Poll: Who’s Most Likely To Drop Out Of The Top 10 In 2015?
by Sean Randall | December 12th, 2014, 2:09 pm
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I was asked this the other day, my response was Marin Cilic. Why? I don’t believe he’ll be able to come close to winning another Slam nor do I think he’ll be able to finish ahead of guys like Juan Martin Del Potro, Grigor Dimitrov and possible even David Ferrer.

That said, I think Ferrer could also be in danger. So outside of the Big Four my most likely are in order (Cilic being the most likely, Raonic the least)…
Cilic: I just don’t buy him being a stable Top 10 guy.
Ferrer: Can outlast just about anything but age; will need a good start to 2015.
Wawrinka: He won’t defend his Australian Open title, but he played well enough in London to show me his second half of 2014 wasn’t a total bust.
Nishikori: A healthy Nishikori will be a member of the Top 10 for many years, but an unhealthy one?
Berdych: Won’t win the Big One, but plays consistent enough year-in, year-out to stay in the Top 10.
Raonic: A big Slam result (a final?) could break him into the Top 5.


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103 Comments for Poll: Who’s Most Likely To Drop Out Of The Top 10 In 2015?

Hippy Chick Says:

IMO Wawa and Cilic will find it tough to back up what they did this year,and win another GS next year,although i dont think they will fall out of the top 10,Ferrer is the player that will have it the toughest falling out of the top 10….


Ben Pronin Says:

Ferrer’s gonna go.

First he misses the WTF. Next stop is falling out of the top 10.


elina Says:

If Wawrinka fails to make the semis in Australia, he could fall out of the Top 10. Over half of his points are from two tournaments so I pick him most likely to fail (better).


jane Says:

i’d say ferrer but elina and sean have valid reasons for picking stan and cilic too.

stan seems to have backed up his good 2013 year with another good year in 2014, so as long as he can do it again in 2015 – i.e., have some strong results even if he doesn’t win a slam – he should be able to maintain top 10.


Ben Pronin Says:

I’m assuming Sean means who’s gonna end 2015 out of the top 10. I agree that Wawrinka could easily fall out early on but even a QF showing would be enough for him to build on going forward. He lost early in a LOT of events this year. Most notably the French, but also a bunch of Masters events. So if he puts up consistent results and snags a title or 2 he could still end the year on a high note. Look at Berdych. The guy doesn’t win squat diddly and has been a fixture in the top 10 for half a freaking decade.


Wog Boy Says:

Ferrer, Wawrinka and Cilic will be out of top 10 at the end of 2015.
I really hope and will cheer for Dimitrov to get in top 10 and play WTF next year, he was do close this year but he blew it..but he needs to find decent coach first.


Wog Boy Says:

^^so close


dari Says:

im not putting stan out. he had a few big events, but lost early frequently, even if he loses a lot of AO points, he should get some back quickly if he even reaches a consistent level.
bye bye daveed i think

wog, you think grigor needs a new coach? roger rasheed is a little OTT at times, and maybe grigor has gotten what he needs out of him. maybe youre right


Wog Boy Says:

dari, RR is a good salesman, he knows how to sell himself, as a coach or as a TV commentator and I am not a fan of his, neither as a coach nor as a TV commentator. The longer Dimitrov stays with RR the more chances are he will get injured and the more chances are he will not learn much of how to play important matches and use his enormous talent to excel where he belongs, top 10 or even top 5. Look at his matches at the end of this year when he miserably failed to reach top 8 despite having good shot at it. That is RR failure to prepare his protege tacticaly for important matches, that is where they earn their money, same as footy coaches who earn their money in the half time.
Good to hear from you dari:)


SG1 Says:

Federer…only because I think he’ll get bitten by the injury bug. If injury is left out of the equation, I’m saying Raonic. I have this weird feeling he’s gonna’ take a bit of tumble in the rankings. Somewhere in the 13 to 16 range.


dari Says:

Hi, wog boy. nice to see you, too!
i think youve hit the nail on the head, with that salesman idea.
he has improved his fitness, though. but that’s what fitness coaches are for, somebody else can do that.
he needs to move forward out of the hot shot guy to winning big matches no reason he shouldn’t be the best outside of the big four


Wog Boy Says:

dari, Agree.


