Sweet 16 for Federer, or Can Murray Derail Him at the US Open?
by Sean Randall | August 30th, 2009, 11:30 pm
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Arguably the toughest two days in the sport of tennis is the final weekend for the men at the US Open. Saturday semifinal followed by Sunday final, all best of five sets for the final Grand Slam title of the season. It all comes down to who can and who cannot win back-to-back five set matches on a hardcourt against stiff competition.

Roger Federer without question has proven he can do it.

Andy Roddick can do it.

Novak Djokovic might be able to do it.

Andy Murray I think can do it.

Rafael Nadal I don’t think can do it

Juan Martin del Potro probably cannot do it, not yet.

That’s what winning the US Open comes down to, having the ability to win six sets on consecutive days with everything on the line. Some guys can, some guys can’t and we’ll ultimately find out two weekends from now.

That all said, Federer is the clear favorite at this event and that was before he was handed a gift of a draw. Federer avoided the danger floaters DelPo, Roddick and even Jo Tsonga in drawing Nikolay Dayvdenko in his quarter. Lleyton Hewitt, Sam Querrey and perhaps James Blake offer interesting matches on the marquee, but it’s hard to see Federer even being challenged before the quarterfinals – I do think Dayvdenko can give him problems, but that’s about it!

In the second quarter we are probably staring down the barrel at yet another Djokovic-Roddick quarterfinal night match, just as we had a year ago. And this time Roddick’s going to win. But will the match happen? Hard to say. Djokovic looks good out to the quarterfinals – I think he’ll beat his lone stumbling block Radek Stepanek. But Roddick could run into Fernando Verdasco in the 16s, and that’s got danger written all over it. I’ll take Roddick for now and I’m going to move the American cautiously through the semifinals, but the other lefty Spaniard could be the real guy to watch out for.

The third quarter I’m going to take Fernando Gonzalez. That’s right, Gonzo! I’m not sure why but I think he’s ready to make a move at the US Open and his draw looks bloody good. Yes, there are some tricky matches against Tomas Berdych, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga but I like him to get to the quarterfinals where he’ll upset Nadal. For Rafa, I’m just not convinced of his ability on a fast hardcourt and I don’t think his level of play is where it needs to be. Maybe he gets the career Slam, just not now.

In the final section, perhaps the biggest match of the tournament pre-semifinals is the DelPo-Murray quarterfinal showdown, and looking at the draw I think it happens. I love DelPo’s draw, but Murray has some tough outs with Ernests Gulbis right from the start, Ivo Karlovic and even Maric Cilic. But he’ll manage to get to DelPo and that’s it because I’m picking DelPo. I’ve been high on Murray but I just don’t like his passivity against the big hitters and I think DelPo’simproved his game just enough to overpower the Brit.

So that leaves my semifinals as Federer v. Roddick; Gonzo v. DelPo. Final pick…Federer beats DelPo as the Argy can’t handle the back-to-back task and the moment of being in his first Slam final.

As for the women, in the semifinals I’ll go Safina d. Sharapova; Serena beats Azarenka with Serena hammering on Dinara for the title.


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357 Comments for Sweet 16 for Federer, or Can Murray Derail Him at the US Open?

jane Says:

Are you sure you want to go out on a limb and pick Federer and Serena Sean? : )


Blank Says:

Interesting picks. But from a tennis site of this caliber I would expect more thoughtful analysis than simply few safe/random picks.

I am pretty sure the ensuing discussion will offer plenty more insight than this lead article itself.


sensationalsafin Says:

The discussion is always better than the article. But that’s the beauty of Sean’s articles, he says just enough to piss a lot of poeple so that everyone can argue about everything. I sometimes think that if not for Sean, I wouldn’t like tennis as much as I do. Don’t criticize him. Keep up the great work Sean.

As for the draw. I also believe Delpo will overpower Murray. I think Djokovic will get his win over Roddick, but that could be wishful thinking. And idk how but I got Tsonga getting to the semis. But Gonzo works, too. Fed d. Delpo seems most likely.


i am it Says:

sorry safina will not reach beyond the quarter final. sharapova the same. and there won’t be gonzu vs. delpo semi. there won’t be delpo in the final.
you got one right. federer.


rafa Says:

[quote]It all comes down to who can and who cannot win back-to-back five set matches on a hardcourt against stiff competition.

Rafael Nadal I don’t think can do it [/quote]

I think he is the only one who has done something similar to this @ this year’s Australian Open. I can’t recall Federer or others you mentioned winning back to back five set matches in any semifinal and final.

Funny. LOL…


Giner Says:

“For Rafa, I’m just not convinced of his ability on a fast hardcourt and I don’t think his level of play is where it needs to be. Maybe he gets the career Slam, just not now.”

The US open is far from ‘fast’. A fast court was the old Madrid, indoor hard at high altitude. Which he won by the way.

I’m not convinced Nadal will be a threat either, at least not this year. But I don’t think it’s because of the speed of the court. Canada’s court is the same and he won both Montreal and Toronto, semis of Cincy, semis of US Open. It’s hard to say that he can’t play on the hard stuff with results like that.

My picks:

Semis:
Federer def Roddick
Murray def Del Potro

Final:
Federer def Murray in 3 or 4 sets.

If any of these final 4 get upset before the semi, it’s probably DP or Murray. I don’t imagine Fed or Roddick falling before a semi. The three GS losses Murray has taken this year have all been upsets. He was expected to beat them. He was undefeated against Verdasco, had a winning record against Roddick (and beat him at the same place the previous year). I don’t remember who he lost to at RG, but it would have been someone he shouldn’t have lost to.

So it’s not out of the ordinary for an upset to happen again. Had he not lost to Federer at Cincy, he would have been my favourite in a USO final with Federer, but that just throws a monkey wrench into the equation now. He had a commanding H2H against Fed, and Fed was dealing with fatherhood which was supposed to take away his focus and training time, but it didn’t happen. And it won’t happen now either.

6th US Open for Fed, 4th time he finishes a season with 3 majors.


Giner Says:

Eh? I didn’t check the draw properly. According to you, Del Po is in Murray’s quarter not Nadal’s. If that’s the case, I’ll just go with your picks.

I could have sworn DP was in Nadal’s quarter, but I don’t care enough to check.


momo Says:

Giner:

Semis:
Federer def Roddick
Murray def Del Potro

Murray and Del Potro are in same 1/4, the 2nd SF will not happend


africanck Says:

Hey Sean
Loved the article.
I like how you don’t heavily favor anyone. I loved how you threw everyone into the equation. I also like Gonzo and he has upset Nadal in the past. I also love DP and I would really love it if he made the final as much as I love Fed I would like to see some one like him or Tsongo get to the final and do well. I agree with you on Nadal as well, he might make it to the quarter finals at best!


africanck Says:

I did forget about Roddick he always plays great a the US open his problem is he always runs into the Fed Express! I say Roddick might make it to the semi-final again and maybe another 5 set thriller with Fed winning again …to heart broken Roddick fans and Fed haters!! Lets go Fed number 6!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope he doesn’t crush DP or Tsonga in the final but wins maybe in 4 sets.


Ty Says:

What time does the coverage start tomorrow?


margot Says:

The majority don’t “hate” Fed, how could you? We’d just like someone else to win for a change!


steve Says:

To answer the question: I have no idea who will win. That’s why they play the matches.

I hope Federer can bring his best once again and win it. I am skeptical that Murray will make it to the final again, though.

I too hope Del Potro makes it further than he has. He’s improved so much over the last year.


PietjeP Says:

Hmm, I think this can be one of the most interesting US opens in years.

Not sure if I agree with you Sean about Murray. I do see him making the finals. Yes he can play passive, but it got him to many finals and many tournament wins. Although he is yet to prove it in a slam; which is different to all other tournaments.

My bets in respective order are; Fed, Roddick, Murray. With Delpo, Djoko and maybe Rafa as outsiders.


lyle nubbins Says:

Roddick owns Verdasco.


Skorocel Says:

rafa about Nadal: „I think he is the only one who has done something similar to this @ this year’s Australian Open. I can’t recall Federer or others you mentioned winning back to back five set matches in any semifinal and final.

Funny. LOL…“

Yep, funny and LOL indeed :-)


Cindy_Brady Says:

Federer showed signs in Cincy of the old Fed. Not good for the field. With only Daveydenko as a minor threat in his quarter – what’s going to realistically stop him from reaching the semis?

Answer: No one.

He will meet either Djokovic or Roddick in the semis. We saw what he did to Djokovic in Cincy and he has Roddick in his hip pocket.

Murray, Nadal, or Del Potro will be waiting in the finals. The fast service favors Federer’s more aggressive game over either Murray or Nadal and Del Potro doesn’t have the experience yet.

Federer will win his 6th.

Book it!


Fed is GOAT Says:

I think:

Murray will lose early.
Roddick will beat Djoke in the quarters
Nadal will not lose early – he might surprise everyone by reaching the final…
DelPo will lose his way early too.

I think there’ll be more surprises in this open than the last few years.

My bet is on Federer beating Nadal in a blockbuster final.

How’s that for different?


Fed is GOAT Says:

BTW, on lopsided H2H – does anyone have examples of something worse than 19-2 Fed-Roddick? I know Borg was 16-0 on Gerulaitis, or something like that… Fed is 12-0 and 13-0 on a few players.


Skorocel Says:

Fed maniacs, here’s something to ponder:

I’m sure I’ll be slaughtered for writing this, but anyway, have you even noticed that, no matter what the outcome of today’s match between Fed and Britton, it will certainly be another step towards history for the Swiss? If he wins, then it’s just 6 left to go and he’ll most probably win his 6th consecutive USO, but if the unthinkable happens (I know, it’s about as likely as Dinara winning a slam, but what the hell?), he’ll most probably set another eternal record – that is for being the lone No. 1 in history to lose a match against a player ranked outside the first 1000… LOL! If I remember it correctly, he’s already been pretty close in Tokio 2006 against Suzuki, hasn’t he? I know Suzuki is a much better player than Britton, but 1078 is still 1078 :-) The guy already holds the record for what has to be the fewest number of games won by a No. 1 player in a grandslam final (courtesy of that FO 2008 final destruction at the hands of Nadal), so why not to add another one? LOL! Now slaughter me :-)


rognadfan Says:

Skorocel,
You thought the unthinkable. Have you eaten KFC lately?


Blank Says:

Sensationalsafin: I totally agree with you. The depth of content pissed me off a bit and I, mostly a silent observer, felt like jumping in!


Cindy_Brady Says:

Skorocel,

It would certainly top the Soderling over Nadal upset – NOW wouldn’t it.

You are starting to get Cindy_Brady (ized) with these “off the wall” crazyisms.

Me likes it!

Keep up the splendid work. You will soon be a popular with Von as I am. LOL


PietjeP Says:

Cindy? are you secretly in love with Von? You always seem to mention her in each and every post. It has love, love, love written all over it….

