are not savvy to the bigger world out there.

American values are not universal and while there are many positives, there is still a need to respect that others come from a totally different culture and background where those values cannot be appreciated.

Personally, am just amused by all this bitching and bashing that has resulted from this match :P

As for all the others here who go by amusing names, I wonder who the real retards are ;)

Looking forward to the semis now! Let’s move on YEAH!


Polo Says:

Djokovic feels that the crowd never takes his side no matter who he plays. I thinks he really wants to be liked by fans. He knows that the US Open crowd would be solidly cheering for Roddick, the last American guy at the Open. And for Roddick to ridicule him by implying that Nole is faking injuries to even bolster crowd support must have irked him terribly. Novak was correct in saying that it was not nice of Roddick to make such pronouncements for all to hear prior to the match. Roddick was trying to psyche him out and get fan support for that too. I don’t blame Novak for his comments. I blame Roddick for his comments. Now, Roddick is saying it was all done in jest. Jest or not, it was a rude to do that. Roddick’s loss to Novak is his just reward.


YY Says:

I hope the winner will be from the Nadal/Murray semi… a lot more LOVE there ;)
haha


NachoF Says:

YY,

Hey, its not like Murray hasnt been involved in conflicts with other players… remember that time when he and Del Potro started arguing between games??… Del Potro even said something about Murray’s mom! and he was like “are you gonna say jokes about me ma!?” (something like that haha)… I hope the winner is either Roger or Rafa… A LOT MORE LOVE THERE.


YY Says:

NachoF…

I thought they made up after the QF match? That’s y i said more love :)

Still rooting for Nadal, but on form an upset is possible.

And should Murray get to the final, being a Nadal fan, the least of all evils is for Murray to win his first GS and allow Nadal to pull further ahead with the other 3 with points closer to each other to makes the fight for no.2 interesting ;)


The Oracle Says:

Let me make my point clear. Both Jelena Jankovic and Novak Djokovic have been accused in recent times of displaying an array of dramatics. Indeed both are emotional and project their feelings, in the good times and in the bad. They both lack the ice-cold psychological approach, eliminating emotions that some of the top players, including Federer, seem to have a handle on doing (it seems to do the trick in staying focused and winning). Serb’s are very spirited, warm people, emotional, and have strong character. Though they may have been direct and vocal about their ambitions and have certainly not hidden their desire to reach No.1 and stay there (at least for a while), they are still extremely humble and not afraid to crack a joke or two. Tennis has for a very long time lacked people that have personalities or that can connect with an audience on an emotional level, and genuinely charm them. Novak’s impersonations are harmless, for laughs and yes, he still is only 21. It’s unfortunate that the US players and spectators have to resort to off-court politics and booing, as in doing so, they are only acknowledging their own inferiority – and I mean that on every possible level.


zola Says:

NachoF
I think Del Potro apologized to Murray at the bet. they are fine now.

YY
I agree. if for some reason ( and I hope not) Rafa loses to Murray, I wish for Murray to win the US Open. That will be great for everyone and Murray will get his first GS title. In fact if he gets to the final, I give him some chances. He has beaten Djoko the last two times they met and I think he won Fed too.

But I wish for Rafa to win the match over Murray and win the US Open too!


S Green Says:

that matt,
My apology to you.


NachoF Says:

YY,
Hmm, didnt know they did…. interesting.
Anyway, I understand that… myself, being a Fed fan Im hoping Murray beats Nadal just because hes getting away in the ranks!… I havent done the numbers yet but on TV they have mentioned that Roger still has a chance of catching Nadal before the end of the year but even if he doesnt, I find a battle for no.1 infinitely much more interesting than for no.2…. we’ll see what happens


JCF Says:

I’m beginning to suspect that it isn’t the real SG that is posting as ‘S Green’. Could someone be using his screen name to give him a bad name?

He sounds completely out of character from the guy I’ve had intelligent discussions with in the past.

The name calling from him in the last few days has been very immature and is a sign of someone who can’t defend his player on his own merits and has no recourse but to resort to name calling.

If this is the real you SG, then I’ve lost a lot of respect for you. I don’t care what you think about me — I’m not going to let it bother me. It’s very surprising to see Djoker critics bother you like this. I would have thought you were better than this. Why let people get you so hot and upset? Whenever people criticize me, call me names, or criticize someone or something that I like, I never take it personally or get incensed. A very long ago, perhaps I did. Now I just take it on the chin. It’s part of growing up. Even as a kid, I was bullied and picked on every day, but I never paid them any attention or cared. I just didn’t want to give them the satisfaction of seeing me hurt or offended. They never bothered me at all.

There are always going to be people who don’t like you, or have opinions you feel strongly against. I think it’s time you stepped back a bit and took things in stride.


zola Says:

Oracle,
I don’t think it is a Serb-American thing. Any other two players could have gotten into a misunderstanding like this. Look at del Potro and Murray….

It would have been better if Roddick did not say those words and it would have been better if Djoko did not say those words to the crowd either. He could have waited till his presser or just did not react. But I think he was hurt by Andy’s remark in front of the crowd and he wanted to respond right there.

It is over now. they both apologized and have apparently talked to each other…but I am sure it will become a classic.
seems


Gordo Says:

An interesting thing to come out of all of this will be the New York fan mentality which will make both Federer and Djokovic feel like they are playing a Davis Cup match… in Switzerland!!!!

Already totally warmed up to Federer and his new outbursts of true emotions, don’t think the boisterous Big Apple folks are not going to root heartily for Federer to win the semi in straight sets. Djokovic is the new target for the crowd’s venom, and a day or two is not going to change that.

Can Federer then deliver? It is interesting to see how Djokovic is showing Federer a ton of respect, and is playing himself as the underdog.

It sets the stage for great drama – as long as Federer doesn’t deliberatly bean Djokovic’s mother if she acts up it should be rather civil between the 2 athletes, but the New York crowd – now that will be interesting to see and hear.

This will be a pivotal match – either Federer gains redemption for the Aussie Open loss, and heads into the final feeling he has a good chance against Rafa or Djokovic shows that he indeed deserves to be an equal partner in the trio of the best.

Let the fun begin.


JCF Says:

Dusan Says:

“Yeah I’m sure Nole cares so much for the US fans that booed him. There is a reason he is so pumped when he faces Americans, that’s what bombs being dropped on him and his family and friends for 4 months does.”

Just a correction. It wasn’t Americans that dropped bombs on his country, it was NATO. America is no doubt a key member of NATO, but it was a congregation of several countries involved in the bombing.

You can’t really expect his President to have done the things he did unopposed and to get away with it forever. Were NATO really terrorists bombing innocent people?

I remember opposing the bombing passionately at the time. I was a pacifist. But looking back, I realised that pacifism doesn’t work. Leaving them alone would not have been an alternative.

‘Pacifism is generally considered to be a morally unassailable position to take with respect to human violence. The worst that is said of it, generally, is that it is a difficult position to maintain in practice. It is almost never branded as flagrantly immoral, which I believe it is.
While it can seem noble enough when the stakes are low, pacifism is ultimately nothing more than a willingness to die, and to let others die, at the pleasure of the world’s thugs. It should be enough to note that a single sociopath, armed with nothing more than a knife, could exterminate a city full of pacifists. There is no doubt that such sociopaths exist, and they are generally better armed.’
-Sam Harris


Bojan Says:

“mem Says:

say what you want but djokovic has a need to be liked.”

Well, if this was true, Novak wouldn’t be saying what he did tonight, dont you think?

And please stop making this US-Serbia issue.. this is tennis, not politics!


Lenny Says:

Sheesh. I come here thinking this site is about the tennis. I don’t CARE who said what to whom on whose turf. I’m just a fan who cares what happens out there on the court. So, could we cut the nationalist jingoism people and just get back to the tennis?


jane Says:

Andy and Novak’s post-match pressers were both excellent. Both said they are keeping what’s been said between them, between them. Both apologized, more so Djokovic, but also explained their positions. Both discussed the matches effectively. And both are self-aware young champions: Andy already, Novak working on it.

Glad to see they can rise above it. Glad Novak acknowledged his regret for speaking out in that context. I actually like Novak’s candidness & personality, as I’ve mentioned, I just think there’s a time and place for airing grievances.

I hope he can get to the final or at least give Roger a test.

