Federer Out for Revenge vs. Djokovic Sunday in Basel
by Sean Randall | November 6th, 2010, 5:16 pm
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Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic collide Sunday for the Basel title. Today, playing in front of his hometown crowd Federer had little trouble dispatching Andy Roddick 6-2, 6-4.

“It’s always a lot of fun playing Andy Roddick,” Federer almost mockingly said after collecting his 20th win over the American. “We’ve played each other over 20 times in our career, but we hadn’t played each other a lot lately so I think that’s why we were both a bit unsure at the beginning how we were going to play.”

“I really got off to a good start and could play more freely than he did,” added Federer who broke Roddick four times. “I was able to get a read on his serve and just felt comfortable, even when I went down a break in the second set. At the end I really played good tennis so I’m very happy with the way it went today.”

While Federer cruised, Djokovic had to dig himself out of a first set hole against countryman Victor Troicki in the earlier semifinal. It was Troicki who served for the first set at 6-5, 40-0 but somehow was unable to convert any of his three set points.

Djokovic recovered to win eight of the next 12 games to take the match 7-6, 6-4.

“When I won the first set things were going my way and I felt I was in control,” the defending champion said. “We are professionals, when we step on the court we want to win, regardless of who is across the net. But it’s never easy to play a very good friend.”

Looking at the Federer-Djokovic showdown, Federer leads the head-to-head 11-6, but the two have split their last four meetings, and Djokovic’s earned the bigger of those wins.

Novak administered some pain to Federer beating the Swiss in front of his fans in the Basel last year. And the Serb delivered another blow knocking out Roger in that US Open thriller in September.

Djokovic has also been in form this fall posting a strong 19-2 record since the start of the US Open with his only losses coming to guys ranked ahead of him – Rafael Nadal at the US Open and Federer in Shanghai.

But Federer is quietly (if that’s possible) putting together a solid second half of 2010. Since his disappointing French Open/Wimbledons, Federer’s reached the finals in five of his last six events, winning last week in Stockholm and during the summer in Cincinnati.

“Novak’s playing great at the moment and we just played three really good matches in a row, in Shanghai, the US Open and in Toronto,” said Federer who’s on an 8-match win streak. “It’s going to come down probably to a couple of points here and there. I hope the spectators get behind me and that that’s going to make a difference this year.”

So with both guys playing some really good tennis – you can make a case for either as the best player this fall – it should be a great championship match. That said, playing at home I can’t see Federer losing to Novak in consecutive finals in Basel. That can’t happen.

I like Roger in straight sets.

The Valencia final will be an all-Spanish affair with David Ferrer against the surprising Marcel Granollers. Ferrer took out Robin Soderling 6-3, 3-6, 6-3 while Gronollers upset Gilles Simon 6-4, 6-4.

The Basel final will shown live on the Tennis Channel at 9am ET. Don’t forget if you are in the U.S. to move your clocks back an hour tonight!

SUNDAY BASEL SCHEDULE
CENTRE COURT start 1:00 pm
[1] B Bryan (USA) / M Bryan (USA) vs [2] D Nestor (CAN) / N Zimonjic (SRB)
Not Before 3:00 PM
[1] R Federer (SUI) vs [2] N Djokovic (SRB)


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238 Comments for Federer Out for Revenge vs. Djokovic Sunday in Basel

jane Says:

A good doubles final in Basel as well, with Nesty/Zim versus the Bryans, who’ve cinched number 1 for the year.


skeezerweezer Says:

Sean,

Nice read thanks for diggin out the stats on both, seems like it’s set up for a “head on” collision, hope it plays out that way! Also thanks for the reminder on DST…!!


Kimmi Says:

sean – i hope you didnt jinx roger!


dimwitted recluse Says:

““It’s always a lot of fun playing Andy Roddick,” Federer almost mockingly said after collecting his 20th win over the American”

Nay, lad. ‘Twere niver mockery. To say so were to project from the h2h. Federer often talks about how he enjoys certain encounters. That’s all about stimulus, not chest pounding. Roddick’s serve in particular – which he admits he doesn’t read so well now – he regards as a threat.

Federer is that unusual case, a guy who loves his job. Take Nalbandian, or poor sad Gasquet. Reckon they do? I believe Federer enjoys playing Murray and Djokovic, too, even though he knows his chances are no better than even, if that. It’s working out the puzzle that he likes. Of course, all the glory stuff, that’s satisfying too, but deep down it’s getting to grips with something difficult and mastering it – that’s the real satisfaction. That’s why I am not convinced he enjoys playing Nadal. For some reason, he doesn’t seem to believe he can work him out, even though he obviously has done on a number of occasions. Summat strange gooin on thier.


Gannu Says:

Hope the Sean Jinx doest work today!.. All the way feddy bear.. hope u get ur 65th title.. for all the talk about you going down the drain u are still no 2 and winning tournaments!!!


skeezerweezer Says:

@Gannu,

yeah despite the Sean jinx this was a good “dig” find from him…

“But Federer is quietly (if that’s possible) putting together a solid second half of 2010. Since his disappointing French Open/Wimbledons, Federer’s reached the finals in five of his last six events, winning last week in Stockholm and during the summer in Cincinnati.”


jane Says:

margot, go anjam in the Valencia doubles final. Just watched the film version of Alan Bennett’s “The History Boys”. Good, that.


margot Says:

Hey jane! Way 2 go Team Anjam! :) Don’t expect them 2 win though, B and M are way too experienced doubles players. Does Andy get points, or r singles and doubles separate?
Saw “History Boys” at National Theatre. A friend taught Dominic Cooper at Thomas Tallis School. Said he was a sex god then, can’t see it myself ;)
Hope Nole performs well 2day. He needs to come out fighting, Fed is an amazing front runner. Let the games begin!
dimwittedoldf**t…that’s far too long to type every time… ;)


madmax Says:

federer and roddick go way back, playing in juniors together and there is a massive amount of respect between the both of them. He said very gallantly that a lot of the matches between them have been close – who could forget wimbledon 2009? – epic. After listening to his video link I don’t think anyone can accuse federer of being ‘mocking’ at all.

And sean, federer can’t help being a briliant player. He wasn’t mocking roddick in any way, so don’t imply that he was, you’ll only start something here otherwise!

Let’s not forget that roddick also can see the funny side of things, look at the basel tournament here between the both of them – classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9-KlJ3tkZE

good luck to both novak fans and federer fans today – should be a great match, as it always is between these two players.

hope you come back for this one duro and ollyk.


madmax Says:

too quick – ‘brilliant’.


contador Says:

unfortunately, “it” could happen. i hope it doesn’t in basel again but djoko is playing extremely well. from what i’ve seen, he’s playing better than he did last summer. he’s serving great along with all his other gifts. imo, djoko is better right now than he was a year ago. but…

as fed says, he’ll have the crowd and i hope that’s enough of an edge this time. also i recall thinking fed was doing well to get as far as he did last year by reaching the final.

i didn’t watch the roddick federer match. NEVER watching one of those again! but i saw him play tipsy and steps. fed is moving and serving well.

GO Fed!

meanwhile, the paris qualifiers are at it. cool jarkko took the first set and it appears he’ll make it into the paris main draw easily. jarkko isn’t new by any means but he’s a new favorite for me. love how tough he is lately. c’mon metal head!

only 15 minutes left to make changes to the paris draw….


Kimmi Says:

muzza jamie took the first set..

mean while the bryan brother beats nestor/zim

c’mon roger!


Kimmi Says:

ivanovic win some tornament which still cant understand in bali. good for her..

looks like next year will be a good year for her.


Kimmi Says:

the murrays still fighting in this match..c’mon


Gannu Says:

Good to c u kimmi… other fed fans – madmax, skeez, huh etc there?? been a while havent posted much.. ;-) they are not showing this match live in India on any sports channel :-(((((( .. have to manage with a livestream which is horrendus as internet speeds here are horrible…

Seems like our man is playing a good second half… hope he finishes off pretty strong…


Farley Says:

I’m very sure Federer will win easily.


Kimmi Says:

farley – i dont know which match you are watching..federer is been pushed in his first game…


dimwitted recluse Says:

This has the makings of a stern battle – 1 all, and breakpoint chances to both.


madmax Says:

Come on federer! This is going to be another close one.

Come on, who would expect anything less?


jane Says:

margot – woot! They won. I’m going to type d.r. for dimwitted recluse. Course we could also say “Dr.”