Skorocel; I won’t slaughter you. Seems highly unlikely and what if it should happen? We should then start calling Fed a loser, a tosser, a wanker a who knows what? Upsets happen, it makes the sport interesting.

As I speak, the first serve is on! US Open on it’s way! May the best man, woman and team win!


Veno Says:

Youzhny getting Pummeled by PMH so far


Blank Says:

i am it: Thanks! ;-) (particularly for the 2nd link) I loved the slideshow, Azarenka is hot!


Blank Says:

Veno: That’s too bad. Not a good start for me as I picked Youzhny for 2 rounds in the ATP draw challenge :-(


Veno Says:

tx i am it for the link on Fed’s footwork. A nice read.

Blank, only 1 set played and PHM is fickle normally…We’ll see if Mikael can turn things around in the second


Cindy_Brady Says:

Youzhny,

Not the player he was a few years ago.

BUT

Just broke early in the 2nd set

*WOOT*


Veno Says:

woot woot


Veno Says:

oh and Blank, I agree….Azarenka’s pic is dynamite in that slide show.
Funny that it’s called “sexiest beastly babe” and they put Dinara Safina in there! The girl can play tennis and that’s what matters, but oh my, she wasn’t standing at the front of the line when her parents crossed over their gene pool, that’s for sure.


Veno Says:

yes!!!!! Kirilenko won the first set. Talk about a hottie :)


Long Live the King Says:

Thanks for the link on federer, I am it.

It is just amazing how often tennis writers have said this or a similar version on Roger for the last decade :

“Few athletes move like Roger Federer as he glides from baseline to service line and back. Some are faster. Others are as technically sound.

None, however, can match Federer in full flight.”

Amazing how watching Federer play tennis is not about the competition or the gladiatorial nature of the sport but about the majesty and elegance that covers the inner fire that has made Roger the greatest player this sport has seen.

On this note, check tennis.com’s steve tignor’s article why Federer is the GOAT :)

http://tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=183394

You can bet your house, that with every GS that Roger wins from here on, you will see more people surrender to the obvious reality that Roger is the greatest player to hit the tennis courts.

Go Roger let’s get the 6th.


Long Live the King Says:

The 2 matches Roger and Suzuki played were awesome. Tennis at its magical best. I bet any other tennis player would have lost to Suzuki that night in Tokyo. Credit to Roger for surviving a match which is a prime example of how tennis is all about that particular day. Just thinking about the tennis I saw those two play makes me go WOW! Scintillating tennis.

2006 was arguably, the best single year for a male tennis player. Shows you how thin the line that separates greatness from a good is, given that Fed eked out the match in a 3rd set breaker.

Last but not the least, lovely slideshow. Ana is my pick. (most of those babes are – love the phrase “volley of the dolls”) Hope she picks up her game from the dumps.


Gary Says:

Yes, Rafa has absolutely no chance of winning it. Surely he can’t beat Federer in the final and become the only player to beat the same opponent in all 4 grand slam finals. This is never gonna happen. NEVER.


i am it Says:

in women’s i want a teenager to win the us open

anyone will be watching britton beating federer and winning the title?:)


margot Says:

If Andy M’s serve is on fire, then, yes he can. But if it isn’t then, no, he doesn’t have a chance. Hope this glaring weakness is addressed soon. Much more important than the alleged “passivity.”
Also, apparently, Sky Sport wants him to play every match in the day. Gee ta, Mr Murdoch, you want him to lose then? Anyone know how much clout Sky has? As I wont give Rupert a penny of my hard earned cash, I probably wont be able to see any of the USOpen. I know there are streams but I’ve found them to be such bad quality you might as well not bother. Any Europeans any suggestions? Could not watch the Ashes either, cos of same reason. Boo! Love cricket too.


Veno Says:

Youzhny couldn’t serve it out at 5-4 but broke just back, attempt number 2 to even the score!


Veno Says:

margot, try http://www.fromsport.com

It is good quality


Veno Says:

Mikail just doesn’t want to win this set…Go Mikail!!!


i am it Says:

us open dot org has high quality live streaming. but i don’t if it is available world wide.


Veno Says:

Not available in our area i am it


Blank Says:

Well, now something has re-kindled my interest in watching women’s tennis again! My fav now is Azarenka (though before I wanted Dementieva to win) ;-)..hmm, talk about falling prey to instincts!

btw, Youzhny looks like he’s on a roll!!


Kimo Says:

Just before the US Open starts I wanna say:

GOOOOOOOO ROGGGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

And Sean, thank’s for not picking Federer outright to win. You’ve been terrible with your predictions lately.


Veno Says:

it’s the same ol’ same ol’ with PHM…
His body is on court, but his mind is not even in New York. He totally left the court. It will probably be Youzhny in 4 if he doesn’t wake up soon


Kimo Says:

Looking at the courts today I think they’re playing quicker than Cincy, but we’ll have to wait and see what the players think.


Von Says:

I am it: You beat me to the punch. I read that article on federer’s foot-work earlier today and was going to post it for Veno. Glad you were able to share it and make Long Live’s day a happy one.


Kimo Says:

Ooooohhhhh Fed!!!! Love the Red and Black :)


Fed is GOAT Says:

Ana is my pick too….


Veno Says:

I really hope David enjoys the experience!


Veno Says:

I hope David enjoys the experience!!!! Go David!


Von Says:

Long Live:

I’m disappointed in you. I thought you wanted A-Rod to win this one, and will be rooting for him? What happened, you’re going back on your word? If you’re going to do that, then our date is OFF. LOL.


Veno Says:

Come on David, just relax….


Von Says:

The foregoing speaks of Lavere’s lost years:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/31/sports/tennis/31anderson.html?ref=tennis
____________________
Margot: this one’s for you on Andy M:

http://bit.ly/9ivn7


jane Says:

Not much drama in these matches for which I can find streaming so far; a lot of routs. Clijsters cruised, Azarenka cruised, Isner is mainly cruising, Fed’s opponent is clearly outmatched (feel sorry for him – was talking in interviews about whether he’d rather have this experience or the chance to get to the next round and make 30,000 and he chose the latter of course. Lower ranked guys need the money. Dancevic has talked about his financial struggles). I hope that PHM comes back in the fourth set to at least to make a match of it. There seems to be a little bit of drama in Davy’s match. Looks, too, that Soderling will be losing the 2nd set.


Veno Says:

Good boy! Got on the board with 3 aces. Good for him


Blank Says:

Hey Von, Count me in to support Roddick as well. Though I like Federer, I want Roddick to win this one. He is such a nice, honest & talented guy that deserves this more than anybody else IMO. I marvel at his focus and his ability to keep his feet to the ground despite all the disappointments he’s had, coming so close to winning a major so many times in the past few years! It’s just a matter of time before all his hardwork pays off.


margot Says:

veno: site just told that stream not available in my area, but thanks for trying, also i am it thanx. Anyone out there in UK?
von: thanx too for link! BTW Andy R is my second fave for this one, over Djko whose 3rd. cos I feel Novak has time on his side.


Veno Says:

fromsport.com not working Margot? That’s strange! It should, also in the UK….


Von Says:

Blank:

Thanks for the support for Roddick; he needs all he can get at the moment. All we can do is hope that he’ll do well at this or some other GS and win that second major. His heart wants to win Wimbledon, but the USO would be fantastic on his home soil. I think at this time he’ll take any win just to get the monkey and press off his back.


Veno Says:

Fed should pay David the 30,000. That would be just an awesome gesture!


Von Says:

margot: You’re welcome. yes, the younger guys have time on their side, but Roddick’s window of opportunity is slowly closing. Try the following link. It does not work here in the US because it’s European, but I think you have to register:

http://www.betfair.com/


Veno Says:

Looks like Youzhny will take it. He did not have a glimmer of a chance in the first set, but after that PHM let him back in and just went away….Amazing how the guy always manages to let his opponent back in the match


jane Says:

That’s true margot, about Andy R and time. I will be happy no matter which guy emerges from Roddick/Djoko, only that I’d like to see one of them in the final then, ideally.

I see Hanescu is coming round; got the break back from John in the second set.

I blinked the first set in Fed’s match was over; the commentators are desperate, don’t know who to fill the time. LOL. Poor kid. Be nice if he could pick it up a level in this second set. Come to net more maybe?

LOL Veno “Fed should pay David the 30,000.” — for the practice session? ; ) Maybe Britton will have a better 2nd set.


Long Live the King Says:

Oh Von!

I thought I will slip one ” Go Roger” shout before you drop by :D

Did I say I will root for A-rod? (Didn’t I mention after Roger and Rafa?) I guess I will have to jump to A-rod Wagon for this fortnight to keep the date ;)

How about I cheer for A-rod in all matches except against Roger or Rafa? Will the date be still on, in that case? :)


Cindy_Brady Says:

PHM is mentally weak. The players know if they can hang with him, he will crack.

Federer is cruising as expected. David B looks out of his league. So inexperienced.


jane Says:

2 games for Britton! Woot! ; )


Veno Says:

Holding his own in the second set is the young American, good to see


Veno Says:

How about I cheer for A-rod in all matches except against Roger or Rafa? Will the date be still on, in that case? :)

Can I answer that Vonnie? hahaha


Von Says:

Long Live:

Shame on you! I’m beginning to get worried about your memory. First, I had to remind you of our date, and now you’ve forgotten your promise with respect to A-Rod. C’mon what’s going on upstairs? LOL. Alright, cheer for Fed and Rafa if you must, and YES, the date will still be on, because unlike some people (no names here) I don’t go back on my word. LOL.


Von Says:

Veno: Feel free to answer Long Live. BTW, I posted some articles for you.


Veno Says:

He broke Fed!!!!!!!


Veno Says:

Can’t read ‘em now Vonnie, but will later!!


Veno Says:

Poor kid, did so well to break Fed….


jane Says:

And got broken right back!!!!


Von Says:

For all: Here’s a nice link for the Tennis Channel those who can access it. The pictures are beautiful, well on my computer. anyway try it you might like it:

http://tennis-channel.tv/tennis/


margot Says:

Long live the king: two kings, or even three?
von: no luck so still need HELP. Am I only person here from UK?? Who won’t buy Sky.


Veno Says:

On Laver’s article Von there are 2 important mishaps by the writer:

First, I doubt Laver would have won 10 of the 20 slams if it would have been open in ’63 in stead of ’68 and the second is, that you shouldn’t count Laver’s first 6 slams as an amateur to make the comparison.

“Laver would have won over 20 because of the lost years, etc etc” You hear it all the time, but fact remains it’s all speculation. It doesn’t diminish Laver’s accomplishments and his stature as one of the greatest players the world has ever seen!
By that same account you could say Ken Rosewall would be the one Fed will be chasing in stead of the Rocket.


Veno Says:

I like this young American. Sure, his game needs a lot of polishing and he needs to gain so much more experience, but he’s got game!!!