I think we will have a couple of good semis – hope so.


Gordo Says:

C’mon, Lenny – this is tennis-x, and the x marks the lobotomy scar on some of these bloggers.

And c’mon everyone – The top 4 seeded players in the world (Murray climbs to #4 no matter what on Monday) have made the finals of the last Grand Slam of the year – this is supposed to be about tennis – let’s celebrate these four men’s accomplishments this past week and a half, and may the best man winning his next two matches hold the championship trophy proudly and deservedly.

We are in here because we love tennis, and in Rafa, Fed, the Djoker and the Scot we have 4 dudes who can deliver it brilliantly.

Let’s put aside who said what to who and who impersonated who and who’s country was at war with who’s and let’s get down to the brilliance of the matches.

Okay?


jane Says:

Gordo – well said. Kudos.


Leftykick Says:

Jane,

Ditto!

I predict a Murray Djokovic final.

It will be good for Andy to have the crowd on his side again. I was surprised at the booing he was getting against JMDP?


JCF Says:

Mary,

“With Freedom of Speech comes freedom of listeners to react in whatever way they want to your speech.”

I really agree with this line. However…

“Thanks for the encouraging words. I’m so torn up inside by the filth I see spoken here towards the Americans. I have 2 American born children and I’m damned mad that they will have to deal with these ingrates who live off and suck this Country for all they can take. I work for this country and am proud to be a Federal employuee and would glorify sticking their asses in jail any damn day. You’re right, I don’t think my children will give a sh*t, but I do, because I’d be sick inside to see them have to live knowing that hate is genuine and it exists. it’s not a word that i like to use. Hate kills. ”

Would you really lock people up for exercising their right to free speech that your constitution offers? I don’t believe in hate crime legislation. It’s not very practical to enforce.


JCF Says:

Hopefully we can return to actual tennis discussion now.

Wouldn’t it be sweet if Federer could get his revenge on both Djokovic and Nadal to win the US Open? Not only would it redeem him and allow him to avoid a slamless year, he also returns to the favor to the two guys that foiled him in the other three slams this year. It will put him well into contention for a three-way battle for the top spot in 2009. This would be more exciting than one guy staying at #1 while the next three battle for 2nd place as it was for the past 4 years.

If he doesn’t win the Open, it will be Nadal and Djokovic talked about next year (unless Murray wins it) and Fed will be forgotten, which would be an injustice. The more people there are that have realistic chances at winning slams the less predictable and thus more interesting it will be to follow.

Whoever of the 4 wins it, I’ll be happy for them. Murray needs it so he can join their club at the top which has been exclusive for a while. At the moment his achievement is about level with Davydenko — 1 AMS, no slam finals.

Djoker needs it so he can tie Nadal and surpass Federer for #2, plus he has a lot to prove seeing as he’s picked up a lot of critics. He will also shed the one-slam-wonder label.

Fed needs it to salvage his season and remain a force, and remain in the hunt to regain his ranking.

And Nadal needs it so he can do something incredible — three slams on different surfaces and an opportunity to complete a ‘Rafa slam’ next year. And also to silence naysayers who say fast hard courts are his weakest surface. I’ve never believed this to be the case. No one has even mentioned his knees or high ball bounce yet (or even the speed of the courts!) in this Open, as were the customary dismissals of his chances.

Three scintillating matches to go.


Del Torri Says:

And people wonder why I am not a regular at this website…(referring to the first wave of comments in this thread, and also those following his win over Robredo)

I will let Nole’s words speak for themselves. And I fully believe in what he says – an accurate reflection of his character which SO many people misunderstand.

***
Q. “We can be surprised by your way of playing. One day you’re limping, the other you are not limping. So can you understand that?”

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: “No, I can’t understand that. The thing is you don’t understand that in the middle of the match, you are trying to get yourself the best as possible. It doesn’t mean that if I’m inviting a doctor to the court or physio that I’m dying, you know?

I’m having a problem, with the ankle, okay. I felt the pain in that certain moment, and I just want to make sure that everything is all right. That’s all.

I mean, and then the big story comes out of it, and then suddenly I’m a bad guy, you know.”

Q. “So you feel like you deserve more respect for the person and player you were?”

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: “Look, I just ‑‑ I just think that this should be reduced. That’s all.

“I mean, I’m not asking for it, you know ‑‑ you guys do whatever you need to do. You do whatever you feel you need to do. But it’s just that I don’t want to make excuses, you know. There is a lot of players, you know, they come and they make excuses. I’m not one of them. I don’t need to make excuses, you know, why is my leg injured, why is my back injured. It’s not me.”

Source: [http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2008-09-04/200809041220503132296.html ]
***


Del Torri Says:

Also – thanks for saying hi, jane; and JCF, thanks for your comments in the other thread on my post, I understand your viewpoint somewhat better now, although I don’t have the ‘expectations’ that Djokovic should do this and that, that almost everyone else seems to have. I just love to watch him play tennis!


NachoF Says:

Del Torri Says:

“And people wonder why I am not a regular at this website.”

What do you mean by “people”??… also, who are you?


John Says:

Roddick acts like an ‘a’ hole jumping around like he’s on speed , smashing his raquet & blowing his mouth off , he is an embaresment to the USA


GM Says:

“Don’t count your chickens before they hatch”
Some of you are already giving the title either to djoko,federer and nadal

But murray has a lot to say…

Having said this I think Nadal is going to win,but i think is going to be a very tough match and murray has a lot of chances.


Miss Manners Says:

S Green Says:

Savage,
You need to calm down. I am requesting you, please.

Nice, you say please now. Too bad you were the mouthiest mouth in the bunch at the top of the page.


anne Says:

Novak is a wonderful young man. He is bright and spirited and loves to have fun…he doesnt hide his emotions and tells it like it is…not always an asset in todays press hungry world where words get blown out of proportion and competitors with fragile egoes abound…i really enjoyed his impersonations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYA_7RUSarU)I get fits of laughing every time i watch this utube …and am sad he has stopped..but he stopped when he realized not all the players were amused…this is a young lad growing up (most of us would still be in college at 21)and learning along the way…and why does everyone forget what a tough competitive business professional tennis is? Of course he’s stressed out, and irritable at unwanted remarks hinting he is FAKING his injuries..which player wouldnt be offended? That he spoke his mind in front of the US crowd against an American player shows two things….he has balls and is unafraid but also that he is very young and needs to learn to reign in his impulses.

He already has apologized and given Andy the benefit of doubt in his later press conference..and Im all for this breath of fresh air and bundle of fun from Serbia. Go Novak!


Polo Says:

To JCF: What are you talking about?

1. How can Federer be forgotten? Even he does not win a single match from now on, he has done so much for tennis and has one of the most impressive achievements in tennis that will be a measuring stick for any tennis player for a long time. He will never be forgotten in the world of tennis.

2. How can you consider Djokovic a 1-slam wonder when it has not even been a year since he won one? And he is only 21 and very much still in the thick of things. That one-slam wonder should be tagged on Rodddick who has not won another since 2003 and quite likely never will have another one. He may not even reach another slam final again.

2.


Polo Says:

About Djokovic mimicking other players. He used to do that privately while practicing. It was not meant to be for showing to the public on TV. At last year’s open, the commentator made he do it and he simply obliged. He realized that it was rather improper to do that so he stopped doing it. I saw another tournament where another commentator was egging him to do it again but Novak declined and said he does not want to do it anymore because some players get offended. I have seen Roddick does imitations of other players also. It was shown on Tennis Channel. I guess they were not good enough and he has not won any big tennis tournaments so nobody has bothered to ask him to do it on TV. Then Roddick had the temerity to comment negatively on Novak’s impersonation last year.

Roddick did not really apologize about his comments about Novak’s illness. He said, “It was completely meant in jest. I should know better. But listen, I joke all the time. I don’t think anyone in their right mind takes me serious.” He also added, “I don’t think I was over the line.” Those words do not sound apologetic to me. They are quite insulting to imply that since Novak was offended, he must be out of his mind.

But those are just words from Roddick. What matters most in the end is who won. He can continue to talk because that is what he seems to be mainly good at at this point in his tennis career.


zola Says:

Apart from the drama, there is an interesting point in the Djoko-Roddick match.