I hope Nole can play well today; playing Fed at home must be about as tough as it gets.


jane Says:

Arrgh, already broken, don’t think I can watch.


dimwitted recluse Says:

If Federer returns passively, Djokovic instantly pounces on him. By and large, F is taking note of this, and hitting his returns good. Twice Fed’s had opportunities and blown them. No other way of putting it. Even so, he breaks again – mixtyre excellent play and one poor shot from D.


contador Says:

that was not and easy break at all.


dimwitted recluse Says:

At last an easy service game. Can F keep this up? History suggests all sorts of twists and turns to follow…


dimwitted recluse Says:

Now an easy Djoko service game. “Arrgh, already broken, don’t think I can watch.”
jane, I suggest this comment is deeply unhistorical.


contador Says:

djoko has his game face on. not joking today.


contador Says:

these two know each other so well. ahhhhh federer attempts a tweener…no! then a double fault

now to deuce….a battle?


jane Says:

If Fed is out-returning Nole, then Nole has no hope, imo, because Fed is just a way more consistent server. So far Fed is returning first serves more effectively than Nole.

d.r., which part is unhistorical, me not being able to watch? I’ll go along with you there. : )


Naderer Says:

Some one once said that you can count the number of titles that Federer has won since taking Paul in the team on one hand….even if you’ve got no fingers…lol…whoever you are , please show yourself, i’d like to know what you have to say now


Kimmi Says:

ah this match makes me nervous..c’mon fed. dont give the break back puleeeese


margot Says:

jane, kimmi: glorious Autumn day in UK, just got back from a walk in the woods, no, no bears…, to see Team Anjam WON!! Am shocked and delighted, never thought they would, score looks very close too. Good news for Paris, say I.
Just watching The match, Novak looks kind of subdued to me?


contador Says:

no he’s not subdued , he’s serious.

this is a dogfight.

nole very close to breaking back right now


Ben Pronin Says:

Djokovic looks bigger since the last time I saw him, which was the US Open.


contador Says:

one ace saves him

but it is deuce!! yikes


contador Says:

and advantage nole now


Ben Pronin Says:

Both guys have really come out to play.


contador Says:

back to deuce.

this is very crucial


contador Says:

federer has a set point.

and made it!

but this is not done.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Fed holds on. Yes, Novak is the best returner of the game. Some awfully good returns in there.
Isn’t it lovely for a change to see a well paced match, no stalling, taking so much time. Gonna be a close one here. Go Fed!


dimwitted recluse Says:

Federer squeeezes thru, but I saw little of 2nd half, screen endlessly freezing. Anyone got a RELIABLE stream?
jane – just about all D/F matches seem to have twists and turns galore. So with them, you don’t just assume it’s over because of one break. Actually, one thing I did see in last game was an excellent bh lob from D, in a disadvantageous position, nearly hit the mark – wold then have been 0-30. Looked like a twist on the way. I’d be amazed if some do not follow.


Kimmi Says:

couldnt watch federer serving for the set..too nervous. so glad he was able to do it.

keep going buddy..second set will be tough


jane Says:

Nole is 0/3 in break points and 4/20 returning first serves. That doesn’t bode well for him, imo. Either way, good run for him to get back to the finals.

margot, great to hear of your lovely Autumn walk; Fall can be such a beautiful season when the sun is shining and the leaves are firey, but it can be dark, drippy and dreary – just depends.


Kimmi Says:

aaarg
early break. djoko with the good start in the second set..


Skeezerweezer Says:

jane,

yeah but when he gets a Fed second serve his return is boding well for him,,,,,

Why does it look like a 3 setter already this early? Fed seems like he is trying to hold back Novak from busting through…..

C’mon Fed!


contador Says:

jane-

nole just broke fed at 15-love


jane Says:

d.r., you may be right. However, it seems Fed is giving Nole more looks at second serves a.t.m., so it’s allowed Nole to get an early break. Ah, but isn’t that just what Roddick got yesterday too? And Fed still won in straights. So I am just going to wait and see. I didn’t stop watching anyhow. But I am doing some straightening up. Like Kimmi, just get too nervous.


contador Says:

and holding serve, is nole

this looks to go 3. and i predict……


Skeezerweezer Says:

Just call me a dentist :)


margot Says:

OMG Fed has just done an Andy Murray!!
Dimwit: bet 365
jane: u can watch now;)


jane Says:

d.r., there are four streams at this site:

http://www.fromsport.com/


dimwitted recluse Says:

so there’s the first twist. Predictable as a monkey’s fart. Will there be more? Yes, you’d say so, but Djoko looking good now..


Gannu Says:

This has become a habit for federer against nole.. win the 1st set.. play ahorrendous second set and lose and then God knows what would happen in the final set…this pattern of playing is quite evident in his matches these days.. just cant explain wats happening.. he i such a good front runnerbut really disgusting.. dont even want to see wat will happen in the 3rd set.. tired of this display time and again..


contador Says:

yeah. this is painful to watch fed atm. too early for an anesthetic in my time zone. put me out of my misery!

just want fed to win his home tournament puhleese…..snif, snif

mama mia


dimwitted recluse Says:

just what is the point of doing a fh drop shot when you have just earned a weak return to allow a nice smashy put away? F deservedly punished – but gets away with it in the game.


jane Says:

I’d be happy for Fed to win at home too, and he seems to really want it; he’s been playing extremely well. But Nole has loads of points to defend right now so no matter what happens here, I hope Nole can do pretty well in Paris.

margot, meant to reply earlier, though not sure if you were joking, but yes, doubles points are separate from singles. :)


contador Says:

djoko too powerful off both wings in a rally.

federer, can he come up with some magic? he’s not gonna beat djoko in a baseline contest.

djoko serving is great today too.


contador Says:

meant broke fed at love fourty to start the second set and i am not happy.


margot Says:

jane: ta, no I didn’t know, showing my ignorance …or..wishful thinking…;) I love Autumn and this year in UK wonderful tree colour.
Meanwhile we go to 3 sets, I feel. Excellent. Fed’s serve has dropped off, again absolutely crucial


dimwitted recluse Says:

Gannu, the reason these matches are so tight is that the two players are equally matched, perhaps. Different strengths. Whoever wins is going to have to earn it. you can’t expect some straightforward glide through.
Oh, magnificent shot from Djokovic – both players tremendous in that rally


dimwitted recluse Says:

yeah, to continue – D’s wonderful shot next almost matched by Fed (applauded by D – these guys are enjoying themselves), who manages to hold. Sometimes they both play crap, some times both out of this world, some times just one does one or other. Who wins in the end is almost a bout timing – when do the good shots count?


jane Says:

Yes, when Nole won in doubles at Queens, was wishfully thinking the same.

conty, Fed still very much in this second set; I am not convinced it’ll go three sets after seeing Fed storm back versus Roddick yesterday. Fed is man on mission to get back home title. Feels like fated to me. I don’t know why. Just does.


Kimmi Says:

UE are piling up for fed in this set..

wake up federer


Gannu Says:

dim… to some extent i agree but i see federer having really mental lapses these days.. just cant hold off the same momentum.. and add to that his serve goes for a toss… have never seen these days federer serve flawlessly the entire match..just comes and goes and fluctuates so much in a match…anyways lets hope he somehow pulls this one ot.. it will be embarassing to lose so many times the finals in front of his home crowd ;-)


jane Says:

They have been enjoying themselves; nice to see that. These two have mended the fence, if that’s the right metaphor.


margot Says:

jane: dunno, Fed’s looking pretty beatable at mo., too many unforced. Djko would have to go right away to lose this set. But who knows what’ll happen in 3rd?


dimwitted recluse Says:

Did Djokovic just slightly slow down his fh, inducing the lack of timeing from Fed (last point of D’s serve)? Hmm, more to this Djokovic fella than meets the eye…


contador Says:

no. i would not say federer is enjoying himself


Kimmi Says:

40-0 to duece..danger time for djoko to take the set here…double fault

set point djoko


contador Says:

he basically has to serve aces to win a game and that is not good….or enjoying the moment. lots of pressure on fed


dimwitted recluse Says:

D on fire – from 0-40 to deuce. Fed looking his age, scampering around the court, stretching vainly…


Kimmi Says:

holds! phew.. at least let djoko serve it out


Skeezerweezer Says:

Well at least Fed will be serving first for the third if Novak holds…


jane Says:

I think Fed likes a battle. Let’s see if Nole can serve out this set. Hmmmm. Fed will be out for blood.


dimwitted recluse Says:

Still, F holds. D to do the business. Troicki, are you watching?


Kimmi Says:

too ggressive for fed to return those serves..missing quite a few easy second serve return


jane Says:

Nole hitting no first serves in, 30 all.