Long Live the King Says:

This is what happens when a Fed-fan plans a date with a A-rod fan. Confusion and Chaos :D I am starting to fear this USopen weekend already ;)

Here we go…… I have thrown out the nike bandanas and gotten myself a baseball cap. :)


Fed is GOAT Says:

About Laver’s “Lost years” – people forget Rosewall’s “lost years”. Laver wouldn’t have won 6 of his 11 slams if tennis was always open, since he was not the top player in the early 60s when he won those titles. So Laver’s true tally is 5 plus what he would have won from 1964-67, when he was the top player. He won 8 Pro Slams in the period, which brings it to 13.

In contrast, Rosewall won 15 Pro Slams and 4 open slams, making it 19.

Whichever way you slice it, Rosewall’s record is superior to Laver. Yet people keep talking about Laver, like a broken record, just because he won the grand slam once (his first slam doesn’t count, it was like Emerson’s titles when the top players were not allowed to play).

Rosewall should be talked about when comparing to Federer, not Laver.


margot Says:

von: Yeeehaa! Logged onto TennisTV with no hope whatsoever and there’s the Soderling match! Thanks SO much!!


jane Says:

Oh I see you’ve found Soderling margot; good! Yes, the Tennis channel link works for me too. Thx Von.

But if still interested margot, you might try the other links too just to know if you can get access.


jane Says:

With the channelsurfing site you have to scroll down until you see all the US Open logos, and then try all of them. Sometimes one works while another doesn’t (same as at Justin t.v.)


Kimo Says:

Fed Is GOAT, that’s a great argument u made about Rosewall and Laver. :)


Veno Says:

Margot, you have Eurosport and/or Eurosport 2 on your tele?

If yes, coverage starts at 19:00h BST on Eurosport and has begun at 16:00u BST on Eurosport 2!


Long Live the King Says:

Margot, looks like it will be just one for this fortnight – A-rod (Von’s really twisting my arm with this keeping the word thing :D

How about this Von :

I will cheer for Rog…. er….Roddick this Open and you cheer for Fed-ex at the French next year ;)


Veno Says:

Fed is GOAT is like a broken record too(just messing with you mate) discussing Rosewall and this argument.
He is right though!!!
I totally agree!


Cindy_Brady Says:

Fed is GOAT,

Laver > Rosewall

I said it.

It must be true.


Veno Says:

coverage on my tv starting!!! Wooohoooooo


Shaky Says:

Wait you guys don’t just watch this at espn360?

does espn’s streams depend on where you live? I’ve got 6 legal channels here of tennis, all at espn.com.

This might depend on your provider, but give it a shot. Go to espn.com, hit the espn360 button up top, try it out.


Veno Says:

Guys, look at the fight back from Peter Polansky!!!


Veno Says:

Gotta hand it to the kid, he has got great hands!


jane Says:

Polansky – a young Canadian lad. Sure be nice to see him pull off this upset, but G-Lopez just broke back. I think as a junior he did pretty well here in NYC, and he pushed Djoko a bit in Montreal this year too.

Shaky, speaking as a Canuck, I haven’t been able to get espn360 before.


Veno Says:

Lol, he breaks!!!!!


jane Says:

Nice to see Britton fighting; how lovely if he could get a set from Fed.


Veno Says:

I’m sorry Devon, I called you David before(probably thinking about David vs Goliath)


i am it Says:

britton broke roger twice so far. that was good. a set would be better for the kid’s confidence in the future but it does not look like that’s gonna happen.


margot Says:

jane and shaky: thanx so much for the alternatives cos tennistv just froze on me at a crucial moment! Does it do the same for you folks in North America or is it just cos I’m in UK?
BTW Whew Soderling loked like a real bruiser but a tad clumsy when moving forwards.


Von Says:

Long Live:

“Here we go…… I have thrown out the nike bandanas and gotten myself a baseball cap. :)”

I laughed out very loud at the above. LOL.

“How about this Von :

“I will cheer for Rog…. er….Roddick this Open and you cheer for Fed-ex at the French next year ;)”

Deal and the date’s on! I’ll cheer for Fed at the French because A-Rod doesn’t want to win that one. Just between you and me, I did cheer for Fed to win this year’s FO vs. Soderling, because I think he cried enough for too many years over that one. So you see, I’m not a Fed hater after all.
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margot: Wonders never cease but daily increase with the live streaming. I’m so happy you got the TC connection working. That’s a very high quality stream so enjoy. BTW, I’d stay away from chanelsurfing as they seem to pick up a lot of viruses on that site, so it’s like a caveat emptor scenario.
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jane: you’re welcome ref the Tennis channel stream, and enjoy!


Von Says:

Shaky; Espn.360 only works with some providers. Here in the US it’s through Verizon. Do you have Verizon in Canada?


i am it Says:

britt holds.


Veno Says:

The kid impresses me…got gifted touch and enough power to play with the big boys…Hope he’ll continue to evolve!


Von Says:

Veno: Britton is the NCAA champion, which means he has to be good. I think Isner was NCAA champion also.


margot Says:

Thanks to everyone who responded to a poor island dweller in her hour of need!
von: beware, that Long Live looks like a bit of a shape shifter to me……..


jane Says:

Come on young lad, force a tiebreak anyhow. Be fun to see.


Von Says:

Johnnie Mac sounds very sad. He says ‘Roger’s just not on his A game and the crowd wants him to step it up. Poor Johnnie Mac! LOL.


Veno Says:

Johnny Mac getting more delusional all the time.
I’m a Fed fan and of course he’ll win, but I like to see the kid play as well as he can and make it a match at least for 1 set!


jane Says:

Ahhh too bad. But nice match from Britton as he picked up form.


Von Says:

margot: “von: beware, that Long Live looks like a bit of a shape shifter to me……..’

Maybe he’s watched too many Star Trek movies, and has joined the shape-shifters. LOL. I like his style and sense of humour though, as he always makes me laugh, even when he’s picking on poor Voicemale1. LOL.


Von Says:

Veno: That match was like Rocky Balboa beating up on a light, light-weight.


Veno Says:

Good effort from the kid!
I hope this inspires him!
He hasn’t won a challenge level match and now lost his first ATP match. He won a couple of future matches. I’d like to see him develop, nice player!


Shaky Says:

Good third set at least. If the 18 year old didn’t double fault at such bad times he might have really pushed Roger in the third. I do like the attackers! His backhand is kind of bad though, based on sound alone I’d say he shanked every slice from that side.

The way roger broke there to win the match was decently impressive, nice match point winner.


Von Says:

Falla and Haas are playing and Falla has already broken Haas, now up 2-1 Falla.


Veno Says:

I know Von, but you know me…

Always looking at the positive side!!!!

Go Andy Roddick!!! Win Flushing ’09!!!!!!


Veno Says:

I like Tommy, hope he makes a good run!


Von Says:

Veno: I think the kid got nervous thinking he’ll be able to get to a tie-break and probably win a set..


Veno Says:

Von I think the kid didn’t think at all :)
But to hit over 30 winners against Fed, he did not make a mockery of himself!
Tommy is a slow starter, he’ll bag it in 4.

Big Johnny I looking good!
Lapenti-Gruel in a 5th set tiebreaker locked at 6-6…

Guess who the winner’s playing in the second round…Fed


Long Live the King Says:

Thanks Von for your nice words. I have decided to change my name for this fortnight to stop getting accused of shape-shifting and what not :D


Veno Says:

The king is dead, long live the king!


Veno Says:

Tommy breaks back!


Veno Says:

tssss, Tommy at 15-40…


margot Says:

so: re veno is new name “king is dead” then? Could be a bit of an omen…


Veno Says:

Issie to the Jizzie almost there Von


Veno Says:

Bartoli got a good win baguette-bagel


Von Says:

“PietjeP Says:
Cindy? are you secretly in love with Von? You always seem to mention her in each and every post. It has love, love, love written all over it….”

I just saw your post. Me thinks you’re so right. I think she says my name in her sleep LOL. The first post up from her and there am I featured as per usual. I think I need a bodyguard — do you want the job? LOL

BTW, any thoughts as to who will win? I’m holding you to your prediction that Roddick WILL one or two more slams. If that happens, then I’ll believe everything you tell me forever. LOL. Enjoy the matches!


andrea Says:

at least it wasn’t a total blow out for britton. was skeptical after the first set but he gave it a go and got a couple of breaks of serve…only to be broken right back…

not bad considering leyton got two bagels in the final against fed a few years ago.


Veno Says:

Lefty Falla is hammering the bejeezers out of Tommy right now!


Veno Says:

Shizzle to the biggle Issle won in straights.
Another Gulliver in a dangerous quarter of the draw…


Veno Says:

Pietje!!!….a shout out to you my Dutch friend!

“Wat een toernooi gaan we krijgen!”


Von Says:

Long Live:

“Thanks Von for your nice words. I have decided to change my name for this fortnight to stop getting accused of shape-shifting and what not :D”

You’re welcome, hon. You know that if you change your name, I’ll still be able to spot it — “Anyways’ will always do you in. LOL. Keep your name, it’s alright with me.


Veno Says:

Anyone take my bet that Serena will win in under 50 minutes?


Von Says:

Veno:

Darn it, I was rooting for Hanescu to win, as I didn’t want Andy to have to fight another giant so soon after DC and Montreal, but now he’ll have to do so whether he wants to or not. If Andy can take the match past three sets v. Isner, then Roddick will win, as Isner begins to wilt after the second set. In that match, he won the first set easily and it’s why he had so much energy in the third. For an opponent to beat Isner, they need to run him around a lot in the first set. OY Vey, I don’t like it at all.


Fed is GOAT Says:

No, Serena will not win under 50 minutes.

And Serena will not win the title.


Long Live the King Says:

Von:

You got me wrong! I will just have a A-rod supportive name for this open to show my support.

The moderators are, however, not letting me change my name, the one time I am doing it sincerely. LOL!

Reminds me of a O’Henry story, where a guy does all sorts of crimes and after some major incident decides to become good and lead a responsible life and lo and behold, he gets caught by the cops for some utterly silly reason.


Von Says:

My girl Amelie is playing now. I so want for her to win another title, also my other fave, Dementieva to win a GS. Amelie’s the last of the old S&V women around. Go Amelie!


Von Says:

Long Live:

“Reminds me of a O’Henry story, where a guy does all sorts of crimes and after some major incident decides to become good and lead a responsible life and lo and behold, he gets caught by the cops for some utterly silly reason.”

You are waaaay too funny! LOL. One time too many and you’ve run out of your nine lives. In your case, how many lives was it? I’ve lost count. LOL. It seems that criminal activities favour you more, so keep to your usual MO, but be nice and root for A-Rod. LOL.


Veno Says:

Von, I hear ya, however Issle tha Shazissle has to reach the round of 32 first…You never know!

Tommy breaks back while Falla was serving for the first set. Some very nice points played by both man.
It’s funny how good the angles look that lefties can make :)


Von Says:

Haas is up break-point on Falla and will probably break back.


Veno Says:

Amelie’s the last of the old S&V women around. Go Amelie!

