Out-Of-Shape Americans Serena, Roddick Upset; Nadal, Murray Close In On Miami SF, But Will Rafa’s Knee Hold Up?
by Sean Randall | March 27th, 2012, 11:39 pm
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What a difference 24 hours makes in Miami. Monday night Andy Roddick blitzed nemesis Roger Federer for one of his best career wins and halted a ranking death spiral. This evening, just the opposite. A listless Roddick had virtually nothing to offer Juan Monaco in a deflating 7-5, 6-0 loss in the fourth round of the Miami Tennis Masters.

Roddick started strong, though defensively, yanking the Argentine around the court to secure early break to go up 4-3. But that was it for the American. After reaching 5-5 Roddick was done. Physically done.

Monaco reeled off the last eight games to hand Roddick on of his most disappointing defeats on American soil.

“When you have to make a quick recovery, it will expose you if you’re not in shape,” admitted Roddick. “Most people can play a match and it’s fine. It’s the recovery where it kind of defines you. You know, there are a lot of positives out of this week. I feel healthy. I played matches, and I was running hard. My lack of any sort of fitness regime on my leg is apparent, but that’s something that is a matter of work. It’s not a matter of health. That’s something that’s in my control. I just didn’t have it physically. I got to about 4 All, and I was you know, I’m out of shape. That’s it.”

And that’s it for Roddick’s hardcourt season until the summer. Andy will have to seriously work on his fitness during the tough claycourt season or he’s going to continue to struggle and labor.

“Right now my priority is I feel like there is a little bit of a window to get right,” Roddick said. “I’m playing a very, very heavy summer schedule from Queen’s, Wimbledon, pretty much straight through the US Open. So I’m gonna go when I feel fit and ready. I’m certainly gonna get some in before the French, that’s for sure. But my priority from tomorrow on is getting in shape, dropping weight, and building strength.”

After Roddick’s upset, it was up to Serena Williams to restore the American order in Florida. But it was not to be. An overly aggressive Caroline Wozniacki exposed Serena’s movement in putting together one of her greatest wins defeating the 13-time Slam champ 6-4, 6-4 for the first time.

“I think I just struggled a bit with a lot of errors more than anything, I guess both on the return and she did well, she moved well, and I just made too many errors,” Serena said.

“The good thing is I could’ve played a lot better,” she added. “I probably played about 20%. You know, it would really suck and if I had to sit here and say I couldn’t do any better. That’s not the case.”

We often give Serena the benefit of the doubt these days in often making her the favorite at just about every tournament she enters. But facts are facts, she’s just not winning anymore. Sam Stosur beat her at the US Open, Ekatarina Makarova at the Australian and now Wozniacki. And her last Slam title came in the summer of 2010 at Wimbledon just before she suffered that mysterious foot injury.

Serena is still an incredible force in women’s tennis, but now at age 30 she’ll need to play more tournaments and get more matches to continue to compete for the big tennis prizes. And I’m not sure she has that in her.

As for Wozniacki, off this confidence-building win maybe bigger things await.

“Serena is a great champion and I have much respect for her,” Wozniacki said. “I thought I played a very good match out there. I’m very pleased about the way I was able to also close it out.”

Earlier in the day, after a slow start Rafael Nadal got into gear taking out Kei Nishikori. Mardy Fish continued his rebound enjoying a nice three-set win over Nicolas Almagro. Defending champion Novak Djokovic, Andy Murray, Janko Tipsarevic and JW Tsonga were also easy winners.

In the late match, my tournament pick Juan Martin Del Potro was sent packing by the bulldog David Ferrer 6-3, 6-3. Del Potro had some chances but couldn’t break through. Ferrer is just so darn tough, especially for an impatient youngster like Del Potro. And with Djokovic’s level not quite where it was a year ago, maybe Ferrer can pull the upset. Based on what I saw tonight he’s got a real chance.

Tomorrow in men’s quarterfinal action, Murray meets Tipsarevic in the daytime, Nadal gets Tsonga at night. I think Murray, who beat Gilles Simon, appears to be in form and, led by Ivan Lendl, motivated and he should prevail over Janko.

In the evening, I had Tsonga beating Nadal at this stage and I’ll stick with it. I think the nighttime helps the Frenchman against Rafa who had the first match of the day Tuesday and now plays the last one on Wednesday in a odd scheduling quirk. Nadal has never won the Miami title and his road to a first crown might go through three players who have given him trouble: Tsonga, Murray and Djokovic.

And he’ll have to do it with a bad knee. Oh boy!

“During the week of Indian Wells, the knee was getting a little bit worse and I arrived here so so,” Nadal said. “I’m happy to play in the quarterfinals. I am probably not at perfect conditions today with the left knee, but the important thing is try to win as many matches as possible. For me, this is an important tournament, and every victory has very, very big value for me.”

The women’s last two semifinal spots will are set to be filled Wednesday. Winner of her last 26, world No. 1 Victoria Azarenka faces Marion Bartoli. In the sunshine, Venus Williams continues her remarkable comeback against the steady striker Agnieszka Radwanska. I think Azarenka prevails and I have to believe Venus is out of gas or at least running low on reserves. And against Radwanska, who gets an awful lot of ball back, you’ll need fitness.

The ESPN2 crew will have coverage from 1-5pm and then 7-11pm ET live.

WEDNESDAY MIAMI SCHEDULE

STADIUM Start 10:45 am
David Marrero (ESP)/Fernando Verdasco (ESP) v [7] Leander Paes (IND)/Radek Stepanek (CZE)
Not Before 1:00 PM
[WC] Venus Williams (USA) v [5] Agnieszka Radwanska (POL)
Not Before 3:00 PM
[9] Janko Tipsarevic (SRB) v Andy Murray (GBR)
Starting at 7:00 PM
[1] Victoria Azarenka (BLR) v [7] Marion Bartoli (FRA)
Not Before 9:00 PM
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) v [2] Rafael Nadal (ESP)


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204 Comments for Out-Of-Shape Americans Serena, Roddick Upset; Nadal, Murray Close In On Miami SF, But Will Rafa’s Knee Hold Up?

Kimberly Says:

I think Venus is in a with a chance against radwanksa if she has anything left in the tank. If she is playing well she will hit so many winners off her second serve. What is the Williams radwanksa head to head.


rave Says:

Knee injury? So sorry that you had and still have the knee injury. Good to know because we can spin it either way, win or lose. ANd the medical time out, that was a good strategy. ANd together with sideline coaching, pushing rules to the limit we have a winner, Rafael Nadal. He will finally beat the Djoker with his bad knee.


skeezerweezer Says:

rave…..lol

oh here we go again…I have a knee problem just in case I lose……but if I win sooo much better. I won with a bad knee and not perfect conditions….lmao

David Ferrer…the little Terrier Dog that never stops barking…….Go Daveeeedddd! At times you amaze me ;)


Andrea Says:

Nice win for Wozniaki…she needed a boost.

Nacho f must be spewing flames at roddick right about now…..


Michael Says:

Agreed Roddick played the match of his life to upset Roger. But what is the use when he is getting beaten black and blue by a little known Monaco in straight sets and that too a baggle in the second set.