Fedend Says:

Even with all the crowd support in his own backyard, I think Federer is going to get another thrashing.


contador Says:

djoko is younger and stronger imo. going to a 3rd set favors the serb, imo. we’ll soon see.

in any other venue these days i would not care. i expect nole to win. i like his tennis very much.

but not basel again. i’m gonna cry….

then….gulbis is gonna lose to chela…..s$$tty day for tennis.


Kimmi Says:

how did djoko miss that easy one…c’mon fed. not many chances today..please take them


jane Says:

See conty? What did I tell you? Fed out for blood!


Kimmi Says:

big c’mon from djoko. he wants it

duece


Kimmi Says:

set point djoko


Fedend Says:

Offlate Federer was doing well only in best of 3 set matches. Now it seems that Federer can win only best of 1 set matches.


Kimmi Says:

third set here we come.

i see danger to federer! please start well in the third


margot Says:

jane: hate people who say, “I told u so” but….”I told u so.” ;)


jane Says:

Well, I am happy Nole took a set from Fed; it’s the first he’s lost all tournament, and similarly the first set was the first one Nole had lost all tournament. These two have good contests.

I picked Gulbis to win; hope he does!


Skeezerweezer Says:

Thrashing? They just split sets. You must be watching something else, lol


jane Says:

margot, touche. :) But it was very very tense right? I mean Fed had break back point. Nole held to together, but only just.


contador Says:

doesn’t matter if fed is out for blood if he can’t hang with djoko in a rally, jane. and djoko’s serve is dynamite. huge improvement from even the us open


dimwitted recluse Says:

Well, D temprorarly in trouble, but pulls hiself out. He roars. Understabds ok. Troicki, you need to roar, or at least put yourself in a position to roar.
One thing seems to me – Fed is known to like power directed at him, deflects it and so on – but I’ve noticed now if the ball is hit fairly hard towards the corner, Fed (on the run)just can’t handle the pace. D, Nadal, Murray , Roddick and maybe others can often, and turn defence into offence. Anyone agree?


dimwitted recluse Says:

I cannot believe Federer missed that smash. It was so nicely set up!


Kimmi Says:

aah missing some easy shots on that game federer.

c’mon ..lets go


jane Says:

conty, Djok’s serve’s been up and down this event. Some days not many firsts in; today he’s kept that pretty high. But. This is Fed we’re talking about. I can easily seem him winning this. He’s still holding, and usually easily most games. He has 30 all right now and almost broke back in the last set. This is a toss up at this point.


Ben Pronin Says:

“This is a toss up at this point.”

Isn’t that what makes this so exciting?


margot Says:

jane: agree on your last and Fed’s serve has picked up…but Nole can do it if he holds his nerve.


Fedend Says:

Federror !!!!!!


jane Says:

Fed is making deeper in roads into Nole’s service games; has break point right now. Whereas Nole making none into Fed’s.


contador Says:

we must be watching different djokovic’s jane. the only match i misses of djoko’s was against troiki.

djokovic has been nothing short of brilliant. but i understand when you are nervous about your favorite.

fed cannot always take it up a notch or even convert what he now has….a break point


contador Says:

how nice that the openly self admitted troll ( fed fan provocateur ) fedend, shows up to gloat and taunt.

main objective is to provoke – he/she admits

hope you are happy now margot. not a sugery sweet day for fed fans.

particularly with deadend posting his self admitted reason for being here- to play with fedtards aka be a troll


jane Says:

Double faults to give Fed the break!?? Okay, that just plain sucked Nole!

Meanwhile, Ferrer on his way to Valencia title so it looks like hometown boys will win both.


dimwitted recluse Says:

jane, it’s always been a toss up. But if Federer manouevers himsel into position again and then hits elegantly, beautifully straight into the net, I am personally going fly to basil and thump him.
Having said which, Federer breaks. df from D.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Nole df WTF?


margot Says:

ooo, nasty person in the crowd puts Nole right off and double fault ensues :(


jane Says:

conty, I have been keeping track of his service stats. Versus both Haas and Neminen he was only just above 50% first serves in. So I don’t think his serve has been brilliant. But the rest of his game has been great; I wouldn’t disagree there.

You should be happy now.


NELTA Says:

Someone in the crowd yelled out “GAME FEDERER” when Djoko stepped up to the line to serve on break point. He stepped away to regroup then proceeded to miss his 1st and 2nd serve to give the game to Fed.


Skeezerweezer Says:

That was not cool


contador Says:

not happy at all.


dimwitted recluse Says:

3-1 Federer. Ha, ha. So I expect youse all thinks its easy now, eh? No more twists. Just a cool and inevitable procession. Ha ha ha ha.
Bite your nails, better tha punching yourself in the eye.


jane Says:

Nope that crowd person … just not cool at all.


contador Says:

been sick of fedend all week and he/she with the “fedtards” slur

cant post on tennisx without that c@#$p

and enjoy a match


Catherine Says:

If it were up to me, folks yelling stuff like that during a match would be thrown out of the stadium immediately…


jane Says:

Nole completely off the boil now. Fed will sail to the title with another break. It was good match nonetheless.


Gannu Says:

fedend should be banned.. the name itself indicates that he/she is mentally retarded and unstable person


Fedend Says:

FEDTARDS are everywhere….and helping Federer win matches which he has to lose.


dimwitted recluse Says:

break point and Fed within cms. ‘Nother bp, good serve. 3rd bp – D challanges, loses. F to serve for match


jane Says:

Well, congrats to Fed and Fed fans!

Nole, I guess we’ll always have Paris. :/


Fedend Says:

Gannu the a$$hole is back…hurray !!!!


Catherine Says:

Deadend, I understand your misery right now, but please stop making a fool of yourself ok?


contador Says:

crowds do that. i imagine if this match was played in belgrade…the crowd there would enjoy their favorite similarly.

sorry for nole though. but he won this last year very deservedly too. outplayed federer completely and as i recall silenced the crowd ….for the most part.


Kimmi Says:

whoooooo wooooo! congratulations fed. you did it


Skeezerweezer Says:

Fed showing that last point why is still the Maestro…what a shot :)


dimwitted recluse Says:

so there was another twist, the biggest twist of all. And that is that there wasn’t another twist. Surprised I’ve got any fingers left waiting for the twist that didnd’t turn up.


margot Says:

Congratulations to Fed and all his fans. You can breathe now! But will someone explain to me how Nole managed to lose that one?? Too much tennis??


contador Says:

normally, i am not at all for censuring anyone. but this time i do agree with you, Gannu.


Gannu Says:

Fedend.. u have completely lost it.. the most insecure person i have ever seen posting in my life..go drown in ur sorrows..Fed hs won his 65th title and with each title he just his adding to his untarnished legacy….its not easy being a fed hater…lol ;-) I pity you.. End of Fedend


Catherine Says:

So Fed now broke Sampras’ total number of tournament wins, in his own backyard. I think he was a bit emotional there. Kudos to him, I’m very happy he seems to be back-on-track, despite that absymal second set.


Thomas Says:

Yess! nice work federer. He has now overtaken sampras for his 65th title.


Fedend Says:

FEDTARDS,
Its time to celebrate !!!
Make sure u enjoy all these 250 and 500 tourneys.
Masters and slams are no more for the Fed.


jane Says:

margot, maybe I am wrong, but perhaps Nole’s double fault brought back all sorts of horrific memories of earlier this year. And he completely, imo, lost concentration from that point on.


contador Says:

i think it was a combination of the overwhelming crowd support. that has to be tough to deal with, even for an experienced champion player like nole.

and imo federer had been moving better than say, the us open and serving well all week.

last year fed absolutely could not match nole’s form, regardless of home support for federer.


contador Says:

go fart in a bathtub and eat the bubbles, you silly immature twerp, deadend!


Kimmi Says:

my stream just died during trophy ceremony..aah how horrible!


dimwitted recluse Says:

“Fed showing that last point why is still the Maestro…what a shot :)” – Skeezer.
Yes, but did you see how completely relaxed Federer was? He knew he’d won, and just hit with abandon. Like you do in practice, perhaps – those as can. If he could do more of that in tight-ish situations – well, that ‘ud be something wouldn’t it? Is that unrealistic? Not really – he used to do it. Gonzalez did, others too i daresay. To hit with joy as if you have not a care in the world. That’s the way to go in the evening of your career…


Fedend Says:

Conty,
Are u on drugs even now ?


Thomas Says:

@fedend
go play with your toys,tennis just wasn’t made for you…


Fedend Says:

Hey common FEDTARDS i am just following Gannu’s own rules.

“calling Nadal an a$$ picker.. what wrong with that?/ Doesnt he do that every time?”