Roddick skipped the olympics, with the hope of doing well in the US Open. Up to yesterday it seemed it worked for him. But he was not playing at all for the first two sets. Djoko had more Aces than him. He could have taken it to 5 and I think he could have taken the match, but it did not happen and Roddick’s run ended at the QF of the US Open.

This is unfortunate, because now he has missed the olympics and he said how much he wanted to be there and even with the best prep he could, his run ended at the QF.

This was the best chance for Roddick to win another slam. A fast court and home crowd. I wish he did not say anything and concentrated on his tennis and maybe he could have had a chance this year. next year with all these young guns coming up, I don’t even see him in the top 10.

Djoko-Federer would be interesting. My guess is that the crowd will be very pro-Fed and Djoko will try to prove himself one more time. I think Roddick really did him a favor by giving him emotional fuel at a time when he was running on empty.


zola Says:

Polo,
I think what Roddick meant was that Djoko used to do a lot of jokes about other players himself and thus should not be offended by Roddick’s joking about him.


Ryan Says:

To zola, JCF, Von, NachoF

I think finally djokovic wants some peace from all the drama thats been goin down……in the interview he was like fed is the absolute favourite and stuff like that giving fed some respect and credit…during previous times he tried to give a few challenging comments to fed by saying that players are scared of him and he is not as good as people say he is and he wont overtake sampras and stuff like that.Its a good sign that djok has made amends with fed and respects fed now.Maybe he realised that fed is a nice guy after all coz he kept saying that djok and him get along well even when djok was taking a few jabs at him.


Polo Says:

zola says:

“I think what Roddick meant was that Djoko used to do a lot of jokes about other players himself and thus should not be offended by Roddick’s joking about him.”

I would not argue with your comment. It sounds quite logical to me.


Guga76 Says:

I love Novak. He has proven he has mad tennis skills, mental fortitude only known to those growing up in war-torn countries and now guts to stand up for himself. I appreciate that he’s a sensitive guy, he wants people to “get” him rather than criticize him. Just wish he was able to use a different tone in his voice. Don’t piss off the NY crowd. They might cheer for Andy, but that doesn’t mean they pay attention to his pre-match jokes. You’ve got a long career ahead of you Novak – make it fun for yourself and you’ll see that more fans will join you for the ride!


anon Says:

‘How Soft is Novak?’ tennisx just answered their own question: very soft. The man who gained popularity by making jokes had lost it because he couldn’t take one in stride.


anon Says:

Novak’s crybaby act is a disgrace to all of Serbia.


Colin Says:

I wish people would stop saying Djokovich can make jokes but not take them. Roddick was NOT joking, even if he now claims he was. Read what he said – it was a straightforward accusation of faking. If Novak could have the strength to do it, I’d like to see him go through his whole career antagonising stupid crowds and winning. I know I am in a small minority, but I believe tennis should be about tennis, not personalities.
Until a couiple of years ago, who was said to be the GOAT? Sampras. How much personality did he ever show? Who, for a long time next appeared to be the GOAT? Federer. He has usually been pretty poker-faced on court.
On-court interviews were a stupid innovation, brought in to encourage the tabloid-minded obsession with personality.
End of rant.


Vulcan Says:

Given his personality and previous run-ins with other players its a safe bet that Roddick was not joking when he exaggerated Novak’s ailments during the press conference with the intention of publicly questioning Djokovic’s integrity.

If you pay close attention to things Roddick does it quickly becomes apparent whose integrity should be on the line. There are many examples one could cite but just off the top of my head take the Gulbis match…where, when Gulbis waited until after he hit a shot to challenge…Roddick complained arguing that Gulbis waited too long to challenge…later Roddick did the exact same thing…it seems he has one standard for himself and another for everyone else.

As far as Djokovic’s impersonations go…they are hilarious…and I believe done with only the best of intentions. There is absolutely no comparison between Djokovic’s impressions and what is said at a Press conference.


JCF Says:

Polo Says:

To JCF: What are you talking about?

“1. How can Federer be forgotten? Even he does not win a single match from now on, he has done so much for tennis and has one of the most impressive achievements in tennis that will be a measuring stick for any tennis player for a long time. He will never be forgotten in the world of tennis.”

Forgotten was perhaps the wrong word. What I should have said was ‘written off’. If you read all the blogs and expert analyses of who would win the US Open, you’ll find that Federer was not favorite for the title. TX bloggers did not pick him to win, nor did Wertheim, Cronin, or Pete Bodo. The guy is the 4 time defending champion. He has owned the place. Winning here would make sure he’s always considered a contender for slams.

“2. How can you consider Djokovic a 1-slam wonder when it has not even been a year since he won one? And he is only 21 and very much still in the thick of things. That one-slam wonder should be tagged on Rodddick who has not won another since 2003 and quite likely never will have another one. He may not even reach another slam final again.”

Once again, a bad choice of words. What I should have said was winning here would put him on the list of people who have won more than one slam. A list which includes Federer, Nadal, Safin, and Hewitt.

After reading the tone of my message, do you really think I was being disparaging of Djokovic or Federer?


Voicemale1 Says:

As long as everyone’s weighing-in on all the off court drama, let’s not forget that the Federer – Djokovic Semi Final won’t be a lovefest either. After Mama Djokovic started proclaiming Federer a Dead King after Australia, and Djokovic’s comments about a “worried” Federer prior to Wimbledon, this Semi between them could turn into something brutal. Unlike the Djokovic clan, Federer prefers to silently exact his revenge on people with his racquet on the court. By the way, anyone catch the Ted Robinson story on USA’s broadcast of Papa Djokovic? Seems “dad” was home listening to the Hamburg tournament on Serbian Radio and decided the radio commentators were not favoring Djokovic enough in their commentary, so Srdjan drove down to the radio station and read them the riot act because of it!! To Pops, the commentary was too much about the match – and not enough about how brilliant Novak is, regardless – which he thinks is what should have been broadcast LOL!! Most of the minute sympathy I have for Djokovic surrounds having an idiot like that as his dad LOL! It’s no mystery where Novak’s communication struggles come from :)

But back to the on court drama :) …

Djokovic played outstanding tennis last night, doing what all Top 10 types have done to Roddick over the last few years: neutralize his serve and expose the gaps in his movement & backhand. Novak returned serve better than he ever has. The problem was his 3rd Set lapse, spraying errors seemingly out of nowhere, donating the break with 3 straight UFE’s. He was helped in return by Roddick’s choke in the 4th Set’s 10th Game, when Roddick served for the set, had 30-love, and followed with a forehand error & two straight Double Faults. The break was then secured when Novak hit a perfect lob, and essentially sealed Roddick’s fate right there.

Given how Federer flipped only 1 of 11 Break Chances against qualifier Muller yesterday, I’d say Djokovic is playing slightly better going into this one. But a lapse like that against Federer and Djokovic will be on his way home. Federer is gonna have to step it up. Making his Semi even more loaded with pressures is the aftermath of the outcome. If Djokovic wins the title, Federer will actually fall to #3 come Monday. If his fans had a tough time seeing a #2 next to Federer’s name on a draw sheet, imagine what they’ll feel seeing a #3 there.

There are valid reasons to be suspect about Nadal’s chances to win it all. That said, there is an interesting factoid about the Semis. Nadal has a winning H2H against the other 3 Semi Finalists. And not just a winning H2H, but a lopsidedly winning H2H. Nadal is 5-0 vs. Murray, 10-4 vs. Djokovic, and 12-6 vs. Federer. And this too: Nadal has beaten all three of them on all three surfaces, doing so to both Murray (Hamburg, Wimbledon & Toronto) and Djokovic (Hamburg, Paris, Queens & Beijing) this year. He last played Federer on a hard court in Shanghai last year, but Federer isn’t anywhere near that level today. Given that Rafa these days is playing well and is healthy, the 5 Set Format helps him more than the others. This might be Rafa’s best chance to hoist the US Open trophy.


JCF Says:

Vulcan Says:

“Given his personality and previous run-ins with other players its a safe bet that Roddick was not joking when he exaggerated Novak’s ailments during the press conference with the intention of publicly questioning Djokovic’s integrity.”

Roddick was joking about the 16 injuries, with Sars, bird flu, cough and cold, anthrax and all that.

But he wasn’t (d)joking when he said “Either he’s quick to call the trainer, or he’s one of the most courageous guys out there. That’s up for you to decide.”