Eric Says:

Well, let’s think of how to answer this. Start at the bottom and ask: is this player on the way up or the way down?

Ferrer, no. 10… I hate to say it, but it seems like he’s on the way down. That said, it wouldn’t be at all surprising if he played in the 2015 WTF, either.
Cilic, no. 9… I agree that MC is not a stable week-in, week-out guy-to-beat. But I think he is on an upswing right now. If he drops out of the top 10, it will be because other guys eclipse him, not because of some permanent decline.

Stan, Berdych, and Kei could all fall out of the top 10 too (due to injuries in the last case) but I don’t think any of them will.

So Ferrer is the most reasonable choice. Sad–hope I’m wrong. :)


Wog Boy Says:

Stan will be 30 years old in march next year, he had dream year this year, first GS, first masters, first DC. I just don’t think he can keep himself in top 10, firstly mentaly.
Marin also had one off year, mentaly he is not up to it.
Ferrer, well, the mother nature is not doing him any favours, he just can’t keep up with youngsters for ever.


Margot Says:

Ferrer and Cilic, I guess. And why would Kei be more injured in 2015 than 2014?


Mr. Larvey Says:

I’m genuinely surprised to see that so many of you are predicting that Stan drops out of top 10. OK, I’m maybe not the most obejctive person to comment on this, because I’m a huge fan of Stan’s game. Still, I realize that it will be very tough for him to defend those OzOpen points, but like Ben said earlier, he lost early in many tournaments where he could easily go deep if he’s on. Especially French Open where he should be one of the top contenders. He could even hurt Nadal in RG, if he has one of those crazy days. Stan could also gain points fairly easily in IW and Miami.

So, my predictions for the top 10 dropouts are Cilic and Berdych. These guys will be replaced by Gael “Force” Monfils and Dominic Thiem. I just can’t see Dimitrov breaking into top 10 permanently, which is a shame, beacause he has tons of talent and potential. Nadal should teach him how to fight on the court!


Mr. Larvey Says:

I forgot Del Potro! Maybe Dominic needs to wait one more year before he breaks into top 10. Delpo will finish in top 10, if he can play the whole season without major injuries.


Hippy Chick Says:

There is alot of hype surrounding the return of Delpo,and people are quick to assume he will be top 10 next year,and while it will be great having him back on tour,im just wondering how realistic that is?returning to the top of the game just at the snap of ones fingers is much easier said than done,especially after such a long term injury it sometimes takes players quite a while to get back into their stride,doesnt always happen overnight,i like him and wish him the best,but lets just wait and see….


Hippy Chick Says:

Strange when Delpo suffers a long term injury he returns to the tour and people predict a top 10 finish,even when he was ranked 300 or so exactly the same was said,when Nadals ever injured people predict retirement even though hes still ranked number 3,1 forum although not this one said that Nadals close to retirement even when he was number 1,and had also won 3 GS in one year,so strange how peoples minds work ?hmm….


Giles Says:

Cilic will definitely not replicate his heroics of 2014. As for Raonic, no idea what he’s doing in the top 10 anyway. All serve and no game. I reckon these 2 will drop out. Ferrer as usual will fight in every match he plays and I can see him finishing in the top 10, might even make the WTF.


the DA Says:

@Hippy Chick – Good point about Delpo. I’ll be watching the tennis-x writers closely to see if they’re just as hard on him/impatient as they were with another top 10 player who returned from an operation this year.


Hippy Chick Says:

Thanks the DA,the double standards are something that gets annoying on this forum at times,refreshing to get a neutral POV for a change,yeah it will indeed be interesting to see the reaction regarding Delpo and you know who hmm?….


sienna Says:

Cilic is going to become member of top four. he will replace Murray.

why would Cilic drop out of top 10? Murray is in much more trouble.


Mr. Larvey Says:

I think that Rafa has proved already a couple of times that comeback to the very top is possible after an injury, if your game is strong enough. And I believe that both Rafa and Delpo have the game to come back, and they will be very strong in the season 2015. OK, I don’t expect Delpo to go very deep in Australia, but in New York he should be very dangerous again. I expect that Rafa will have good chance to win already in Australia.