Steve 27 Says:

rave, are you learning from Shakespeare and his play Hamlet?
Be or not be is our dilemma


Michael Says:

As regards Murray Vs Tipsaveric, it should be a very close match with little margin for error. Although I would like Murray to win this one, you cannot write off Tipsaveric because of his better H2H against Murray. He always plays well against Murray. It is difficult to pick a winner in this match.
In the other match, you have Nadal pitted against Tsonga. The match is literally in Tsonga’s hands. It matters which Tsonga will face Nadal. The aggressive one or the error prone one. Considering that Nadal has physical problems yet again, it is sensible that we should pick Tsonga in this match, provided he plays well.


Steve 27 Says:

Ferrer is Duracell, energy as atomic bomb


jane Says:

Monaco is presently ranked number 21 in the world, and he was as high as 14 in 2008, so he’s not too shabby of a player! It’s not like he’s in the 100s or anything. He played a pretty good match versus Roger in Paris last year, for example. Anyhow, I just felt like giving Juan his due, a little bit. :)

I’ll repeat the H2Hs for the quarters I put on the other thread here:

Nole v Ferrer: 7-5
Murray v Tipsy: 4-3
Rafa v Tsonga: 6-3 (best win/loss record in all QF encounters)
Fish v Monaco: 2-2


Steve 27 Says:

Tsonga is crazy and has scatterbrain as Monfiles, Gasquet, nothing new
once he loses the aim, it will quickly lose focus and the match
Nadal with his bad knee in 3 tights set but yeah, he has no chance in this condition against the Clown


Michael Says:

Novak should be wary of David Ferrer who is playing very well. He is a real danger to his plans to retain Miami. Of the top four players, the only player who is so confident against Ferrer is Roger and the rest struggles against him. Is this another match-up issue ????


jane Says:

Michael, Nadal has a great record over Ferrer, as does Fed, but for Murray and Nole, Ferrer has always been a tough match. Maybe Ferrer’s experience comes into play versus them? Not sure.


Roger Federer Fan Says:

Rave and Skeezer,

Wow…Great posts

You have smartly pinned down Nadal the cheater here. Roddick, williams, Federer all gave excuses, but you have smartly picked up only Rafa. Thats the way to go mate.

Federer is the GOAT in tennis (and obviously all other sports) and Federer fans are GOAT fans….we hunt in packs.


Michael Says:

Jane,

Nadal has a 14-4 record against Ferrer, while Roger has an unblemished record against Ferrer where he leads in the H2H 12-0. In many of the matches I have seen Nadal play against Ferrer, he has run him very close while he struggles against Roger against whom he has not taken many sets. I am just wondering what is the reason for this except to say that match-up favours Roger more than the other three.


Michael Says:

Jane,

Regarding Monaco. I just meant that way when I compared him to the stature of Roger. I know well that Monaco is a very good player.


Colin Says:

On a previous thread, a certain someone said -

“When stakes are highest and dismissing chances at its perilous best, I’d always bet my money on GS holders like Roddick or Delpo to beat the top-dogs instead of the mental midget slam runners-ups!”
So,presumably he didn’t bet on Ferrer!


Steve 27 Says:

Roger Federer Fan is a freak, poor Rave and Skeezer,
I thought the Swiss fans were more intelligent and not mentally unbalanced as this character who thinks he is Federer


Steve 27 Says:

scary!


Kimberly Says:

Venus head to head v. Radwanksa is 6 to 1. Sharapova is 3-2 v. Wozniaki but with wozniaki winning 2 of the last 3 although sharapova did win their last match in Rome.


jane Says:

Michael, that Monaco post wasn’t directed at you. I just felt like someone should toot Juan Monaco’s horn that’s all. :) Nothing big meant by it, though I do think he’s a pretty darn good hard court player, and how nice for him to have reached the quarter finals of this masters. I’ll bet most of us could’ve seen two other Argentines getting there (Nalby Delpo) but not Monaco. So there you go: more evidence that you just never know!

3/4 big four made it to the semis of IW. Will 3/4 make it to the semis in Miami??


adam Says:

nadal with the disclaimer coming right before his big matches once again. getting pretty tired of it.


skeezerweezer Says:

Roger Federer Fan Says,

“Wow…Great posts”

Coming from you that really means something…

Thanks!!


King Federer Says:

why are tennis umps such jokers? why do they let nadal get away with

a) coming 10minutes late to the match
b) all the crazy time-wasting picking his @$$ and uncle toni’s @$$. i am sure if the umps let him get away, he would not mind picking the @$$ of all the spectators having “under wear malfunctions”!

c) taking a time-out right before the opponent’s serve!

i hope they set his @$$ straight in more ways than one.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I’m not sure if Nadal is giving pre-excuse, if he has to lost in any of the remaining matches.

But I see this as a message to Roger, just to let him know he beat Nadal who was injured with knee issue. I think Roger would have gotten the message.


Wade Says:

Nadal isn’t bending any rules his using it to full advantage so good on him. It’s the ATP that need to change certain rules if this is to stop like shortening time it takes to serve and when to take rest room breaks etc. To those who oppose tough 5hit and long live the clay King and the GOLDEN SLAM Champ!!!

Vamos Rafa!!!!


Eric Says:

Speaking of Spanish-speaking, suppossedly clay-court players doing super well on hard courts… what’s up with Almagro? He’s gotten 10 times better on hard courts in the past year and a half. Anyone catch his match with Fish? Really great stuff. He’s kind of like Tipsy in that way — something must have just “clicked” in his head. Much better than two years ago.

It’s pretty amazing what you have to do to win points against most of the top 20-30 guys, from the baseline I mean, compared to even five years ago. Everyone seems more fit, more consistent, more dangerous. Great time to be a tennis fan. Just wish I could play like them…


Steve 27 Says:

of course, nirmal is a indirect to roger!
the blessed friendship comes to light, was a pantomime of the brand that sponsors both.
Both have been politically correct until now, no longer have to go back to don the mask again.
Maybe the fans who longed for competition as tough as the times of Connors, Lendl and Mc Enroe are jumping with happiness, of course journalists, too, now that is the bottom of this rivalry, are shown as they are. It’s better this way, their personal shortcomings but true, that only a nice speech for all?


steve-o Says:

Sorry for Roddick, he’s mounting a comeback from injury. The Masters tournaments are unforgiving because there’s no day of rest between matches.

Monaco is a good player but you would expect a fully fit Roddick to handle him. In Miami the tennis is very physical and Roddick clearly was unable to recover from his exertions against Federer.

Serena is too casual with her attitude. Now that she’s older, she needs to train harder and play more tournaments, she can’t just swoop in without preparation and win on sheer talent and physical superiority. I don’t know if she has the temperament to put in the work needed to become a force in tennis once again.


Brando Says:

Re nadal/ federer: if the rumours are true- and let’s be honest all we know is what we have read in articles by a gossip hungry media – then it is unfortunate. It was brilliant to see that rafa ad roger could compete highly against each other, but as soon as the match was over be friendly with the other. I hope the rumours are false, whatver disagreement they do have shall pass, and they’re still friendly with one another.


Michael Says:

Nirmal,

But I see this as a message to Roger, just to let him know he beat Nadal who was injured with knee issue. I think Roger would have gotten the message.

Is it so ?? In the same manner, Roger too was suffering from the after effects of flu and so if what Nadal says is true then the ground is even. A sick Roger beat an injured Nadal.