His position was implicit and clear. He is presenting a dichotomy where the latter is ridiculous, and implying that it has to be the former. If it was a joke, he would have worded that differently.

I like him for it none the less, because he’s a quick witted and entertaining guy, Roddick. And so if Djokovic, so for me, this match delivered everything you could have asked for. I guess Djokovic played a lot better than Roddick thought he would. I too was guilty of underestimating him.


Vulcan Says:

Oh yeah hes quick witted alright…just watch this to see what a genius he is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff6_UTPDO9s


JCF Says:

“If Djokovic wins the title, Federer will actually fall to #3 come Monday. If his fans had a tough time seeing a #2 next to Federer’s name on a draw sheet, imagine what they’ll feel seeing a #3 there.”

I don’t want to see Federer as #3, because a Fed vs Rafa semi-final is just unthinkable now, after all the classic finals they’ve given us, especially at Wimbledon.

“There are valid reasons to be suspect about Nadal’s chances to win it all. That said, there is an interesting factoid about the Semis. Nadal has a winning H2H against the other 3 Semi Finalists. And not just a winning H2H, but a lopsidedly winning H2H. Nadal is 5-0 vs. Murray, 10-4 vs. Djokovic, and 12-6 vs. Federer. And this too: Nadal has beaten all three of them on all three surfaces, doing so to both Murray (Hamburg, Wimbledon & Toronto) and Djokovic (Hamburg, Paris, Queens & Beijing) this year. He last played Federer on a hard court in Shanghai last year, but Federer isn’t anywhere near that level today. Given that Rafa these days is playing well and is healthy, the 5 Set Format helps him more than the others. This might be Rafa’s best chance to hoist the US Open trophy.”

Great point. I didn’t realize that. But the important thing now is hard court H2H.

Nadal is 3-4 against Novak on hard courts, and 2-3 against Federer on hard. There’s not much in it, but they have a slight edge on him. Federer is a better player than Nadal outside of clay, but Nadal is also a better player outside of clay than Federer is on clay (at least against each other). If that didn’t make enough sense, Federer is not as good on other surfaces as Nadal is on clay. He hasn’t dominated Nadal outside of clay as Nadal has dominated him on clay. You could argue that this is because they haven’t met enough times outside of clay, but I don’t believe it would have been the case even if they did.

Despite the lopsided H2H’s, I don’t find him an overwhelming favorite against Murray or Federer. I did believe a few days ago that he would be a safe bet against Djokovic, but yesterday’s performance against Roddick has changed my mind. Djoker has proven me wrong before, and he certainly will again.


zola Says:

I did not have fun when Djoko did Rafa’s impersonation on court last year.

and I can understand if a Djoko fan can be hurt by Roddick’s “16-injuries” comment. Joke or not.

I think personality is good, but does not necesserily mean involving other players. A fist pump, Monfils’s dance, Tsonga’s jumps, even Murray’s rants to himself, these, nobody minds because they do not target other players.

I don’t think Roddick’s words are equal to the impersonations. The impersonation did not imply any accusations. Roddick’s words ( said twice), did and I can understand if Djoko is hurt by them, even if it was a joke.

so, maybe jokes or personalities, better not involve other players.


zola Says:

JCF

just in the line of your discussion:

Rafa’s first match with Fed was on hard and Rafa was 17, in 2004 and Rafa won Roger 6-3, 6-3, broke his 46 match win streak. He has won Roger on hard in Dubai as well and lost to him twice in Shanghai and once in Miami.

Roger has beaten Rafa on clay only once, in HAmburg.


Vulcan Says:

Zola, about Djokovic’s impressions and Rafa…you have to keep in mind the timing…Rafa was a bit sensitive about his pulling down on his pants after the way that rude swedish player (I forget his name) mocked him at Wimbledon and the crowd there seem to go along with it. Im sure its a habit Nadal would like to break so hes a bit sensitive about it. Djokovic did his impression at USO after Wimbledon so by that point..again…Nadal may have not been too thrilled about it. (this of course is if you believe what the USA network commentators said about Rafa taking offense). Anyway, check out some of the Youtube videos of Djokovic impersonating other players…like Rubin Ramirez-Hidalgo…they are great and done in total fun and without one sliver of animosity…the guy is a real character…yes a bit cocky but that goes with the territory.


Bandit Says:

djokovic showed great heart in front of the new york crowd(who btw cheered and jeered during his service motions like typical new york alcoholic fans will do) and roddick dug his own grave when he talked his trash in the press conference and couldnt back it up. i have been extra excited during this us open over the new resurgance of roger federer. the fist pumping, yelling, screaming and the fire burning in his eyes to shut up all his tennis pundits who have written him off. he can do it but nadal looks to still be the favorite eventhough he has never won a major on hardcourt. a gold medal is sweet and an accomplish of great reward and honor itself but tennis champions are all about the majors and everyone with a pulse knows it.


Vulcan Says:

Yelling out during a players service motion is one of the the most discourteous things a fan can do at a tennis match. I cant remember the last time I saw it happen so many times. (of course it never happened during Roddick’s serve)


zola Says:

Vulcan,
Oh, I love his impersonations. He is really good at them. I watched them on youtube last year and even posted links on the sites I was commenting on. it just was not good to see it on-court in a GS. and maybe if the pant-picking part was not included, I could have tolerated it. Imagine someone coming on court, stuttering to have fun about Ivo. Rafa’s is a tick. He is 22 and he is sensitive about it and I agree that after Wimbledon it was even worse. But Rafa never said anything about it. even in his pressers, he said he did not see them and if the crowd likes it, then so be it.

I have seen other clips from him. He is absolutely hilarius. there is one when Antonio Banderas visits Rafa in FO and Djoko is doing desporado in the background…


Vulcan Says:

Zola, I distinctly remember the USA commentators mentioning that “some” of the players were not happy with Djokovic’s impressions…but they never said explicitly who it was. But they did seem to convey the impression that it was Rafa who was not happy about it…but again…who knows what the objective of the media was…my guess would be that in typical fashion they were trying to incite controversy.


JCF Says:

I used to think Nadal’s undies were giving him wedgies and he was picking his undies. Upon closer inspection, he’s actually not. He’s picking the shorts, and there is no apparent purpose for doing this.

I can only conclude that it is habitual (we’ve all had bad habits before, such as scratching or twisting some joint back and forth) like how some players fidget with a lot of things (hair, collar, strings, shoelaces, necklaces, etc..). He has a lot of these rituals between points. Perhaps it helps him think, I don’t know. Even at changeovers, everything has to be perfect for him.

I noticed that he has learnt a lot from Hewitt, which is unfortunate. Hewitt also had a lot of quirks but he is likely focusing his concentration on something. What I was surprised to see is that after Nadal beat Fish, he did that ‘lawnmower’ thing that has been a trademark of Hewitt’s, and I was disappointed to see it. I always found it a disrespectful sight for his opponents. To me it’s very in-your-face and I wish Nadal wouldn’t do it. I haven’t seen him do that before until now. He normally just punches the air once, and he’ll fall to the ground on his back if he just won the title.

He had better not start doing the Vicht. Hewitt is a guy whose antics I have not liked, and the less Nadal copies him, the better.

Djokovic’s attitude doesn’t bother me. He should just think carefully about what he says and realize that even though his attitude is a refreshing breath of air, there are always going to be some people who will find his comments improper. He should choose the right time and place to say them. I have absolutely no qualms with what he said after the match on court. I didn’t feel he crossed the line. But he shouldn’t have said it in front of 23,000 americans. He should have saved it for the press room. He needs to be able to sense when someone is trying to bait him and not give in.


anon Says:

Yelling out during a players service motion is one of the the most discourteous things a fan can do at a tennis match. I cant remember the last time I saw it happen so many times. (of course it never happened during Roddick’s serve)

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Are you new to tennis? this happens alot in many tournaments especially slams when it gets intense. They yelled during Roddick’s serving too.


JCF Says:

Vulcan Says:

“Yelling out during a players service motion is one of the the most discourteous things a fan can do at a tennis match. I cant remember the last time I saw it happen so many times. (of course it never happened during Roddick’s serve)”

I saw it the other night when Rafa was serving to Fish. The point was stopped and the offender was removed from the premises. Other americans in the audience pointed him out. Great job. And Fish was also not pleased even though the guy was trying to help him. He folded his arms in annoyance and waited. All credit to him. He is a nice guy and a likable person. It’s a pity he had to lose.