No double standards, they both have just that big games that they will be strong if they are healthy.


jane Says:

sienna it’s interesting that cilic himself disagrees with you about how much trouble murray is in:

http://www.tsmplug.com/tennis/andy-murray-will-back-best-next-year-marin-cilic/


sienna Says:

jane I see Cilic already is commenting as aan member of top 4. they all talk crap bout the others when expressing themself.

Cilic will become top 5 or 4 after NA materie or clay swing.


Margot Says:

Lol jane, is that the same Cilic whom Andy beat a couple of months ago? ;)


Okiegal Says:

DelPo should be totally healed. He has been out for a long time……but I fear if he goes back to that hard hitting he’s capable of, he will likely be back in the same shape. It seems to me that he hits harder than anyone else…..I truly see why he’s had wrist problems. None the less, it will be so great to see him back on the courts once again! The year he won the USO was an unforgettable tournament. We saw some great stuff from him. Are we going to see the same DelPo?? We will see.


Hippy Chick Says:

Funny how fans state their own personal opinions as bona fide facts….


Okiegal Says:

I think the rankings will remain with the same 10….maybe a flip flop between 2 or 3 players. After a the lengthy rest Ferrer has had, he will come back firing on all cylinders…..me thinks.


the DA Says:

“is that the same Cilic whom Andy beat a couple of months ago?”

Convincingly, in straight sets ;)


jane Says:

putting gael monfils as a potential top-10 next year makes sense and is risky at once, of course. he played some wonderful matches in 2014. of course he had match points at the us open versus fed, he pushed andy to 5 at the french, he played nole to the edge in canada and was his toughest out in paris too. he’s shown renewed focus this year. he also looked to be having fun and playing great in the itpl. so maybe he’ll move up? he’s been as high as #7 before. can he get back there? i’d give him an outside chance. it depends, as always, on focus and hunger with him. on consistency.


Hippy Chick Says:

I would bet on Andy bagging another GS,and staying in the top 10 before Cilic,but both are frustrating to follow,so who knows?….


jane Says:

i would better on andy over cilic for sure, as well. but cilic does have a great game, and he showed an incredibly calm demeanour at the us open, as well as at the french and wimbledon. if he can keep that up, then he may well surprise some of his doubters.

i still think ferrer is more likely to drop, although he really does fight so hard, it’s difficult to suggest that. but age and mileage must be catching up somewhat.


jane Says:

^doh! i mean bet on…


sienna Says:

I am dumbfumbled about the author and many people discarting Cilic his USOPENwin.
Clearly this still somewhat young player showed he reached a new level for himself tactic/technic/physical/mental
the way he steamrolled the 2nd week has only been showed by arguably two of theen 5 best players ever.

listen the level is there his win was not a fluke.
If Cilic is brave enough he will play that level again.

you believe more in Nishikori who was totally swept awaywith ease like Cilic played 2 or 3 levels above.
maybe those people are hoping it was a fluke or luck.

we will see. I believe Cilic can become #1, if he truely believes he can play level USOPEN.


andrea Says:

the level that cilic played at during wimbledon and us open dropped considerably in the fall, so it’s tough to say. any of the guys in the top 10 right now usually make it to 1/4′s or better in a large % of tournaments, which is why they are where they are.

aside from novak or roger – who both had a great year – most of the other guys can’t sustain getting that deep into multiple tournaments in a row. they might get on a roll over 2 or 3 tournaments, but outside of the truly dominant players – who in 2015 will likely just be novak…love roger, but age will ctach up soon, have to see how nadal comes back – otherwise it’s a bit of a crap shoot. no one in the rest of the top field (andy included) are showing great sustained consistency.


jane Says:

it’s true that cilic’s level dropped in the fall, but he played well at all the slams except maybe AO. his problem is he doesn’t seem to do well at masters level.

isn’t it kind of weird that a lot of these guys – nishikori, cilic raonic, delpo, dimitrov, etc – have not won a masters? especially when 2 of them have won slams!

ferrer and berdych have. tsonga has. stan has.

it seems like you’d expect to see these guys break through at a masters and then translate that to the slams.

does anyone have a theory as to why they can’t seem to do better at the 1000 events?


autoFilter Says:

I think that’s a great question, Jane. Here’s my theory (which isn’t much of a theory, really):

Nishikori very nearly did break through. Personally I think he would have if not for an ill-timed injury. And I imagine it won’t be long before he does bag his first.