Jeanius Says:

@ Brando. Whom of the two do you think is the problem. Rafa knows he will never be in Rogers league. Obvious thing for him is to bend the rules to favour him in the long run re: his record. Thats bad, bad , bad


Michael Says:

It is pretty evident that the relationship between Roger and Rafa has soured over the player issues. There is a cold war brewing between both the players and Nadal is uncomfortable with Roger being the President of the Players Council. Inside his heart, he wants Roger out of the Players Council. He has grievance that Roger is not doing enough for the micro issues that he is concerned with – namely, the two year ranking system, time outs, time taken between serves, a better schedule for the players. On the other hand, Roger as Head of the Players Council is concerned about the macro issue and the concerns of not just the Top 10. He is taking a holistic view of the issues put across by the top five and try to balance it with the needs of the players outside the top five. Thus, in a way he is protecting the interest of the players at large. Roger is trying to find a delicate balance between the aspirations of the top five and the rest of the ATP tour. But that is difficult to reconcile. I am not sure how these issues are going to get resolved ??


Ajet Says:

For the certain another one who made reference to the post of a ”certan someone” in previous thread:

first of all, it wasn’t a do or die match for delpo in the sense that it was when roddick faced federer, because another loss to federer would have meant his record look 22-2, extremely pathetic(1 win in 11 matches) instead of the current 21-3(means 1 win in 7 matches)! Moreover another loss to federer woulda meant a growing demand or speculaton from press about his retirement and doomsday predictions! It means the stakes were so high for roddick to win as not only it meant gaining a bit respectability in the h2h against the super-nemesis and in the rivalry, but also some hope being raised for playing a bit longer with hope of doing something! this is called stakes being high!
not in delpo-ferrer match, coz even after loss nobody’s going to suddenly hope delpo of making any noise ever again in tennis! in fact as soon as the next turnament comes, fans will again hope for delpo to beat the top dogs! so there is no hopelesness involved in a loss to ferrer here, unlike in roddick’s case, where another loss to fed would have meant real hopelessness!

Secondly, talking of ”dismissing chances at its perilous best”, it has been said w.r.t. to that of dismissing chances at its perilous best of the slam winner; and so far as I know, only an idiot would have dismissed chances of delpo, when he was going to meet ferrer! but in federer-roddick match, nobody was giving roddick a sniffer’s chance considering how hot federer was playing combined with roddick’s obvious physical issues! thus, in that case dismissing of roddick’s chances were at perilous best!

Talking of dismissing chances at their perilous best, I’m sure ”the certain another one and his likes” would definitely have done that when roddick faced their boy murray when they met at wimby 2009! the talk of every tennis loving town was as if murray’s sure to roll over roddick like a bulldozer, but what happened is history!

And considering the fact that a remark was made about the certain someone presumably not betting on ferrer in the match, it can be easily made out where all this frustration is coming out from(especially that it involves delpo, with whom murray didn’t have much love at a point of time just because he protested murray’s brat behaviour of cheering his faults)! too bad that murray has not won a slam depsite all hype, getting schooled in all the slam finals he reached, but delboy, of whom the murray fanatics are so jealous(and also angry about delpo-murray fight as if all the wrong in the world in that matter was delpo’s!), won the slam like a man! I get your pain people! My sympathies! Hope your guy wins a slam soon!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Michael, You did not pick up the Sarcasm in my message.

Typically Nadal’s camp comes up with injury list after his loss against Roger. I thought they were quiet after the IW, but now it has come out.

For me it was expected.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Michael,

For Nadal his continuance of the VP is done, once the ATP president was chosen as per Roger’s choice. Nadal openly backed Richard, whereas Roger did not backup him up, as he wanted a typical CEO to take up not an ex player.

Once the candidate chosen per Roger, I just can’t visualize Nadal sitting in the same room seeing eye to eye with the ATP President and Roger. I don’t think Nadal would have resigned if Richard was chosen as President, even if the issues are not taken care.


alison hodge Says:

while i have to agree rafa does not do himself any favours,repeatedly bringing up injury issues,mtos,2 year rankings etc etc,could i just say can people stick to talking tennis instead of hurling personal insults at each other,some of the comments just lately on this forum,have become downright nasty.


Michael Says:

Nirmal,

I am sorry I couldn’t infer the sarcasm of your posting. I am not sure about the injury factor of Nadal. This comes out more often than not and Nadal’s career is seemingly plagued by injuries. But what I am surprised is that the injury more of than not doesn’t hinder his game and he runs as fast as he ever does on the court displaying his unbelievable retrievable abilities. This raises doubts on the minds of his detractors as to whether he is really injured or pretending, which is understandable.

On the election of the President for which Nadal has expressed his dissent by resigning, I think Nadal as a senior player should have shown some more maturity before taking such a drastic decision. He should have consulted Roger before leaking out his decision to quit. That is not the case and this shows that Nadal’s respect towards Roger is only on paper and not for real. Now this avoidable and questionable decision of Nadal has completely redefined the values of their friendship and the Media which is always waiting in the wings to flare up flames has a burning issue on hand which it would flog.


Michael Says:

Alison,

I tend to agree with you. We can criticize players but that should be done with decency.


Ajet Says:

I mean ”not in delpo-ferrer match, coz even after loss nobody’s going to suddenly give up hope of delpo making any noise ever again in tennis!”

in my previous post…


Ajet Says:

Speaking of criticising players, dunno why’s roddick being criticised for beating federer?? I mean, is he supposed to let roger federer win just because federer has supposedly better chance of winning title???
Sorry, but i don’t get it. no need to be so upset/mad/critical of roddick just because he played great to beat federer!
In fact, life’s very short and most uncertain. Nobody knows which could be the last match we’ve ever seen a guy play!

Thus, Roddick is right as he did what is said in the fantastic song:

”Tonight,
Give Me everything tonight
Give Me everything tonight
Give Me everything tonight…

For all we know, We may not have tomorrow,
Just Do It Tonight……..!!!”

He gave his everything the night he played against fed and made it a memorable night for himself as for his fans like me! Who knows how many of such good nights of tennis left in Roddick! Thus, well done roddick!

And roddick lost to monaco coz roddick couldn’t recover, but when he was ok, I’m glad he tried his best against fed and didn’t gift him another win..


alison hodge Says:

michael yeah good point,but i was thinking more on the lines of what posters have been saying to each other just lately,insulting up bringings,religions,one poster comparing another to a terrorist,is totally uncalled for.


Ajet Says:

Nadal’s eternal knee-injuries, perennial finger and joints pain, butt-spasms, abdomen swelling and shrinking, parent’s divorce and reunion parties on one side; and federer’s never ending old-age cough & fever, mono, back injury, baby-daughters induced sleeplessness, mom-dad concilliation meets on the other side! Add to it djoker’s muscle tightening, tiredness, sunstroke, windstroke, flu, asthma, bronchitis etc. etc.!!!

I REST MY CASE ON THESE THINGS!


Colin Says:

Michael, you said Tipsy has a winning head to head against Murray, did you not? Well, according to the ATP website he hasn’t. It’s 4-3 to Andy, too close to encourage predictions. Should be a good match.
I don’t much like tattoing, but if Janko’s got to have the thing, a quotation from Dostoevsky at least indicates a taste for literature, something not shared by Murray, I’m afraid.


Rahul Says:

Well said Alison… Too much speculation and character assassination. Im firmly in the Federer fan club, but while there is definite gamesmanship overall I think both players have handled their rivalry in a commendable manner. We sometimes forget that we are dealing with 2 players who hate to lose and that feeds into their competitive nature and ultimately success as well.