Whats wrong in calling Gannu an a$$hole ??
Gannu…dont u have a hole ??


jane Says:

I do agree Fed was hitting freely and that he knew he’d win (i.e., no more twists); I’d say it began as soon as he got the break in the 3rd. Meanwhile Nole had lost the excellent focus he’d had to that point. So a complete momentum swing meant free swings from one end and defeat from the other. For me, it was an anti-climactic end to an otherwise nail-biting match, and it felt like it on that double fault. Ouch. But of course to all you Fed fans (I think I was the lone on cheering for Nole) it would’ve seen like a climactic ending in all likelihood. The power of perception hey?

Kimmi, I know I kept looking around but couldn’t find the ceremony, which I was hoping to catch. I like seeing the players hanging out, chatting, smiling, rueing missed chances, etc. It’s like being robbed of the credits! :)


margot Says:

jane: ah, yes, I agree. His confidence did seem to disappear with that double fault.
Fedend: the rules are: no matter who you are backing, you congratulate the winner. yes :) no :(


contador Says:

no i am not on drugs. but you are clearly a twerp – an immature little person who may or may not be on drugs….wouldn’t think you’d need them. being a creep obviously comes naturally to you and stuck at an emotional age of 13.


Skeezerweezer Says:

edBEGINS again :). Your continual excuse for hoping for a Fed demise is just been smacked back, kinda like spittin into the wind. The poster name is irrelevant now, needs to change. You got the posts you deserved by posting during and right after a Fed win. Chill and let Fed fans have there glory for a day…..

Jane,

Novak look like he lost his mojo after the df incident, although one point doesn’t make a match. I thought he was getting the better of it at the baseline, but errors started to creep in, something I would have expected from Fed nowadays. It was not cool the timed comment from the crowd. But they were playing in Fed fan capital of the world.
He is in good form, and a deep Paris run is in the cards for him for sure…..

BTW..Nole awards ceremony…class all the way


NELTA Says:

Fed has now won 9 different tournaments 4 times or more including hard, grass, clay and indoors

Dubai – outdoor hard – 4
AO – hard – 4
Hamburg – clay – 4
Halle – grass – 5
Wimby – grass – 6
Cincy – outdoor hard – 4
USO – hard – 5
Basel – indoor hard – 4
TMC – indoor hard – 4


Kimmi Says:

skeezer – you did watch the award ceremomy? lucky you. my stream died just at the end of the match..i see jane could not find it either..:(

tennittv are robbing us…


contador Says:

i have the ceremony….in italian. the only live stream i could find.

congratulations to ferrer’s win in valencia. what a fighter, ferrer!

soon the gulbis match


Kimmi Says:

ok, i forgot about the other final in valencia. i see ferrer won it. sorry lucky loser..a good run anyways.

ferrer now on his way to qualify for london..


jane Says:

Congrats to Ferrer as well; he’s won Valencia.

skeeze “but errors started to creep in, ” Yes, this is what I mean by he lost focus/confidence and began to doubt himself and his game. Up till then he was in it.

You guys are letting Fedend get your GOAT, get it? LOL. :)


Catherine Says:

Very nice to see Ferrer get the Valencia title!
Very much on his way to the WTF now, I’ll be happy to see him there.

And yeah, wtf with cutting off those streams just before the trophy ceremony!?


Skeezerweezer Says:

Forgot the “F” in edBEGINS, blasphemy, lol

Kimmi,

Yeah I saw it. Short, usual stuff. Fed was gracious as usual and the crowd gave Novak a good clap. Novak had nothing but praise, wants to come back.

NELTA,

Thanks for the stats, nice indeed!


Fedend Says:

Fed’s demise is not a hope…its a fact…..which the FEDTARDS have yet to realize….hahahahahaha


jane Says:

skeeze, can you tell me – what did Nole say? I missed the entire ceremony. Boohoo.


Fedend Says:

Good to see second rung players (Ferrer and Federer) winning these small tourneys….its their time of the season.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Jane,

Played Scrabble? Your last sentence was worth 150 gazillion points. LMAO :)

“You guys are letting Fedend get your GOAT”


contador Says:

it gets seriously old. unavoidably so when deadend uses all caps for his/her slurs on one thread then goes and trolls a federer-djokovic match to provoke.

i got a point for picking serra over montanes. yay.

normally i would back montanes but figured serra would try harder.

however, since fed won basel, im now regretting picking murray to win paris. i think nole will come out swinging there and defend his title.


Gannu Says:

Fedend – being No 2 in the world winning four titles which includes a Gslam, a masters, 1 500 and a 250 series tourament is demise?? There is no point arguing with brainless people like you… you just live in hope and sub-consciously by calling Fed’s career a demise you are actually raiisng the benchmark to unimaginable heights./.. being No 2 and winning 4 tournaments is a demise!!!! Great… No one including the greatest a$$picker of all time ( you even have a bigger hole i feel) will ever be judged by those standards

Nothing more to add

Well done Feddy bear.. and congrats to all FedFans… Was lovely to see Fed’s twins in the stands at the presentation ceremony.. they wre so cute ;-)


margot Says:

conty: nothing to do with Fed or Rafa, as a matter of fact, only to do with fans who give their heroes attributes beyond human. Fed and Rafa are brilliant tennis players, probably amongst the greatest ever seen, enough?


jane Says:

skeeze, lol. It comes partly from this: I just finished teaching P.K.Dick’s novel “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?” Anyhow, Deckard falls for the android Rachael, who is a devious and persistent little machine, and in order to really upset Deckard, she pushes his real, expensive and rare goat off the roof, killing it.

I think Fedend is just trying to push your goat off the roof. LOL. He’s kind of funny in his persistence. But you need to let it slide. Just repeat “Ohmmm” “Ohmmmm”, or else use the scroll button.

Fed just won 2 titles in a row after reaching the finals of another. Be Happy! Nole, too, has won a title, and reached semis and finals of another. It’s all good right? I am pretty content. He’s a consistent guy and i felt like he could’ve won, and next time maybe he will.

Plus, the sun is shining. And we get an extra hour of daylight.


Skeezerweezer Says:

@jane

It was really short, gave Fed props, said he really enjoyed the tourney and how he was treated, and looks forward to coming back next year. :)


jane Says:

Thanks for the synopsis. :)


Kimberly Says:

contador–im regretting picking nole, thinking i should have gotten someone on that side of the draw with less matches. Like Murray, who I took out to La Monf based on the Monaco loss.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Jane,

Re: 12:41

Thanks for that :).

Yeah I am off to a day in the country as a matter of fact, y’all have a great day also. Go Tennis!


madmax Says:

great discussion federer fans and nole fans –

contador, you are a class act, like we have said before. Glad you like the new name ‘deadend’, cos that’s where this ‘twerp’s’ posts end up. Forget him. Like skeeze said, only here to gloat. Poor, sad life, whereas you are funny. bath bubbles! hilarious conty!

It’s a shame really, for deadend. he cannot bear to see federer win. Yet, the majority of people here can have a mature discussion until the trolls come on.

Fedend Says:
Even with all the crowd support in his own backyard, I think Federer is going to get another thrashing.

November 7th, 2010 at 11:34 am

Fedend obviously danced the wrong dance today.

I love this rivalry with novak and roger – it’s so close all the time – and such deep respect between the both of them.

Novak is the future. I said that to duro (where are you man?!) and to ollyk – how can anyone not enjoy his style of play. He has everything. And he has improved so much. That has to be down to dropping the previous coach. He is so much more fired up, right margot?

He is great for tennis.

Nelta, thanks for the stats. I love to read those.


contador Says:

yeah sure margot. there is life beyond fed and rafa for sure.

but it is too much when all i hope for is a good match and not to be harassed when federer is playing.

i doubt you’d like it if posters came on specifically to insult andy murray, in all caps with a murray slur for a pseudo.


Kimberly Says:

actually murrays on feds side. Maybe Murray v. Soderling?

Feel like Fed and Novak have been playing lots of tennis and could be ripe for an early round bye bye.

Re: Feds decline. Fed is still awesome. He’s still number 2 in the world. But he is not the player he was. I imagine he can continue to threaten the tour for 2-3 years as a top player. But he is inpenetrable before. And his loss of number one is not due to Rafa. Its due to the other guys on the tour being able to beat him. He only played Rafa once.


madmax Says:

Fedend Says:
Fed’s demise is not a hope…its a fact…..which the FEDTARDS have yet to realize….hahahahahaha

November 7th, 2010 at 12:32 pm

Last acknowledgement of deadend. Let him have his day. Not much else going for deadend.

Conty, you are on a roll today – you go for it!