Cilic possibly just hasn’t played his very best at the right times to not have been stopped by more consistent top players along the way.

Raonic sucks. No, I’m sorry. I do think he’ll win a Masters or a few along the way, but I don’t see him as so good that it’s any kind of surprise to me that he hasn’t at this point.

That Delpo has yet to win one is almost inexplicable but for the fact that he’s been hampered by injury for so much of his career. And to my mind even that doesn’t quite explain it considering the success he’s had at every other level.

And I think Dimitrov has only just recently started to give the impression that anything less than the biggest stage is worth the entirety of his focus, so hopefully it’s just a question of time before he’s more of a fixture on the business end of those events.


jane Says:

autofilter, thanks for your thoughts. what you say about nishikori makes sense, and it’s true he would’ve likely beat nadal were it not for an injury in madrid.

for me, i wonder if cilic and delpo are more like 5 set guys? delpo for sure sometimes starts slowly. cilic seems to do well over 5 sets, when he has a little more leeway. although he can blow guys off the court in 2 sets for best of 3 IF he can maintain his best level.

raonic, i know way you’re saying.

but dimitrov? it doesn’t then explain why he’s bothered to fight for 250-500 titles then. if he gives his focus to them why not masters 1000s?

next year might tell us more, but i could definitely see kei getting one, and maybe one or two of the others?


autoFilter Says:

jane, my pleasure. I hear you about Delpo starting slow, but it doesn’t seem to have stopped him from winning 500s. I am at a loss with him.

I’m trying to recall who’s ousted Cilic from Masters tournaments (is there a convenient way to search that?), and I really can’t. I seem to have the impression that he’s mostly lost to quality players, but I can’t back that up at all so for all I really know he’s taken ‘soft’ losses left and right. So, yeah, maybe you’re right. I mean, it would make sense anyway.

Regarding Dimitrov and 250s and 500s, I suspect the fact that those fields are generally lower in ranking might mean that he hasn’t needed to consistently dig as deep as he would to win a Masters. I’m just speculating, though. For all I know it could be belief.

Yeah, seems like there’ll be no getting around next year telling us more :)


jane Says:

yep it has to. ;) methinks at least 2 of them should break through at the masters. that’s my guess.

maybe it’s because they can’t get through 2 of the big 4? Delpo’s come close. in 2013 at IW he beat murray, then nole, but then didn’t have enough left to beat rafa in the final.

i think it’d take a while to find that out for cilic over the long term. but just for fun i checked this year. his losses were rather erratic – i.e., good losses and more inexplicable ones – as follows:

IW – lost to nole (in 3)
Miami – lost to roger-vasselin
Monte carlo – lost to stan BAD (0 and 2)
madrid – lost to gulbis
rome – lost to melzer
canada – lost to fed (but a tight 3 setter)
cincy – lost to stan
shanghai – lost to dr. ivo
paris – n/a


autoFilter Says:

Seems like a good guess.

Yeah, that’s a tough ask for anyone (and especially for someone who’s never done it before).

Whoa, I am in awe of your commitment to the cause…

Okay, so at a glance I’d say Roger-Vasselin and Melzer look questionable. Gulbis was still Gulbis 2.0 in Madrid, IIRC, anyone who isn’t an exceptional returner could conceivably lose to Ivo in Shanghai, n/a is a real bastard, and the rest are this year’s top players minus Rafa.