I would like to believe these “excuses” are more a case of justifying the loss to themselves rather than taking away from the other’s success. Maybe its idealistic but they deserve that benefit of doubt.


alison hodge Says:

i agree with ajet you have to give roddick great credit for a fantastic win over roger,but you also have to give juan monarco great credit for a great win,over probably an emotionally spent a.rod,as the saying goes your only as good as your last game.


Michael Says:

Colin,

I knew it was 4-3 in favour of Murray. But my statement Tipsaveric’s better H2H against Murray was somewhat misleading. I stand corrected. Nevertheless should be a good match and I am unable to predict the winner. But I would give a slight edge to Murray.


alison hodge Says:

thanks Rahul and right back at you,i think sometimes we forget that they are human beings as well as tennis players,and some fans take the hero worshipping way too far.


roy Says:

actually nadal can happily take many more federer losses without a care. the H2H is so embarassingly lopsided, he can afford some charity.
the federer fans are of course desperate to try and save some face before their hero retires. every federer victory is an enormous event for them.

but they should also count their blessings. because if ages had been switched and a prime nadal was playing 17,18,19,20 year old federer…boy, it would have been even uglier by now.
but hey, fed might have got a few wins from 22 onwards, who knows. for example, after nadal has a 4hour match with djoker the day before, like in that madrid masterclass.

of course if ages were switched, and federer shared a generation with players like murray and djoker, well it’s pretty obvious GOAT talk wouldn’t even exist for him. so the H2H wouldn’t be an issue anyway.

not that it is…because clay isn’t a real surface for starters. and more importantly it’s unfair federer has a crap backhand and can’t handle the forehand like murray and djoker and nalbandian and davydenko and youzhny and phil kohl and…well anyone with a great backhand.
just a bad match up.


trufan Says:

Nadal isn’t just bending rules – he is breaking them constantly. Changing the rules won’t help. They need to enforce the rules – especially time violations.

Sore loser, Nadal – now, yet again, comes out his injury excuse. And he is still running like a rabbit. Enough with the ass picking.

The clay courts of Miami have shown yet again how slow they are. Ferrer beating Delpo, straight sets? Wow. Ferrer couldn’t beat Nadal or Fed, nor will he beat Djoke.

Murray had a good shot this time – slow hard courts – perfect for him.

But someone needs to put this spoilt kid in place – and he is not a kid anymore – Nadal. Excuses, excuses, excuses, time delay, time delay, time delay. Enough with it.


RZ Says:

I like Rafa, but I’m tired of him talking about all of his injuries. Like others have said, if you take the court, you’re saying you’re ready to play.

Great win for Wozniaki! I liked the aggressive style she took on for many of the points against Serena (for the few games I saw).


Humble Rafa Says:

I’m not sure if Nadal is giving pre-excuse,

How can you be not sure? I mean, it is not like you have been living in a cave. You know me, don’t act like you don’t.


Humble Rafa Says:

But someone needs to put this spoilt kid in place – and he is not a kid anymore – Nadal. Excuses, excuses, excuses, time delay, time delay, time delay. Enough with it.

Chill Brother. A fit Rafa never loses. All this is just cover for my upcoming loss. No need to freak out. Everything is going as planned.


Kathy Says:

Why is it OK for Federer to tell us that he was ill in Indian Wells, but it’s a crime against humanity for Nadal to mention the pain in his knees? Federer wasn’t exactly hampered by his bout of flu,as Peter Fleming commentator on UK Sky said, “It affected him so much that if he hadn’t have told us about it we would never have noticed he had it.”

Michael, Do we know that Nadal didn’t dicuss his resignation from the player council with Federer? If he didn’t then why should he, it was a personal decision. Maybe he was tired of banging his head against the wall, it seems pretty obvious that Federer doesn’t want to rock the boat and Nadal just wasn’t prepared to go by the old adage, ‘If you can’t beat them, join them’


Colin Says:

RZ, I didn’t see any of the match with Serena – wish I had, but I have to get SOME sleep – and it will be interesting to see how Caroline reacts. Will it encourage her to be aggressive more often?


RZ Says:

Kathy, because Federer only does it once in a while, whereas now Rafa seems to talk about injuries all the time!


RZ Says:

Colin, I hope so! Caro was hitting the ball deep, running Serena around from one corner to the other, and putting away her backhand down the line.


Steve 27 Says:

Jamie, you sai the Clown will win Miami, lets wait until Sunday if you prediction are true


Kathy Says:

Selective memory RZ. Federer has been making excuses for as long as I can remeber,

Wimbledon 2001 “Well, I think it’s groin, I don’t know. I mean, it happened in the first match.”

USO 2001 2 Also now, coming back from the injury,”

Stuttgart 2001 “I think mentally I don’t feel very good at all in the moment. Still fighting back a little bit from injury. The injury is still not gone totally. I still feel it a little bit”

NASDAQ-100 Open “I got a cold like two days ago, before the match of Lleyton. So I don’t know. Blocked nose, I have a sore throat.”

I could go on and on and on.


Andre Says:

Serena will do better.. Someone has to win and lose. Love you Serena!!!


Mark Says:

@Kathy. And don’t forget Wimbledon 2010 when he lost to Berdych citing a bad back.


sylvia Says:

Andrea
“Nacho f”??


Andre Says:

But that how it goes. A player beat a great player to win the match of their life, then turn around and lose the next match.


Mark Says:

@RZ. Rafa has chronic tendenitis in case you didn’t know. This can flare up at any time. So why the surprise and constant criticizing every time he has an mto for his knees???


trufan Says:

Nadal Tsonga should be fun. I hope Tsonga can keep it together on these clay courts of Miami…

Djokovic would be eager to beat ferrer, since he can then have an easy semi before the final.

I hope Murray makes the semi, and even the final. He is due for a title, at least a masters title – he won Cincy last year just because Djoke was injured.

If Nadal beats Tsonga, it would be fun to watch Nadal Murray – would be a long match, most probably. And Nadal will complain about his knees, his butt, everything – but then run like a rabbit for 4 hours.

Fed can now take almost 6 weeks off before madrid. I think its a wise move to skip MC. Because then, he potentially has only a total of 6 weeks off between Madrid and the USO – almost a 5 month stretch of 2 slams, olympics, 4 masters, and one other tournament. That’s almost 10,000 points up for grabs, where he is defending just about 2,500 points. That will be the ranking determining period. Period.


Steve 27 Says:

and the “lucky shot” Mark. When you are young and invencible all is perfect, but when your old and beatable your own self comes out and all your miseries come to light.


RZ Says:

Kathy, even with a looooong list of every single Federer excuse, Rafa’s list would go longer. I can’t remember the last time Rafa entered a tournament without a complaint about something. Like I said earlier, I do like Rafa. I’m just tired of him bringing up his injuries all the time.


RZ Says:

Mark, first off, my saying that I’m tired of Rafa bringing up his injuries isn’t constant criticizing from me. If you review all the other Tennis-X comments, you won’t see too many where I criticize Rafa for his ailments. I understand he has tendonitis in his knee, and I understand that it’s a constant worry for his ability to play often, be competitive, and have a sustained career. But as I’ve mentioned above, it seems to have gotten to the point where he can’t play a tournament without talking about having an injury.

I’m glad Rafa is doing some things differently this year, like taking February off. It should only help his body by giving him more rest. I just hope he skips the smaller clay tournaments he usually plays (like Barcelona) to continue with that rest.