Vulcan Says:

Your comments seem to indicate that you think Lleyton Hewitt invented the word “comeon”.
The “lawnmower” thing you mentioned has likewise been around for ages.

As far as Hewitts offensive on court demeanor…its all about how and when you do things. Hewitt often yells comeon after a long rally which ends in an error from his opponent while Nadal celebrates after a brilliant shot…big difference.


zola Says:

JCF
Rafa has done that many times. It was nothing new. and he doesn’t do it to oend the other guy. It is his way of celebrating a point for himself. I think I saw it in cincy against Murry and many other instances.

as I said, these are antics that a spectator may or may not like it. I don’t like Djoko takes of his shirt to celebrate or when he looks to the crowd with anger, but these are personal things. very different to mimicking a guy’s tick on the court or talking about his injuries.

Vulcan
I think Rafa was obvioudly not happy anout it. They asked him on many occasions. You can tell by the way his face becomes all serious and then he says he did not see them, but if the fans like it then he has no objection.

the media is always trying to stir things. look at the questuions they ask in the presseres. X said this about you , what do you think and then take that to X and say: did you hear what Y said about you? ….


Vulcan Says:

anon Says:

Are you new to tennis? this happens alot in many tournaments especially slams when it gets intense. They yelled during Roddick’s serving too.

I dont know what planet you come from but this is very uncommon…maybe youre thinking about yelling out BETWEEN 1st and 2nd serves…which is also rude but to a lesser degree and far more common.


zola Says:

I missed that point by Fish. Great gesture by him.

I can’t say too bad he lost. Rafa was way better. But I wish him luck in the other tournaments. He knows he has the game. just needs to be consistent.


Vulcan Says:

Fish, when he is on, has one of the most fluid and potent games on the tour. I would say that the only person that makes the game look easier is Federer.


zola Says:

I saw Fish playing only a few times. He was impressive in this US Open, but the one I really like is Gulbis.

Some say he is just cracking the ball, but he is very powerful and makes those shots with relative ease. He just needs to be tougher mentally. I don’t know how he lost to Roddick.


grendel Says:

a number of people have commented on Federer’s changed demeanour – the fist pumping, shouting, intense looks and so on. Some say they like it: that’s one thing. But it is also supposed to indicate a new Fed arising from the ashes, determined on revenge. Actually, I think the reverse is the case. When Federer was confident, he was ice cool. That’s not to say you have to be ice cool to be confident. When Roddick is confident, for example, he looks extremely intense and aggressive, and marches smartly around in between points and games. He started doing this yesterday during the third set, and I was astonished when he did those two nervous double faults – he had winner written all over him at that point.

When Roddick has this aggressive mien, it is very convincing, and it reflects in his play – quite apart from the serve which was suddenly rediscovered, he really did let us see some wonderful ground strokes for a set or so, and you do wonder where it all comes from – and where it all goes… But when Fed puts on the aggression, it just isn’t convincing; it seems to be a substitute for his, relative, lack of play. The day you see Fed play calmly again – if it ever comes – will be the day he has recaptured at least some of the old form.

Did Djokovic really cast himself as underdog for the forthcoming semi? Well, I am disappointed in him. I am not a great fan of his style of play (although I am a great admirer – different thing), but I appreciate his candour. Now he seems to have retreated into that disingenuous modesty which so many players go in for, simply to take the pressure off themselves.

Of course Djokovic has to be favourite, he is playing by far the more convincing tennis. Tennis at this very high level is surely about confidence, and Federer just does not have it. I do hope he can regain it, but if he does, it’s going to take time. That’s why, personally, I am not at all worried if he slips to #3. At least this will finally shock him into a fundamental reassessment of his game. And if that doesn’t work, well, at least he will have tried.

Meanwhile, I thought from Wimbledon onwards that Nadal was a cert for the US Open. It’s true, his draw has been even easier than Federer’s, so it’s a little hard to be certain where he’s at, but tiredness, with a mind as steely as his, was never going to kick in until it the business was done. imo, only Djokovic has a possibility of stopping him and, over 5 sets, that’s unlikely.


hiding behind our keyboards Says:

Von name-dropped me at 12:56 AM, Sept. 5th!!!
HEY, HEY, Von. You said it!

I suppose I’m in the most minor of minorities when I say that the post-match situation did not make me think any less of either player since I’ve never been a huge fan of those guys. Not a love/hate matter. Just interesting to take into account and keep in mind down the road.
I do think that maybe fewer people would have booed Djokovic had they known a little something about what Roddick had said about him, and Andy’s not the first player to ever comment negatively about Novak’s “pattern”. It would have been wiser for Novak to save his comments for the press interview. Andy would not have retaliated verbally until after leaving the court – because out there in front of everyone he knows he’s got to be Mr. Positivity. Booing spectators may not be as inclined to read post-match comments.

It’s interesting to see the public react negatively toward what’s perceived as hostile, yet they readily embraced hostility. Someone stuck a microphone in Djokovic’s face. He didn’t seek an audience to rant. He was asked to comment about his feelings on the match and his opponent. In his defense, I think he wanted to be candid in his words for the crowd’s benefit, and they turned on him.
So much double standard rests with the public as well, because people don’t like to think/admit they’re wrong though at times they may be.


hiding behind our keyboards Says:

grendel said:
“But when Fed puts on the aggression, it just isn’t convincing; it seems to be a substitute for his, relative, lack of play. The day you see Fed play calmly again – if it ever comes – will be the day he has recaptured at least some of the old form.”

I was thinking the same thing, but I’m also wondering if it’s something he’s going to hold onto until he reaches or surpasses Pete’s 14, just because he’s sort of close to the mark yet still barely out of reach. Realistically, he’s still young enough to raise his level again and win another three or even four majors.


jane Says:

A member of the crowd yelled out “MARDY” when Rafa was about to serve during the Mardy/Rafa match as well; that yeller was promptly escorted off the court by security and Mardy gave Rafa back 1st serve. They stopped the play immediately. That didn’t happen last night – they played through it all.

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Whether or not Fed wins a slam this year, he will probably come back forcefully next year. He doesn’t want to go away quietly, obviously, as his body language indicates, so that desire should drive him. It may not express confidence, but it shows he’s not one to fade away. Maybe the denial that seems apparent in him now is simply for the press.

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zola Says:

Jane,
I didn’t see that, but read about it. the difference was that Mardy reacted to that call. He did not play and the security had to get involved. It was not the case in Djoko’s match.


grendel Says:

“He doesn’t want to go away quietly, obviously, as his body language indicates, so that desire should drive him” – yes, but it’s desire compounded, among other things, of frustration and (when he wins a tight one) sheer relief. That’s all perfectly normal. My only point is that if he does approach his old standards again, I bet he’ll start going quiet again, too. As for whether the denial is “simply for the press”, well, I did throw out the thought earlier that he might not privately believe what he says in public. My own feeling is that, as usual, there are several things going on. Someone as accustomed to success as Federer has been, and who has clearly relished it (nothing out of the ordinary there), is not going to find it a straightforward matter to accept second best. That kind of instant honesty with yourself is – I suggest – quite unusual with anyone, very unusual with someone possessing the huge ego necessary to become a champion.


Von Says:

Well, so much has been written and so much to absorb and it seems like aeons since my last post.

First of all, I’d like to say hello to Hiding Behind our Keyboards. I sure missed your humorou and logical posts. I don’t know if you’ll believe this, but I did think of you when I wrote that — sort of a subconscious dedication to you. As I’ve mentioned in the past, yours is the most creative and appropos of names for this whole internet blogging experience, for which I could still consider myself a “newbie” only 9 months, However, it seems like years. But all in all, it’s been a huge eye-opening experience for me and I’ve learnt so much about how cruel and hateful people are, not to mention their lopsided and unrealistic thinking. My marketing courses on dichotomy fits very well into this whole scenatio, and it’s so true. Would you believe how vociferous some are ‘hiding behind their keyboards’ as compared to them facing another in one-to-one conversation. Most would be tongue-tied, with downcast eyes, yet they can be so outspoken to the point of revealing how miserable, hateful, unforgiving and cruel they are in their day to day lives. This site has provided much as a sort of conduit for phychological help. Go guys!!