Margot Says:

@jane and auto
Really enjoyed your discussion. I always feel that players outside the top 10 are seriously underestimated. At any time someone can come, almost out of nowhere. and play a match way above his pay scale.
Woe betide a top 10 player who meets one of them on such a day, especially if his own game is a tad off.
The only player who seems, more often than not, to summon the will power to come through is Nole. Rafa/Fed/Stan/David have all fallen in surprising circumstances and don’t even mention Andy!
Of course, because the top players are all so good, the lower ranked player, who has had the win of his life, has to do it all over again next match and frequently fails.
Much gnashing of teeth then ensues from those of us who’ve seen our favourite laid low by some upstart……..;)


Okiegal Says:

@Margot……you nailed it……the Rafa fan knows all too well……sigh…..and you are right, Novak has missed that horrible fate!!


Margot Says:

Cheers Ok and greetings from cold, dark UK :)
Looking forward with apprehension to tennis 2015!


Okiegal Says:

@Margot……cheers back! A new year is upon us and I am looking forward to it. Hope Andy has a good year……and hope Rafa can get through the year w/o injury….


Damien Mills Says:

I personally don’t think the top 10 will change that much, apart from Stan who may drop out for a few weeks then return to 7/8, and Cilic. I think Bautista-Agut makes an appearance, along with Dimitrov for a bit, along with Ferrer who will bounce in and out.
My take – a very chop-changing 5-10, with the top 5 remaining the same but moving around a bit before settling at the end of the year.


Damien Mills Says:

*sorry, a chop-changing 6-10


Humble Rafa Says:

May I suggest what I think. I am kind of shy but I will say it anyway. Even with a senior discount, 34 year old people can’t stay in the top 10.

Sorry to ruin your morning with reality.


Alexandra Says:

I guess Cilic is an obvious choice. Both he and Stan are not likely to win a slam again next year, but Stan has an overall better game. He has to be more consistent next year though (Stan that is). The next ones on the list should be Raonic and Ferrer. I don’t expect Nishikori to fall out of the Top 10, except if he would have big injury problems, where he can’t play for a couple of months.
Are some people voting for Rafa, Fed and Djoko just for the sake of being different? It certainly can’t be a realistic option.


sienna Says:

obviously when one gets bamboozled 0 and 1 you have no buss. in top 10.


autoFilter Says:

Margot

Hi, glad you enjoyed it :)

I sort of see Novak as Roger’s successor in terms of consistency, but I would agree that Novak stands alone in that regard now. And one thing he’s got going for him is that there isn’t anyone who just ‘has his number’…

Like, for Federer there’s been Nadal, obviously, and clearly his consistency in general has faded with age. And then Nadal has always been weirdly vulnerable to randos (not left and right, obviously, but enough that it’s left its mark).

Yeah, I don’t know who’s most likely to drop out of the top 10, but I’d definitely say Novak is the least likely (genius, I know).


Matador Says:

Definitely Ferrer.


Giles Says:

https://mobile.twitter.com/theslicetweets/status/544252213179473921
Lol. Fixed or what!
He pinched it from “cry baby”!!


SG1 Says:

I agree that strictly on form (not injuries), I think Ferrer is a good candidate to fade. Marin Cilic….it’s hard to tell. Guys like Johannson and Krajicek have won slams and then have never been heard from again at a major. Marin’s a great athlete and big hitter. Going to assume that he’ll fall just out of the top 10 though because he will have that USO title to defend next year which seems unlikely. As I said earlier in this blog, I expect Milos to take a small tumble as well but I think he’ll bounce back in 2016 (assuming he doesn’t get hurt).

I like Nishikori to stay in the top 10 as he has the kind of game that will beat almost anyone most days…and he’s still young enough to make that game work.


SG1 Says:

If I was going to pick players that I think will be in the top 10, they would be as follows, in no particular order:

The ones I feel decent about, not including the possibility of injury:

Novak, Nadal, Federer, Nishikori, Dimitrov, Murray, Wawrinka (though a little worried about all those AO points he has to defend)

Gonna’ go out on a limb for these ones a little:

>Gilles Simon (he looks ready for a push and he plays beautifully)
>Berdych (…cringing as I wrote his name)
>Roberto Bautista Agut (…seems like he’s on the upswing and he’s not that far out of the top 10)


Okiegal Says:

David will be 33 in April. He plays a grueling game of tennis for his age. Did not realize he was that close to the age of Roger. He might drop in rankings but it will be after the battle. We will see what he can do after the rest he’s had during the off season. He’s one I would never count out. I don’t believe there will be much of a shake up in the top ten…….


sienna Says:

Krajicek was aan regular in top 10.
and he did have some semis at majors.
he could have had another wimbly losing semi 15-13 in 5th.