Ben Pronin Says:

Nadal has been plagued with injuries since the beginning of his career. But even he admits that they’ve never been all that serious to the point where his career is being cut short. He’s been in the top 2 for how many years now? How many years in a row has he won at least 1 slam? How many Masters has he racked up in all this time, not to mention countless other titles?

No, his injuries are not a cause for concern as far as his ability to play often, be competitive, and have a sustained career.


sheila Says:

it was gr8 c-ing wozniacki play aggressive 4 achange. 4 her 2win a major she really needs 2play aggressively. hope she continues playing more aggressively, although it was hard 4me 2root against serena. i like both players. i guess i was taken aback by nadals sudden mto. he said his knee was bothering him in iw & i heard nothing about it. i’m watching the nadal-nishikori match & its really tight, on serve @ 4-5, nishikori 2 serve & suddenly nadal takes a mto. then nadal is running around as if nothing was bothering him. i have knee problems & i’m sorry if i try running around (true i’m not a professional athlete, nor am i nadals age), but still its really hard to run w/knee problems. just saying?????


trufan Says:

If Rafa skips a couple of clay tournaments, he will never accumulate the points needed to be No 1, or even No 2. His titles count would be just a couple each year, and he might not even be that sharp at the FO. Two months start mid April is Nadal’s MAIN SEASON – he HAS to be 5 clay tournaments, so that he can notch up 25 or so wins, hopefully 4-5 titles, 1 slam, a couple of masters – without these, his resume would never look anywhere close to as good as it looks now.

Remember, Nadal is a ridiculous 231-18 on clay, but 323-101 outside of clay. 32 titles on clay, only 14 outside of clay. So CLAY is where he makes HAY….

As I had outlined on a previous thread – if you look at ANY of the top players in the last 45 years who have won multiple slams – Rafa is the most dependent on a single surface. His resume is more one-sided. Its not like he is a bad player outside of clay – he pretty good, since he really fights and works hard. Just that he is not GREAT outside of clay.

So Rafa HAS to continue to play many tournaments on clay every year, otherwise he will never accumulate any statistics worth remembering…


sheila Says:

btw i think nadal will win tsonga, although tsonga if he was consistent & playing well should really beat nadal. tsonga has an incredible game but mentally i just dont c him pulling it out. nadal is so hard 2beat because he is the tuffest mentally out of any player i have ever watched. hes incredible. he doesnt give up or let up. its 2bad david ferrer doesnt have a bigger serve, because he is just like nadal mentally but physically gets overpowered by nadal most times. tsongas physical stature & his game should beat nadal, but mentally i dont think he has the tennis balls 2doit. hope i’m wrong


Andrea Says:

Sylvia…. Nacho f was upset because he had bought tickets to the semis and finals in the hopes of seeing roger play…so when Andy took him out he was pissed at roddick. So for roddick to go out like a church mouse in the next round must be infuriating for him.


trufan Says:

Again, on the masters tournaments – Nadal has 19 of those – 15 are on clay. Only 4 masters on HC.

Of course, clay is a legitimate surface, and I agree we can already annoint him the CLAY GOAT.

But his impressive numbers on slams won, masters titles won, total titles won, total matches won, ranking points – everything is so heavily dependent on just a small number of events played during 2 months of the year. The rest of the year he pretty much draws a blank, with just an occasional title here and there.

Tokyo (2010) was the LAST time he won something other than on clay. 2011 – all three of his titles were on clay. Even in 2010, arguably his best year when he was at his peak, he had only 3 titles outside of clay.

He just not good enough to win that much outside of clay.

So of course, he will play as much as he can from mid april to mid june…..

his H2H against most players is positive only due to victories on clay! 12-2 on clay against Federer, 6-8 outside of clay.

Let me know if I am wrong on ANY stat….


montecarlo Says:

@trufan

Rafa got 32/46 on one surface i.e. 69.56%

Federer got 51/73 on one surface. i.e. 69.86%

Do the maths before posting nonsense.

Regards.


skeezerweezer Says:

Me thinks Rafa’s chronic knee problem and other injuries comes from the tugging. When he does this constantly, it is an unnatural body action, that can throw your balance posture into a tizzy, causing strain on all kinds of ligaments. Best he tries to stop that for awhile, maybe it will help with the injuries…..


trufan Says:

Montecarlo – “do the maths” is wrong english.

70% of the tournaments are played on HC, so obviously, winning 70% of your titles on HC is a pretty balanced scenario.

less than 25% of tournaments are on clay, so winning 70% of your titles on clay is highly unbalanced.

You should think a bit before you post.


montecarlo Says:

@trufan
Infact you should be pretty happy that ATP season is so heavily Hard Court based where 12 out of 19 most important tournaments are held on hard courts and only 5 on clay courts. If the number of tournaments on these two surfaces were equal Nadal would already be ahead of not only Federer’s total title count but also would have been sitting pretty at number 1 position for almost eight years now.


tennisfan Says:

Isn’t this a bit surprising that before the IW Sf, Nadal was considered a strong player in windy conditions. Just because of one loss, I don’t think it is rational to think that Nadal will lose today in these conditions. I think it will be a tough match and going by Tsonga’s poor form lately, Nadal should nail him! He is World No. 2 for a reason!

The Humble Rafa- Part I http://bit.ly/yj0JqW


Ajet Says:

”If the number of tournaments on these two surfaces were equal Nadal would already be ahead of not only Federer’s total title count but also would have been sitting pretty at number 1 position for almost eight years now.”

very correct montecarlo..
in the classic times, actually tennis was played only on grass/clay. if that were the case even now, then nadal would definitely be ruling for 8 straight years! so no point bringing in ”what if” nadal didn’t win so many titles on clay! because we can as well say that ”what if” hard court wasn’t there!!! i can’t imagine where fed would be sitting now w.r.t. nadal!!!

in fact, all these guys like jmac, connors, lendl etc. (including federer) woulda been very lesser players with much lesser records in comparison to nadal and the greatest talk now woulda been like ”laver & nadal are the 2 greatest ever”!!!

——————————————

On a different note, don’t you guys ever feel surprised or bored by your miami is a slow clay court nonsense??? Or may be you people know something even the tennis legends do not, as no legend is in doubt at this point that nadal was invincible on clay from 2005-11(2011 I include because even in 2011, it was nadal who won FO). but if miami was indeed like a clay court,as you keep claimin, then nadal should have won it almost all the times he played it, and it’s not roddick/sampras/fed who shoulda been sittin with 2 or 3 miami titles!!! but the last time i checked nadal has 0 miami titles in his careeer whereas he swept almost all the clay titles upto 2011!

thus,now i am sure you know how funny and ridiculous you sound when you keep whining about miami playing like a clay court.


Eric Says:

Tipsy up a set and a break! what what! Janko!


Humble Rafa Says:

The Humble Rafa- Part I http://bit.ly/yj0JqW

I was the original Humble Rafa. Now everyone is copying me.


RZ Says:

Ajet, keep in mind that the grass courts back then were faster (or so I’ve heard and read) than the current-day Wimbledon grass.


Kimberly Says:

is this match awful or is it just me


Kimberly Says:

just as i say that there is a nice point


Ajet Says:

murray cannot lose this! wat the ####!


Eric Says:

all over now..


Ajet Says:

what happened eric???