Jane – yes. Your play on words is too good – i doubt whether deadend would understand it though, but you are right. GET THE GOAT!


contador Says:

Kimberly. a breath of fresh air to see you this morning.

i think your pick of djokovic is good. last year he won both basel and paris. i daresay the crowd assisted fed today. they both played well but had i known fed would win ( i really felt nole would) i would have picked a murray nole final with nole winning in paris instead of murray.

i have murray beating federer. paris is not a priority for fed-historically.

my secret wish is for monfils or simon to win! just for the frenchies!!


blank Says:

Congrats Fed! Well done Nole. Good luck to both for next week!

Darn this daylight saving. I missed the 1st set and a half.

Looking forward to next week. Off to the brackets! Should be even more exciting with jane, skeezer and more.


margot Says:

oh but conty, they sure do and.. whenever andy loses, I have to put up with he’s a “head case” “unstable” “never win a slam” “pusher” “can’t deal with big hitters” etc etc
now that’s not nice :(


Kimberly Says:

contador—its because fed is so good and so significant that people take the time to do these things and actually create monikers with his name in it.

Rafa gets them too, remember that poster “Rafa is Weak” who used to come on (i suspect he/she is still here with a new name)? and zinaldo comments on Rafas matches with horrendous comments. I see Fed is Afraid was absent. Count your blessings for that one.


madmax Says:

Kimberley,

I take your point. But reality says the fact that federer has been at the top for so long, how much more can we expect from the guy? Really, anything now is just great – of course would like him to continue winning and winning, but who else can you say has been at the top of tennis for the length of time that federer has? I would be interested to know.

And the players who are there – rafa, nole, murray, deserve to be there – they are the future of tennis, and every now again nole and murray are the ‘now’.

As margot said, it’s never been better. We are so lucky.


jane Says:

Nole has had a break since Shanghai semis Kimberly, and don’t forget Murray just played doubles finals in Valencia, and Soda was in the semis, so they’ve all been playing a lot, including Fed.


Kimberly Says:

I mean, there are no people with monikers like
Verdasco is Slumping
Downwardspiralcilic
davydenkoisdone
chokingvictor
booberdy
nopopforsoda
because these players don’t rank in importance enough for anyone to do that.


Daniel Says:

Fed just salvage his season, even titles finals for the year, well he still has 2 touneys and can win one of them to finish the year strong, boosting his chances to defend AO next year.

You gotta give Fedend some credit, calling Federer a “second rung players” was the second most absurd comment I have ever heard in this blog, losing only to guy I think (coincidently another Nadal fan) who said when Nadal won 18 MS, that winning Masters titles is harder than winning Grand Slams!


Kimberly Says:

i do agree with margot, murray and novak both get criticized pretty heavily and take a lot of beating here but not as bad as nadal and fed. Goes with the glory of being at the top.


Gannu Says:

wat perhaps could do wonders to fed’s confidence is beating rafa at the masters final in London… that would really perhpas again instill the belief in everyone that fe dis still the man to beat… i think fe dis playing well enough to end the year on a high note… would love to see him pick couple of GSlams next year! and atlest be no 1 for another 2 weeks so that he can beat sampras record.. its a pity that he has fallen short by one week ad tuly dersve sto hold that record.. if fed has any chance it would be next year as rafa has hell lot of points to defend and one early exit would just catapult fed’s chances to grab that spot!


margot Says:

kimberly: difference is that Fed and Rafa have millions more fans to spring to their defence, than either Andy or Nole.


Kimberly Says:

Margot, agreed and Nole seems to have more than Andy or Andy’s are just MIA due to his somewhat lackluster year. I thik people are frustrated with Andy as he clearly has the talent to be #1 and has just not done it.

You know my extremely shallow reasons for not being an Andy fan and they have nothing to do with this (Judy and appearance).


blank Says:

If Murray wins a GS next year, I bet he will have at least the same number of fans, if not more, than Djokovic.


contador Says:

LOL kimberly!!

actually try streaming a match on fromsport.com sometime and read the chat board. fededend fits right in there and even would be considered lame as a provocateur.

the monikers, well, cant call them that, the “slurs” the children or grown idiots use there are very funny or offensive, depending on taste.

nadal and federer get the worst of course but no player is safe!

the guy i like is called “chokerman” he is from itlay and he puts up the picture of the choker of the day. troiki was up yesterday and the day before was niemenen. i am wondering if djokovics picture will be up. i wouldn’t say djokovic choked today tho. i guess it;s debatable.

i believe nole or murray win paris. for federer today was kinda a mission accomplished, i imagine, getting his home trophy back.

________

thanks madmax : )


Daniel Says:

Yeah gannu, beating Nadal in YEC would be ideal, but I think Nadal won’t play it, or if he does he won’t get far. If somewhere in his mind he feels he should be doing something else them playing, or playing just to contractual pourposes, his mind won’t be the same.

I get this feeling with Nadal, more than everything he needs his mind totaly in the tourney to perform as best as he can. Just like Montecarlo this year and US Open, by far two of the most memorables performances of his career (RG 2008 was the top to me)! Montecarlos he was without a title for 11 months and you could see he was happy to be back on clay and that made he remember the champion he was/is, and suddenly he was trashing everybody 6-1, 6-0 going on to win 3 Grand Slams in a row. If we put it in perspective it was one of tennis greatest turn around point in a players career.


jane Says:

Murray has lots of support, latent though it may be. Nole has lots of national support, but I suspect Murray does too, When the results come, as Blank says, they’ll be more vocal in support of Andy M.


jane Says:

contador, some poster here used to call Nole “chokebitch” and another one used the dumb name “roddick is a donkey” so trust me, there are lots of nasties around. I try to envision that ice cave in “Fight Club” with the penguin; positive visualization, and “SLIDE”, let it slide. Sigh. Sometimes the blood boils over, but in the end I guess it’s up to the moderators, and also the posters if they feel like a battle. Certainly, you are feisty today, and your “fart in a tub” comment made me laugh out loud including losing some coffee. :)


Fedend Says:

FEDTARDS,
Keep dreaming about beating Rafa. In the last 3 years Rafa was beaten by Federer only once. So you guys have to wait 3 more years to see a win somewhere in a 250 or a 500 tourney.


dimwitted recluse Says:

Contador:”i have murray beating federer. paris is not a priority for fed-historically.”
Why is Paris historically not a priority for Fed? D’you mean he’s not been able to win it yet? Surely, that fact will be quite motivating for him. As for Murray beating Federer, there is no doubt that Murray always plays out of his socks when fed’s on the other side of the net. All the gremlins just disappear (or perhaos we should say are temporarily pushed aside), and Murray the maestro – which is what he is – turns up. Federer must feel kind of picked upon. But I’m sure he knows the score, and the one thing he doesn’t want is to be regarded as Murray’s pigeon – and that’s perilously close. If Federer and Murray meet, expect Fed to pull out all the stops. Not that will necessarily be enough. Murray is seriously good and in my humble doodah is potentially the most serious threat to Nadal achieving sainthood at the AO. Meanwhile, watch out for Ferrer. Fed/Ferrer could be good.

Daniel, Fedend calling Federer “a second rung player” was quite funny, actually, and in the Tennis Bullies tradition. He doesn’t actually think that, but he does hope to annoy a few people. Whereas guy really does believe some of his more bizarre statements.


margot Says:

kimberly: am fine with you not liking Andy, u know that :)
jane: hmm, not sure, don’t 4get Andy is Scottish. There’s actually an “anyone but Andy” vociferous minority group in UK who post whenever he loses, this is due mainly to a remark he made about the English football team, in response to a disparaging remark a journalist made about Scottish team. I know, I know but these things seem to matter in some quarters :(


Ben Pronin Says:

Federer has really cleaned up his act. It’s great, really. Perhaps it’s a credit to Annacone? Since the partnership, Federer has only failed to reach the finals in one event. He was 1-2 in finals during a 6 month stretch and in the last 4 months he’s 3-2 in finals. Not too shabby for an old guy.


blank Says:

If Nole doesn’t win next week and Murray puts on a decent show, I think they’ll swap ranking positions. Not that being 3 or 4 really matters, either Fed or Nadal will always be on each side of the draw.


contador Says:

for what it’s worth margot, i always support murray on the chat board. there are a lot of anti murray fans. i spar with them anonymously and unedited. you’d be proud! lol

yes the slurs are nasty for djokovic but there are big fights going on between the many serbian fans there and other europeans of ….not sure what origin.

not something i am proud about…getting “fiesty” on a respectable tennis talking site. not my intention here, apologies. but the “urban dictionary” had many definitions of “twerp” i was surprised to find and the one from Kurt Vonnegut…which i won’t repeat, made me aspirate and cough my pepsi!! very funny.
_______________________
meawhile no stream for gulbis in paris. ( my bf is outta town this weekend, otherwise i’d be pulled outta the house by now!) anyway, ernie appears on live score to be holding his own in a match against chela


jane Says:

Blank, I think Andy could do it. He’d have to win, or make the finals I’d think, and Nole would have to lost sort of earlier (which is possible). Right now Nole has 7145 and Murray has 6125 (but I don’t know if this is with this week’s points taken off or not?). They both lost some points this weekend, since Murray won Valencia last year and Nole won Basel. But Murray lost pretty early in Paris last year (R16??) so he could definitely take it, if not here then at the WTF (they are both defending 400 pts there).

margot, ooff forgot about that silly comment but from the press and certainly at Wimbledon and on the BBC site etc, it seems like Murray has a lot of support. You’d know better than I though obviously, being there and all. I think a lot of people like Murray though, in the USA, Canada, etc. Nole seems to have loads of support in Asia, for whatever reason.