Pete was lucky he didnot face the one guy who could beat him regularly in those days.

SO OF course Cilic in his prime years, just after being crowned US OPEN champ (the last slam played!!) after a year winning 4 titles (equal to Nadal/Nishikori) is being dissed from serious comments just because some key and prominent posters dislike the guy.

Wow I am at a loss.

U easiley see this guy do well at all slams. Hè could even pull a Soderling at French Open bombarding Nadal to a second Garros defeath. he has the game and knowhow from last year to bring it home.

Dimitrov has failed andstepped down every single time when asked the q.
but still we are sure he will bring a better 2015 then Cilic.

UNBELIEVABLE.


elina Says:

You guys Cilic had an amazing USO and I was first to shout he may finally be the real deal after such a long wait for him but I wanted to reserve judgement to see if he could follow it up in the fall and also a deep run in Melbourne.

For me, he has not backed it up and the jury is still out. For now.


sienna Says:

elina.
That is all I want to hear.
You say 1 slam. Im willing to give 2015 to prove it. as a 26 year old slam breakthrough winner we owe him the whole year

why would he deserve lesser time to prove as to wawa. he has been backed on this forum the whole year.

Definitely I want Cilic to play with Us open form during masters.
he could steamroll the field from wednesday to sunday playing like that.

knowing he was fysic hampered after Us open gives some relief for the let down.


Hippy Chick Says:

Its still very early days yet for Cilic,he should be given a chance,lets see how far he goes at the AO,which will give us a better indication,its not like Delpo whom i do like dont get me wrong,where its been five years since his maiden GS,yet people are still predicting big things for him even now(sorry no offence Emily if your reading,as i would really love to be proved wrong)?….


Hippy Chick Says:

I just wonder if we will see any new players that will come through and dominate the mens tour the way Roger/Rafa/Novak have,or whether we will have an influx of new GS winners,that win one and fail to back it up,Andy Murray has been a consistant member of the top 4,and is a fantastic player with 2 GS,without the consistency/domination of the other 3 would probably have won many more GS,thats how good they are and how difficult it is to sustain any type of run because they are that good….


Brando GOAT Poster Says:

I don’t think it will change much since after all:

who on earth is going to replace them?

For me the tour’s depth is grossly overrated, inflated hyperbole pushed by a salespitch media.

When perennial chokers like berdych end up top 8 year after year you know the it ain’t all that tough to break into that top tier.

It will likely be the same in the main as the outsider are not exactly sporting a phenomenal game that shall shake things up at the top.


sienna Says:

so now cilic needs to dominate the game of tennis?
i never said he will do that, his USOpen level was good enough to do that but it takesmuch morethen tennis to do so.

we are talking about staying in top 10.
Why do different rules apply to different players in judging top 10 places. Cilic is being labeled aan 1 slamwonder who has no serious chances of staying in top 10?

it would be ridiculous if not a little sad.
esp. from writers on this site.


Humble Rafa Says:

Giles Says:
https://mobile.twitter.com/theslicetweets/status/544252213179473921
Lol. Fixed or what!
He pinched it from “cry baby”!!

I feel for the Best Backhand in Switzerland. People with reasonable size brains know who had a better year.

This is not a popularity contest. If that’s the case, my good friend Deliciano will win the women’s part easily even though he is not Swiss.


Okiegal Says:

Oh, Andy’s mum and I love Deliciano…..so glad you brought him up……he’s just the most gorgeous man on the planet…….sorry, Humble!!


SG1 Says:

I don’t think anyone is writing Cilic’s talent off. The question is one of mentality. Does he have the mentality to contend major after major? So far, the answer appears to be no. Given the level of his talent, there’s no doubt he could win a bunch of majors if talent were the only issue.