Eric Says:

murray broke tipsa, served out the set. I’m sure he’ll run away with the third now. You’ve gotta close out the match when you can if you want the upset, we’ve seen that plenty of times in the past few days…


Kimberly Says:

Like murrays chances now. His play has picked up.


Ajet Says:

Oh, damn the Andy f##king Murray, can he not give us less tense matches??!! ugh!

why does he not straight set these tipsa-like guys and always puts himself into holes, is beyond me! may be lendl can fix that!


Jeanius Says:

Trufan don’t blame Montecarlo. All Rafa fans have skewed personalities,just like Rafas stats


Ajet Says:

please murray, win it quick and don’t mess it up! the guy has given me many virtual heart-attacks and real heart-breaks for rooting for him above all except federer, roddick and delboy.


Eric Says:

ajet, because these “tipsa-like guys” are quite good? I would venture to say that Tipsarevic is about 95% as good as Andy. Just less versatile, maybe less determined mentally as well. But he could easily be no. 6, no. 7 in the world in a few months.


Eric Says:

Also Murray has more tennis smarts, at least he sometimes does… I mean tactically, constructing points, etc. But Tipsa is quite good too, always has been, and there’s a reason he rose 40 spots in the ranks to no. 9 last year…


Colin Says:

What’s all over, Eric?


Eric Says:

The set.


Colin Says:

To be fair to Murray – and indeed both the guys – part of the reason for this match being up-and-down lies in the windy conditions.


rogerafa Says:

Come on Andy!


El Flaco Says:

I agree Kimberly. It’s just not an exciting match.


Eric Says:

I like Andy M just fine, but are his matches _ever_ more exciting than this when he isn’t playing Rafa, Roger, or Nole?


racquet Says:

I don’t know, I recall some pretty exciting matches against Del Potro, Tsonga and Gasquet.


racquet Says:

Whew! Andy wins. It wasn’t always pretty but he wasn’t feeling good and had the doctor on – so it’s to his credit that he somehow pulled through. Needless to say, he has to find some form because this won’t cut it against Nadal/Tsonga. Thankfully there’s a day off tomorrow.


El Flaco Says:

Murray took a medical timeout in the 2nd set when he was down a break. I didn’t see the rest of the set so I don’t know if he broke right after that. He didn’t appear to be injured when I watched parts of the 3rd set. Looks like he borrowed from Nadal’s bag of tricks.


racquet Says:

He had a stomach issue and felt like vomiting, doctor gave him a tablet and he slowly got back into the match. No ‘bag of tricks.’


Ajet Says:

oh, can sleep peacefully after knowing murray won..


Leon Says:

Laughable. I wonder what will be the next “mathematically proven” fantasy to glorify Nadal at the expence of Federer (not saying about other “guys like jmac, connors, lendl, etc” – etc means sampras?).

So, Nadal: 32/46=69.56%
Federer: 51/73=69.86%
Haven’t checked this, but ok, let it be true. Looks like pretty the same. But:

First. 51/73 is far more wrt consistency than 32/46. You have to play 73-46=27 matches more (that is, 27/46=59%, more than a half!), maintaining this top percentage. Federer did that. Nadal so far not, and there is no proof he would be able to do that; bearing in mind his inability to hold the top form all the season from its beginning to end for at least one-two years, one would suppose rather the opposite. Anyway, the same percentage shown on a much longer run stands obviously higher, the rest is, softly speaking, wishful and premature thinking.

Second. “If the number of tournaments on these two surfaces were equal Nadal would already be ahead of not only Federer’s total title count but also would have been sitting pretty at number 1 position for almost eight years now.”
Why the hell? Even supposing that Nadal would be able to maintain that percentage as long as Federer, the figures should be equal (as are percentages). 8 years #1?! I doubt Nadal himself ever had such crazy dreams.

Third. Nadal entered the tour even later than Federer. I mean, the situation with the ATP calendar and the HC preference in particular was pretty clear for both. It was not Federer who established the rules. As kids, both started on clay. But heck, you are a young talent and want to be #1. You see the reality: to be #1, you have to dominate HC. So you have to adapt all your talent, practice, fitness, whatever to the most dominant surface. Federer did that, Nadal – not so much (and he has some problems with following other rules, as we all know). Had it be clay – perhaps, Federer would act in other manner (at least he has proved his clay credentials to a good measure), you never know. But he simply accepted the requirements as they are. Whereas Nadal often tries to ignore some “minor” rules. To each his own, the same goes for the fans. But even brave fantasies shouldn’t be simply wild.

And yes, well done, Andy!


Leon Says:

3rd paragraph: “…27 TOURNAMENTS more…”


Kimmi Says:

azarenka cant keep making these comebacks, she is bound to lose soon. Bartoli with the first set.


jane Says:

Missed Andy M’s match but it looks/sounds like it was close. Wasn’t he sick at Dubai too, early on? Hopefully it passes but it’s good he gets a day off now.


Frank McCosker Says:

Just as with our government, we don’t need new rules, we just need to enforce the ones on the books.


Kimmi Says:

there, she loses eventually. the streak ended at 26-0


jane Says:

Well, it was a good run for Azarenka. Now she can try her game on clay.


Kimberly Says:

Eeesh, didn’t love nadal’s interview with brad Gilbert, he doesn’t look happy at all…..sigh, all my players and teams having been losing this week.


Kimberly Says:

I’m ok with azarenka streak breaking but I would rather it have been to cibulkova than Bartholi, my least favorite player on tour of men and women. I have only been sympathetic to some of the fed fans who detest rafa mannerism because if rafa annoys them the way Bartholi rubs me any and all comments are understandable.


Eric Says:

Kimberly, I agree 10000% with your 9:12 post…

I am also excited to see Kvitova in action again soon. Personally, I think she is the most talented of the young guns on the women’s tour right now.


Eric Says:

Just started watching. Tsonga serving first. Deuce. Rafa not starting off slow for once?


jane Says:

Rafa has the best H2H record against his QF opponent (compared to the others). I will be really surprised if he doesn’t beat Tsonga.


Kimberly Says:

Bad energy in this match from both players. Nadal does not look happy and tspnga doesn’t look like he’s having fun either.


jane Says:

Actually, yeah, you’re right Kimberly. Nadal hasn’t been getting in many first serves either, with a double already. Maybe he can get away with that versus Tsonga, but I would think Murray or Nole would attack all those second serves.


jane Says:

Easy for Rafa so far…he is killing Tsonga’s second serve. Any time Tsonga puts one in, Rafa practically wins the point.


Eric Says:

Tsonga is just playing abysmally. At least every other point. He can’t play two good points in a row — missing endless easy volleys, put-away shots… he needs to hold serve here!


Eric Says:

…and then he hits two aces, I guess that works too.


Kimberly Says:

The conditions must be getting on the players, a lot of players not really looking good today. Right now of all the players I have watched over the past two days ferrer looks the best!


skeezerweezer Says:

Frank,

You post was spot ON!’

No excuses for Tsonga…but the dude looks tired…..gotta be fit to play Rafa….see if things turn here…


marrisv Says:

Rafa playing poorly and Jo willy even more so…

Poor poor quality match.


steve-o Says:

This court is sooooo slow that Tsonga is having trouble making winners. Nadal has plenty of time to return serve.

Nadal is only playing solid, not great. But Tsonga is getting impatient to finish the point quickly, and that plays right into Nadal’s hands.