Next, why am I not surprised to see the same Djoko hater from the AO this year trying to earn kudo points with the Djoko fans by ganging up on Roddick? As a newbie, I fell into the trap of that whole Djoko scenario and earned the wrath of some of Djoko’s fans by initially innocently agreeing with a point made by the present kudo earning poster, and that one comment led to rebuttals and answers, ad nauseam. I got hooked into a horrible scenario through my innocence. I wish I could take it all back, because I never disliked Djoko but, as I stated, fell into a trap/bait which I still do, at times on other things. That whole scene began with this site’s ‘director of criticisms to the 10th exponent’ — someone who thrives on criticizing every player save her own fantasy darling/sweetheart/man — the man in her fantasmic dreams, who could NEVER be her own. I bet she’d like to dig Xisca’s eyeballs out of her head. WHEW!! Must be so painful to live with this sort of thing. I can’t empathasize, because I’ve never had such an experience, but my psych books tells me it is a most painful, agonizing experience. Anyway, I learnt so much from that whole Djoko experience, and now that I see the sucking up taking place, it makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time. It’s the same with Federer, this person knocks him down to the ground on other sites, and from some old threads I’ve read have done so here on this site. Now hypocriticlly/vehemently defends him, fooling so many and earning so-called friends/attention, because Fed’s no longer No. 1 and the fantasy man is the No. 1 now. KEEP UP WITH THE POLITICKING and the Roddick bashing and assaults, it will get you far on this site. From what I’ve observed, blogging is this person’s profession – professional blogger on tennis, and an expert critic and game-player, becoming more expert on how to “gain friends and influence people” by the second. I very strongly doubt it, but I’m hoping in some small way, this poster read Dale Carnegie’s book, on “How to Gain Griends and Influence People”. I’m dumb-founded, flabbergasted, awe-struck and appalled, that people ae really and truly like this, even on a blogging site. WHEW!! A psychological need to be so popular, by stooping so low as to play games? WOW!!

Keep up with the Roddick bashing, Vulcan and Zola, it’s your source of sustenance, and it will take you both far. It just shows me and I hope many others, a vicious and unobjective side of your personality which is over the top, with hate. ENJOY!! I will probably offend some Nadal fans, which is not meant to be, but how about just helping the guy with his butt picking, eh? You call this a ‘classy” man? No way!! If I were a player, I’d damned hell NOT shake his hand after the match. And, stop talking about gmesmanship, h’s re-invented the word. That bathroom break after he lost the first set to Fish, was totally uncalled for, similar to calling for the trainer for the finger taping one second prior to beginning the MC match in ’06 against Fed. He broke Fed’s rhythm and made the guy angry, and he broke Fish’s rhythm two nights ago after the first set. But he is class personified with the time violations and the semantics with the towelling after every bloody point. Djoko being shirtless recently gave birth to the on-going stupid comments. Initially, I looked at the comment and thought to myself, what next, and how much more will I see this. Well, surprise, surprise, guess what, and get Vulcan, the Youtube expert to pull it up — watch Nadal’s shirtless display after the 2005 Rome final where he beat Coria. Now, make sure you find it — it will be an eye-opening experience. I hope this will shut you the hell up about Novak’s shirtless one second display forever — which is approximately 5 seconds.

When this Roddick bashing began AGAIN in Toronto for umpteenth time, with both barrels going from you two, I didn’t want to get involved, but the incessant chatter, was unbearable, and I took the bait. Then the personal attacks followed, about hysterics and everything else, with the gutless wonder, saying it’s obvious why I’m a Roddick fan, which was mentioned last night again, by Vulcan, insinuating I behave like Roddick — you two make a good duo. But Vulcan, and even though i don’t want to compliment you, I have no choice — from your writing you seem more intelligent than your counterpart, so what gives? I suppose your hate for Roddick outweighs your intelliogence. Guess what, if I’m like roddick and you can see why I’m his fan do, I’d take that as a compliment. Roddick is witty, charming, handsome and smart. He speaks the truth, not like Nadal who feigns incomprehension “no speaka the Englisha”, (sorry I don’t know Spanish), when he wants to get out of a jam with the interviewers. He’s been 8 bloody years on the tour, and still has comprehension with the English language? Gimme a break. The dumbest non-English speaking person could write a book in English for that duration of time — he’s faking it!! This is also the nice guy, who mentioned that the “Eastern European players are inferior to him”. I’m sorry folks, you’ll have to take my word on this, which is very credible as compared to most, I don’t have the proof, but I read it and it’s there. Nadal has many more flaws, which shows he’s human and not rungs up the ladder in class more than the other players, as his worshippers believe — some aren’t supporters anymore — they’ve graduated to worshippers — he’s god-like. In your dreams!!

Keep up the Roddick bashing and I’ll be mentioning every little Nadal niggle from henceforth. Both can play the game. Tt’s really not my personality, but I’m going to make a detour and if it makes me appear to be a bad person, whatever that is, or Roddick-like, so be it. As i’ve stated before, and i’ll say it again, i’m not running for the popularity and/or best personality, ms Congeniality award. I DON’T CARE IF I’M NOT LIKED. Hell, I receive compliemnts many times a day in my personal/work life. I don’t need to receive any compliments here, from faceless people. The smart ones will know the difference in my character, even though there is a minority of them here. I sure wish there were more Roddick supporters on this site to shut you both the hell up. Enjoy the Djokovic/Fed kudos by jumping on their bandwaggons, until the urge to criticize them is more overwhelming than keeping quiet hits you, which from my observation, could every few minutes. there’s an innate thing there to criticize. It’s bashers and worshippers like you who make me dislike some players. It’s nauseating. Rafa, Rafa, Rafa, Rafa, make a DVD and put it under your pillow — it will probably lull you to sleep, except the fantasies will keep you awake. LOL. Now you can both let oose and don’t hold back — you’re cpable. HOP/JUMP TO IT, BUT DON’T HURT YOURSELF IN THE ATTEMPT. GO RODDICK/USA!!!!


Mary Says:

Von: We are not allowed to call the precious bunnies out on any of their actions. I’m sure at some time in his career Fish had a gamesmanship issue himself, so that means it’s okay for every other player to do whatever the hell they want to on court.
They are all precious, so they can do what they want. Also, none of them dope no matter what the evidence. You know that the ATP/WTA would certainly go to the ends of the earth to uncover any evidence of cheating.
We have put them down to the same level as Madonna, Paris, Britney, et.al.
Thanks to us we have turned athletes into entertainers. The ATP/ITF play right into that, allowing them to ignore problems.


Mary Says:

“I’ll be mentioning every little Nadal niggle from henceforth.”

Great, Von, I’m sure some sort of signal went out to the internet fangirls as soon as that was posted. It will be Nadal Wankfest September ’08.


Von Says:

Mary:

“Great, Von, I’m sure some sort of signal went out to the internet fangirls as soon as that was posted. It will be Nadal Wankfest September ‘08.”

First of all, I’m not one for handing out phonney compliments, but I have to say for the short time I’ve interacted with you here, you’re one savvy/smart lady, who can call it when she sees it and can lsugh too, discern the fangirls’ politicking and worshipping. you’re my kind of person!!