At the USO he looked almost unbeatable. Then as quickly as he looked near invincible, he crashed backed to earth and really hasn’t been heard from. Tennis has had its share of one slam wonders. There aren’t any guarantees he’ll ever win another slam because he doesn’t seem to have the mental make-up of the big 4.


TennisVagabond.com Says:

There are just four slots locked in stone. I don’t need to name them.

Six spots will be contested among this group:
Berdych
Ferrer
Wawrinka
Nishikori
Raonic
Cilic
DelPotro

…and possibly
Kyrgios
Dmitrov
Tsonga
Gulbis
Monfils

I would be GOBSMACKED if someone off this list cracks the Ten.


Okiegal Says:

Novak/11360
Roger/9775
Rafa/6835
Stan/5370
Kei/5025
Andy/4675
Berdy/4600
Milos/4440
Marin/4150
David/4045
Grigor/3645

Looking at the points each have, for me, puts things into perspective. Then thinking about points to defend…..that’s another thing to add to the mix. It’s going to be an interesting year, me thinks!! . I’m anxious to see how it all plays out starting with the first slam. Can’t wait…..and love me some tennis!!


jane Says:

i want the players to have a rest, obviously, but i am already jonesing for more tennis too! can’t wait for the AO.


Okiegal Says:

@Jane……I’m so ready. Do you live in the US? . I can’t remember……if you do, the Aussie Open is rough for US tennis fans. I remember watching the Rafa/Roger match…..I was up all night long……fun, fun, fun!!!


jane Says:

i am a canuck okie, so it’s the same for me; late nights! but worth it. :)


Okiegal Says:

@Jane, thanks for the reply, I remember now you telling that one time. Well, you know what I’m talking about……it is worth it. I can watch w/o being bothered with the telephone and incessant talking from hubby!! Lol


sienna Says:

listen you keep making the same mistake.

to finish top 10 at the end of the year has nothing to do with how much points a player has to defend.

this is like a common mistake made on this site. Try to understand how ranking andere year end works.
the only thing where current ranking and yearsend are influencing eachother is by seeding proces but only secondary.


Hippy Chick Says:

As much as i love tennis,im quite happy to sit back and have a break from it too,i also think this forum needs a break along with the tennis,too much bickering over the year means it can at times spoil ones enjoyment of the game,well for me it does,seems sometimes people only take pleasure in the misery of others….


sienna Says:

SG
im sorry but your comment about Cilic is ridiculous.

you want to see him do it slam after slam….
and he cant do it?

has there been another major.

please give te last slamwinner atleast the break to the next slam for you to prove he is toast.


Hippy Chick Says:

Sienna i agree,wish should give the guy a break and see what happens next year?….


SG1 Says:

As I said, I don’t doubt Cilic’s game one bit. He clearly has all the tools. But, the guy’s 26 years old. Pretty much middle aged by tennis standards. He’s not 20 or 21 and just getting acclimated to the tour. Does anyone really believe that he’ll be a fixture in the top 4? Federer, Novak and Rafa clearly have some very special qualities that have allowed them to be so dominant for so long. I don’t think those traits suddenly pop up when you’re 27 or 28 years old. Of course, I could be completely wrong but it’s my opinion.


SG1 Says:

Marat Safin is a great example of a guy with No.1 talent but unable to focus for long periods.


Okiegal Says:

@SG1 I don’t want to be pessimistic about Cilic either, but you make an excellent point about his age…….big factor imo too. Consistency is the name of the game and that’s what the top three and four have that has set them part from everyone else for awhile now…..jmo….


Wog Boy Says:

SG1, agree on both, Cilic and Safin, for Safin it was more important to throw all night party or pick up a fight in Moscow bar then to turn up for tournament, nevertheless for training, pity, he had enormous talent and game…when he felt like playing.


sienna Says:

tennis is about maturing the way the game is setup and how courts fairly play alike.
youve gotta be able to put in hard and hard battle orgritt.
Cilic might matured later. I guess helost a year.

but with new coach to guide him who knows. Certainly it is way to soon to put him away as 1 slamwonder.

You are ridiculous even if Cilic doeznt win a match in his life. your comments about him are still ridiculous for timing wise.