Lol, Amelie was the only S&V player around period, previously it would be Martina


Von Says:

Veno: Another example of how our minds are in sync you said the same thing at 3:18 pm as I was typing — see mine at 3:19 pm. It was just a matter of waiting for the submit to click.


Veno Says:

It doesn’t surprise me anymore Von.
Been happening way too regularly for it to be coincidental.
Tommy’s backhand looks sweet today!


Long Live the King Says:

Looks like the moderators will not let me change my name :D Here is what I have been attempting to post for the past half an hour with a new name “Baseball Cap” oh well…..

Baseball Cap Says: (Your comment is awaiting moderation.)

Here we go Von,

I will post with this name, so I remember to root for A-rod :D

The King will get a break till the end of the open. It is very nice of you to cheer for Fed’s french this year. I will bear that in mind at wimbledon where Roger has given A-rod and his fans a lot of grief.

Here’s something interesting for you :

Roger lost to Rafa in one-semi and 3finals at the French before he got his, this year.

With this year’s wimby A-rod lost 1semi-final and 3finals at wimbledon to Roger.

:)


Veno Says:

Fed is GOAT Says:

No, Serena will not win under 50 minutes.

Drinks are on me FiG!!!!


Von Says:

Veno: Yes, Amelie IS the last one around, after Martina. That’s what I mean and I’m saying (why are you busting my chops). She’s also one of the two one-handed BHs left on the WTA; the other is Suarez-Navarro. Henin is the other one-handed BH, but she’s still officially retired.


Long Live the King Says:

Looks like my activities have prompted tennis-x to invest in some super-paranoid moderating system :D I hope they have atleast some money remaining to pay Sean for all the *cough* WONDERFUL *cough* articles he writes around here


Veno Says:

Of course I’m busting your chops, I like things to be in balance and your interaction with long live the king is(although entertaining) way too “sweet”
So in comes el V. to counter balance things a little, and don’t tell me you don’t like it!


Veno Says:

Haas got the first to 5!

At 6-5 Haas changed his shirt from dark to white, while Falla has now at the beginning of set 2 changed from white to dark…Funny


Von Says:

Long Live:

“Here’s something interesting for you :

“Roger lost to Rafa in one-semi and 3finals at the French before he got his, this year.

“With this year’s wimby A-rod lost 1semi-final and 3finals at wimbledon to Roger.:)”

Alright, so going from the above tid-bit there’s still hope for Andy to win,yes? If so, I’ll still keep on hoping.

Tell me something with your new name will you give some anti-Fed posters a break? Be nice now! I know the answer, NEVER. LOL.


Veno Says:

And I agree, Amelie is great to watch! As was Henin. Pity she had those injuries and she wasn’t mentally that strong. Women’s power baseline game proves too much for Amelie to cope with and her opponents know this.


Veno Says:

Tommy’s looking good now!


Von Says:

Veno:

“Of course I’m busting your chops, I like things to be in balance and your interaction with long live the king is(although entertaining) way too “sweet”
So in comes el V. to counter balance things a little, and don’t tell me you don’t like it!”

Ahhsooo!! You’re jealous! I love it!
_____________
Long Live our smooching is causing Veno some pangs of jealousy and anxious moments here. LOL.


Von Says:

I’ve given up on watching TV and sticking to live streaming; they’re moving around too much in between matches. OY


Long Live the King Says:

Von :

Amelie and Elena :) we can definitely watch the WTA matches together. Though If Ana is on court, I can’t cheer against her.

Veno:

I like your posts and how you keep the show running around here. I think Sean should share that 5$ that tennis-x pays him annually for his writings, with you.

Having been at this site for almost 5yrs now, I doubt if any of the X-staffers spend as much time as we do on this site ;)


margot Says:

There’s another female serve and volleyer around, she’s young and newish, saw her at Wimbledon, can’t remember her name but is it that Italien woman who lives in Holland or vice versa?! Commentators were praising her game. Anyone know who the heck I’m talking about?
Love Suarez-Navarro’s backhand, she’s v. young too, am sure she’s gonna do well at some stage.


Veno Says:

Thanks for the kind words long live, but I’m a newbie here. Not yet enough props to sit next to Sean and his brilliant writing :)
I enjoy your posts a lot also!

Von: “Caught me!”
Darn, should’ve known I wouldn’t be able to conceil the underlying jealousy, because our minds work alike.

You see, this grasshopper still has to learn a lot!


Von Says:

Long Live:

Yes, we can watch two two together on our imaginary couch, but Veno has already ofered me his couch plus dinner and wine. Can you better his offer?

“Veno:

I like your posts and how you keep the show running around here. I think Sean should share that 5$ that tennis-x pays him annually for his writings, with you.”

With the two ‘Vs’ Veno and Von, we sure keep the Tennis.X staff busy, not to mention the hits Mr. Randall’s (see the handle, ‘Mr.’) articles receive. We are making him famouzzzzz. LOL.


Veno Says:

Belgium’s Oliver Rochus is about to take the first against Kunitsyn, that’s kind of a surprise!


Von Says:

margot: sorry I missed that one-handed BH player from Italy. i’ll have to look for her. If you remember her name, please let me know and I’ll keep an eye out for her.


Long Live the King Says:

Yeah Von,

No sparing ‘em anti-Fed, though I will try my best to resist this next 2 weeks as I am in camp-Roddick with ya!

Good to see I can make someone jealous. :)

I say we should head to the USopen to cheer for A-rod on Super Saturday? sounds like a good 2nd date? ;)


Von Says:

Veno: Brad Gilbert said that Rochus would need to be on a mini-trampoline for him to return one of Karlovic’s serves. Is Gilbert a hoot or what? LOL. I’ll say one thing for him, he’s original alright with his quips. LOL.


Veno Says:

Brad Gilbert said that Rochus would need to be on a mini-trampoline for him to return one of Karlovic’s serves. Is Gilbert a hoot or what? LOL. I’ll say one thing for him, he’s original alright with his quips. LOL.

I concur! He doesn’t come across like an intelligent individual, but his quips are primo!


Von Says:

Long Live;

Yes, now that you’ve officially swung over to Roddick’s camp, I’d like for you to lighten up on the anti-Fed posters.

Gosh, you’re surprising me by wanting to keep our date. I thought by now you had forgotten it already. LOL.


Veno Says:

Falla got the break back, some good tennis in this match!

And Haas is muttering as his usual self…


Veno Says:

Anyone know why they started painting the lines on tennis courts in stead of chalking them(still do at Wimby with titanium pigment)?

…Because the South Americans would snort away the lines between change overs…


Veno Says:

Serena looks trimmed and fit, she looks like she lost considerable weight


Veno Says:

A pity Jane, that Canuck Peter P ran out of steam in the 5th. He broke Guillermo in the opening game, but didn’t win another game. I liked him in Montreal. Hope he’ll continue to improve


Long Live the King Says:

” Can you better his offer? ”

Von:

It’s only words….. and words are all I have… to take your heart away. :D

I think you should check with Sean too, about splitting his pay-check from tennis-X.

Veno:

I agree, Sean’s blogging is fun. Very different from the writers out there and great sense of humour. Calls it as he sees…. (come on Sean, that should be enough to allow you to let me post with the “baseball cap” name for these next 2 weeks :D


Dan Martin Says:

I was interviewed today on WONE 980 AM in Ohio about the U.S. Open. The host asked me to do it again next Monday to discuss where the draw stands at the midpoint.


Veno Says:

Amelie looking good Vonnie!
Haas-Falla is entertaining but it’s such an up and down match. Haas just broke back after losing 4 games on the trott.
But trailing 0-30 again….jeeshhh


Veno Says:

long live says: “I agree, Sean’s blogging is fun. Very different from the writers out there and great sense of humour. Calls it as he sees…. (come on Sean, that should be enough to allow you to let me post with the “baseball cap” name for these next 2 weeks :D”

LOOOL


Veno Says:

Dan Martin Says:

I was interviewed today on WONE 980 AM in Ohio about the U.S. Open. The host asked me to do it again next Monday to discuss where the draw stands at the midpoint.

Way to go Dan! That is cool!


Veno Says:

Wow, Ollie Rochus is about to bagel Kunitsyn!


Long Live the King Says:

“Gosh, you’re surprising me by wanting to keep our date. I thought by now you had forgotten it already. LOL. ”

No more forgetting it :) You had your chance but you chose to remind me and now you are stuck. :D


Von Says:

Wow, what an up and down match between Haas/Falla. Neither guy can hold serve. Haas has zero rhythm and is just waiting for Falla to make the errors — terrible performance from both guys.


Veno Says:

It´s a terrible performance indeed regarding consistency, however, next to unbelievably bad errors, they both also play amazingly good points.
Very weird to watch.


Long Live the King Says:

Dan :

Is there anywhere we can access that online? I would actually prefer a transcribed version. Prefer reading to listening

Anyways, good going Dan.


Von Says:

Long Live:

“It’s only words….. and words are all I have… to take your heart away. :D”

Those are the lyrics from the song ‘Words’, an oldie but a very nice one, IMO.

“I think you should check with Sean too, about splitting his pay-check from tennis-X.”

Oh man, I’m in the dog house with Mr. Randall (no more Sean for me, but Mr. Randall, if you please) ever since that Fed-haters article. We’re not on speaking terms any longer, so forget about the pay-check split. LOL.

Yeah, I guess I’m now stuck with our date. I guess sometimes less is better.

BTW, you seem to be in a rare, happy, and fun-loving form today. I like that.

Mauresmo is looking good and is about to serve for the match. C’mon Amelie!


Veno Says:

It´s a pity she hasn´t got the confidence in her volleying anymore. She used to have amazing touch around the net, unfortunately she misses a lot of volleys these days

Allez Amelie


Veno Says:

Von: were you talking about Johnny Logan´s song?
“Words don’t come easy”


Von Says:

I can’t believe Amelie choked, again. She chokes so much serving out a match.

Meanwhile, Haas got broken again. I can’t remember when last I saw Haas being broken so much.


Veno Says:

OMG, Amelie facing 2 bps…
Is she going to choke yet again!!!


Veno Says:

Tommy has been broken 6 times in 2 and a half sets!


Long Live the King Says:

That’s one of the few handful songs I know. :)

Too bad you are missing out on the moolah :D Maybe Sean will come around if A-rod pulls one GS.

“Yeah, I guess I’m now stuck with our date. I guess sometimes less is better.”

:)

“BTW, you seem to be in a rare, happy, and fun-loving form today. I like that. ”

>>>>> Thanks, it is just the 1st rounds right. Let things heat up and…. :D just kidding, generally i am easy-going, but well, a discussion board just takes passion to another level :)

Looks like amelie won her match :)


Von Says:

Veno: No, not Johnny Logan but the Bee Gees song ‘Words’ per the following:

http://www.mtv.com/music/artist/bee_gees/albums.jhtml?albumId=689362

I see Falla is up again in the third set.


Veno Says:

Guys, what do you think about the next match coming up: James Blake’s chances?