Kimmi Says:

blank – i saw that before basel and valencia begins. murray messed up his chances in valencia though but still has a chance..a good showing in valencia could have really put him close.

well, murray likes master1000 tournaments, let hope he puts a good show in paris.


Kimmi Says:

jane- the race points give a better info than ranking point. right now in the race they are less than 400 points difference.


jane Says:

contador, I have Ernie winning until he runs into Roddick and then I went with the steadier guy. Go Ernests!


blank Says:

jane and Kimmi, you are right. I totally forgot Murray was defending Valencia. But if Murray wins Paris and Djoko loses early, he has a chance to claim # 3 ranking next week. Murray has only 90 points to defend there.


blank Says:

contador, are you still picking Gulbis? I have learned my lesson this year. Never pick Cilic or Gulbis or Querry until they show they can do it.


Huh Says:

Fedend is hilarious, hahaha, how insightful! ;)


dimwitted recluse Says:

Daniel – “get this feeling with Nadal, more than everything he needs his mind totaly in the tourney to perform as best as he can. Just like Montecarlo this year and US Open, by far two of the most memorables performances of his career ” Spot on, imo. “If we put it in perspective it [i.e.Monte Carlo]was one of tennis greatest turn around point in a players career.” Yes, agreed, but only because people were stupidly writing Nadal off. He didn’t do so badly at Miami and Indian Wells, and in fact I thought his performances there were perfect launching pads for the clay season.

You’re so right, though, because there is this myth which has been promulgated that Nadal is so competitive by nature, he treat all tourneys the same – just goes all out for the win. This is such demonstrable nonsense. It completely takes out of account that winning important matches involves careful preparation, especially (where finely tuned players like top ten types are concerned)in the head. What happens on court to a degree reflects the prevailing level of desire. It just isn’t humanly possible to keep that desire at a permanant high pitch. Nadal always LOOKS as if he’s trying his best, and no doubt he is – at a strictly conscious level. Even so, there is Nadal mark1, Nadal mark2 and Nadal mark3 – just like all the other greats only, as you rightly say Daniel , even more so in Nadal’s case. At the O2, look for Nadal mark2 – it’s pretty important, but not top priority. At the AO, absolutely Nadal mark1. No one will beat him there who isn’t prepared to leave his guts out on the court – no good hoping for some help from Nadal (ue’s, df’s, etc).


jane Says:

Kimmi, you’re right. The race points make more sense as they already have Paris and WTF deducted. Very close. It doesn’t matter to me what happens with number 3. Whichever guy gets it, i’ll be happy. But do hope for that DC title … Frenchies will be tough!


margot Says:

conty: “twerp” is a lovely word! I also like v. much
“twit” “dunderhead” “plonker” “crikey” and “yikes.”
jane: stars of any show are Roger and Rafa, really difficult for the rest. Am surprised you say Andy has support in Canada, read somewhere he is disliked and had little support in Toronto. Even less now cos he beat Fed!
dimwit: I take back what I said about the length of your name….am going to cut and paste your comments at 1.23 and put them in a little shrine I’ve made…
blank: have joined bracket but as totally embarrassed by my “heart” choices, have changed my name ;)


Fedend Says:

“Federer has really cleaned up his act. It’s great, really. Perhaps it’s a credit to Annacone? Since the partnership, Federer has only failed to reach the finals in one event.”

ROTFL….and thats the one event which really counts….all others are irrelevant.


Huh Says:

Fedend=Maddened ;)


jane Says:

margot, well in my circles Murray is loved, but do have a bunch of Scots around ;) Overall though, I think Murray is very much liked in Canada. Lots of Scots live here, as well as Serbians. I know lots of people for whom Andy M is their absolute fave; my nephew is one of them.


Huh Says:

Daniel:

I don’t expect anything better from a last rung poster like Fedend.


jane Says:

Ernie with set one. Keep going!


blank Says:

margot, that’s cool! are you ‘tootyfrooty’? trust me, whether one does well or not, it’s fun. The more of us participating, the merrier it will be.

btw, I go to Toronto Masters every time it is held here. I haven’t noticed any crowd dislike for Murray. Federer is liked most, and every one else has good support, especially Nole.


jane Says:

margot, yippee, glad you joined. Don’t be embarrassed by heart choices, have done same myself, as have many of us. What’s sport without some heart!?


contador Says:

dimwitted recluse-

i like the irony of your alias. clearly you are not a dimwit and you seem too talkative and social for a recluse. are you grendel? if not i apologize for the error.

anyway, you have a point i dont really know. federer never winning paris could work both ways – he could be motivated to win or those in the camp thinking paris is not a priority or he doesn’t like playing there, as the bleacher writer postualtes in the link i posted last night, could be right.

i just happen to make the guess that federer feels pretty happy right now with his home town win and will hold back in paris, saving something for london. just a complete guess. who knows about federer!

———

ernie took the first set!!! wooooooot

blushing. not supposed to get too excited…


contador Says:

cant type and watch livescore! s/b postulates

go ernie!


margot Says:

blank: my cover is blown straight away!! :)
re Toronto, that’s good to hear, never believe journalists eh?
jane : that’s gr8. All my family and friends are passionate Andy fans..or else…


Kimmi Says:

ok, i have to admit i had to google dimwitted and recluse.

dimwitted: mentally retarded; relatively slow in mental function..

recluse: someone in isolation who hides away from the attention of the public, a person who lives in solitude.

ha-ha dimwitted recluse, very funny. why give your self such a name? i wonder!


contador Says:

jane! you are either a fool or a prescient genius….

ahhhhh a good enough !! gulbis wins by default!

i’ll take it. ( sorry chela, get well soon )

chela retired.

yep. i only picked gulbis for 1 win. hope he proves me a fool.


jane Says:

contador, most definitely NOT a prescient genius; usually lose. But. Good to see Ernests come through, and hope he can go a little further. :)


contador Says:

hello blank. was just looking at your bracket. i do admire your brackets. you pick with the heart!

well i get temporarily mad at players when they underperform for whatever reasons: soda pop, cilic, davy, gulbis, verdasco especially. but querrey hasn’t become a favorite yet. berdych never really has been a favorite.

all the above have been bracket busters as picks. but the “never picking so and so” doesn’t work really. i picked cilic and davy both to go farther than they probably will. ah well


contador Says:

yeah , i hope ernie goes further too. gladly sacrifice bracket for him.

hm, blank. i posted to you but i don’t see it here.

anyway i like your bracket very much : ) definitely picking winner from the heart.

better get something done with the day.

good luck bracket challengers!!


contador Says:

i’ll try this again. tried to post a shout out to blank twice but posts not going thru


Kimberly Says:

Just got done working out and now reading all of these comments!!!

Yay Ernie, sorry Chela. Hope Ernie wins the tourney (yeah right)

Most of these comments are very funny. And Margot, your heart choice in my opinion is probably the smart pick for this tourney!!

Actually contador you are right, the posts on this site are actually high level and less degrading than on livestream chats and many of the tournment websites.

Actually I feel Rafa will face an enormous amount of pressure as he is the favorite essentially in every event he contests. At least Fed had a break for the clay season during his reign. Makes me nervous!!!!


margot Says:

jane: u must be “prescient genius”!! I have two out of two wrong so far, so much egg on face I can serve breakfast off it ;) Good to chat 2 u and all the gang today, life would be very, very dull if we all agreed…though more peaceful…’Night


dimwitted recluse Says:

contador and Kimmi

since no tennis is on right now, I’ll be self-indulgent and tell you whence the alias (definitely no irony, b.t.w.). Others – please scroll.