Margot Says:

Ooh Marat….*sighs and faints*
Women just seem to like “bad boys.”
In my defense he was a pretty good tennis player too…;)


Okiegal Says:

@Margot……I agree too that Marat was very good, just seemed to go off the rails at times…..and a nice looking guy. I loved to watch him play, I actually found myself wanting him to win and swooning all at the same time!! Lol


jane Says:

oh my god, i am fainting with ya margot! ;) sigh……


Okiegal Says:

Now girls, let’s settle down!! Lol


Margot Says:

PS
But I don’t like Gulbis…I have my standards….
@OK
Why?……..;)


Okiegal Says:

@Margot…..I’m glad you have your standards! LOL
Why?? Well, posters might get the wrong idea by us women folk…..we do have our reps to think about….tee hee :)


Hippy Chick Says:

I will join in the chorus of approval for Marat,a headcase but gorgeous,used to like James Blake he was cute too,but suffered so many injuries,for me Fabio is the hottest man on tour now but hes another headcase,agree with Margot on Gulbis urgh(sorry Contador),when men talk about women like that they put me off for life,no matter how hot or good looking they are,and he isnt anyway IMO,anyway he not be a tennis player,but Mr Jackmans the hottest man on planet earth,forget the rest….


Hippy Chick Says:

Okie well why should the men folk have all the fun?Wogboy and Mat4 like Sharapova,Ajet likes Kirilenko,Colin likes Pironkova,Courbon(wheres he miss his posts?)likes Ivanovic and Serena i believe?….


Okiegal Says:

@Chick…..since you mentioned Mr. Jackman, I’m gonna rent the movie “Australia” and that will get me ready for what will take place down under in January. I’m so ready for a slam……and I want to see healthy bodies out there competing!! I’m looking forward to seeing how DelPo comes back.

Chick, Who is the biggest headache…..Marat or Fabio? Lol


Okiegal Says:

@Chick……I agree, they shouldn’t have all the fun! I haven’t see any of those posters on here lately. Guess they will come back when matches start again…..probably got bored with it all….I’m ready for tennis too…I’m bored!


Hippy Chick Says:

Okiegal oh my i cant recomend that film highly enough,as he gets jiggy with Nicloe Kidman(lucky girl),another to watch is Deceception as he gets evil in that one,stars with Ewan Mcgregor(another hottie)and makes his life hell,turns out Mrs Jackman is quite the cougar as Hugh is 13 years younger,oh my how did she do it lol?
Anyway about the tennis i do hope all are fresh,rested,and ready for another crack in the new year,but i stand by what i said yesterday @3.52am in that as much as i love it,i also love a break from it too,emotionally the bickering and sniping at one another gets too much at times,and blogging for me becomes a chore rather than a pleasure,nice discussion ATM,so lets see how long it lasts….


Hippy Chick Says:

Who is the biggest headcase,Marat or Fabio?difficult one that Okie,i would be well matched with either,as i too am quite the headcase lol….


Margot Says:

Lol Hippy, Foggy is a total loser in the head case stakes, compared to Marat. ;)


jane Says:

a loser in all stakes compared to marat, i’d say…:)


Okiegal Says:

Fabio, biggest head case, imo…..and I personally think Marat the best looking…..again my opinion..


Okiegal Says:

@Chick……I have seen Deception too and loved it.
The older woman gets the guy……sometime!! Lol I should know, I’m older than my hubby!! Lol


SG1 Says:

Sienna,

My opinion isn’t ridiculous. Even if Cilic wins 10 slams more between now and when he retires. It’s an opinion and perhaps an incorrect one. If he wins another major (or 10 more) , I’d only be guilty of being wrong in my opinion. I think Marin’s an excellent player and he seems like a good guy. If he wins a bunch more big tournaments, good on him. I’m not rooting against the guy. I just don’t see him having the mental tool set of a Federer or a Nole. I separate Rafa out because his mental skills may be the best in the history of sport and Cilic doesn’t need Rafa’s mind to win because his game is so massive.


Hippy Chick Says:

Margot/Okie/Jane true….;)


Hippy Chick Says:

Hottest player ever….


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