Veno Says:

ah, gotcha Vonnie…

Bee Gees of course…


Von Says:

Veno: Blake has an fairly easy draw but nowadays it’s so difficult to think he’ll win a match even if he’s leading.


Long Live the King Says:

I think blake will pull this out in 4.


Von Says:

Falla has a trainer call.

Blake’s opponent, Ramirez, had Fed on the ropes at MC in ’08, but Fed came back to win the match.


Von Says:

Long Live:

“..just kidding, generally i am easy-going, but well, a discussion board just takes passion to another level :)”

Same here, I’m very laid back, and people tell me I’m sweet and a call me a ‘sweetheart’ but I don’t know what happens here, I seem to get arrows from all directions, thanks to Roddick. LOL. Anway(s) I suppose it’s good to ignite some flames and make things spicier at times. LOL.


Von Says:

Falla is experiencing the hibbi-gibbies serving out the set again.


Dan Martin Says:

Here is the website – http://www.wone.com/pages/onair_onthemark.html

I will see if I can get a transcript and next week I will have someone record the interview and type it myself if need be. The interview was good and I got to plug http://www.tennis-x.com


Von Says:

Unbelievable, Falla got broken again.

Blake is up a break, and I hope he holds onto it — Ramirez is a clay-court specialist so this should be an easy match for James.


jane Says:

That’s right Blake; keep it in the court!

Haas may be going off the rails at just the right time, considering he’s in Andy R’s section. : ) But, forgive me, who is Falla? I’ve never heard of him.

Veno – yep, too bad about Polansky; he ran right out of steam at the end there. His serve was pretty vulnerable.


Veno Says:

Haas-Falla is the weirdest match I’ve seen in a long time!

Looks like a best of 5 WTA match!


Veno Says:

Shrieker de Brito is getting hammered!

Any thoughts as to why she was put on the outside court? :O


Veno Says:

Rusty is taking apart Alves!


Von Says:

jane: Falla has been around for over 3 years now in the GS. I believe he’s from South America and is more or less a clay courter but has had some success on HCs.


Veno Says:

Gicquel-Tursunov could be entertaining!


Veno Says:

Falla is Colombian


Veno Says:

and looks like he’s going to forfeit, he looks hurt


Von Says:

Veno:

“Any thoughts as to why she was put on the outside court? :O”

Yes, so that her shrieks could be blown out by the wind in another direction. LOL. She would be brutal in an inside tournament. Lord help everyone’s auditory canal if that were to happen.


Von Says:

Haas got lucky in the third set because Falla is playing with an injury.


jane Says:

Thanks for the info on Falla Von; who knows? Maybe I’ve seen him before, but I don’t recall anyhow. Looks like Haas will carry on.

Hewitt cooked Alvez a bagel.

Blake’s fed Hidalgo a bread stick.

Kohls is trying to cook a bagel for Seppi. Djoko may have his hands full if he runs into a hot Kohls again.

Which reminds me, I am getting hungry.


Dan Martin Says:

Hewitt can’t beat Federer on his own, but he won’t give him the match either. Federer will probably win if they play in found 3 but love or hate Lleyton, a player has to beat him to get the W. He is mentally in the match and plays a style that gives his opponent a lot of chances to miss.


jane Says:

Von, Roddick is featured in DEUCE:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/DEUCE-Tennis/DEUCE-US-Open-2009.aspx

Veno, according to the ATP website, “World No. 1 Roger Federer became the first player in history to surpass $50 million in career prize money after defeating American rookie Devin Britton”

And that’s only prize money; forget about endorsements, exos, and so forth! Maybe he SHOULD pay Britton the $30,000 for the match; lord knows he can spare it! : /


Veno Says:

True Jane, true!


Veno Says:

Of all current players Hewitt and Federer have faced each other the most! A staggering 22 times!


Veno Says:

Court 11 is where it will happen tomorrow!!!!!


scineram Says:

Rod-Fed played 23 matches at least.


Veno Says:

Nope, it’s 19-2 so 21!


Veno Says:

Kohls looks to be in better form than of late


Veno Says:

Why hasn’t play started on Ashe?


Veno Says:

Q. How are your knees feeling? How are you more generally physically? Are there any other problems you’re dealing with?
RAFAEL NADAL: Hopefully not, no. The knees are perfect right now, my feeling. I think everything is okay, so I don’t have any problem.

Q. How tough has it been psychologically for you to deal with what you’ve dealt with the last couple of months?
RAFAEL NADAL: Psychologically for me now, I am perfect. After important stop, came back with more energy than ever, no. Probably I need few time to be ready, to get the rhythm, to play your best tennis, but the energy and the illusion is 100%.


scineram Says:

Why is Venus not playing?


jane Says:

I never know what Rafa means by “illusion” – does he mean belief? Confidence? That word has been used many times in the English version of his interviews, but I still can’t be sure what he means by it.


jane Says:

Venus is playing now; I think the schedule said “not before” 8:00 or something for the night/ Ashe matches?


Kimmi Says:

This will be tough match for Venus..already 2 DF and broken straight up…


been there, done that Says:

Veno@5:17pm: “Shrieker de Brito is getting hammered!”

Spoke too soon! Despite her screams, I love this girl….one hell of a fighter. She’s 16, youngest at the women’s event (i think), let her scream. She’s only taking after her older colleagues. hehe. Anyway, she came back to win 1-6,7-5,6-1.


jane Says:

Now the trainer at 1-2, one of the quickest trainer calls I’ve seen. Hope Venus is alright.


Kimmi Says:

Yeah Jane I am watching it too, this does not look good for Venus. Her opponent is tough too, she needs to be fit.


jane Says:

Well, if her opponent continues to send Venus serves in the 70s, Venus should be fine ; )


Veno Says:

Spoke too soon! Despite her screams, I love this girl….one hell of a fighter. She’s 16, youngest at the women’s event (i think), let her scream. She’s only taking after her older colleagues. hehe. Anyway, she came back to win 1-6,7-5,6-1.

I disagree! they should start penalizing the excessive screaming, it’s pure nonsense. Maria Shriekapova and Victoria screamarenka included.
The only female screaming I want to hear is in my bedroom


Veno Says:

Dushevina was a very promising junior winning Wimbledon and the Orange Bowl 6 yrs ago. She just about can rally with Venus some of the time. The rest of the times she’s a half a step slow. Nice match so far though. Hope Venus is fine


jane Says:

Speaking of screamers, the Williams girls are guilty too. Venus was screaming more in that last game than in the match thus far.

Overall, the screaming doesn’t bother me too much as a viewer. When it really gets to “high voltage” I often laugh. However, if I were a quiet opponent, I might feel differently, and if that’s the case, then maybe they ought to penalize them?


Veno Says:

I think the screamers in general only hurt the game, because most WTA tennis is agonizing to watch without it, and the screaming really makes me flip the channel on more than one occasion. In this, I am sure I am not the only one…


Veno Says:

ai, painful break for Venus, let’s see if the Russian can close it out


Kimmi Says:

re screaming, I think the problem is more to their opponent rather than veiwers (although some viewers are offended).But I read somewhere that some players like to hear the ball when hit etc etc etc…so its looking more and more like gamesmanship.


Kimmi Says:

Its 9.05pm already, the way this match is going, Roddick will be here at 10;30sh…


Veno Says:

the biggest problem in the women’s game is that it’s all about baseline power tennis now.

Unfortunately there are hardly any players(the younglings included) with real good touch.
They train so hard to hit the ball extremely hard from both wings, but aren’t able to develop a decent serve.

Also they lack any feel in their touch around the net. The level of women’s tennis has declined over the past decade and even longer and it’s still in a downward spiral. It’s really sad when you think about it.

I have added all the UE made by all women so far and compared that to the amount the men made, taking into account the average amount of points played in the matches. Also taking into account that the serve in the women’s game is less dominant and determinant, so actually there should on average be less UE compared to the men.

The result is just depressing….really!


Kimmi Says:

Too many UE


Veno Says:

Poor Vonnie, they started play on Ashe this evening an hour late, and now this match will drag on probably, Abdy will probably play his first point close to 11 pm….


Veno Says:

from 4-4: break Dushevina, break Venus, break Dushevina and now…break Venus?


Veno Says:

6-6 first set….already 37!!!!! UE in a total of 82 pts…Insane


Veno Says:

There’s no tactic involved, there’s no mixing things up, there’s just hitting it as hard as they can.


jane Says:

And in Venus’ case, screaming when she serves too. Lots of foot faults for Venus tonight.


Kimmi Says:

Foot fault came at the WRONG time..followed by DF Ouch !


Veno Says:

oh my…Venus lost the breaker after framing an overhead to go 4-2 up! Surprising


Kimmi Says:

Dushevina seem to play with a little tactic..hammering Venus FH till it breaks. And she got rewarded with a set..


Veno Says:

Andy R already incapsuled in Murphy’s law on the first day. I hope he can get it done in 3 sets….


Veno Says:

Agree Kimmi, in the tiebreak she played a more tactical game, good to see!


Kimmi Says:

Veno, seem like you are a little behind, we have the set here.


Veno Says:

If I was the Russian, already a set up and Venus’s left knee hurting I would angle her BH repeatedly to drain the energy out of her left leg so the knee has a harder time coping especially cause Venus needs 2 more sets.


jane Says:

Veno, in defense of the women, to a degree, I did see a few good matches in Toronto wherein there were tactics and, drumroll, even some nice touch (from the likes of Radwanska, for example – Kimmi and I were impressed with her variety, lobs, etc when we watched her play Sharapova). The ones with touch, like Suarez Navarro or Radwanska, or sometimes Na Li or Zheng Jie (even Jankovic if she ever gets to net), don’t have enough power to hang with the girls with super serves and powerful groundies. The Williams sisters are power hitters mainly, but I always though Venus could play well at net, though she avoids going in.


Veno Says:

Lol Kimmi, I’m watching it live, just referred to past tence when I said she lost the breaker after going up 4-2


jane Says:

Well, at this point I am hoping for the Russian to pull an upset, partly because she’s playing the nicer tennis of the two. Plus, Venus is struggling, and who knows how far she could go were she to pull this match out somehow. One thinks not very far based on tonight’s form, especially if she does have tendonitis.


Veno Says:

Agree Jane, I was talking very generally. There are some enlightening exceptions, thank god, but they mostly get over powered by the top baseliners. So they can’t play their game and start to stay with the big hitters and let go of their normal style of mixing things up.

Fabrice Santoro should coach these girls, that would be great!!!

The technical gifted don’t emplore tactics to move the hard hitters longitudinally and diagonally and those hard hitters are fit enough to move laterally, sideways and hit hard of both wings. Once you get them moving forward, half court, they get in trouble.


Veno Says:

The Russian girl plays the better tennis. She’s getting stronger. And she is moving Venus around well, Venus has to cut angles and she’s having trouble with it. Isn’t able to hit crosscourt as much and goes down the line and the Russian steps in and spreads it to the other corner. I like that play


jane Says:

That’s true Veno; if Henin comes back and is fit, no doubt she could do alright. She was pretty fierce in thinking through her shots.