It turns out that at the beginning of the 19th century, American and European sailors, upon returning home from China, sometimes brought with them a set of 7 geometrical shapes. These comprised 5 triangles (2 large, 1 medium and 2 small), a parallelogram and a square, and if put together as in a jigsaw, they can make up a larger square. they became quite a craze, apparently, (the mysterious East and so on) rather as Sudoku has become. For all kinds of intriguing figures, mainly people in rather haunting, angular poses, can be made of these shapes. “Cartoonists of the day captured the craze by portraying men unwilling to go to bed with their wives, chefs unable to do the cooking and doctors refusing to attend patients because they were too busy rearranging triangles”. These shapes, by the way, have come to be known as “tangrams”, and will be familiar to some schoolchildren. The first compilation of figures was made in the early 1800′s by a Chinese writer who never divulged his name, but called himself “Dim-Witted Recluse”. I liked the name, which was playful – but I also liked that he evidently had no interest in fame, money and so on, when it seemed to have been his for the taking.

Now consider this character “grendel”. First of all, he is one of the main protagonists of just about the most boring poem in the annals of English, possibly world, literature. He is supposed to be a mighty monster, but this is an unhappy monster, a monster not at ease with himself, which is no doubt why he strikes such preposterous poses. You can’t help feeling he’s trying to convince himself – after all, his mother is undoubtedly the genuine item, a proper terrifying monster. I think “grendel” has unresolved mother issues. All this might have been quite interesting,but some how it isn’t and generations of unfortunate young men and women have been forced to read this tedious drivel simply because the English Literary powers that be suffer from penis envy (they tend to look worriedly over their shoulders at the scientists, and are always looking for ways in which they too might be called scientific). Quality is assumed to entail difficulty, and it is definitely difficult to read Beowulf. Thus “grendel”. A disaster area in my view.

Now it seems to me that anyone moving from “grendel” as his nom de plume to “dimwitted recluse” – considering the wildly different provenances of these two names – could well be said to have a somewhat severe identity problem. Do I have a severe identity problem? Well, apart from the fact that I sometimes pretend to myself that I am Federer, a Federer moreover who has triumphantly solved the problem of Nadal – a sad, disconsolate figure in these reveries – I don’t think so. But then, it’s not for me to judge, is it?


jane Says:

But I like “Beowulf”, specifically because grendel is a failed monster with mother issues. It’s hilarious, and all that gothic stuff with the dragon is rather fun too. Oh well, to each his/her own. There are drawbacks, namely with the main character’s over-the-top heroics and speeches, but if you read it for the monsters, then it’s can be enjoyable enough.


Von Says:

LOL, the mudslinging is hilarious!!

It’s the clan vs. Fedend.

I really don’t understand why there’s so much anger because it’s a sort of reciprocity situation, as you give so shall you receive. And,if you attack someone’s fave, don’t you expect to receive the same in retaliation from them?

That said, when the Fed clan starts attacking Nadal, and it becomes pay back time, why are you so offended? From what I’ve read on this thread today, which is probably the worst I’ve seen for the ganging up since I’ve been posting — SOME OF the Fed fans have come out en masse and they outnumber Fedend, I simply don’t get their anger. It’s only fair, isn’t it? If you attack, then expect to be attacked in return. However, it should be a one on one, but that will never happen.

The real problem lies in the FACT that there is a huge differential in Fed fans favour, and because of that, even if there is a problem of a Nadal poster having an argument with one Fed fan, it’s not a one on one, but he/she has to be beaten down by the whole clan. It’s not fair, but it’s sadly how the system works on this site.

Many of the Fed fans posting today have been pretty vociferous in the past with respect to Nadal, so I suppose Fedend feels this is his perfect moment to strike, and strike he did, but I think he forgot the clan would each have their say and get each other’s back.

To reiterate, in the past, this site was supported mainly by Fed fans, and they were well-supported by the other Fed fans in whatever they said, no matter how wrong it was. I know, I suffered through all the insane Roddick attacks, and no one spoke up on Roddick’s behalf — I was like on no man’s Island. How could they? It would have been the same as we’re witnessing today — a revolt by the masses. As a result of the past, there are very few roddick fans around, and if they are, they are afraid to speak up because they dont want to disrupt the sleeping lions.

I’m a neutral concerning Fed and Nadal, and it’s what I’ve observed that’s been happening on this site, of late However, nowadays it seems to be even worse, as the more intelligent Fed posters have stopped posting, and we have a back-scratching group, which takes precedence more than anything else, whereby my fave automatically becomes your fave, if I want to be in the clan loop.

Anyway, those are my observations, which are mild, but it’s not worth it to elaborate more. I’m already an outcast, thus, if anyone takes umbrage to what I’ve said, don’t reply in words, just SHOOT ME.

BTW, CONGRATS to Fed on his Basel title. And, to those of his fans, the very nice ones, whom I’ve grown to respect and like over the years, enjoy this win.

I’m going to be a bit nostalgic in saying I miss the strong posters such as MMT, Voicemale1, Long Live the King, skorocel, giner, JCF, Kroll, my Mon Ami, Veno, and many others who for reasons known only to them, have stopped gracing this forum with their intelligent, insightful and illuminating posts. I enjoyed their posts immensely. That was when Tennis.x, really lived up ito it’s name.

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Huh: glad to see you behaving so sedately. Good job.
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grendel/ aka dr, why did you even bother to change your name. Usually, people go for a name change to have a new beginning, but you’re the same as you’ve always been. I’m asking out of curiosity as there has to be some underlying reason, which is not apparent to me.


dimwitted recluse Says:

yes, but it goes on and on, interminably. chappie needed an editor.


Ben Pronin Says:

Fedend, why don’t you tell Federer that Basel is irrelevant.

I know the US Open is a lot more important in just about every possible way, but it’s not like Federer flamed out. If nothing else, he played well throughout the event, unlike during the 2 slams prior. His form is coming together nicely and it’d be pretty awesome to see him win the TMC (calling it WTF is just, it’s too much).


Von Says:

“Fedend, why don’t you tell Federer that Basel is irrelevant.”

Again, this is funny and somewhat incongruent. I remember, way back, when Fed stopped playing the smaller tourneys, which some of his fans, deemed to be unimportant, used to laugh at the Roddick fans for celebrating whenever Andy won a smaller tourney, as they deemed it an inconsequential win. There’s a Fed poster, whom I’ve grown to respect and like, but he was one of many who subscribed to that thought process, and made fun of Roddick. Now, it’s the reverse now that Fed hasn’t been winning as much, and the small tourney wins now evoke a certain am ount of appreciation with so much emphasis. How times have changed, and it’s sorta funny to me to see how the posters’ thought processes change to match the situation.


Von Says:

dr: I’m lost, which chappie neded an editor, you???


Von Says:

An apology for my bad typing errors, but my CTS is acting up again. I know the MAD-max has criticized me for not doing a good job of spelling, but, I’m not offended, as I know what I know. My many A levels plus my blue ribbons for numerous spelling bee contests, are proof that I can spell. That said, MAD-max, what I’ve learnt, you’ll probably never match in your lifetime. Oh BTW, *umbrage* which is a word you picked up from one of my past posts on another site an d used it back to me, is not spelt “umbridge”. You’re like the guy who copied his friend’s homework, and copied his name also, thus enabling him to be caught red-handed. LOL that said, don’t criticize me, as you’re worse because I don’t copy anyone’s words.


madmax Says:

Fedend Says:
FEDTARDS,
Keep dreaming about beating Rafa. In the last 3 years Rafa was beaten by Federer only once. So you guys have to wait 3 more years to see a win somewhere in a 250 or a 500 tourney.

November 7th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

yeah, that’s right deadend. oh dear. we really do have a short memory don’t we?

von, yawn in that elongated bagpuss style. you’re so boring. rather than always blame everything on fed fans, why not put your two cents worth in and aim it at deadend, slyguy and whoever else has a similar alias. seems you pick on the wrong people, can only be because you secretly support.

grendel/dr (diminished responsibility?) :), you really are the most interesting person on this forum. so historically knowledgeable – you can have as many aliases as you like!


Von Says:

@ 725 pm: Yawn, am falling asleep.


Von Says:

“grendel/dr (diminished responsibility?) :), you really are the most interesting person on this forum. so historically knowledgeable – you can have as many aliases as you like!”

Incongruence big time to suit the occasion and the person. Other people are given aliases they don’t possess, but when it’s one of the favored few, it’s unquestionably condoned. LOOL, how infantile!!!!!!!


Fedend Says:

Ben Pronin,

“Fedend, why don’t you tell Federer that Basel is irrelevant”

Federer is a legend on his own in making such statements, I need not him.
He is the one who “educated” me that these tourneys are irrelevant.