I have always tried to be bigger than the nit-picing, and have been accused of brushing people’s comments aside, it’s not because I feel I’m better, but becuse I feel I’m bigger than the pettiness and refuse to sink tino the mire. However, since this Roddick bashing has been strengthened from primarily a single force, e.g., hurricaeHanna, to that of a duo, I’mg oing to try to be petty and pick on everything I see wrong with Nadal. But don’t hold me to it, I tire easily from pettiness and trivial pursuit — if you get what I mean. That, and the fact that there’s more to life than tennis, why bother. That said, you’ll probably see by tommorrow, I won’t even mention the butt-picker again. Too bad, because there’s so much humor here to last me a lifetime of laughs. What with the childish, incessant chatter and stupidly constructed off-the track language, which is killing my vocabulary BTW. I’ll now go over to the other thread, and do some nitpicking for laughs, so stick around and gobble up the fun. I’ll probably be accused of being insecure and following the Nadal fangirl (worshipper) around because according to her, who has care blance on everything, I’m “insecure”. Anyway, what the hell. BTW, thanks for the kindness of providing the :P


Von Says:

Mary:

“They are all precious, so they can do what they want. Also, none of them dope no matter what the evidence. You know that the ATP/WTA would certainly go to the ends of the earth to uncover any evidence of cheating>’

Yes, yes and yes. Objectivity is NIL. With regard to the dope testing, I had a caseload of 60 people and had at least 15 every week subjected to random testing by an out of stat lab, unbroken chain of custody, and nameless, just numbers. 8-10 went, and that was my red flag for zeroing in on the chief crooks. They were rotated and were tested at least 8 times a year, more than once every 3 months as was required. These people were sedentary not athletes. So plaese tell me how come there’s so little testing among the athletes? Show me the money!! It wouldn’t do for a famous athlete to be found on the dope list would it? Then there goes the ticket sales and tournament sponsors. The betting was a big smoke-screen for the ATP to prove to people they are on top of things. Very crafty indeed. Oh well, we’ll just have to live with it, but I don’t see/et/understand the illogic, do you?.


Skorocel Says:

grendel said:

“a number of people have commented on Federer’s changed demeanour – the fist pumping, shouting, intense looks and so on. Some say they like it: that’s one thing. But it is also supposed to indicate a new Fed arising from the ashes, determined on revenge. Actually, I think the reverse is the case. When Federer was confident, he was ice cool.”

———————————————-

EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS!!! Some people may like it, but I’m not happy at all to see it emanating from the Swiss – ESPECIALLY in a match versus guys like Muller… I mean, if a guy who has won 12 slams and has been ranked as a No. 1 player for 237 cons. weeks screams in joy after beating a qualifier, then something is wrong with Fed… And indeed, IT IS!

The guy simply ISN’T that confident anymore – and THAT’S WHY we’re actually witnessing all those sudden “outbursts” of joy from him… He just doesn’t believe in himself like he once did, so when he finally manages to play a decent shot or win an easy match nowadays, you could see him acting as if he has just won a grandslam or something…

When he was at his best, you could only rarely see something emotional from him (probably if we don’t count that stupid w(h)inning speach after the AO2006 win, that is), but nowadays, he often tends to get distracted either by chair umpires, Hawk Eye, or even the crowd, and is EVIDENTLY NERVOUS! You can clearly notice it when the camera views him shortly before returning the opponent’s serve – he is (almost everytime) unsure, sort of non-willing… As if he didn’t want to even stand on the court anymore… Simply, burnt out!

I mean, this is almost ridiculous! This guy used to beat literally the living daylights out of everyone except Nadal, and now he is happy to beat a qualifier?! Come on Roger, show them what are you still capable of!

I’ve said it already dozen times, but I’ll say it again: The guy needs an IMMEDIATE break from tennis, else he’ll be history in a flash! He’s completely spent – both physically and mentally! It’s more than evident that the game of tennis simply doesn’t bring him such joy as it did between 2004 and 2006… PLEEEASE Roger, get away from that tennis at least till the next season is underway, and return in full beauty! It’ll be an eternal shame if such a phenomenal player like you had to end like this…


Ezorra Says:

Seriously, Von, I’ve no idea at all why you’re soooo negative? Why Von? Why???

The way you talk about Nadal is like he is your enemy. He doesn’t even know you Von, trust me. Please realize that the one who might have problem with you is Nadal’s fan, not nadal himself.

One thing is, who the hell are you to decide whether nadal is sincere or not? You know nothing Von, nothing!

After listen to your comment recently, believe me, nobody will put any respect in you anymore. Your comments are complete of jealousy, anger and disappointment.

As Roddick’s fans, you have all rights to defense him in whatever he does but please take note. Defense doesn’t mean you have to attack other people, no? Some people (or some countries) may do that, but do you really think it’s fair? If so, I seriously think that there is something wrong with you, here and there but I don’t know where!

I’m getting fed-up with you man. At first, yes, I really respect with all your patriotism and stuffs you know. I believe that everyone should own that. But after a while, you’ve made me board with all your malicious comment towards someone that doesn’t even know you.

I’m Nadal’s fan, I admit it. But I do like Roddick as a very good player as well. I never turn him down like what you did to Nadal. Do you think it’s fair? It hurts me, you know. If you think others are doing the same to Roddick, just let them be… (But if you really want to put yourself at the same level with them, just continue in what you’re doing now) Remember, you always can criticize people but talking trash is the whole different thing… it just… different…

It’s not my intention to provoke you what so ever. In fact, before all your hateful comment towards Nadal, you’re one of my favorites here (jane, s green, zola and JCF are also in the list) because you’re always come out with a brilliant statistic and facts. It’s interesting, you know. But now….

Again, please don’t take this personally…


Mary Says:

Von: Look at the MS Masters Series Paris, take out three or four names, two are already in out-of-comp it does not matter.
Look at who is left. It’s the people that share a federation doctor. Think about big doping scandals. I’ve written about Puerto. Listen to the reporters and the other players.
The ITF and WADA play a game with sending a warning to those players, yet back off.
You saw what stringent testing has done to cycling.
The big sports in Europe are tennis and soccer- you don’t see those names coming out in a doping scandal, like you do cycling. Read Puerta’s comments about being the easy sacrifice. It’s like in baseball, just throw enough names out there. The head of the int’l cycling federation is pissed off about that and has been going public.
Show you the money is right.


Von Says:

Ezorra:
“The way you talk about Nadal is like he is your enemy. He doesn’t even know you Von, trust me. Please realize that the one who might have problem with you is Nadal’s fan, not nadal himself.”

Why don’t you say the same to the Roddick bashers who make bashing him their purpose on this site. Do they really know Roddick? NO. However, they certainly speak as if they do. They are overdoing it!! Enough.

“One thing is, who the hell are you to decide whether nadal is sincere or not? You know nothing Von, nothing!”

Who the hell am I? Somebody, just like Nadal, you and everyone else. And, just who the hell are you to tell me I know nothing? I know nothing, and I’m assuming you know everything. You must be Einstein or Houdini — all rolled into one.

“After listen to your comment recently, believe me, nobody will put any respect in you anymore. Your comments are complete of jealousy, anger and disappointment.”

First of all, as I’ve mentioned before, I DON’T CARE WHO LIKES OR RESPECT ME. YOU ARE ALL FACELESS TO ME. Secondly, you dont’ know what you’re talking about. To insinuate that I don’t know what I’m talking about Nadal is really off the wall. I’m talking about what I see, read and hear, and if you were to really analyze my comments or understand them logically, instead of spouting off, you’d see I’m pointing out what’s FACT and only doing so because the Roddick bashers need to shut up. They are Nadal fans who thrive on bisecting and dissecting Roddick. I even said, if they can play the game, so can I. I also mentioned that because I’m pointing out nadal’s many idiosyncracies, i might offend some Nadal fans, and if you understood my statement, you’ll understand what i’m doing. Ask me if I care whether you respect me? Now, ask me whether I respect you now? And my answer will be an emphatic NO. See, ezorra, it’s simple, everything causes a reaction and it’s a two-way highway. You’re being one-sided and prejudiced and only looking at things from your nadal viewpoint. How can you in any way know I’m speaking because I’m jealous and/or disappointed. Who am I jealous of, and disappointed with or about whom? I’m neither of the two. Who am I jealous about? Nadal? You’ve got to be kidding!! Please tell me you are joking, because i’m laughing. LOL. I’m not disappointed about a darn thing, and i’m assuming I’m disappointed about Roddick. Is that what happens to you? I stated from the very beginning of the USO that I didn’t hold much hope for Roddick going very far in the tournament. he’s been off the tour for 4 loooooooong months, too long for a tennis player to come back and play phenomenal tennis. I had him losing to Santoro in the first round. He had a very, very tough draw, unlike your favourite Nadal. I’m happy Roddick made it to the QFs, which means he will not lose any more ranking points and can remain in the top 10. I do not set unreasonable goals for the players I like. I enjoy whatever times they play and I’m happy to see them. I’m not greedy and repeately state, I want my players to win everything, and if that makes me appear to be angry, jealous or disappointed, then so be it. Whatever tickles your fancy.