I agree with the commentators; I have no idea why the men don’t play some of their night matches first. Why not? Mix it up. The women play best of three, so why not put the shorter matches second? At least occasionally anyhow.

I see Murray and Sharapova are scheduled to play late tomorrow night.


i am it Says:

venus is beating larcher de brito in grunting tonight.


Veno Says:

Dushevina only 1 UE this set.


Veno Says:

Good point Jane, I don’t get that either.

They should have moved Andy R to Armstrong imo…


Veno Says:

Lol i am it….knew you were going to get back at me :)

But you’re right


Veno Says:

Gonna call her Dushy!!!

She’s making some great angles to pass Venus.


i am it Says:

the grunting gameswomanship did not help venus. sadly she got broken.


Kimmi Says:

I agree with Jane too. though there is a lot more women with power and more power, there are few that bring some viriety.. Suarez Navarro I think has a potential to be so good but because she is so small she is getting overpowered and her skills cannot be seen as much but I see a lot of game on her game…the older Radwanska..love to watch her.

To add about jankovic, since she is moving very well, she has been a good counter puncher and she is able to neutralise the power hitter which is nice to see.


i am it Says:

the match is not over yer. the grunting is down and venus’ game is up.


Veno Says:

I’m afraid that was a game Dushy couldn’t afford to lose. It will be Venus in 3 sets I’m afraid


Kimmi Says:

Venus on her last match in Toronto she had 60 UE and she lost..


Veno Says:

I doubt if she loses this 1 Kimmi


jane Says:

Someone please tell me this: WHY can players not consolidate breaks? It seems like a regular occurrence that players get a break and then get broken right back. Now, I can see if they just aren’t a strong server, or if they worked super hard to get the break but then are spent for their own service game. But today, in this match, and also with Britton /Fed. You have the young lad breaking Fed, and not expending TOO much energy since he won a lot of those breaks with winners and frequently at the net, so short points. And he’d be going along holding, for instance in the 2 and esp 3rd set, but as soon as he gets the break, he drops his own serve. Same with this girl tonight. Look at her holding this game to love, but the one right after she got the break? Loses it badly. Sheesh. Drives me nuts.

Consolidate breaks players. Come on!


jane Says:

I would be surprised if Venus screams and scrapes her way through this match; we’ve seen Serena do the same in plenty of early round slam matches. Same old same old in some ways.


jane Says:

Sorry that should be I *wouldn’t* be surprised…


i am it Says:

dushevina plays tennis. venus grunts.


Veno Says:

am impressed bu the strength in Dushy’s legs and how firm she can keep her wrists! Impressive


Veno Says:

wth, is there a fire in the stadium?


Veno Says:

mental strength there!


jane Says:

Come on Dushevina; give us an upset. I’d like to see the better player on the evening win this one, not the one “with the most experience.”

Veno – grease fires from the concession. LOL!


Veno Says:

LOL Jane


Veno Says:

Dushy has to win in straights, there’s no way if it goes down to a third that she’ll win


Kimmi Says:

Jane: “I wouldn’t be surprised if Venus screams and scrapes her way through this match; we’ve seen Serena do the same in plenty of early round slam matches.”

Serena is a different “animal” though..she is sooo tough, venus nowhere near..but I hope she wins though


jane Says:

Something tells me this – gut instinct? years of watching tennis? – Venus will scrape through this second set, steal momentum and then roll through the third set to win it. Ugh. I guess experience counts, and mental strength is KEY.


Veno Says:

oh no….here we go


jane Says:

Poor A-Rod; they should definitely move him to Armstrong. This is likely to go three right? I think we all agree.


Veno Says:

that’s curtains for the Russian


Veno Says:

A-Rod is not going to be amused and he’s right. What a crappy way to start your tournament!


Kimmi Says:

Most of these people will leave after this match ends, there will be few to watch A-rod match..me think


Kimmi Says:

Jane..you are sooooo right..venus will win this set..


Veno Says:

6-2 Venus in the third


jane Says:

Sounds about right Veno. Sigh. We’re a little jaded eh?


Veno Says:

I slept for an hour and a half in the evening here, so I could watch A-Rod…Now it’s quarter past 4 in the morning and he has yet to start!!!!!!!!


jane Says:

Oh poor you. I could not stay up that late, no way; I’d tape it instead. Unless it was quarters and later maybe.


Veno Says:

I have a day off tomorrow, it’s ok!

When Dushy didn’t hold at 3-1 after she broke Venus, I knew that was an omen of her downfall…Pity, she should have won this match.


i am it Says:

miss grunt survives the 1st round. dushy tried but failed.


Veno Says:

Bethany’s probably happy about this :)


jane Says:

Apparently Dushy never wins against top players even though she plays them close. The announcers gave some atrocious stat, like 1 win in the last 20 tries over top 10 players. Too bad as she plays some nice tennis at times. Needs to be mentally tougher. Close it out.


Veno Says:

guess we really are tennis freaks, we knew half an hour ago how this was going to end, and it’s happening like we had wrote the script…


Kimmi Says:

Wow, Venus finally connecting everything now.. **Why didn’t I play like that from the beginning..she would say…**


Veno Says:

The mental issue is a big thing a lot of women will have to improve on or solve…
And what does the WTA? At their events they allow on-court coaching! What brilliant mind came up with that?

Insane!


Veno Says:

Venus is not doing anything special Kimmi, this happened naturally cause Dushy totally deflated and that feeds Venus, this is just the logical result.
Good of Venus though to fully capatilize!

It was good to see Henin never gave both sisters this satisfaction cause she solved the puzzle and that gave her the mental edge a lot of the times


Twocents Says:

Jane,

Your 9:49pm one just made my day: I regularly lose my own service game right after I break my opponent. Now that I know I’m sharing the dubcious honor with the pro’s. LOL.

Sean,

Gonzo cannot take out Rafa.

Semi: Fed vs Djok — Djok; Rafa vs. JMDP — JMDP

Winner: JMDP (just becuz he pulled out Cincy).


jane Says:

Agree with Veno; I don’t see Venus suddenly playing spectacularly, but there was a palpable momentum shift precisely when she gave the break back in the second set, and she has not regained any momentum since. It truly is almost scripted. I just hope Dushy doesn’t have to “choke” down a bagel now. Poor gal. But it’s looking awfully likely as I write this…


Veno Says:

As much I have grown to like djokovic better and better, and I think he will win more slams, I highly doubt he realistically has a chance this year


Kimmi Says:

Veno:”The mental issue is a big thing a lot of women will have to improve on or solve…

Agree, the on court coaching will not help to improve the mental strength of these players…I think safina is already affected by that.


jane Says:

Why Twocents, why?!!! Tell me? Must they break back once you break? Is it physics? LOL.


Veno Says:

the clenching of the fist after winning that service game says it all. Good she got on the board though. I still say, 6-2 Venus in the third


Veno Says:

oh my, you have got to be kidding!!!


jane Says:

Veno, I agree that this will not be Djoko’s year at the USO. He’s got Ljub first round, then an easier round, then possibly Andreev, then maybe Kohls or Step, all before running into, in all likelihood, a hot Rod. ; ) I’ll be glad if he gets to the quarters and makes a match of it there.


Kimmi Says:

VENUS…c’mon…this momentum thing shifting again.


Veno Says:

Jane, I think if he has no physical problems and his game is on like at Cincy, he could make a deep run. Would like to see that, but dunno even then if he can make it all the way to the title. We’ll see how he does against Ljubi


Veno Says:

Oh my, the spectators are starting to boo…ouch, painful


jane Says:

Well Dushy wants to live a little longer – will she break twice and make this go to the bitter bitter end? LOL. Am picturing A-Rod meanwhile gritting his teeth to shreds in locker room.

Twocents – if by some magical occurrence your predicted final match comes true, I’ll take DJoko, only because he has never lost to JMDP yet, I don’t think, and I can’t seem him doing so if he makes it to the final.


Veno Says:

Venus at 52 UE and I saw a couple that have not been counted(like the overhead she hit almost outside the tram lines)


Ty Says:

Wow, boring day capped by a very boring women’s match.


Kimmi Says:

I don’t think Djoko is coming here with a good momentum…I thought after Rafa win in cincy he will start to connect but I was not convinced with the way he played fed, he still showed some vulnerability he has had since FO. Djokovic used to go toe to toe with Roddick but now Roddick seem to own him, i dont know why…Roddick has improved but Djokovoc should still be able to hang with him.


jane Says:

Raunchy spectators – ugh.


Veno Says:

If the Final is Djoko-DelPo then Nole will win it!


Veno Says:

Kimmi, it’s all a confidence issue with Novak. Ask Jane for the myriad of factors that have contributed to Novak’s stand-still compared to the others in the top 6


Kimmi Says:

Rafa was very mad last year when he has to start his match at 11pm..just not fair…what time they will go to bed ?


Kimmi Says:

Yeah..confidence issue..thanks Veno


jane Says:

“what time they will go to bed ?” That’s just it Kimmi: they get into a kind of time warp playing so late. At least it’s a slam so there is the day between, but still. It’s like what tenisbebe said of the late Cincy semifinal, she couldn’t see Djok getting to bed before midnight as he came off the court at 10 or 10:30, then dinner, shower, etc, etc. But had to play at 12:30 next day. So maybe in that first set it was a combo of fatigue and also battle shock from Fed coming out on fire~!

Would be nice to see Deshy hold there – Veno, looks like it’ll be 6-3 or 6-4.


jane Says:

Ah, 6-3 it is. Now bring out Andy R already!


Kimmi Says:

Yeah Venus..I like the smile.


Veno Says:

Well, we can cross Venus off of the list of top faves


Kimmi Says:

“Well, we can cross Venus off of the list of top faves” ha ha I crossed her off even before the open start..just too up and down right now…but You never know..


jane Says:

Veno, yep mainly confidence. Though I think he did have two other issues at the beginning of the year (1) adjusting to the new racquet (which took until at least Dubai if not longer IMO) and (2) too many fitness issues, which seem to have abated (mainly anyhow) since he brought in the new trainer/fitness coach. There haven’t been any retirements and very few trainer visits, so it’s a step in the right direction. Now he’s hired Todd Martin, so the new eyes and input may also help him. But there have been many blows, some of which were self-inflicted, to his confidence as well. So the slump is a combination of factors. The change in status from hunter to hunted after winning his first slam affected him too. He has not defended well. But he may do better next year if all goes well. He’s got good chances on hard and clay as well. He’s not horrible on grass either. So, we’ll see.


blah Says:

Though I am not a fan of either, the attitude of Venus is Much better than Serena.

Phau isn’t a walkover, he played Nadal tough in 2 tiebreaking sets in the opening round last year. Let’s see Roddick’s serve/return.