Did you forget Federer’s (another sour grapes) statement after losing Madrid final that the loss to Rafa was “irrelevant” because the clay court season will be decided in Roland Garros.

So based his own words the summer Hardcourt season was already sealed in US open. These minor tourneys are absolutely IRRELEVENT.

Did you guys forget Federer’s stetement…oh what a pity !!!

Madass…oops madmax,
I agree You FEDTARDS do really have short memory.


Skeezerweezer Says:

Wow, so after all the non tennis babble, there was some great posts about Feds win, another undeniable nail in the coffin of GOATHood. Novak also showed again he belongs with the elite and will be knocking on the #1 door for years to come.

Fed, for now, is back and no babbling will take away another title earned for the record books.

Go Fed!


Skeezerweezer Says:

Now were on “irrelevant”, oMG, whats next? Goodnight Fedend, sleep tight….


Ben Pronin Says:

Fedend, I don’t really see what you’re trying to get at. I remember what Federer said after Madrid and I never agreed with him. A Masters event is never irrelevant.

Basel might not be a big tournament in the grand scheme of things, but for Federer it’s huge. I’m sure Djokovic wanted to win today and isn’t going to say “well it’s irrelevant so I don’t care that I lost.” But does Basel add a lot to Federer or Djokovic’s respective careers? Not really. Unless this is the last tournament Federer ever wins, it’s going to blend into the majority of his other 65 titles that aren’t slams or Masters.

Von, I don’t know what you’re trying to say, either. I’d love to see an example of someone laughing at a Roddick fan for celebrating a smaller title. Roddick’s won at least one title for, I think, 9 straight years. The only other guy who can make the same claim is Federer. In that streak, it makes no difference what the title was, a title is a title. Most importantly, though, is that winning any title gives a player confidence. Federer’s crap play in these “irrelevant” tournaments finally caught up to him in the slams this year. Imo, that’s why he’s putting in an effort to get his act together.


dimwitted recluse Says:

Von says:
“dr: I’m lost, which chappie neded an editor, you???” The author of Beowulf, actually – I was responding to jane, an appreciator. Two more points to her: 1)some Uni depts still insist this tiresome epic be studied in the Anglo-Saxon. Imagine that! You spend ages and ages learning a dead language simply so as you can read – well! i mean, reading Chaucer in the original is fine and indispensible in fact to get true pleasure from the experience – but this is real, vital English. Anglo-Saxon might as well be Martian.2)I am being provocative, of course jane. Peoples’ tastes are really their own business, and you come across as a genuine enthusiast. You’re in good company,too Tolkein, C.S.Lewis, Seamus Heaney etc. I’ve got Kingsley Amis on my side, which I daresay you might think is a mixed blessing.

However, Von, it’s an excellent point you make nevertheless. I do desperately need an editor. Perhaps you will volunteer? I disagree with your take on Roddick, b.t.w., I think he’s a great player who hasn’t really been given his due – and for what it’s worth, I’ve said so many times on this site. Even when you and I were fighting hammer and tong (do i detect a resurgence of hostility in your tone? you’ll have to go solo, if that is the case, life really is too short), for instance when I criticised Roddick for his attitude to Nishikori, I was praising what I saw as a greatly improved bh – and I predicted Roddick was likely to do well. He did – was it Dubai he won? Anyway, my point is I just don’t think Roddick has the cachet to generate enormous enthusiasm in the way Fed and Nadal do and Djokovic might and even possibly Murray. That has nothing whatever to do with this site. It is the case on all the tennis sites that I am aware, and this simply reflects the external reality. There are devoted fans such as yourself, of course, and plenty of players have these, and that’s all to the good. But Roddick is nowhere near attaining the sort of cult like status of Federer and Nadal – and I say this as someone who doesn’t like cults, of any kind, sporting, religious whatever. But that, unfortunately, is the way o the world.

About names – it’s just play, you know. Nothing else. I was once tempted to call myself 4 Turntables – a couple of years ago there wewre some lively debates in a tennis blog in The Guardian, and one of the best of these posters was called 4 Turntables. I thought this was a wonderful name, and wondered if I might sneakily pinch it – surely this guy didn’t come on Tennisx. I decided reluctantly that would have been a bit reprehensible.


jane Says:

d.r. – yes, Anglo-Saxon would be just dumb and tedious. The manuscript itself barely survived. Let’s do read it in English translation, like we read Kafka or whomever. I read Heaney’s version and of course Tolkein’s little essay. I prefer classical epics, actually, like the Aeneid, and i wouldn’t call myself a Beowulf “enthusiast,” yet I don’t think it needs to be banished. Most early survey courses make it optional, but Chaucer, Shakespeare and Milton are required. I like to throw in Beowulf (as well as Sir Gaiwan, the female mystics, etc) to mix it up. These earlier eras aren’t really my forte.


Vulcan Says:

That must of been some excursion out to the garden!
Enough time to tend to an army of Bonzai trees!
Surely an introspective one that has resulted in the whimsical moniker that Jane (or was it Margot?) spotted like a hawk (ahh the thought synchronization runs very deep amongst you Brits).
Well, welcome back amigo, certainly watching Federer win Basel must of been a nice vacation for you!


contador Says:

very lively and funny post dimwitted recluse!

thank you for your insight into “grendel” and the amusing explanation of “dimwitted recluse.”

i hope you don’t mind if i refer to you as “dr” ?

btw grigor is scheduled to play ram sometime today, late evening your time. looking at the german challenger schedule novak’s younger brother marko is slotted to play big serving julian reister before dimitrov’s match. there is a stream atm on fromsport.com for the challenger but i’ll be at work. go grigor!


Von Says:

DR: “Even when you and I were fighting hammer and tong (do i detect a resurgence of hostility in your tone?”

Belieive me, I do not have the desire and/or will/stamina to go another round with you or anyone. As can be seen from my posts, I abstaina lot, and try to make myself as scarce as possible, thereby eliminating friction. But, despite it all, I do manage to get myself into some scrapes, and it’s not intentional, but it happens, nonetheless.

My question was based merely out of curiosity and not as a put down contrary to what your champion thinks. OY. It would be wonderful if the meddlesome few would leave people to fight their own battles instead of butting in when it does not in any way pertain to them.


margot Says:

Oh dr dr my heart goes bumpity bumpity..
bumpity bumpity?
yes, bumpity bumpity….
am incensed u want to drop Beowolf! Anglo Saxon is one of the roots of modern English, agree with jane, liked this failed monster with oedipal hangups, far better as a nom de plume. dr seems a tad arch to me.
anyway..back to tennis..had not realised deliciano has not got a backhand, astonishing, has he had a magic cloak to disguise this all these years?
shock horror de Bakker makes a million unforced errors…and..surprise, surprise, loses !


dimwitted recluse Says:

margot – there’s anglo-saxon and anglo-saxon. D’you know Pound’s translation of The Seafarer? Wonderful. i can’t help suspecting some things attain weight simply because there’s a bit of a vacuum in that area. And vica versa – jacobean drama is pretty impressive but tends to get ignored (except by the scholars and sod them)because of the gigantic presence of you know who. This is true in other fields, too. Henman got way too much attention – relative to his objective worth (a good but not great player as his friend Sampras once rather cruelly said) – simply because poms were short on the ground. Changed your view about “my” name, eh? Yes, I’m getting pretty sick of it too. It wasn’t arch as used originally, but the Chinese man who adopted it had earned the right to use it without being suspected of affectation. Didn’t think of that. Wish I hadn’t said that about 4 Turntables, and then I could use that – that name’s something else, man!

Von, if you feel like posting, surely you should post. I think you’re a bit like me in one way, and that is that you sometimes cause offence without meaning to, and are then genuinely surprised when the dog bites back. We’re both of us awkward customers, though in quite different ways no doubt. I’ll let you into a little secret – when a year or two ago I was looking back at old blogs, trying to find something you’d said (yes, how ludicrous, wldn’t do that now!), I came across several posts of yours I hadn’t seen before and couldn’t help being very impressed. They were calm ones, though….

As for the posters you mentioned who are missing and whom you miss – maybe they are just busy, and so maybe will, from time to time, return. It’s bloody time consuming, this stuff can be, I find – but then of course, once you get me started, I can’t stop..

Vulcan – yes, I was sort of thinking of Candide who, when at a loss, considered the garden. Actually, margot’s the gardener; I enjoy looking at them, being in them, but not working them, though I’ll do my bit if pushed. Re Federer – wonder if we’ll ever see another Federer/Nadal match? Events seem to conspire against it.

Contador – I didn’t know you could watch Challengers on stream, that’s interesting. Also, about Djoko’s brother – is he any good? Didn’t Djokovic once say that the youngest one is the best of the lot?

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