On the other hand, I doubt Tsonga can afford to rally with Nadal. It’s a losing proposition for almost anyone, except Djokovic.


skeezerweezer Says:

Is it only me or does it seem like Rafa is just getting the ball in play mostly and Tsonga is making up reasons not to keep the ball in play for a RALLY? Very boring so far….


skeezerweezer Says:

Tsonga did not come to play. Impatient, trying to hit winners to early. Obvious he is either too tired or unwilling to just get the ball in play and work from there. This is almost like a walkover. You would think the quality of the tennis this late in the tourney would be better. Not Rafa’s fault. C’mon Tsonga!


marrisv Says:

I didnt see how Murray played today but if Rafa does go through, he needs to sort his game and more importantly his serve out. 77mph second serves wont cut it. Either ways I can’t help but feel that Murray is going to thump him.


Eric Says:

WHAT WAS THAT, TSONGA.


racquet Says:

Brainfart drop shot. He had him on the ropes. tsk


skeezerweezer Says:

Tsonga. 1 winner, 30 unforced errors. TV turned off. Congrats Rafa…..disgusting effort by JWS


steve-o Says:

@skeezer: I don’t think it’s a good idea for Tsonga to keep the ball in play against Nadal. Of the points that went over 10 shots, Tsonga has not won a single one.


Eric Says:

Tsonga forced to half play to correct the linesmen on yet another easy call. Kind of embarrassing.


Eric Says:

halt rather


Eric Says:

Nobody saves seven break points in a row against JW Tsonga!


racquet Says:

Finally, Tsonga breaks. Watch him blow it. The crowd deserve a match.


marrisv Says:

Rafa plays an atrocious game when serving for it…


steve-o Says:

I’ll be shocked if Tsonga manages to get this to a tiebreak.


Eric Says:

Rafa played the same as he did the last three games when Tsonga had break points, JW just didn’t choke this time.


racquet Says:

Much better from Tsonga. 4 good points in a row. Must be the first time all night.


steve-o Says:

I am officially shocked.


marrisv Says:

Better for Rafa to lose tis match now…


racquet Says:

What a shot to win the 2nd set! Rafa needs to buy a few 1st serves if he wants to stay in this.


Eric Says:

Wow. When was the last time Rafa was broken twice in a row by someone not named Roger Federer? Just wondering if anyone remembers…


Kimberly Says:

Rafa should have closed this out. Be surprised if he wins now. Really disappointed and disgusted.


steve-o Says:

Second set to Tsonga, 7-5. Now it’s Nadal’s second serve which is proving inadequate.

Wonder if exhaustion will catch up with Tsonga in the third set, though. Losing the first set to Nadal is virtually the kiss of death, even if you manage to win the second.


racquet Says:

^^Rafa was broken twice in a row

Murray in Tokyo – 3 times in a row in fact.


Eric Says:

Uh oh, now the commentators are calling Tsonga the favorite to take this set? He’s doomed.


racquet Says:

Oops…the above was in response to: “when was the last time Rafa was broken twice in a row”


steve-o Says:

Kimberly: Tsonga is the underdog here. It’s hard to keep up the number of winners needed to break through Nadal’s defense.

Nadal will most likely win this by attrition as Tsonga tires.


marrisv Says:

What is going on with his forehand…. Rafa is struggling big time..l


Eric Says:

Sheesh… Tsonga REALLY wants to win a point with that drop shot, doesn’t he?


Kimberly Says:

All right I am going to stop being grumpy and try to enjoy this match as it may be the last set I see of rafa til montecarlo


steve-o Says:

@Kimberly: did you get to see your fave live this year?


Kimberly Says:

No so disappointed about that, if survives this match I will see him over the weekend. My jus and saw federer and djokovic but the only one of the big four I saw live was Murray men wise, I saw azarenka


Kimberly Says:

My husband I meant. Watched fed play Harrison and djokovic play baggy


Kimberly Says:

But I only saw Murray falla. I have a awards luncheon but thinking of skipping it to go watch Maria tomorrow and fish.


Eric Says:

Rafa veeeeeery lucky to make it out of that game.


King Federer Says:

Epic Choke by rafa in the 2nd set. If tsonga wasn’t misfiring, Sean would have got his prediction right.

to quote serena “tsonga is playing at 20% today”.

it will be bad news for rafa if he loses today!


Kimberly Says:

Rafa playing pretty bad too KF, to quote Serena he is about 20 percent. His forehand is crap today.


Eric Says:

aaaand Tsonga pretty lucky to make it out of that one, too!

Rafa didn’t choke… Tsonga just loosened up. Even under his unbelievably error-ridden play in the first ten games or so, the potential was clear. He was playing great — just on a court with lines six inches further away than the real one. Now we have a match. Great tennis. Not sure who I want to win – watching this Tsonga is always a joy, but I picked Rafa to win the tournament… kinda looks like the big mo’ might be going JW’s way though.


Eric Says:

Not sure what match you doom-and-gloomers are watching! This one is great. :)


Eric Says:

Okay maybe the momentum is with Rafa now. Also, never bet against The Bull.


King Federer Says:

what has loosening up got to do with rafa not making 1st serves toward the end of the 1st set? last i checked, serve is the one shot that a player can control!


Eric Says:

Rafa to serve for the match after the c/o.


marrisv Says:

Serve for the match again….


steve-o Says:

Told you Tsonga would get tired and start making mistakes. When he didn’t convert his break chances, it was done.

If he’d come out swinging like this in the first set, he might have had a chance.

Now he’s arguing with the ump. This match is over.


Eric Says:

Oh eff that. Why do they show these unofficial replays


Kimberly Says:

Rafa playing a bad service game again wtf????!


Eric Says:

I thought Tsonga finally exorcised his drop shot volley demon…but Rafa got there. WOW. Great stuff from Nadal!


marrisv Says:

Forehand misfiring big time….


Kimberly Says:

Stupid error o. Match point come on


marrisv Says:

Break point now….


steve-o Says:

“Tsonga wants to hang around a little longa!” Bet you thought that was pretty clever, Mr. Announcer.


marrisv Says:

Another bp


Eric Says:

haha broken string. oops. best timing


racquet Says:

Broken string on break point. This match has got it all now.


steve-o Says:

A string on Tsonga’s racket breaks on break point, causing an error. The gods do not want him to win.


steve-o Says:

Kimberly, I’m glad you’ll be able to watch your favorite live.


racquet Says:

Rafa squeaks through finally. That final set made up for the first 2.


Eric Says:

Yeah, everything went wrong for Tsonga there — lost the first point on a wrong call, broken racquet string, and now a net cord… but Rafa deserves this win. Turned out to be a great match!


marrisv Says:

Finally, Rafa gets through… I don’t like his chances in the semi though.,,


Colin Says:

So it’s Murray vs Nadal. Despite all the scepticism, I incline to believe Rafa does have knee problems, because there is no doubt the has the ongoing tendonitis condition. Thing is, he’ll have to do plenty of running against Murray (always provided Andy plays well. You always have to add that “if”).


Kimberly Says:

Steve o—-so am I, haven’t seem him play a match live since 2010 watched him practice but that is it. Well my nerves are thouroughly worked. I hope he gets the night match Friday,no already have a babysitter lined up for night session. Thinking of skipping my luncheon tomorrow and watching fish and sharapova!


Nirmal Kumar Says:

I saw someone ask why Nadal did not win Miami if it plays like a clay court.