Veno Says:

Man, I bet Andy is fuming by now!


jane Says:

Roddick and Phau have played two matches, 5 sets, and Roddick lost one set only in a tiebreak, so I think he should get through this fine, or I am hoping so anyhow. He’ll be looking to make it quick at this point!


Veno Says:

Jane says: “He’s got good chances on hard and clay as well. He’s not horrible on grass either. So, we’ll see.”

No kidding hahaha, he’s good on all surfaces!

And actually the 2 points you mentioned I actually implied in my statement about the myriad of factors that have had an adverse effect on his confidence :)


jane Says:

blah, agree on Venus/Serena comparison. Have always preferred Venus’ game and demeanor, although as Von says, Venus can be a little too “sugary” at times.


Veno Says:

It will be around 11.30pm when A-Rod plays his first point ugh


jane Says:

Yes those issues would of course contribute to the confidence woes. Duh. Am tired and confused after that last match. LOL.


Twocents Says:

Jane,

Breaks:
I was taught that first thing to play a tennis game is to hold thy serve. Whenever I break the opponent’s serve, I guess I feel like a thief, subconsciously? Then all hell goes looooose. Don’t know about pro’s.

Djok:
I was picking Djok to win it all. But Sean’s Super-Saturday point reminded me that both JMDP and Djok are not known for their endurance. So JMDP’s Cincy withdrawal may play the trick there.


NachoF Says:

Whatever.. I dont really care for all these details… Im just happy that Nadal is on the other side of the draw so we can get our Fed-Nadal final

and Im picking Federer/


jane Says:

Roddick having no problems whatsoever…


blah Says:

Add Agassi to the commentary team lol.


jane Says:

Oops blip – Phau got 1 break. But no worries. Andy should get it right back.

blah – I love listening to Agassi because he speaks from experience. And he’s so smooth and calm, sandwiched between those McEnroes like he is. LOL.


Daniel Says:

Hey guys, long time since my last post. Travelling to US, too many citys to visit and few time.

Guess who I saw walking in a mall in Miami?!
Fat David Nalbandian, who looked bigger in person. Hope he recovers from his surgery.

Very excited for this Open. I can stop saying to myself: you should have been there. Well, Vegas killed anychance for me…!


Daniel Says:

Awesome shot from Roddick to break to lead. His backhand slices are also great.


JoshDragon Says:

You have a very interesting theory about how the US Open draw will play out. I don’t agree with you though. I think Murray and Nadal will both make the semis and I think it will be a repeat of last years semi-final with Murray advancing and losing to Roger in the finals.


jane Says:

Hey Daniel, welcome back. Yes, that was a great down-the-line pass from Andy to get the second break (one was a break back).


blah Says:

Jane- Agassi was very insightful/articulate and brought up new things, technical parts of the game(which is what commentary should be) instead of what’s been said again and again. Of course, the McEnroes dragged it to Roger Rafa again…blech.

Onto day two- the Gulbis Murray match can be interesting if Gulbis is firing the shots in. Murray’s passiveness can hurt him because Gulbis definitely has enough fire power. Probably won’t turn out that way though.

Federer gets an easy draw. surprise. Davy is no longer a threat. I’ll pick him on that side to get to the finals, the other side I have no idea. Have to see if Nadal’s in form, if Murray’s more aggressive, if Del Potro still has the momentum.


Von Says:

jane:

“jane Says:
blah, agree on Venus/Serena comparison. Have always preferred Venus’ game and demeanor, although as Von says, Venus can be a little too “sugary” at times.”

I believe you have things turned around a wee bit here. You said Venus ‘sugar coats’ everything, and I agreed that she can at times be ‘sugary’.


Mindy Says:

As far as Sean’s predictions, let me say that if he had picked Rafa to go further than the quarterfinals, I would have collapsed in shock. I am getting used to Sean underestimating Rafa. I would like nothing better than to see his prediction go up in smoke. I will not predict how far Rafa will go in this tournament, or anyone else for that matter.

I am prepared to give some opinions on who has a good chance to go deep in this tournament, but I have learned from watching tennis for decades, not to ever think that anyone is a sure thing. I am not as optimistic about Del Potro as Sean and others here. I am thinking he is not quite there yet. But as I have said before, if he proves me wrong and gets to the semifinals, then good for him. I absolutely question his conditioning. He could have beaten Murray in Montreal, but he totally ran out of gas. He just went through the motions in that third set rather than retire from the match. But he had nothing left. That is a valid issue in a grand slam tournament.

I don’t see anyone stopping Federer, short of a huge upset. I don’t feel all that comfortable talking about Murray, since I don’t know his game well enough. I don’t think his loss to Fed in the semis at Cincy necessarily means that much, except to Fed. I guess this will be a big test for him, to see if he’s got what it takes to win this tournament.

I agree with someone here who said that they don’t think Gonzo will be able to take out Rafa. I agree. Rafa says the knees are good, the tape on the stomach is gone and he seems to be in the best shape possible given the short amount of time he has had to prepare. Someone else pointed out that getting to the quarterfinals in Montreal and the semifinals in Cincy, was an excellent result. He has never won Cincy and equaled his result last year when he was at peak form.

Rafa may not be at his best, but I will never make the mistake of writing him off. I look forward to seeing his first match with Gasquet. That should tell me more. I get a sense of where Rafa is at after watching the first few games of a match. I still say that if he gets through the first week, he could be a serious contender here. Maybe this isn’t his time, who knows. We will just have to wait and see.

Ever since Sean Randall wrote that infamous blog about Rafa pulling out of Wimbledon due to a fear of losing, rather than injury to his knees, I have stopped taking his opinions and predictions seriously. That was the first time I felt compelled to post here. I was furious. But I have enjoyed reading the comments here and enjoying the discussion and everyone’s opinions. So I am still here.


chloe Says:

A lot of people including Sean do not apply the same standards to Roger that they do to Rafa. After all, Roger did far worse in Toronto and Cincy last year than Rafa did this year, Roger was beaten in the first and second rounds, whilst Rafa actually got the the Qtr and SF just coming back from injury time out. That did not stop everyone tipping Roger to win the USO last year.

As for saying that he doesn’t think Rafa can win back to back 5 set matches on hard court against stiff competition, well what can I say, this is obviously rubbish, what does Sean think Rafa did to win the AO, unless he is saying Roger is not stiff competition.

Oviously Sean doesn’t like Rafa, you ca’t win them all.


Gordo Says:

Actually Chloe – Last year almost everyone thought Roger Federer was on the steep decline and after his losses in Canada and at Cincy there were few who expected him to win his 5th straight US Open. It’s great to revisit history knowing what happened, but check out the comments in here and there was fear that Federer might even retire if he didn’t fare well.

Rafa looked good at the 2 recent Masters, although there was the rust factor. I am most looking forward to the quarters if he runs into Tsonga. A solid win there would set him up nicely against Murray, should the Scot make the semis.

On the other side, the match of the tourney may be Roddick vs Djokovic; if one of them doesn’t wear himself out beating the other then the following semi-final against Federer may be the toughest match Fed has this fortnight. If Federer gets through that I can’t see him losing the final against anyone who could come from the other side.

Or to put it another way, I can’t see Federer losing more sets in the final than he will in the semis – even though he may not drop a set all tournament. That is, unless he goes up 2 sets to none on an opponent in an earlier round and wants to practice a few new things out.


Gordo Says:

And yes, Sean Randall has always sold Nadal short. It is interesting he would pick Gonzalez to emerge from Rafa’s quarter, when in Canada Gonzalez was down match point to some Canadian wild card who was ranked in the high 600s.

Sure he came back and won that match but I don’t see Gonzalez being able to handle Tsonga, let alone Rafa.

Rafa, like Federer, comes up big for the majors. Don’t be surprised to see him avenge some demons this year and take out Murray in the semis. If that happens and if Federer is not on top of his game Rafa could get his career slam this year as well.

However, if Roddick gets it all together and should he knock off Djokovic and upset Federer – a long shot, but possible – I don’t think Rafa would have a chance against Roddick, IMO.


Twocents Says:

IMHO. Sean sells short of Nadal because of Nadal’s own interviews, not because he hates Nadal. I accused of Sean reading too much into Nadal’s injury at the beginning of 2009, before Nadal won AO. I think he’s still doing it here before USO.

From my Fed fan’s perspective, it’s crystal clear that once Nadal lost FO, and calendar year slam along with it, his biggest goal for 2009 should be to win USO — to secure a career slam at age of 23. However, I did not include Nadal into my final two pick for USO, also because of all these Nadal’s own talks on his conditioning and injuries. I just feel a bit disrespectful to completely disregard all words from world no.3, even though I’m quite used to the underdog talks from Nadal all these yeas.

Love or hate, USO2009 is about “Sweet 16″ and “career slam” and some spoiler. I pick spoiler :-)).


jane Says:

Twocents “I pick spoiler :-))”

Ah, a “spoiler” is such a downer way of putting it; how about a “surprise” instead!? ;)


Twocents Says:

Jane,

A “surprise” is a bit too flattery, to the established two, and main media. It’s a sort of entitlement? How much of surprise element really there is if a “non-Fedal” comes out a winner?

Big surprise — becuz the two have splitted most slams in last five years and all for 2009 so far?

No surprise — Natural order of things to change in tennis and everything else, just for the same reason.


huh Says:

All my good wishes with Murray,Federer and Roddick. However Murray’s been meted out an extremely tough draw, as tough as Roddick had during the Wimbledon this year, it’s so UNFAIR!!! Again facing Gasquet in the opening round is not pretty fair for Rafa, Gasquet can be really dangerous when on. But Federer has easier opponents than others, particularly Murray. However it’d have been fun if Gasquet faced Fed and Querry faced Rafa(for me of course!).


Mindy Says:

Apparently, Tsonga is already shooting off his big mouth about why he can beat each of the top four seeds. If he is trying to fire up his opponents, then he is doing an excellent job. He is spewing the kind of trash talk that can make you look ridiculous if you don’t deliver.

I love the fact that Rafa doesn’t go around talking himself up. He usually does just the opposite, although he did make a point of saying that he came to the US Open to win. That’s nice to hear. He does his talking on the court. I think Rafa is never more dangerous than when he has something to prove. He knows that some have written him off and say he is washed up, finished. He has more than enough motivation to go out there and prove the so-called experts wrong one more time.

I am particularly surprised that many of the prognosticators and pundits have written off Murray’s chances of winning the Open. I may not be a Murray fan, but I would not be so foolish as to write him off because of his loss to Federer at Cincy. Murray will not make too much out of that loss. He has said that it was more a case of him being off his game, which is just what a top ranked tennis player has to do. He is not going to give it more importance than it deserves. He also knows that Federer was eliminated in the quarterfinals at Montreal, which he won. The idea that the loss in the Cincy finals will be in Murray’s head during the Open, is absurd. He has something to prove and should be a serious contender.


jane Says:

Mindy, I know Tsonga can be “showy” and stuff, but I checked his interview and what he did say doesn’t sound too boastful; here are the two relevant quotes, with questions:

“Q. Are you sort of looking at this tournament sort of as an opportunity for you to take perhaps the next step in your career? You’ve established yourself obviously as one of the top 10 players, and perhaps this is going to be an opportunity to get even further than that.
JO-WILFRIED TSONGA: Yeah, of course. Every Grand Slam you are you know, I’m here to win, you know, and to go to the next step.
The next step for me is to be in the five best players in the world, so yeah.”