“I’m getting fed-up with you man. At first, yes, I really respect with all your patriotism and stuffs you know. I believe that everyone should own that. But after a while, you’ve made me board with all your malicious comment towards someone that doesn’t even know you.”

you’re not very perceptive are you? i’m a WOMAN not A MAN. There’s a song by helen Reddy, which goes like this, (and sing if you know it, but I don’t think that’s likely) The first few lines to the song are: “I am Woman hear me shout — I am strong, i’m invincible, I am WOOOOOman. I’m fed up with you right now too. This is the 3rd time you’ve picked on my comments and has began dressing me down. Have you seen me doing the same to you? NO. I don’t. You’re not bored with Zola’s and Vulcan’s incessant, nasty Roddick comments only mine? Why? Because she’s Nadal’s fangirl? BTW, she hates your other guy, Djokovic, or didn’t you know that/ Now she’s sucking up to Vulcan big time, because she now has a new friend and, guess what, he’s a Djokovic fan, so she pretends to LIKE Djokovic now.

“It’s not my intention to provoke you what so ever. In fact, before all your hateful comment towards Nadal, you’re one of my favorites here (jane, s green, zola and JCF are also in the list) because you’re always come out with a brilliant statistic and facts. It’s interesting, you know. But now….

It’s not your intention to provoke me, then tell me what do you think you’re doing now. you’re writing a love poem or a sonnet to me. or let me guess, you’re reading Solomon’s Song of Songs to me from the Bible. Don’t play coy with me Ezorra, I’m too smart for those games. Try them, on someone else. You’re like some who rip other people to pieces, and then say “no hard feelings or no offense meant.” That and I thik $3.00 (I don’t know if the price went up since I don’t live there any more) will get you a ride on the NYC Subway System, and you can ride and ride and ride, and ride, forever, fading away into the horizon. Do so to your heart’s content and come out to smell the dirt.

“Again, please don’t take this personally…”

Oh, no, then pray tell me how should I take this? You openly attack me for my honest facts on SOME OF Nadal’s behavior, and then you’re telling me to not to take it personally. Alright Ezorra, I won’t take it personally, not as badly as you’re taking my Nadal comments, WHICH REALLY HURT YOU, as you’ve mentioned, and I don’t understand why because he doesn’t even know you, right or wrong? Again, that and $3.00 will give you a ride on the NYC Subway, and you can ride, and, ride, and ride, and rideeeeeeeeeeeeee, into oblivion. Speak the truth and stick by your comments,be courageous when you attack and don’t offer a half-assed pology, it’s even worse than your comments, which i find to be impertinent BTW but don’t hide behind the facade of “don’t taking it personally”…………. OK. I think you’ve bitten off more than you can chew — don’t gag on it. But, please, and I mean it in the nicest way, don’t take this personally. It works both ways, Ezorra. You had fun barkikng up the wrong tree, now I’m having fun helping you down. All’s fair and good, don’t you think? So be it………… Now take a ride ………and ride………and ride. I don’t need your respect. Got it!!


Von Says:

Mary:

“Von: Look at the MS Masters Series Paris, take out three or four names, two are already in out-of-comp it does not matter.
Look at who is left. It’s the people that share a federation doctor. Think about big doping scandals.”

Interesting isn’t it? The crooked players having the same doctors. What a money making profession medicine has turned out to be — a far cry from the true meaning of the Hippocratic Oath. The doping scandals will be off the wall if any of the information was put out htere. There would be an end to most of the sports.

“Read Puerta’s comments about being the easy sacrifice. It’s like in baseball, just throw enough names out there.”

I think the South Americans Puerta, Canas and Zabaletta were the true sacrificial lambs in the whole doping scandal and were chosen to show that something is being done by the ATP. Coria was another sacrificial lamb. Nothing about the Europeans if you notice. It all makes me so sick and because it’s a matter so close to my heart. I’m disgusted!!


Von Says:

Mary:

Just for my own personal information on economics and rising prices, how much has the New York City Subway fare risen to? The subway was ONE of the many reasons I left NYC. Thanks. I’m doing a comparison on cost of living expenses. thanks.


Ezorra Says:

Since you really want me to put myself down at you level and since there are so many ASSUMPTIONS in your previous comments towards Nadal, let me assume what type of person you are;

1. Emotional
2. Children are very afraid when they meet you
3. Has no boyfriend / girlfriend / partners what so ever
4. Fanatic
5. Extremely defensive
6. Stress
7. Show off
8. Sick
9. Wacko
10. Menopause

It’s fair, right? Now let me hear what you want to assume about me since assuming is your hobby… Let us do your hobby together….


Ezorra Says:

Von, since you really want me to put myself down at you level and since there are so many ASSUMPTIONS in your previous comments towards Nadal, let me assume what type of person you are;

1. Emotional
2. Children are very afraid when they meet you
3. Has no boyfriend / girlfriend / partners what so ever
4. Fanatic
5. Extremely defensive
6. Stress
7. Show off
8. Sick
9. Wacko
10. Menopause

It’s fair, right? Now let me hear what you want to assume about me since assuming is your hobby… Let us do your hobby together….


Mary Says:

Von: It is “I am woman hear me roar in numbers too big to ignore.”

Subway is two-bucks one way. Cost of living calculator: http://cgi.money.cnn.com/tools/costofliving/costofliving.html

Thanks on the imput on the drug matter. It’s a very interesting subject.

It’s been raining heavy in NYC for the past few hours. They are not calling for it to stop anytime soon. It would be great to have the final on a Monday night!


zola Says:

Ezorra,

These all started when I wrote that Roddick’s way of cursing the umpire was becoming irritating. Now this site is a war zone and Nadal is under fire because of that.

you can see what her mental level is at. just go back to tennis. let her bash Nadal as much as she wants.


Von Says:

Ezzora:

You started all of this and now you are talking about getting down to my level? You are all of what you’ve portrayed me to be — a big time psychologist are you? Now you’re psycho-analyzing me? You are one hell of a wacko. You picked on me 3 times – 2 of which I let go, and now a 3rd and I’m supposed to let you off the hook — enough is enough. Even God would answer your nonsense and put you in your place. I was easy on you because I know English is not your first language, but now, i realize i shouldn’t have been easy, because you’ve got a nice list of english assessments. Ii didn’t want to embarass you. So tht puts your assessment of a show-off to shame. I could really dress you down and you won’t understand what the hell I’ve said. To begin with I have loving friendships, and I’m liked wherever I go. I receive complikments everyday for my compassionate and forgiving personality. Children, especially babies are drawn to me. I don’t know why, but it happens. And, men LOVE me, because I have a great sense of humor. THAT IS WHY I DON’T NEED TO BE POPULAR HERE. I haven’t touched the menopause stage yet, but when I do, I’ll let you know. You are A VERY POOR JUDGE OF CHARACTER!! I’m comfortable in my lifestyl;e and have many, many friends. Hook up with the real wacko here, who has just lied all of her front teeth out about Roddick. God, I wish it were only Roddick’s umpire rants that were irritating to her. She rants about all the players. Federer, Djokovic, Murray, Haas, Blake, Gasquet, Soderling, Berdych, et al., and HATES anyone who beats Nadal, period. The Americans are the most hated. She only likes the South Americans and Spanish players — no one else. Is there one player that’s exempt from her criticisms, save for Nadal. She’s sunk her teeth into Roddick and never lets up. IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON. How many times has she commented on the last two threads about Djokovic and Roddick? Count it all. Show off, that’s her. She posts more times than anyone and all over the internet tennis sites. She’s obsessed. She made a big statement the other day, that she’ll write whatever she wants, when she wants about Roddick and I can write whatever I want about Nadal. well, I called her bluff and now she doesn’t like it? I’m mnetal now. Too damn bad! She’s so like you, lacking in courage. You react with so much “HURT” as if Nadal is your son or a relative. How can anyone get so personal, i don’t understand it. he’s just a PLAYER. This is too mind-boggling. I become irritated by the Roddick rants, but HURT, no way. i despise ineessant chatter — the commentators get on my nerves in that respect.

Ezorra, please don’t address any posts to me. i don’t care to interact or defend myself to an unknown. Bye and enjoy Nadal’s tennis and don’t get too hurt by any other negative comments from me or other posters.


Ezorra Says:

tq so much zola…
than i undestand…


Ezorra Says:

i mean… understand…


Lenny Says:

LOL @ Gordo. A voice of reason at last ;)

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