The answer is simple..Nadal cannot slide on HC, whereas he can slide in Clay court. So even though courts are slow, it changes the dynamics of the way you play your defense.


Kimberly Says:

I have tendinitis in both thumbs, it goes away and currently is gone and I am blasting the cr-p out of my forehand and backhand but it comes back and I can’t even turn my car key or text or chop vegetables when it’s bad. I would say the fear of it coming on, which for me it does suddenly, is enormous and can effect your mind. I retired from a match I was winning once worried it was starting and it didn’t even come. To these players their bodies are their livelihood so they are paranoid that each niggle is the tournament withdrawing. Career ending injury.


Kimberly Says:

Noirmal and djokovic slide on hard, just not as well as on clay. The difference is onl clay nadal has even more time to wind up so his ball bounces over his opponents head making it very uncomfortable. The ball literally explodes off the ground and the odd bounce on clay makes it tough to take early and so much spin makes the, tough to volley anyway.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

monetecarlo says :Infact you should be pretty happy that ATP season is so heavily Hard Court based where 12 out of 19 most important tournaments are held on hard courts and only 5 on clay courts.

Players develop depending on the environment in which tennis is played. Current era is strong, because most of the tournaments are played in HC.

If most of the tournaments are played in clay and grass, then players would have developed themselves on those surfaces. We may never know if Rafa would have won so many tournaments in clay if that’s the case.


Colin Says:

Small correction – I wrote “tendonitis” when it is really “tendinitis” At least I think so! It doesn’t sound right, does it?.
I’m fairly optimistic about Andy’s match with Rafa. That’s the nearest I’ll come to a prediction.


Leon Says:

Great to see my comment at 7:20 pm edited (at least for free, I hope).


trufan Says:

Tendinitis, what tendinitis? Nadal again ran like a rabbit for 3 hours, on a hard court. Excuses, lame excuses, that’s what it is.

I hope Murray beats him. The courts are pretty darn slow, which helps both the players – might be quite a snoozefest.

And now Nadal is raising the “I have to recover” excuse. IN the interview he said that. He has a day off! and it was 3 hours, not 5. Djokovic played 5 hours and then 6 against him at the AO.

Fast courts, even bounce – Nadal is dead.
Slow clay courts, or miami AO type courts – Federer still competes, and sometimes wins.

Get the difference?

Once, just once, Nadal needs to win the YEC indoors on a true fast courts (wimbledon is not fast anymore). But time is running out for him. IN a couple of months, he is 26 – when ALL players start to decline.


Nirmal Kumar Says:

Noirmal and djokovic slide on hard, just not as well as on clay

Ok, there is a huge difference in the way you slide in HC. Also Novak slides, but not Nadal. His slide on HC is very limited. I understand his topspin has more bite on clay, but for me it’s his movement which makes him more dangerous in clay compared to HC.


trufan Says:

Yes, its movement that makes Nadal Nadal on clay, along with of course his lefty moonball topsin forehand. Speed, stamina, and will – nadal has plenty of all. But speed and stamina are age dependent, so from now onwards, he is only going to decline, which will also very quickly affect his will to win.

Remember, again, the last time Nadal won outside of clay was Tokyo (2010). He must have played almost 20 non-clay tournaments in the meantime. Even if 5 of those were beatdowns by Djoke, he lost the others to many different players (including 3 to Federer). And if he doesn’t win Miami – it may be a while before he wins anything outside of clay.


Steve 27 Says:

The Spaniard will never like Swiss or Serbian are clues, but has a very good record as well and can beat anyone including your beloved Federer. In indoor is different, but like the Swiss in RG Nadal, Federer is the Spaniard in WTF


Steve 27 Says:

I also wonder if Montreal and Toronto for you is a real HC?, And what about the U.S. Open?, Is not a fast surface anymore?


trufan Says:

Federer has 5 french finals including one title, and 5 masters titles on clay along with almost 10 other finals in masters on clay. Nadal has 1 YEC final, no title.

its not the same. Federer’s record on clay is far superior to Nadal’s on indoors.


trufan Says:

Steve, indoor and outdoor are different. the surface is completely different.

Of course, Nadal has 11 HC titles, including 2 slams. Nothing to slouch about, its pretty good.

But nothing great either.


Steve 27 Says:

Federer 9 HC major
Sampras 7
Agassi 6
Lendl 5
Mc Enroe Djokovic 5
Connnors Becker 3
Nadal and few others had 2

yeah not so proud, lol.
I mean that Swiss beat Nadal in RG 5 times and 4 times Federer defeat the spaniard, you have to see the parallel.
Yes, there are 3 master 1000 on clay, against 1 WTF is so smooth yeah, lol.


trufan Says:

Half the slams are on HC – Federer has 9/16. Pretty balanced. Nadal is 2/10.

1/3 of masters are on clay – Federer has 5/19. Not that unbalanced, especially considering he losts 7 clay masters finals (most to Nadal). So 12 out of about 31 masters final – very close to 1/3.

Nadal has 6/10 slams on clay, 32/46 titles on clay, 15/19 masters on clay – you have to be blind not to see that most of his GREATNESS is built on clay.

Again, nothing to slouch about. I think it still gets him to a top 10 status in the open era, and he may win more and move up to top 5 eventually. But comparisons to Fed are ridiculous!

Nadal’s dependence on clay is as extreme as the absence of clay credentials on Sampras’s resume… 24-13 at the French, just one semi… pathetic.


trufan Says:

and talk about a boring match – Monaco Fish. If we get a Ferrer Monaco semi, then we might as well go to sleep.


Ajet Says:

Sampras’s clay court credentials’re not impressive for sure! But nadal’s dependence is no way as extreme as sampras’s was on grass, because we all know how many times nadal has reached wibledon finals, how many times he won it, and to whom he lost it in 2006 and 2007! moreover, we also know that nadal has reached 4 HC slam finals and won two! Not at all bad! In fact the guy has reached back to back USO finals in 2010 and 2011! SO nadal’s definitely not as clay dependent!

Pete did nohing on clay. But nadal has done quite well on HC coz his HC record=
5 or 6 masters + 2 slams+ 2 slam runners up+ some HC masters finals+ other minor HC titles!

Thus He’s done fantastic on HC even though not he’s one of the greatest hardcourters!

we must not compare everybody with federer only to decide whether he’s great or not in any particular surface, because federer is the guy who’s

undisputed and overwhelming greatest grass+hardcourter+second greatestclaycourter of his generation and he’s reached countless FO finals and clay masters finals! That’s why he’s the greatest!

Nobody was at the same go all the three in his generation like fed, nor anybody’s likely to ever be like that! so we must stop comparing nadal with fed! in fact nobody compares with fed!

but if we leave federer from the discussion, nadal has done incredible compared to rest! nadal at least has done very well in his generation by being the greatest claycourter and second greatest grascourter by miles… and he’s been also the 3rd greatest HCer of his times!

so nadal’s a great player too! definitely in the all-time top-10. kind of top-5 material!


Steve 27 Says:

If not for federer, Nadal would have 4 Wimbledon like fed fans said. if not Nadal the swiss would have 5 RG, lol


Nirmal Kumar Says:

It’s a pity that Sampras clay record is being compared to Rafa’s grass record. Current era, there is hardly a difference between grass and clay. But that was not the case in 90′s. Let’s understand that. Today we do not have specialist. Even guys like Almagro can play good tennis in HC (because of change in condition).

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