AND

“Q. You said you’re here to win. Do you have a real belief that that’s a legitimate thing that you can accomplish at this US Open?
JO-WILFRIED TSONGA: Yeah, of course. I’m in good shape and I play well, so why not?”

I don’t think he could very well say “no” in answer to that question. Maybe he could’ve added more words, and said I’ll have to work hard etc., but he already said that even his next match will be tough:

“Q. Nieminen won.
JO-WILFRIED TSONGA: Nieminen then? So it will be Nieminen than. So yeah, I know it’s going to be difficult, because he’s going to be very hungry. It’s going to be tough.”


been there, done that Says:

Mindy@11:23pm:

“Apparently, Tsonga is already shooting off his big mouth about why he can beat each of the top four seeds. If he is trying to fire up his opponents, then he is doing an excellent job. He is spewing the kind of trash talk that can make you look ridiculous if you don’t deliver.”

Link please or further explanation of what he said? ‘Coz I fail to see how saying he can beat the top four players is equivalent trash talk.

He recently dispatched Roger in Montreal while Roger was 5-1 up final set. He dispatched Rafa in Aus Open ’08 in straight sets (6-2,6-3,6-2)….

His H2H against the top4: 1-1Roger; 1-2Murray; 1-3Rafa; 4-2Djokovic (statistics available on atp website http://www.atpworldtour.com/)

From the h2h, he’s beaten all the top four at one time or the other, including at slam level. None of the h2h is too lop-sided, so going into a match, it can go either way. Even if it was, each match begins at 0-0 ponts. (Soderling beat Rafa at FO ’09 despite a 0-3 losing h2h going into that match; Roddick beat Murray at Wimbledon despite a 2-6losing h2h going into the match)

He is afterall a top10 player. Except for Roger & Rafa, other top10 players routinely beat each other at slams.

Kindly provide a link ofTsonga trash-talking the top four players. Besides ‘trash talk’ is always good….imo, tennis needs to liven up….it’s just a game.


Mindy Says:

To been there, done that,

I had one heck of a time going back and finding Tsonga’s comments. This was posted by a member of a Rafa forum, who apparently read the article. These were her direct quotes.

“I just read an interview of Tsonga – how arrogant and typically French does he sound! He says things like:
- “I am as good as Murray or Djokovic technically speaking, and even better. All I need is a bit of consistency”
- ” Isner, Guccione and Karlovic managed to beat me just because my return was off on those days”
- “The reference match for me is my victory over Nadal at AO 08. I showed I was capable of beating the best”
- “My aim at USO is to be among the last four” (= beat Nadal again )
etc etc to sum up = I am very , very good, people haven’t seen all my potential which is huge, I am goign to achieve great things etc etc”

I dislike players talking about how they can beat this one or that one or when or how they beat them. It’s stupid. By the way, Tsonga shouldn’t flatter himself by thinking he beat Federer in Montreal. Fed beat himself! It had nothing to do with Tsonga. Just a dumb comment and if it gets back to Federer, he will remember it. Who cares if Tsonga beat Rafa in the AO 2008? Is this guy kidding? Big deal! So Rafa came back a year later and won it.

To make matters worse, he’s telegraphing that he plans to beat Rafa at the Open. This guy is an egotistical jerk! If he gets the chance, he better make good on it, because if he doesn’t then he will look even dumber than he does now. If this gets back to Rafa it’s just going to provide more motivation. The great players, of which Tsonga is NOT a member, remember this kind of bragging and self-indulgent crap. Tsonga has done himself no favors.

This guy has done nothing to brag about recently, so it’s better for him to just shut up and do his talking on the court. That is how the great players do it. This nonsense reminds me of Djoko when he thought he would overtake Nadal as #2 and then started talking about how he would beat Federer at Wimbledon. Well, we all know how that turned out. It’s just boorish behavior on his part. He should start winning grand slams and then he will have something to talk about.

In my opinion, these comments are inexcusable. Now I really hope he gets clobbered here. He deserves it.


been there, done that Says:

Mindy@3:13am,

From reading Jane’s & your comments regarding what Tsonga said, I still fail to see the trash talking. Why should he pretend that he can’t beat them while the record shows that he can?

“I am as good as Murray or Djokovic technically speaking, and even better. All I need is a bit of consistency”

Having watched him play, tnis is in fact true. His shot making ability is just as good as the top four & has a winning record against Djokovic. To be world#7 & consistently in the top10, he must be a very very good player.

“My aim at USO is to be among the last four” (= beat Nadal again )

And why not? He has done it before at a GS, so it is possible he can do it again. Rafa is in his qtr, so he has to talk about Rafa. If he was in Fed’s, Murray’s or Djokovic’s qtr, he’d talk about them instead. If he reaches qtrs, he’ll do his best against whoever is across the net, whether it’s Nadal or someone else.

“Tsonga shouldn’t flatter himself by thinking he beat Federer in Montreal. Fed beat himself!”

He probably knows this ‘coz he went on to say he too was a little baffled that he hanged in there. But it doesn’t matter….the fact remains that he beat Federer at a masters event when Fed was leading 5-1 up & with two golden opportunities to serve for the match!

“Who cares if Tsonga beat Rafa in the AO 2008?”….”To make matters worse, he’s telegraphing that he plans to beat Rafa at the Open”

Tsonga does….if that is what he has to draw on were he to meet Rafa in qtrs, then more power to him. He’s done it before, he can do it again. As with all other players a match begins at 0-0 for Roger & Rafa. Nothing is written on stone. If Tsonga doesn’t believe he can beat the top4, then he shouldn’t walk onto court against them-just give them a walkover. :D

“…The great players, of which Tsonga is NOT a member…”

He is a consistent top10 player, so he in in fact a great player. He gets automatic qualifications to master series (of which he’s got a title) & if rankings stand, he’ll qualify for the end of yr TMC ’09, which is only for the best eight players in the world. He qualified for TMC ’08…so he’s been quite some good player for two yrs now. There are also many other fantastic players within the top50….For a game played by thousands, to be within the top50, one must be quite good. Both Roger & Rafa have repeatedly said Tsonga is a great player….they ought to know! However, there are only two superstars, Roger & Rafa, yet they too can be beaten by players outside the top4 at GS events.

“He should start winning grand slams and then he will have something to talk about”

Winning slams is not the be all, end all in tennis….Not everyone can be Roger or Rafa….there are many other exciting tournaments, e.g. 9masters, in the atp calender which other top10 players, including Tsonga have won.

“This guy is an egotistical jerk!”…..”remember this kind of bragging and self-indulgent crap….”

I realize you are a Rafa fan, but imho, you are being over-sensitive or taking Tsonga’s statements too personally. Surely, an egotistical jerk for saying he can beat a player whom he’s beaten before on a hardcourt GS? LOL. Players do it all the time. In that case, all top4 players, including Rafa, are egotistical jerks for saying they want to win the tournament ‘coz like Tsonga, they think they can defeat other people in their draw.

Tennis is just a game, & for viewers & spectators, it’s just a form of entertainment, much like watching a music concert, or a boxing match. Nothing to get riled up about & use such language about someone you’re probably never going to meet. Similarly, most of us are probably never gonna personally meet our sporting heroes, so no need to over-praise or over-defend them OTT. All top30 players are grown men who’re earning millions of dollars…. they’re hardly going to care about someone challenging them in a tournament.If it’s not a personal attack against them or their family, I doubt any of the top4 is going to spend more than 30seconds thinking about what Tsonga has said, let alone provide motivation. This type of thing gets said daily by all players, including by the all top4-yes, including Rafa & Roger.

I have failed to see Tsonga’s trash-talk, so I suppose we’ll chose to disagree on this one.


Mindy Says:

To been there, done that,

Thanks for advice about not getting riled up – I wasn’t. It’s called stating an opinion and it’s my right to have one. I have stated my feelings about players talking too much. If you’ve really got it, then you just go out on court and do it.

Tsonga hasn’t done anything at the grand slams and that is the standard by which players are measured. That is what everyone remembers and what stands the test of time. I do not consider him a great player at all. He has not been consistently great. He is not in the same league as Federer and Rafa and a win here or there does not make it so.

Yes, we agree to disagree. My late father told me a long time ago not to wear my heart on my sleeve, show my cards, let other people know what I was thinking. I didn’t really understand this life lesson until I got much older. Now I realize why he kept at me all the time. He was right.

Tsonga has shown everything. He is a fool. Better to keep quiet and do it with your racket. I have always believed that and see no reason to change my mind.


been there, done that Says:

“Thanks for advice about not getting riled up – I wasn’t”

I wasn’t giving you advice….i don’t know you, so see no reason to do so. Just like you, I was simply stating my opinion on a free blog.I said that because imo, you used abusive language and still continuing, now also calling Tsonga a fool. e.g.
“This guy is an egotistical jerk!”…..”remember this kind of bragging and self-indulgent crap…….”He is a fool.” LOOOOOOOL!!!!! imo, The only person engaging in trash talk is you, not Tsonga. As you say, there is is freedom of speech, so you can continue to trash-talk him as much as you wish.

“He has not been consistently great.”

Yes, he has been a consistent top ten player, so in that sense has ben consistently great. Statistics don’t lie. Though I agree that he could be more consistent during matches so that he can break into the top 5.

No player is always at 100%. Rafa was beaten at Madrid & FO, and missed Wimby….beaten at Cincinnatti and Montreal. He hasn’t been consistent because of injury…..same to Tsonga who missed last year’s FO & Wimmbeldon due to injury. If this makes Tsonga a lesser player, in the same manner, then Rafa is also a lesser player because he has allowed himself to get injured which has resulted in his inconsistency.

“He is not in the same league as Federer and Rafa”

No one else is at the level of these two, and no one has said so. But the fact remains that they are beateable at any event. Roger is beatable on grass and Rafa beatable on clay. Just the way it is.

Also, Federer has 15 slams and Rafa 6….doesn’t mean that Rafa is any less of a player. Likewise, Murray, Tsonga, Davydenko, Del potro, Verdasco & Simon have no slams, yet they are in the top ten and are great players. The fact that Mindy doesn’t recognise Tsonga as a great player doesn’t mean that it is true, he is the top 10, hence he is a great player. Even your sports hero Rafa will disagree with your statements, who by the by, happens to be friends with Tsonga, and thinks he’s a great player.

“Better to keep quiet and do it with your racket.”

No, entertainment is part of the game. All players talk big, including Roger and Rafa. This is a tennis tournament, not a heart surgery session.

“I have always believed that and see no reason to change my mind.”

No one told you to change your mind….hence the reason why I said we agree to disagree.


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